WEBVTT - Chicago Crossover w/ Sophia Bush

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Liza Trigger and I'm Kara Klank And every episode

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<v Speaker 3>First episode of the year. It's twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, you know, we're in the time machine, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>still back in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm hoping Christmas hasn't even happened. But I hope

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<v Speaker 2>your new year is good. You know what has happened?

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<v Speaker 2>The Taylor Swift first episodes of the docu series have

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<v Speaker 2>come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I did read about the bonuses. The bonuses were in

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<v Speaker 1>my were coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've watched those two episodes three times fully, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the second one I've watched four times, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably I wish she didn't space them out, but I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why she did, you know. Yeah, And I was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like people were talking about crying and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>why the fuck is everyone crying? Not even two minutes in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was crying, not even Tis. It's like one circle, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like a little team huddle before the concert

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<v Speaker 2>in tears.

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<v Speaker 3>In tears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so good, and I would say my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>parts were Taylor and Florence and the machine rehearsing and

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<v Speaker 2>like that surprise choreo that had to put together in secret,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a few days. And so watching the choreographer

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<v Speaker 2>her name is Mandy Moore, pretty tragic. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>confusing to everyone constantly, but she is so cool. And

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<v Speaker 2>then like her watching like Florence sing and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like being excited by it and their friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Florence goes, you know, Taylor's just my cozy friend.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was lifted up, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, it's Taylor Swift, you know, and I really

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<v Speaker 2>liked that, and I just and then there's a co choreographer,

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<v Speaker 2>like an assistant choreographer who was a dancer for live

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<v Speaker 2>of like concerts and what does award shows and everything

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<v Speaker 2>for decades, but you had to retire, you know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a young person's game. And Taylor was just like Amanda,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're a pop star, Like you're a pop star,

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<v Speaker 2>and brought her back into touring and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to watch a dancers audition tapes and meet

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<v Speaker 2>their moms and watch their moms watch them.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it really is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't wait for more episodes because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to like learn about more of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, that's I love it. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately the crew, like the documentary was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>start in Vienna where the terrorist attack waso and those

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<v Speaker 2>children were stabbed. In Liverpool there was like a tailor

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<v Speaker 2>dance party.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like pretty unfortunate obviously, and like you see

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<v Speaker 2>her talking about it and meeting the families and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty emotional, I would say, but I'm obsessed. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I watched the whole three plus hour concert Lee

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<v Speaker 2>organized my apartment with my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I watched I watched Mariah Carey's Christmas show

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<v Speaker 1>that streamed this past Saturday night, which was like December

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<v Speaker 1>like twelfth or whatever, thirteenth. So it's not weird because

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's January sixth for us right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still pre Christmas in my mind and heart. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we watched Mariah's live stream. She did it on TikTok and.

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<v Speaker 3>Cancer with friends, like did your kids love it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>With my friends because so my friend soph came to

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<v Speaker 1>town because you know, she like mentors I Brady, who

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<v Speaker 1>plays on Yukon batwomen's basketball, which like the best women's

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team. So they were playing USC, so I got

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<v Speaker 1>tickets to go see them, and unfortunately Ice was injured

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<v Speaker 1>and isn't playing right now, but we got to see

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<v Speaker 1>Yukon frankly just like wipe the floor with USC. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they just started so good. It was really crazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>went to the basketball game and then we were like

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<v Speaker 1>drinking before the game.

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<v Speaker 3>We were hanging out with Yukon alums.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like so crazy everybody, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Connecticut, but I don't have one piece of

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<v Speaker 1>clothing that says I'm from Connecticut, you know, like I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>An old Trinity sweatshirt, but it's likely it's a different college.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was, you know, hobnobbing with the Connecticut fans.

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<v Speaker 3>And then while we're in there, I walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Into this bar where all the Connecticut fans are hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out at the very beginning, and my friend goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy over here produced the Santa Claus all the

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus movies, if you're interested, And I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we took a tequila shot. I never take

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<v Speaker 1>shots of tequila, but I was like, for you, Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Then we watched the game and it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like players, like there's this one player, Asy Fudd,

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<v Speaker 1>and like her dad was outside after the at halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>just in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Where my friends were sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody taking pictures of him with him like he was

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<v Speaker 1>a celeb as the dad, which I'm sure like Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift's parents get like insanely mobbed. But yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when we got by the time we got home, we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, we're gonna keep like drinking and hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think we can leave the house.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just watched Mariah and had some cocktails. It

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<v Speaker 3>was fun. Okay, that is really And it was my

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<v Speaker 3>friend Liz to who you know, and Liz and I

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<v Speaker 3>went to Mariah two years ago. It was cute.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it a live Where was she singing, where

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<v Speaker 2>was the market she was in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this where the footage of Rihanna losing her shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Was the time of her life?

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that Rihanna? And we were like, we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, is that Rihanna? And then we were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she just had a baby, but there she was.

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<v Speaker 3>She was loving it. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot like the concert that I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>except I don't think but Rock and Row were not

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<v Speaker 1>in this one, or if they were, they didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>like a private moment.

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<v Speaker 3>If they were, they were just kind of no, we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see them.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like a part when I saw her at

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Bowl. They were like, sec Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different for a live show versus a stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was a full concert. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a full concert.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean in terms of privacy, but the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah on TV, but I just I wonder if that's

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<v Speaker 2>it or yeah, yeah, it's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a little Santa Claus who was like doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Roger Rabbit, Like they hired a Santa who could

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<v Speaker 1>dance like you know, it was cute.

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<v Speaker 3>I was rampis well.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrapped gifts horror, right, Yeah, it's really weird. But

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Collett's in it, Collett and Adam Scott. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually can't figure it out because there's not just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of monsters. It's a lot of monsters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just one. It's pretty wild. Casey, have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen Crampus smiled? What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>What is is? Crampis generally regarded as a good piece

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<v Speaker 1>of cinema.

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<v Speaker 2>It set sixty two percent when I clicked on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I thought it was I thought it was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was a good you know that's like

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a genre onto itself, like the horror Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes movie, And so I had a fun time.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember really enjoying it and laughing and being scared.

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<v Speaker 3>So last year Jared made me watch that horror movie

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<v Speaker 3>that's old. Please tell me the name of it, Casey.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Black Christmas. It's a bunch of girls in their

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<v Speaker 3>dorm rooms.

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<v Speaker 6>Black.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Black Christmas. He knew before you even said it. Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to watch Black Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>Black Christmas is really good and it kind of invented

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<v Speaker 5>the slasher genre.

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<v Speaker 3>So not just a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the cover of the movie is like a woman

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<v Speaker 2>suffocating with a plastic bag on her face.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah the cover. Yeah, I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also the same director as a Christmas Story. Bob

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<v Speaker 5>Clark's done some iconic movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking now that you've mentioned old obviously, Rob Reiner,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? Oh my god, I was out with

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<v Speaker 2>people last night and then the new It was like

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<v Speaker 2>first that, then it's a double, then it's a murder,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's just it's like, I don't know whoror was

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<v Speaker 2>so upsetting, And the reason I thought of it was

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<v Speaker 2>because what a varied career and so many different types

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<v Speaker 2>of movies and like a part of so many people's lives,

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<v Speaker 2>Like like it would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been one thing if he just directed stand By Me,

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<v Speaker 1>but he directed like ten movies that were like important

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<v Speaker 1>to me growing up, like when Harry met Sally, Misery,

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<v Speaker 1>like Princess Bride. Stand By Me is like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies of all time. I mean, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>really deeply fucked up, and I am so beyond disgusted

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<v Speaker 1>how the fucking president of this country responded to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it's just awful, like and I just everybody

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<v Speaker 1>feels really really I feel like shaken by this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like funny, like when I first started dating Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>he would always talk to me about directors of movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, I don't know who directors are,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know a movie, I know who's in it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know who directors are. Like maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>knew a Spielber like, but not even like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know for sure any of that shit until I

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<v Speaker 1>was way older. And now it's like, of course, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a pt Anderson movie, and I know a

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<v Speaker 1>Scorsese and I know this and that, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I always knew who Rob Ryner was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like a director that was like in the

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<v Speaker 1>country also because he was an actor, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really watch him as an actor. I knew him

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a director. So it's just really fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really devastating, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just like, I don't know your kids. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it's not true. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just well, do you want to hear how fucked

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<v Speaker 1>my like SVU brain is. When Jared first told it me,

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<v Speaker 1>he just said, oh my god. He was found with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife murdered or dead with stab wounds, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go where they live? I mean after I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked, and then I said where do they live?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said Brentwood, and I go, God, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like one of his kids or something, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, if he lives in Brentwood and he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a security system and nobody is home, invading

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<v Speaker 1>someone as rich as him in Brentwood in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the holiday season, like they would wait for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be not home or something. And so my brain

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<v Speaker 1>just went through all of the like sbu of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, if there was no forced entry,

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<v Speaker 1>which maybe there was, I hadn't even heard yet. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Jared ten minutes later goes it was his son,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, my mind is

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<v Speaker 1>so fucked from watching true crime and fictionalized crime or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right on top of it. Yeah, but now

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<v Speaker 1>very upsetting. Yeah, but Black Christmas is scary. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those movies that ends with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, don't tell me I want to watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying, you don't get I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>satisfied at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why.

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<v Speaker 1>And the and Jared's like, that's part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I want you know, like I so

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<v Speaker 1>that's all, but I won't say what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also excited because for my friend, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my big Christmas it's I didn't buy new wrapping paper

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not my really my style. But everyone's getting

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<v Speaker 2>a signature wrapping paper. So each person gets thrown, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am, it's just like paper bag when is newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like rich, but I'm kind of into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone gets and then everybody knows what their gifts are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like site right right away. Yeah, I mean, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. So you know me, I get too over excited.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm obsessed with this girl bag Crap and she

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<v Speaker 2>makes she made me like a glitter cheese keychain, but

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<v Speaker 2>she sells and makes bag chains out of vintage toys

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<v Speaker 2>and keychains and little barbies and fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Bag Crap is the name of her like business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, yeah, And she posted an Arthur thing and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like little teeny charms, all the Arthur character

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<v Speaker 2>and even the parents, like it was like fifteen of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I reacted insanely and she goes, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want, I'll let you pick them before I put

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<v Speaker 2>them on sale. You can get first DIBs. So then

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<v Speaker 2>I picked a few. She goes, if you pick more,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give them two for cheaper. I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to. I made a cute little chain of

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur's stuff. I like, was so stressed. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get it in before the sale started. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>successful and great. But I went back today and like,

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<v Speaker 2>all the other ones are still available, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a crazy demand of like people wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>buy Arthur little keychains that I was like craze. I

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<v Speaker 2>was ruining a dinner making everyone helped me decide which

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<v Speaker 2>ones to pick, and like, truly I could have taken

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<v Speaker 2>my time, but I felt special she let me do

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<v Speaker 2>the well.

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<v Speaker 1>It also reminds me of when when Eric Carl was

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<v Speaker 1>dying and you were like, I should buy all this

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Carl stuff, like it's gonna be huge. We have

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<v Speaker 1>our Eric call Hungry Carl hungry caterpillar ornament that you

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<v Speaker 1>gave us on our tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very heavy, so I have to use a paper

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<v Speaker 1>clip to hold it up on the tree, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks very cute, and the kids love that fucking caterpillar.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that caterpillar and a but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just get so like in my head and like everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be fighting for the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's gonna want Binky.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's gonna want Binky, right, and then it's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, like you're at the top. The things that

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<v Speaker 2>I am like so that I think are precious are

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<v Speaker 2>really not seen that way.

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<v Speaker 3>When we were growing up. Was the theme song the

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<v Speaker 3>same as Arthur?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Hey, what a wonderful kind of d I really

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<v Speaker 1>love that theme song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's one of the Marley Brothers. It's like, oh, kids, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Marley. It's ziggy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really freaking catchy. I like sing it walking around

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<v Speaker 1>the house because.

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<v Speaker 3>They watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>They watch Arthur sometimes. But I didn't remember the theme

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<v Speaker 1>song from being younger.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and obviously the deadline of Variety or whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>was did come out that Iced Tea will be in

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<v Speaker 2>the season of Survival of the Thickest.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on set.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not there, but we're all just we all

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<v Speaker 2>got to just hope for the premiere.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to hope for a run in at the premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>We need it, but we have to all send. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened with Garcel, I have no doubt it can

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<v Speaker 1>happen with Ice. I feel like, yeah, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>let's get Michelle on it. Michelle's gotta know she's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have anything else to do that night.

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<v Speaker 3>She should just.

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<v Speaker 2>Work on making it well. We also like this last episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very personal to her, but she was directing it too,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would be fun like she's directing in it,

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<v Speaker 2>like writing it and I am trying to meet Iced Tea.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got a lot of scoop. People were excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Yeah, So I hope, I hope I get

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<v Speaker 2>to Angina Alliance. I mean, we'll see, We'll see what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>but Ice is definitely my goal at this premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday, I was with some of my friends at like

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<v Speaker 1>some friends and kids from school from Rosie School and

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar School.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About concerts for some reason, and somebody was like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of them are are Latinos. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, we should be supporting j Lo's tour. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's her residency in Vegas, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's selling super well, and I go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend is going.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>One person that is supporting and going, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it will be it will be good. But by the

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<v Speaker 1>time this episode comes out, you'll have attended a Backstreet.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys in a j LO.

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<v Speaker 2>The next January episode is going to be five hours long.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're gonna have so much to chat

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up on.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know how the gifts landed. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you received.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what didn't land So my niece

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<v Speaker 2>and nephews, you know famously they don't never give me attention.

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<v Speaker 2>They're never giving me attention, so It'tnica and I decide,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we also Australia. I mean, tragedy everywhere, but

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<v Speaker 2>so Tonica. I text the niece and nephews in a

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<v Speaker 2>group check in a group chat, and I go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>drop your venmo, I'd love to give you some Aunt

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<v Speaker 2>Honica money. No one responded, I'm trying to give money

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<v Speaker 2>to these children. I'm like, what did I do? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>These kids don't need money.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, I I just like, I can't make it

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<v Speaker 2>more clear that I'm trying as hard as I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I also texted them about Benji nothing Benji, none of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I texted them last week too because I found

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<v Speaker 2>out there's five Jewish players in the NHL.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought they would like to know that. Didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they are so deep into their too cool era,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems well, I just I don't know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spiraling. I mean, the youngest I knew was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to grab attention from. But the other two I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you could get something from them.

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<v Speaker 2>Money, guys, drop your venmo, That's what I wrote. I mean, whatever, insane, insane.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had an aunt that was just like yo,

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<v Speaker 1>money coming your way, I feel like, here's my venmo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come to you. I'm fine to Florida. Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>No, these kids are well taken care of, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and they need nothing from insanity from their aunt. You

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<v Speaker 2>know how I've been non stop talking about Natalie Palomides's show,

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<v Speaker 2>right like yeah, stop, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I loved it. I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure everyone got to go that wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also that day is when I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>the dayzor on one and so, and then I met

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<v Speaker 2>up with Jared Goldstein that night. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I mentioned it on this podcast or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've been telling him and everyone to go see this.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a text from him, going, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see Natalie Palomida's show Wednesday, December seventeenth at eight

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<v Speaker 2>Cherry Lane. Tickets are one seventy. I hear it's a

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<v Speaker 2>life changing show.

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<v Speaker 3>Who said that to you? Jared Goldstein? In all caps?

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote, I've seen it and been telling you multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times to see it. I'm the one who told you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you think you heard it from? It was

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<v Speaker 2>me learned to listen to women. And then I sent

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<v Speaker 2>him the copy of the ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>But like.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him after I saw it, I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it NonStop. I go, if you're back, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get it, inviting me to go see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, hilarious, this happened. Never living that down. No, he

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<v Speaker 3>does this.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll bring something up to him like I told you this,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you. I can't even believe this, or I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh did you know this?

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<v Speaker 3>I go I said it. I said it eight minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I said it, I said it, but that one I

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<v Speaker 3>was my favorite. I'm like, I literally you mean what.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said two seconds ago, my suggestion from five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, Like yeah, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not quiet. Neither of us are mumbling. No,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us are.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking so much people have to like put some

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<v Speaker 3>of it out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're picking and choosing when to tune and into now,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're missing some things they're missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also going to say, I'm also going to

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<v Speaker 1>the I'm going to be near the I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>you because I'm going to be near the comedy store tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the Mariah Carey pop up bar. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you can't get enough. You can't get enough.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend, my friend got tickets and was like, do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to go to this?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, you know, I like going

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<v Speaker 1>to Wee how it feels like I'm visiting my old

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<v Speaker 1>like the old country for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I hate the new vander Pump, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not get bad. I haven't even attempted.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about these people. I don't care. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The preview really had me like I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>We really had something special and Lala and Sheena had

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<v Speaker 2>to ruin it by trying to be team Tom Sandoval

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 2>instead of doing a girl power season. And that's that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we could have continued having something lovely. Wait, Kara, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell me about Arden's party, her famous holiday

0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 2>birthday part, famous holiday birth the one time I was

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 2>there with you. We danced with Rebecca Romain and Jerry

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 2>o'connells and lands Bad. I mean it's a star sunded party. Yeah,

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 2>tell me what I've what I missed this year. Rebecca

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<v Speaker 2>Romaine was back great. I think she was with a child,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was with one of the kids because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like older now, they're like like not a child,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like older teens, you know. And uh, who else

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<v Speaker 1>did I see?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I met Billy Lee from at her pump. Okay, exciting, Yes,

0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that was exciting. She show me about her stand up journey.

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And then she has really good skin. I feel she did, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she did. She had like her makeup looked really really

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<v Speaker 1>good and she looked and she looks great. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I suburb Chreischer and his wife and I saw some

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<v Speaker 1>people on the dance floor that I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I now I'm like blanking. I met this actress

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.200
<v Speaker 1>from that show Children's Hospital, very pretty. She's done a

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of comedy stuff with people, but I'm like fully

0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 1>blanking on her name. I talked to her for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and then I was talking to Brian Safie

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<v Speaker 1>and Bridger.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I love when I get to that party.

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I admittedly get into a corner with like three gay

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>men and I don't leave for the first hour. And

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Jared is always like, I guess I'll just go find

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 1>someone to talk to, like he just has other friends there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I honestly missed some people I knew

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>were at the party because I was just in my little,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cloud of shit talk with my friends for

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes and for a little more than a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, and then yeah, I got on the dance

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<v Speaker 1>for At one point I'm like, who else did I see?

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of characters.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, okay, I I did ask Kat for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. Oh my gosh, Yeah, I was the monologue

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<v Speaker 2>so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I did the monologue a la years ago and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was fun, but it wasn't doing it in

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<v Speaker 1>New York doing the monologue.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it different? It's just different.

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<v Speaker 2>Laughing so hard tears, my makeup guts ruined for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the night. I was laughing so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother Colin used to like get in line up

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<v Speaker 1>one pm on a Sunday, No to go to like

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<v Speaker 1>the ten o'clock, and he would be like, in line

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<v Speaker 1>in time to go to the eight o'clock and be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the ten o'clock's better, Like he would want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the later one.

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<v Speaker 3>He would always go to the w.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was like back in the day when it

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<v Speaker 1>was at Chelsea, maybe there was like a seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a nine, and he would always go to the later one,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I was like, you could go to the

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<v Speaker 1>early and He's like they would play cards, get food,

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<v Speaker 1>chit chat, smoke SIGs. I guess, just chill so that

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<v Speaker 1>they could go. It was like a cultural thing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went a couple of times and was like

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<v Speaker 1>the improv is so good and there would always be

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<v Speaker 1>like a celebrity there doing a monologue or somebody really great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I did the monologue one time at UCB Sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just really not the same vibe as getting to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in New York. So that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was so fucking funny. I knew a couple of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but most people were fully new to me. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just fun because it's based on your own true stories. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're you're not getting g roasted, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't and that the chair is really comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like it was a great start to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>What suggestion might did somebody give you?

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<v Speaker 2>So the first suggestion two people one yelled out souvenir

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and one person yelled out school. So died two quick stories,

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<v Speaker 2>one of for each. The second one was, those.

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<v Speaker 1>Are good suggestions for you because I feel you're a

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<v Speaker 1>big souvenir queen and you have a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>school stories.

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<v Speaker 2>The second one was haircut, which is crazy because I

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<v Speaker 2>was a salum receptionist.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I went through my career.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the third I didn't like it, like I

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<v Speaker 2>made I made people.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't want that. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally someone said wedding and I went out, okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I did that. So those are my three that

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<v Speaker 2>I got today. But yeah, if people want to laugh,

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<v Speaker 2>you should definitely go to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I really really fun, really good good.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me also, you know, I just don't watch

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<v Speaker 2>improv ever. No, it was also like truly seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>and being like, oh my god, this is so good,

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<v Speaker 2>like I forget the best in PA, Like they're so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, they're good, and they're relaxed because if

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<v Speaker 1>you've made it to askat then you're like the best

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<v Speaker 1>that you see be has and so you're not like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna make it on a team?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I good?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like you're just not you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like watching somebody who's been doing stand up for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, like they're not really worried about getting

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<v Speaker 1>Montreal anymore. You know, they're just like Lucy Goosey and

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<v Speaker 1>having a good time and that's why they're that's they're

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<v Speaker 1>the fun want.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like patient, Like no one you could tell their

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<v Speaker 2>release seasons, like you said, because no one was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be the person. No one was like yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fight the rhythm. Everyone was just like really fluid

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<v Speaker 2>in and out. Quts.

