1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Google is bringing one of its best pixel features to 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: many more phones, including the iPhone. How young consumers are 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: driving Apple sales, The smartest new way to search Reddit, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: plus your tech questions answered. What is going on? I'm 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: where I talk about the tech stuff I think you 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: should know about. It's also the place where I answer 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: your questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Channel five in Los Angeles. Still drying off from getting 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: into the studio, Welcome to the show. Phone lines are 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: open at one eight eight eight Rich one oh one. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: That's triple eight seven four to two four one zero one. 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Give me a call if you have a question about technology. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: We'll take your calls, answer your questions, and just be 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: here for you. As you know, I'm broadcasting live from 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, typically known for its sun and fun, but 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of days it has been all about rain. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: It has been snowing. There's been sleet, something called I 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: think it's groppol. I don't know who calls it that. 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: No one I know we has called it sleet. It 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: has been non stop. It was so rainy over the 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: past couple of days. You would not believe you're in 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's so rainy and wet in Los Angeles, 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: the plants are like, okay, we'll never complain about being 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: thirsty again. It's so rainy and wet in Los Angeles. 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: At this point, the ocean is jealous of the land. 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: It is so rainy and wet. In Los Angeles. The 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: four or five at this point is just one big 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: slip in slide. It is so rainy and wet. In 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Umbrellas, yes, umbrellas are refusing to go outside. 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: It is so rainy in Los Angeles. The Hollywood Sign 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: is now surrounded by a moat. It's so rainy. In 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, studios just greenlit Noah's Ark two and this 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: one I got. It's so rainy in Los Angeles. California 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Pizza Kitchen is now the Rainforest Cafe, still serving the 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: same thing though it's so rainy. In Los Angeles, Apple 37 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: rushed out a software update to enable underwater mode. Yeah, 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you'll find it right next to airplane mode. It's so 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: rainy in Los Angeles. Weather apps just gave up. And 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: it's so rainy in Los Angeles. I had to take 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: Uber canoe to the studio today. All right, I don't know. 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, look, the rain gets you a little, you know, 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: cooped up, Like I was inside all night last night. 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: I was wondering if, like the roof is gonna fly 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: off with the wind. So I hope you enjoyed my 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: dad jokes. I don't know, maybe let me know what 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: you think. But in all seriousness, this rain is a 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: very serious thing in California, in Los Angeles because we're 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: just not used to it. So of course I'm a 50 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: little introspective and thinking about weather apps. So I posted 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: to my Instagram today at richon Tech a bunch of 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: useful weather apps. Now here's the thing. Bill, one of 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the folks behind this show, actually talked about this very 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: idea for one of the first shows. He said, rich 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: you should talk about how dark sky is no longer 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: a thing and Apple bought them and you know, some 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: alternative weather apps. And I was like, Bill, do people 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: really care? Let's be honest, there's there are two types 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: of people in this world. People that care about the 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: weather forecast and people that do not care about the 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: weather forecast. My wife is a weather forecast fanatic. She 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: checks her apps every minute of the day. It drives 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: everything she does, from what she wears to work in 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the morning to what she plans for the afternoon to 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: her drive. So let me give you a little background 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: about dark Sky. So this was an app and a 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: company that was very, very popular, and the reason they 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: were popular is they had this really spot on notification 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: technology that if it was going to start raining, they 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: would send you a notification saying, hey, we're predicting rain 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: in your area in the next seventeen minutes. You'd be like, what, 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: how do they know? How do they do this? I 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know how they do it? But it was so 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: good and it was pretty much the favored weather app 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: for both Android users and some iOS users until Apple decided, 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: you know what, this is pretty good technology, let's purchase it. 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: So they purchased this technology. I think it was like 78 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: back in a couple of years ago, and then immediately 79 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: they shut down the Android app. So all the Android 80 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: users were like, nap, sorry, no more, no more Dark 81 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: Sky for you. And then they took the technology and 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: they mixed it into their own weather app. So if 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: you have an iPhone, you've probably seen those little notifications 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: that say, hey, it's going to start raining your location 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: in the next you know, eight minutes. That's all because 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: of dark Sky. And then they're going ahead and they're 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: going to shut down these other what's called an API, 88 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: So other weather apps were able to tap into dark 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Sky and use that information to make their apps better. 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: That's called an API. Well, now Apple is going to 91 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: shut that off as of according to the website March 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty twenty three. But I think they actually 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: extended that. I think that was supposed to happen last year, 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: but I think because of the pandemic and all that stuff, 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: they said, Okay, we'll throw you a bone. We'll let 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: it stay for a little bit longer. So all these 97 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: apps that rely on dark Sky for this really cool 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: technology are now suddenly like, okay, now what do we do? 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: So I went through and I looked at some of 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: my favorite apps and some of the useful apps out there, 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: and I kind of did a little Instagram post. So 102 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: if you want to check it out, go to go 103 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: to my Instagram at rich on Tech and I'll go 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: through some of these apps and some of them were 105 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: suggested by users as well. But the first one is 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: called Windy. This app is really great if you love 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: full screen visualization. So if you just like seeing what 108 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: it looks like around you outside from space, this is 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: just a fantastic app for that because it lets you 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: scroll through all different kinds of visualizations, whether it's precipitation, 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: whether it's wind, whether it's lightning, and it's just a 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: nice big map to see that and that big map 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: animation sort of like what you see on the news. Right. 114 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: So Windy is the app for you. If you like that. 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Then there's an app called Overdrop, and this is one 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: of my favorites. This is a very minimalistic app. It's 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: very beautiful. Some people are calling it the Dark Sky 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: two point zero because it's easy to understand, it looks 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: really good, it functions very good. All of the basics 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: are on one page, so they've got these nice, beautiful animations. 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: At the top. You could see exactly what you need 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: to know, like the current conditions, the hourly forecast, and 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: then you can scroll down and see the rest of 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: what you need. Plus they do precipitation notifications and so 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: if you like those notifications that used to get especially 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: on Android from Dark Sky, Overdrop can maybe fill that 127 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: void now Overdrop is still powered by dark Sky, but 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: I was reading on their website and they said, no, no, 129 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: we've got some tricks up our sleeve. We're gonna switch 130 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: to some other providers once dark Guy goes away, but 131 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: right now they're still able to use that one. Now, 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: another app that's really bright and kind of fun, and 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: this is a very good app. I recommended it to 134 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: my mom and she used it for many many years 135 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: is called Hello Weather, and again very much like Overdrop, 136 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: but it's minimalistic. It's got nice, big kind of graphics. 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: It's got big bar charts that just tell you what 138 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: you need to know, so you get this nice, rich 139 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: visualization of the week ahead. So I can see today 140 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: we've got one hundred percent rain the forecast, Tomorrow it's 141 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: fifty five percent. Monday it's back to one hundred percent, 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: then Tuesday ninety five percent, Wednesday ninety percent. Oh my gosh, 143 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: what is happening here in California? And then Thursday it'll 144 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: be sunny. But I can see that really easily on 145 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: this app. So that one is very nice and simple 146 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to use. Now this next app, you're gonna love her hate. 147 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: It's called Carrot Weather, and I actually interviewed the founder 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: of this app a couple of years ago, and it's 149 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: so funny. Nice guy, but you go on this app 150 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and it is sooner for snarky and people love that 151 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: about this app. So, if you want your weather with personality, 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Carrot Weather is where you got to go. So you 153 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: can choose from You've got this slider and you can 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: choose from whatever you want your weather to be. Like, okay, 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: so you've got personality from just fun, sorry, just regular, 156 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Then you've got friendly, then you've got snarky, then you've 157 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: got homicidal, and then you've got overkill, which may have 158 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: the creative use of profanity in the forecasts. So if 159 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: you like your forecast with profanity, Carrot Weather is the 160 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: one you want. Now there's also a political slant to 161 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: this one, so you can have a slider for how 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: do you like your weather delivered? You can have a 163 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: political centrist, liberal, conservative, libertarian, communist, or anarchist. I don't 164 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: know what that means when it comes to weather, but 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you can try it out weather and people like it 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: because it's also very simple. Then you've got an app 167 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: called Underground. And the thing about Underground, it's actually I 168 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: think it's like Weather Underground, but it's from the same 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: folks that do the Weather Channel, which is now owned 170 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: by IBM, which is not the same as the Weather 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Channel on your TV by the way, so they're different 172 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: as far as I know. So the Weather Channel or 173 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Weather Underground Underground uses data from two hundred and fifty 174 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: thousand personal weather stations, so they boast these hyper local 175 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: weather forecasts. It also collects some information from your phone sensors, 176 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: and I know that the Weather Channel kind of got 177 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: in trouble for that when people realized that they were 178 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: using that information, so just be aware of that. But 179 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: this one is really very simple. It's kind of basic, 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: but it has all the information you need if you 181 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: want to take that deep dive again, same company as 182 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the Weather Channel. And then finally we've got this app 183 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: called climb Clime. This has a great radar imagery plus 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: all the vitals. So if you just want to scroll 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: through and see the wind, the visibility, the AQI, the humidity, 186 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: and the moon phase all in one place, you got 187 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: it on this app, plus the big radar screen. It 188 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: also has notifications for precipitation, so if you like that 189 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: it has it. It also has notifications for major changes 190 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: like lightning or other things that are happening with the weather. 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Now those require payment. Like a lot of these apps 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: are kind of the freemium model, which means the basics 193 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: are free, but you're gonna pay for the rest. And 194 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: this one out of all the apps, I mean, they 195 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: all push kind of a paid product, but this one 196 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: really pushes their paid product. I was getting a notification 197 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: or a pop up screen to switch to the paid 198 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: stuff like very very often on this one. So that's 199 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: called climb anyway, let me know in the comments. Go 200 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: to my Instagram at richon Tech, tell me which weather 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: app is your favorite. Of course, if you have a 202 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: local TV station in your area, like I work for KTLA, 203 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: they have their own weather apps as well, so you 204 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: can check those out because people like those because there's 205 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: a real human behind them in their neighborhood is helping 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: to program that information. But again, weather apps, uh, if 207 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: you use one, let me know. I know. My wife 208 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: has her favorite. She's checking it all the time and 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just the Weather Channel. After I posted this today, 210 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: she goes, I'm just pretty basic. I used the Weather Channel. 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: I said, that's fine. Whatever works for you. All right, 212 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: phone lines are open at triple eight rich one O one. 213 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 214 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: zero one. Got a lot coming up on this show, 215 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Great guests. This week, we're going to talk to the 216 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: director of the Worldwide Day of Unplugging. We're going to 217 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: talk about an app that's like Uber, but you can 218 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: make money doing other people's dirty laundry. Plus, we're going 219 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: to talk about how young people continue to drive Apple sales. 