Speaker 1: Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies.
Speaker 3: These episodes are based on. These are our stories.
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Speaker 3: An sv podcast coming at you fast.
Speaker 1: I'm Liza Trigger and I'm Kara Klank And every episode
Speaker 1: it's SVU, it's crime, it's interviews with guests, actors and
Speaker 1: other cool people, and it's our.
Speaker 3: First episode of the year. It's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, we're in the time machine, so we're
Speaker 1: still back in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping Christmas hasn't even happened. But I hope
Speaker 2: your new year is good. You know what has happened?
Speaker 2: The Taylor Swift first episodes of the docu series have
Speaker 2: come out.
Speaker 1: I did read about the bonuses. The bonuses were in
Speaker 1: my were coming out.
Speaker 2: And I've watched those two episodes three times fully, and
Speaker 2: then the second one I've watched four times, and I'll
Speaker 2: probably I wish she didn't space them out, but I
Speaker 2: understand why she did, you know. Yeah, And I was
Speaker 2: kind of like people were talking about crying and I go,
Speaker 2: why the fuck is everyone crying? Not even two minutes in,
Speaker 2: I was crying, not even Tis. It's like one circle, like,
Speaker 2: you know, like a little team huddle before the concert
Speaker 2: in tears.
Speaker 3: In tears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, and I would say my favorite
Speaker 2: parts were Taylor and Florence and the machine rehearsing and
Speaker 2: like that surprise choreo that had to put together in secret,
Speaker 2: like in a few days. And so watching the choreographer
Speaker 2: her name is Mandy Moore, pretty tragic. I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: confusing to everyone constantly, but she is so cool. And
Speaker 2: then like her watching like Florence sing and being like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like being excited by it and their friendship.
Speaker 2: And then Florence goes, you know, Taylor's just my cozy friend.
Speaker 2: But when I was lifted up, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's Taylor Swift, you know, and I really
Speaker 2: liked that, and I just and then there's a co choreographer,
Speaker 2: like an assistant choreographer who was a dancer for live
Speaker 2: of like concerts and what does award shows and everything
Speaker 2: for decades, but you had to retire, you know. It's
Speaker 2: like a young person's game. And Taylor was just like Amanda,
Speaker 2: I think you're a pop star, Like you're a pop star,
Speaker 2: and brought her back into touring and like, you know,
Speaker 2: we got to watch a dancers audition tapes and meet
Speaker 2: their moms and watch their moms watch them.
Speaker 3: Like it really is cool.
Speaker 2: And I can't wait for more episodes because I'm sure
Speaker 2: we'll get to like learn about more of the people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's I love it. Well.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately the crew, like the documentary was supposed to
Speaker 2: start in Vienna where the terrorist attack waso and those
Speaker 2: children were stabbed. In Liverpool there was like a tailor
Speaker 2: dance party.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So that's like pretty unfortunate obviously, and like you see
Speaker 2: her talking about it and meeting the families and so
Speaker 2: it's pretty emotional, I would say, but I'm obsessed. And
Speaker 2: then I watched the whole three plus hour concert Lee
Speaker 2: organized my apartment with my friend.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I just I watched I watched Mariah Carey's Christmas show
Speaker 1: that streamed this past Saturday night, which was like December
Speaker 1: like twelfth or whatever, thirteenth. So it's not weird because
Speaker 1: I know it's January sixth for us right now, but
Speaker 1: I'm still pre Christmas in my mind and heart. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we watched Mariah's live stream. She did it on TikTok and.
Speaker 3: Cancer with friends, like did your kids love it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: With my friends because so my friend soph came to
Speaker 1: town because you know, she like mentors I Brady, who
Speaker 1: plays on Yukon batwomen's basketball, which like the best women's
Speaker 1: basketball team. So they were playing USC, so I got
Speaker 1: tickets to go see them, and unfortunately Ice was injured
Speaker 1: and isn't playing right now, but we got to see
Speaker 1: Yukon frankly just like wipe the floor with USC. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just started so good. It was really crazy. And
Speaker 1: went to the basketball game and then we were like
Speaker 1: drinking before the game.
Speaker 3: We were hanging out with Yukon alums.
Speaker 1: It was like so crazy everybody, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm from Connecticut, but I don't have one piece of
Speaker 1: clothing that says I'm from Connecticut, you know, like I have.
Speaker 3: I was like, I have.
Speaker 1: An old Trinity sweatshirt, but it's likely it's a different college.
Speaker 1: So I was, you know, hobnobbing with the Connecticut fans.
Speaker 3: And then while we're in there, I walk.
Speaker 1: Into this bar where all the Connecticut fans are hanging
Speaker 1: out at the very beginning, and my friend goes, well,
Speaker 1: this guy over here produced the Santa Claus all the
Speaker 1: Santa Claus movies, if you're interested, And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: And then we took a tequila shot. I never take
Speaker 1: shots of tequila, but I was like, for you, Khan,
Speaker 1: you know. Then we watched the game and it was crazy,
Speaker 1: like there's like players, like there's this one player, Asy Fudd,
Speaker 1: and like her dad was outside after the at halftime,
Speaker 1: just in the area.
Speaker 3: Where my friends were sitting.
Speaker 1: Everybody taking pictures of him with him like he was
Speaker 1: a celeb as the dad, which I'm sure like Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift's parents get like insanely mobbed. But yeah, and then
Speaker 1: when we got by the time we got home, we
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we're gonna keep like drinking and hanging out,
Speaker 1: but I don't think we can leave the house.
Speaker 3: So we just watched Mariah and had some cocktails. It
Speaker 3: was fun. Okay, that is really And it was my
Speaker 3: friend Liz to who you know, and Liz and I
Speaker 3: went to Mariah two years ago. It was cute.
Speaker 2: So is it a live Where was she singing, where
Speaker 2: was the market she was in Vegas?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: Is this where the footage of Rihanna losing her shit?
Speaker 2: Was the time of her life?
Speaker 1: And that is that Rihanna? And we were like, we
Speaker 1: were like, is that Rihanna? And then we were like, no,
Speaker 1: she just had a baby, but there she was.
Speaker 3: She was loving it. It was great.
Speaker 1: It was a lot like the concert that I saw,
Speaker 1: except I don't think but Rock and Row were not
Speaker 1: in this one, or if they were, they didn't get
Speaker 1: like a private moment.
Speaker 3: If they were, they were just kind of no, we didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't see them.
Speaker 1: They had like a part when I saw her at
Speaker 1: the Hollywood Bowl. They were like, sec Maybe.
Speaker 3: It's different for a live show versus a stream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a full concert. It was like
Speaker 1: a full concert.
Speaker 2: No, I mean in terms of privacy, but the kids,
Speaker 2: Yeah on TV, but I just I wonder if that's
Speaker 2: it or yeah, yeah, it's going on.
Speaker 3: It was cute.
Speaker 1: They had a little Santa Claus who was like doing
Speaker 1: the Roger Rabbit, Like they hired a Santa who could
Speaker 1: dance like you know, it was cute.
Speaker 3: I was rampis well.
Speaker 2: I wrapped gifts horror, right, Yeah, it's really weird. But
Speaker 2: Tony Collett's in it, Collett and Adam Scott. But it's like,
Speaker 2: I actually can't figure it out because there's not just
Speaker 2: it's a lot of monsters. It's a lot of monsters. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not just one. It's pretty wild. Casey, have you
Speaker 2: seen Crampus smiled? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: What is is? Crampis generally regarded as a good piece
Speaker 1: of cinema.
Speaker 2: It set sixty two percent when I clicked on it,
Speaker 2: and I said.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was I thought it was fun.
Speaker 5: I thought it was a good you know that's like
Speaker 5: kind of a genre onto itself, like the horror Christmas.
Speaker 5: Oh yes movie, And so I had a fun time.
Speaker 5: I remember really enjoying it and laughing and being scared.
Speaker 3: So last year Jared made me watch that horror movie
Speaker 3: that's old. Please tell me the name of it, Casey.
Speaker 3: It's Black Christmas. It's a bunch of girls in their
Speaker 3: dorm rooms.
Speaker 6: Black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Black Christmas. He knew before you even said it. Wait,
Speaker 2: I want to watch Black Christmas.
Speaker 5: Black Christmas is really good and it kind of invented
Speaker 5: the slasher genre.
Speaker 3: So not just a good.
Speaker 2: Okay, the cover of the movie is like a woman
Speaker 2: suffocating with a plastic bag on her face.
Speaker 3: Yeah the cover. Yeah, I'm watching.
Speaker 5: It's also the same director as a Christmas Story. Bob
Speaker 5: Clark's done some iconic movies.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking now that you've mentioned old obviously, Rob Reiner,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? Oh my god, I was out with
Speaker 2: people last night and then the new It was like
Speaker 2: first that, then it's a double, then it's a murder,
Speaker 2: then it's just it's like, I don't know whoror was
Speaker 2: so upsetting, And the reason I thought of it was
Speaker 2: because what a varied career and so many different types
Speaker 2: of movies and like a part of so many people's lives,
Speaker 2: Like like it would.
Speaker 1: Have been one thing if he just directed stand By Me,
Speaker 1: but he directed like ten movies that were like important
Speaker 1: to me growing up, like when Harry met Sally, Misery,
Speaker 1: like Princess Bride. Stand By Me is like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time. I mean, like it's
Speaker 1: really deeply fucked up, and I am so beyond disgusted
Speaker 1: how the fucking president of this country responded to it.
Speaker 1: It was it's just awful, like and I just everybody
Speaker 1: feels really really I feel like shaken by this.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like funny, like when I first started dating Jared,
Speaker 1: he would always talk to me about directors of movies,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I don't know who directors are,
Speaker 1: Like I know a movie, I know who's in it,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know who directors are. Like maybe I
Speaker 1: knew a Spielber like, but not even like I didn't
Speaker 1: even know for sure any of that shit until I
Speaker 1: was way older. And now it's like, of course, oh,
Speaker 1: I know a pt Anderson movie, and I know a
Speaker 1: Scorsese and I know this and that, but I didn't
Speaker 1: care about it.
Speaker 3: But I always knew who Rob Ryner was.
Speaker 1: He was like a director that was like in the
Speaker 1: country also because he was an actor, but like I
Speaker 1: didn't really watch him as an actor. I knew him
Speaker 1: as a as a director. So it's just really fucked.
Speaker 1: It's really really devastating, and.
Speaker 2: I am just like, I don't know your kids. I
Speaker 2: hope it's not true. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just well, do you want to hear how fucked
Speaker 1: my like SVU brain is. When Jared first told it me,
Speaker 1: he just said, oh my god. He was found with
Speaker 1: his wife murdered or dead with stab wounds, and I
Speaker 1: go where they live? I mean after I was shocked.
Speaker 1: I was shocked, and then I said where do they live?
Speaker 1: And he said Brentwood, and I go, God, I hope
Speaker 1: it wasn't like one of his kids or something, because
Speaker 1: I was like, if he lives in Brentwood and he's
Speaker 1: he's got a security system and nobody is home, invading
Speaker 1: someone as rich as him in Brentwood in the middle
Speaker 1: of the holiday season, like they would wait for him
Speaker 1: to be not home or something. And so my brain
Speaker 1: just went through all of the like sbu of it all,
Speaker 1: and I was like, if there was no forced entry,
Speaker 1: which maybe there was, I hadn't even heard yet. And
Speaker 1: then Jared ten minutes later goes it was his son,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, my mind is
Speaker 1: so fucked from watching true crime and fictionalized crime or
Speaker 1: you know, right on top of it. Yeah, but now
Speaker 1: very upsetting. Yeah, but Black Christmas is scary. But it's
Speaker 1: one of those movies that ends with.
Speaker 3: Well, don't tell me I want to watch that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, you don't get I don't get
Speaker 1: satisfied at the end.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 1: And the and Jared's like, that's part of it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I want you know, like I so
Speaker 1: that's all, but I won't say what happens.
Speaker 2: But I'm also excited because for my friend, you know,
Speaker 2: my big Christmas it's I didn't buy new wrapping paper
Speaker 2: because that's not my really my style. But everyone's getting
Speaker 2: a signature wrapping paper. So each person gets thrown, and
Speaker 2: I am, it's just like paper bag when is newspaper.
Speaker 1: It's not like rich, but I'm kind of into it.
Speaker 1: Everyone gets and then everybody knows what their gifts are.
Speaker 1: It's like site right right away. Yeah, I mean, oh
Speaker 1: my god. So you know me, I get too over excited.
Speaker 2: So I'm obsessed with this girl bag Crap and she
Speaker 2: makes she made me like a glitter cheese keychain, but
Speaker 2: she sells and makes bag chains out of vintage toys
Speaker 2: and keychains and little barbies and fun stuff.
Speaker 3: Bag Crap is the name of her like business.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah, And she posted an Arthur thing and
Speaker 2: it was like little teeny charms, all the Arthur character
Speaker 2: and even the parents, like it was like fifteen of them.
Speaker 2: And so I reacted insanely and she goes, well, if
Speaker 2: you want, I'll let you pick them before I put
Speaker 2: them on sale. You can get first DIBs. So then
Speaker 2: I picked a few. She goes, if you pick more,
Speaker 2: I'll give them two for cheaper. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to. I made a cute little chain of
Speaker 2: Arthur's stuff. I like, was so stressed. I wanted to
Speaker 2: get it in before the sale started. And she's like,
Speaker 2: successful and great. But I went back today and like,
Speaker 2: all the other ones are still available, and I just
Speaker 2: think there's a crazy demand of like people wanting to
Speaker 2: buy Arthur little keychains that I was like craze. I
Speaker 2: was ruining a dinner making everyone helped me decide which
Speaker 2: ones to pick, and like, truly I could have taken
Speaker 2: my time, but I felt special she let me do
Speaker 2: the well.
Speaker 1: It also reminds me of when when Eric Carl was
Speaker 1: dying and you were like, I should buy all this
Speaker 1: Eric Carl stuff, like it's gonna be huge. We have
Speaker 1: our Eric call Hungry Carl hungry caterpillar ornament that you
Speaker 1: gave us on our tree.