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<v Speaker 3>It was cool. It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Where was it was it at the new where's the

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<v Speaker 1>new UCB in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>New UCB is on Fourteenth Street between second and third.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great, yeah, yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know exactly. That's so close to you too,

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<v Speaker 1>and amazing it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to walk and then oh I did open

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<v Speaker 2>for someone at Grammar's cy Theater and it was really

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<v Speaker 2>fun and I got to meet everyone that works there

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<v Speaker 2>because I will be there February twenty first, Hello, Fab

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Get those tickets. I like that I got to be

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<v Speaker 3>there before just to get the lay of the land. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But go to That's messed up live for Lisa's tour dates.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also still get merch. I know it's after

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the holiday, but you can still get our Lowis Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have some new merch too that we have

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<v Speaker 1>ideas for the new year that we're gonna drop soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, stay tuned, we have some exciting stuff coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this year here at That's messed Up Headquarters.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm on the road. I'm on the road. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Website hopefully coming soon. I mean yeah, lawyers are hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the lawyer has to go over the servicing contract

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, get me the website.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand, Like I don't want this, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>As the website is done, it will be linked it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's messed up live. So whatever it says for Lisa's website,

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<v Speaker 1>go to that for now, and then when the website's ready,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll go to that, right yea, the punch ups, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell me mine is ready.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the punch ups ready, but okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So on my way to soul Cycle on Saturday, on

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Taylor'slip's birthday, I see there's a dog adoption on the

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>street corner. There's a dog named Benson, Like like, so

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>look at that little doggie. So I go to soul

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<v Speaker 2>Cycle and on my way, I'm like, I'm gonna go visit

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the dog. I like, fucking I need to see Benson.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I also post about it. I'm like, someone

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<v Speaker 2>adopt Benson. Then I walk over there Benson's been adopted,

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<v Speaker 2>so like immediately, the next story eight minutes later is

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<v Speaker 2>just like, Benson's adopted. And my friend Lane just made

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<v Speaker 2>fun of me. He's like, I like that, you were like,

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<v Speaker 2>someone adopt this dog. Problem solved like immediately, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really hard. I really wanted Jerry and Rally too.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Jerry, Look at Jerry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, they're all so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, guys, I donated some money and kept it moving.

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<v Speaker 3>I maybe twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty six is the year that you, one of you

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<v Speaker 1>Tommies can bring a dog into your life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought you met me.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, well, I just don't think you can with

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<v Speaker 1>all of your roads stuff. But I think one day

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<v Speaker 1>a dog will be in your life. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lot right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like landing and having to take a dog

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<v Speaker 2>to poop. I mean it's the pooping. Besides the pooping.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they would be one day take them

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<v Speaker 2>out in the freezing cold. I would have a late

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<v Speaker 2>night girl like I wouldn't. My dog wouldn't wake up early.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know how dogs work. Is that how

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<v Speaker 1>they work? Can you just tell you bond with the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog is gonna do what I want to do eventually?

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<v Speaker 1>Now is that wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Casey's like, ah.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people that post on Instagram and like, look

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<v Speaker 2>at my dog here at Because if I keep this

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>dog up till three in the morning, what they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>want to be out at six am.

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<v Speaker 3>No way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, they're gonna need their sleep. But and

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the dog's gonna be out with me. Like the dog

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be doing Spot Yeah that, but dog's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have his own tel Far yeaeah to be like a

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>little ride along tell Far.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an awesome episode to kick off the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this episode is hot huge.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We are doing Chicago Crossover Season sixty, episode seven. This

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<v Speaker 1>is This episode comes out around twenty fourteen, follow twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a big It's like one of these big,

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>annoying crossover events.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 3>It's only annoying if you don't watch the other shows.

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a second of Chicago Fire, but I

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>have dabbled in PD a little bit here and there

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>for the crossovers.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 2>The bar that they shoot at, that's where I used

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>to go every Tuesday for an open mic that Mike Joyce.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of that's the yeah, because I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when they started filming Chicago Fire and they would change

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the bar and we'd be like, oh my god, like

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>we were excitedly, you know, I would go.

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<v Speaker 3>We're excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I didn't realize that Chicago Fire started before

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>PD because this I do, but it's only because it's

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>like a season before. Yeah, so if you're interested, this

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<v Speaker 1>starts with episode Nobody Touches Anything, Season three, episode seven

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of Chicago Fire.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Then we do this episode and then it ends.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Up with a Chicago PD episode called They'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>Go Through Me Season two, episode seven, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>give you the full synopsis of what they find before

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>what they find after these the SPU episode in case

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do all that. So yeah, all

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>three of these episode aired on November twelve, twenty fourteen.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>So Dick Wolf just wanted everyone seated and firing money

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>into his bank account for three straight hours, Like just

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>keep your channel trained on NBC and you just watch

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>them all three together. And I guess that's like what

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>they want to happen in the old model of TV.

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And now it's like they'll do these crossovers and it's like, well,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>if you do a crossover with OC, not everyone has Peacock,

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like they're not putting OC

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like on linear anymore, so you better do a really

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>really in depth what like previously on or whatever you know,

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>recap at the beginning. So a little background in the

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Fire episode. The whole Chicago Fire Department gang is

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>at a routine apartment fire when they come upon a

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>box of photo and they're a wholesome family vacation to Disney,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 1>just kidding. They're very disturbing photos that involve young children, obviously,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>so they call Chicago PD where scratchy voice voight you

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>know the guy who's the head it dogs like this.

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>He works with Sophia Bush aka Aaron Lindsay, who we've

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>seen in the episode Comic Perversion. Now Lindsey goes through

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>all the picks and she notices somebody that she knows

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>in the pictures, and then they link the photos to

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a database of missing kids in New York City, and

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously they come barking up Olivia Benson's tree, and that's

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>where we are at the beginning of this as FU episode.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So the episode opens with Benson pushing the best Noah

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>baby Noah on the swings at the playground with Amorrow,

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they look like a little family. It's

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of cute, and then you know, rfk's voice twin

0:30:55.720 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>blows up her cell, and he's like, like a apparently

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>these Chicago PD folks are en route to New York.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And she tells him that she sent the picks to

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Nick Mick and that's the National Center for Missing and

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Exploited Children, who linked them to a pedophile ring that's

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>been sex trafficking kids for a decade. And he's like

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a decade, how come you haven't caught them or whatever?

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I'm gonna brief Lindsay in Halstead when

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they get here, So he lets Olivia know this is

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>personal for Lindsay. One of the victims is her half brother,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and so that's who she's that's the picture she saw.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Benson is like, duh, I already know that. I know everything.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>So they hang up and she explains the situation to

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Nick and then she tells Noah, five more pushes. He's

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>way too young to know how many pushes that is,

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's smiling, he's happy. Nick is taking a video

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>on his phone. They're like a cute little fam at

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the park. And now we're at the precinct. Amarro is

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>asking Finn, hey is Halstead the guy who hit on

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Rawins in Chicago? And Finn goes nas some other pretty boy,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and who they're actually referencing is Adam Ruzek, who is

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>on Chicago PD And this this flirtation happened in the

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>episode Conventions on Chicago p D.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 3>But that guy's never been on SVU.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>So if you're an sv person and you're not listening

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, you have no idea what they're even

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking talking about. Live introduces everyone in in her office,

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>like this is Aaron Lindsay that's played by Sophia Bush

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jay Halstead, And he's played by Jesse Lee Sofer,

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>who was on Chicago p D for eight years.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 3>The actor.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>He was on Chicago p D for eight years and

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>then moved over to FBI International. And he also plays

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Brady in the Brady Bunch movies, which I love

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>me too. I really love the like the Shelley Long

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Brady Bunch movies.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 3>And I'm really excited that he And.

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Wait, isn't the guy from VEEP the dad the dad

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in the Brady Bunch movies. It's the guy from v Yeah,

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>but Gary Cole, Gary Cole, yes, yeah, SVO is an SVU, right, yeah.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And I love him well. I love Pineapple Express. I

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>actually don't watch it enough. I really remember laughing so

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>much at that movie. I haven't seen that in a

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>while either. Yeah, I think I remember liking him.

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Rollins runs into a meeting late with clearly like a

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>made up lie about getting stuck in the tunnel because

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>she can't say it like all in the one clear sentence,

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and we can tell by Benson's face that she's kind

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of like clocking the lateness and the excuse. But do

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they ever mention the reason why. They certainly don't. We

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>never get back to that. That got edited out, so

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they explained. Listen, Chicago Fire Department found this box of

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>photos at the apartment of Andrew Llewellyn, and one of

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the victims is a guy named Teddy Courtney, and he's

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay's half brother who ran away ten years ago. And

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>her mom, she doesn't say how she knows this, but

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>my mom knows he came to New York City.

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>That's actually to begin with.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch Chicago PD really, but we all know

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Lindsay had like kind of a struggling childhood, bad

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>bad parent parental situation, got into some bad shit, maybe

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>like drug sales or whatever, and then Voight took her

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>under his wing and that's how she becomes a cop

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and she's a detective over in Chicago.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because if you guys are our listeners of

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>this pod, you've watched day Dream Believer, which she was in. Yeah,

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>it's the Nadia episode. So we've definitely done some Sofia

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Bush episodes.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, but that's a little bit about Aaron Lindsay's background. Yeah,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>she's you know, she came from you know, tough beginnings,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and so that's why it's like possible that you have

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a half brother that would have just like disappeared that

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:46.959
<v Speaker 1>you can't that you haven't heard from in ten years.

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Nick Mick ran his face, uh, and they found more

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>images of him, and they this pedophilia ring. Slash Club

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>is still active and they've upgraded to live streaming since

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Teddy's childhood days. They want to ask Teddy some questions

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and Tomorrow, who's never read a room in his entire life,

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>goes assuming he's alive, right in front of his damn sister,

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and then everybody's like, dog.

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck is wrong with you?

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>He half apologizes, and then what he's in the middle

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>of apologizing lives like, shut the fuck up. So now

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna search all the systems for Teddy. Let's run

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>an age progression, let's do mugshots. They're gonna need Lindsay's DNA, etc.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna find this guy. Next, we're watching, Oh my god,

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we're watching an awful video of a teen boy begging

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to be let go.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>His name is Henry.

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>The purpose off camera and he he goes, if you

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>keep crying, I'm gonna have to gag you. I mean,

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>he's creepy. Like all the guys we've seen in any

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of these videos that we've seen on the show, is

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like they're always off camera talking in a very calm

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>voice while a child is like hysterical. And this kid,

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>this actor is very good. He's like really really fucking

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>me up. He's crying, he's chained to a bed, he

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>looks terrified. The guy's telling him, oh, got a special

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>request from one of our members. So this is super fucked.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>We're all we're seeing this video and then we pull out.

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>We're watching the video with Special Agent O'Connell from the FBI,

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 1>who we've also seen in the episode Friending Emily from

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>season fourteen. The Megan Fahey episode Downloaded Child in season fifteen,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he's this guy who's a special agent who works like

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>specifically on these trafficking rings and like see Sam that's

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. And you know, I think we saw

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>him in Downloaded Child being just like yeah, you just

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it's whack them all. You're never gonna get them all.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You just keep putting one away, and there's more. It's

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>like horrible, you know, he's like you can see this

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>guy has no life left in his eyes, but he's

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting there watching this.

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 2>The actor's name is Frank dial Well. I think he's

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a manifest guy.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, And he played an ada named Don Newvine

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 1>in the first season of SVU. Then in the second

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>season he's a defense attorney named Don Newvine. So he's

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>just an ADA that switched to defense attorn, which we've

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>seen before. I mean, that's like happened to Barba. But

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>in season two he defends the pedophile in Countdown and

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy in Scourge who has untreated syphilis and becomes

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the night Ripper where he just starts killing a bunch

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of people's Karen Allen's husband. So it's like a wild

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>career move for this man to go from like prosecuting

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>pedophiles to being like, actually, this guy from Countdown might.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Not be so bad.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>The guy who like does children's birthday party. Anyway, I

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's who he's defending in it. But I looked

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>at he kind.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Of looks like Matt Walsh from Veep. He does, yeah,

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>he does. He absolutely does, like a little older. But

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 2>I remember his manifest era. Yeah, oh my god.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 3>He says he's an escape at dan Mora.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh I okay, So anyway, this guy had a wild

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>move and now like whatever, but he's played a bunch

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of different characters and now he's this special agent O'Connell

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>from the FBI, I guess. And he tells them the

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Chicago shots linked to this pedophile ring which calls itself

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the Chess and Checkers Club, And I was wondering why

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>they kept calling it a club. I was like, guys,

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>this isn't like fun, this isn't like poker. Why we

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>keep calling it a club? And it's because they call

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>themselves a club. And that's the first time I've seen

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a pedophile ring really call themselves a club.

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Make it seem like it's a fun, little social event.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>The club members are watching from all over the world,

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>paying through encrypted links, and the video just keeps getting worse.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>The kids sounds more and more terrified, and so far

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the FBI has not been able to shut the shit down,

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and lives like, well, if they won't, then we will.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And I just think it's it's noble. I love her tenacity,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, how do you have the same resources

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>as the FBI in terms of tech. You've got terru

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, There's no way you can

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>shut down. But you know, she says what she wants

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to do, and she does get to the bottom of things.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So we hear the kids saying I want to go

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>home as we go to credits, it's dark as hell.

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So now top of act one, at the precinct, the

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Chicago hotties are getting some coffee. Rollin's busts in on

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>their heart to heart and is like, like, let's go home, huh,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Like why don't we call it a night. I've got

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>some illegal gambling to attend to, Like, let's just get

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>out of here, like Gambler's Fallacy was this season before

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>where she gets busted. So it makes me feel like

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>she's relapsed or something. I don't really know where we

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>are in the in season sixteen with this in her

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>gambling journey, but she's acting weird, like.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 3>She's going up to these two cops from Chicago, going,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 3>we'll just call it a night.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I know your brother is like missing and like in

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>this pedalphile ring, but should we just I don't know,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to just go to bed, And Paul

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>said is like, oh, I'm waiting on the New Jersey database.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go check on that. So it leaves Rollins

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>with Lindsay checks in with her. They're like establishing a

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>little friendship between the two of them throughout this arc.

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Who says like it could easily be me and Teddy's place,

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like I had a tough childhood and and Rollins is like, yeah,

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I have a sister I haven't talked to in two years.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it's you know, complicated family. Shit is right up

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>my is in my wheelhouse. So I get it, and

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Finn gets a hit from an age progressed photo of

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Teddy which looks like he was arrested for solicitation five

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>years ago under the name Ted Voight, which I of

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>course immediately clock as the guy who's the bensons, Yeah,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could watch the show because

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of his voice.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 3>It's two groups gravelly.

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't real it's so gravelly it would drive me crazy.

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like I can't listen to RFK talk for that long.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's a medical condition and I shouldn't

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 1>be making fun of it, but he's a fucking nightmare.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm gonna just go ahead and keep

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>doing it.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Does something as a medical condition doesn't mean it can't

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 2>negatively impact me.

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't like the way it sounds in my ears.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Hall said picks up on the Voight and is like,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>what's up, and Lindsay goes, yeah, Teddy and Voight used

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to know each other, and she confirms, yeah, that is

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>my brother, like in this mugshot, and yeah. She wants

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to go talk to the people at the youth center

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>where he was last released, and Amaro's like, why don't

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you let us take the first meeting because like he's

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>actually probably right, like the sister barging in there is

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>probably not the way to go professionally at the beginning.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>So now they're at West Way Youth Center and the

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>woman working there says Teddy's a repeat customer. They have

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a good track record with kids with some kids, but

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>then there's kids like Teddy. And she says, you know,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he got sent here twice. He ran away both times.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Both times he was here less than a week. Amara

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>tries to guilt this woman about like don't you have security?

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Why do you let them out? And she's like, we

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>keep the streets out, not our residents in. This isn't

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to prison, which makes sense, and I get that, and

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that is how most group homes work.

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 3>They're not in lockdown, you know.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>She asks George the security guard, if he remembers Teddy,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and he says he doesn't. Flag that for follow up,

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about random security guard named George for

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 1>no fucking reason. All the kids are damaged and some are,

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>some more than others she's talking about. And they're like,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>any idea who he might be with, like who he

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe stayed in touch with, And she goes, well, the

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>last time he was here, he seemed to know this

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>other girl named jocelynster Pass. She's one of our success stories.

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>So they go talk to Jocelyn as she's leaving school.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't really want to talk to Rollins or Hallstead,

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that's who that's who it is. It's Rowlins and it's

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>boy Chicago Hallstead. She walks, she keeps walking. They follow her.

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, I'm doing great. I'm going to graduate

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>high school. I'm gon go to college. And they're like, well,

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>how do you know Teddy? And she's like from the

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>life and she's like, you guys have looked up my record, right,

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And then when they they like they're like, yeah, we

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of know about your past. She seems embarrassed and angry,

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, you're not talking to a fourteen

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>year old prostitute. You're talking to someone who's going to

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>be a teacher. So you know, she doesn't want people

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to look at her through that lens of like her past.

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>So Rollins promises that they're not judging. She's like, you

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>clearly haven't talked to SVU. Like, babe, we are not judging.

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>We just want to find Teddy and she goes, well,

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>last I heard he was working the Peers. So Lindsay

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>goes to Benson's office and she's stoked about this lead

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, let's go now, and Benson's like, honey,

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>we have to wait until it's dark for anything to

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>start turning up at the peers. Okay, like we're not

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>going to just turn off now, and but you know,

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>there's no one there in the daytime. Lindsay realizes that

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>the peers are where the are where people go after

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the pedophiles are done with them, like where they get

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of tossed out, and she tells Lindsay, Yeah, it's

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like a pretty rough scene and we're not sure Teddy's there.

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay feels guilty that she waited this long to find Teddy.

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>She says she was ted fifteen when he disappeared, but

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that would have made her twenty five years old as

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 1>a detective, which I think is like not possible while

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>she lived with her mentor Yeah, but I also looked

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>up her age on the Wikipedia for Chicago PD, and

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 1>she would be she'd be twenty nine at this time,

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So the timing is a little off for how long

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Teddy's been gone, et cetera, et cetera, or how old

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>she was.

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Whoah, you really caught that weight. I really are saying

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that this this is a blip.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>And on the official Chicago PD info she's twenty nine

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 2>at this time or she would have.

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Been, yes, because they have her birthday, and I'm assuming

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the diehards who edit the Wikipedia for Chicago Beaty know

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>when her birthday is, you know, yeah, and so like

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>her birthday is like at eight, like in eighty seven,

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I think. And so at this time, she's twenty nine,

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>not whatever, not twenty five. And also even living with

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>your mentor, I think it's hard to go through the

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.760
<v Speaker 1>police academy and get all the way up to fucking

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>detect him by twenty five.

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Twenty nine makes a lot more sense. It's still pretty young.

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But you got him, Yeah, I got you, guys, I

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>got you good. She was fifteen when he disappeared, and

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Benson's like, what could you have done? Like, you couldn't

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>have done anything. You didn't know where he was. You

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>were fifteen years old. And I think she feels bad.

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>She hasn't tried to find him since she's been a

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>cop or whatever. So now they're at the West Village

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Piers and it's party time. Music is playing, people are dancing,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they're laughing, they're waiting for customers. You know, everyone seems

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>like they're having a pretty nice time, even though I

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>know there's a lot of trauma involved, Hall said, and

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Rawlins roll up and he's like, oh, this is like

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Boystown in Chicago, and he goes, yeah, it's kind of

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>like your wild West, and she goes yeah, except there's

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like five million dollar condos across the street.

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 3>But you know, these kids have nowhere else to go.

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So Rollins flashes a flashlight at these two ladies and

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>one goes, hey, Risolian Isles, turn that off.

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 3>And I was obsessed with that light. Yeah, so good.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a reference to Rossolian Isles is in Angie Harmon,

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 1>who's another law and ordered dejective, so it's kind of

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a law and order lawyer.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of connected.

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But also Rosolian Isiles are two women, so it is

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>funny that she's just like saying that to this man

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>who's searching for her for flashing a flashlight in her face,

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's rollin'son Hall set at this point, and uh,

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they show a picture of Teddy to her, this funny lady,

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, he's cute. If you find him,

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>let me know. And then Finn and Tomorrow are out

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>looking as well, and they're showing a John. They're showing

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a John the picture and he clearly like has someone

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in the car, and he goes, sorry, not I type,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Finn.

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Goes, zip it up, buddy. They just move on.

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I love how when they're like we're not with Dea

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.479
<v Speaker 1>or we don't care if you have drugs, they really

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>mean it. They do not care that you're literally getting

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>solicited right now. They're just like, we're looking for this

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.959
<v Speaker 1>one guy I on the prize. It's all soake, it's

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>all fake.

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So then Amaro goes up to this woman in a

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>car and goes she hops out, and she goes, oh,

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.439
<v Speaker 1>that's little Teddy. I haven't seen him in a while,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 1>but he parties really hard. So back to Hal said,

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and Rawlins at the piers and they roll up on

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys who are kind of like maybe canoodling.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Who know, they might just be friends. Who knows.