220 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: Plus your calls up next at triple eight rich one 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: O one. You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome 222 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Demiro. This is 223 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the show where we talk about technology and answer the 224 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: questions you have about technology. You can find me online 225 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: at richontech dot TV. Alex is in Northridge kicking off 226 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: this hour, Alex. Welcome to the show. How can I help? Hello, Alex, 227 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: am I doing something wrong? Okay? Do I hear you? Alex? 228 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: No? 229 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Let's try this once again, Alex. Are you there? Nope? Okay, 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: I guess Alex. Give me a call back, Alex. That's 231 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: what we can do there. All right, let's talk about 232 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: this while we wait for Alex to get back on 233 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: here Magic Eraser. This is a feature that is sort 234 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: of the big feature from the Pixel phones. It is 235 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: coming to more phones. This is a very big deal 236 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you watched the Super Bowl, 237 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: but Magic Eraser was one of the biggest features that 238 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: they advertised, and this commercial really landed with people. It 239 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: was Google. They showed a whole bunch of pictures, whether 240 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: it was including you know, some random person in the 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: background or an x and they said, look, if you 242 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: want to clean up your pictures and fix them up 243 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: and get them right, try Magic Eraser. And this is 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: a feature that's really been kind of the selling point 245 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: of Pixel phones for many years now. It was launched 246 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was launched with a Pixel 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: six perhaps, but it was exclusive to that phone, and 248 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: then it came to the Pixel seven. And you know, 249 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Google's gotten a lot of mileage out of this because 250 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: it allows you to just highlight something in a picture, 251 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: whether that's a person or an object, tap a button 252 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: and it disappears. And of course Google using artificial intelligence 253 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: and all their machine learning to figure out how to 254 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: do this and make the picture look pretty good. And 255 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: so if you wanted this feature, you had to go 256 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: to a Pixel and Samsung has a similar feature on 257 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: their phones in Samsung Labs called Eraser, and it works 258 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: pretty well. But again, Google kind of has the lock 259 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: on this. Well now, they said in a blog post 260 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: that Google Photos features are coming to not only more 261 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: pixel phones, but anyone who pays for storage on Google 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: that has an Android or an iOS phone. So if 263 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: you want to access Magic Eraser, all you have to 264 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: do is download Google Photos and be a paying member 265 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: of Google one. So this means that you're paying for 266 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: storage above and beyond the fifteen gigs that Google typically 267 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: gives you included. So the plans are one hundred gigs 268 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: starts at two dollars a month, two hundred gigs of 269 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: storage starts at three dollars a month, two terabytes starts 270 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: at ten dollars a month. And if you pay for 271 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: any of those plans, you now have access to Magic Eraser, 272 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: which is really cool on both Android and iOS. The 273 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: other thing you're going to get is this new HDR 274 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: video effect, So if you want to make your videos 275 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: look better with HDR, you can now export them with 276 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: this new effect, so it will balance dark foregrounds and 277 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,359 Speaker 1: bright backgrounds or vice. Versa and again machine learning, artificial intelligence. 278 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: This is a huge deal that Google is now allowing 279 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: this feature to work on so many more phones. It's 280 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: rolling out now. So if you don't have it in 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: your Google Photos just yet, you know, keep checking and 282 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: make sure you have those updates. All right, I'm told 283 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Alex is back. Alex is in north Ridge unless I'm 284 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: doing something wrong with the phones? Can you hear me, Alex, Yes, sir, 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: I can. How are you welcome to the show? What 286 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: can I help you with? 287 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: First question? I found a mouse that has a Bluetooth 288 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: adapters that I can plug into one computer and at 289 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: the same time it tears via Bluetooth to a second computer, 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: and there's a switch on it that I can switch 291 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: between the two computers to use one mouse. The question is, 292 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: do you know of a mouse that can control three 293 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: computers at the same time? Not at the same time, 294 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: you know, with a switch on it, I can flip 295 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: to basically control each of those three computers. 296 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: What are you running over here? What you got trading stocks? 297 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: Or what's happening here? 298 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: Not even close? No, it's f music applications. 299 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Music applications. Okay, so you've got a couple of different computers. 300 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: You want to use one keyboard three computers, okay, and 301 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: right now your mouse that you have can control two. 302 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 303 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: I found a mouse I forgot who the maker is, 304 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: has a kind of a switch on amb okay, and 305 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: the one way it connects via the built in kind 306 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: of wireless to one computer and it comes one of 307 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: those dongles that you can put into the second computer 308 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: and it pairs via bluetooth to that dongle. 309 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think what you're going to have to do. 310 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: There may be a mouse that does this, but I 311 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: think from everything I'm seeing, it's pretty much going to 312 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: be either a hardware solution, something called a KVM switch, 313 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: which you know, I think we're popular back in the day, 314 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: or if you run a large amount of computers, that 315 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: could be something that you want to look into KVM switch. 316 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: But I think software might work. So a couple of 317 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: things just doing a quick little search here that I'm 318 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: finding that may work. There is a Microsoft app called 319 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Mouse Without Borders and this says it can control up 320 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: to four computers with a single mouse and keyboard. This 321 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: is a product that has been out for a while. 322 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Says it was released in September twenty eleven, and so 323 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's something you can try, and it may 324 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: work with the mouse that you have already. That's probably 325 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: the easiest way. Now, that's given that these are all 326 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Microsoft computers, right are Windows computers? I should say if 327 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: it's a combination of computers, then you might want to 328 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: look at an app called Synergy. Synergy and Synergy lets 329 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: you work up to three computers, and it does look 330 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: like it works across Windows, Mac Os, Linux, and Raspberry 331 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Pie if you are running those Now you mentioned you're 332 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: running a music program a lot of times if you're 333 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: doing content creation, folks are working on a Mac computer. 334 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: So I think that would be probably your best solution 335 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: is either the switch or the Synergy. Alex. Sorry, I 336 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: don't have time for your second questions. I got to 337 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: run to break here, but thank you so much, and 338 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: let me know if that works all right? Coming up, 339 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: we are gonna do a great interview. This is something 340 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have debated. The blue versus 341 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the Green bubble article went viral this week that says 342 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: gen Z users are so loyal to the iPhone and 343 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: those blue bubbles that they sell a lot of Apple 344 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: products plus your phone calls at Triple eight Rich one 345 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: on one eighty eight seven four to two, four to 346 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: one zero one. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome 347 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. My name is Rich Demiro, 348 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. This 349 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: is the show where we talk about technology and answer 350 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: your questions. And one of the age old debates in 351 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: technology is iPhone versus androids, specifically the green bubble versus 352 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the blue bubble or vice versa, depending on which side 353 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: you're sitting on. And this was an article this week 354 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: that went viral. It's in the Financial Times how Apple 355 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: captured gen Z in the US and change their social circles. 356 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Patrick McGee is the author. He's joining me now, Patrick, 357 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 358 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 5: Hey, Rich, glad to be here. 359 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: So this article, I guess my first question is what 360 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: was the thesis behind it? Like, why did you decide 361 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: to write this? Because it really hit a nerve with 362 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: a lot of folks. 363 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's just underappreciated by investors. Just how 364 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: like what kind of good trajectory Apple is on over 365 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: the next decade. So if you think about other big 366 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: tech giants, right, gen Z doesn't particularly love Amazon. They 367 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 5: use it, but they feel guilty. They think Facebook is 368 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: for old people, and I don't know how many of 369 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 5: them are really getting into the metaverse. Google is sort 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: of being taken over by obviously chat GBT in the 371 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 5: last few months, but even before that, you know TikTok 372 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: where people are doing you know, sort of like video 373 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 5: mapping as a way to sort of find a restaurant, 374 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: right preferences are selected by people that they know or 375 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: other TikTokers rather than a sort of Yelp type review 376 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: that you might find through Google. So it just seems like, 377 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: you know, big tech is obviously massive, but it doesn't 378 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 5: necessarily have the next generation until you look at Apple, 379 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: where not only is it sort of continuing to have 380 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: a hold on the next generation, it's got a massive 381 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: stay change where you've got upwards of ninety percent of 382 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: American teenagers already have an iPhone and continue to want 383 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: an iPhone for the next hand set. 384 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: And the way that that kind of plays out is 385 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the fact that when Apple sells iPhones, they sell other 386 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: things as well, like an iPad or an Apple Watch 387 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: or AirPods. And you're you're saying that this is good 388 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: for business in the future, basically because this generation is 389 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: going to grow up really a meshed in this stuff. 390 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, the Apple ecosystem is so sticky that 391 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 5: if you are going off to college after having an 392 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: iPhone in the past decade, you're not really thinking, hmm, 393 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: I wonder what sort of laptop I should buy. You're 394 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: really thinking what type of MacBooks should I buy? And 395 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 5: I could say the same thing for headphones, certainly for 396 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: smart watches. You know how many iPhone users have a 397 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: non Apple smartwatch? Like it's just like anecdotally, I don't 398 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: know anybody, are. 399 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: There any I don't even know if there is one. 400 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you use like a garment. I 401 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: had a guy at my work that, you know, he 402 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: got a garment because he didn't want an Apple watch. 403 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: He said it maybe wasn't as specific as he wanted 404 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: for his workouts. And of course a week later he 405 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: comes back, nag, I got the Apple Watch. And its 406 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: just that's sort of what happens. 407 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 5: Yes, And actually that's a that's a fair exception actually 408 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: that even though in this anecdote it didn't work out. 409 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: You know, garmin like the athletics scene would be a 410 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: little bit different, But I was thinking more of like, 411 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: who's buying like a Samsung or an Android watch? You know, 412 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: picks a watch that that can work with Apple, but 413 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: I don't think most people sort of care that it does. 414 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: They would rather have an Apple Watch. But yeah, the 415 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: Apple Watch Ultra is basically eating into the dominance that 416 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 5: Garment has in watches for Ultra marath outons and the 417 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 5: leg Now one. 418 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: Of the big kind of delineations between the iOS and 419 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: and Apple and of course Android is this whole idea 420 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: of the blue bubble versus the green bubble, a problem 421 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: that was sort of manufactured by Apple. But this was 422 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: a really smart sort of business decision they made to 423 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: withhold I message from Android. 424 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 5: So yes and no, I think it was somewhat inadvertent. 425 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: So when when I message was created, SMS was the default. 426 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: Now in the year's sense, something called RCS Rich Communication 427 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 5: Services has sort of become the norm on Google, I'm sorry, 428 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: on Android, And why that matters is RCS is far 429 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 5: superior to SMS when it comes to sharing rich media, 430 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 5: so you know, high definition videos or pictures and you know, 431 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 5: even things like emoticons and things like that. But Apple's 432 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: sort of similar you know tool is I Message. So 433 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 5: in a sense, Apple was actually just sort of like 434 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: creating its own technology and releasing it to the iPhone 435 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: at a time when I Message was superior to SMS, 436 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: and so that was clever on their part. But what 437 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: happened is, you know, I sort of like a sort 438 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 5: of well, you know, so if you're messaging on I Message, 439 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: all the messages are blue, just to show you, you know, 440 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: it's not sort of trying to build a community. It's 441 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: just telling you that everything's operating through IM message, right, 442 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: But if you are either sort of on Wi Fi 443 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 5: or operating on an Android, it will just show that 444 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: it's a green that it will show its green purely 445 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: to indicate that it's a different messaging like default system. 446 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: Then it's sort of how you and I and teenagers 447 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: sort of began to feel about that, right. And so 448 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: what happens is it's not just this aesthetic thing between 449 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: blue and green bubbles, and I think a lot of 450 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: people wrongly think that it is. It's that if you 451 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: have a group of iPhone users and accept into the 452 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: group chat a single Android user, everybody's message goes green, right, 453 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 5: Which is to say that instead of the rich media 454 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 5: service I Message, you have SMS, which means that even 455 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 5: if you're an iPhone user sending a message to another 456 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: iPhone user, you're going to have glitchy system where the 457 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: definition of the video and the pictures that you take 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: and are not as good as they would be with 459 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: I Message. So I just want to make that clear. 