WEBVTT - Brad Keller Out For Season, Larry Bowa, Charlie Manuel, Tom McCarthy & Brandon Duckworth Join 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.559 Hi, This is Zach Wheeler. Welcome to Philly Shows. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.120 Especially rest yesterday today. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:12.040 Hey everybody, welcome to the Philly Show Live from Manco 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.480 and Manco and Ocean City. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:22.080 I'm Todd's a lucky We're super excited. Friday, July seventeenth, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.079 twenty twenty six, a date, when a date. We're excited 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.319 to be back at Manco. We love Manco. I just 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.520 had some the other day during the home run Derby 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.840 hit the spot, hit the spot. During the home runner, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.280 I had a whole half of a pizza which I 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:37.120 should not have had. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.280 Not good for my you know, for my weight, but 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.839 very very good for my tummy. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.559 I eat it almost every day at the stadium and 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.920 I can't button my pants. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.480 But where the magic happens right back here. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.080 That's all right. We're excited about this show today. We've 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.520 got Larry Bow, We've got Charlie Manuel, we got Brandon 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.920 Duckworth Shore, we see Tom McCarthy stop home. We've got 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.240 a lot of heavy hitters. I saw the line outside 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.080 and I said, wow, is this for me? Then I 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.199 realized who was all coming on the show and coming 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.600 to watch the show today and we have other famous 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:12.720 people too. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.160 Dave Bucket is here, Buck is herest grand with this 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.160 year is here, There you is, and my Ben, Greg 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.839 Castriados here and everybody in the fact. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.280 Thank you so much for coming. We've got a lot 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.360 of talk about. Let's talk about some current events. There 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.280 was some big news yesterday at the ballpark, some monster 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.840 implications for the Phillies at the trade deadline, So it 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:41.440 is time for Monster Moment. Monster Moment is powered by 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:47.080 Monster Energy. Yesterday got to the ballpark and Don manningly 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.840 reveals with the Phillies revealed that Brad Keller has a 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.440 UCL tear in his right elbow. His season is over 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.760 two years, twenty two million dollar contract in the off season. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.080 The Phillies were obviously excited about that move, thinking he 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.000 could be a big setup for the Phillies. Guys, we've 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.560 been talking on this show for weeks, maybe months, about 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.320 how the Phillies are gonna need to go out and 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.040 get some relief help. And now that that need, that 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.280 desire just escalated like one hundredfold. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:19.359 No question, it makes the need for bullpen help more acute. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.440 We kind of thought something was going on with Keller 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.799 when he didn't pitch over the weekend in Detroit after 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.840 he had come back off the IL, pitched in Cincinnati, 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.799 and he's going to get a second opinion. But he's 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.040 done for the season, and I would I would imagine 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.840 the way these UCL UCL tears go, he could be 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.000 done for a good portion of the. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.200 Next season as well. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.880 So they need to go out and find some bullpen 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:48.600 help because since June one, the bullpen eira is over six, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.520 and since July one it is over eight. So I 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.160 think that kind of is glaring that that has become 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:57.640 their big need the bullpen. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.160 Yeah, no question about it. We've been talking about the bats. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.760 You know, why are the bats and we need the 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.440 bats in the playoffs and all other stuff. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:04.680 The reality of it is. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.720 And we've talked about this a million times, some of 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.519 the biggest reasons why they did not win the World 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.680 Series the last few years is because they haven't been 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.400 able to shut down teams late in the game when 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.200 they've had leads, and so this is a real issue 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.680 for them. They do have some big arms in Alvarado 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.480 and Kirkering and some other guys, and now you know 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.400 see Jonathan Boland kind of stepping forward, But the reality 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.320 of it is, none of those guys have really performed 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.320 in the playoff scenario. And so, boyle boy, it's going 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.160 to be incumbent upon Dave Nebrowski and his folks to 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.880 try to add that piece because this is a playoff 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.440 contending team and a World Series contending team, and certainly 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.440 that bullpen is a important piece of it. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.800 So Rubin, a few months ago you had mentioned a 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.040 role as Chapman as a guy you would personally love 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.920 to have. Now the Red Sox have kind of crept 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.200 into the Al wildcard race, so I can't imagine that 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.520 they would trade him necessarily. But do you think the 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.280 Phillies need to go out and get a player of 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:07.880 that ilk, a stud late inning, lockdown setup guy for 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.640 Juan Duran? And then secondly, how difficult is that going 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.520 to be? Because listen, the Phillies do not have a 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.960 deep farm system, They don't have a lot of talent 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.120 to give up, and you're not going to be able 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.720 to give up, you know, your number fifteen prospect to 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.039 get a lockdown late in any guy. So that's a challenge. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.839 Well, to answer your first question as far as getting 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.520 a lockdown guy, yes, I do think that they need 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.320 to try to do that if they can. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:32.719 The second part. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.800 Of this question is the most difficult part of it. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.800 Now there's a guy named Mason Miller that's going to 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.200 be available. Now, I will tell you this, A J 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:45.000 Preller is one of those guys that loves Latin American 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.880 players and Latin American prospects in particular. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.760 Now I know the Phillies have a big one in 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:52.480 rent area. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.440 This kid is a stud and we'll probably have Larry 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.560 Bowa maybe talk about him a little bit later on 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:58.440 in the show up. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.120 He's actually gotten a chance to put his eye as 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.960 he and or Charlie. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.799 I don't know if that's the guy, but I gotta 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.200 believe that a J Preller would covert that type of 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.679 player because he loves those kind of players. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.400 So he would have to be a piece in that. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.599 But Mason Miller, for me, if I was sitting in 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.240 the GM's seaton, I would be eyeballing him because the 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.000 Padres are basically out of this thing. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.800 And and I think a J Preller is gonna. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.360 Do a little a little bait and switch action. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:25.280 What do you got, Jim Well. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.000 I love Mason Miller. I love that idea. I've loved 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.600 it for over a year. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.600 I would love to see them getting a hunt from 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.359 Mason Miller last year. He still has three years of 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.960 control beyond ash year, so there's great value in that. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.200 He's he's absolutely locked down. I mean, you put him 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.000 in the in the eighth going into Doran, because I 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.880 don't think he can take the closest role from Durrand 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.040 the performance he has given the Phillies over the last year. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.280 But I mean Mason Miller, I would he would make 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.800 you stand up and take notice. What you mentioned about 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.440 Preller and the lotten players. They have another one in 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.040 Marquette Pitcher from Mexico who is really opening eyes in 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.400 the system. But I think you'd have to consider gauge 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.920 Wood in that and where this team is, you know, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.680 with the age of this team, the payroll, UH, the 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.679 desperation to win and win now, and what Mason Miller 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.200 could do for you. I would send some serious talent 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.560 U San Diego's way to get him not. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.800 Only for this year but for the next two as well. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.320 Bold Bold, big game hunting. I would go big game hunting, brother, 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.719 So that's just me. Would that include a two that 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.320 would have to include a Gauge Wood or an Andrew Painter. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.039 I would I would think him right. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.320 I would think it would have to take multiples because 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.840 Mason Miller is under control. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.719 He's got a tremendous amount of value. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:47.000 You saw what aj Preller did with Juan Soto. I mean, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.120 he's gonna try to get as much talent he possibly 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.400 can if that and that is probably the biggest guy 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.560 on the market. Everybody's looking for this type of a player, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.200 and if he does become available, man, there's gonna be 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.520 a it's gonna be tough to try to pry him. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.040 And the way San Diego has emptied out their farm 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.720 system with them falling out of it, they're gonna be 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.320 looking to restock that Thompson. Now it's gonna take multiples. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.760 He's got a hell of a trade ship there, because 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.480 that's a guy who can propel you to big places. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.640 If you fall short through. Because the competition for him 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.200 is going to be so intense, I guess you just 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.120 have to try to get what you can do. The 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.720 marginal upgrades we always talked about that with Pat Gillick 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.600 would say, incremental improvements, incremental upgrades, so anything is better 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.160 than nothing, I guess, yeah, no question. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.440 I mean, it's gonna be very difficult for Dave ne 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.400 Browse to come through this trade deadline without making a move. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.480 I know how difficult it is to make trades, and 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.520 they do not have a ton of pieces to do 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:41.920 it with. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.080 But you know, he's in a tough spot. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.720 But at the end of the day, these veteran players, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:53.760 the Harpers, schore Beers, Turners, the Zach Wheelers of the world, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.200 they are waiting and hoping JT. They're hoping that that 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.400 there's an addition to this team, one or two over 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.440 them to help this team try to propel them to 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.160 the next level and get it to the World Series 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:05.520 and win it. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.560 Yeah, they don't care about waiting on those prospects. They 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.200 want to it now and they want to have a 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:15.080 big addition to that team. And the most glaring need 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.360 now is late leverage bullpen, no doubt. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:23.080 Isn't it crazy how volatile the relief pitcher market is. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.200 You think I was just looking last night at some 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.080 of the Philly free agent relievers that were available in 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.400 the offseason. Edwin Diaz has been hurt. Robert Suarez right 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.400 now has hurt Ryan Helsley has heard. Devin Williams has 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:39.360 an ERA of over four and a half, Phil Maton 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.040 era over six, Fairbanks in era almost seven. You know, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.120 then you have other guys that have hit. Luke Weavers 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:50.120 pitched well, Kyle Finnegan has pitched well. Monster Energy Unleash 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:56.000 the Beast, bold moves, legendary kick feel your game day, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.720 Grab a Monster Energy drink at your local retailer. Today, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.160 we're back to Philly Show Live at Manco and Manco 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:09.160 and Ocean City. Charlie Manuel, Larry Boa. We're excited to 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:14.000 have him, Larry Larry uh Jim asked Charlie earlier about 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.679 Trey Turner at the plate. You know, defensively, he's had 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.320 some struggles this year. You played the position as well 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.560 as anybody in baseball history. Really, what do you think 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.040 is kind of going on? What do you think he 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.559 can do it in the second half to be a 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.400 little bit more of that lockdown, shortstoff that you gotta have. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.320 Well, you know, I think I've seen him make great 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.000 plays this year, but I've also seen him I think 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.520 a lot of it comes to concentration and he's really 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:46.120 upset with his offensive where he is right now, because 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.920 this guy's hit three hundred almost every year, and I 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.320 think sometimes I he's never said this to me, but 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:52.960 this is just me. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.880 I think sometimes he might. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.280 Take a lasted bat out there, or baby a babe 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.880 bases loaded and pop up a pitch that he thought 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.880 and the next pitch next time up ground ball. Mentally, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.200 he's got the skills and the guy works. I don't 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.760 want to hear people say he doesn't work. He takes 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:13.000 his ground balls every single day. Last year I thought 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.280 he did tremendous at short stock, and this year so 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.760 far he's taking a step back. But I expect him 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.640 to get hot. You know, people always getting on his defense. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.360 But I asked a couple of people yesterday, how many 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.480 games do you think And I'll ask you guys, you 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.400 guys watched all the game. How many games do you 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.400 think we've lost because of his defense? 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.520 Well, that's a good question, that's a good question. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.880 I mean he's put some he's put some heat on 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.160 the on the starting pitchers and their pitch counts. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:39.400 Right. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.720 I agree that in particular with Chris Sanchez a few times. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.280 But as far as losing actually losing, maybe just. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.679 A couple that's That's that's the point I try to make. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.120 But you're right about the pitch count. But when they say, ah, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.240 he's lost a ton of he hasn't lost a ton 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.559 of games. And he's gonna get hot offensively, and I 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.800 think they go hand in hand once he's swinging the 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.280 bat the way we know he's capable of. Last night, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.600 he got a home run late in the game. Hopefully 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.560 it'll carry over tomorrow we have a day game against 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.319 the Mets. But once this guy gets rolling, not only 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.559 is he gonna it's gonna solid it by his defense, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.800 it's gonna make our lineup much better too. When he 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.880 gets on, all kinds of stuff happens. And you know 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.360 a lot of times when he's not hitting Schwarb and 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.880 Harper coming up with nobody on there, but he's he's 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.439 gonna hit. This guy can hit, and I think he's 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.520 gonna have a good what we call second half. There 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.199 is about what seventy games left I think he's gonna do. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.560 Okay, I want to go down memory laying a little 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.439 bit here, Charlie, and I want to talk to you 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:39.200 about the uh your tenure as a manager here. I mean, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.040 obviously had an amazing run. What was your shit other 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.680 than obviously winning the World Series in two thousand and eighties, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.839 what was like your favorite thing to do while you 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.640 were managing? 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.600 Because you've done. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.839 Everything, a lot of things in the game. You've been 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.439 in Japan, you played in the major leagues, You've done 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.199 a whole bunch of stuff. But as far as was 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.920 your for some of your favorite moments over the last 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.199 you know, over. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:09.080 Over your career, during the course of your career, I think, uh, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.800 first of all, I love the game. I loved the 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.000 gamut the game ever since I was a little boy, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.680 and I've been very fortunate and lucky to be able 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:23.439 to stay around any game one time. And uh, I 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.760 the teacher, and I love to communicate with the players 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.000 like most no and I like to like. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.920 But at the same time, I. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.640 Want to be streaked enough we can be this one 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.120 enough to handle the game and be more and be 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.479 I like specialist professionally. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.000 I like this. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.840 I think if if you a good dis one person, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.720 then you when you have a good discipline, but at 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.360 the play there in the field, when you play playing game, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.960 I think if you don't have no discipline, that you're 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.439 gonna have a hard time I think that when you 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.880 go go go up to play the hit, I think 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.920 it's you be negative, not positive, and things in the 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.719 run run of doing your mind like you you know, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:22.040 you hit yep and things, but you gotta be totally 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:27.280 relaxed thinking what he's want to do. And actually, I 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.360 think if you really get down on that, when you 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.120 really concentration, who's pitching don't really matter. 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:35.880 I totally agrees. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.839 So I'm just gonna say this, I'm gonna throw this 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.280 commercial with that. I spent a lot of time with Charlie. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.319 Charlie was my hitting coach when I was playing for 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.360 the Cleveland Indians at the time. I will tell you 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.280 that Charlie Manuel was the hardest working hitting coach I've 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.880 ever seen. He not only worked with me he was 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.480 a terrible hitter, but he worked with guys like Manny 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.360 fer As an album Bell and Jim told me and 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.679 made them great rate hitters and in a lot of 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.839 cases he helped make them Hall of famers. So I 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.920 appreciate everything that you've done in the gage, Charlie, and 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.040 what you did for me and those players as well. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.400 So it's Ruben and Charlie go way back. Ruben I 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.760 think I quinn. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:19.520 I think I. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:21.840 Wool for guy. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.000 Everybody who play baseball, you know me. When I see 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:31.280 supposed to guy, I'll say something. Micro pitcher mad. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.760 Hey, I used to be in the minor leagues, but 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.520 I played in the minor leagues, said Charlie. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.880 Was a manager for a team in Colorado, trans who's 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.520 a Triple A affiliate for the Cleveland Energy and Idiots. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.960 And when other guys on other teams on our team 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.440 would hit home runs, he would stand up and cheer 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:48.920 for them. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.600 This starting pitcher's hating it. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:55.680 Problem. Charlie. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.720 You used to have an expression coach killing before you 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.000 work for the guy and he never gets any better. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:02.840 He's killer. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.840 That's what are you referring to? Jimmy, Who are you 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:15.320 referring to? Ruben fair Well? 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.720 The man in Cleveland? And somebody asked meant but flayer? 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.600 And uh yeah, I didn't fall was down on my 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.920 marred or didn't like him, but I don't well he worked. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:35.680 Hard personality, So let me ask you both know Ruben 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.640 in a lot of different ways. But Larry, when you 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.480 managed the ball ball called the assistant cham when you 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.360 managed ball club, Charlie, he's the GM What is the 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.680 interaction like between the manager and the GM in the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.880 front office at this time of year when you have 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.160 a good team that has laws or holes and the 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.120 trade deadline is approaching. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.800 Are you in there every day saying give me this, 0:15:58.960 --> 0:15:59.320 get me this. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.040 But what does uh I had when I managed, I 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.080 had Eddie Eddie Way. I thought he did a great job. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:07.920 He was great with me. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.040 He would come down and we talked before every game. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.160 It wouldn't be a long chalk maybe five minutes. And 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.680 then if we're on the road, he didn't go on 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.200 every road trip. He would call and check in. But 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.200 as far as what you need and everything, it has 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.400 a lot to do with the money. Like when I 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.400 had that team, they didn't have the payroll wasn't that big, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.360 and we were close in the three or four years. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.360 We needed a little jolt and we really didn't get it. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.880 One thing about John and the new owners. They have 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:44.600 that that money and they know that this window here, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.320 I'm not saying it's closing, but it's it's starting to 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:49.280 go the other way. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:50.360 And we got it. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.280 We got a good lineup, we got good starting pitching, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.800 and we got to fill in these voids here going 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.840 down the stretch. There's no question about that. But you know, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.040 I think you don't have to ask the manager what 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.480 they need. I think they're very knowledgeable up there. They 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.880 know they know exactly what the Phillies need. Eddie knew 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.200 what the Phillies needed, and he was honest with me. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.680 He says, we just we can't spend the money. Which, hey, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.080 as long as he was honest, that's all you can do. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.400 Well, Larry, Charlie, thanks so much for coming on the show. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:27.159 We really appreciate a lot of fun. Hilly Legend's Legend, Charlie, Emanuel, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.359 Larry bo thanks so much, guys. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:30.800 That was awesome. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:37.520 While Larry and Charlie Remigana moving, our friend Ruben har Yes, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.359 got something to tell us. Yes, indeed, Big weekend, Ruben, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.560 Big week, Big weekend. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.000 The World Soccer Final is Sunday afternoon. It's Spame versus Argentina, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.320 Yamal versus Messi. You can bet on all the final 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.760 match action on Sunday live. 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It's a great scene, Charlie, 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:06.920 and we're at. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.520 They are very very special human beings and Philly legends, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.240 and anytime we can spend some time with them and 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:15.640 pick their brain is pretty cool. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.040 And it is always awesome to see them walk into 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.840 a room anywhere, really in the ballpark, light up people. Yeah, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.080 they bring an energy, people get excited everywhere we go. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:27.640 They sit in the in the back of the press 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.680 box a lot and people walk by. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.000 Wait, you know next month is Alumni Weekend. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.440 They'll get the two biggest chairs on Friday night. 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.040 Yes, it is. It is pretty cool. Yeah, it's it's 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.240 a lot of fun to talk to those guys. You 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.760 just see them down spring training obviously also a lot 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.040 of fun. Brandon, can you hear us? 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:47.399 You? 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:47.719 All right? 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.320 We got Brandon Tuckworth joined the show with everybody what 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.320 Philly's former Phillies picture and now he works Now he 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:57.960 works as a scout for the Yankees. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.320 We have Brandon on last year? Was it? It was 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.120 around this time last year, right right before the trade deadline. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.440 So you're kind of like our our trade deadline scout 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:08.800