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>One is in a mesh tank top, the other one's

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>in a leather jacket. They tell leather jackets to scram.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Mesh tank top turns around, he looks a little fucked up.

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>He's offering to party with Rollins, and Hall said, being like,

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, guys want to do a threesome?

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I can be the bread.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I can be the meat or the spread like he's

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>really he seems Andra and he this is little Teddy.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 3>And I guess.

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know how they clocked this guy at all.

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 1>He looks nothing like the photo recognition or the young

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>kid photos. He has a full beard now, which also

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>changes someone's look, but they clock him, They're like, this

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>is Teddy. He is played by lou Taylor Pucci, who

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>works a lot.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:20.399
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He broke out in the movie Thumbsucker, which I've never seen,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and Casey's nodding because he's our movie library.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 3>And he was recently in the show of Physical.

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>He was like a regular I think on Physical and

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 1>then he's in Daredevil Colon Born again.

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>So well.

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>He was in one episode of Girls and it says,

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 2>but I don't remember it, so I might actually rewatch

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>the episode tonight.

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, because that.

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Guy is yeah, because I love Girls, and I really well.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 3>He also looks so.

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Different from this bearded character like his IMDb photo. He's

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>a young fresh face.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Google him, and every picture of him looks different like

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 1>pictures of him when he was in Thumbsto.

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Looks so different.

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean like obviously everybody grows up, but he looks

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>very different in all his photos, and the way he

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>looks now is like also very like sort of like chisel,

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>blondie surfer boy kind of. But h he's got a

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>good chameleon quality to him. That's good for an actor

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to have. So they bring Teddy into the precinct and

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he and Lindsay see each other for the first time,

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and they stare at each other and she goes, hey, Teddy,

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, I'm not Teddy anymore. Fade to commercial drama.

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 1>So now he's sitting in the bullpen and he like

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 1>scoffs at Lindsay. He's like, they let you be a cop?

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Does she know what you were before? And then Olivia

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>tries to interject and he goes, I wasn't talking to you,

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Mama bear, and I'm he must be high to talk

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to Olivia Benson like this, like you gotta be on

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>something to think that you're just gonna And I will say,

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this is like the hair air off for Olivia Benson

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that I think makes her look a lot older. I

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think this hair is really doing her any favors

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and I feel as though right after

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this she gets into a much better place where it's longer.

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's just my personal opinion.

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Also, I bet he's just not scared of her because

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>he's been being abused for decades too.

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Of course, so I think when you're high, you're just like,

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call this police sergeant, fucking mama bear

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and just do whatever I want, you know, I think,

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, but he'd I don't think this guy is

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>used to He's not used to receiving any respect, and

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>so I bet he's not giving any respect to anyone either,

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, so you know, once in a while,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay tries to get through to him and says, I

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>really do want to help you, and he's like, okay,

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>where were you when I was thirteen?

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Where was our alleged mother?

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I don't know, I'm sorry, Like she

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't take care of me either, and he's like, yeah,

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 1>well Voight took care of you. And then he goes,

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>if you want to help me, give me the one

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars you just cost me and let me go

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>back with my friends.

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 3>And Benson's like, well it's not.

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Happening, babe, because we have you on possession and solicitation

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and he refuses to talk to Lindsay or any of them,

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and this is this is tough. So in the next room,

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>haul said is filling in Tomorrow and Rollins like, this

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>has to be so tough for her bad childhood and

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>now her brother like and he's like, she's the toughest

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>cop I know. But he says it in a way

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 1>that's like, I'm so in love with her, it's hurting

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 1>me physically.

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:22.439
<v Speaker 3>And Rollin's and Tomorrow are.

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Immediately like, wo boy, okay, and he goes, no, no,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:26.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not like that.

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:27.760
<v Speaker 3>We just work together.

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And Tomorrow goes, we get it, and Rollins goes totally.

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's funny cause these two are somewhere

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in there. Season fifteen is when he's in her apartment

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>getting in the shower, so we know they've fucked him

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>season fifteen. But there's in season sixteen where we are

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>right now there's a nebulous portion of whether Amorrow and

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Rollins are fucking because when she announces her pregnancy at

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of season seventeen, which we obviously know is

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>declan Murphy's everybody people kind of think it's tomorrow's so

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they could be fucking in this episode for.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 3>All we know, Like we're just not that. It's just

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 3>not touch in this episode.

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>So in Holding Now, liv brings Teddy a blanket and

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.959
<v Speaker 1>she's like, listen, I want to get you out of here,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>but like I do need your help, and she's trying

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to get him to open up. She's telling him, listen,

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like the people that hurt you are hurting other kids.

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>She shows him a picture of Henry, like you got

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>to help me help this boy, like, and Teddy's like

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 1>it's too late, and she's like, it's not too late.

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>We talked to Joscelyn and she's doing great. And the

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 1>mention of Joscelyn kind of like shakes him a little

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>bit and he just goes, thanks for the blanket, and

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 1>then he just cold shoulders her like he's not talking

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to her. And then, because I think you think Benson

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>thought that was her ace in the hole that she

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>was going to say Joscelyn, Who's going to be like what?

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 3>But it didn't work.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So now her and Lindsay are strategizing how to get

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>him to open up, like maybe he can fide it

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in their mom and Lindsay's like, if he did, she

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't remember, and then Rollins goes, well, we talked to

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Joscelyn and she might know more, like and so they

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 1>go speak to her and she tells them that when

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Teddy was thirteen, he was the victim of a sex

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 1>trafficking ring, and Jocelyn is like so shaken. She goes,

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>he was the victim, and then she gathers all her

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>shit up and rushes off, and Rollins is, like, she

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>got arrested at fourteen for hooking, so this is probably

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>how she got turned out, Like she was probably part

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of this ring too, Like we're all it's all assume

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that anybody could have been part of this ring and

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how they knew each other. So they go to

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 1>special Agent O'Connell who ran Joscelyn's pick through their database,

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and he said he hit a jackpot of bad like

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 1>she was horribly abused by this chess and checkers club

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. They see video of Teddy on tape about

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to sexually assault Jocelyn, though it's clear he's like being

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>forced or he's just so traumatized, like you know, but

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he's at this point in the video he's an adult

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's fourteen, but they recognize him by the tattoo

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>on the back of his neck. And now Benson is

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>confronting Teddy about this, shows him the pictures of the

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>video where his star tattoo is like very obvious. He says,

0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>just another day at the office, like very flippant, and

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>they're like, honey, that's a child, so that's rape and

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>it could mean twenty years in jail for you. And

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like laying into Lindsay like some big sister you are,

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like you ignored me for years and now you just

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>want to put me in jail. And he's like, nobody

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>made me do this, and Benson goes, yeah, but we

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't your choice, Like they drugged you, they

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>broke you, they twisted you. And Lindsay's like, this isn't you,

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you were the sweetest boy.

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 3>You could never hurt anyone. And he's like, but I did.

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to and they're like, but they forced you,

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, no, it was my idea because I

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>knew who they would send in to do that to her.

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't me, they would send in someone older,

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>someone rougher, and she wasn't ready for that.

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 3>We were friends. Like I literally just got like goosebumps.

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like so awful.

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like so awful that he did commit a crime,

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but he knew that he was honestly mitigating the attack

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>on her that could have been so much worse. So

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>he eventually went out on his own and got away

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:10.760
<v Speaker 1>from this club and he was arrested a year later,

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's when he saw Jocelyn at the center. He

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to say to her, and they're like,

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>help us stop these people, and he's pissed.

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.240
<v Speaker 3>He's like, what do you want? I was a kid.

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know where I was. I didn't know anyone's name.

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I was in a dark room on a lousy mattress,

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:28.280
<v Speaker 1>eating corn chips. And then he says, when I wasn't

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they it gets cut off, but he's like, basically.

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 3>When he wasn't being horribly abused.

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So he says, it happened in a bunch of crappy places,

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 1>different men coming and going, and he said, but there

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was one guy that everyone was scared of. He was

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>never come, never on camera, but he says he would

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>just come in at night and do me in the

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>dark sometimes. And he was just a white, average middle

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 1>aged guy. But everybody was scared of this dude. And

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the first time he said that he went to the

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:58.440
<v Speaker 1>youth center, he hated it. And then there was a

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>guy there who said, I know a place where you

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.439
<v Speaker 1>could get out, make some money and have your own room.

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, what guy, uh oh, remember the Remember

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>George the security guard. Cut to the lady from the

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>center who we talked to before going. George, our security guard.

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>He's been with us for years. He loves the kids.

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.320
<v Speaker 1>He talks to them, and it's like, what the fuck.

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>They're like, one kid, what about this one kid, Henry.

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 1>They're like, George said he ran away a week ago.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Like at this point, have we even made the connection

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that Henry was at the center, Like they didn't even

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>show Henry's picture to this woman the first time, so fuck,

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this is so dark. They show the picture to the

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>woman and she goes, yep, that's Henry. Like they don't

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 1>even know we could be looking for this kid's parents.

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.360
<v Speaker 1>We haven't even idd this kid besides knowing that his

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 1>name is Henry. And this woman fully we talked to

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>her already days ago. Where's George now? They peep George

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>on the security camera, grabbing his jacket and making a

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>run for it. You know, the cops are there and

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>he's out okay, and they chase him down the street

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Lindsay.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Gets hit by a bicyclist.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Like she just gets fully put down on the ground

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>by a cyclist. I mean, yeah, bikes are going fast,

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 1>they're heavy, like they're coming at you. She gets knocked over,

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and this stupid security fuck thinks he's gonna take down Benson.

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 3>He like lunges at her. She grabs his arm.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Turns him around and flips his whole ass to the ground.

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Marisia Cargata was like, I'm doing this

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>stunt myself, and I want the camera on my face.

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Because you can see her all the time she's.

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Doing it, Like I don't want there to be any

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 1>like fucking question that it was me and not a

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>stunt double who did this.

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 3>So they get this guy. Lindsey stands up and they're like,

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 3>are you okay?

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And she touches the back of her head and she

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 1>pulls her hand out and she's got a ton of

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>blood on her hand, so she faints I don't know

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 1>if she can't see blood or she's just losing a

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of it, but she faints.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>So now we're in the hospital.

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:53.439
<v Speaker 1>RFK Junior is at her bedside like okay or whatever,

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and she's.

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, you came all this way for nothing. I'm fine.

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to SBU And he's like, you have

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>a concussion. You're going back to Chicago and she's like,

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>what about Teddy? And boy goes, you did your part.

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I should have looked out for Teddy. So now it

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>feels like Void is tapping in, Like he goes to

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>meet Olivia and this is their first time meeting in person.

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:14.479
<v Speaker 1>I think we've seen these two talk on the phone

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>with each other, we have obviously earlier in this episode,

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but they haven't met before. So this is them meeting

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and she updates him as they're watching a live stream

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of Henry getting abused again. And Henry his name is

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Henry Thorny's twelve. This pedophile ring has had him for

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a week. So as they're watching it, we hear the

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>purp off camera go club members requests for genre activities

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>starting now, credit card or bitcoin. Tonight is going to

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>be a good one. He's like casually promoting it like

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a comedy show.

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>He's like, don't.

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Forget, like you know, first drink is free, like, and

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>he is teasing this show that's happening in I think

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>like three hours. So now it starts a countdown clock,

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>which they love to do on these shows to heighten

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the state. I love to watch. Yeah, I like a countdown.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I love when they're like, we've only got two more hours.

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I would like the pit in twenty four. I

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>from so into count The pit is good. The pit

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is good. Twenty four I'm not as interested in, but

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the pit is good. And people that are doctors in

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>er say that it's the closest to a real life experience. Okay,

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like it's some of it.

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Watch Yeah, I don't know.

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm into these count I'm like thinking about countdown things.

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I can watch.

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I also was thinking, like how much money

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>could you make as a child? You would travel like that,

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 2>you would do that, that your morals would go so out.

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I started thinking about ice, and then I

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, like some people want to do that. It's

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>not even like, oh, I'll do it for the money.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And I know it's bad. Like I think they're like, hell.

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think, well when we find out who

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>does this, yeah, there's some stuff but to say, but like, yes,

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I do think some people are in it for like

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the love of the game, unfortunately, and then some people

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>are like and they're like, well, I might as well

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 1>make money because other people want this service that I

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.959
<v Speaker 1>can provide and that can only protect me more because

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>money and buys power, which protects you more.

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So this guy is, you know, telling everybody get your

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>requests in.

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>It's maybe five hours.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>You've got a few hours before the show tonight that

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they have to wear. And Henry looks traumatized, and they're

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 1>bringing Georgie in for questioning. So now George's and cement

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 1>room bars with rollins, and tomorrow they show him what's

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>going on with Henry. They show him like on the

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>iPad and uh, He's like.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 3>What do you want me to do?

0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:39.479
<v Speaker 1>These kids run away and like these two are trying

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>like a nice guy act on him. They're like, come on,

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you're a family man, you're a good guy, and he goes, yeah,

0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I am. And I actually recognize the guy playing George,

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and I knew I recognized him. His name is Danny

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Mastro Georgio and he's been on all three Law and Orders,

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>but he's.

0:59:54.920 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Been on he's been in two svus.

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:05.480
<v Speaker 1>One is uh Ballad of Dwight and he Rena okay,

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 1>where he is the lawyer. Remember how Ricky has like

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.240
<v Speaker 1>a really shitty lawyer that keeps being like, be quiet, sweetheart.

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>That's this guy, George. God, yeah, this is Danny Mastro Georgio.

1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And then he's in the Home Invasions episode as well,

1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, I don't remember what character, but

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>he's the attorney Tommy Calabrese in the episode of Ballad

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of dreydon Arena.

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, George is denied, deny, deny.

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Void and Benson are watching and Voight is like making

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 1>digs about like how light and nice the detectives are being.

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 3>He's like, why don't you Why don't you take him

1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 3>to dinner? Why don't you dance with him?

1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And Finn calls live with an update. A kid at

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the center saw Henry get into a gray SUV the

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>day he disappeared with New York plates. I don't know

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>how I mean that helps a little bit, but you know,

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 1>there's probably a million of those in New York. She's like,

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 1>check traffic cams. Voight decides to go into the room

1:00:58.640 --> 1:00:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and help out.

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Again.

1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the reciprocity is with police departments

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 1>going across state lines, especially city police departments, like being like, Oh,

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a Chicago police I'm just going to go

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>into this interrogation room and do what I want, Like,

1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's like a thing. But he goes

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in with big stabler energy, like I'm from Chicago.

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 3>We do things a little differently there, and.

1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>He starts pushing the guy around, slams them against a

1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 1>wall on a table. Benson has to go in and

1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:28.640
<v Speaker 1>do a whole Kragan style my office now. Then in

1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the office, he's like, what are people doing rationalize project minimize?

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I read your handbook. It's bullshit, and Benson goes, it works,

1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, so does terrorizing people when it's called for.

1:01:41.280 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So this guy's got a real anger problem. And she goes,

1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I had a partner who used to

1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>work like that, and sometimes it worked and other times

1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it led to false confessions and overturned convictions. And he says,

1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:56.320
<v Speaker 1>what happens in the box stays in the box.

1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:57.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like, this isn't Guantanamo.

1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, maybe in Chicago, and she goes, maybe

1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, but you're in New York City now, And reminder,

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you're here as a courtesy, so if you pull that

1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:08.760
<v Speaker 1>crap again, I'll arrest you. Meanwhile, the live stream is

1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like a karaoke DJ, just being like, get your requests

1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.440
<v Speaker 1>in now, three hours till showtime.

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just like on in the background.

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to say not to bring up lad

1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Bible again, but I watched an interview with the guy

1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:28.160
<v Speaker 2>from the CIA that was the whistleblower on torture being used,

1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and he served a little over two years in prison.

1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:35.760
<v Speaker 2>But he's the one that blew the lid off, and

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:37.800
<v Speaker 2>so I need to secrets.

1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't get why you have to get prison time for

1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:42.720
<v Speaker 1>exposing people doing bad things.

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, because it's being a trader to your government. But

1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 2>they were doing something bad. Yeah, but the government knew.

1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You're a trader to your You're a trader to your

1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.480
<v Speaker 1>government if you go help Russia, not if you say, hey,

1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:56.720
<v Speaker 1>our guys are doing bad shit.

1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not on the side of this, Yeah, happened.

1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:01.480
<v Speaker 2>If I want him.

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<v Speaker 1>Free, I know you're not anti whistle blowing. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>he had two parts. I watched both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he was talking about cool things of how

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<v Speaker 2>you do stuff, and he had an opportunity to kill

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<v Speaker 2>someone but save them that day. I mean, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>already spilled the secrets.

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<v Speaker 3>He could do whatever. So it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean with men, is that I am more suspicious

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<v Speaker 2>of them lying and over exaggerating. Yeah, but I trusted

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<v Speaker 2>him because he went to prison, okay, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>Russia is really good at sleeper cells, that there it's real,

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<v Speaker 2>and that they're we watched the Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, come on, not that that's like a documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, but yeah, but he said it is a

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<v Speaker 2>thing because he was answering questions and so there was

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<v Speaker 2>you know that people like us would want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>That was cool. Do I remember his name? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But no. So anyway, Voight goes, if you got a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea to make progress, I'm all ears and show him.

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<v Speaker 3>Live, show him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the last scene, it was three hours still showtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's two hours still showtime, and no one can

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<v Speaker 1>trace the feed. The youth Center's looking for Henry's parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and Finn's like why so they can see this, like

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<v Speaker 1>why are you finding the parents live in void in

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<v Speaker 1>cement room bars showing the live stream to George and

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<v Speaker 1>they're telling him, you know you're gonna get in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for selling this kid, and he's like denying, denying, and

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<v Speaker 1>Benson threatens to leave Georgian there with Voight and he goes, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no any caves and they said. He goes, look, they

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<v Speaker 1>said they needed young actors and they're like, you're that stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, I make twelve dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a kid in college, and they gave me

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>When I send them someone, it is like sad how

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he makes twelve bucks an hour. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a kid in college. You know he's desperate, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>selling children. And Live tries to guilt him to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>so your kid goes to college, but the boy you

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<v Speaker 1>sold she can't even finish. Voight just slams his hand

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<v Speaker 1>on the table and is like commanding George to talk more.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, look, I get a call once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the guy's name. I get he brings

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<v Speaker 1>the money. When the kid gets picked up, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where he takes them. He goes, we

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<v Speaker 1>need more, and so George racks his brain and he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was mad. I was late the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he'd have to beat traffic home and pay

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<v Speaker 1>a double toll twenty two point fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>He took it out of my money.

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<v Speaker 1>George is madd he lost twenty two to fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>his deal handing children over to a sex ring psycho.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're bringing Teddy down to ask him more questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Voight is like, so I can't beat this guy up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could threaten that I'm going to beat this

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<v Speaker 1>guy up. And she goes, well, I'm using the cards

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<v Speaker 1>that i'm dealt, you know. She's like, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I don't lift her finger, i'm good, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's sexually smart, so smart play. She knows

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<v Speaker 1>she's got this guy on a leash, but why not say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my dog could still bite you. So Voight

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<v Speaker 1>says hello to Teddy, apologizes to not for not keeping

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on him, and he goes, I'm not as

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<v Speaker 1>pretty as Aaron and He's like, I didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to disappear, and he goes, well, presto, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>and Live breaks this up.

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<v Speaker 3>They need Teddy's help.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything in this room where Henry is being held, does

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<v Speaker 1>any of it look familiar? And he's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>left that life a while ago and I don't recognize anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were like, maybe we should take another run

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<v Speaker 1>at Jocelyn. She's younger, she was in the ring more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll recognize some of this stuff. But Rollins is like,

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<v Speaker 1>she was pretty uncooperative and traumatized and did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to us, like she will not come in here,

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<v Speaker 1>and Voyd goes ar wrestler, Yeah, just arrestor and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not an SVU guy, and they go we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything on her, and he goes good point, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he says to Live, how good are you at undercover?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he came up with this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like so weird. But Amara and Rollins approached Jocelyn

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<v Speaker 1>studying in a coffee shop. She does not want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them, and they're like, well tell that to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they point over their shoulder to Live and

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<v Speaker 1>Void who are posing as mister and missus Thorn, Henry's parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just sitting there distraught, looking like two people missing

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<v Speaker 1>their child. They sit with her and they give her

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<v Speaker 1>the whole You're our last hopeful song and Dance Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Is crying, she's begging. Voight shows her a picture of Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>Joscelyn looks stressed, but I guess it works out because

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing we see is Jocelyn and the precinct

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<v Speaker 1>and they bring her in to say hi to Teddy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is crazy. Why would you make a victim look

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<v Speaker 1>at their perpetrator. I don't understand. I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>he was like her friend and trying to do the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing for her, Like I understand that putting them

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<v Speaker 1>in a room together is so nuts. And Jocelyn is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously upset, and Teddy apologizes and she's like, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even in my body. My mind was floating

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<v Speaker 1>on the ceiling. I don't remember anything, and he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to call you mouse. I gave you one

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<v Speaker 1>of my twinkies, and she goes, you gave me both

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<v Speaker 1>of your twinkies. And it's like they she goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were friends. Why did you do that to me?