Speaker 3: Oh cute.
Speaker 1: It's very heavy, so I have to use a paper
Speaker 1: clip to hold it up on the tree, but it
Speaker 1: looks very cute, and the kids love that fucking caterpillar.
Speaker 2: So I love that caterpillar and a but yeah, I
Speaker 2: just get so like in my head and like everyone's
Speaker 2: going to be fighting for the best of the best.
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna want Binky.
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna want Binky, right, and then it's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, like you're at the top. The things that
Speaker 2: I am like so that I think are precious are
Speaker 2: really not seen that way.
Speaker 3: When we were growing up. Was the theme song the
Speaker 3: same as Arthur?
Speaker 1: Like, Hey, what a wonderful kind of d I really
Speaker 1: love that theme song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the Marley Brothers. It's like, oh, kids, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a Marley. It's ziggy.
Speaker 1: It's really freaking catchy. I like sing it walking around
Speaker 1: the house because.
Speaker 3: They watch it.
Speaker 1: They watch Arthur sometimes. But I didn't remember the theme
Speaker 1: song from being younger.
Speaker 2: Oh and obviously the deadline of Variety or whatever it
Speaker 2: was did come out that Iced Tea will be in
Speaker 2: the season of Survival of the Thickest.
Speaker 3: He was on set.
Speaker 2: I was not there, but we're all just we all
Speaker 2: got to just hope for the premiere.
Speaker 3: We got to hope for a run in at the premiere.
Speaker 1: We need it, but we have to all send. You know,
Speaker 1: it happened with Garcel, I have no doubt it can
Speaker 1: happen with Ice. I feel like, yeah, we got a
Speaker 1: let's get Michelle on it. Michelle's gotta know she's not
Speaker 1: gonna have anything else to do that night.
Speaker 3: She should just.
Speaker 2: Work on making it well. We also like this last episode.
Speaker 2: It's very personal to her, but she was directing it too,
Speaker 2: so it would be fun like she's directing in it,
Speaker 2: like writing it and I am trying to meet Iced Tea.
Speaker 3: But I got a lot of scoop. People were excited.
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, So I hope, I hope I get
Speaker 2: to Angina Alliance. I mean, we'll see, We'll see what happens,
Speaker 2: but Ice is definitely my goal at this premiere.
Speaker 1: Yesterday, I was with some of my friends at like
Speaker 1: some friends and kids from school from Rosie School and
Speaker 1: Oscar School.
Speaker 3: So we were talking.
Speaker 1: About concerts for some reason, and somebody was like, like,
Speaker 1: because a lot of them are are Latinos. So they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we should be supporting j Lo's tour. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's her residency in Vegas, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's selling super well, and I go, well,
Speaker 1: my friend is going.
Speaker 3: So I was like, I do know.
Speaker 1: One person that is supporting and going, so I think
Speaker 1: it will be it will be good. But by the
Speaker 1: time this episode comes out, you'll have attended a Backstreet.
Speaker 3: Boys in a j LO.
Speaker 2: The next January episode is going to be five hours long.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're gonna have so much to chat
Speaker 2: to catch up on.
Speaker 1: I need to know how the gifts landed. I need
Speaker 1: to know what you received.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what didn't land So my niece
Speaker 2: and nephews, you know famously they don't never give me attention.
Speaker 2: They're never giving me attention, so It'tnica and I decide,
Speaker 2: I mean we also Australia. I mean, tragedy everywhere, but
Speaker 2: so Tonica. I text the niece and nephews in a
Speaker 2: group check in a group chat, and I go, hey,
Speaker 2: drop your venmo, I'd love to give you some Aunt
Speaker 2: Honica money. No one responded, I'm trying to give money
Speaker 2: to these children. I'm like, what did I do? I
Speaker 2: don't understand it.
Speaker 3: These kids don't need money.
Speaker 2: Come on, I I just like, I can't make it
Speaker 2: more clear that I'm trying as hard as I can.
Speaker 3: Nothing. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I also texted them about Benji nothing Benji, none of them.
Speaker 2: And I texted them last week too because I found
Speaker 2: out there's five Jewish players in the NHL.
Speaker 3: So I thought they would like to know that. Didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they didn't care.
Speaker 1: They are they are so deep into their too cool era,
Speaker 1: it seems well, I just I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm spiraling. I mean, the youngest I knew was hard
Speaker 1: to grab attention from. But the other two I thought
Speaker 1: you could get something from them.
Speaker 2: Money, guys, drop your venmo, That's what I wrote. I mean, whatever, insane, insane.
Speaker 1: If I had an aunt that was just like yo,
Speaker 1: money coming your way, I feel like, here's my venmo.
Speaker 3: I'll come to you. I'm fine to Florida. Jesus.
Speaker 2: No, these kids are well taken care of, I guess,
Speaker 2: and they need nothing from insanity from their aunt. You
Speaker 2: know how I've been non stop talking about Natalie Palomides's show,
Speaker 2: right like yeah, stop, like I don't.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. I wanted to make
Speaker 3: sure everyone got to go that wanted to go.
Speaker 2: So I also that day is when I saw it
Speaker 2: the dayzor on one and so, and then I met
Speaker 2: up with Jared Goldstein that night. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I remember I mentioned it on this podcast or whatnot,
Speaker 2: but I've been telling him and everyone to go see this.
Speaker 2: I get a text from him, going, do you want
Speaker 2: to see Natalie Palomida's show Wednesday, December seventeenth at eight
Speaker 2: Cherry Lane. Tickets are one seventy. I hear it's a
Speaker 2: life changing show.
Speaker 3: Who said that to you? Jared Goldstein? In all caps?
Speaker 2: I wrote, I've seen it and been telling you multiple
Speaker 2: times to see it. I'm the one who told you this.
Speaker 2: Who do you think you heard it from? It was
Speaker 2: me learned to listen to women. And then I sent
Speaker 2: him the copy of the ticket.
Speaker 4: But like.
Speaker 2: I saw him after I saw it, I've been talking
Speaker 2: about it NonStop. I go, if you're back, you gotta
Speaker 2: get it, inviting me to go see it.
Speaker 3: Good, hilarious, this happened. Never living that down. No, he
Speaker 3: does this.
Speaker 2: He'll bring something up to him like I told you this,
Speaker 2: I told you. I can't even believe this, or I'll
Speaker 2: be like, oh did you know this?
Speaker 3: I go I said it. I said it eight minutes ago.
Speaker 3: I said it, I said it, but that one I
Speaker 3: was my favorite. I'm like, I literally you mean what.
Speaker 1: I just said two seconds ago, my suggestion from five minutes.
Speaker 3: Ago, Like yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: And I'm not quiet. Neither of us are mumbling. No,
Speaker 1: neither of us are.
Speaker 3: We're talking so much people have to like put some
Speaker 3: of it out.
Speaker 1: They're picking and choosing when to tune and into now,
Speaker 1: and they're missing some things they're missing.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 1: I was also going to say, I'm also going to
Speaker 1: the I'm going to be near the I thought of
Speaker 1: you because I'm going to be near the comedy store tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Mariah Carey pop up bar. I'm
Speaker 1: my god, you can't get enough. You can't get enough.
Speaker 3: My friend, my friend got tickets and was like, do
Speaker 3: you want to go to this?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you know, I like going
Speaker 1: to Wee how it feels like I'm visiting my old
Speaker 1: like the old country for me.
Speaker 2: You know, I hate the new vander Pump, but that's
Speaker 2: not get bad. I haven't even attempted.
Speaker 3: I don't care about these people. I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The preview really had me like I was like, this
Speaker 1: isn't it for me.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: We really had something special and Lala and Sheena had
Speaker 2: to ruin it by trying to be team Tom Sandoval
Speaker 2: instead of doing a girl power season. And that's that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we could have continued having something lovely. Wait, Kara, you
Speaker 2: have to tell me about Arden's party, her famous holiday
Speaker 2: birthday part, famous holiday birth the one time I was
Speaker 2: there with you. We danced with Rebecca Romain and Jerry
Speaker 2: o'connells and lands Bad. I mean it's a star sunded party. Yeah,
Speaker 2: tell me what I've what I missed this year. Rebecca
Speaker 2: Romaine was back great. I think she was with a child,
Speaker 2: one of the kids.
Speaker 1: I think she was with one of the kids because
Speaker 1: they're like older now, they're like like not a child,
Speaker 1: they're like older teens, you know. And uh, who else
Speaker 1: did I see?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: I met Billy Lee from at her pump. Okay, exciting, Yes,
Speaker 1: that was exciting. She show me about her stand up journey.
Speaker 1: And then she has really good skin. I feel she did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she did. She had like her makeup looked really really
Speaker 1: good and she looked and she looks great. And then
Speaker 1: I suburb Chreischer and his wife and I saw some
Speaker 1: people on the dance floor that I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: but I now I'm like blanking. I met this actress
Speaker 1: from that show Children's Hospital, very pretty. She's done a
Speaker 1: lot of comedy stuff with people, but I'm like fully
Speaker 1: blanking on her name. I talked to her for a
Speaker 1: long time, and then I was talking to Brian Safie
Speaker 1: and Bridger.
Speaker 3: You know, I love when I get to that party.
Speaker 1: I admittedly get into a corner with like three gay
Speaker 1: men and I don't leave for the first hour. And
Speaker 1: Jared is always like, I guess I'll just go find
Speaker 1: someone to talk to, like he just has other friends there.
Speaker 1: But I just I honestly missed some people I knew
Speaker 1: were at the party because I was just in my little,
Speaker 1: you know, cloud of shit talk with my friends for
Speaker 1: a few minutes and for a little more than a
Speaker 1: few minutes, and then yeah, I got on the dance
Speaker 1: for At one point I'm like, who else did I see?
Speaker 1: There were a couple of characters.
Speaker 2: But well, okay, I I did ask Kat for the
Speaker 2: first time. Oh my gosh, Yeah, I was the monologue
Speaker 2: so cool.
Speaker 1: I did the monologue a la years ago and it
Speaker 1: was it was fun, but it wasn't doing it in
Speaker 1: New York doing the monologue.
Speaker 3: Is it different? It's just different.
Speaker 2: Laughing so hard tears, my makeup guts ruined for the
Speaker 2: rest of the night. I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: My brother Colin used to like get in line up
Speaker 1: one pm on a Sunday, No to go to like
Speaker 1: the ten o'clock, and he would be like, in line
Speaker 1: in time to go to the eight o'clock and be like, no,
Speaker 1: the ten o'clock's better, Like he would want to go
Speaker 1: to the later one.
Speaker 3: He would always go to the w.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like back in the day when it
Speaker 1: was at Chelsea, maybe there was like a seven and
Speaker 1: a nine, and he would always go to the later one,
Speaker 1: even though I was like, you could go to the
Speaker 1: early and He's like they would play cards, get food,
Speaker 1: chit chat, smoke SIGs. I guess, just chill so that
Speaker 1: they could go. It was like a cultural thing for them.
Speaker 1: And I went a couple of times and was like
Speaker 1: the improv is so good and there would always be
Speaker 1: like a celebrity there doing a monologue or somebody really great.
Speaker 1: And then I did the monologue one time at UCB Sunset.
Speaker 1: It's just really not the same vibe as getting to
Speaker 1: do it in New York. So that's really cool.
Speaker 2: Everyone was so fucking funny. I knew a couple of them,
Speaker 2: but most people were fully new to me. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just fun because it's based on your own true stories. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you're you're not getting g roasted, but it's like
Speaker 2: I don't and that the chair is really comfortable.
Speaker 3: It was like it was a great start to mind.
Speaker 3: What suggestion might did somebody give you?
Speaker 2: So the first suggestion two people one yelled out souvenir
Speaker 2: and one person yelled out school. So died two quick stories,
Speaker 2: one of for each. The second one was, those.
Speaker 1: Are good suggestions for you because I feel you're a
Speaker 1: big souvenir queen and you have a lot of different
Speaker 1: school stories.
Speaker 2: The second one was haircut, which is crazy because I
Speaker 2: was a salum receptionist.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I went through my career.
Speaker 2: And then the third I didn't like it, like I
Speaker 2: made I made people.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want that. I don't want that.
Speaker 3: I don't want that.
Speaker 2: And then finally someone said wedding and I went out, okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I did that. So those are my three that
Speaker 2: I got today. But yeah, if people want to laugh,
Speaker 2: you should definitely go to that.
Speaker 3: I really really fun, really good good.
Speaker 2: It makes me also, you know, I just don't watch
Speaker 2: improv ever. No, it was also like truly seeing it
Speaker 2: and being like, oh my god, this is so good,
Speaker 2: like I forget the best in PA, Like they're so good.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, they're good, and they're relaxed because if
Speaker 1: you've made it to askat then you're like the best
Speaker 1: that you see be has and so you're not like,
Speaker 1: am I gonna make it on a team?
Speaker 3: Am I good?
Speaker 1: You know, like you're just not you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like watching somebody who's been doing stand up for
Speaker 1: a long time, like they're not really worried about getting
Speaker 1: Montreal anymore. You know, they're just like Lucy Goosey and
Speaker 1: having a good time and that's why they're that's they're
Speaker 1: the fun want.
Speaker 2: They're like patient, Like no one you could tell their
Speaker 2: release seasons, like you said, because no one was trying
Speaker 2: to be the person. No one was like yeah, trying
Speaker 2: to fight the rhythm. Everyone was just like really fluid
Speaker 2: in and out. Quts.
Speaker 3: It was cool. It was really cool.
Speaker 1: Where was it was it at the new where's the
Speaker 1: new UCB in New York?
Speaker 2: New UCB is on Fourteenth Street between second and third.
Speaker 3: Oh great, yeah, yeah cool.
Speaker 1: And I know exactly. That's so close to you too,
Speaker 1: and amazing it was.
Speaker 2: I got to walk and then oh I did open
Speaker 2: for someone at Grammar's cy Theater and it was really
Speaker 2: fun and I got to meet everyone that works there
Speaker 2: because I will be there February twenty first, Hello, Fab
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 3: Get those tickets. I like that I got to be
Speaker 3: there before just to get the lay of the land. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: But go to That's messed up live for Lisa's tour dates.