460 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: It's not an aesthetic thing. And it was so sort 461 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: of inadvertent on the part of Apple's part, But over 462 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: the last decade, Apple has begun to understand that this 463 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: is quite a selling point and that the sort of 464 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 5: community elements that they inadvertently built has actually really paid 465 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 5: off with them. 466 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: Now, Google did a big or they tried to do 467 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: sort of a big campaign last year that was all 468 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: about kind of shaming Apple into saying, Apple, we've got 469 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: this RCS, this Rich Communications service, which now you know, 470 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: you've got I Message, but there's something that works across 471 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: all phones called RCS, and you're still defaulting to SMS. 472 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: So Apple, why are you holding your users back and 473 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: the cross platform exchange back by not enabling this on 474 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: your smartphones? And basically Apple just ignored this whole campaign, 475 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: and I think it sort of fell flat with consumers 476 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: that didn't really resonate. Do you think Apple's to blame 477 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: here for not including rcs and their phones at this point? 478 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't believe there's any technical reason why 479 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 5: Apple couldn't adopt OURCS. And the nice thing about this question, 480 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: act is I think we pretty well know the answer 481 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 5: because Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, was directly asked 482 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 5: at an event held in Beverly Hills last autumn. And 483 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 5: so somebody said, you know, my mom is in we're 484 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 5: in South America, and you know, we can't exchange tech 485 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: messages back and forth and videos back and forth without 486 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: there being glitchous here and there because I have an iPhone, 487 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: she is an Android. And Tipcok's answer, with a big laugh, 488 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 5: was by your mom and iPhone. 489 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Which I don't like that answer. I mean, that's you know, 490 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: come on, it's like, let's I don't know, I really 491 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: find an issue with this. Now. I understand that I 492 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: do like the whole IE message platform, and I do 493 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: feel a certain way when I'm messaging people on I 494 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: Message versus Android, because you just feel like you can 495 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: exchange you know, a video or you know, a picture 496 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: and it's going to come through at full resolution, and 497 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: there's been problems like let's say you're at your kids 498 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: baseball game and you know, you take a video of 499 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: another kid and he gets a good you know, a 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: good hit or something, and the parents like, oh, you 501 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: share that with me, and you're like, cool, I'll just 502 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: air drop it, and you're like, oh, you've got Android. 503 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: I can't do that. It's a it's a real thing, 504 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: not just for gen Z. By the way, we're talking 505 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to Patrick McGee. He is a tech reporter for the 506 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Financial Times, and we're talking about his article about how 507 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Apple Basically he believe that sales of Apple products are 508 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: just going to increase because of gen Z's loyalty to 509 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: these products. And one of the stats you put in 510 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: your piece is that globally, for every one hundred iPhones shipped, 511 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Apple sells twenty six iPads, seventeen Apple watches, and thirty 512 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: five AirPods. When it comes to Samsung, for every one 513 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: hundred smartphones they ship, that leads to fewer than eleven tablets, 514 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: six smart smart watches, and six wireless earbuds. That's probably 515 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: because there's much more choice on the other side. I 516 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: guess right, Oh. 517 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: I don't know about that. I mean, that's actually that's 518 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: interesting to ask. I mean, perhaps that's true. Yeah, it's 519 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 5: definitely true that if you have any sort of Android device, 520 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 5: most of the other adjacent Android products will work for 521 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 5: your phone, which is to say, if you have a 522 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 5: Pixel phone, you can get you know, Sampung buds and 523 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 5: they will be totally fine. So yes, that's true. But 524 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 5: I guess the point I'm trying to make is that 525 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: when you're entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, very likely to 526 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: buy more Apple products. That is very true true if 527 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: you're in any of the Android universes. 528 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Samsung has worked, and I 529 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: think the last two I would say, the last two 530 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: events I went to from Samsung, they're really trying to 531 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: bring that ecosystem closer. And in fact, I would almost argue, 532 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you're using an iPhone, it's it's 533 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: so seamless to work between a MacBook, an iPad, the 534 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: air pods, it all works together really well. Apple TV. 535 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: I went to purchase an app on my Apple TV 536 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: last night and it said, hey, just authorize this on 537 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: the iPhone, and I thought, oh, that was really cool. 538 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: You just kind of click and use your face ID. 539 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: But Samsung is really doing a lot of this now 540 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: with sort of Windows and the other side of things, 541 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Like they're going more towards like okay, well you've got 542 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: the Apple stuff, we'll do the Windows stuff. And so 543 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I think that that Samsung is making progress in that 544 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: area too. 545 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: So they absolutely are. But this is what I would say, 546 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 5: They're never going to be able to do as good 547 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 5: a job as Apple. And the clear reason why is 548 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: you're mentioning Windows. Who on Windows it's not Samsung, right, right, 549 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 5: So from the ground up, like literally from the chip 550 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: level and software level, you know, on up, Apple designs 551 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: its phones and systems in such a way that working 552 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: together is not some sort of afterthought that's recrofitted into 553 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: the system, right, It's just from the ground level. Samsung 554 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: just not gonna be able to do that if they're 555 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 5: still working on Android, which is the well, actually, you know, 556 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: I'll come back to that in a second. They're not 557 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 5: going to be able to do that if they're working 558 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: with with you know, Windows on computers. But the point 559 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: I was just about to make that I sort of 560 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: corrected myself on is when it comes to owning the ecosystem, 561 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 5: just on Android. The problem isn't that they can't make 562 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 5: things work together. The problem is it doesn't have any 563 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: walls in the garden, right, which is to say, things 564 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: can work pretty well between Samsung devices, but any other 565 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 5: Android maker can basically make that make the same push. Right. 566 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: So with Apple, you're sort of locked in as a consumer, right. 567 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: I know other computers that's going to run iOS. That's 568 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: just not true, which. 569 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Is why with Andrew right, which is why Apple loves 570 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the walled garden of I message, which is very popular 571 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: here in the US, But you talk to other folks 572 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: outside the US, they're not as enthralled. Patrick, I'm gonna 573 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: have to leave it there. Thank you so much. I'll 574 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: put a link to you on your Twitter on my website. 575 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV. Patrick McGee with Financial Times, 576 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today. 577 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: Cheers, Rich, that was great. 578 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Thanks all right. Coming up in the show, more of 579 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: your calls at Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's 580 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 581 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: zero one. We're gonna talk about the startup that lets 582 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: you make money doing other people's dirty laundry, and later 583 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: in the show, I've got the new Best way to 584 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Search Reddit. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back 585 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. My name is rich Jimuro hanging 586 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: out with you here talking technology. Got a couple of 587 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: direct messages on my Instagram at rich on Tech. Linda said, 588 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: liked your dad jokes. Is dad joke a compliment or not? 589 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, kind of up there 590 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: with the bot. I guess. I don't know. Is that 591 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing? Love your jokes, 592 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Christina wrote in Christina, thank you. I appreciate it. Those 593 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: jokes came to me when I woke up this morning 594 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: because I listened. I think it was because I listened 595 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: to the rain all night and I was just like, 596 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I just just was, So it was 597 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: just comical, like we don't get this much rain where 598 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I live, and so you know, you got a joke 599 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: about it. Let's tell you about PlayStation VR two. So 600 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: you're probably familiar with the idea of virtual reality. You've 601 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: got the Oculus well Sony has had another headset called 602 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: the PlayStation VR and they're on their second generation of it. 603 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: So the PlayStation VR two launched this week and it 604 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: has some new features and unique features compared to some 605 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: of the other VR headsets out there. Now, I saw 606 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: this at CS, I did not try it out at CS, 607 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: so I can't give you my personal opinion of this 608 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: other than I think all of these products are very 609 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: early stage. Unless you are an early adopter and you 610 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: just love this stuff, I don't know if they're one 611 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent ready for prime time just yet, especially due 612 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: to the price tags. These things are very expensive. This 613 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: headset is five hundred and fifty dollars and that does 614 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: not include the PlayStation five that you need to use 615 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: this headset. But with all that said, it's got controllers 616 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: with haptic feedback, so you can feel what's happening in 617 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: the game, like Sony gave the example of whether you're 618 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: pulling a bow string or you know, the vibration effects 619 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: during an epic boss battle. It also knows where your 620 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: fingers are on the on the the actual device itself. 621 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Then the headset itself has feedback. They're not calling it 622 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: haptic feedback, but there's some vibrations that add an element 623 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: of tactileness, so you can feel things like, you know, 624 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: if something passes by your head, you can feel that, 625 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: or if a you know, car whizz is by. You 626 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: can feel that as well. Three D audio is also 627 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: built in. Three D audio is a really cool feature 628 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: which lets you hear audio all around you from coming 629 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: from different angles. Kind of like when you're in the 630 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: movie theater and they play that opening thing and it says, 631 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, the audios all around you. That's kind of 632 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: like what's happening with earbuds right now, the high end earbuds. 633 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: And speaking of audio, there's no audio built into this headset. 634 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: You do need to use earbuds with this headset that 635 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: are you know, built in as well, but it's not 636 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: a speaker like many of the VR headsets. There's also 637 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: eye tracking, so the headset knows where you're looking. It 638 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: offers a display up to four k HDR, so pretty 639 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: high resolution. That's one of the problems I have with 640 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: the Oculus is the current Oculus. The resolution is not 641 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: that great. You can definitely see the pixels for sure. 642 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Some of the games that launch include Horizon, Call of 643 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: the Mountain, Grand Turismo, Star Wars, Resident Evil Village, and 644 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: one I can't wait for Tetris Effect. I would play this, 645 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Again, you do need a PS five 646 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: for the PlayStation VR two headset, and the reviews I'm 647 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: reading are sort of mixed on whether this thing is 648 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: comfortable or not so, but most everyone agrees it is 649 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: a big upgrade from the first model. All right, now, 650 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: let's go to Suzanne. Suzanne, you're on with Rich Are 651 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: you there? 652 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: I'm doing great? 653 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing great? Okay, I don't know 654 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: what happened there, but welcome to the show. 655 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: How can I that's all right? 656 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: Good morning or afternoon. 657 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: I need a new internet company. I love, love, love 658 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 7: my current internet company, and I will give them a 659 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 7: shout out if you want. They're phenomenal their service and 660 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 7: that knowledge is great. However, my phone lines, which are 661 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 7: owned by AG and T, are abysmal and will not 662 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 7: be upgraded, so I have unreliable internet. The company that 663 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 7: I pay is so great at responding, but if I 664 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 7: can't rely on it, then it's you know, even it's 665 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 7: just frustrating. 666 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: I can't use cable. 667 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 7: I wouldn't use my local cable company if they're the 668 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 7: last thing in the world. I'd rather have nothing than that. 669 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 7: Oh wow, I do need I do need an internet, 670 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 7: and I do need landline. So I'm wondering what. 671 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm in Orange County, California. 672 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 7: I have access to a lot of things. So I'm 673 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 7: wondering what my options are at this point in the 674 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 7: technology world. 675 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, okay, if you don't why why do 676 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: you not like the local and I have a feeling 677 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: I know which local company you're talking about? Does it 678 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: start with an F that's. 679 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 7: An as, like Suze my first name. 680 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: Oh it starts with an AS. Oh wow? Okay, Well, 681 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I guess I could have guessed anything. Because people hate 682 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: all the all the cable companies for some reason. I 683 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: don't know why. I mean, I guess it's one of 684 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: these things that you set up once and you know, 685 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: you just kind of go with it. So if you're 686 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: not willing to go with them, there's a couple of 687 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: things you can do. I don't I thought you were 688 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere and you needed like a 689 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: satellite provider. You know, that's very slow and not very expensive, 690 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: and that's probably not your best bet, although you know, 691 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: you could look into Starlink if you have a backyard. 