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, it was better if it was me

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<v Speaker 1>and not somebody else. And Rollins asked Jocelyn to take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the stream of Henry to see if

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<v Speaker 1>the room looks familiar. That room, she says, I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a room from after Teddy left. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>we drove across a long bridge to get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was blindfolded by her. Remember tires on metal. So

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow is like Stabler with the Catholic schools. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>all the bridges, and he knows how much all their

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<v Speaker 1>tolls cost. So they figure out very quickly that this

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<v Speaker 1>bridge must be the Staten Island, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the Verizono. But like that, it's the bridge to Staten Island,

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<v Speaker 1>so Jocelyn says, and the voice that guy's name is Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>No, isn't Verazano the green Point one? Or No, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the green Point one? Doesn't it have a funny name?

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<v Speaker 2>That one is called the the Peter?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it Peter?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Verrazano goes from Brooklyn to Staten Island. But what's the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm thinking of in green Point? Yeah, Pulaski. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it not Pulaski, Yeah, Pulaski, Pulaski. Yeah, because that's like

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<v Speaker 1>we would sometimes walk like from the Creek into Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>over the Pulaski.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, oh no, I thought it goes to Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one that goes from work or from.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenbrook to the Creek or something. I think, yeah, back

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<v Speaker 1>to like comics houses, you know. So anyway, we're figuring

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<v Speaker 1>it all out. Satn Island Bridge. Jocelyn identified the shock.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Bridge Stock.

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<v Speaker 1>Jocelyn says. The voice in the live stream is Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>And Teddy gets upset and Jocelyn is like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, he's the one who chained me down for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And this whole time they're just like all listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Henry's scream and begged to be let go, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. Like the poor kid that had to play

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<v Speaker 1>this part. He just had to scream let me go, please,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I want I want to go home,

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<v Speaker 1>like all like over and over, and Rollins is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the guy everyone's scared of? And Teddy's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not Bob. Bob was just a pig. He'd make me

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<v Speaker 1>get his Chinese food by the end, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember the last name on the orders and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, he's like the name of a president

1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:05.639
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, like Bush or Reagan. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>the one with the trumpet and they're like the saxophone

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton And I'm like, wow, that for Bill Clinton to

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<v Speaker 1>now be referenced in a pedophile ring episode of s

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<v Speaker 1>View is just very has aged. It's a reference that

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely aged.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I also saw this one post where you know, this

1:10:24.520 --> 1:10:26.559
<v Speaker 2>woman was like ever like when right wing people are

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<v Speaker 2>like what about Bill Clinton?

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, I was in third grade. I did

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<v Speaker 3>not vote for Bill Clinton. Clinton. The thought that you

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<v Speaker 3>think I have.

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<v Speaker 2>This like roman like love for Bill Clinton. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a child, But I do remember liking because I like

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<v Speaker 2>the cat. I like socks the cat. Yeah, I really

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<v Speaker 2>remember the cat. I had a magnet. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>sox magnet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like watching an old SNL recently and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like I forgot that they just made fun of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton for being fat.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single fucking week.

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<v Speaker 1>They would just literally have him jogging and eating burgers

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<v Speaker 1>while he was jogging, and shit, like they just were

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<v Speaker 1>constantly like I mean before the Lewinsky stuff, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that you know, probably took over.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, but so now they're looking for Bob Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait do you know that lin Sarah Paulson who played

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Tripp, and that thing was on Monica Lewinsky's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about like Monica Lewinsky's like, oh, that scene where

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<v Speaker 2>we were out to lunch, like I didn't realize everyone

1:11:31.960 --> 1:11:34.479
<v Speaker 2>was an agent, like a secret, like I was all

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<v Speaker 2>a setup, like and she just thought she was going

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<v Speaker 2>to lunch with her friend and she's just talking and

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<v Speaker 2>then she can't she has to be a little more diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sarah Paulson got to keep talking shit about Linda Trip.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was cool. Yeah, Oh I got to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually feel like I would like Monica Lewinsky's podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because I really like everything she tweets.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think she's really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but not that I'm on Twitter anymore, But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I followed her, and I think she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>cool because a lot of women in what Monica Lewins

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<v Speaker 1>you went through would have like faded into the background

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<v Speaker 1>and gone into hiding.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm like octomom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like just become like totally and she has like

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<v Speaker 1>really made a cool career for herself and is a smart,

1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:22.240
<v Speaker 1>accomplished woman. And it's just she's just like very confident

1:12:22.320 --> 1:12:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and I like like.

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<v Speaker 3>She was twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy, like a kid and the butt of

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's jokes, like anyway back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does it's not even that crazy because you

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<v Speaker 2>they just wanted Tony. You know, there's people now, they're

1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:41.439
<v Speaker 2>like kids, kids can consent. If the kids want to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be able to you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, crazy but yeah, because I feel yeah, people

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<v Speaker 2>take seen year old is okay, Yeah, take your your

1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:57.599
<v Speaker 2>friend's just dressed and hand it over. But yeah, Linda

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<v Speaker 2>thought she that's the thing when you serve the patriarchy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever win. She thought she was like doing something cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Linda Tripp ultimate pick me a government picked me

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. Yeah, oh my god. So they are looking

1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:14.880
<v Speaker 1>now for Bob Clinton in Staten Island with a gray SUV.

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<v Speaker 1>So Halston and Rowlands are watching the stream and suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>Rollins goes, I have something and we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But she suddenly directs them to this very

1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:30.679
<v Speaker 1>specific place in Eltingville. And as they're watching the stream

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy is like about to assault Henry, the

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<v Speaker 1>cops bust in. Void screams, freeze, get your hands up.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got the guy down on the ground. Two more

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<v Speaker 1>guys run Tomorrow and Finn grab them outside. Henry looks terrified,

1:13:44.240 --> 1:13:46.559
<v Speaker 1>but Benson's there to help him, thank god, and he's like,

1:13:46.720 --> 1:13:48.759
<v Speaker 1>he just wants to go home, and like he's gonna

1:13:48.760 --> 1:13:52.160
<v Speaker 1>get to you know, he's gonna I mean, he's gonna

1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:54.439
<v Speaker 1>be traumatized. But he got out before the big fucking

1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:59.439
<v Speaker 1>whatever show was about to happen any minute. So now

1:14:00.000 --> 1:14:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and the final act of the episode, in the precinct,

1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:05.040
<v Speaker 1>they're delivering these guys. Bob and these two other guys

1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:08.400
<v Speaker 1>are tech support. They don't know anything. I'm like, you're

1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:10.360
<v Speaker 1>helping do this stream. You don't know a single thing

1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that's happening. They don't show you what's happening. You don't

1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:15.519
<v Speaker 1>see any of the video. They know enough they should

1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.720
<v Speaker 1>go to jail. They were crying in the car. They

1:14:17.760 --> 1:14:20.640
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to offer, or they like they would have

1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:22.439
<v Speaker 1>offered it up if they did for a deal, you know,

1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:27.120
<v Speaker 1>So they're bad guys, but they're not like running the

1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:30.040
<v Speaker 1>actual they're not you know, but they're helping with the tech.

1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:30.639
<v Speaker 3>So bad.

1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:33.559
<v Speaker 1>But Rollins comes in and shows them the bad news.

1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:36.120
<v Speaker 1>The site is up and running and it's got a

1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:38.519
<v Speaker 1>tune in card up with a little girl's picture on it.

1:14:38.880 --> 1:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>So they didn't get the head of the snake and

1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the head of the snake is still operating from who

1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:47.000
<v Speaker 1>knows where. They need to find the guy. Everyone is

1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy that everyone is afraid of, and they need

1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:53.479
<v Speaker 1>this guy Bob to give him up. So now we're

1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in with Bob and he's trying to act like the

1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:58.280
<v Speaker 1>kid came with him voluntarily, nothing happened. This is all

1:14:58.360 --> 1:15:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of the up and up. It's like wild how they

1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:05.320
<v Speaker 1>try to act like voluntarily, you were about to rape

1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a kid on camera, Like what do you think the

1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:08.200
<v Speaker 1>cops are going to go?

1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we didn't realize that we're going to go.

1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:12.240
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, you know, tell us who the boss

1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is and he goes, you don't know, get a da

1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:19.599
<v Speaker 1>down here. I know things people you'll never find without

1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.479
<v Speaker 1>my help, and I want full immunity or I walk,

1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and Benson goes, we'll think about it. Meanwhile, I'll send

1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you to the tombs and let you think about your options.

1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:35.680
<v Speaker 1>People get a lot of clarity there. So Tomorrow reports

1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that Henry's parents have been found. Jocelyn went back to

1:15:39.439 --> 1:15:41.439
<v Speaker 1>school and doesn't want to see any of these cops

1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:44.400
<v Speaker 1>ever again in her life. Teddy is sleeping and Benson's like,

1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:45.680
<v Speaker 1>well wake him up. We got to see if he

1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:49.120
<v Speaker 1>can id Clinton. So then Hall said is heading back

1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:51.439
<v Speaker 1>to Chicago, and voices like, I'm going to stick around

1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and see if I can help you. Guys turn Clinton

1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:56.479
<v Speaker 1>and the DA is going to be there in an hour.

1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>They'll review options, and voices like I want to crack

1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:01.720
<v Speaker 1>it him first, and I don't think you're going to

1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:04.880
<v Speaker 1>get that. And then Benson gets a phone call that

1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:08.240
<v Speaker 1>was the tombs. Someone beat you to it. In the tombs,

1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:11.640
<v Speaker 1>we see Bob Clinton dead on the shower floor in

1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a pool of blood, and Rollins is like, this is

1:16:14.840 --> 1:16:17.240
<v Speaker 1>what you call protective custody, and the guy there is

1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:19.439
<v Speaker 1>like the CEO stepped away for two minutes and when

1:16:19.479 --> 1:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he came back, Clinton was shimmed in the neck. The

1:16:21.840 --> 1:16:24.639
<v Speaker 1>guy who did it is named Lester Davis. We need

1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to see his call logs. And visitors' logs. Guess what,

1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:29.639
<v Speaker 1>he only got one call that morning from a throwaway

1:16:29.760 --> 1:16:33.040
<v Speaker 1>cell phone that was sold in Chicago. So then Voight

1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:38.360
<v Speaker 1>gets a call. It's Lindsay with bad news. Andrew Llewellyn, who,

1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.280
<v Speaker 1>if you'll remember, is the guy where they found the

1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:44.240
<v Speaker 1>original photos in the Chicago fire episode of all these

1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.280
<v Speaker 1>awful photos. He and the cop that was guarding him

1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:50.919
<v Speaker 1>were just shot to death twenty minutes ago. Everyone is stunned,

1:16:51.680 --> 1:16:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know, this is the point in the show

1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:57.479
<v Speaker 1>where usually somebody goes, they're cleaning house, right, like they're

1:16:57.479 --> 1:17:00.360
<v Speaker 1>just killing everybody that's alive that's been part of this.

1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's done, and Benson goes, you know, that's snakehead. You

1:17:04.560 --> 1:17:06.679
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the head of the snake that's in Chicago.

1:17:06.840 --> 1:17:10.479
<v Speaker 1>And Voight tells Lindsay, I'm coming home, and that's Dick Wolf.

1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:13.240
<v Speaker 3>So I watched the whole episode.

1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving you a full recap on the episode

1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:17.960
<v Speaker 1>because this is not a Chicago Pea podcast, but if

1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to watch how this ends up, it's a

1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:22.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty good episode. It's season two, episode seven. You'll have

1:17:23.000 --> 1:17:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to go through me of Chicago pe d Rollin's and

1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:27.640
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow get to go on a little lover's retreat to

1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the Windy City, baby, And Chicago PD is really taking

1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:34.439
<v Speaker 1>this personally because one of their own cops was killed,

1:17:34.479 --> 1:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Like they're really upset, Like everyone is like, you find

1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy, I'll dig the ditch myself, Like everyone's.

1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Fucking really upset that this cop has been killed.

1:17:43.240 --> 1:17:45.759
<v Speaker 1>So and he was like long on the job, had kids,

1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the reasons why you're sad somebody dies.

1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And then at one point they're trying to get some

1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:53.080
<v Speaker 1>information out of her nurse and she won't talk to them,

1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and Tomorrow does his whole like thendes too.

1:17:56.080 --> 1:17:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Like he goes, where are you from?

1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:01.880
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes, uh, Kubano poodle baby like like

1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:03.479
<v Speaker 1>she fucking that.

1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Like we're like, yeah, it's funny that that works so easily. Everything.

1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:11.080
<v Speaker 1>He is really hot and just was speaking Spanish to

1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:12.880
<v Speaker 1>her and she's Cuban and he's Cuban and she's like

1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>sliding out of her scrubs.

1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:16.719
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, I'll tell you anything you want, okay.

1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:20.760
<v Speaker 2>So he is one of our guests. I mean it's

1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:23.200
<v Speaker 2>one of two guests that have cried on the pod.

1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, both hot I think both of our guests that

1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:27.360
<v Speaker 1>have cried are hot.

1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Casey, you see, do you not remember the other

1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:33.720
<v Speaker 2>one or you don't remember that Bobby Burke Robert John

1:18:33.760 --> 1:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Burke teared up.

1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Tucker, Yeah, I think he's hot. Okay. He is so

1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:42.280
<v Speaker 3>shocked by the people that we think are hot.

1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:42.680
<v Speaker 7>I know.

1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But but Amorrow, No, But every time I say a person,

1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel, you're like this guy, Danny Pino is like hot,

1:18:49.800 --> 1:18:54.120
<v Speaker 1>hot hot. I don't like Tomorrow as a guy, but yeah,

1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like Amorrow is like, you know, he's in a museum

1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of hotness.

1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:00.599
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Robin's and Tomorrow are there. Okay. So they get

1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:02.280
<v Speaker 3>this woman the info from the nurse whatever.

1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:06.680
<v Speaker 1>They basically start to track this whole ring, and they

1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:09.559
<v Speaker 1>get them to they get to these two foster kids,

1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:13.639
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron actually finds out through this research that Teddy

1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>was in the system. She didn't even know that he

1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:18.160
<v Speaker 1>was a foster kid because she just was like, I

1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:19.920
<v Speaker 1>was told he went to go live with his dad, Like,

1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where he was.

1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like a teen, you know.

1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:28.439
<v Speaker 1>So they find eventually pretty quickly in the episode the

1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.720
<v Speaker 1>little girl that they're looking for these two foster kids

1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:34.519
<v Speaker 1>that are missing, and they find the little girl and

1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:36.920
<v Speaker 1>her and Sophia Bush have sort of like a Beck

1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and l Fanning kind of relationship, you know, but the

1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:43.879
<v Speaker 1>little boy, Chris is still missing. Eventually, Benson comes to Chicago.

1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>She comes to Chicago with this tiny, little leather Duffel bag.

1:19:46.840 --> 1:19:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, where's all your fabulous outerwear gonna fit you're

1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, Like that is not a big enough bag.

1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:54.479
<v Speaker 1>But Teddy comes out to Chicago too. I mean, the

1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:57.280
<v Speaker 1>whole gang is out in Chicago. And when they're at

1:19:57.280 --> 1:20:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the precinct reviewing field trips, I'm like, there's somewhere else.

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:04.160
<v Speaker 1>When they get to travel, like even when they get

1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to go to like Florida, they're like in like a shithole.

1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:07.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, this is so fun. You think Benson's

1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:10.400
<v Speaker 1>he is cool across I do get excited.

1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I get excited. Yeah.

1:20:12.320 --> 1:20:16.639
<v Speaker 1>So Teddy's in the precinct in Chicago and he suddenly

1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like locks eyes on something and and is pointing at

1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like probably their suspect board. And he basically Id's this

1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:29.120
<v Speaker 1>guy named Van Camp who works at DCFS and uses

1:20:29.200 --> 1:20:32.880
<v Speaker 1>his position there to procure kids for this ring.

1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:35.880
<v Speaker 3>And he is the leader of this ring.

1:20:35.960 --> 1:20:40.559
<v Speaker 1>But he's just this schlubby, old white guy like was

1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>described by Teddy originally.

1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:44.880
<v Speaker 3>And if he's making a lot of money on this ring,

1:20:44.920 --> 1:20:45.679
<v Speaker 3>he's not using.

1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:47.519
<v Speaker 1>It on his clothes. He does lot he's got like

1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>he's balding. He just looks like a So this is

1:20:50.080 --> 1:20:53.599
<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy. To me, It's like, you're still

1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>maintaining your job at DCFS and like, I know that's

1:20:56.920 --> 1:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>how you get Like to me, you've probably made enough

1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>money at this point and you can procure people through

1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:07.160
<v Speaker 1>other means that you could stop. But you I think

1:21:07.200 --> 1:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this guy likes to be in this position at DCFS

1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:11.559
<v Speaker 1>where he can has access to all these kids. You know,

1:21:12.080 --> 1:21:14.599
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about who does this and why, Like

1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know he's a pedophile, But he's also

1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like I think the money part for him is probably

1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:21.839
<v Speaker 1>just for protection because I don't think he cares about

1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:24.080
<v Speaker 1>having wealth. He cares about being able to molest as

1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:28.559
<v Speaker 1>many kids as he can. So Benson has to once

1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:30.680
<v Speaker 1>again ask Voight not to beat the shit out of

1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:32.479
<v Speaker 1>this guy to find out where little Chris is.

1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:35.320
<v Speaker 2>So, so did you talk about like when Teddy points

1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to it slowly.

1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he points to it in his eyes wide

1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and he walks towards it and that's really Yeah, it's Screa.

1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's when we find out that it's this guy

1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Van Camp and he won't talk to Voight, and then

1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Benson tries takes a shot at him, and she obviously

1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>has her ways and she gets him to say where

1:21:56.360 --> 1:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Chris is and uh, he gives up the location.

1:22:00.280 --> 1:22:00.720
<v Speaker 3>And kills it.

1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:02.120
<v Speaker 2>One of her best speeches. So have one of our

1:22:02.120 --> 1:22:05.160
<v Speaker 2>best speeches in Chicago p D. Yeah, it's tough, but

1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>it's a good one.

1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy too that they're highlighting how you can

1:22:09.160 --> 1:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>actually get things done not being a violent psycho look

1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:14.599
<v Speaker 1>way that Voight is, and they're doing it on his show,

1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:17.679
<v Speaker 1>So why doesn't does that change that character anymore after?

1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, you know, if he starts to do things

1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in a different way because they're only in their second season.

1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:25.160
<v Speaker 3>But the guy gets up the location of Chris.

1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>They find him obviously in like a horrible basement of

1:22:28.000 --> 1:22:30.880
<v Speaker 1>like a burnt out house, per usual. There's a dramatic

1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>service for the cop who died. Teddy is going to

1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>stay with Lindsay and the mom in Chicago, and he's

1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:41.719
<v Speaker 1>just like incredulous because he's like, I just never thought

1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>these guys would be caught. I just didn't think that.

1:22:44.280 --> 1:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I just thought this was going to keep going forever.

1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.599
<v Speaker 1>And the family's all crying and apologizing, and they seem

1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like in a better place. And that's and

1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that's Dick Wolf on Chicago p D Baby. So we

1:22:56.000 --> 1:22:58.639
<v Speaker 1>find the guy and it's a fucking DCFS guy who's

1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:03.559
<v Speaker 1>so scary that but how are you moving back and

1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:07.160
<v Speaker 1>forth to New York City as like this DCFS guy anyway,

1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Somehow he's bouncing back and forth because

1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that's where they had. Henry was in New York San Island.

1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's like maybe it's one of those things where

1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.599
<v Speaker 1>he sets up like satellite things and like so Bob

1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Clinton was doing his New York work and then other

1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>people's doing other work for him. But it's it's just discussed.

1:23:29.400 --> 1:23:32.479
<v Speaker 1>It's shocked and disgusting that it's such a quote unquote

1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>normal seeming guy. It's not some like guy in a

1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>petting a white cat in like an evil layer.

1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know marketing and pr because if we went

1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:44.559
<v Speaker 2>down to the cold hard facts, we would be scared

1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>of those people more often, you know, it's like the

1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:51.880
<v Speaker 2>their pr of being in control.

1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Of everything, but like that is it?

1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like the fear that you know, the

1:23:59.760 --> 1:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>like the fear and stress of someone snatching your kid

1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>when it's like no, it's the people that were like trusting, Yeah,

1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the people that are within the systems, within the places,

1:24:13.000 --> 1:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're fucking sick. And I'll lead you on to

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the next six.

1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the next.

1:24:26.280 --> 1:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is a Norwich child sexual abuse ring. It's

1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>in the UK, it's right around the time of this episode.

1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if it's BBC laws or what.

1:24:38.560 --> 1:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I probably went through like twenty articles and all of

1:24:40.960 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>them had the same five facts over and over and

1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again, like the same exact language.

1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it was protected because these are these

1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>were children with sex gris.

1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we've done other cases from there with more details,

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<v Speaker 2>but truly every single article was the same five things.

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<v Speaker 1>Over and over and over again, and they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>not release Maybe the police are just not releasing things, yea, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's what I mean. Yeah. So, but the BBC, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, seemingly respectable people living ordinary lives let me look

1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>at them. But yeah, so we have. But that's like

1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the core. We have to stop being surprised when it's

1:25:21.200 --> 1:25:24.719
<v Speaker 2>regular people because it's always regular people, Like I don't

1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:29.640
<v Speaker 2>know when, but it was, yes, yes, yeah, being surprised

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<v Speaker 2>so annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but.