Speaker 1: You can also still get merch. I know it's after
Speaker 1: the holiday, but you can still get our Lowis Lewis.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some new merch too that we have
Speaker 1: ideas for the new year that we're gonna drop soon.
Speaker 1: And yes, stay tuned, we have some exciting stuff coming
Speaker 1: up this year here at That's messed Up Headquarters.
Speaker 3: And I'm on the road. I'm on the road. I'm
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 2: Website hopefully coming soon. I mean yeah, lawyers are hard.
Speaker 2: Like the lawyer has to go over the servicing contract
Speaker 2: and it's like, get me the website.
Speaker 3: I don't understand, Like I don't want this, but I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: As the website is done, it will be linked it.
Speaker 1: That's messed up live. So whatever it says for Lisa's website,
Speaker 1: go to that for now, and then when the website's ready,
Speaker 1: it'll go to that, right yea, the punch ups, you'll
Speaker 1: tell me mine is ready.
Speaker 3: No, the punch ups ready, but okay.
Speaker 2: So on my way to soul Cycle on Saturday, on
Speaker 2: Taylor'slip's birthday, I see there's a dog adoption on the
Speaker 2: street corner. There's a dog named Benson, Like like, so
Speaker 2: look at that little doggie. So I go to soul
Speaker 2: Cycle and on my way, I'm like, I'm gonna go visit
Speaker 2: the dog. I like, fucking I need to see Benson.
Speaker 2: So then I also post about it. I'm like, someone
Speaker 2: adopt Benson. Then I walk over there Benson's been adopted,
Speaker 2: so like immediately, the next story eight minutes later is
Speaker 2: just like, Benson's adopted. And my friend Lane just made
Speaker 2: fun of me. He's like, I like that, you were like,
Speaker 2: someone adopt this dog. Problem solved like immediately, no.
Speaker 3: I went in there.
Speaker 2: It was really hard. I really wanted Jerry and Rally too.
Speaker 2: Look at Jerry, Look at Jerry.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they're all so cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I donated some money and kept it moving.
Speaker 3: I maybe twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty six is the year that you, one of you
Speaker 1: Tommies can bring a dog into your life.
Speaker 3: But I thought you met me.
Speaker 1: I yeah, well, I just don't think you can with
Speaker 1: all of your roads stuff. But I think one day
Speaker 1: a dog will be in your life. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but I just seems.
Speaker 3: Like a lot right now.
Speaker 2: I know, like landing and having to take a dog
Speaker 2: to poop. I mean it's the pooping. Besides the pooping.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would be one day take them
Speaker 2: out in the freezing cold. I would have a late
Speaker 2: night girl like I wouldn't. My dog wouldn't wake up early.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how dogs work. Is that how
Speaker 1: they work? Can you just tell you bond with the dog.
Speaker 1: The dog is gonna do what I want to do eventually?
Speaker 1: Now is that wrong?
Speaker 3: Casey's like, ah.
Speaker 2: There are people that post on Instagram and like, look
Speaker 2: at my dog here at Because if I keep this
Speaker 2: dog up till three in the morning, what they're gonna
Speaker 2: want to be out at six am.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, they're gonna need their sleep. But and
Speaker 1: the dog's gonna be out with me. Like the dog
Speaker 1: is gonna be doing Spot Yeah that, but dog's gonna
Speaker 1: have his own tel Far yeaeah to be like a
Speaker 1: little ride along tell Far.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get started.
Speaker 1: We have an awesome episode to kick off the new year.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this episode is hot huge.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: We are doing Chicago Crossover Season sixty, episode seven. This
Speaker 1: is This episode comes out around twenty fourteen, follow twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: and it's a big It's like one of these big,
Speaker 1: annoying crossover events.
Speaker 3: It's only annoying if you don't watch the other shows.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a second of Chicago Fire, but I
Speaker 1: have dabbled in PD a little bit here and there
Speaker 1: for the crossovers.
Speaker 2: The bar that they shoot at, that's where I used
Speaker 2: to go every Tuesday for an open mic that Mike Joyce.
Speaker 2: So a lot of that's the yeah, because I remember
Speaker 2: when they started filming Chicago Fire and they would change
Speaker 2: the bar and we'd be like, oh my god, like
Speaker 2: we were excitedly, you know, I would go.
Speaker 3: We're excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't realize that Chicago Fire started before
Speaker 1: PD because this I do, but it's only because it's
Speaker 1: like a season before. Yeah, so if you're interested, this
Speaker 1: starts with episode Nobody Touches Anything, Season three, episode seven
Speaker 1: of Chicago Fire.
Speaker 3: Then we do this episode and then it ends.
Speaker 1: Up with a Chicago PD episode called They'll have to
Speaker 1: Go Through Me Season two, episode seven, and I will
Speaker 1: give you the full synopsis of what they find before
Speaker 1: what they find after these the SPU episode in case
Speaker 1: you don't want to do all that. So yeah, all
Speaker 1: three of these episode aired on November twelve, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: So Dick Wolf just wanted everyone seated and firing money
Speaker 1: into his bank account for three straight hours, Like just
Speaker 1: keep your channel trained on NBC and you just watch
Speaker 1: them all three together. And I guess that's like what
Speaker 1: they want to happen in the old model of TV.
Speaker 1: And now it's like they'll do these crossovers and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you do a crossover with OC, not everyone has Peacock,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're not putting OC
Speaker 1: like on linear anymore, so you better do a really
Speaker 1: really in depth what like previously on or whatever you know,
Speaker 1: recap at the beginning. So a little background in the
Speaker 1: Chicago Fire episode. The whole Chicago Fire Department gang is
Speaker 1: at a routine apartment fire when they come upon a
Speaker 1: box of photo and they're a wholesome family vacation to Disney,
Speaker 1: just kidding. They're very disturbing photos that involve young children, obviously,
Speaker 1: so they call Chicago PD where scratchy voice voight you
Speaker 1: know the guy who's the head it dogs like this.
Speaker 1: He works with Sophia Bush aka Aaron Lindsay, who we've
Speaker 1: seen in the episode Comic Perversion. Now Lindsey goes through
Speaker 1: all the picks and she notices somebody that she knows
Speaker 1: in the pictures, and then they link the photos to
Speaker 1: a database of missing kids in New York City, and
Speaker 1: obviously they come barking up Olivia Benson's tree, and that's
Speaker 1: where we are at the beginning of this as FU episode.
Speaker 1: So the episode opens with Benson pushing the best Noah
Speaker 1: baby Noah on the swings at the playground with Amorrow,
Speaker 1: and you know, they look like a little family. It's
Speaker 1: kind of cute, and then you know, rfk's voice twin
Speaker 1: blows up her cell, and he's like, like a apparently
Speaker 1: these Chicago PD folks are en route to New York.
Speaker 1: And she tells him that she sent the picks to
Speaker 1: Nick Mick and that's the National Center for Missing and
Speaker 1: Exploited Children, who linked them to a pedophile ring that's
Speaker 1: been sex trafficking kids for a decade. And he's like
Speaker 1: a decade, how come you haven't caught them or whatever?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm gonna brief Lindsay in Halstead when
Speaker 1: they get here, So he lets Olivia know this is
Speaker 1: personal for Lindsay. One of the victims is her half brother,
Speaker 1: and so that's who she's that's the picture she saw.
Speaker 3: Benson is like, duh, I already know that. I know everything.
Speaker 1: So they hang up and she explains the situation to
Speaker 1: Nick and then she tells Noah, five more pushes. He's
Speaker 1: way too young to know how many pushes that is,
Speaker 1: but he's smiling, he's happy. Nick is taking a video
Speaker 1: on his phone. They're like a cute little fam at
Speaker 1: the park. And now we're at the precinct. Amarro is
Speaker 1: asking Finn, hey is Halstead the guy who hit on
Speaker 1: Rawins in Chicago? And Finn goes nas some other pretty boy,
Speaker 1: and who they're actually referencing is Adam Ruzek, who is
Speaker 1: on Chicago PD And this this flirtation happened in the
Speaker 1: episode Conventions on Chicago p D.
Speaker 3: But that guy's never been on SVU.
Speaker 1: So if you're an sv person and you're not listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, you have no idea what they're even
Speaker 1: fucking talking about. Live introduces everyone in in her office,
Speaker 1: like this is Aaron Lindsay that's played by Sophia Bush
Speaker 1: and Jay Halstead, And he's played by Jesse Lee Sofer,
Speaker 1: who was on Chicago p D for eight years.
Speaker 3: The actor.
Speaker 1: He was on Chicago p D for eight years and
Speaker 1: then moved over to FBI International. And he also plays
Speaker 1: Bobby Brady in the Brady Bunch movies, which I love
Speaker 1: me too. I really love the like the Shelley Long
Speaker 1: Brady Bunch movies.
Speaker 3: And I'm really excited that he And.
Speaker 1: Wait, isn't the guy from VEEP the dad the dad
Speaker 1: in the Brady Bunch movies. It's the guy from v Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Gary Cole, Gary Cole, yes, yeah, SVO is an SVU, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I love him well. I love Pineapple Express. I
Speaker 2: actually don't watch it enough. I really remember laughing so
Speaker 2: much at that movie. I haven't seen that in a
Speaker 2: while either. Yeah, I think I remember liking him.
Speaker 1: Rollins runs into a meeting late with clearly like a
Speaker 1: made up lie about getting stuck in the tunnel because
Speaker 1: she can't say it like all in the one clear sentence,
Speaker 1: and we can tell by Benson's face that she's kind
Speaker 1: of like clocking the lateness and the excuse. But do
Speaker 1: they ever mention the reason why. They certainly don't. We
Speaker 1: never get back to that. That got edited out, so
Speaker 1: they explained. Listen, Chicago Fire Department found this box of
Speaker 1: photos at the apartment of Andrew Llewellyn, and one of
Speaker 1: the victims is a guy named Teddy Courtney, and he's
Speaker 1: Lindsay's half brother who ran away ten years ago. And
Speaker 1: her mom, she doesn't say how she knows this, but
Speaker 1: my mom knows he came to New York City.
Speaker 3: That's actually to begin with.
Speaker 1: I don't watch Chicago PD really, but we all know
Speaker 1: Aaron Lindsay had like kind of a struggling childhood, bad
Speaker 1: bad parent parental situation, got into some bad shit, maybe
Speaker 1: like drug sales or whatever, and then Voight took her
Speaker 1: under his wing and that's how she becomes a cop
Speaker 1: and she's a detective over in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because if you guys are our listeners of
Speaker 2: this pod, you've watched day Dream Believer, which she was in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the Nadia episode. So we've definitely done some Sofia
Speaker 2: Bush episodes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but that's a little bit about Aaron Lindsay's background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's you know, she came from you know, tough beginnings,
Speaker 1: and so that's why it's like possible that you have
Speaker 1: a half brother that would have just like disappeared that
Speaker 1: you can't that you haven't heard from in ten years.
Speaker 1: Nick Mick ran his face, uh, and they found more
Speaker 1: images of him, and they this pedophilia ring. Slash Club
Speaker 1: is still active and they've upgraded to live streaming since
Speaker 1: Teddy's childhood days. They want to ask Teddy some questions
Speaker 1: and Tomorrow, who's never read a room in his entire life,
Speaker 1: goes assuming he's alive, right in front of his damn sister,
Speaker 1: and then everybody's like, dog.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: He half apologizes, and then what he's in the middle
Speaker 1: of apologizing lives like, shut the fuck up. So now
Speaker 1: they're gonna search all the systems for Teddy. Let's run
Speaker 1: an age progression, let's do mugshots. They're gonna need Lindsay's DNA, etc.
Speaker 1: They're gonna find this guy. Next, we're watching, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're watching an awful video of a teen boy begging
Speaker 1: to be let go.
Speaker 3: His name is Henry.
Speaker 1: The purpose off camera and he he goes, if you
Speaker 1: keep crying, I'm gonna have to gag you. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's creepy. Like all the guys we've seen in any
Speaker 1: of these videos that we've seen on the show, is
Speaker 1: like they're always off camera talking in a very calm
Speaker 1: voice while a child is like hysterical. And this kid,
Speaker 1: this actor is very good. He's like really really fucking
Speaker 1: me up. He's crying, he's chained to a bed, he
Speaker 1: looks terrified. The guy's telling him, oh, got a special
Speaker 1: request from one of our members. So this is super fucked.
Speaker 1: We're all we're seeing this video and then we pull out.
Speaker 1: We're watching the video with Special Agent O'Connell from the FBI,
Speaker 1: who we've also seen in the episode Friending Emily from
Speaker 1: season fourteen. The Megan Fahey episode Downloaded Child in season fifteen,
Speaker 1: he's this guy who's a special agent who works like
Speaker 1: specifically on these trafficking rings and like see Sam that's
Speaker 1: on the internet. And you know, I think we saw
Speaker 1: him in Downloaded Child being just like yeah, you just
Speaker 1: it's whack them all. You're never gonna get them all.
Speaker 1: You just keep putting one away, and there's more. It's
Speaker 1: like horrible, you know, he's like you can see this
Speaker 1: guy has no life left in his eyes, but he's
Speaker 1: sitting there watching this.
Speaker 2: The actor's name is Frank dial Well. I think he's
Speaker 2: a manifest guy.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, And he played an ada named Don Newvine
Speaker 1: in the first season of SVU. Then in the second
Speaker 1: season he's a defense attorney named Don Newvine. So he's
Speaker 1: just an ADA that switched to defense attorn, which we've
Speaker 1: seen before. I mean, that's like happened to Barba. But
Speaker 1: in season two he defends the pedophile in Countdown and
Speaker 1: the guy in Scourge who has untreated syphilis and becomes
Speaker 1: the night Ripper where he just starts killing a bunch
Speaker 1: of people's Karen Allen's husband. So it's like a wild
Speaker 1: career move for this man to go from like prosecuting
Speaker 1: pedophiles to being like, actually, this guy from Countdown might.
Speaker 3: Not be so bad.
Speaker 1: The guy who like does children's birthday party. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: think that's who he's defending in it. But I looked
Speaker 1: at he kind.