692 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: That's Elon Musk's you know, satellite internet, which I think 693 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: is overkill. You live in a you know, a populated area, 694 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: So the website that I would check out is allconnect 695 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: dot com a L l C O n n ECT 696 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: all connect dot com, and that is a website that 697 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: sort of helps you figure out which providers are in 698 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: your area, and so if you know if there's a 699 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: provider that may you know. Sometimes these providers provide Internet 700 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: in an area that are a smaller company, but they 701 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: maybe use the lines of a different company. So you're 702 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: still getting the nice, unique service that you want, and 703 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like you want that kind of hands on service, 704 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: but it's being delivered through a line that maybe AT 705 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: and T operates or Frontier Spectrum or who knows. But 706 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: that's probably the best place to look is all connect 707 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: dot com. If that doesn't work, I would maybe talk 708 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: to some neighbors and see what they have, see if 709 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: there's some local companies. Sometimes there's some companies that are 710 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: just small businesses that serve There's one more company called 711 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: Starry Internet. I don't know if they're by you, and 712 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: I think they're having some trouble as well, but Storry 713 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: Internet delivers internet wirelessly. You can check to see if 714 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: they're available in your neighborhood. That's story dot com. But 715 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: those are the best places to go. You know, I 716 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: think starlink is overkill for you, But if you refuse 717 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: to use your local provider, there's not many There's just 718 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: not many options right now. Until we get more satellite 719 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: internet options, Susanne, it's just not gonna be a thing. 720 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we're gonna talk about the 721 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: startup that helps you make money doing other people's dirty laundry. 722 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: Plus i'm gonna tell you about the new Chrome features 723 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: that will save your battery and maybe even make Chrome 724 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: run faster. Plus your calls at triple eight Rich one 725 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 726 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: four one zero one. You're listening to Rich on tech Michael. 727 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: You are on with uh, I'm gonna call myself technical 728 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: difficulties Rich today. How you doing pretty good? 729 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. I'm an Android user, so 730 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 4: I have the Amazon Prime app on my tablet in 731 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: my phone for watching video for watching my movies. When 732 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 4: I purchase a movie now on the app, it doesn't 733 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: allow me to do that. It tells me I have 734 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: to go to the the you know, go to their 735 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 4: website to purchase the movie now. So I'm no longer 736 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: able to purchase the movie through the app. 737 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm my Android, and you used to be able to exactly. 738 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the app, it's more convenient, but now 739 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: I have to go to www dot Amazon, Prime Video 740 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: dot com to purchase an app. Now, if it's a 741 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: free if it's a free movie, it starts up no 742 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 4: problem on the app, right. 743 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: But if it's something like that, like a movie that 744 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: you have to pay to rent or to purchase, you 745 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: can't do it through the app anymore. 746 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: Right, exactly. And I'm gonnaccount with them, So I'm not 747 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: sure why that changed, or a contract that. 748 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: Was canceled or Yeah, it's frustrating. And I'll explain what's 749 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: going on here. And this is this is a change 750 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: that we're seeing across the internet. And the big, the 751 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: big thing that's happening here is that Amazon does not 752 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: want to pay tax to Google. So both Google and 753 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: Apple they charge companies that process any sort of digital 754 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: transaction through their platform. They charge them a percentage of that. Now, 755 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: there are different things, like if you're ordering DoorDash, usually 756 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: they don't get a cut of that. But when it 757 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: comes to digital goods, whether you are buying, you know, 758 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: a subscription to a music service or a movie or 759 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: pretty much anything an app for ninety nine cents. They 760 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: are taking a cut of that. Whether it's you know, depends. 761 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: Typically it's about thirty percent, sometimes could be fifteen, depending 762 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: on that. So this comes into play. This is horrible 763 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: for consumers, by the way, because I experienced this when 764 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: I wrote my book and I sold it as an 765 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: ebook and people were telling me, hey, Rich, I can't 766 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: buy it through the Amazon app, And I said, wait, why, 767 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: what do you mean you can't buy it on iPhone. 768 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: Now this back when I did my book a couple 769 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: of years ago, it was different. On Android, you could 770 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: buy the book through the Amazon app, but on iPhone 771 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: you couldn't. But because the book was called one hundred 772 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: and one Handy Tech Tips for the iPhone, people are 773 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: buying it for the iPhone, so they wanted to buy 774 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: it through the iPhone. Well, when you went to the 775 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: Amazon app on iPhone, what it's say this this book 776 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: is not available for purchase through the Amazon app, and 777 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: people will be like, wait, why not? But it didn't 778 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: give any explanation as to how you can purchase it. 779 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: Same thing with this Android. Now you're saying that it's 780 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: telling you to go to the website to actually purchase 781 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: the movie, which is a good thing because it's saying like, 782 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: here's what you have to do. But on Apple's rules, 783 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the times you can't tell the customer 784 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: that they need to go somewhere else. So let's say 785 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: you want to subscribe to something inside an app, and 786 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: that app maker doesn't want to pay the thirty percent 787 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: to Apple. All they can say is, we're sorry, you 788 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: can't subscribe through this app. That's it. They can't say, hey, 789 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: please go to www dot whatever dot com to subscribe. 790 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: They can't say that because that's against Apple's rules. So 791 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: this really comes into play with movies, with ebooks, with 792 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: anything that is sort of a digital good that you're 793 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: buying on your phone that's not happening through a web browser. 794 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: If you're going through a web browser, it's fine, but 795 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: most of the time people are buying things through apps, 796 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 1: and that's what you're experiencing. So, Michael, what's changed here 797 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: is that Amazon has said, you know what, we don't 798 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: really feel like paying this tax anymore, so we're not 799 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: going to let you you know, we're not going to 800 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: let you buy these things through this app. We're going 801 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: to make you go to the Apple or the Amazon 802 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: website and I'm trying to look here on you know, 803 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's say, if I want to that movie Megan, which 804 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: I know is available for rent or for purchase here. Okay, 805 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: So if I go to Megan on the app here, 806 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: the Prime app says available to buy, how do I 807 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: watch this? And I click that it says how do 808 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: I watch this rent or buy at Amazon dot com 809 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: to watch in the Prime Video app? Now, if I 810 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: go to the let's see, do I have the Prime 811 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: Video app on my iPhone? I don't, so I have 812 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: to download that to see what it says on there. 813 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: But the reality is I just encountered this the other 814 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: day with Spotify, and I actually took a screenshot because 815 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: I was so I couldn't believe how this stuff happens 816 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: and how it's so bad for consumers that just don't 817 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: know any better, Like they just go, wait, I can't 818 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: subscribe to Spotify through the iPhone. So if you go 819 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: on the iPhone and try to subscribe to Spotify, it 820 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: says missing premium, you're in luck, and it tells you 821 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: what you can do, and it says you can't upgrade 822 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: to premium in the app. We know it's not ideal, 823 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: and that's it. Spotify cannot say anything else about how 824 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: you can actually go to subscribe, which is just really 825 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: really poor. If you go over to the Android side 826 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: of things, it's a little bit better. You can subscribe 827 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: inside the app and it says how do you want 828 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: to pay? You can pay for premium directly through Spotify 829 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: or using your Google Play account. Now, sometimes this is 830 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: another thing that happens, and actually it's this is such 831 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: a great question, Michael. If you are subscribing to a 832 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: service through the app on iOS, oftentimes you will pay 833 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: more for that service just because you're subscribing through the app. So, 834 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: for instance, I'm trying to think of a good example, 835 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 1: if you subscribe through Hulu through the iOS app, right, 836 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: it will sometimes charge you a little bit more than 837 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: you would pay if you just subscribe to Hulu through 838 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: Hulu dot Com. You might pay a dollar, two dollars, 839 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: three dollars more for that. So I don't even know 840 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: if you can subscribe to Hulu anymore through iOS if 841 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: you want. But the reality is this is a real, 842 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: real problem, and I understand. Look, Apple came up with 843 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: this incredible platform right, and Android has this incredible platform 844 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: with so many customers that come through these doors because 845 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: they're on Android or they're on the iPhone. So I 846 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: understand why these companies believe that they deserve a cut 847 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: of that money. At the same time, it does make 848 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: it very tricky for consumers to not even understand what's 849 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: happening here. Why can't I subscribe on my phone? Why 850 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: can't I buy this ebook on my phone? Why can't 851 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: I rent this movie on my phone unless it's through 852 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: Apple or unless it's through Google Play, you can, you know, 853 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: shop till you drop on those things. Another good example 854 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: is on if you have YouTube TV, you know, if 855 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: you're on Android, you can upgrade right through the app. 856 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: If you're on iOS you can't. So there's a lot 857 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: of different ways that this comes into play, and you 858 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: just have to realize that these are big companies. There's 859 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake. Thirty percent of a 860 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: dollar times millions upon millions of people really adds up 861 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: to a lot. And I feel like there's going to 862 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: be some sort of change because it's really tough to 863 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: think that. I mean, Fortnite is one of the biggest 864 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: fighting this whole thing. But it's just really tough to 865 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: think that. You know, consumers are really losing here in 866 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: the fact that things are just not easy for them 867 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: to do that you think would be simple. You know, 868 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: if you want to purchase through your phone or you 869 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: want to purchase through your computer, it should be the 870 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: same thing. But it's just not. And it all really 871 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: comes down to these rules. All right. Coming up on 872 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: the show, we are going to talk to the startup 873 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: that lets you make money doing other people's dirty laundry. 874 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: Later in the show, podcasts are coming to another place, 875 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you the app that will soon have 876 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: podcasts making it easier to listen to your favorite shows 877 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: like this plus more of your questions At triple eight 878 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 879 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. You are listening to 880 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here, Welcome back to Rich 881 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: on Tech. There are a lot of ways to work 882 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: from home, but this gig is pretty unique. It's called 883 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: Sudshare and it's the uber of laundry. Basically, you're picking 884 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: up other people's laundry. You wash it at your house, 885 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: then fold it and return it within twenty four hours. 886 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: Then you get paid. Recently, I spoke with Sudshare CEO 887 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: Mort Fertel about the company. My first question, how do 888 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: you come up with the idea? 889 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 8: Actually, my wife, they came up with it. One comment 890 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 8: she made in twenty seventeen started the whole thing. She 891 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 8: was home with our five kids, buried in laundry, and 892 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 8: she's like, this is crazy. I can tap an app 893 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 8: and get to the airport FaceTime some on the other 894 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 8: side of the world, but I'm still doing laundry like 895 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 8: my grandmother. And as always she was right. Technologies made 896 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 8: everything so fast and easy, except for this chore that 897 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 8: takes the longest that we hate the most, laundry. It's 898 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 8: actually shocking if you think about it, that there's been 899 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 8: We're in the midst of this technological revolution, and yet 900 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 8: there's been no innovation in this space since the washer 901 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 8: and dryer almost a century ago. And as a result, 902 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 8: in America, we're spending thirteen billion hours and seventy five 903 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 8: billion dollars a year doing something that literally no one 904 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 8: wants to spend any time and money doing. There just 905 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: hasn't been a good alternative. We like to say that 906 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 8: there are three things certain in life, death, taxes and laundry. 907 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 8: So sud share solves laundry. It's incredibly simple. You just 908 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 8: tap the app and it's done, wash, dry, fold, pick 909 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 8: up and delivery. We call it Life Without Laundry, and 910 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 8: it's powered by this nationwide network of over two hundred 911 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 8: thousand professional launderers. 