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<v Speaker 2>Also with the regular thing I wrote, I wrote breaking Bad,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's Gus he's working at the chicken shop. Just

1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>seems like so much work to have the cover and

1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>this other full time criminal enterprise, Like these are clearly workaholics.

1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But like I can't imagine like being a fake manager

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<v Speaker 2>of a chicken restaurant and then doing a whole drug enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't even remember.

1:25:56.120 --> 1:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>How Gus Fring enjoys his money because he doesn't have, right,

1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Like he doesn't have like a bit. He can't have

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<v Speaker 1>any of these big things like like at least with

1:26:06.880 --> 1:26:10.479
<v Speaker 1>at least with Walter, you knew he was leaving that

1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:12.799
<v Speaker 1>money to his wife and kids when he died of cancer.

1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>That was originally the conceit of the show. What's Gus doing.

1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Is he's in it for the love of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he likes the power and the fucking running shit, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was also excellent at running a chicken franchise.

1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>How you do one thing is how you do everything. God,

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<v Speaker 3>now I want chicken.

1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:40.599
<v Speaker 2>So Actually, the chicken shop that I lived near, they

1:26:40.640 --> 1:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>gave me a magnet last week. And the girl that

1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:44.920
<v Speaker 2>works their designs, she's always there. I hope it's a

1:26:44.920 --> 1:26:47.840
<v Speaker 2>normal situation. I'm always like, girl, you gotta take a

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<v Speaker 2>day off.

1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:49.360
<v Speaker 3>She goes, I can't.

1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>She's her all day, all day in it. But she

1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:54.439
<v Speaker 2>designed all these magnets since she gave me one, So

1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy. It says Crispy on it. Ooh, with New

1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>York iconography and a chicken I'm obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I don't know why did I bring in breaking bad,

1:27:04.479 --> 1:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>but I wrote it in the notes. It wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>like off the top of my head, like that's just

1:27:08.280 --> 1:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>what I thought about. But anyways, this this pedal ring

1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>was operating for ten years. This is what I'm calling

1:27:14.080 --> 1:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm start I'm just gonna start calling.

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<v Speaker 1>More people petos, yeah, pedophiles.

1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Every time now online people are like, well, it's because

1:27:22.840 --> 1:27:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm fighting online.

1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:24.640
<v Speaker 3>It's humiliating.

1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But people are like the like anyone that's talking about

1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:33.519
<v Speaker 2>They basically say oh, thirteen year olds can't consent to sex,

1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>but they can, but they can change their gender. That's

1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:38.439
<v Speaker 2>like what they would like to do. Like, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, So I just keep writing, Okay, pedophile, Okay, pal,

1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:45.040
<v Speaker 2>that's just like, yeah, I'm gonna bring that more into

1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>any comment you make. I'm gonna be like, Okay, it

1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>seems like you're a pedophile. Gross, okay, pedo, We don't.

1:27:50.439 --> 1:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>We don't accuse people enough. We don't accuse people. We

1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>need to start throwing pedophile around loose, Yes, yeah, loose.

1:27:56.160 --> 1:28:00.880
<v Speaker 2>See who gets nervous, See who gets defensive? This is

1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>your subway take. We need to start throwing pedophile around more.

1:28:04.080 --> 1:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent agree. Someone was saying that you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell he hates doing it now there's like a suffering

1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>behind the eyes.

1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.160
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just like, I really Chris.

1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Fleming's whole bit about it. It's so funny. It's very funny.

1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I love Chris Fleming. He's so cool.

1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>He really knew how to work that stage, that carnivor

1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:24.360
<v Speaker 3>yeah stage.

1:28:25.479 --> 1:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>He looks like a seventies rock star or something when

1:28:28.400 --> 1:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>he's on.

1:28:28.760 --> 1:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>There's really funny. I'm relate, I'm late to the Chris

1:28:32.320 --> 1:28:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Fleming game. Unfortunately I'm pretty late to him, but thrilled

1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that he entered my life.

1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He and I did stand up and clown together, the

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<v Speaker 1>one where you can't talk, and one of the clowns,

1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Natalie Palomides, is a clown king. I would say, makes

1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:53.639
<v Speaker 1>fun of you. He roasts all of you. He told

1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:58.439
<v Speaker 1>me I had Hillary Clinton energy for the whole audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they laugh?

1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was funny. He was like saying, I'm more

1:29:06.000 --> 1:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>successful than Jared and stuff. It was like, really, because

1:29:08.080 --> 1:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>we were on it together, it was really funny.

1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know that one. Wait, but why am I? Oh? Yeah,

1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:18.439
<v Speaker 2>but I watch all the subway takes. It's like an

1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:20.479
<v Speaker 2>enjoyable thing for me. I do all the polls. I

1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like it.

1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>But I don't see a darkness in his eyes of

1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:26.439
<v Speaker 3>sad because to me, I'm like, you have like a

1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:28.120
<v Speaker 3>whull fit, like make your money. I don't know.

1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>This is a great gig. Do you see sadness? And

1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the eyes let us know how many sadness. I don't

1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:36.599
<v Speaker 2>see any sadness because you're wearing those glasses. I don't

1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>see anything.

1:29:37.240 --> 1:29:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why it's wearing Yeah, it's wearing the glasses

1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to hide the.

1:29:42.120 --> 1:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>But it's better than it's better than another job. That's

1:29:45.439 --> 1:29:45.680
<v Speaker 3>to me.

1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if you're sad doing subway takes, you're out

1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:48.759
<v Speaker 2>of your mind.

1:29:48.920 --> 1:29:49.320
<v Speaker 7>Come on.

1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, I'd love to be on it pedal start

1:29:54.000 --> 1:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>calling people with pedophiles. The other react, We're gonna catch

1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>kill it. We're gonna catch them, We're gonna catch them

1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>all pokemon vibe. Okay, So the names are Marie Black,

1:30:02.240 --> 1:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Michael Rogers, Jason Adams, and they were the leaders, but

1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>most of the press just kept being like, Mary Black,

1:30:08.280 --> 1:30:10.679
<v Speaker 2>she's a woman, she's evil. Can you believe it's a woman,

1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>human trafficker, it's a woman. It's an evil woman. Can

1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:14.519
<v Speaker 2>you believe a woman did it? So most of the

1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>presses about her, and she was a decade plus younger

1:30:17.320 --> 1:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>than them.

1:30:17.840 --> 1:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, look at how Galaine is the only one

1:30:21.200 --> 1:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>serving time for these crimes.

1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the other one was murdered. I don't know.

1:30:28.400 --> 1:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that happens with like all the cops too,

1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Like all the cops that shoot in us and people.

1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>The people that get convicted are women. Yeah, and they

1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>should be everyone should be. They should all yes, yeah.

1:30:40.240 --> 1:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll be equally we should be equally shocked that

1:30:44.200 --> 1:30:45.519
<v Speaker 1>anybody did this kind of thing.

1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, So it's all about her.

1:30:46.880 --> 1:30:48.479
<v Speaker 2>But then in court the defense was like, no, she's

1:30:48.520 --> 1:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>a poor woman, she's a victim, but she was at

1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the center of it.

1:30:52.520 --> 1:30:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

1:30:53.600 --> 1:30:55.679
<v Speaker 2>But also the best part of her defense, they said

1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>she was too dumbed to have been able to set

1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>this up. Was the defense. They go, this, this dumb bitch.

1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of a two dumb defense. But they

1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:06.599
<v Speaker 2>were like, there's no way she came up with this scheme.

1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>But so the children, like I said, all age under thirteen,

1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>two boys and three girls, So they were subjects of

1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:17.439
<v Speaker 2>this abuse for ten years. So kind of reminds me

1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Rosanna Arquette episode where it's like the family

1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:23.719
<v Speaker 2>of children just being taken around and abused. It wasn't,

1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>but I guess they these kids grew up together to

1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Teddy and the girl. So yeah, but it was the

1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:31.639
<v Speaker 2>same two boys, three girls. They were raped passed around.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the children said he was in the ring

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<v Speaker 2>since he was two years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Detective Chief Inspector Peter Hornby said it was the most

1:31:39.120 --> 1:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>harrowing case he has ever dealt with in twenty three

1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>years of policing.

1:31:42.439 --> 1:31:43.320
<v Speaker 3>That's to the BBC.

1:31:43.920 --> 1:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>And then the judge Nicholas Coleman had the same thoughts

1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>to the Guardian. He wrote, this case is the most harrowing.

1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:50.759
<v Speaker 2>It has been my misfortune to try.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, they forced the children to perform sex

1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>X on each other and then adults like it was

1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>these parties, so adults would come and play card games

1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and that would decide which person would abuse which child,

1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:08.479
<v Speaker 2>and the abuse happened in front of adults other children.

1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>They would use children's.

1:32:09.760 --> 1:32:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Toys so like Barbie dolls. That kept being said over

1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and over, and they would transport them to parties to

1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>be abused. And then the allegations were reported to the

1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:25.280
<v Speaker 2>cops in twenty ten, but in twenty twelve they finally

1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>got more evidence. So two more years of abuse these

1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>children had to like endure. So yeah, so then they

1:32:31.680 --> 1:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>finally had sufficient evidence to make initial arrests in twenty thirteen.

1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:38.439
<v Speaker 3>But how were they not able to remove the children

1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>from the Where were they?

1:32:40.560 --> 1:32:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, It's what I mean, like there was

1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>truly like this. It was every article was the same

1:32:44.120 --> 1:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff like this is like that. The only thing I

1:32:45.840 --> 1:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't write is like after they were convicted, she she

1:32:48.040 --> 1:32:50.120
<v Speaker 2>went like they stitched us up, and I was like,

1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about what you have to say, honestly. Yeah,

1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:57.479
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, so arrest in twenty thirteen convictions. In July

1:32:57.600 --> 1:33:01.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen, Adam was guilty on thirty One of the

1:33:01.600 --> 1:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>men was guilty on thirteen counts and he was forty

1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:08.799
<v Speaker 2>four years of age, and then Rogers was fourteen counts.

1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>He was forty six years of age, and both those

1:33:11.240 --> 1:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>men got twenty four year sentences.

1:33:13.760 --> 1:33:14.519
<v Speaker 3>And then.

1:33:16.560 --> 1:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Black the woman, she got twenty three counts because that's

1:33:20.000 --> 1:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>what the judge everyone kept saying, like you're not a victim.

1:33:22.600 --> 1:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>You're truly at the center of all of it, like

1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>even when other people aren't, you are, like you're always there.

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>So she got twenty three counts, jailed for life. And yeah,

1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:32.439
<v Speaker 2>the judge said she was the constant factor in the crimes.

1:33:32.479 --> 1:33:34.919
<v Speaker 2>And she was thirty four years of age when this happened,

1:33:35.640 --> 1:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>so she started like molesting these children at twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't really get why though they aren't all

1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just getting life, Like I don't think these men are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be better people when they get out in

1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty four years.

1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:47.479
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely not.

1:33:47.680 --> 1:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>But you know we've done cases from there like they'll

1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>they'll but here too, they'll like let people out.

1:33:53.600 --> 1:33:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have no idea.

1:33:55.680 --> 1:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>The other six people on trial were cleared, so there

1:33:58.040 --> 1:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>were other people. They were cleared on all charges, and

1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>then one of the other people was cleared on most

1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>charges but found guilty on one and the jury deliberated

1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>for nineteen hours. And yeah, for such a like it

1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:14.160
<v Speaker 2>seems devastating. A huge case, very little details found, and

1:34:14.200 --> 1:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I hope it's just to protect the privacy of the victims. Yeah,

1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and maybe if someone has more information, let me let

1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>me know.

1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:33.840
<v Speaker 6>Oof, All right, well we know that this was a

1:34:33.880 --> 1:34:36.160
<v Speaker 6>bummer of a crime, but we've got a great interview

1:34:36.200 --> 1:34:38.040
<v Speaker 6>for you, so don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Our guest today, Wow, what a get.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, an iconic actor who you may know best

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<v Speaker 1>as Brooke Davis on One Tree Hill or from the

1:34:55.080 --> 1:34:58.679
<v Speaker 1>canon classic John Tucker Muss Die the Anti Men Cannon

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<v Speaker 1>classic John Tucker Muss Die. She's currently a lead on

1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Grey's Anatomy, but you know her best as Detective Aaron

1:35:04.280 --> 1:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay from Chicago p D and this crossover episode of SVU,

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<v Speaker 1>Please enjoy our conversation with the amazing Sophia Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually saw you on the streets two weeks ago

1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>outside of Carnegie Hall.

1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Not to be a creep, but wait.

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<v Speaker 7>Like in the middle of the day on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, you.

1:35:23.400 --> 1:35:25.120
<v Speaker 7>Wan don't know why I know this because I've been

1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:28.400
<v Speaker 7>around the corner at iHeart recording and I had a

1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:31.760
<v Speaker 7>few hours to kill before seeing a friend's play, and

1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:34.919
<v Speaker 7>I was like, I'm just gonna play like restaurant Roulette

1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:37.160
<v Speaker 7>and pick a place on the map that's close to

1:35:37.200 --> 1:35:40.320
<v Speaker 7>here and go kill some time and like answer emails

1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:43.240
<v Speaker 7>while I have a late lunch and walking by Carnegie Hall,

1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:46.479
<v Speaker 7>I saw Alex Edelman's poster and I was like, oh

1:35:46.560 --> 1:35:47.800
<v Speaker 7>my god, I have to send this to him and

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<v Speaker 7>tell him I'm walking by his face. And then I

1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:53.640
<v Speaker 7>looked up and it wasn't you. It was like like

1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:56.400
<v Speaker 7>a teenager who was like and I was like, hey,

1:35:57.040 --> 1:35:59.519
<v Speaker 7>I was having my own fangirl moment. It was like

1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:01.840
<v Speaker 7>so deeply awkward, and I was like, I do know him,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was like I was wondering Alex or Chris Fleming.

1:36:06.680 --> 1:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like both their because I did investigate after

1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw you take the freight.

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<v Speaker 3>So the teen where did the team know you from?

1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it usually One Tree Hills?

1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:36:18.880 --> 1:36:22.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean I think probably, but it's like there's a

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<v Speaker 7>whole One Tree Hill faction. There's a whole like Dick

1:36:25.320 --> 1:36:28.559
<v Speaker 7>Wolf World faction. Yeah, and then there's a whole.

1:36:29.760 --> 1:36:30.360
<v Speaker 3>There's been a.

1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:34.639
<v Speaker 7>Big resurgence, resurgence of John Tucker Must Die.

1:36:35.200 --> 1:36:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's on streaming. I watched it this week.

1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:39.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and I'm like, well, we love that.

1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've watched it a lot, but it was fun

1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to rewatch. Was that fun to do?

1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? We had the best time.

1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:48.000
<v Speaker 7>Brittany and I were together like a month ago when

1:36:48.040 --> 1:36:49.880
<v Speaker 7>I was in LA and we had like a whole

1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:52.400
<v Speaker 7>weekend of work events together and we were just like

1:36:52.439 --> 1:36:56.120
<v Speaker 7>can you believe, like we were babies.

1:36:56.280 --> 1:36:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's so fun that people.

1:36:57.600 --> 1:36:59.880
<v Speaker 7>Still love it because we really loved making it.

1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Brittany's another SVU. I know, got a big app the Earlies.

1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, what was your Dick Wolf Universe relationship before

1:37:11.360 --> 1:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you started on PDS?

1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, so strong?

1:37:15.200 --> 1:37:20.160
<v Speaker 7>You know, like any woman who was in high school

1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:22.839
<v Speaker 7>in the nineties or in college in the early odds,

1:37:22.880 --> 1:37:24.879
<v Speaker 7>Like I was a deep SVU die.

1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Hard Yeah, and it was always like it was such

1:37:27.800 --> 1:37:29.639
<v Speaker 3>a cool experience.

1:37:30.439 --> 1:37:34.639
<v Speaker 7>Knowing that it was a show I loved and really

1:37:34.760 --> 1:37:38.479
<v Speaker 7>just thinking the world of Marishka and then getting to

1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:40.800
<v Speaker 7>go work on it not only for an episode, but

1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:45.360
<v Speaker 7>to overlap for so many seasons and do so many crossovers.

1:37:45.400 --> 1:37:48.639
<v Speaker 7>Like working with her and going to do the SVU

1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:51.920
<v Speaker 7>crossovers was my favorite part of being in that whole

1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:54.120
<v Speaker 7>gigantic universal.

1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:56.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh cool as best.

1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:00.680
<v Speaker 7>The way the way there set runs, and just the

1:38:00.920 --> 1:38:04.360
<v Speaker 7>level of it's so interesting because you walk on a

1:38:04.360 --> 1:38:06.439
<v Speaker 7>set like that and they've obviously been at it for

1:38:06.479 --> 1:38:10.280
<v Speaker 7>so long and it is the It's very similar to

1:38:10.360 --> 1:38:11.120
<v Speaker 7>working on grays.

1:38:11.360 --> 1:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>It is the top tier of.

1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:20.280
<v Speaker 7>Gorgeous professionalism, efficiency, incredible dedication to the work after so

1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:22.439
<v Speaker 7>many years. When you think like somebody here is going

1:38:22.479 --> 1:38:25.439
<v Speaker 7>to be kind of jaded or ungrateful, nobody is. Yeah,

1:38:25.680 --> 1:38:29.160
<v Speaker 7>and they're so frickin good at what they do that

1:38:29.280 --> 1:38:32.040
<v Speaker 7>the amount of fun they have while doing it, like

1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:35.920
<v Speaker 7>I've actually never been on a funnier set, And it's

1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:39.439
<v Speaker 7>crazy to think that because the subject matter is so serious.

1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:42.040
<v Speaker 7>It's also like probably how everyone deals with not being

1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:43.880
<v Speaker 7>completely traumatized when they go home at the end of

1:38:43.880 --> 1:38:47.000
<v Speaker 7>the day with those storylines. But it's like it's actually

1:38:47.040 --> 1:38:50.000
<v Speaker 7>the most joyful and most professional place.

1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:52.760
<v Speaker 3>They've just nailed it. Yeah.

1:38:52.800 --> 1:38:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, and on like a superficial level, I would say

1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:58.519
<v Speaker 2>your hair really matched Marishkas, like you guys went hair

1:38:58.560 --> 1:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>for hair and amazing hair in those episodes.

1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:03.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, thank you. Pretty huge tho.

1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:05.479
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty huge, And I feel like you had the

1:39:05.520 --> 1:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Marishka hair journey where you kind of had a different

1:39:08.040 --> 1:39:09.679
<v Speaker 2>look every season.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob oh totally. Well.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean some of that is just like like when

1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:17.599
<v Speaker 7>I did the Bob and I got in trouble you did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>kind of Nobody really likes when you cut your hair

1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:23.160
<v Speaker 7>on TV. But also like the amount of heat and

1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:26.920
<v Speaker 7>then being out in the freezing weather in Chicago, Like, yeah,

1:39:26.920 --> 1:39:29.519
<v Speaker 7>it's hard on your body. Nobody thinks about what it

1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:31.439
<v Speaker 7>does to the women's hair, and like my hair would

1:39:31.439 --> 1:39:35.320
<v Speaker 7>literally get heat damage and then it would freeze. So truly,

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<v Speaker 7>like when I tell you my hair was just breaking

1:39:37.200 --> 1:39:41.120
<v Speaker 7>off in chunks, like I hadn't even consider that. Yeah,

1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.080
<v Speaker 7>I had to cut like a jaw length bob just

1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:45.439
<v Speaker 7>to start over. There was a point where they tried

1:39:45.479 --> 1:39:48.000
<v Speaker 7>to wig me and then that wasn't working. I mean

1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:50.720
<v Speaker 7>it was the hair. I was like, total, it's a

1:39:50.840 --> 1:39:55.400
<v Speaker 7>wreck in that in that way, but I also wound

1:39:55.479 --> 1:39:57.840
<v Speaker 7>up changing my hair color on the show. This is

1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:00.439
<v Speaker 7>like some of our lore I will never forget. We

1:40:00.520 --> 1:40:03.960
<v Speaker 7>got there and Marina, my dear, my darling.

1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh we just had her on a few Oh my god.

1:40:07.439 --> 1:40:09.800
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So you know Marina plays Burgess and she's just

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<v Speaker 7>the greatest. And the weekend after we started filming PD

1:40:15.439 --> 1:40:19.080
<v Speaker 7>was her wedding and I walked you know, you're when

1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:21.240
<v Speaker 7>you're doing your prep week, you're like in and out

1:40:21.240 --> 1:40:24.479
<v Speaker 7>of training together. You're running around sometimes everyone's together doing

1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:27.080
<v Speaker 7>table reads, and then everyone splits off and goes and

1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:31.000
<v Speaker 7>meets with different departments. And I walked in for my

1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:33.439
<v Speaker 7>my sit down with hair and makeup, and she was

1:40:33.439 --> 1:40:36.800
<v Speaker 7>in the makeup trailer and they were pulling a blonde

1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:40.000
<v Speaker 7>wig on her head. And I looked in the mirror

1:40:40.040 --> 1:40:42.400
<v Speaker 7>and I could see her trying not to sob and

1:40:42.439 --> 1:40:45.479
<v Speaker 7>I was like, what's going on? And they were like, well,

1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:49.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, the two girls on the show. I mean, granted,

1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:51.559
<v Speaker 7>you won't work together a ton because she was a

1:40:51.720 --> 1:40:53.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, in the beginning of Beat Cop and I

1:40:53.280 --> 1:40:56.760
<v Speaker 7>was a detective. But like, they think you guys look

1:40:56.840 --> 1:41:01.360
<v Speaker 7>too much alike because you're both brunettes. And I was like,

1:41:02.800 --> 1:41:05.080
<v Speaker 7>aren't all the boys on the show up? They're like, yeah,

1:41:05.680 --> 1:41:07.840
<v Speaker 7>the boys have brown hair? Like are they getting tips?