Speaker 2: Of looks like Matt Walsh from Veep. He does, yeah,
Speaker 2: he does. He absolutely does, like a little older. But
Speaker 2: I remember his manifest era. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: He says he's an escape at dan Mora.
Speaker 1: Oh I okay, So anyway, this guy had a wild
Speaker 1: move and now like whatever, but he's played a bunch
Speaker 1: of different characters and now he's this special agent O'Connell
Speaker 1: from the FBI, I guess. And he tells them the
Speaker 1: Chicago shots linked to this pedophile ring which calls itself
Speaker 1: the Chess and Checkers Club, And I was wondering why
Speaker 1: they kept calling it a club. I was like, guys,
Speaker 1: this isn't like fun, this isn't like poker. Why we
Speaker 1: keep calling it a club? And it's because they call
Speaker 1: themselves a club. And that's the first time I've seen
Speaker 1: a pedophile ring really call themselves a club.
Speaker 3: Make it seem like it's a fun, little social event.
Speaker 1: The club members are watching from all over the world,
Speaker 1: paying through encrypted links, and the video just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 1: The kids sounds more and more terrified, and so far
Speaker 1: the FBI has not been able to shut the shit down,
Speaker 1: and lives like, well, if they won't, then we will.
Speaker 1: And I just think it's it's noble. I love her tenacity,
Speaker 1: but it's like, how do you have the same resources
Speaker 1: as the FBI in terms of tech. You've got terru
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, There's no way you can
Speaker 1: shut down. But you know, she says what she wants
Speaker 1: to do, and she does get to the bottom of things.
Speaker 1: So we hear the kids saying I want to go
Speaker 1: home as we go to credits, it's dark as hell.
Speaker 1: So now top of act one, at the precinct, the
Speaker 1: Chicago hotties are getting some coffee. Rollin's busts in on
Speaker 1: their heart to heart and is like, like, let's go home, huh,
Speaker 1: Like why don't we call it a night. I've got
Speaker 1: some illegal gambling to attend to, Like, let's just get
Speaker 1: out of here, like Gambler's Fallacy was this season before
Speaker 1: where she gets busted. So it makes me feel like
Speaker 1: she's relapsed or something. I don't really know where we
Speaker 1: are in the in season sixteen with this in her
Speaker 1: gambling journey, but she's acting weird, like.
Speaker 3: She's going up to these two cops from Chicago, going,
Speaker 3: we'll just call it a night.
Speaker 1: I know your brother is like missing and like in
Speaker 1: this pedalphile ring, but should we just I don't know,
Speaker 1: you guys want to just go to bed, And Paul
Speaker 1: said is like, oh, I'm waiting on the New Jersey database.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go check on that. So it leaves Rollins
Speaker 1: with Lindsay checks in with her. They're like establishing a
Speaker 1: little friendship between the two of them throughout this arc.
Speaker 1: Who says like it could easily be me and Teddy's place,
Speaker 1: like I had a tough childhood and and Rollins is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a sister I haven't talked to in two years.
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, complicated family. Shit is right up
Speaker 1: my is in my wheelhouse. So I get it, and
Speaker 1: Finn gets a hit from an age progressed photo of
Speaker 1: Teddy which looks like he was arrested for solicitation five
Speaker 1: years ago under the name Ted Voight, which I of
Speaker 1: course immediately clock as the guy who's the bensons, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could watch the show because
Speaker 1: of his voice.
Speaker 3: It's two groups gravelly.
Speaker 1: I can't real it's so gravelly it would drive me crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like I can't listen to RFK talk for that long.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a medical condition and I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be making fun of it, but he's a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna just go ahead and keep
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: Does something as a medical condition doesn't mean it can't
Speaker 2: negatively impact me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like the way it sounds in my ears.
Speaker 1: Hall said picks up on the Voight and is like,
Speaker 1: what's up, and Lindsay goes, yeah, Teddy and Voight used
Speaker 1: to know each other, and she confirms, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: my brother, like in this mugshot, and yeah. She wants
Speaker 1: to go talk to the people at the youth center
Speaker 1: where he was last released, and Amaro's like, why don't
Speaker 1: you let us take the first meeting because like he's
Speaker 1: actually probably right, like the sister barging in there is
Speaker 1: probably not the way to go professionally at the beginning.
Speaker 1: So now they're at West Way Youth Center and the
Speaker 1: woman working there says Teddy's a repeat customer. They have
Speaker 1: a good track record with kids with some kids, but
Speaker 1: then there's kids like Teddy. And she says, you know,
Speaker 1: he got sent here twice. He ran away both times.
Speaker 1: Both times he was here less than a week. Amara
Speaker 1: tries to guilt this woman about like don't you have security?
Speaker 1: Why do you let them out? And she's like, we
Speaker 1: keep the streets out, not our residents in. This isn't
Speaker 1: to prison, which makes sense, and I get that, and
Speaker 1: that is how most group homes work.
Speaker 3: They're not in lockdown, you know.
Speaker 1: She asks George the security guard, if he remembers Teddy,
Speaker 1: and he says he doesn't. Flag that for follow up,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about random security guard named George for
Speaker 1: no fucking reason. All the kids are damaged and some are,
Speaker 1: some more than others she's talking about. And they're like,
Speaker 1: any idea who he might be with, like who he
Speaker 1: maybe stayed in touch with, And she goes, well, the
Speaker 1: last time he was here, he seemed to know this
Speaker 1: other girl named jocelynster Pass. She's one of our success stories.
Speaker 1: So they go talk to Jocelyn as she's leaving school.
Speaker 1: She doesn't really want to talk to Rollins or Hallstead,
Speaker 1: that's who that's who it is. It's Rowlins and it's
Speaker 1: boy Chicago Hallstead. She walks, she keeps walking. They follow her.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I'm doing great. I'm going to graduate
Speaker 1: high school. I'm gon go to college. And they're like, well,
Speaker 1: how do you know Teddy? And she's like from the
Speaker 1: life and she's like, you guys have looked up my record, right,
Speaker 1: And then when they they like they're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: kind of know about your past. She seems embarrassed and angry,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, you're not talking to a fourteen
Speaker 1: year old prostitute. You're talking to someone who's going to
Speaker 1: be a teacher. So you know, she doesn't want people
Speaker 1: to look at her through that lens of like her past.
Speaker 1: So Rollins promises that they're not judging. She's like, you
Speaker 1: clearly haven't talked to SVU. Like, babe, we are not judging.
Speaker 1: We just want to find Teddy and she goes, well,
Speaker 1: last I heard he was working the Peers. So Lindsay
Speaker 1: goes to Benson's office and she's stoked about this lead
Speaker 1: and she's like, let's go now, and Benson's like, honey,
Speaker 1: we have to wait until it's dark for anything to
Speaker 1: start turning up at the peers. Okay, like we're not
Speaker 1: going to just turn off now, and but you know,
Speaker 1: there's no one there in the daytime. Lindsay realizes that
Speaker 1: the peers are where the are where people go after
Speaker 1: the pedophiles are done with them, like where they get
Speaker 1: sort of tossed out, and she tells Lindsay, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a pretty rough scene and we're not sure Teddy's there.
Speaker 1: Lindsay feels guilty that she waited this long to find Teddy.
Speaker 1: She says she was ted fifteen when he disappeared, but
Speaker 1: that would have made her twenty five years old as
Speaker 1: a detective, which I think is like not possible while
Speaker 1: she lived with her mentor Yeah, but I also looked
Speaker 1: up her age on the Wikipedia for Chicago PD, and
Speaker 1: she would be she'd be twenty nine at this time,
Speaker 1: So the timing is a little off for how long
Speaker 1: Teddy's been gone, et cetera, et cetera, or how old
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 3: Whoah, you really caught that weight. I really are saying
Speaker 3: that this this is a blip.
Speaker 2: And on the official Chicago PD info she's twenty nine
Speaker 2: at this time or she would have.
Speaker 1: Been, yes, because they have her birthday, and I'm assuming
Speaker 1: the diehards who edit the Wikipedia for Chicago Beaty know
Speaker 1: when her birthday is, you know, yeah, and so like
Speaker 1: her birthday is like at eight, like in eighty seven,
Speaker 1: I think. And so at this time, she's twenty nine,
Speaker 1: not whatever, not twenty five. And also even living with
Speaker 1: your mentor, I think it's hard to go through the
Speaker 1: police academy and get all the way up to fucking
Speaker 1: detect him by twenty five.
Speaker 3: Twenty nine makes a lot more sense. It's still pretty young.
Speaker 1: But you got him, Yeah, I got you, guys, I
Speaker 1: got you good. She was fifteen when he disappeared, and
Speaker 1: Benson's like, what could you have done? Like, you couldn't
Speaker 1: have done anything. You didn't know where he was. You
Speaker 1: were fifteen years old. And I think she feels bad.
Speaker 1: She hasn't tried to find him since she's been a
Speaker 1: cop or whatever. So now they're at the West Village
Speaker 1: Piers and it's party time. Music is playing, people are dancing,
Speaker 1: they're laughing, they're waiting for customers. You know, everyone seems
Speaker 1: like they're having a pretty nice time, even though I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of trauma involved, Hall said, and
Speaker 1: Rawlins roll up and he's like, oh, this is like
Speaker 1: Boystown in Chicago, and he goes, yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like your wild West, and she goes yeah, except there's
Speaker 1: like five million dollar condos across the street.
Speaker 3: But you know, these kids have nowhere else to go.
Speaker 1: So Rollins flashes a flashlight at these two ladies and
Speaker 1: one goes, hey, Risolian Isles, turn that off.
Speaker 3: And I was obsessed with that light. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a reference to Rossolian Isles is in Angie Harmon,
Speaker 1: who's another law and ordered dejective, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: a law and order lawyer.
Speaker 3: It's kind of connected.
Speaker 1: But also Rosolian Isiles are two women, so it is
Speaker 1: funny that she's just like saying that to this man
Speaker 1: who's searching for her for flashing a flashlight in her face,
Speaker 1: because it's rollin'son Hall set at this point, and uh,
Speaker 1: they show a picture of Teddy to her, this funny lady,
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, he's cute. If you find him,
Speaker 1: let me know. And then Finn and Tomorrow are out
Speaker 1: looking as well, and they're showing a John. They're showing
Speaker 1: a John the picture and he clearly like has someone
Speaker 1: in the car, and he goes, sorry, not I type,
Speaker 1: and then Finn.
Speaker 3: Goes, zip it up, buddy. They just move on.
Speaker 1: I love how when they're like we're not with Dea
Speaker 1: or we don't care if you have drugs, they really
Speaker 1: mean it. They do not care that you're literally getting
Speaker 1: solicited right now. They're just like, we're looking for this
Speaker 1: one guy I on the prize. It's all soake, it's
Speaker 1: all fake.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then Amaro goes up to this woman in a
Speaker 1: car and goes she hops out, and she goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that's little Teddy. I haven't seen him in a while,
Speaker 1: but he parties really hard. So back to Hal said,
Speaker 1: and Rawlins at the piers and they roll up on
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who are kind of like maybe canoodling.
Speaker 3: Who know, they might just be friends. Who knows.
Speaker 1: One is in a mesh tank top, the other one's
Speaker 1: in a leather jacket. They tell leather jackets to scram.
Speaker 1: Mesh tank top turns around, he looks a little fucked up.
Speaker 1: He's offering to party with Rollins, and Hall said, being like,
Speaker 1: you know, guys want to do a threesome?
Speaker 3: I can be the bread.
Speaker 1: I can be the meat or the spread like he's
Speaker 1: really he seems Andra and he this is little Teddy.
Speaker 3: And I guess.
Speaker 1: Because I don't know how they clocked this guy at all.
Speaker 1: He looks nothing like the photo recognition or the young
Speaker 1: kid photos. He has a full beard now, which also
Speaker 1: changes someone's look, but they clock him, They're like, this
Speaker 1: is Teddy. He is played by lou Taylor Pucci, who
Speaker 1: works a lot.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: He broke out in the movie Thumbsucker, which I've never seen,
Speaker 1: and Casey's nodding because he's our movie library.
Speaker 3: And he was recently in the show of Physical.
Speaker 1: He was like a regular I think on Physical and
Speaker 1: then he's in Daredevil Colon Born again.
Speaker 3: So well.
Speaker 2: He was in one episode of Girls and it says,
Speaker 2: but I don't remember it, so I might actually rewatch
Speaker 2: the episode tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, because that.
Speaker 2: Guy is yeah, because I love Girls, and I really well.
Speaker 3: He also looks so.
Speaker 2: Different from this bearded character like his IMDb photo. He's
Speaker 2: a young fresh face.
Speaker 1: Google him, and every picture of him looks different like
Speaker 1: pictures of him when he was in Thumbsto.
Speaker 3: Looks so different.
Speaker 1: I mean like obviously everybody grows up, but he looks
Speaker 1: very different in all his photos, and the way he
Speaker 1: looks now is like also very like sort of like chisel,
Speaker 1: blondie surfer boy kind of. But h he's got a
Speaker 1: good chameleon quality to him. That's good for an actor
Speaker 1: to have. So they bring Teddy into the precinct and
Speaker 1: he and Lindsay see each other for the first time,
Speaker 1: and they stare at each other and she goes, hey, Teddy,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm not Teddy anymore. Fade to commercial drama.
Speaker 1: So now he's sitting in the bullpen and he like
Speaker 1: scoffs at Lindsay. He's like, they let you be a cop?
Speaker 1: Does she know what you were before? And then Olivia
Speaker 1: tries to interject and he goes, I wasn't talking to you,
Speaker 1: Mama bear, and I'm he must be high to talk
Speaker 1: to Olivia Benson like this, like you gotta be on
Speaker 1: something to think that you're just gonna And I will say,
Speaker 1: this is like the hair air off for Olivia Benson
Speaker 1: that I think makes her look a lot older. I
Speaker 1: don't think this hair is really doing her any favors
Speaker 1: at the time, and I feel as though right after
Speaker 1: this she gets into a much better place where it's longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: Also, I bet he's just not scared of her because
Speaker 2: he's been being abused for decades too.