912 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: Next, I wanted to know how does sueddshare work. Exactly. 913 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very simple. So as a customer, you simply 914 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 8: create an account on the app, you tap do my laundry. 915 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 8: You take your laundry, you put it at your designated 916 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 8: pickup location, for example your back door or your front porch, 917 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 8: and you're done. You go on with your day. You 918 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 8: enjoy your life, You go out on a date, you 919 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 8: go exercise and spend time with your kids. You do 920 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 8: what you really want to do, which is not laundry. 921 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 8: Somebody comes, when of our launderers comes, they pick it up, 922 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 8: they wash it, dry it, fold it and return it 923 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 8: to you the next day. 924 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: So who are these people that are doing my laundry? 925 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 8: Such share is offering the first ever man annual labor 926 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 8: work from home gig in the world. There's a lot 927 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 8: of people that want to work from home, but they 928 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 8: don't want to do it being tied to a desk. 929 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 8: They want to be more active, or maybe they don't 930 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 8: have the skills to sit behind a desk and work 931 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 8: from home, but they want to work from home nonetheless. 932 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 8: So this is the first ever manual labor work from 933 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 8: home gig in the world where people take their laundry 934 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 8: room and basically turn it into a work from home gig. 935 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 8: We have a lot of for example, a lot of 936 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 8: stay at home moms that need to keep an eye 937 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 8: on their kids and they want a little they want 938 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 8: to earn some extra income while they're doing it. 939 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: This is the interesting part. Apparently you can make some 940 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: decent money doing other people's dirty laundry. 941 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 8: Our top ten sudsters are earning over five thousand dollars 942 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 8: a month, the top one hundred launderers are earning over 943 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 8: twenty one hundred dollars a month. And then we have 944 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 8: thousands of sudstters that are doing it part time just 945 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 8: to pay a bill or earn a little extra money. 946 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 8: It's totally flexible. It's gigwork. You can work when you want, 947 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 8: as much as you want, to make as much as 948 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 8: you want. 949 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: Once again, we're hearing from more Furtel CEO of a 950 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: company called sud Share. They call themselves the Uber of Laundry. 951 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about the people doing my laundry. 952 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: Are they trained or vetted in any way? 953 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 8: Yes, so they are vetted very carefully. They go through 954 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 8: an ID check, they go through a background check, They 955 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 8: also go through They also go through a series of 956 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 8: articles and videos that explains best practices and explains also 957 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 8: what customer expectations are, so they know exactly how to 958 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 8: do the laundry, when is pick up, when is delivery, 959 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 8: how you're supposed to fold it, how you're supposed to 960 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 8: deliver it, how you're supposed to communicate with customers. And 961 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 8: then we have also an algorithm that is rating the 962 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 8: performance of the launderers on dozens of different factors, and 963 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 8: the highest rated launderers get ranked the highest and get 964 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 8: access to most of the orders. So we actually have 965 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 8: about twenty percent of the launderers doing eighty percent of 966 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 8: the of the orders, So the vast majority of our 967 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 8: customers are serviced by the most experienced in best launderers. 968 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: Fluff and folds have been around forever, so I was 969 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: curious how sudshare compares themselves, So. 970 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 8: Sudshare, you really can't compare it to a local laundry service. 971 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 8: I'man a local laundry service. First of all, many of 972 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 8: them don't pick up and deliver. You actually have to 973 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 8: take it there. And you know, the whole point of 974 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 8: this is for it to be convenient. So the beautiful 975 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 8: thing about sudshare is you just tap the app, put 976 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 8: the laundry at your pickup location, like your front door, 977 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,879 Speaker 8: and you're done. Everything is included, pick up delivery, wash, 978 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 8: drive fold. All you have to do is get dressed, 979 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 8: whereas with a local wash and fold, generally speaking, pick 980 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 8: up and delivery is not included. And even if it is. 981 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 8: We're a tech company, and so it's this seamless, frictionless 982 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 8: experience on the app that makes everything so simple. And 983 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 8: certainly your local fluff and fold company is not doesn't 984 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 8: have that. You know that that tech experience. Next is 985 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 8: such share conserviace sheeting no matter where you are, so 986 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 8: it's not just when you're home, but it's when you 987 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 8: go on vacation, when you travel for business. We're in 988 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 8: five hundred markets nationwide, So as long as you've got 989 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 8: your phone with you and you've got the app on 990 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 8: your phone. You've got a such Share account and you 991 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 8: can and you can place the laundry service order. So 992 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 8: we have lots of people now that are traveling for 993 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 8: business that are packing much lighter than they ever packed 994 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 8: before because they're just using a laundry service while they're gone. 995 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: And along those lines, I wanted to know what can 996 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: I get laundered? This is not a dry cleaning service. 997 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 8: We don't do dry clean but we launder everything. We 998 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,959 Speaker 8: don't do ironing, So if you have shirts that need 999 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 8: to be ironed, you know, we can wash them and 1000 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 8: dry them and fold them, but we don't iron them. 1001 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 8: But beside besides that, you can get anything that you 1002 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 8: would normally put in your washer and dryer. You save 1003 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 8: yourself the time and aggravation and give it the suid Share. 1004 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: And if there's a problem like a rip or a 1005 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: stain that wasn't there before, what happens then yeah. 1006 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,240 Speaker 8: So it's a dollar propound that includes pick up and delivery, 1007 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 8: and it also includes our famous garment protection plan, so 1008 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 8: if anything is lost or damaged, you're covered. And that's 1009 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 8: the other thing. Another nice thing about dealing with a 1010 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 8: national brand like Sudshare as opposed to your local mom 1011 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 8: and pop fluffing fold as if something happens, we've got 1012 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 8: you covered. 1013 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: And of course, one of the most important questions what 1014 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: about scent preferences. I know a lot of people are 1015 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: fanatical about how their closed smell or they don't want 1016 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: any smell at all, And of course the type of 1017 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: detergent that's used. 1018 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 8: When you place an order, you can enter any special 1019 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 8: instructions you might have and we will follow them. In 1020 00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 8: terms of laundry detergent preferences, you can choose premium, scented, hypoergenic. 1021 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 8: That's for people that have sensitive skin and allergies and 1022 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 8: stuff like that. And then there's a third option also, 1023 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 8: which is provide your own. So if you're really really 1024 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 8: specific about the detergent you want us to use, simply 1025 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 8: include it with your laundry and we'll use it. 1026 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: Finally, I wanted to know what sudshare has learned in 1027 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: the several years it's been operating. 1028 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 8: The most common refrain we hear from people is, oh 1029 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 8: my god, I am never doing laundry again. It's like 1030 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 8: when they think about doing this, there's always some hesitation 1031 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 8: because they've never done it before, and it's a new 1032 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 8: way to deal with laundry and what happens if something 1033 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 8: gets lost, their damage and who's going to be doing 1034 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 8: and it's like all these questions, which of course we 1035 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 8: try to answer, but after people have their first experience, 1036 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 8: there's no more questions. It's just like, oh my gosh, 1037 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 8: this was unbelievable. All I have to do is get 1038 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 8: dressed and I just freed up like two to three 1039 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 8: hours of my week. It's just this magical experience. And 1040 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 8: so what I've learned is just to answer your question, 1041 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 8: what I've learned is that this is a real pain 1042 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 8: point for people, and the relief they experience when they 1043 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 8: realize that all they have to do is tap an 1044 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 8: app and it's done is magical. 1045 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: I also interviewed a sudster as they're called, and he 1046 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: told me he's making about two hundred dollars a week 1047 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: through the app and he's just doing it part time. 1048 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: At first, his friends and family couldn't believe it, but 1049 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: at this point he's actually gotten a few of them 1050 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: to sign up for the gig as well. Once again, 1051 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: the app is called Sudshare if you're looking to make 1052 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: some extra cash or he just wants someone else to 1053 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: do your laundry. Check it out. I've got my KTLA 1054 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: TV segment linked up on my website. Just go to 1055 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: rich on tech dot tv. More of your phone calls 1056 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: at Triple eight Rich one oh one and more rich 1057 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: on Tech show coming up after this. Welcome back to 1058 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you 1059 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: with your calls at Triple eight Rich one O one 1060 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four two four to one zero one. 1061 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 1: Sophia is in Temecula, Sophia, you're on with Rich. How 1062 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: can I help? Y? 1063 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 5: Rich? 1064 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 9: I am wondering if there's any way I can uh 1065 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 9: get internet with that paying sixty two dollars a month 1066 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 9: to my internet provider. I know there's hot spot and 1067 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 9: some other ways you can get it, and I don't 1068 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 9: work from home. I you know, it's just one person 1069 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 9: in my household, and I really don't need too much 1070 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 9: internet access, but I need your opinion. 1071 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: Do you have a smartphone? 1072 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,439 Speaker 4: I do? 1073 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: And do you have Have you ever tried the hotspot 1074 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: feature on there? 1075 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:05,399 Speaker 3: No? 1076 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 8: I have. 1077 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 9: I haven't because I don't know how it works at. 1078 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 1: Who's your internet through on your phone? Who's your cellular provider? Mobile. Okay, 1079 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: I would contact T Mobile if you do. You have 1080 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: an iPhone or Android iPhone? Okay, So iPhone has a 1081 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: system called, uh, you know, a personal hotspot, and if 1082 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: you want, you can activate that and it will give 1083 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: you internet, you know, when you need it through your 1084 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: cellular plan. Now you have to see if that's included 1085 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: on your plan. It may or may not be. And 1086 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: also the amount you get maybe limited. But if you're 1087 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: saying you don't need much, this could work. So uh, 1088 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, it has its limitations. You would have to 1089 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: basically reconnect every time. It's not super convenient. And if 1090 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to do something like stream TV or something 1091 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: like that through another device, you would have to connect 1092 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: that pretty much every time before you want to use it. 1093 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: The pairing process is once, but actually just making sure 1094 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: that it's connected would would probably take a little bit 1095 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: every time, unlike a typical you know, Wi Fi connection 1096 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: that would just always be there. So this one, this 1097 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: one kind of goes in and out. 1098 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 9: I don't watch TV. 1099 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 10: I don't like I said, it's very limited the time 1100 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 10: I spend on internet, you know. But yeah, so you 1101 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 10: you said to our call T Mobile. 1102 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, call T Mobile. See just ask them, say hey, 1103 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: do I have do I have hot Spot on my 1104 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: cellular plan? And if they say yes, say how much 1105 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: do I get? Like what's my monthly allowance? If they say, 1106 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, ten gigs or twenty gigs or fifty gigs, 1107 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: that's probably enough for what you're talking about. The Other 1108 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: thing you can inquire about if you want something that's 1109 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: cheaper than sixty two dollars a month. There's two things 1110 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: I'd recommend first, and we were talking about this a 1111 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. T Mobile has something called T Mobile 1112 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 1: Home Internet and they are advertising pretty inexpensive plans, So 1113 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: that is going to be I believe it starts at 1114 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month, so that's going to be a 1115 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: little bit less than what you're paying. So that's twelve 1116 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: dollars right there. Verizon is advertising their home Internet I 1117 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: believe as low as twenty five dollars a month. So 1118 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: I think that's for customers only. It depends, like if 1119 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: you're a Verizon customer, but that may be something to 1120 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: look into. The Other thing you can do. I don't 1121 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: know what your income is, but there is a program 1122 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: through the FCC called the Affordable Connectivity Program so depending 1123 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: on your household income or also your eligibility for other programs. 1124 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: For instance, if you are on Medicaid or SNAP or SSI, 1125 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: or you get Federal Housing Assistants, or you have a 1126 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: Lifeline phone line, you can apply for this program which 1127 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: gives you a disc count of up to thirty dollars 1128 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: a month off of your internet service. And again this 1129 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: program is called the Affordable Connectivity Program. It's through the FCC, 1130 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: it's relatively new, and it works for your internet service. 