1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:10.920
<v Speaker 7>What's going on? And you know, we giggle obviously, but

1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:13.080
<v Speaker 7>this is just the way TV is. You've heard the

1:41:13.080 --> 1:41:16.360
<v Speaker 7>hair stories from one trail, I'm sure, and I was like,

1:41:16.400 --> 1:41:18.920
<v Speaker 7>but we don't. And they were like, yeah, but we're going.

1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:20.120
<v Speaker 3>To change her hair color.

1:41:20.240 --> 1:41:22.759
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, but she's getting married on Friday,

1:41:23.840 --> 1:41:26.599
<v Speaker 7>Like no, And I was like, why don't you guys

1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:29.519
<v Speaker 7>just start to take me blonde? So we started lightening

1:41:29.520 --> 1:41:30.000
<v Speaker 7>my hair.

1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>I noticed the highlights. I did notice.

1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:34.760
<v Speaker 7>Wow, if you notice, like there's highlights in my hair

1:41:34.800 --> 1:41:36.720
<v Speaker 7>in the first episode, and then it gets lighter and

1:41:36.800 --> 1:41:40.360
<v Speaker 7>lighter because they wanted the girls to have different hair color.

1:41:40.439 --> 1:41:42.920
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, you cannot make this woman dye

1:41:42.920 --> 1:41:45.599
<v Speaker 7>her hair blonde four days, five days before her wedding.

1:41:45.640 --> 1:41:46.599
<v Speaker 3>You just can't do that. Wow.

1:41:46.840 --> 1:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just like no offense to like any of your

1:41:49.800 --> 1:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>co stars on these shows. But like the men all

1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:55.559
<v Speaker 1>look a lot alike each other, Like they all not

1:41:55.640 --> 1:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>even just hair. It's like the haircut, the chisel jaw,

1:41:59.479 --> 1:42:01.720
<v Speaker 1>like the where they're like they all look the same.

1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like two women, they're like, why don't

1:42:03.840 --> 1:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we just shave one bald? I cannot tell these two

1:42:05.880 --> 1:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>women apart, Like it makes no Well that would be me.

1:42:09.320 --> 1:42:11.000
<v Speaker 7>I have like a terrible dent in the back of

1:42:11.000 --> 1:42:14.479
<v Speaker 7>my head. So Natalie Portman has it perfectly shaped head.

1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:16.519
<v Speaker 7>She can do the head shaved. Yeah, as we know

1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:19.040
<v Speaker 7>from Viva Vendada. But if we had to do that,

1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:21.000
<v Speaker 7>I think methinks it would not be me.

1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>But like just the way that the men can just

1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>all have the same face and they have to differentiate

1:42:26.439 --> 1:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the woman is like so crazy.

1:42:28.680 --> 1:42:31.200
<v Speaker 7>Well you know though that that comes from like some

1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:36.080
<v Speaker 7>random network, right, like and and look at the end

1:42:36.120 --> 1:42:38.400
<v Speaker 7>of the day, I think, especially when you work with

1:42:38.439 --> 1:42:41.800
<v Speaker 7>great teams, it's like there's a reason Dick Wolf is

1:42:41.840 --> 1:42:45.640
<v Speaker 7>one of the most prolific producers in television history. He

1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:49.320
<v Speaker 7>knows exactly what's worth his focus. You know, he's a

1:42:49.439 --> 1:42:55.639
<v Speaker 7>tremendous creative producer ally like he's a really good egg,

1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:58.879
<v Speaker 7>and I think he's also smart enough to be like, okay,

1:42:59.000 --> 1:43:01.439
<v Speaker 7>executive number four, Like you want to you want to

1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:03.599
<v Speaker 7>earn your salary by sending in a note you want

1:43:03.600 --> 1:43:04.760
<v Speaker 7>to change the hair color?

1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Like whatever. Exactly, it's not really worth the fight.

1:43:09.520 --> 1:43:13.320
<v Speaker 7>But could you imagine having like gorgeous, auburny brunette hair

1:43:13.320 --> 1:43:16.200
<v Speaker 7>and then four days before your wedding being told like

1:43:16.240 --> 1:43:16.680
<v Speaker 7>they're going to.

1:43:16.680 --> 1:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Tear such a man or some friend for being like,

1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll take the blonde for me.

1:43:23.280 --> 1:43:27.040
<v Speaker 7>I volunteers tribute. I did Volunteers Tribute. But also it's

1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:29.880
<v Speaker 7>not like, oh gee, how hard they had to change

1:43:29.920 --> 1:43:30.479
<v Speaker 7>my hair color?

1:43:30.880 --> 1:43:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I know, but you put your hair through a lot

1:43:33.240 --> 1:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, you know, yeah, coloring.

1:43:35.479 --> 1:43:38.599
<v Speaker 7>Granted later it was falling out because it was bleached

1:43:38.720 --> 1:43:40.760
<v Speaker 7>and then heated and then frozen, and then I just

1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:42.360
<v Speaker 7>cut it all off and started over.

1:43:43.120 --> 1:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Is the show like is Chicago as outside as like

1:43:47.280 --> 1:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>SVU and Law.

1:43:47.960 --> 1:43:51.160
<v Speaker 2>And Orders are It's been awesome. What's great about all

1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>of your Chase seams? So I grew up in the

1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:56.599
<v Speaker 2>suburbs and I lived in the in Chicago, and oh

1:43:56.800 --> 1:43:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that you guys get to be an alley's

1:43:59.240 --> 1:44:02.720
<v Speaker 2>and in between buildings and apartments because in New York

1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:06.599
<v Speaker 2>there are no alleys, like there are no there's no

1:44:06.880 --> 1:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>streets that even there's no little sidewalks in between the apartments.

1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Everything is touching, and so I like all the alley

1:44:15.040 --> 1:44:17.759
<v Speaker 2>that's like.

1:44:16.640 --> 1:44:19.240
<v Speaker 7>I mean the technical side when you think about long

1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:24.559
<v Speaker 7>shots step the field. Also, the feeling of fear created

1:44:24.600 --> 1:44:29.640
<v Speaker 7>by not knowing what's around a corner is really I

1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:32.040
<v Speaker 7>think it's why the city of Chicago in a way

1:44:32.160 --> 1:44:35.960
<v Speaker 7>is a character in the universe of those shows, because

1:44:36.000 --> 1:44:41.320
<v Speaker 7>it has such an incredible look and esthetic and vibe

1:44:41.479 --> 1:44:44.920
<v Speaker 7>like it's a very cool place. Less cool when it's

1:44:44.960 --> 1:44:47.560
<v Speaker 7>like thirty below and you're working outside.

1:44:47.800 --> 1:44:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're on like our twelve. But you figure

1:44:52.200 --> 1:44:54.519
<v Speaker 3>it out because s TOVU is like rain or shine.

1:44:54.520 --> 1:44:57.559
<v Speaker 2>No matter what they shoot, is that the Chicago pd

1:44:57.760 --> 1:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>vibe like you're in the side.

1:44:58.800 --> 1:45:01.720
<v Speaker 7>That's how TV is, Like we used to have to

1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:05.880
<v Speaker 7>shoot the the episodes of you know, totally different Universe,

1:45:05.920 --> 1:45:07.840
<v Speaker 7>for example, but the episodes of One Tree Hill that

1:45:07.880 --> 1:45:11.160
<v Speaker 7>would air for spring break, you know, that had to

1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:14.040
<v Speaker 7>actually happen when schools in the us were on spring break.

1:45:14.080 --> 1:45:16.320
<v Speaker 3>We'd have to shoot in February, so it.

1:45:16.280 --> 1:45:19.759
<v Speaker 7>Would be like thirty five degrees and they'd be like, okay, kids,

1:45:19.760 --> 1:45:21.800
<v Speaker 7>getting your bikinis and your board shorts and get in

1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:22.280
<v Speaker 7>the ocean.

1:45:22.760 --> 1:45:25.720
<v Speaker 3>And we were all like, okay.

1:45:26.479 --> 1:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what hair drama on one tree hell? Because I'm

1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:32.639
<v Speaker 2>actually not Yeah, I'd like to oh my god.

1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:34.679
<v Speaker 7>We have so much hair lower e'pisode. Sorry to anyone

1:45:34.720 --> 1:45:36.040
<v Speaker 7>who's listening to this who.

1:45:35.840 --> 1:45:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Knows they're gonna lie.

1:45:37.800 --> 1:45:42.679
<v Speaker 7>I wanted new information. Yeah, it was crazy. Nobody every

1:45:42.760 --> 1:45:45.120
<v Speaker 7>girl had to have different hair color. We were never

1:45:45.160 --> 1:45:50.080
<v Speaker 7>allowed to put our hair up, including doing sports like

1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:54.880
<v Speaker 7>at cheer practice. We weren't allowed to wear ponytails. I

1:45:54.960 --> 1:45:58.400
<v Speaker 7>got told off in the most insane, like expletive laced

1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:00.320
<v Speaker 7>tirade by my boss, who was old enough to be

1:46:00.400 --> 1:46:03.680
<v Speaker 7>my dad when I came back for season three and

1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:05.960
<v Speaker 7>I had bangs that were growing out from a movie

1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:08.320
<v Speaker 7>I'd done. And by the way, my bangs were so cute,

1:46:08.720 --> 1:46:11.200
<v Speaker 7>really unmanageable because I have a terrible calic and it

1:46:11.240 --> 1:46:14.080
<v Speaker 7>turns out like not great to cut bangs when you

1:46:14.120 --> 1:46:17.000
<v Speaker 7>have a you know, a Kelly Slater sized wave on

1:46:17.040 --> 1:46:20.439
<v Speaker 7>the front of your head, in your hairline. But it

1:46:20.600 --> 1:46:25.439
<v Speaker 7>was so dramatic, and eventually I think we all just

1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:27.640
<v Speaker 7>hit a point with our hairdressers where we were like,

1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:30.080
<v Speaker 7>you're stupid. We're not going to listen to you anymore

1:46:30.160 --> 1:46:32.400
<v Speaker 7>to our boss, and we did it and we just

1:46:32.439 --> 1:46:36.000
<v Speaker 7>started doing stuff. But it was like there was a

1:46:36.280 --> 1:46:40.640
<v Speaker 7>literal rule. And it came if you recall from you know,

1:46:40.680 --> 1:46:44.599
<v Speaker 7>the sort of iconic coming of age shows that were

1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:47.600
<v Speaker 7>right ahead of us, it came from Felicity.

1:46:47.920 --> 1:46:53.559
<v Speaker 3>When Carrie Russell on Felicity haircut inside it. That's it.

1:46:54.040 --> 1:46:57.600
<v Speaker 7>It coincided with a ratings drop and everyone blamed the

1:46:57.680 --> 1:47:01.880
<v Speaker 7>hair and then women on those shows were not allowed

1:47:01.920 --> 1:47:06.160
<v Speaker 7>to change their hair for like a decade plus.

1:47:06.560 --> 1:47:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my gosh, did you like your time in Chicago

1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>outside the weather stuff?

1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:15.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, listen, look the the weather's crazy and

1:47:15.720 --> 1:47:18.640
<v Speaker 7>it's also like not that hard. For some reason, there

1:47:18.720 --> 1:47:20.920
<v Speaker 7>was a moment where it got like made into some

1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:23.840
<v Speaker 7>deal where it was like, or is everyone okay? You

1:47:23.880 --> 1:47:26.320
<v Speaker 7>know it's crazy and it's like sad when half your

1:47:26.360 --> 1:47:28.720
<v Speaker 7>crew gets pneumonia and stuff, but like, I don't know,

1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:32.439
<v Speaker 7>it's like you said, the show must go on shining,

1:47:32.640 --> 1:47:35.960
<v Speaker 7>Like we would shoot hurricane episodes of One Tree Hill,

1:47:35.960 --> 1:47:37.720
<v Speaker 7>and we would always do those in the winter as well,

1:47:37.840 --> 1:47:40.400
<v Speaker 7>so I don't know, we're used to it.

1:47:40.320 --> 1:47:40.720
<v Speaker 3>In a way.

1:47:42.320 --> 1:47:48.400
<v Speaker 7>I really loved getting to learn from our writers. I

1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:51.360
<v Speaker 7>really loved getting to learn from Dick Wolf, and I

1:47:51.479 --> 1:47:55.120
<v Speaker 7>really loved getting to be around the SVU world. You know,

1:47:55.479 --> 1:47:59.240
<v Speaker 7>everything has built I think, out of that legacy, and

1:47:59.280 --> 1:48:02.920
<v Speaker 7>there are just things they do so well there. It's

1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:05.120
<v Speaker 7>it's pretty incredible to get to see inside of it.

1:48:05.600 --> 1:48:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I will never forget one episode we

1:48:09.120 --> 1:48:10.080
<v Speaker 3>were doing. We're rehearsing.

1:48:10.080 --> 1:48:12.040
<v Speaker 7>We're all standing around with our sides, figuring out how

1:48:12.040 --> 1:48:14.920
<v Speaker 7>we're going to block the scene, and I like, look

1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:18.080
<v Speaker 7>up and Kelly Giddish has had this great idea and

1:48:18.520 --> 1:48:21.320
<v Speaker 7>Iced teas agreeing, and and Marishka's got a thought about

1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:23.360
<v Speaker 7>the next page. And I'm just like watching them and

1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:26.519
<v Speaker 7>I was like, what the fuck is my life? Like

1:48:26.600 --> 1:48:28.800
<v Speaker 7>I've watched you guys on TV for so long, and

1:48:28.840 --> 1:48:32.479
<v Speaker 7>I know I'm also on TV. But it's like a

1:48:32.600 --> 1:48:35.040
<v Speaker 7>crazy experience when you've I'm wearing.

1:48:34.800 --> 1:48:35.720
<v Speaker 3>My icedy sweatshirt.

1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:42.080
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's a crazy and then you're you're in it.

1:48:42.439 --> 1:48:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah cool.

1:48:44.560 --> 1:48:47.080
<v Speaker 7>How did you guys get so obsessed? Like, obviously this

1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:51.000
<v Speaker 7>podcast is huge. Obviously everyone in the world loves SVU.

1:48:51.240 --> 1:48:54.000
<v Speaker 7>How did you come to do this.

1:48:54.680 --> 1:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>So we But I mean I just always watched it,

1:48:57.439 --> 1:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, I don't even remember because Kara watched

1:48:59.880 --> 1:49:02.519
<v Speaker 2>it week by week, new episode, new episode as like

1:49:03.040 --> 1:49:03.599
<v Speaker 2>growing up.

1:49:04.040 --> 1:49:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that.

1:49:05.040 --> 1:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>But I was just watching chunks USA Network USA Now

1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>We're marathons, you know, were really and it was Yeah,

1:49:12.720 --> 1:49:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it was like just the only show where I could

1:49:14.400 --> 1:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>just watch episodes over and over again, and it always

1:49:17.120 --> 1:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>felt kind of like still fun to watch. Like I

1:49:18.920 --> 1:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>don't really I don't really repeat movies I've seen, I

1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:24.360
<v Speaker 1>mean some, but like you know, I'm not like a

1:49:24.360 --> 1:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>real repeat or I don't reread books I've read.

1:49:26.479 --> 1:49:29.920
<v Speaker 3>But SVU, for some reason, it's like so rewatchable. I

1:49:29.960 --> 1:49:31.280
<v Speaker 3>know it really is, right.

1:49:31.360 --> 1:49:35.000
<v Speaker 7>I have this visceral sense memory and I know that

1:49:35.080 --> 1:49:39.600
<v Speaker 7>it was season two of One Tree Hill because I

1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:41.439
<v Speaker 7>had moved and it's like right when I was in

1:49:41.479 --> 1:49:44.000
<v Speaker 7>my new place and it must have been a Sunday,

1:49:44.479 --> 1:49:47.479
<v Speaker 7>and I just remember I can see myself walking around

1:49:47.479 --> 1:49:49.759
<v Speaker 7>my bedroom and then out and then back in doing

1:49:49.880 --> 1:49:53.320
<v Speaker 7>loads of laundry and folding laundry and like all my sort.

1:49:53.160 --> 1:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Of Sunday chores.

1:49:54.439 --> 1:49:57.639
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and there was an SVU marathon on all day

1:49:57.720 --> 1:50:00.479
<v Speaker 7>on the TV in my bedroom and it's like, yeah,

1:50:00.479 --> 1:50:02.040
<v Speaker 7>it just becomes part of your life.

1:50:02.640 --> 1:50:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I learned a lot and I care about

1:50:04.800 --> 1:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the subject matter. I think we both do. And then

1:50:07.200 --> 1:50:10.559
<v Speaker 2>when we first met over a decade ago, we bonded

1:50:10.560 --> 1:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and I told her about a Twitter account that would

1:50:12.160 --> 1:50:14.160
<v Speaker 2>tweet anytime a Law and Order was on any channel

1:50:14.200 --> 1:50:16.640
<v Speaker 2>in what episode, and like how to find it? And

1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:20.200
<v Speaker 2>then yeah, it was called Donk Doink. And then years

1:50:20.280 --> 1:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>later Kara was like, I have an idea. Would you

1:50:22.320 --> 1:50:22.840
<v Speaker 2>want to do this?

1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:25.439
<v Speaker 3>And I went yeah, yeah.

1:50:25.479 --> 1:50:27.759
<v Speaker 2>And what's cool is we deep dive on the crime

1:50:28.160 --> 1:50:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and then recap, but then getting to talk to actors

1:50:31.680 --> 1:50:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and people from the show. It's just really inspiring and

1:50:34.840 --> 1:50:37.280
<v Speaker 2>cool and we learned. It's I'm glad she came up

1:50:37.280 --> 1:50:38.760
<v Speaker 2>with the format because it could have just been a

1:50:38.800 --> 1:50:42.320
<v Speaker 2>recap podcast, which and now we just get to learn

1:50:42.360 --> 1:50:42.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

1:50:42.720 --> 1:50:43.559
<v Speaker 3>We've learned a lot.

1:50:43.840 --> 1:50:47.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, I think look, I mean recap podcasts are great.

1:50:47.479 --> 1:50:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we love it.

1:50:48.840 --> 1:50:51.840
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes when I'm like doing research at four am

1:50:51.920 --> 1:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>on a Monday.

1:50:52.400 --> 1:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh my god, this nightmare. But why didn't

1:50:54.960 --> 1:50:56.599
<v Speaker 3>we just rewatch it? No?

1:50:56.680 --> 1:50:59.439
<v Speaker 7>But I think to your point, because of what the

1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:04.920
<v Speaker 7>subject is, you have the opportunity to not only really

1:51:05.040 --> 1:51:07.560
<v Speaker 7>enjoy looking back at something, but you have the opportunity

1:51:07.600 --> 1:51:10.559
<v Speaker 7>to learn and to teach, and to create space for

1:51:10.680 --> 1:51:16.320
<v Speaker 7>conversation that is not necessarily typical but very necessary. And

1:51:16.360 --> 1:51:20.280
<v Speaker 7>I think about it, especially when when you consider the

1:51:20.320 --> 1:51:24.640
<v Speaker 7>historical arc of a show like this. These were not

1:51:24.960 --> 1:51:28.479
<v Speaker 7>conversations anyone was willing to have. No one was talking

1:51:28.520 --> 1:51:31.400
<v Speaker 7>about sexual violence, no one was talking about exploitation, no

1:51:31.400 --> 1:51:35.559
<v Speaker 7>one was talking about human trafficking, like and this exists

1:51:35.600 --> 1:51:38.720
<v Speaker 7>in the world around us all the time, everywhere, in

1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:44.040
<v Speaker 7>any place, and it's so unbelievable when you think about

1:51:44.160 --> 1:51:48.920
<v Speaker 7>what the show has done for our cultural understanding.

1:51:49.960 --> 1:51:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we say they were ahead of their time, But

1:51:52.160 --> 1:51:54.600
<v Speaker 2>then what's also sad is how relevant some of the

1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>old episodes still are.

1:51:56.360 --> 1:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we'll do, Like a season one episode like, wow,

1:52:00.600 --> 1:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this is still a pretty bad issue and it's been

1:52:03.120 --> 1:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years or whatever.

1:52:05.320 --> 1:52:08.920
<v Speaker 7>So I mean, I think about a crossover episode that

1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:13.200
<v Speaker 7>we did, and it was in season two of PD,

1:52:15.400 --> 1:52:19.680
<v Speaker 7>and it was a really hard crossover to shoot. But

1:52:19.760 --> 1:52:25.600
<v Speaker 7>the whole thing moved around the exploitation of children and

1:52:25.680 --> 1:52:29.479
<v Speaker 7>the trafficking of children and what happens when those children

1:52:29.560 --> 1:52:32.000
<v Speaker 7>age out. And one of the children who aged out

1:52:32.080 --> 1:52:33.559
<v Speaker 7>was my character's half brother.