Speaker 1: Of course, so I think when you're high, you're just like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to call this police sergeant, fucking mama bear
Speaker 1: and just do whatever I want, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: of course, but he'd I don't think this guy is
Speaker 1: used to He's not used to receiving any respect, and
Speaker 1: so I bet he's not giving any respect to anyone either,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, so you know, once in a while,
Speaker 1: Lindsay tries to get through to him and says, I
Speaker 1: really do want to help you, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: where were you when I was thirteen?
Speaker 3: Where was our alleged mother?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I don't know, I'm sorry, Like she
Speaker 1: didn't take care of me either, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well Voight took care of you. And then he goes,
Speaker 1: if you want to help me, give me the one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars you just cost me and let me go
Speaker 1: back with my friends.
Speaker 3: And Benson's like, well it's not.
Speaker 1: Happening, babe, because we have you on possession and solicitation
Speaker 1: and he refuses to talk to Lindsay or any of them,
Speaker 1: and this is this is tough. So in the next room,
Speaker 1: haul said is filling in Tomorrow and Rollins like, this
Speaker 1: has to be so tough for her bad childhood and
Speaker 1: now her brother like and he's like, she's the toughest
Speaker 1: cop I know. But he says it in a way
Speaker 1: that's like, I'm so in love with her, it's hurting
Speaker 1: me physically.
Speaker 3: And Rollin's and Tomorrow are.
Speaker 1: Immediately like, wo boy, okay, and he goes, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not like that.
Speaker 3: We just work together.
Speaker 1: And Tomorrow goes, we get it, and Rollins goes totally.
Speaker 1: And I think that's funny cause these two are somewhere
Speaker 1: in there. Season fifteen is when he's in her apartment
Speaker 1: getting in the shower, so we know they've fucked him
Speaker 1: season fifteen. But there's in season sixteen where we are
Speaker 1: right now there's a nebulous portion of whether Amorrow and
Speaker 1: Rollins are fucking because when she announces her pregnancy at
Speaker 1: the beginning of season seventeen, which we obviously know is
Speaker 1: declan Murphy's everybody people kind of think it's tomorrow's so
Speaker 1: they could be fucking in this episode for.
Speaker 3: All we know, Like we're just not that. It's just
Speaker 3: not touch in this episode.
Speaker 1: So in Holding Now, liv brings Teddy a blanket and
Speaker 1: she's like, listen, I want to get you out of here,
Speaker 1: but like I do need your help, and she's trying
Speaker 1: to get him to open up. She's telling him, listen,
Speaker 1: like the people that hurt you are hurting other kids.
Speaker 1: She shows him a picture of Henry, like you got
Speaker 1: to help me help this boy, like, and Teddy's like
Speaker 1: it's too late, and she's like, it's not too late.
Speaker 1: We talked to Joscelyn and she's doing great. And the
Speaker 1: mention of Joscelyn kind of like shakes him a little
Speaker 1: bit and he just goes, thanks for the blanket, and
Speaker 1: then he just cold shoulders her like he's not talking
Speaker 1: to her. And then, because I think you think Benson
Speaker 1: thought that was her ace in the hole that she
Speaker 1: was going to say Joscelyn, Who's going to be like what?
Speaker 3: But it didn't work.
Speaker 1: So now her and Lindsay are strategizing how to get
Speaker 1: him to open up, like maybe he can fide it
Speaker 1: in their mom and Lindsay's like, if he did, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't remember, and then Rollins goes, well, we talked to
Speaker 1: Joscelyn and she might know more, like and so they
Speaker 1: go speak to her and she tells them that when
Speaker 1: Teddy was thirteen, he was the victim of a sex
Speaker 1: trafficking ring, and Jocelyn is like so shaken. She goes,
Speaker 1: he was the victim, and then she gathers all her
Speaker 1: shit up and rushes off, and Rollins is, like, she
Speaker 1: got arrested at fourteen for hooking, so this is probably
Speaker 1: how she got turned out, Like she was probably part
Speaker 1: of this ring too, Like we're all it's all assume
Speaker 1: that anybody could have been part of this ring and
Speaker 1: that's how they knew each other. So they go to
Speaker 1: special Agent O'Connell who ran Joscelyn's pick through their database,
Speaker 1: and he said he hit a jackpot of bad like
Speaker 1: she was horribly abused by this chess and checkers club
Speaker 1: as well. They see video of Teddy on tape about
Speaker 1: to sexually assault Jocelyn, though it's clear he's like being
Speaker 1: forced or he's just so traumatized, like you know, but
Speaker 1: he's at this point in the video he's an adult
Speaker 1: and she's fourteen, but they recognize him by the tattoo
Speaker 1: on the back of his neck. And now Benson is
Speaker 1: confronting Teddy about this, shows him the pictures of the
Speaker 1: video where his star tattoo is like very obvious. He says,
Speaker 1: just another day at the office, like very flippant, and
Speaker 1: they're like, honey, that's a child, so that's rape and
Speaker 1: it could mean twenty years in jail for you. And
Speaker 1: he's like laying into Lindsay like some big sister you are,
Speaker 1: like you ignored me for years and now you just
Speaker 1: want to put me in jail. And he's like, nobody
Speaker 1: made me do this, and Benson goes, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: know it wasn't your choice, Like they drugged you, they
Speaker 1: broke you, they twisted you. And Lindsay's like, this isn't you,
Speaker 1: Like you were the sweetest boy.
Speaker 3: You could never hurt anyone. And he's like, but I did.
Speaker 1: I had to and they're like, but they forced you,
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, it was my idea because I
Speaker 1: knew who they would send in to do that to her.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't me, they would send in someone older,
Speaker 1: someone rougher, and she wasn't ready for that.
Speaker 3: We were friends. Like I literally just got like goosebumps.
Speaker 3: It's like so awful.
Speaker 1: It's like so awful that he did commit a crime,
Speaker 1: but he knew that he was honestly mitigating the attack
Speaker 1: on her that could have been so much worse. So
Speaker 1: he eventually went out on his own and got away
Speaker 1: from this club and he was arrested a year later,
Speaker 1: and that's when he saw Jocelyn at the center. He
Speaker 1: didn't know what to say to her, and they're like,
Speaker 1: help us stop these people, and he's pissed.
Speaker 3: He's like, what do you want? I was a kid.
Speaker 3: I didn't know where I was. I didn't know anyone's name.
Speaker 1: I was in a dark room on a lousy mattress,
Speaker 1: eating corn chips. And then he says, when I wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, and they it gets cut off, but he's like, basically.
Speaker 3: When he wasn't being horribly abused.
Speaker 1: So he says, it happened in a bunch of crappy places,
Speaker 1: different men coming and going, and he said, but there
Speaker 1: was one guy that everyone was scared of. He was
Speaker 1: never come, never on camera, but he says he would
Speaker 1: just come in at night and do me in the
Speaker 1: dark sometimes. And he was just a white, average middle
Speaker 1: aged guy. But everybody was scared of this dude. And
Speaker 1: the first time he said that he went to the
Speaker 1: youth center, he hated it. And then there was a
Speaker 1: guy there who said, I know a place where you
Speaker 1: could get out, make some money and have your own room.
Speaker 1: And they're like, what guy, uh oh, remember the Remember
Speaker 1: George the security guard. Cut to the lady from the
Speaker 1: center who we talked to before going. George, our security guard.
Speaker 1: He's been with us for years. He loves the kids.
Speaker 1: He talks to them, and it's like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: They're like, one kid, what about this one kid, Henry.
Speaker 1: They're like, George said he ran away a week ago.
Speaker 1: Like at this point, have we even made the connection
Speaker 1: that Henry was at the center, Like they didn't even
Speaker 1: show Henry's picture to this woman the first time, so fuck,
Speaker 1: this is so dark. They show the picture to the
Speaker 1: woman and she goes, yep, that's Henry. Like they don't
Speaker 1: even know we could be looking for this kid's parents.
Speaker 1: We haven't even idd this kid besides knowing that his
Speaker 1: name is Henry. And this woman fully we talked to
Speaker 1: her already days ago. Where's George now? They peep George
Speaker 1: on the security camera, grabbing his jacket and making a
Speaker 1: run for it. You know, the cops are there and
Speaker 1: he's out okay, and they chase him down the street
Speaker 1: and Aaron Lindsay.
Speaker 3: Gets hit by a bicyclist.
Speaker 1: Like she just gets fully put down on the ground
Speaker 1: by a cyclist. I mean, yeah, bikes are going fast,
Speaker 1: they're heavy, like they're coming at you. She gets knocked over,
Speaker 1: and this stupid security fuck thinks he's gonna take down Benson.
Speaker 3: He like lunges at her. She grabs his arm.
Speaker 1: Turns him around and flips his whole ass to the ground.
Speaker 1: And you know, Marisia Cargata was like, I'm doing this
Speaker 1: stunt myself, and I want the camera on my face.
Speaker 3: Because you can see her all the time she's.
Speaker 1: Doing it, Like I don't want there to be any
Speaker 1: like fucking question that it was me and not a
Speaker 1: stunt double who did this.
Speaker 3: So they get this guy. Lindsey stands up and they're like,
Speaker 3: are you okay?
Speaker 1: And she touches the back of her head and she
Speaker 1: pulls her hand out and she's got a ton of
Speaker 1: blood on her hand, so she faints I don't know
Speaker 1: if she can't see blood or she's just losing a
Speaker 1: lot of it, but she faints.
Speaker 3: So now we're in the hospital.
Speaker 1: RFK Junior is at her bedside like okay or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she's.
Speaker 3: Like, well, you came all this way for nothing. I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to SBU And he's like, you have
Speaker 1: a concussion. You're going back to Chicago and she's like,
Speaker 1: what about Teddy? And boy goes, you did your part.
Speaker 1: I should have looked out for Teddy. So now it
Speaker 1: feels like Void is tapping in, Like he goes to
Speaker 1: meet Olivia and this is their first time meeting in person.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen these two talk on the phone
Speaker 1: with each other, we have obviously earlier in this episode,
Speaker 1: but they haven't met before. So this is them meeting
Speaker 1: and she updates him as they're watching a live stream
Speaker 1: of Henry getting abused again. And Henry his name is
Speaker 1: Henry Thorny's twelve. This pedophile ring has had him for
Speaker 1: a week. So as they're watching it, we hear the
Speaker 1: purp off camera go club members requests for genre activities
Speaker 1: starting now, credit card or bitcoin. Tonight is going to
Speaker 1: be a good one. He's like casually promoting it like
Speaker 1: it's a comedy show.
Speaker 3: He's like, don't.
Speaker 1: Forget, like you know, first drink is free, like, and
Speaker 1: he is teasing this show that's happening in I think
Speaker 1: like three hours. So now it starts a countdown clock,
Speaker 1: which they love to do on these shows to heighten
Speaker 1: the state. I love to watch. Yeah, I like a countdown.
Speaker 1: I love when they're like, we've only got two more hours.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would like the pit in twenty four. I
Speaker 1: from so into count The pit is good. The pit
Speaker 1: is good. Twenty four I'm not as interested in, but
Speaker 1: the pit is good. And people that are doctors in
Speaker 1: er say that it's the closest to a real life experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's some of it.
Speaker 3: Watch Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm into these count I'm like thinking about countdown things.
Speaker 3: I can watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also was thinking, like how much money
Speaker 2: could you make as a child? You would travel like that,
Speaker 2: you would do that, that your morals would go so out.
Speaker 2: And then I started thinking about ice, and then I
Speaker 2: was thinking, like some people want to do that. It's
Speaker 2: not even like, oh, I'll do it for the money.
Speaker 2: And I know it's bad. Like I think they're like, hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, well when we find out who
Speaker 1: does this, yeah, there's some stuff but to say, but like, yes,
Speaker 1: I do think some people are in it for like
Speaker 1: the love of the game, unfortunately, and then some people
Speaker 1: are like and they're like, well, I might as well
Speaker 1: make money because other people want this service that I
Speaker 1: can provide and that can only protect me more because
Speaker 1: money and buys power, which protects you more.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So this guy is, you know, telling everybody get your
Speaker 1: requests in.
Speaker 3: It's maybe five hours.
Speaker 1: You've got a few hours before the show tonight that
Speaker 1: they have to wear. And Henry looks traumatized, and they're
Speaker 1: bringing Georgie in for questioning. So now George's and cement
Speaker 1: room bars with rollins, and tomorrow they show him what's
Speaker 1: going on with Henry. They show him like on the
Speaker 1: iPad and uh, He's like.
Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: These kids run away and like these two are trying
Speaker 1: like a nice guy act on him. They're like, come on,
Speaker 1: you're a family man, you're a good guy, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am. And I actually recognize the guy playing George,
Speaker 1: and I knew I recognized him. His name is Danny
Speaker 1: Mastro Georgio and he's been on all three Law and Orders,
Speaker 1: but he's.
Speaker 3: Been on he's been in two svus.
Speaker 1: One is uh Ballad of Dwight and he Rena okay,
Speaker 1: where he is the lawyer. Remember how Ricky has like
Speaker 1: a really shitty lawyer that keeps being like, be quiet, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: That's this guy, George. God, yeah, this is Danny Mastro Georgio.
Speaker 1: And then he's in the Home Invasions episode as well,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, I don't remember what character, but
Speaker 1: he's the attorney Tommy Calabrese in the episode of Ballad
Speaker 1: of dreydon Arena.
Speaker 3: So anyway, George is denied, deny, deny.
Speaker 1: Void and Benson are watching and Voight is like making
Speaker 1: digs about like how light and nice the detectives are being.
Speaker 3: He's like, why don't you Why don't you take him
Speaker 3: to dinner? Why don't you dance with him?
Speaker 1: And Finn calls live with an update. A kid at
Speaker 1: the center saw Henry get into a gray SUV the
Speaker 1: day he disappeared with New York plates. I don't know
Speaker 1: how I mean that helps a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 1: there's probably a million of those in New York. She's like,
Speaker 1: check traffic cams. Voight decides to go into the room
Speaker 1: and help out.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the reciprocity is with police departments
Speaker 1: going across state lines, especially city police departments, like being like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just a Chicago police I'm just going to go
Speaker 1: into this interrogation room and do what I want, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's like a thing. But he goes
Speaker 1: in with big stabler energy, like I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 3: We do things a little differently there, and.