1131 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: So if you're paying sixty two dollars a month and 1132 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: you qualify for this program, you can now pay thirty 1133 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: dollars less a month because you'll work with with your 1134 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: internet provider to give you that credit. So again that's 1135 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: called the FCC Affordable Connectivity Program. If you are eligible 1136 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: for there's a lot. There's a long list of eligibility, 1137 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: but the main ones are if you're on SNAP or 1138 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: Medicaid or WICK you do qualify for this program as well, 1139 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: so that's something that's a little bit new. You can 1140 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: go to Affordableconnectivity dot gov to do your application there, 1141 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: but Sophie, I think the hot spot will work. You 1142 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: can also get a mobile hotspot from T Mobile and 1143 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: even get a pay as you go one. But the 1144 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: problem is with that, it's just it's just a little 1145 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: bit like I feel like you don't really need that 1146 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: because you've already have it on your phone, So I 1147 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: don't really think that you need the separate hotspot, especially 1148 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: with how little you are using the internet according to 1149 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: what you're telling me here. So good question, check it 1150 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: out and hopefully one of those solutions works for you. 1151 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Mic in Los Angeles. Mike, 1152 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. 1153 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 11: Hello, Rich, thank you for taking my call. Go Daddy 1154 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,439 Speaker 11: is my web host service provider, my web hooster from 1155 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 11: my business website. It's very simple. They want to charge 1156 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 11: me for Microsoft three sixty five Essentials. Apparently I got 1157 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 11: that first year for free. I already paid for a 1158 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 11: Microsoft Office separately. Do I need that? 1159 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't think. So this is well, do you have 1160 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: an email with them? 1161 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 9: No? 1162 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,479 Speaker 11: I have a separate email that I've been using for years. Okay, 1163 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 11: you click on my website and you get to me, 1164 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 11: but it's not the Microsoft. 1165 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 4: No. 1166 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: So this three sixty five. I know you're calling it essentials. 1167 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It looks like they call it business Basic Online. It 1168 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: gives you like a fifty gigabyte mailbox with a custom 1169 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: email domain, use three sixty five apps for the web, 1170 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: including Outlook, Word Excel, PowerPoint. In one note, you're telling 1171 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: me you already have that, so you really don't need that. 1172 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: Share files with one terabyte of one drive. You don't 1173 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: need that because you already subscribe. How much are you 1174 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: paying for the Microsoft subscription you have? I think, okay, 1175 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: so you're paying how much did you say a year? 1176 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I lost you? 1177 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 4: There? 1178 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 11: A ninety nine dollars a year for the Microsoft Office 1179 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 11: got it? 1180 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Okay? And so that that really includes a lot of 1181 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the same things here. I don't think you need this. 1182 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: I think that you know, did you use any of 1183 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the features through GoDaddy at all? Like that they gave 1184 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: you for this? Oh? 1185 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 4: Okay, not that I know of. 1186 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 11: I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff. But no, 1187 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 11: I don't think I use any of them. 1188 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just get rid of it. I mean, 1189 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: if you're just using the website hosted by GoDaddy, it 1190 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: sounds like this is very separate and this is just 1191 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: an add on that they're trying to get you to 1192 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: pay the You know, how much are they charging you 1193 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: a month for this. 1194 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 11: How much do they want They wanted like seventy something 1195 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 11: dollars for the year. 1196 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the only thing you can consider is 1197 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: you can I would do a comparison to see what 1198 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: you're paying separately and then seeing what this offers and 1199 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: how much this costs. If it's cheaper for the same product, 1200 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: then maybe it might be worth switching over. But that 1201 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: would be a little bit complicated because all of your 1202 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: email and everything that you're using is connected to this 1203 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: other account, so that could be a little bit tricky 1204 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to kind of switch over. So I would say just 1205 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: dump it, and you don't really have to think twice 1206 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: because you're only using GoDaddy for the domain. I mean, 1207 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem here is that you know, 1208 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: someone signs up for the domain, it costs them, you know, 1209 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: twenty thirty bucks for the year. The name of the 1210 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: game is to then upsell those customers to as many 1211 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: other things as possible, and by giving them these free trials, 1212 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, you forget about it, and before you know it, 1213 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: your credit card is charge for the seventy bucks. You're like, now, 1214 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: what's that ah, and you don't feel like calling in, 1215 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and then they get the money and you'll call next year, 1216 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: and it's a whole you know, it's a whole big thing. 1217 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: This happens all the time. 1218 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 12: Okay. 1219 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 11: I was afraid if I didn't renew, people would go 1220 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 11: to my website and not be able to access a 1221 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 11: page or something. I didn't how that worked. 1222 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: As long as this is yeah, as long as this 1223 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: is a separate add on, it should not affect your 1224 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: hosting through GoDaddy. I would confirm to see what you 1225 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: pay for your hosting and if it says, you know, 1226 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: go Daddy hosting. Plus the domain, this sounds like it 1227 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: is a separate product that is not related to your 1228 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: actual website. This is an add on, especially with the 1229 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: with the email and the custom domain for the email address, 1230 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: which you know it sounds like you already have through 1231 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: other your other services. 1232 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 11: Anyway, Yes, great, all right, thank you very much. 1233 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. All right, Mike, good luck with the website. 1234 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in today. All right. Uh, podcasts coming 1235 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: to YouTube music. This was kind of a thing that 1236 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: was missing from YouTube music. According to the Hot Pod Summit, 1237 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,479 Speaker 1: which was the on air fest in Brooklyn, New York, 1238 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: they have confirmed that podcasts are coming to YouTube Music. Now, 1239 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: YouTube Music was my preferred music app for so many years. 1240 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I loved it because they bought a company, oh gosh, 1241 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: I can't even remember the name of it, but they 1242 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: had this one playlist that I loved. It was called 1243 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the Blogged fifty and it was like the fifty hottest 1244 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: songs according to bloggers, and that was the reason why 1245 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I loved YouTube Music. Now I still have a subscription, 1246 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't use it as regularly, but it's one of 1247 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: those things that almost all of the other music apps 1248 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: have podcasts built in, except for YouTube Music. And so 1249 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: now the fact that YouTube Music will be getting podcasts 1250 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I think is a good thing. It'll help more people 1251 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: discover them, it'll help people have them all in one place. 1252 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: They didn't really say when this is going to happen, 1253 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: but the big question is will you be able to 1254 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: listen to the podcast even when your screen is locked, 1255 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 1: And according to what they mentioned at this on AirFest 1256 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, it sounds like you'll be able to. With YouTube. 1257 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: The problem is if you're not a subscriber to YouTube 1258 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and you're listening to a podcast that is uploaded to YouTube, 1259 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: if you lock your screen, you're not going to hear it, 1260 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the audio stops. It doesn't continue in the background unless 1261 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 1: you're a premium subscriber. And so apparently with YouTube Music, 1262 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: you will get to be able to listen to the 1263 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: podcast even with your screen locked, and this is coming 1264 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: very soon in the US only. At this point, YouTube 1265 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: has been kind of tinkering with the idea of podcasts. 1266 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people upload shows like this to YouTube, 1267 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: even if there's no video. They'll just upload the audio 1268 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: and have kind of a waveform or something on there. 1269 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I've even experimented with this because YouTube is just sort 1270 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: of a place where people listen and watch a lot 1271 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: of stuff, and so why not put your podcast up 1272 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: there even though it doesn't have video. So YouTube is 1273 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: kind of warming up to that idea and helping creators 1274 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: have more tools to be able to do that in 1275 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 1: a more native way than right now, which you have 1276 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: to use a third party tool to kind of create 1277 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: we ate that video file that then uploads to YouTube, 1278 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: because you can't just upload the audio file. It doesn't 1279 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: accept that all right, Coming up on the show, We've 1280 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: got more of your calls at Triple eight rich one 1281 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 1282 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,919 Speaker 1: four to one zero one uh. Later in the show, 1283 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to the founder of the Day 1284 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: of Unplugging. This is a day that's coming up next 1285 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: weekend that wants you to give up your smartphone for 1286 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: a single day, twenty four hours. Could you do it? 1287 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: I did it one year. I'll tell you about my thoughts. 1288 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Plus how supermarkets. Yes, the supermarket loves your data. They 1289 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: might be worse than Google when it comes to slurping 1290 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: up all of your data. You're listening to Rich on Tech. 1291 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: More of your calls and tech news after this. Welcome 1292 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: back to Rich on Tech. My name is Rich DeMuro, 1293 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles, hanging 1294 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: out here talking technology, answering your questions at triple eight 1295 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 1: Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 1296 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: four to one zero one. Typically in the show, I 1297 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: tell you what I posted to Instagram that week, but 1298 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: let's see this week, not much. I didn't really post 1299 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: anything this week, so I will tell you. I'm Matt 1300 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: rich on Tech, but most of the time I'm posting stories, 1301 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: so sometimes I'll post actual posts. Vicky is in San Diego. Vicky, 1302 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: You're on with Rich. Hello, Vicky, Hi, Rich Hi, Hi. 1303 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you a question. I have a 1304 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 6: place that's in a remote rural area that I use 1305 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 6: as a seasonal place to go to, and I very 1306 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 6: very rarely go there in the winter time, and I 1307 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 6: was wondering if there's some kind of camera I could 1308 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 6: get because I have animal tracks, and like, I went 1309 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 6: up there last week and then the RV cover blew 1310 01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 6: over and I just wanted to record auditor. So when 1311 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 6: I go out there, I kind of have an idea 1312 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 6: about what happened. But I don't have any Internet service 1313 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 6: out there. 1314 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: So you want a camera that operates without internet like 1315 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: a So most of the security cameras want internet. Do 1316 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: you want to be able to monitor this at all? 1317 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 6: Well, I don't need to have it live like a 1318 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 6: live seat or anything like that. It just for my 1319 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 6: own comfort level to kind of get an idea about 1320 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 6: what happened, or if there's some you know, traffic around 1321 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 6: there that shouldn't be there. 1322 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to think. I know that there's I 1323 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: mean most of the cameras. Do you have internet at 1324 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: all to set up the camera? 1325 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 6: I do? I mean I have a phone I could 1326 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 6: like to try. 1327 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm thinking most of the cameras, like 1328 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the wisecams, the r Low I mean, 1329 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: have you looked at all these to see if they 1330 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: would work with this situation? Have you looked at these brands? 1331 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 6: No? No, no again? 1332 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: So why's w y ze? Wisecam is the one that 1333 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: first comes to mind? 1334 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 12: Now? 1335 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: I know the wysecam has an SD card that can 1336 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: record continuously twenty four to seven. But to set up 1337 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: this camera, you typically need internet. Now, there could be 1338 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: there could be a scenario where you might be able 1339 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 1: to set it up at your home and your WiFi 1340 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 1: and then bring it over there and set and you know, 1341 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: set it down there. But that's I can't guarantee that 1342 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: camera is going to continue working when it's not connected 1343 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: to Wi Fi. It may, it may for a certain 1344 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: amount of time, but I don't know if it would 1345 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: r Low. I know Arlow has at least one model. 1346 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. Uh, it's got an LTE model. 1347 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Would you want a camera that had built in cellular 1348 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: like would that work? Or is there no internet connection? 1349 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Like no cellular connection in that area? 1350 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 6: I have absolutely even like starlink or whatever that's called, 1351 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 6: that's not even out there. 1352 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's really remote, so you're just yes, okay, 1353 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: So I think, honestly, I think the best the best 1354 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: thing to do in this case is probably just go 1355 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: on Amazon and just find have you looked on Amazon 1356 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: for one of these little kind of security cameras that 1357 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: has an SD card? 1358 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 4: No? 1359 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 1: No, okay, So I would I would just search on 1360 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: their security camera SD card and see what comes up. 1361 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,839 Speaker 1: You're basically going to just have a camera that's mounted 1362 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: that is just continuously recording, and that's it. And how 1363 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: many days are you going in between visiting these places? 1364 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 6: It depends maybe once every three weeks. 1365 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, three weeks. 