1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an episode that we're attaching this interview too

1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>A great yeah, like so, and it's like, well.

1:52:39.760 --> 1:52:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Teddy the guy who played Teddy, I mean that was

1:52:42.560 --> 1:52:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a real perform I was going to say, I didn't

1:52:44.800 --> 1:52:45.760
<v Speaker 2>feel to be in the room with.

1:52:45.760 --> 1:52:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Who is that?

1:52:46.760 --> 1:52:50.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And we'd known each other for so long. Wow,

1:52:51.280 --> 1:52:53.479
<v Speaker 7>Like back in my early twenties, like I had the

1:52:54.000 --> 1:52:56.720
<v Speaker 7>sweetest boyfriend at the time, who, like him and his

1:52:56.720 --> 1:52:57.799
<v Speaker 7>wife are still homies.

1:52:57.800 --> 1:52:58.280
<v Speaker 3>They lived like.

1:52:58.280 --> 1:53:01.840
<v Speaker 7>Two doors down from my best friend, and we all

1:53:01.960 --> 1:53:05.000
<v Speaker 7>used to like run around la at twenty four together.

1:53:06.400 --> 1:53:08.840
<v Speaker 7>And then you know, cut to almost ten years later,

1:53:08.880 --> 1:53:10.720
<v Speaker 7>we're working together on a show and we were like

1:53:10.800 --> 1:53:12.920
<v Speaker 7>what the hell, Like this is the best and also,

1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:15.599
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, this is so sad and awful.

1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>It's such a tough episode.

1:53:18.000 --> 1:53:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, also though your character was really good

1:53:21.640 --> 1:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>at like coming in and giving us like because we've

1:53:24.760 --> 1:53:28.240
<v Speaker 1>seen other child trafficking ring episodes. It's always awful, but

1:53:28.320 --> 1:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it was like your character like kind of giving us

1:53:31.120 --> 1:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this way in of like this can kind of happen

1:53:33.960 --> 1:53:37.519
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people who just sort of keep

1:53:37.640 --> 1:53:39.720
<v Speaker 1>take their eye off of somebody for a little while,

1:53:39.800 --> 1:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>or lose touch with a family member, and like, look

1:53:42.040 --> 1:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>how far they can like sync into these you know,

1:53:45.760 --> 1:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not trying to say subculture, but they

1:53:47.800 --> 1:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>could sink into this like life of crime and like tralla, these.

1:53:53.000 --> 1:53:56.800
<v Speaker 7>Kind of underground syndicates, if you will. Yeah, and it's

1:53:56.880 --> 1:53:59.800
<v Speaker 7>it's fair. It's got a centrifical force, right, somebody gets

1:54:00.479 --> 1:54:02.240
<v Speaker 7>and it's incredibly hard to get out.

1:54:02.439 --> 1:54:03.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think it's what we're.

1:54:03.400 --> 1:54:08.559
<v Speaker 7>Seeing as the plethora of Epstein documents is gone through

1:54:08.640 --> 1:54:12.200
<v Speaker 7>and made public. You know, you see these things and

1:54:12.240 --> 1:54:16.360
<v Speaker 7>you see the way power structures deny the realities that

1:54:16.760 --> 1:54:20.360
<v Speaker 7>they know of and are participating in. And it's really

1:54:22.080 --> 1:54:24.320
<v Speaker 7>it's kind of soul crushing to me that something we

1:54:24.360 --> 1:54:27.200
<v Speaker 7>did so long ago is playing out on the world

1:54:27.240 --> 1:54:30.320
<v Speaker 7>stage right now. And it's soul crushing to know how

1:54:30.320 --> 1:54:32.560
<v Speaker 7>long it's played out on the world stage, whether it's

1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:34.320
<v Speaker 7>had a spotlight or not.

1:54:35.120 --> 1:54:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering you had, like such a sweet little

1:54:37.000 --> 1:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>relationship with that girl your character did with the girl

1:54:40.800 --> 1:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>in that episode who they find earlier, and it's like

1:54:44.600 --> 1:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>what we've seen Olivia Benson do many times obviously before,

1:54:48.480 --> 1:54:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know how often did your character on

1:54:51.280 --> 1:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Chicago ped ever get to like sort of connect with

1:54:55.600 --> 1:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like young victims like that. It felt like it was

1:54:57.400 --> 1:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like your little Olivia Benson moment in that.

1:55:00.960 --> 1:55:03.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was a special thing to get to do.

1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:08.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, I think not as often for Aaron because

1:55:08.400 --> 1:55:13.160
<v Speaker 7>we were just like straight intelligence, you know, we weren't

1:55:13.920 --> 1:55:18.040
<v Speaker 7>a sex crimes unit, we were not as view. But

1:55:18.520 --> 1:55:25.840
<v Speaker 7>those overlaps I think felt particularly personal for me. You know,

1:55:26.640 --> 1:55:30.080
<v Speaker 7>I love being around kids in general, and especially making

1:55:30.120 --> 1:55:33.960
<v Speaker 7>sure they feel safe on set, and that probably goes

1:55:34.000 --> 1:55:36.400
<v Speaker 7>back to like growing up at summer camp and being

1:55:36.400 --> 1:55:39.440
<v Speaker 7>a camp counselor and you know, doing all of those

1:55:39.480 --> 1:55:44.840
<v Speaker 7>things that were really important to my own development and

1:55:44.920 --> 1:55:52.520
<v Speaker 7>like my childhood. But for me, those episodes really always

1:55:52.560 --> 1:56:00.920
<v Speaker 7>felt the most powerful special as an advocate, as someone

1:56:01.000 --> 1:56:05.520
<v Speaker 7>who's shown up to try to in whatever way each

1:56:05.600 --> 1:56:10.600
<v Speaker 7>individual person can in their life make certain circumstances better

1:56:10.640 --> 1:56:16.720
<v Speaker 7>for other people, you know, offer voice, offer platform. Those

1:56:18.040 --> 1:56:22.920
<v Speaker 7>those opportunities on screen were always the extra special ones

1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:26.360
<v Speaker 7>for me because they they connected things that I care

1:56:26.400 --> 1:56:28.480
<v Speaker 7>about so much as an individual that I get to

1:56:28.520 --> 1:56:31.280
<v Speaker 7>bring that to a character and I get to kind

1:56:31.320 --> 1:56:35.600
<v Speaker 7>of marry all of that emotion on screen, and it

1:56:35.280 --> 1:56:38.400
<v Speaker 7>it's like a It's one of those things where it

1:56:38.400 --> 1:56:41.000
<v Speaker 7>doesn't just feel like one plus one, you know, equals

1:56:41.040 --> 1:56:42.920
<v Speaker 7>to It's like a one plus one is three all

1:56:42.960 --> 1:56:45.440
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden, it's like a it's like a multiplier

1:56:45.560 --> 1:56:49.960
<v Speaker 7>instead of just an just an additive part of the journey.

1:56:50.000 --> 1:56:53.840
<v Speaker 7>And I still don't take any of that lately.

1:56:53.600 --> 1:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1:56:54.640 --> 1:56:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you've been a doctor and a defective.

1:56:58.680 --> 1:56:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I have what.

1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you prefer one?

1:57:05.320 --> 1:57:11.480
<v Speaker 7>It's really interesting. I love both. I will say hospital

1:57:11.520 --> 1:57:14.040
<v Speaker 7>shows are gorge because you get to be inside a lot.

1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like about our case, Oh you're like ooh a

1:57:17.680 --> 1:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>nice warm hospital ward.

1:57:19.960 --> 1:57:23.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, there's nothing like you know, getting injured

1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:25.240
<v Speaker 7>doing stunts on the ice and having to go to

1:57:25.280 --> 1:57:27.040
<v Speaker 7>the hospital to get a cat scan and you're just

1:57:27.080 --> 1:57:31.680
<v Speaker 7>like what is being like, Wow, the er is so

1:57:32.040 --> 1:57:34.360
<v Speaker 7>warm and everyone is happy.

1:57:35.360 --> 1:57:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, you mentioned the training that you it was it

1:57:38.800 --> 1:57:42.400
<v Speaker 2>consist So you guys were consistently training probably, or did

1:57:42.440 --> 1:57:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you learn a lot and then start out did that?

1:57:44.760 --> 1:57:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I had.

1:57:46.200 --> 1:57:49.520
<v Speaker 7>I had done you know, some stunt training and things

1:57:49.560 --> 1:57:52.040
<v Speaker 7>for movies and things before. And you know, my dad

1:57:52.080 --> 1:57:54.000
<v Speaker 7>grew up in Canada. Like I got my first gun

1:57:54.000 --> 1:57:56.600
<v Speaker 7>for my twelfth birthday. So it's also really funny that

1:57:56.640 --> 1:57:59.040
<v Speaker 7>people are like, oh, these liberals are trying to take

1:57:59.080 --> 1:58:01.960
<v Speaker 7>our guns away. I'm like, no, I'm very pro gun control. Yeah,

1:58:02.000 --> 1:58:06.800
<v Speaker 7>because I'm an expert gun owner. Are y'all good? So cool?

1:58:06.840 --> 1:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I really want to learn how to shoot a gun?

1:58:09.000 --> 1:58:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah? Oh my god.

1:58:10.120 --> 1:58:13.080
<v Speaker 7>When when Stephen COLLETTI came to work on One Tree Hill,

1:58:13.080 --> 1:58:17.360
<v Speaker 7>he was like so nervous and scared and like I

1:58:17.440 --> 1:58:19.960
<v Speaker 7>was going to be the first actor he had, you know,

1:58:20.600 --> 1:58:22.800
<v Speaker 7>had a relationship with on screen. And I was like,

1:58:22.840 --> 1:58:24.240
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to take you out to do like the

1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:26.280
<v Speaker 7>browiest thing ever. And I took him to the shooting

1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:28.320
<v Speaker 7>range to teach him how to shoot a gun, and

1:58:28.360 --> 1:58:30.480
<v Speaker 7>he was just like, what is happening here? I was like,

1:58:30.520 --> 1:58:34.720
<v Speaker 7>We're good, and you know I can make out on TV? Yeah,

1:58:34.760 --> 1:58:36.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean and that's like one of the things we

1:58:36.680 --> 1:58:38.680
<v Speaker 7>laugh about, like, you know, now he's hung out with

1:58:38.680 --> 1:58:40.560
<v Speaker 7>my partner and he's like, yeah, in hindsight, that was

1:58:40.680 --> 1:58:44.000
<v Speaker 7>so gay, and I'm just like, oh my god, I

1:58:44.080 --> 1:58:46.560
<v Speaker 7>die for us and our wacky like you know, twenty

1:58:46.640 --> 1:58:50.320
<v Speaker 7>years of being friends. But it's like, luckily I had

1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:54.080
<v Speaker 7>enough proficiency in that space that I felt really comfortable

1:58:54.720 --> 1:58:56.880
<v Speaker 7>that instead of feeling like I had a lot to

1:58:57.040 --> 1:58:59.480
<v Speaker 7>learn in terms of the basics, it was like, oh,

1:58:59.480 --> 1:59:02.520
<v Speaker 7>I know all the basics, like I know how to work, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know how to use all these weapons.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, what's the specific training, Like what does it mean

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<v Speaker 7>to bound through buildings and teams?

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<v Speaker 3>What are what are the.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, signals that you use? And how do you

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<v Speaker 7>move silently when you can't necessarily see everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>And like what you know?

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<v Speaker 7>It just was so technical to train with SWAT and

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<v Speaker 7>so fun. And it's like that's the thing, Like somebody recently,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, brought me something that was in that world again,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was like, ooh, it's definitely like it's not

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<v Speaker 7>a no for me. If it's the right project, It's

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<v Speaker 7>it's always going to be one of the things I

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<v Speaker 7>love the most, just because I like the technicality and

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<v Speaker 7>the physicality of it. And then my nerdy brain that

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<v Speaker 7>is obsessed with science is like, you mean, my job

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<v Speaker 7>could be to learn everything about a medical specialty that

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<v Speaker 7>I possibly can, Like, okay, I love all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your doctor's specialty?

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<v Speaker 7>Cardiothoracic surgery, which is crazy because I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 7>a heart surgeon when I was a kid, and so

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<v Speaker 7>it was this very full circle journey. And on Good Sam,

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<v Speaker 7>I was a cardiothoracic surgeon, and on Grey's Anatomy, I

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<v Speaker 7>play a trauma surgeon, so I get to do a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit of everything and it's really really fun. And

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<v Speaker 7>the first surgery that I did on Grays, I walked

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<v Speaker 7>in and the medical tech was like, okay, here's how

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<v Speaker 7>and like you know, I pick up the tools and

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<v Speaker 7>we start doing stuff and he was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 7>I forgot You've already done this the best day for me,

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<v Speaker 7>like you know this stuff already and we were just

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<v Speaker 7>cackling and we had so much fun, you know, putting

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<v Speaker 7>together one of those iconic all the surgeons around the table,

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<v Speaker 7>like my character Cass Beckman is standing looking at Richard

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<v Speaker 7>Webber and again very much like playing Aaron Lindsay. Looking

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<v Speaker 7>at Olivia Benson, I was like, what is my life? Like,

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<v Speaker 7>I've watched you forever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so fun. Did you you wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 3>since you were a kid. Yeah? No, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I wanted to be a doctor. I I had

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<v Speaker 7>no sights on this. And then I had an arts

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<v Speaker 7>requirement in school and I had to do a play

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<v Speaker 7>and I thought I was really smart and figured out

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<v Speaker 7>how to get out of it, and I left. There

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<v Speaker 7>were four semesters of arts requirements for me at my

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<v Speaker 7>middle in high school, and I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 7>I've nailed it because I'm just going to leave the

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<v Speaker 7>play to the same semester that I'm on the volleyball team,

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<v Speaker 7>and then obviously I won't be able to do the

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<v Speaker 7>play because I'll be playing volleyball. And I remember the

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<v Speaker 7>headmistress of my school being like, that's a you problem.

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<v Speaker 7>You didn't plan your time well. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>what is this version of accountability? I was on the

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<v Speaker 7>like I really thought I had cracked the code, and

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<v Speaker 7>I did a play and then had I mean, God,

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<v Speaker 7>this is so embarrassing you guys, Like people assume that

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<v Speaker 7>if you do what I do for a living. You're

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<v Speaker 7>like cool, and I'm just the I am like such

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<v Speaker 7>a nerd, and I know people say that, but like,

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<v Speaker 7>clearly you're learning that I mean it. I did my

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<v Speaker 7>first play and had this out of body aha moment

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<v Speaker 7>where I was like, wait, plays or books come to life.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I started doing research on what, well, like,

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<v Speaker 7>where does theater come from? Why were the Greeks so

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<v Speaker 7>into it? I need to understand why this was so important,

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<v Speaker 7>because I was looking at this as very frivolous, said,

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<v Speaker 7>with all the love she knows the story, she won't

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<v Speaker 7>be offended. My best friend from middle school and high school, Betsy,

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<v Speaker 7>was like classic theater kid, like singing in vibrado in

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<v Speaker 7>the hallways, you know, was a madrigal. Like that's just

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<v Speaker 7>like my bad yeah, and I was like, that's her thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I was like, I must understand why this

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<v Speaker 7>feels so important, like in my bones. And then I

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<v Speaker 7>started nerding out on the fact that even before there

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<v Speaker 7>was written language, we had that the practice of passing

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<v Speaker 7>down stories and performance, whether it was around a campfire

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<v Speaker 7>or in an amphitheater like theater, led to language being written.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I was like this, This is so profound

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<v Speaker 7>for people, This is so this is important for us,

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<v Speaker 7>and I love this and it's a legacy and it's

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<v Speaker 7>a thing. I get to be like a teeny tiny

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<v Speaker 7>little part of the in the landscape of humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was in eighth grade, Are we okay? Just so,

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<v Speaker 3>the longest diary entry of all time? Ah? Really?

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<v Speaker 7>Like I think I wrote a whole journal about it.

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<v Speaker 7>It had blue flowers on it, so embarrassing, but I

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<v Speaker 7>just got obsessed. And then I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 7>until probably my senior year in high school that I

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<v Speaker 7>really thought about taking it seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a play at.

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<v Speaker 7>My school that was, I guess like sort of controversial

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<v Speaker 7>for a high school and it got this little right

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<v Speaker 7>up in the La Times, and a manager came to

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<v Speaker 7>see it and was like, you should be an actor

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<v Speaker 7>and you shouldn't leave California to go to college. I

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<v Speaker 7>want to start sending you out on auditions. And then

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, how do I tell my parents I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to go to theater school instead of medical school?

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<v Speaker 3>How's this going to go over?

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<v Speaker 7>And I just went for it, and then I wound up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Oh, so, how did your parents react?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they were not thrilled.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, my dad is an artist. And I found out

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<v Speaker 7>many years later that my mom was like.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your fault.

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<v Speaker 7>You turned your hobby into a career. Now she thinks

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<v Speaker 7>she can do it too. Is this a nightmare? And

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<v Speaker 7>my dad was like Maureen, like she's way too like

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<v Speaker 7>embarrassingly smart.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna hate this. I give it a year.

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<v Speaker 7>And the irony is I used a monologue from denial

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<v Speaker 7>to audition for the BFA theater class at USC was

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<v Speaker 7>one of fourteen people who got accepted. And within a

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<v Speaker 7>year I was like, I think there's just I like

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<v Speaker 7>it here, but I need to study also other things.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't do just this in the black box, like

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<v Speaker 7>I want to pull my hair out. And I wound

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<v Speaker 7>up transferring into the journalism school, shifting my BFA into

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<v Speaker 7>a theater minor, and I was studying journalism and political

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<v Speaker 7>science and that trifecta was what just like lit me

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<v Speaker 7>up as a student. And I think it was the

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<v Speaker 7>journalism study that particularly helped me with advocacy and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>work on progressive causes and women's rights and gender issues

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<v Speaker 7>and all the rest of it. And frankly, like really

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<v Speaker 7>set me up to love this world, you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>stories told in the world of an SVU, the stories

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<v Speaker 7>told you know, in the world of a hospital, Like

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<v Speaker 7>I really care about real people's stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And it puts you in a perfect place to be

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<v Speaker 3>a podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like as well, that's like a really good

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<v Speaker 1>getting some guests podcast. Yeah, you guys recently had Monica

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<v Speaker 1>Lewinsky exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>Did it's been a big It's been a big year,

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<v Speaker 7>Michelle Obama, Kamala Ownsky vice president, Kamala Harris. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 7>like it's been pretty incredib amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to get you back on Would you go

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<v Speaker 1>back on SVU? As like, as like do a little I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got on SVU.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go back now it's not Aaron Lindsay. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that would be too distracting. No, I wouldn't come

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<v Speaker 1>to did you come back? I could as a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes back.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying, like my my character could go Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 7>would have to be Aaron because she went into the

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<v Speaker 7>FBI or something, right, Yes, that's what I mean. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I think certain characters, I'm okay if they come back,

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<v Speaker 7>but you can't come back as like your character was

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<v Speaker 7>just made too much big of an impact to come

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<v Speaker 7>back and be like, Hi, my name is Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>We also wouldn't I wouldn't want to. I loved playing her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you can have a little revisit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we need we need you and Benson act.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, Marishka and I just have so much fun together.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like cutie pie.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I wanted to ask about your void character and

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<v Speaker 2>how it's fun to be as incredible. Yeah, how is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And you have like yourself as an action figure.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's the most fun. I have the what are

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<v Speaker 7>they called, the like pop pop them?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, funds. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like no, I'm thinking like my my six year

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<v Speaker 7>old brain was like a poppet and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 7>those are so fun. And I have some of the sketches.

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<v Speaker 7>I had the best time doing that. I mean, Pixar

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<v Speaker 7>is it's that for me. It's it's like my happiest

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<v Speaker 7>place on Earth. Don't get me wrong. I love Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 7>but to go in there and be part of these

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<v Speaker 7>incredible stories, I just love it. I love the world

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<v Speaker 7>of animation, I love magic, I love the idea of superheroes.

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<v Speaker 7>And there's also something so cool about getting to play

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<v Speaker 7>a superhero in your pajamas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I would, by the way, any any time, any day,

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<v Speaker 7>Like pour me into a suit and put me on

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<v Speaker 7>a wire and let me fly around like. I would

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<v Speaker 7>love nothing more but to not have to be like

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<v Speaker 7>molded into spandex to give you like more muscles than

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<v Speaker 7>you have and be, you know, sweating, but also have

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<v Speaker 7>to look gorgeous somehow and act like you're not sweating,

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<v Speaker 7>and act like you can go to the bathroom. Like

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<v Speaker 7>to play the superhero in my pjs was.

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<v Speaker 3>So fun and funny, and.

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<v Speaker 7>It it's like a really amazing return to your inner

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<v Speaker 7>child in some way. It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're in some huge universes. Yeah, wow, really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I hadn't thought about it like that. How

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<v Speaker 3>you're crushing it? Well, thanks, Well, what I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 3>had you for so long, But I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I had noticed that you directed some episodes of One

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<v Speaker 2>Tree Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, would you do that again? Was that fast? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 7>I loved it, and I think it was a really

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<v Speaker 7>cool thing. You know, so many years into working on

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<v Speaker 7>a show, when you get to helmet in that way.