Speaker 1: He starts pushing the guy around, slams them against a
Speaker 1: wall on a table. Benson has to go in and
Speaker 1: do a whole Kragan style my office now. Then in
Speaker 1: the office, he's like, what are people doing rationalize project minimize?
Speaker 1: I read your handbook. It's bullshit, and Benson goes, it works,
Speaker 1: and he goes, so does terrorizing people when it's called for.
Speaker 1: So this guy's got a real anger problem. And she goes,
Speaker 1: I get it. I had a partner who used to
Speaker 1: work like that, and sometimes it worked and other times
Speaker 1: it led to false confessions and overturned convictions. And he says,
Speaker 1: what happens in the box stays in the box.
Speaker 3: It's like, this isn't Guantanamo.
Speaker 1: And he's like, maybe in Chicago, and she goes, maybe
Speaker 1: in Chicago, but you're in New York City now, And reminder,
Speaker 1: you're here as a courtesy, so if you pull that
Speaker 1: crap again, I'll arrest you. Meanwhile, the live stream is
Speaker 1: like a karaoke DJ, just being like, get your requests
Speaker 1: in now, three hours till showtime.
Speaker 3: It's just like on in the background.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to say not to bring up lad
Speaker 2: Bible again, but I watched an interview with the guy
Speaker 2: from the CIA that was the whistleblower on torture being used,
Speaker 2: and he served a little over two years in prison.
Speaker 2: But he's the one that blew the lid off, and
Speaker 2: so I need to secrets.
Speaker 1: Don't get why you have to get prison time for
Speaker 1: exposing people doing bad things.
Speaker 2: Well, because it's being a trader to your government. But
Speaker 2: they were doing something bad. Yeah, but the government knew.
Speaker 1: You're a trader to your You're a trader to your
Speaker 1: government if you go help Russia, not if you say, hey,
Speaker 1: our guys are doing bad shit.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not on the side of this, Yeah, happened.
Speaker 2: If I want him.
Speaker 1: Free, I know you're not anti whistle blowing. I watched
Speaker 1: he had two parts. I watched both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was talking about cool things of how
Speaker 2: you do stuff, and he had an opportunity to kill
Speaker 2: someone but save them that day. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 2: already spilled the secrets.
Speaker 3: He could do whatever. So it was interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean with men, is that I am more suspicious
Speaker 2: of them lying and over exaggerating. Yeah, but I trusted
Speaker 2: him because he went to prison, okay, and he said
Speaker 2: Russia is really good at sleeper cells, that there it's real,
Speaker 2: and that they're we watched the Americans.
Speaker 3: Man, come on, not that that's like a documentary.
Speaker 2: But no, but yeah, but he said it is a
Speaker 2: thing because he was answering questions and so there was
Speaker 2: you know that people like us would want to know.
Speaker 3: That was cool. Do I remember his name? No?
Speaker 1: But no. So anyway, Voight goes, if you got a
Speaker 1: better idea to make progress, I'm all ears and show him.
Speaker 3: Live, show him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now the last scene, it was three hours still showtime.
Speaker 1: Now it's two hours still showtime, and no one can
Speaker 1: trace the feed. The youth Center's looking for Henry's parents,
Speaker 1: and Finn's like why so they can see this, like
Speaker 1: why are you finding the parents live in void in
Speaker 1: cement room bars showing the live stream to George and
Speaker 1: they're telling him, you know you're gonna get in trouble
Speaker 1: for selling this kid, and he's like denying, denying, and
Speaker 1: Benson threatens to leave Georgian there with Voight and he goes, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no any caves and they said. He goes, look, they
Speaker 1: said they needed young actors and they're like, you're that stupid,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I make twelve dollars an hour.
Speaker 3: I have a kid in college, and they gave me
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: When I send them someone, it is like sad how
Speaker 1: It's like he makes twelve bucks an hour. He's got
Speaker 1: a kid in college. You know he's desperate, but he's
Speaker 1: selling children. And Live tries to guilt him to be like,
Speaker 1: so your kid goes to college, but the boy you
Speaker 1: sold she can't even finish. Voight just slams his hand
Speaker 1: on the table and is like commanding George to talk more.
Speaker 1: He goes, look, I get a call once in a while.
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy's name. I get he brings
Speaker 1: the money. When the kid gets picked up, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he takes them. He goes, we
Speaker 1: need more, and so George racks his brain and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: he was mad. I was late the other day and
Speaker 1: he said he'd have to beat traffic home and pay
Speaker 1: a double toll twenty two point fifty.
Speaker 3: He took it out of my money.
Speaker 1: George is madd he lost twenty two to fifty and
Speaker 1: his deal handing children over to a sex ring psycho.
Speaker 1: So they're bringing Teddy down to ask him more questions.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Voight is like, so I can't beat this guy up,
Speaker 1: but you could threaten that I'm going to beat this
Speaker 1: guy up. And she goes, well, I'm using the cards
Speaker 1: that i'm dealt, you know. She's like, as long as
Speaker 1: I don't lift her finger, i'm good, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think it's sexually smart, so smart play. She knows
Speaker 1: she's got this guy on a leash, but why not say,
Speaker 1: you know, my dog could still bite you. So Voight
Speaker 1: says hello to Teddy, apologizes to not for not keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on him, and he goes, I'm not as
Speaker 1: pretty as Aaron and He's like, I didn't know you
Speaker 1: were going to disappear, and he goes, well, presto, I'm here,
Speaker 1: and Live breaks this up.
Speaker 3: They need Teddy's help.
Speaker 1: Anything in this room where Henry is being held, does
Speaker 1: any of it look familiar? And he's like, no, I
Speaker 1: left that life a while ago and I don't recognize anything.
Speaker 1: And they were like, maybe we should take another run
Speaker 1: at Jocelyn. She's younger, she was in the ring more recently,
Speaker 1: maybe she'll recognize some of this stuff. But Rollins is like,
Speaker 1: she was pretty uncooperative and traumatized and did not want
Speaker 1: to talk to us, like she will not come in here,
Speaker 1: and Voyd goes ar wrestler, Yeah, just arrestor and obviously
Speaker 1: not an SVU guy, and they go we don't have
Speaker 1: anything on her, and he goes good point, and then
Speaker 1: he says to Live, how good are you at undercover?
Speaker 1: I don't know how he came up with this idea.
Speaker 1: It's like so weird. But Amara and Rollins approached Jocelyn
Speaker 1: studying in a coffee shop. She does not want to
Speaker 1: talk to them, and they're like, well tell that to them,
Speaker 1: and then they point over their shoulder to Live and
Speaker 1: Void who are posing as mister and missus Thorn, Henry's parents.
Speaker 1: They're just sitting there distraught, looking like two people missing
Speaker 1: their child. They sit with her and they give her
Speaker 1: the whole You're our last hopeful song and Dance Live.
Speaker 1: Is crying, she's begging. Voight shows her a picture of Henry.
Speaker 1: Joscelyn looks stressed, but I guess it works out because
Speaker 1: the next thing we see is Jocelyn and the precinct
Speaker 1: and they bring her in to say hi to Teddy,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Why would you make a victim look
Speaker 1: at their perpetrator. I don't understand. I don't care that
Speaker 1: he was like her friend and trying to do the
Speaker 1: best thing for her, Like I understand that putting them
Speaker 1: in a room together is so nuts. And Jocelyn is
Speaker 1: obviously upset, and Teddy apologizes and she's like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even in my body. My mind was floating
Speaker 1: on the ceiling. I don't remember anything, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: We talked.
Speaker 1: I used to call you mouse. I gave you one
Speaker 1: of my twinkies, and she goes, you gave me both
Speaker 1: of your twinkies. And it's like they she goes, I
Speaker 1: thought we were friends. Why did you do that to me?
Speaker 1: And he goes, it was better if it was me
Speaker 1: and not somebody else. And Rollins asked Jocelyn to take
Speaker 1: a look at the stream of Henry to see if
Speaker 1: the room looks familiar. That room, she says, I was there.
Speaker 1: It's a room from after Teddy left. But I know
Speaker 1: we drove across a long bridge to get to it.
Speaker 1: I was blindfolded by her. Remember tires on metal. So
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is like Stabler with the Catholic schools. He knows
Speaker 1: all the bridges, and he knows how much all their
Speaker 1: tolls cost. So they figure out very quickly that this
Speaker 1: bridge must be the Staten Island, which I think is
Speaker 1: the Verizono. But like that, it's the bridge to Staten Island,
Speaker 1: so Jocelyn says, and the voice that guy's name is Bob.
Speaker 2: No, isn't Verazano the green Point one? Or No, what's
Speaker 2: the green Point one? Doesn't it have a funny name?
Speaker 2: That one is called the the Peter?
Speaker 3: Is it Peter?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Verrazano goes from Brooklyn to Staten Island. But what's the
Speaker 1: one I'm thinking of in green Point? Yeah, Pulaski. Is
Speaker 1: it not Pulaski, Yeah, Pulaski, Pulaski. Yeah, because that's like
Speaker 1: we would sometimes walk like from the Creek into Manhattan
Speaker 1: over the Pulaski.
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh no, I thought it goes to Williams.
Speaker 2: There's one that goes from work or from.
Speaker 1: Greenbrook to the Creek or something. I think, yeah, back
Speaker 1: to like comics houses, you know. So anyway, we're figuring
Speaker 1: it all out. Satn Island Bridge. Jocelyn identified the shock.
Speaker 3: It's Bridge Stock.
Speaker 1: Jocelyn says. The voice in the live stream is Bob.
Speaker 1: And Teddy gets upset and Jocelyn is like, you know
Speaker 1: this guy, he's the one who chained me down for you.
Speaker 1: And this whole time they're just like all listening to
Speaker 1: Henry's scream and begged to be let go, like this
Speaker 1: is awful. Like the poor kid that had to play
Speaker 1: this part. He just had to scream let me go, please,
Speaker 1: I don't want to I want I want to go home,
Speaker 1: like all like over and over, and Rollins is like,
Speaker 1: is this the guy everyone's scared of? And Teddy's like, no,
Speaker 1: not Bob. Bob was just a pig. He'd make me
Speaker 1: get his Chinese food by the end, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you remember the last name on the orders and
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, he's like the name of a president
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, like Bush or Reagan. He goes
Speaker 1: the one with the trumpet and they're like the saxophone
Speaker 1: Clinton And I'm like, wow, that for Bill Clinton to
Speaker 1: now be referenced in a pedophile ring episode of s
Speaker 1: View is just very has aged. It's a reference that
Speaker 1: has definitely aged.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: I also saw this one post where you know, this
Speaker 2: woman was like ever like when right wing people are
Speaker 2: like what about Bill Clinton?
Speaker 3: And she's like, I was in third grade. I did
Speaker 3: not vote for Bill Clinton. Clinton. The thought that you
Speaker 3: think I have.
Speaker 2: This like roman like love for Bill Clinton. I was
Speaker 2: a child, But I do remember liking because I like
Speaker 2: the cat. I like socks the cat. Yeah, I really
Speaker 2: remember the cat. I had a magnet. I had a
Speaker 2: sox magnet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like watching an old SNL recently and it
Speaker 1: was like I forgot that they just made fun of
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton for being fat.
Speaker 3: Every single fucking week.
Speaker 1: They would just literally have him jogging and eating burgers
Speaker 1: while he was jogging, and shit, like they just were
Speaker 1: constantly like I mean before the Lewinsky stuff, I guess,
Speaker 1: and then that you know, probably took over.
Speaker 3: Uh, but so now they're looking for Bob Clinton.
Speaker 2: Wait do you know that lin Sarah Paulson who played
Speaker 2: Linda Tripp, and that thing was on Monica Lewinsky's podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they.
Speaker 2: Talk about like Monica Lewinsky's like, oh, that scene where
Speaker 2: we were out to lunch, like I didn't realize everyone
Speaker 2: was an agent, like a secret, like I was all
Speaker 2: a setup, like and she just thought she was going
Speaker 2: to lunch with her friend and she's just talking and
Speaker 2: then she can't she has to be a little more diplomatic.
Speaker 2: But Sarah Paulson got to keep talking shit about Linda Trip.
Speaker 3: But it was cool. Yeah, Oh I got to listen
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like I would like Monica Lewinsky's podcast
Speaker 1: because I really like everything she tweets.
Speaker 3: And I think she's really smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not that I'm on Twitter anymore, But when
Speaker 1: I was, I followed her, and I think she's she's
Speaker 1: cool because a lot of women in what Monica Lewins
Speaker 1: you went through would have like faded into the background
Speaker 1: and gone into hiding.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like octomom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just become like totally and she has like
Speaker 1: really made a cool career for herself and is a smart,
Speaker 1: accomplished woman. And it's just she's just like very confident
Speaker 1: and I like like.
Speaker 3: She was twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, like a kid and the butt of
Speaker 1: the nation's jokes, like anyway back to that.
Speaker 2: But it does it's not even that crazy because you
Speaker 2: they just wanted Tony. You know, there's people now, they're
Speaker 2: like kids, kids can consent. If the kids want to vote,
Speaker 2: they should be able to you know.
Speaker 3: Like people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, crazy but yeah, because I feel yeah, people
Speaker 2: take seen year old is okay, Yeah, take your your
Speaker 2: friend's just dressed and hand it over. But yeah, Linda
Speaker 2: thought she that's the thing when you serve the patriarchy,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Ever win. She thought she was like doing something cool.
Speaker 1: Oh, Linda Tripp ultimate pick me a government picked me
Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, oh my god. So they are looking
Speaker 1: now for Bob Clinton in Staten Island with a gray SUV.
Speaker 1: So Halston and Rowlands are watching the stream and suddenly
Speaker 1: Rollins goes, I have something and we don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. But she suddenly directs them to this very
Speaker 1: specific place in Eltingville. And as they're watching the stream
Speaker 1: and a guy is like about to assault Henry, the
Speaker 1: cops bust in. Void screams, freeze, get your hands up.