1366 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 6: I mean you're gonna have to so during the winter time. 1367 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 6: In the summer, I go there, you know, once a week. 1368 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Okay. So most of these cameras that are doing the 1369 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: continuous recording, if it's just as a small cheap camera, 1370 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 1: many of them use like a thirty two gigabyte card, 1371 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 1: which is really only going to record several hours of video. 1372 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that you can get you know, 1373 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: three weeks worth of video on one of these little cameras. 1374 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 6: Oh do you know if they if they have some 1375 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 6: that are like sensor activated. 1376 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: Well again, I mean you're getting into you know, these 1377 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: cameras that are a little bit smarter if you're going 1378 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to start doing sensor because then it needs Now do 1379 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: you have a power situation here, like do you have 1380 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 1: power to this camera or is this on battery as well? 1381 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 6: Oh I can, I can get power to it. 1382 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Okay. So I think the bottom line here is you're 1383 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: going to need some sort of camera that is not 1384 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: one of these main brands that like the Why's or 1385 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the r Low. I think it's just going to be 1386 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: sort of a small off brand camera. The other thing, 1387 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you could set up a GoPro and just 1388 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 1: put that on and just let that record. But again, 1389 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how long that's going to record, because 1390 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,480 Speaker 1: you also need something that's probably weather proof I'm guessing. 1391 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 6: Right probably Yeah. 1392 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have a camera off the top of 1393 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 1: my head that's going to fit this solution because it 1394 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: seems like it's a very unique thing. But the things 1395 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: that I would look at is I would check Wise, 1396 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I would check Rlow, Arlo, and then I would also 1397 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: there used to be a brand called Canary. I don't 1398 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: know if they're still around anymore. Oh, yeah they are, 1399 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: but they're okay. But that's going to be a cellular camera, 1400 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: but you may be able to it may work without cellular. 1401 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: If you look up that that's canary c A n 1402 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: A R Y do I S. And there's also there's 1403 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: also another one. There's so many. It's so funny when 1404 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: I go to like c S, I see all these things. 1405 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: There's another one called it's it's not kangaroo, it's can 1406 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: garu k A n g A r o O. And 1407 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 1: that one. What's unique about that is it may not 1408 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 1: capture video per se, but it could capture like little 1409 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 1: clips and things. And they've got a whole bunch of products. 1410 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: They have an indoor outdoor camera as well. That might 1411 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: work for you. So I gave you a lot of options. 1412 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: It just really depends on kind of this a very 1413 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 1: unique situation. So I think that it's just going to 1414 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,680 Speaker 1: be a matter of which one sort of you look 1415 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: at the features, you say, oh that's gonna work. That's 1416 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna work for my situation here. 1417 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 6: All right, Well, you gave me a lot of good information. 1418 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 6: I appreciate it and appreciate your time. 1419 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one may this kangaroo may work. It looks 1420 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: like you know, it may work for you, and it's 1421 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: only sixty bucks, so definitely check that one out. All right, 1422 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,799 Speaker 1: thanks so much for the question, Vicky and San Diego. 1423 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Coming up, we're gonna 1424 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: talk about the day of unplugging. Could you give up 1425 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: your smartphone for twenty four hours? I don't know, rich 1426 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: on Tech coming back at you after this. Welcome back 1427 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology and 1428 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 1: taking your calls at Triple eight. Rich one on one. 1429 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Weird Science one of my favorite movies as a kid. 1430 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: You know, when I was a kid, they played the 1431 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 1: same movies over and over. It's not like today, like 1432 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: last night, where I'm looking through one hundred and fifty 1433 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: streaming options to find something to watch. You just watched 1434 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 1: whatever was on TV at the time. And Weird Science. 1435 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,640 Speaker 1: All these movies were just like on HBO and like 1436 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 1: the cable channels, over and over and over, so you 1437 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: really got to know them too much choice nowadays, that's 1438 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: for sure. All right. Joining me now is Kim Annimberg Cavallo, 1439 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 1: the executive director of the Unplugged Collaborative, and this year, 1440 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: instead of the National Day of Unplugging. It is now 1441 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 1: the Global Day of Unplugging, a day when you are 1442 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: asked to go without your phone for a full twenty 1443 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: four hours. It is happening from sundown Friday, March third 1444 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 1: to sundown Saturday, March fourth. Kim, thanks so much for 1445 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: joining me today. 1446 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Rich for having me. 1447 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Now, we've done stories on KTLA about this, and I 1448 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: believe it was the day the year before last year 1449 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: when I did this challenge and I gave up my phone. 1450 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: I put it in a little bag and I did 1451 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: not use it for a full twenty four hours. It 1452 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: was tough. Do you hear that from folks? 1453 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 6: Oh? 1454 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And the thing about Global Day of Unplugging 1455 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 2: formerly National Day of Unplugging, is that it's really not 1456 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: about doing a full twenty four our digital detoks. Some 1457 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 2: people do that, but a lot of people will just 1458 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 2: take the day to learn about their own habits, to 1459 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 2: reflect on them, to do maybe a one hour, you know, 1460 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 2: meal with friends without devices, walk their dog without their 1461 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 2: phone for the first time. It's really almost like New 1462 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 2: Year's Eve, where you know, we reflect on kind of 1463 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 2: the year before, what were our tech habits and how 1464 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 2: do we want to change them and improve them. 1465 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: It's also kind of observing your own kind of reaction 1466 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: to this situation, Like we just take for granted when 1467 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 1: you leave your house, they say you only go back 1468 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: for a couple of things your keys, your wallet, and 1469 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: your phone. So it's this kind of habit that we've 1470 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: formed where it's an important one, like you do need 1471 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 1: to stay connected and if something ever happened, that's kind 1472 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: of the argument. You got to have your phone. You 1473 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: want to take a picture, you got to have your phone. 1474 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 1: You want to pay for something, got to have your phone. 1475 01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: So tell me the benefits of unplugging from tech anology 1476 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit. 1477 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I mean, if we just get 1478 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 2: to the basics of your physical well being. You know, 1479 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 2: when we're sitting at our computers or hunching over our 1480 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 2: phones many hours in the day, that really takes a 1481 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 2: toll on your spine, your neck, your eyes. So there's that, 1482 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 2: and then there's the mental well being, the sense of 1483 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 2: you know, just being isolated, which seems interesting to most 1484 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 2: of us because technology has given us this great gift 1485 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 2: of being connected twenty four to seven. But if you're 1486 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 2: scrolling on social media or you're incessantly answering texts or emails, 1487 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: you can get a sense of being isolated and lonely. 1488 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 2: And so what we encourage with Global dat I'm plugging 1489 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 2: is really to you know, our mission is to elevate 1490 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 2: human connection over digital engagement, and we want people to 1491 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,639 Speaker 2: come together to really embrace the people around them in person. 1492 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: So what do you do? So tell me some of 1493 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: the things. I know in years past you've had activities planned. 1494 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 1: What can I do? I mean, do I go out 1495 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 1: to dinner with friends? I mean these are things I 1496 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 1: do typically, But do I leave my phone in the car? Yeah? 1497 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean that's always great if you're going to have 1498 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,600 Speaker 2: dinner with friends. One of the fun games that I 1499 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 2: think has been going on for a decade now is 1500 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 2: people put their phones in the middle of the table 1501 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 2: and anyone who touches it first pays for dinner. Oh 1502 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 2: that's always a fun, fun game to play. And you know, 1503 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways, and we actually have the 1504 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 2: idea that it's gone from national and glo to global. 1505 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 2: We have a lot of people in different countries now 1506 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,919 Speaker 2: that are taking this campaign and leading it in their country. 1507 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,719 Speaker 2: So different parts of the world are doing different things, 1508 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 2: and we have an Unplugged Map, so people are putting 1509 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 2: their events on the map, so you can check out 1510 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 2: things that are happening in your city. And if you 1511 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 2: don't see something in your city and you want to 1512 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 2: put something on there, maybe you do a meetup in 1513 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 2: the park and you encourage people to come and take 1514 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 2: a hike, or there's a lot of really fun things. 1515 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 2: We have about two hundred plus ideas of things to 1516 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 2: do on Global Day of Unplugging or any day of 1517 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 2: the year that you'd like to unplug, and so there's 1518 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,440 Speaker 2: a lot of really fun ideas. 1519 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 1: All Right, we're talking to kim Annaberg Cavallo. She is 1520 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,440 Speaker 1: the Unplugged Collaboratives executive director. We're speaking about the Global 1521 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Day of Unplugging, which is happening next weekend Friday March 1522 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 1: third through Saturday March fourth. They're asking you to give 1523 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: up your phone technology for a day or even a 1524 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: couple hours for the day. I'd say go for the 1525 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: whole day. That's what I did, and it was it 1526 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: was a big challenge, but I really felt good afterwards. 1527 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: The website is Unplugcollaborative dot org. So you're you know, 1528 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: you're a tech entrepreneur. I mean, you know, in charge 1529 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 1: of this nonprofit. I assume you have to use your 1530 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: phone a lot. So how do you monitor and kind 1531 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 1: of you know, balance your own tech habits when you're 1532 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 1: dealing with all of this stuff. I'm sure people are 1533 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: emailing you and texting you all day about this. 1534 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the ironic part about this time year. 1535 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 2: The first quarter of every year is really challenging, extra 1536 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 2: challenging for me because there is a lot of in 1537 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 2: bround inquiries and a lot of conversations going on online. 1538 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 2: I just have to be really laser focused on my 1539 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 2: digital wellbeing and you know, keep up the habits of 1540 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 2: For me, it's really important to sleep with my phone 1541 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 2: outside of the bedroom. That doesn't necessarily bother everyone, but 1542 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 2: for me it really does because it's not so much 1543 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 2: about falling asleep, but it's the morning that gets me, 1544 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: because the alarm clock if I use it from my 1545 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 2: phone and then I pick it up and then for 1546 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 2: some reason, you know, an hour later, I've gone all 1547 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,879 Speaker 2: the way through Instagram, I've made deposits and bank accounts. 1548 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm you know, it's just like searching for things to 1549 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 2: do on the phone, and I don't move as quickly 1550 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 2: and don't do all the things that my morning routine, 1551 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 2: which is meditate, do yoga, do the things that'll really 1552 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 2: set me up for a better day. So that's something 1553 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 2: that I had to just be extra cautious about during 1554 01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 2: this time of the year. Yeah, I think that's that's 1555 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 2: what I think is the hardest part about it. And 1556 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 2: when you say, you know, oh, people take you know, 1557 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 2: the twenty four hours, I think the other thing that 1558 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 2: we really are careful about is not shaming people because 1559 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 2: if you do take it and it's hard, that is 1560 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 2: a challenge and it would be illuminating to learn from that. 1561 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,840 Speaker 2: But if for some reason it doesn't work out for 1562 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 2: the full twenty four hours, that's informative too, and it's 1563 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 2: something to talk about. And you know, it's global day 1564 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 2: of I'm Plugging is one day a year because we 1565 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 2: do put a lot of effort into this, but it 1566 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 2: can be any day of the year, and we hope 1567 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 2: that people bring this habit into their daily lives as well. 1568 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 1: And I think learning from your habits is really the 1569 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,559 Speaker 1: most important aspect of this is that, like you said, 1570 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: and everyone can identify with this. You know, you search 1571 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 1: for something to do on your phone. Sometimes I pick 1572 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: up my phone and I kind of forget what I 1573 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 1: even picked it up for. And I think notifications are 1574 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 1: a big part of that. You get one notification and 1575 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: it starts you down this path of Oh, let me 1576 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 1: check my Instagram now, let me check my Twitter now, 1577 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 1: let me check my email now. And these are things 1578 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: that don't necessarily need to be checked incessantly all day long. Now. 1579 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: I remember when I posted about the National Day of 1580 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Unplugging when it was still national instead of global. You know, 1581 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 1: some people were negative about it. They said, Rich, why 1582 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 1: why bother? My phone is my life, My phone is everything. 1583 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. I don't need to do this. 1584 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 1: What do you say to that? 1585 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the idea that we think of a 1586 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 2: kind of like Earth Day, you know, I mean, we 1587 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 2: should all be, you know, thinking about the planet and 1588 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 2: conservation every day of the year. But the idea that 1589 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,639 Speaker 2: we come together one time of year and really put 1590 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 2: our energy and our collective energy, and we get to 1591 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,799 Speaker 2: bring our communities together around that idea is really powerful. 