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<v Speaker 7>It magnified my love for this job. My love for

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<v Speaker 7>our set, for my fellow castmates, our crew. Like, it's

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<v Speaker 7>such a cool creative endeavor and it has changed me

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<v Speaker 7>for the better as an actor ever since. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I meet with my department heads all the time. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>always in the corner with like camera department figuring things out.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I love the technicality of it, and directing really

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<v Speaker 7>gave that to me in the most fun way. It

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<v Speaker 7>was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think maybe they'll let you direct to Grace?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh gosh, there is such a long line to direct

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<v Speaker 7>on Grays. I have to say, like, hats off today, Allen.

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<v Speaker 7>Every time I get to set, there's another actor there

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<v Speaker 7>shadowing her. She puts people through a really incredible program,

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<v Speaker 7>which I'm definitely curious about. And yeah, it's it's so

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<v Speaker 7>much fun. The last episode of Grays, oh no, the

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<v Speaker 7>second to last episode of Grays I did. I guess uh,

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<v Speaker 7>Kim Raver directed and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the.

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<v Speaker 7>First episode of Grace I did, Kevin mckitt might have

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<v Speaker 7>been directing or the second, Oh my god, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's really fun to be directed by the actors

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<v Speaker 7>on that show. And I do think there's something really

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<v Speaker 7>special about actors who wind up directing. It creates just

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<v Speaker 7>like an energy on set with your coworkers. It's really special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've seen because Mariushka is down at a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of times.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel again, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some we've talked to people that have been directed

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<v Speaker 1>by her and it seems like it's a cool Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another level.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean even to be a scene partner with her.

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<v Speaker 7>She is inherent currently, so creative and knows that world

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<v Speaker 7>literally better than anyone. So she's an incredible team leader.

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<v Speaker 7>And then when she's actually in the director's chair, like,

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<v Speaker 7>come on, you can't get better than that?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Where can our listeners find you? What's net?

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<v Speaker 6>Like? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Yeah? So many fun things? Yeah, projects?

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<v Speaker 3>What's coming up? Yeah, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 7>I can tell you guys because the press release just

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<v Speaker 7>dropped today. Uh, Lauren Holly and I have a film

2:11:32.000 --> 2:11:36.240
<v Speaker 7>coming out called broad Trip. We star in it together.

2:11:36.360 --> 2:11:39.640
<v Speaker 7>I executive produced it. It's gonna be on Roku. It

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<v Speaker 7>was like the most exciting thing to get into the

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<v Speaker 7>sauce with. You know, one of the fastest growing streamers

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<v Speaker 7>in the world right now, and I have the most

2:11:49.160 --> 2:11:53.400
<v Speaker 7>wonderful time it's like a nineties era nostalgic rom com.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absent.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Lauren Holly is like a huge part of

2:11:56.960 --> 2:11:57.680
<v Speaker 1>my childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I'm imagine going to work and Lauren Holly's playing

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<v Speaker 7>your mom.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean picket Fences. That's like a huge show for me.

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<v Speaker 7>She is just such a thrill And it's her and

2:12:09.600 --> 2:12:13.480
<v Speaker 7>myself and Steve Guttenberg, who very so I thought he

2:12:13.600 --> 2:12:17.840
<v Speaker 7>was like, no, he answered every question I had about

2:12:17.880 --> 2:12:22.520
<v Speaker 7>three men and a baby sweet angel. Yeah, we just

2:12:22.600 --> 2:12:23.800
<v Speaker 7>we had the time of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is going to give all the nineties kids

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<v Speaker 1>a real a real.

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<v Speaker 3>Fell you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I got started doing comedy and so to go back

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<v Speaker 7>to my roots and to do something that's just so

2:12:36.280 --> 2:12:38.120
<v Speaker 7>much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we've worked on something like you're like on

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<v Speaker 2>a game show network Lie Detector, Like you're like over

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<v Speaker 2>a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like, yes, cool, David and I are in

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<v Speaker 1>a mom text thread together in la Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell.

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<v Speaker 7>You we're just together today. She is so tremendous. Her

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<v Speaker 7>writing is so great. I can't wait for people to

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<v Speaker 7>see this movie. And yeah, my podcast like we said,

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<v Speaker 7>kick in guests are crushing.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't into my life.

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<v Speaker 7>You can listen to Work in Progress anywhere you listen

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<v Speaker 7>to podcasts, And I'm leaving to shoot another movie that

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about yet

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<v Speaker 7>on January second.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you're working, you're doing things, and you

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<v Speaker 1>and people can get both of your podcasts, right, Drama

2:13:31.720 --> 2:13:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Drama Queens and yes, the Working Progress wherever you get

2:13:36.640 --> 2:13:37.680
<v Speaker 1>pods anywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>Truly everything.

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<v Speaker 2>She really was, so my manager, or so I text

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<v Speaker 2>my manager, Brittany. I wrote, love Sophia Bush, and then

2:13:51.280 --> 2:13:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Brittany writes, is she as iconic as she seems? And

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote even more and then Brittany wrote insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah she was.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's it's cool because she's an iconic actress, she's famous,

2:14:05.080 --> 2:14:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but she's also a podcaster, so she like knows how

2:14:07.920 --> 2:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to like be good in conversation, Like she's just a

2:14:10.800 --> 2:14:15.200
<v Speaker 1>good conversationalist because she's doing it herself multiple times a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very famous, I mean, and like I like her

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<v Speaker 2>joy her like happiness and doing the work and like

2:14:23.560 --> 2:14:26.880
<v Speaker 2>all the people around her, it seems Yeah, she like

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<v Speaker 2>likes her laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, am I starting to listen to her

2:14:29.600 --> 2:14:31.880
<v Speaker 1>podcast because she did talk to Monica Lewinsky and she

2:14:32.160 --> 2:14:34.120
<v Speaker 1>has talked to Kamala and she's got like all these

2:14:34.160 --> 2:14:37.400
<v Speaker 1>big guests, so no, so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I love talking to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that she's like done so much in her career

2:14:42.720 --> 2:14:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and she's like working with Marishka Tippity top towards the

2:14:46.240 --> 2:14:48.800
<v Speaker 1>top of the list, you know, like iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>We liked her a lot. Yeah, we were happy loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode gee dark as hell, like so many of

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<v Speaker 1>the ones where they tried to tackle where they try

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle human trafficking, which obviously I've had my say

2:15:06.920 --> 2:15:09.240
<v Speaker 1>on human trafficking or whatever. It's not happening in the

2:15:09.240 --> 2:15:11.400
<v Speaker 1>way that SVU always makes it seem all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, living in a post Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>Files semi release, have they fully been released? Not really,

2:15:19.560 --> 2:15:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's just really I was sad about the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of like, these are two kids from the same family,

2:15:29.520 --> 2:15:32.240
<v Speaker 1>but like one person looked out for Aaron Lindsay and

2:15:32.280 --> 2:15:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the other person didn't look out for Teddy, and their

2:15:35.400 --> 2:15:39.640
<v Speaker 1>lives had such different trajectories, and I just it was

2:15:40.600 --> 2:15:42.160
<v Speaker 1>let's keep an eye out on all.

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<v Speaker 3>These fucking kids. I don't know. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>my post mortem is on this, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch out, watch out for your half brother, don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>track of him for ten years. Also, thank you to

2:15:52.120 --> 2:15:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the hundreds of you who commented Epstein files on the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of our last post. Some of you DMD it

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<v Speaker 1>to us, which was even better. I would just open

2:16:01.760 --> 2:16:04.440
<v Speaker 1>up dms and be like Epstein vials like we got

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<v Speaker 1>so many responses it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to know that a lot of you. Listen

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<v Speaker 3>to the end of the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, did you see the picture the

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<v Speaker 1>new Luigi that dropped with the court officer behind him

2:16:16.240 --> 2:16:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like, oh, you guys are trying to minimize Luigi.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this icon standing behind him because there's like

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<v Speaker 1>this like cool black woman standing behind him, like posed almost.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of another person that's been on trial

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<v Speaker 2>where they've had armed police stand behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, Like, what do you think is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't eat, he came.

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<v Speaker 2>From jails, you're real, yeah, Like I it's so annoying.

2:16:41.840 --> 2:16:43.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're playing these games trying to make him

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<v Speaker 2>look more dangerous than he is when everyone knows he's

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<v Speaker 2>a sweetie pie. Who's about I mean, I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Luisian stage obviously this whole year. But saying fruit

2:16:53.440 --> 2:16:57.119
<v Speaker 2>of the Poisonous Tree is like the joy of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love repeating it over and over, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so smart every time I say it, and then

2:17:02.000 --> 2:17:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the people that know get it, like it's so.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually have like full Christmas December brain right now,

2:17:08.920 --> 2:17:12.760
<v Speaker 1>where everything is running together in a series of Christmas

2:17:12.800 --> 2:17:16.000
<v Speaker 1>parties and alcohol and being too busy in stressed.

2:17:16.040 --> 2:17:18.320
<v Speaker 2>But like I keep getting accidentally blacked out, and that's

2:17:18.320 --> 2:17:20.400
<v Speaker 2>what I'm upset about. It keeps being casual nights. I

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<v Speaker 2>wear sweatpants. Yesterday I was like, I have a quick

2:17:22.959 --> 2:17:26.760
<v Speaker 2>spot in it. Wow, the sweatpants would be the deterrent.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to a bar and I was there

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<v Speaker 2>until like one point thirty for no reason. But I

2:17:33.040 --> 2:17:35.840
<v Speaker 2>did get the Grinch happy meaning or like adult happy meal,

2:17:35.920 --> 2:17:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and I got Grinch socks, which I've really wanted for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to warn some One of my mom group

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<v Speaker 1>was selling a bunch of vintage nuggets and I wanted

2:17:44.240 --> 2:17:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to get them for you, but somebody had bought them all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna say, I have Christmas brain. But

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I hear something that a bunch of shit from

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi's gonna get thrown out, like they didn't mirandize him

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<v Speaker 1>or like, well I've been saying this, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>my upon months, but yeah, something they all come out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, well it's all coming out in these cases,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't know what's gonna happen. And there is

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I didn't know, but like basically they searched the

2:18:10.800 --> 2:18:13.360
<v Speaker 2>evidence without like a warrant or anything like that, but

2:18:13.400 --> 2:18:17.119
<v Speaker 2>then they didn't find anything, and then body cam footage

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<v Speaker 2>is turned off for I think it was eleven minutes

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and then they found all this

2:18:21.959 --> 2:18:25.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff in his backpack, so there's no chain of coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's people a lot, like the cops are just bad,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're long. I think they underestimated who they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to set up.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, like I don't think Jessica Tish thought

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<v Speaker 2>it through. I don't know, like whoever got this guy's about, Like,

2:18:40.879 --> 2:18:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they underestimated his wealth and intelligence and like face,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know even though we saw the face. But

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<v Speaker 2>also he didn't fight like all of the testimony, but

2:18:52.680 --> 2:18:54.959
<v Speaker 2>the transcripts aren't going to come out until the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the hearing, so I'll have more information hopefully soon.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you think he's being set up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there's definitely some due process that

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<v Speaker 1>has been done incorrectly.

2:19:08.200 --> 2:19:09.680
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a past it because then all

2:19:09.680 --> 2:19:12.360
<v Speaker 2>of so, yeah, like all of this testimony is how

2:19:12.400 --> 2:19:14.880
<v Speaker 2>polite he was, how nice he was. He didn't fight back,

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<v Speaker 2>he did everything they set he was confused like it

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<v Speaker 2>It's just.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it was a hit. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was a hit man. I think they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, yes, because to me, that cocking of the

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<v Speaker 2>gun seemed very professional, like the way it was, like, like,

2:19:33.440 --> 2:19:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this like gamer with a bad

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<v Speaker 2>back was able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Look for future reference.

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<v Speaker 1>If the government is going to set anybody up, don't

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<v Speaker 1>pick like the hottest guy we've ever seen, who's like

2:19:42.840 --> 2:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>also super confident and like looks good in every pair

2:19:45.560 --> 2:19:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of clothes that it has ever been thrown his way.

2:19:47.760 --> 2:19:49.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they didn't read him as mirandaites for I

2:19:49.720 --> 2:19:53.640
<v Speaker 2>think it was like twenty two minutes. They didn't tell

2:19:53.680 --> 2:19:55.360
<v Speaker 2>him what they were, you know, like all of that.

2:19:55.400 --> 2:19:58.320
<v Speaker 2>But the evidence it's like, you know, they didn't log it,

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<v Speaker 2>like something fucked happen.

2:20:00.040 --> 2:20:02.280
<v Speaker 3>And so I'm hoping they are able to throw stuff out.

2:20:02.320 --> 2:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>But because if you don't have any of that evidence,

2:20:04.600 --> 2:20:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you even have.

2:20:07.320 --> 2:20:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that evidence, there's no way you're telling me that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Manifesto.

2:20:14.080 --> 2:20:19.000
<v Speaker 2>This motherfucker hates everyone so smart, so smart planned everything okay,

2:20:19.080 --> 2:20:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and then left everything. But also in the manifesto and

2:20:22.000 --> 2:20:23.840
<v Speaker 2>he never said it was the cops said it was,

2:20:24.560 --> 2:20:28.480
<v Speaker 2>but it thanks the FBI and police for their hard work.

2:20:28.640 --> 2:20:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's like in what we're like, that's so fake.

2:20:33.120 --> 2:20:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I just don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we're ever going to hear Luigi speak

2:20:37.520 --> 2:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>on this stuff himself? Like, is he ever going to

2:20:40.120 --> 2:20:42.119
<v Speaker 1>have like a statement that we're going to be able

2:20:42.160 --> 2:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to Well.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna have to be a witness, probably right, or

2:20:46.120 --> 2:20:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, they don't put those guys up.

2:20:48.360 --> 2:20:49.960
<v Speaker 2>It might all have to be thrown away. But then

2:20:49.959 --> 2:20:52.120
<v Speaker 2>the federal government still wants something. It's like I don't know.

2:20:52.160 --> 2:20:55.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like a long battle ahead. It's gonna be ears.

2:20:55.640 --> 2:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>But you yeah, I'm curious, but there's no new court stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like I don't really try us the news.

2:21:01.520 --> 2:21:03.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I want to read it.

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<v Speaker 1>From I thought somebody messaged me or told me something

2:21:06.200 --> 2:21:08.680
<v Speaker 1>new and I was like, ooh, exciting. But wait, have

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<v Speaker 1>you watched any of the Ditty yet. I haven't watched

2:21:10.360 --> 2:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>any of the Ditty stuff. I'm not going to because

2:21:12.240 --> 2:21:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's gonna be heard. I just heard it's

2:21:15.400 --> 2:21:17.959
<v Speaker 1>really really good. Like I heard it's really good, so

2:21:18.000 --> 2:21:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to I'm going to watch it. But did

2:21:20.680 --> 2:21:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that like basically some camera crew like approached

2:21:24.680 --> 2:21:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Ditty and was like, we want to film you in

2:21:27.600 --> 2:21:29.360
<v Speaker 1>your days like leading up to trial or whatever, and

2:21:29.360 --> 2:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>he was like yeah, sure, and then they didn't. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay them, and that's when fifty cent came in

2:21:34.280 --> 2:21:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and was like, I'll pay you. And that's how fifty

2:21:36.560 --> 2:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>cent got like all this fucking footage because he just

2:21:40.040 --> 2:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>paid the guys for their work and got all their footage.

2:21:44.160 --> 2:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I love fifty cent. Yeah.

2:21:46.840 --> 2:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I met fifty cent when I was a page and

2:21:48.520 --> 2:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>he was really cool. He was really nice to me

2:21:50.879 --> 2:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and like honestly a little flirty.

2:21:53.400 --> 2:21:55.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but who does he go for? He fu, fuck

2:21:55.959 --> 2:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>you Randall, You're you're a creep. Fuck you Diddy, You're

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<v Speaker 2>a human trafficker. Yeah, he goes after people. A yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading. There was actually a new letter December ninth

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<v Speaker 2>to the judge from Karen the lawyer, so I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>read that yet. But new docs, new docs. But yeah, Ceeling,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens. But those cops did a bad job,

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<v Speaker 2>like cops usually do, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens. See what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into what would sister Peg do?

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<v Speaker 1>This is our now. Suddenly suddenly I'm getting the venmos.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly I'm getting their venmo.

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<v Speaker 3>There they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to now there's an emoji and they were like, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see Zach Woods coming from Quentin Tarantino. I

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<v Speaker 2>literally sent it around to friends. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so fucking good, This is so good. Zach is

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<v Speaker 2>the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know him? Do you have a good life? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's a really really nice guy. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't know each other well, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>that on a plane one time and I saw him

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<v Speaker 1>and he went, Hi, Kara, and I went.

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<v Speaker 3>You know me? Like, I mean, I like we had

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<v Speaker 3>known each other, but I didn't know you knew me,

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<v Speaker 3>But we do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's great, And I feel like you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a one hundred percent good guy to have the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence to go after Quentino in this way, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you had shit in your past, that's gonna come up.

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<v Speaker 1>Tarantino's gonna find your shit. But Zach Woods, he's clean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's clean, he's just a good man. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good that you're like a rape apologist and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're out here just like pointing fingers at random

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<v Speaker 1>actors that they're bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so we do have to end this obviously it's time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we have time. So no, my friend came over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're on a long journey. I think by

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth weekend, I'll have my new bookshelf and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fully done. But more stuff left the house, more

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<v Speaker 2>and more and more. I'm getting rid of so much. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were organizing my bathroom and she looks at me,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, so you're really shopping in bulk? These days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went, what And so I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 2>many of Like I'm just so scared of running out

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that I have so many multiples of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't really realize. And I was about to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, no, that actually belongs out here. She goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there is one out here, and now there's two more

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<v Speaker 2>down here too, And I go, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So she goes, before you buy anything under the sink,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually have a little store, So why don't you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To check here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go shopping in your little store. And then Nicholas,

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<v Speaker 1>what's missing? Yeah, she goes, I use three deodorants a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she goes, what, like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I got? I don't know. I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny, it's so nice, Like as someone that's a

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<v Speaker 2>perpetually messy person, We'll see how long I can keep

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<v Speaker 2>it going. I've never been this motivated and this like

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<v Speaker 2>keeping up with it as I have been late.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just such a better life.

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<v Speaker 2>When there's space and yeah, and things are straightened up,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like the things that are hanging in my

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<v Speaker 2>closet are just the things I wear now, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>got rid of everything that I do not wear constantly. Oh, capsule,

2:25:16.280 --> 2:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>capsule and my life's seat.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it just feels calming. I'm enjoying being a home more.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it does feel nice to be a little And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first episode of the year, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is like kind of not that we're like pro resolution

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, but like it's kind of like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>way for you to start out the holiday season and

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<v Speaker 1>the new year being organized, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm more I've been more, a little bit more productive,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's because I'm not overwhelmed by stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I but I do have all my notebooks in

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<v Speaker 2>a bin. And if you see me trying to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a notebook somewhere, please put.

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<v Speaker 3>A stop to it. Please you see.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa anywhere near a stationery store, I don't care what's

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover of it.

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<v Speaker 3>She can't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny, all the notebooks that have been I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I have I'm looking right now at a full

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<v Speaker 1>shelf filled with joke notebooks of me and Jared's.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we going to do with those? Are we

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<v Speaker 3>telling those jokes anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know them away because they feel kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like scrap, but I don't know well.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's like every time she found a set list,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it is the same eight things over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again ever a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly that thing that that would be due open that

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<v Speaker 1>up some of my early thoughts about from stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up with anyone done anything about airports? Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into our what would Sister Peg do? This is

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<v Speaker 1>our weekly segment where we direct you towards an organization,

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<v Speaker 1>a book, a movie, a doc something to give you

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<v Speaker 1>more info about what we talked about today. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was happy to see where Little Teddy's life ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going, so we wanted this week to point you

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Runaway Safe Line. Their mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>keep America's runaway, homeless and at risk youth safe and

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<v Speaker 1>off the streets. They offer twenty four to seven to

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<v Speaker 1>mediate assistants at.

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<v Speaker 3>One eight hundred Runaway.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a parent and you need advice, they

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<v Speaker 1>have resources to deal with you know, children's and children

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<v Speaker 1>and teens who are going through stuff so that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel you know, so you can communicate with them

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully avoid a runaway situation. So for more information

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<v Speaker 1>you can head on over to one eight hundred runaway

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. This is an old organization that's existed for

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<v Speaker 1>decades to help runaways. So yeah, that'll be posted and

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn on our show notes and as always, posted in

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, and oh god, I have to

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<v Speaker 3>say it, Rorshack. Oh I said it. It's sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>All the ss and sees together really did intimidate me

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Rorshack from season twenty six, episode six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen our podcast. This is awesome and well we'll

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<v Speaker 3>have more. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Happy New Year. I hope it's cold and fine

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<v Speaker 2>where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year to all of our tommies. We love you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not cold, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what people want, but I feel it's

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<v Speaker 2>hibernation season and we should be hibernating.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice and warm here in LLL.

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<v Speaker 1>We wake up and it's forty five, then it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to eighty, and then it goes back to forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of insane, crazy, but happy New Year. We

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<v Speaker 1>really love you guys. We'll see you in the New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it is the new Year, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're on the other side of the time machine,

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<v Speaker 1>so see us soon.

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