Speaker 1: They've got the guy down on the ground. Two more
Speaker 1: guys run Tomorrow and Finn grab them outside. Henry looks terrified,
Speaker 1: but Benson's there to help him, thank god, and he's like,
Speaker 1: he just wants to go home, and like he's gonna
Speaker 1: get to you know, he's gonna I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be traumatized. But he got out before the big fucking
Speaker 1: whatever show was about to happen any minute. So now
Speaker 1: and the final act of the episode, in the precinct,
Speaker 1: they're delivering these guys. Bob and these two other guys
Speaker 1: are tech support. They don't know anything. I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: helping do this stream. You don't know a single thing
Speaker 1: that's happening. They don't show you what's happening. You don't
Speaker 1: see any of the video. They know enough they should
Speaker 1: go to jail. They were crying in the car. They
Speaker 1: have nothing to offer, or they like they would have
Speaker 1: offered it up if they did for a deal, you know,
Speaker 1: So they're bad guys, but they're not like running the
Speaker 1: actual they're not you know, but they're helping with the tech.
Speaker 3: So bad.
Speaker 1: But Rollins comes in and shows them the bad news.
Speaker 1: The site is up and running and it's got a
Speaker 1: tune in card up with a little girl's picture on it.
Speaker 1: So they didn't get the head of the snake and
Speaker 1: the head of the snake is still operating from who
Speaker 1: knows where. They need to find the guy. Everyone is
Speaker 1: this guy that everyone is afraid of, and they need
Speaker 1: this guy Bob to give him up. So now we're
Speaker 1: in with Bob and he's trying to act like the
Speaker 1: kid came with him voluntarily, nothing happened. This is all
Speaker 1: of the up and up. It's like wild how they
Speaker 1: try to act like voluntarily, you were about to rape
Speaker 1: a kid on camera, Like what do you think the
Speaker 1: cops are going to go?
Speaker 3: Oh, we didn't realize that we're going to go.
Speaker 1: So they're like, you know, tell us who the boss
Speaker 1: is and he goes, you don't know, get a da
Speaker 1: down here. I know things people you'll never find without
Speaker 1: my help, and I want full immunity or I walk,
Speaker 1: and Benson goes, we'll think about it. Meanwhile, I'll send
Speaker 1: you to the tombs and let you think about your options.
Speaker 1: People get a lot of clarity there. So Tomorrow reports
Speaker 1: that Henry's parents have been found. Jocelyn went back to
Speaker 1: school and doesn't want to see any of these cops
Speaker 1: ever again in her life. Teddy is sleeping and Benson's like,
Speaker 1: well wake him up. We got to see if he
Speaker 1: can id Clinton. So then Hall said is heading back
Speaker 1: to Chicago, and voices like, I'm going to stick around
Speaker 1: and see if I can help you. Guys turn Clinton
Speaker 1: and the DA is going to be there in an hour.
Speaker 1: They'll review options, and voices like I want to crack
Speaker 1: it him first, and I don't think you're going to
Speaker 1: get that. And then Benson gets a phone call that
Speaker 1: was the tombs. Someone beat you to it. In the tombs,
Speaker 1: we see Bob Clinton dead on the shower floor in
Speaker 1: a pool of blood, and Rollins is like, this is
Speaker 1: what you call protective custody, and the guy there is
Speaker 1: like the CEO stepped away for two minutes and when
Speaker 1: he came back, Clinton was shimmed in the neck. The
Speaker 1: guy who did it is named Lester Davis. We need
Speaker 1: to see his call logs. And visitors' logs. Guess what,
Speaker 1: he only got one call that morning from a throwaway
Speaker 1: cell phone that was sold in Chicago. So then Voight
Speaker 1: gets a call. It's Lindsay with bad news. Andrew Llewellyn, who,
Speaker 1: if you'll remember, is the guy where they found the
Speaker 1: original photos in the Chicago fire episode of all these
Speaker 1: awful photos. He and the cop that was guarding him
Speaker 1: were just shot to death twenty minutes ago. Everyone is stunned,
Speaker 1: and you know, this is the point in the show
Speaker 1: where usually somebody goes, they're cleaning house, right, like they're
Speaker 1: just killing everybody that's alive that's been part of this.
Speaker 1: Everyone's done, and Benson goes, you know, that's snakehead. You
Speaker 1: were talking about the head of the snake that's in Chicago.
Speaker 1: And Voight tells Lindsay, I'm coming home, and that's Dick Wolf.
Speaker 3: So I watched the whole episode.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you a full recap on the episode
Speaker 1: because this is not a Chicago Pea podcast, but if
Speaker 1: you want to watch how this ends up, it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good episode. It's season two, episode seven. You'll have
Speaker 1: to go through me of Chicago pe d Rollin's and
Speaker 1: tomorrow get to go on a little lover's retreat to
Speaker 1: the Windy City, baby, And Chicago PD is really taking
Speaker 1: this personally because one of their own cops was killed,
Speaker 1: Like they're really upset, Like everyone is like, you find
Speaker 1: this guy, I'll dig the ditch myself, Like everyone's.
Speaker 3: Fucking really upset that this cop has been killed.
Speaker 1: So and he was like long on the job, had kids,
Speaker 1: you know, all the reasons why you're sad somebody dies.
Speaker 1: And then at one point they're trying to get some
Speaker 1: information out of her nurse and she won't talk to them,
Speaker 1: and Tomorrow does his whole like thendes too.
Speaker 3: Like he goes, where are you from?
Speaker 1: And then he goes, uh, Kubano poodle baby like like
Speaker 1: she fucking that.
Speaker 3: Like we're like, yeah, it's funny that that works so easily. Everything.
Speaker 1: He is really hot and just was speaking Spanish to
Speaker 1: her and she's Cuban and he's Cuban and she's like
Speaker 1: sliding out of her scrubs.
Speaker 3: And she's like, I'll tell you anything you want, okay.
Speaker 2: So he is one of our guests. I mean it's
Speaker 2: one of two guests that have cried on the pod.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both hot I think both of our guests that
Speaker 1: have cried are hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Casey, you see, do you not remember the other
Speaker 2: one or you don't remember that Bobby Burke Robert John
Speaker 2: Burke teared up.
Speaker 3: Tucker, Yeah, I think he's hot. Okay. He is so
Speaker 3: shocked by the people that we think are hot.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 1: But but Amorrow, No, But every time I say a person,
Speaker 1: I feel, you're like this guy, Danny Pino is like hot,
Speaker 1: hot hot. I don't like Tomorrow as a guy, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like Amorrow is like, you know, he's in a museum
Speaker 1: of hotness.
Speaker 3: Uh, Robin's and Tomorrow are there. Okay. So they get
Speaker 3: this woman the info from the nurse whatever.
Speaker 1: They basically start to track this whole ring, and they
Speaker 1: get them to they get to these two foster kids,
Speaker 1: and Aaron actually finds out through this research that Teddy
Speaker 1: was in the system. She didn't even know that he
Speaker 1: was a foster kid because she just was like, I
Speaker 1: was told he went to go live with his dad, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know where he was.
Speaker 3: I was like a teen, you know.
Speaker 1: So they find eventually pretty quickly in the episode the
Speaker 1: little girl that they're looking for these two foster kids
Speaker 1: that are missing, and they find the little girl and
Speaker 1: her and Sophia Bush have sort of like a Beck
Speaker 1: and l Fanning kind of relationship, you know, but the
Speaker 1: little boy, Chris is still missing. Eventually, Benson comes to Chicago.
Speaker 1: She comes to Chicago with this tiny, little leather Duffel bag.
Speaker 1: I'm like, where's all your fabulous outerwear gonna fit you're
Speaker 1: in Chicago, Like that is not a big enough bag.
Speaker 1: But Teddy comes out to Chicago too. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole gang is out in Chicago. And when they're at
Speaker 1: the precinct reviewing field trips, I'm like, there's somewhere else.
Speaker 1: When they get to travel, like even when they get
Speaker 1: to go to like Florida, they're like in like a shithole.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is so fun. You think Benson's
Speaker 1: he is cool across I do get excited.
Speaker 3: I get excited. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Teddy's in the precinct in Chicago and he suddenly
Speaker 1: like locks eyes on something and and is pointing at
Speaker 1: like probably their suspect board. And he basically Id's this
Speaker 1: guy named Van Camp who works at DCFS and uses
Speaker 1: his position there to procure kids for this ring.
Speaker 3: And he is the leader of this ring.
Speaker 1: But he's just this schlubby, old white guy like was
Speaker 1: described by Teddy originally.
Speaker 3: And if he's making a lot of money on this ring,
Speaker 3: he's not using.
Speaker 1: It on his clothes. He does lot he's got like
Speaker 1: he's balding. He just looks like a So this is
Speaker 1: the kind of guy. To me, It's like, you're still
Speaker 1: maintaining your job at DCFS and like, I know that's
Speaker 1: how you get Like to me, you've probably made enough
Speaker 1: money at this point and you can procure people through
Speaker 1: other means that you could stop. But you I think
Speaker 1: this guy likes to be in this position at DCFS
Speaker 1: where he can has access to all these kids. You know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about who does this and why, Like
Speaker 1: I don't you know he's a pedophile, But he's also
Speaker 1: like I think the money part for him is probably
Speaker 1: just for protection because I don't think he cares about
Speaker 1: having wealth. He cares about being able to molest as
Speaker 1: many kids as he can. So Benson has to once
Speaker 1: again ask Voight not to beat the shit out of
Speaker 1: this guy to find out where little Chris is.
Speaker 2: So, so did you talk about like when Teddy points
Speaker 2: to it slowly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he points to it in his eyes wide
Speaker 1: and he walks towards it and that's really Yeah, it's Screa.
Speaker 1: And that's when we find out that it's this guy
Speaker 1: Van Camp and he won't talk to Voight, and then
Speaker 1: Benson tries takes a shot at him, and she obviously
Speaker 1: has her ways and she gets him to say where
Speaker 1: Chris is and uh, he gives up the location.
Speaker 3: And kills it.
Speaker 2: One of her best speeches. So have one of our
Speaker 2: best speeches in Chicago p D. Yeah, it's tough, but
Speaker 2: it's a good one.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy too that they're highlighting how you can
Speaker 1: actually get things done not being a violent psycho look
Speaker 1: way that Voight is, and they're doing it on his show,
Speaker 1: So why doesn't does that change that character anymore after?
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, if he starts to do things
Speaker 1: in a different way because they're only in their second season.
Speaker 3: But the guy gets up the location of Chris.
Speaker 1: They find him obviously in like a horrible basement of
Speaker 1: like a burnt out house, per usual. There's a dramatic
Speaker 1: service for the cop who died. Teddy is going to
Speaker 1: stay with Lindsay and the mom in Chicago, and he's
Speaker 1: just like incredulous because he's like, I just never thought
Speaker 1: these guys would be caught. I just didn't think that.
Speaker 1: I just thought this was going to keep going forever.
Speaker 1: And the family's all crying and apologizing, and they seem
Speaker 1: to be like in a better place. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's Dick Wolf on Chicago p D Baby. So we
Speaker 1: find the guy and it's a fucking DCFS guy who's
Speaker 1: so scary that but how are you moving back and
Speaker 1: forth to New York City as like this DCFS guy anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Somehow he's bouncing back and forth because
Speaker 1: that's where they had. Henry was in New York San Island.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like maybe it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: he sets up like satellite things and like so Bob
Speaker 1: Clinton was doing his New York work and then other
Speaker 1: people's doing other work for him. But it's it's just discussed.
Speaker 1: It's shocked and disgusting that it's such a quote unquote
Speaker 1: normal seeming guy. It's not some like guy in a
Speaker 1: petting a white cat in like an evil layer.
Speaker 2: Well, I know marketing and pr because if we went
Speaker 2: down to the cold hard facts, we would be scared
Speaker 2: of those people more often, you know, it's like the
Speaker 2: their pr of being in control.
Speaker 3: Of everything, but like that is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like the fear that you know, the
Speaker 2: like the fear and stress of someone snatching your kid
Speaker 2: when it's like no, it's the people that were like trusting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the people that are within the systems, within the places,
Speaker 2: and they're fucking sick. And I'll lead you on to
Speaker 2: the next six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the next.
Speaker 2: So this is a Norwich child sexual abuse ring. It's
Speaker 2: in the UK, it's right around the time of this episode.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's BBC laws or what.
Speaker 2: I probably went through like twenty articles and all of
Speaker 2: them had the same five facts over and over and
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, like the same exact language.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was protected because these are these
Speaker 2: were children with sex gris.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know we've done other cases from there with more details,
Speaker 2: but truly every single article was the same five things.
Speaker 1: Over and over and over again, and they're just like
Speaker 1: not release Maybe the police are just not releasing things, yea, yeah.
Speaker 3: But that's what I mean. Yeah. So, but the BBC, of.
Speaker 2: Course, seemingly respectable people living ordinary lives let me look
Speaker 2: at them. But yeah, so we have. But that's like
Speaker 2: the core. We have to stop being surprised when it's
Speaker 2: regular people because it's always regular people, Like I don't
Speaker 2: know when, but it was, yes, yes, yeah, being surprised
Speaker 2: so annoying.
Speaker 3: Oh but.
Speaker 2: Also with the regular thing I wrote, I wrote breaking Bad,
Speaker 2: like it's Gus he's working at the chicken shop. Just
Speaker 2: seems like so much work to have the cover and
Speaker 2: this other full time criminal enterprise, Like these are clearly workaholics.
Speaker 2: But like I can't imagine like being a fake manager
Speaker 2: of a chicken restaurant and then doing a whole drug enterprise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: How Gus Fring enjoys his money because he doesn't have, right,
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't have like a bit. He can't have
Speaker 1: any of these big things like like at least with
Speaker 1: at least with Walter, you knew he was leaving that
Speaker 1: money to his wife and kids when he died of cancer.
Speaker 1: That was originally the conceit of the show. What's Gus doing.
Speaker 3: Is he's in it for the love of the game.