1592 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 2: And it's the same for Global Day of Unplugging. It's 1593 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 2: an opportunity to bring people together around an idea that 1594 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 2: you know, yes, we want to have these habits on 1595 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 2: the daily and even if you don't want to have 1596 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 2: those habits, that's habits, that's okay too. But to elevate 1597 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 2: human connection, I don't know how anybody can argue about 1598 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 2: against that, and we should, you know, think about just ways. 1599 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean, we have people for the last fourteen years, schools, 1600 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 2: religious institutions, companies, other organizations, nonprofit organizations. They really take 1601 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,880 Speaker 2: this opportunity every year to come together in person and 1602 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,919 Speaker 2: do something screen free that will bring a deeper connection 1603 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 2: to each other and have fun. 1604 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is important. Kim Annabercavallo, executive director of 1605 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,599 Speaker 1: the Unplugged Collaborative, Thanks so much for joining me today. 1606 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Rich You're really, you know, help having 1607 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 2: people learn about technology and embrace technology and learn balance. 1608 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,800 Speaker 2: You do such a great job and we so appreciate it. 1609 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And I'll be honest, I'm you know, 1610 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn the balance in my life as well. 1611 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 1: There are times when I feel like I am definitely 1612 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: overdoing it with the screens. It's part of my job. 1613 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I like to disconnect as well, 1614 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: So if you want to do that. Global Day of 1615 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Unplugging twenty twenty three is happening March third through fourth. 1616 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 1: I'll put a link to the website on mind. Just 1617 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 1: go to rich on tech dot tv if you want 1618 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 1: to participate and just do it. Just try it, Just 1619 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 1: try even even half the day. Believe me, it is 1620 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 1: a challenge. You will feel so good and you'll definitely 1621 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: your hands will feel like you're like, what's going on. 1622 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with my hands because 1623 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 1: you're so used to just picking up your phone. All right, 1624 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: more of your phone calls. We're going to close out 1625 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: the show after this triple eight Rich one O one 1626 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1627 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you how supermarkets, Yes, supermarkets are 1628 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: spying on you. You are listening to Rich on Tech. 1629 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Doug is in Torrents. Doug. 1630 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: You're on with Rich Hey. 1631 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 12: Rich Hi is Doug. Yes, I live in a guest 1632 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 12: house on my landlord has given me free direct TV 1633 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 12: for over fifteen years, and I do have a smart TV, 1634 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 12: but I'm looking for a way that I can have 1635 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 12: like a box or something where I can be able 1636 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 12: to stream things and watch like network television, because I 1637 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 12: DVR different shows and things and I'm just kind of 1638 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 12: loss of which thing to go to next. 1639 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Will you have internet even though you're not gonna have 1640 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: the Direct TV? 1641 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 12: Yeah, I already have internet with AT and T because 1642 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 12: I have a landline with my internet. 1643 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the good news is there are many many 1644 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 1: ways to get free streaming. Now you're gonna have to 1645 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 1: put up with ads if you don't want to pay, 1646 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 1: and this is just a star so you can start 1647 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 1: with this and then decide what you want to pay 1648 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 1: for later on. It's been nice to have that Direct TV, 1649 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 1: but at this point, if you're not having that, you 1650 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: can still watch a lot of stuff, in fact, almost 1651 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 1: everything except you know, maybe some of the newest movies 1652 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 1: and things. But the difference is you're gonna have to 1653 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: put up with ads, and you're not gonna be able 1654 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,360 Speaker 1: to DVR stuff unless you're paying. As far as I know, 1655 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 1: there's not really an online DVR that is free. But 1656 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,639 Speaker 1: with that said, I mean the first place to start 1657 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: is a site like or an app called Pluto TV. 1658 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 1: So I'd recommend that you have a whole bunch of 1659 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 1: channels it's owned by Viacoms. You're gonna get a whole 1660 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: bunch of CBS stuff as well. The thing is, you 1661 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,160 Speaker 1: need to get a streaming stick first. You said you 1662 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 1: have a smart TV, but I don't. I'd I'd rather 1663 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 1: you have a streaming stick. I think that either Roku 1664 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 1: or fire TV stick is going to be the best. 1665 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: You can get one for very inexpensive, you know, the 1666 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: fire TV stick maybe thirty five dollars, and then you 1667 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,360 Speaker 1: can start to download these things. Pluto TV's my first stop. 1668 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: I'd install YouTube. YouTube has a ton of stuff. They 1669 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 1: have a ton of free streaming stuff. Live streams is 1670 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: on there, so you can watch a lot of live 1671 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: streaming news through there. To Be to Be, I believe 1672 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 1: is owned by Fox and so to Be you're gonna 1673 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 1: get a lot of the Fox programming and they're gonna 1674 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of stuff to watch for free 1675 01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 1: as well. Then Amazon has something called free V f 1676 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,720 Speaker 1: R E E V E E Amazon Free V and 1677 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,680 Speaker 1: so you're gonna get a whole bunch of the Amazon 1678 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: stuff streaming free through there. You see where I'm going here, 1679 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that you can get. Now 1680 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 1: there's another site or another app called Crackle, and so 1681 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 1: Crackle will have a lot of Hollywood movies, so you 1682 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 1: can get a whole bunch of stuff there. Sometimes you're 1683 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,679 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with ads on there as well. 1684 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 1: And Crackle at one point was I guess it's still 1685 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: owned by Sony. Sony, so Crackle is Sony, so you'll 1686 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: probably get a lot of Sony things there as well. 1687 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: A new one that I talked about on the show 1688 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: last week is called Sling Free Stream. So this is 1689 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 1: Sling TV. They have something called free Stream, which is 1690 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,679 Speaker 1: their free streaming service, and you can just download the app. 1691 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 1: It's the Sling app and you can watch that for 1692 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 1: free as well. And finally there's one called Zoomo x 1693 01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,160 Speaker 1: U m O. This is owned by Comcast, and you 1694 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: can get that and they have a bunch of news 1695 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,719 Speaker 1: programming on there. Now, if you're in the Los Angeles area, 1696 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,760 Speaker 1: you might figure out, well, how do I watch like 1697 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 1: my over the air channels? Many of the over the 1698 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,839 Speaker 1: air channels will be included in some sort of app. 1699 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: But if you want something like KTLA, the channel that 1700 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm on, we have our own app. It's called KTLA Plus, 1701 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 1: and so you can stream the news on there, and 1702 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,439 Speaker 1: I was doing this yesterday and it works just fine, 1703 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: and you can download it. It's totally free. And again, 1704 01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,400 Speaker 1: this is a lot of stuff that I'm giving you. 1705 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily need to download all of these, but 1706 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: this is giving you a wide range of options. Now, 1707 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 1: if you're telling me you want to stream sports, like 1708 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,599 Speaker 1: if you're really into following a certain sport, you may 1709 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 1: have to subscribe to that sports streaming package, and a 1710 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of the major league sports have them. The challenges 1711 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: if you're in a local market, many times the games 1712 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: that are played locally you can't watch. So if it's 1713 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 1: a game that's happening here in Los Angeles, you probably 1714 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: won't be able to watch that. Most of the time, 1715 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 1: you can watch the out of town games, so that 1716 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 1: gets a little bit tricky. Sports definitely gets a little 1717 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 1: tricky when you want free, but any other programming, there's 1718 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 1: really a lot of it. And I mentioned earlier when 1719 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,640 Speaker 1: it comes to things like new movies, you may not 1720 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,679 Speaker 1: be able to access those per se, but I can't 1721 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: even access them unless I pay. So you also mentioned 1722 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 1: some sort of box to get everything for free. I 1723 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 1: know those are out there. I do not recommend them. 1724 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,600 Speaker 1: People call them the black boxes or whatever, but it 1725 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 1: gets you know, all IPTV boxes. I don't recommend those. 1726 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,800 Speaker 1: They're operating in a gray area. They may work, they 1727 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 1: may not. It's not going to be fun. The other 1728 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,640 Speaker 1: thing I like about the Amazon Fire TV stick is 1729 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: that includes a web browser. So anything that you may 1730 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,679 Speaker 1: not be able to access through an app, you can 1731 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 1: just bring up on the web browser and so you 1732 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,960 Speaker 1: can stream pretty much anything that's online, you'll be able 1733 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: to view it through there. So, Doug, that's a great question. 1734 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you have to give up your free direct 1735 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: TV after so many years. Ugh. Free is always the best, 1736 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 1: isn't it. But hopefully I get you some apps that 1737 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 1: you can get started on your streaming journey. All right, 1738 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 1: before we go, let me tell you about the supermarket. 1739 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Can you believe that your supermarket is spying on you? Yes, 1740 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: it is big supermarket companies. They you know that little 1741 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: club card that you scan when you check out, That 1742 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 1: is not to give you coupons and to give you discounts. Yes, 1743 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: that's what it's doing on the surface, But what it's 1744 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 1: really doing is building a very big picture of who 1745 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you are and what you shop for. And what you purchased. 1746 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,080 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why these companies want you to 1747 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 1: sign up. Almost every grocery store at this point, almost 1748 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 1: every store at this point, you go in there and 1749 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,519 Speaker 1: they say, hey, we'll give you, you know, five percent 1750 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,799 Speaker 1: off or ten percent off or you know, a coupon 1751 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: for signing up for our club card. And it used 1752 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,720 Speaker 1: to be fun when these things first came out. It 1753 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: was great, but you had a whole keychain of remember 1754 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 1: your keychain was just filled with like one hundred and 1755 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 1: fifty different club cards. They were all those tiny little 1756 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 1: things and they defined who you were, you know, whether 1757 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 1: you had your you know, whatever company that you like 1758 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,599 Speaker 1: to shop at, well these cards. This is a great article. 1759 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 1: It's from the markup dot org and it says, forget 1760 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 1: milk and egg. Supermarkets are having a fire sale on 1761 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 1: data about you. Now. They focus on Kroger because it's 1762 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 1: one of the biggest grocery companies. But what they say 1763 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: is that when you walk into that store, and this 1764 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: happens with a lot of stores, there are things called 1765 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,840 Speaker 1: bluetooth beacons which record your presence. They ping your phone 1766 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,759 Speaker 1: and that will help you get personalized offers. Your location 1767 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,680 Speaker 1: in the store is tracked. Maybe even your facial recognition 1768 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: data is tracked. Once you use that membership card, all 1769 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 1: that information gets siphoned off into this big data set 1770 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 1: and they know exactly what you purchased, and they can 1771 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 1: help mix that with other data. So they may take 1772 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 1: data that they know about you from other sources, whether 1773 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,760 Speaker 1: it's your credit report or whether it's your marketing databases 1774 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 1: that they've purchased from other companies, and they will mix 1775 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff together to know that you just had 1776 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 1: a kid, you need diapers and baby formula, and they're 1777 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 1: going to send you more ads for that and or 1778 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 1: coupons for that stuff. If you look closely at a 1779 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 1: majority of these postcards you get in the mail from 1780 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 1: big companies, they are printed uniquely for you. I got 1781 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 1: one the other day from a company, and it was 1782 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 1: filled with just the products that I had purchased from 1783 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 1: that retailer. And it looked like the same thing they 1784 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: send to everyone, but no, it was specifically just for me. 1785 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,879 Speaker 1: The Markup says on a website promoting Kroger's data business, 1786 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 1: they have thirty five plus petabytes of customer data and 1787 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,920 Speaker 1: this is data that they say is sixty six percent 1788 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 1: larger than the US Library of Congress's digital collection, which 1789 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,000 Speaker 1: clocked in at twenty one petabytes in twenty twenty two. 1790 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,600 Speaker 1: So a grocery company knows more about Americans than the 1791 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Library of Congress information. Yeah, these companies have a thing 1792 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 1: or two. They know what they're doing. They employ very 1793 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: smart data scientists to get us to spend our hard 1794 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 1: earned cash. If you don't think it's happening to you, 1795 01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 1: it absolutely is. Don't be fooled. All right, thanks so 1796 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: much for listening this week. That is Gonna do It. 1797 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I know we had a couple of technical difficulties this show, 1798 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 1: but thanks for holding on and hanging on and listening 1799 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 1: to my dad jokes at the beginning of the show 1800 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this week. You can find 1801 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 1: me on social media. I am at rich on Tech. 1802 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: I put everything we talked about today on my website, 1803 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,760 Speaker 1: rich on tech dot TV. Don't forget to check out 1804 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 1: my KTLA TV segments. My name is rich Demiro. Thanks 1805 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: so much for listening. There are so many ways you 1806 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 1: can spend a rainy day and your time. I do 1807 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you spending it right here with me. I'll talk 1808 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 1: to you real soon.