Speaker 1: I think he likes the power and the fucking running shit, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was also excellent at running a chicken franchise.
Speaker 3: How you do one thing is how you do everything. God,
Speaker 3: now I want chicken.
Speaker 2: So Actually, the chicken shop that I lived near, they
Speaker 2: gave me a magnet last week. And the girl that
Speaker 2: works their designs, she's always there. I hope it's a
Speaker 2: normal situation. I'm always like, girl, you gotta take a
Speaker 2: day off.
Speaker 3: She goes, I can't.
Speaker 2: She's her all day, all day in it. But she
Speaker 2: designed all these magnets since she gave me one, So
Speaker 2: I'm happy. It says Crispy on it. Ooh, with New
Speaker 2: York iconography and a chicken I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't know why did I bring in breaking bad,
Speaker 2: but I wrote it in the notes. It wasn't even
Speaker 2: like off the top of my head, like that's just
Speaker 2: what I thought about. But anyways, this this pedal ring
Speaker 2: was operating for ten years. This is what I'm calling
Speaker 2: I'm start I'm just gonna start calling.
Speaker 1: More people petos, yeah, pedophiles.
Speaker 2: Every time now online people are like, well, it's because
Speaker 2: I'm fighting online.
Speaker 3: It's humiliating.
Speaker 2: But people are like the like anyone that's talking about
Speaker 2: They basically say oh, thirteen year olds can't consent to sex,
Speaker 2: but they can, but they can change their gender. That's
Speaker 2: like what they would like to do. Like, that's what
Speaker 2: I don't know, So I just keep writing, Okay, pedophile, Okay, pal,
Speaker 2: that's just like, yeah, I'm gonna bring that more into
Speaker 2: any comment you make. I'm gonna be like, Okay, it
Speaker 2: seems like you're a pedophile. Gross, okay, pedo, We don't.
Speaker 2: We don't accuse people enough. We don't accuse people. We
Speaker 2: need to start throwing pedophile around loose, Yes, yeah, loose.
Speaker 2: See who gets nervous, See who gets defensive? This is
Speaker 2: your subway take. We need to start throwing pedophile around more.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree. Someone was saying that you could
Speaker 2: tell he hates doing it now there's like a suffering
Speaker 2: behind the eyes.
Speaker 3: But I'm just like, I really Chris.
Speaker 1: Fleming's whole bit about it. It's so funny. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: I love Chris Fleming. He's so cool.
Speaker 3: He really knew how to work that stage, that carnivor
Speaker 3: yeah stage.
Speaker 1: He looks like a seventies rock star or something when
Speaker 1: he's on.
Speaker 2: There's really funny. I'm relate, I'm late to the Chris
Speaker 2: Fleming game. Unfortunately I'm pretty late to him, but thrilled
Speaker 2: that he entered my life.
Speaker 1: He and I did stand up and clown together, the
Speaker 1: one where you can't talk, and one of the clowns,
Speaker 1: Natalie Palomides, is a clown king. I would say, makes
Speaker 1: fun of you. He roasts all of you. He told
Speaker 1: me I had Hillary Clinton energy for the whole audience.
Speaker 3: Did they laugh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. He was like saying, I'm more
Speaker 1: successful than Jared and stuff. It was like, really, because
Speaker 1: we were on it together, it was really funny.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know that one. Wait, but why am I? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I watch all the subway takes. It's like an
Speaker 2: enjoyable thing for me. I do all the polls. I
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 3: But I don't see a darkness in his eyes of
Speaker 3: sad because to me, I'm like, you have like a
Speaker 3: whull fit, like make your money. I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is a great gig. Do you see sadness? And
Speaker 2: the eyes let us know how many sadness. I don't
Speaker 2: see any sadness because you're wearing those glasses. I don't
Speaker 2: see anything.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it's wearing Yeah, it's wearing the glasses
Speaker 1: to hide the.
Speaker 3: But it's better than it's better than another job. That's
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you're sad doing subway takes, you're out
Speaker 2: of your mind.
Speaker 7: Come on.
Speaker 2: But anyways, I'd love to be on it pedal start
Speaker 2: calling people with pedophiles. The other react, We're gonna catch
Speaker 2: kill it. We're gonna catch them, We're gonna catch them
Speaker 2: all pokemon vibe. Okay, So the names are Marie Black,
Speaker 2: Michael Rogers, Jason Adams, and they were the leaders, but
Speaker 2: most of the press just kept being like, Mary Black,
Speaker 2: she's a woman, she's evil. Can you believe it's a woman,
Speaker 2: human trafficker, it's a woman. It's an evil woman. Can
Speaker 2: you believe a woman did it? So most of the
Speaker 2: presses about her, and she was a decade plus younger
Speaker 2: than them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, look at how Galaine is the only one
Speaker 1: serving time for these crimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the other one was murdered. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that happens with like all the cops too,
Speaker 2: Like all the cops that shoot in us and people.
Speaker 2: The people that get convicted are women. Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: should be everyone should be. They should all yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be equally we should be equally shocked that
Speaker 1: anybody did this kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Whatever, So it's all about her.
Speaker 2: But then in court the defense was like, no, she's
Speaker 2: a poor woman, she's a victim, but she was at
Speaker 2: the center of it.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: But also the best part of her defense, they said
Speaker 2: she was too dumbed to have been able to set
Speaker 2: this up. Was the defense. They go, this, this dumb bitch.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a two dumb defense. But they
Speaker 2: were like, there's no way she came up with this scheme.
Speaker 2: But so the children, like I said, all age under thirteen,
Speaker 2: two boys and three girls, So they were subjects of
Speaker 2: this abuse for ten years. So kind of reminds me
Speaker 2: of the Rosanna Arquette episode where it's like the family
Speaker 2: of children just being taken around and abused. It wasn't,
Speaker 2: but I guess they these kids grew up together to
Speaker 2: Teddy and the girl. So yeah, but it was the
Speaker 2: same two boys, three girls. They were raped passed around.
Speaker 2: One of the children said he was in the ring
Speaker 2: since he was two years old.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Detective Chief Inspector Peter Hornby said it was the most
Speaker 2: harrowing case he has ever dealt with in twenty three
Speaker 2: years of policing.
Speaker 3: That's to the BBC.
Speaker 2: And then the judge Nicholas Coleman had the same thoughts
Speaker 2: to the Guardian. He wrote, this case is the most harrowing.
Speaker 2: It has been my misfortune to try.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, they forced the children to perform sex
Speaker 2: X on each other and then adults like it was
Speaker 2: these parties, so adults would come and play card games
Speaker 2: and that would decide which person would abuse which child,
Speaker 2: and the abuse happened in front of adults other children.
Speaker 3: They would use children's.
Speaker 2: Toys so like Barbie dolls. That kept being said over
Speaker 2: and over, and they would transport them to parties to
Speaker 2: be abused. And then the allegations were reported to the
Speaker 2: cops in twenty ten, but in twenty twelve they finally
Speaker 2: got more evidence. So two more years of abuse these
Speaker 2: children had to like endure. So yeah, so then they
Speaker 2: finally had sufficient evidence to make initial arrests in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: But how were they not able to remove the children
Speaker 3: from the Where were they?
Speaker 2: I don't know, It's what I mean, like there was
Speaker 2: truly like this. It was every article was the same
Speaker 2: stuff like this is like that. The only thing I
Speaker 2: didn't write is like after they were convicted, she she
Speaker 2: went like they stitched us up, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't care about what you have to say, honestly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so arrest in twenty thirteen convictions. In July
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Adam was guilty on thirty One of the
Speaker 2: men was guilty on thirteen counts and he was forty
Speaker 2: four years of age, and then Rogers was fourteen counts.
Speaker 2: He was forty six years of age, and both those
Speaker 2: men got twenty four year sentences.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: Black the woman, she got twenty three counts because that's
Speaker 2: what the judge everyone kept saying, like you're not a victim.
Speaker 2: You're truly at the center of all of it, like
Speaker 2: even when other people aren't, you are, like you're always there.
Speaker 2: So she got twenty three counts, jailed for life. And yeah,
Speaker 2: the judge said she was the constant factor in the crimes.
Speaker 2: And she was thirty four years of age when this happened,
Speaker 2: so she started like molesting these children at twenty four.
Speaker 1: I just don't really get why though they aren't all
Speaker 1: just getting life, Like I don't think these men are
Speaker 1: going to be better people when they get out in
Speaker 1: twenty four years.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: But you know we've done cases from there like they'll
Speaker 2: they'll but here too, they'll like let people out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: The other six people on trial were cleared, so there
Speaker 2: were other people. They were cleared on all charges, and
Speaker 2: then one of the other people was cleared on most
Speaker 2: charges but found guilty on one and the jury deliberated
Speaker 2: for nineteen hours. And yeah, for such a like it
Speaker 2: seems devastating. A huge case, very little details found, and
Speaker 2: I hope it's just to protect the privacy of the victims. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and maybe if someone has more information, let me let
Speaker 2: me know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oof, All right, well we know that this was a
Speaker 6: bummer of a crime, but we've got a great interview
Speaker 6: for you, so don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Our guest today, Wow, what a get.
Speaker 1: I mean, an iconic actor who you may know best
Speaker 1: as Brooke Davis on One Tree Hill or from the
Speaker 1: canon classic John Tucker Muss Die the Anti Men Cannon
Speaker 1: classic John Tucker Muss Die. She's currently a lead on
Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy, but you know her best as Detective Aaron
Speaker 1: Lindsay from Chicago p D and this crossover episode of SVU,
Speaker 1: Please enjoy our conversation with the amazing Sophia Bush.
Speaker 2: I actually saw you on the streets two weeks ago
Speaker 2: outside of Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 3: Not to be a creep, but wait.
Speaker 7: Like in the middle of the day on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, you.
Speaker 7: Wan don't know why I know this because I've been
Speaker 7: around the corner at iHeart recording and I had a
Speaker 7: few hours to kill before seeing a friend's play, and
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm just gonna play like restaurant Roulette
Speaker 7: and pick a place on the map that's close to
Speaker 7: here and go kill some time and like answer emails
Speaker 7: while I have a late lunch and walking by Carnegie Hall,
Speaker 7: I saw Alex Edelman's poster and I was like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, I have to send this to him and
Speaker 7: tell him I'm walking by his face. And then I
Speaker 7: looked up and it wasn't you. It was like like
Speaker 7: a teenager who was like and I was like, hey,
Speaker 7: I was having my own fangirl moment. It was like
Speaker 7: so deeply awkward, and I was like, I do know him,
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: No, I was like I was wondering Alex or Chris Fleming.
Speaker 2: I feel like both their because I did investigate after
Speaker 2: I saw you take the freight.
Speaker 3: So the teen where did the team know you from?
Speaker 2: Is it usually One Tree Hills?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean I think probably, but it's like there's a
Speaker 7: whole One Tree Hill faction. There's a whole like Dick
Speaker 7: Wolf World faction. Yeah, and then there's a whole.
Speaker 3: There's been a.
Speaker 7: Big resurgence, resurgence of John Tucker Must Die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on streaming. I watched it this week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm like, well, we love that.
Speaker 2: Well, I've watched it a lot, but it was fun
Speaker 2: to rewatch. Was that fun to do?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? We had the best time.
Speaker 7: Brittany and I were together like a month ago when
Speaker 7: I was in LA and we had like a whole
Speaker 7: weekend of work events together and we were just like
Speaker 7: can you believe, like we were babies.
Speaker 3: And it's so fun that people.
Speaker 7: Still love it because we really loved making it.
Speaker 1: Brittany's another SVU. I know, got a big app the Earlies.
Speaker 2: You know, what was your Dick Wolf Universe relationship before
Speaker 2: you started on PDS?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so strong?
Speaker 7: You know, like any woman who was in high school
Speaker 7: in the nineties or in college in the early odds,
Speaker 7: Like I was a deep SVU die.
Speaker 3: Hard Yeah, and it was always like it was such
Speaker 3: a cool experience.
Speaker 7: Knowing that it was a show I loved and really
Speaker 7: just thinking the world of Marishka and then getting to
Speaker 7: go work on it not only for an episode, but
Speaker 7: to overlap for so many seasons and do so many crossovers.
Speaker 7: Like working with her and going to do the SVU
Speaker 7: crossovers was my favorite part of being in that whole
Speaker 7: gigantic universal.
Speaker 3: Oh cool as best.
Speaker 7: The way the way there set runs, and just the
Speaker 7: level of it's so interesting because you walk on a
Speaker 7: set like that and they've obviously been at it for
Speaker 7: so long and it is the It's very similar to
Speaker 7: working on grays.
Speaker 3: It is the top tier of.
Speaker 7: Gorgeous professionalism, efficiency, incredible dedication to the work after so
Speaker 7: many years. When you think like somebody here is going
Speaker 7: to be kind of jaded or ungrateful, nobody is. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and they're so frickin good at what they do that
Speaker 7: the amount of fun they have while doing it, like
Speaker 7: I've actually never been on a funnier set, And it's
Speaker 7: crazy to think that because the subject matter is so serious.
Speaker 7: It's also like probably how everyone deals with not being
Speaker 7: completely traumatized when they go home at the end of
Speaker 7: the day with those storylines. But it's like it's actually
Speaker 7: the most joyful and most professional place.
Speaker 3: They've just nailed it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and on like a superficial level, I would say
Speaker 2: your hair really matched Marishkas, like you guys went hair
Speaker 2: for hair and amazing hair in those episodes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you. Pretty huge tho.
Speaker 2: That's pretty huge, And I feel like you had the
Speaker 2: Marishka hair journey where you kind of had a different
Speaker 2: look every season.
Speaker 3: Bob oh totally. Well.
Speaker 7: I mean some of that is just like like when
Speaker 7: I did the Bob and I got in trouble you did, yeah,
Speaker 7: kind of Nobody really likes when you cut your hair
Speaker 7: on TV. But also like the amount of heat and
Speaker 7: then being out in the freezing weather in Chicago, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's hard on your body. Nobody thinks about what it
Speaker 7: does to the women's hair, and like my hair would
Speaker 7: literally get heat damage and then it would freeze. So truly,
Speaker 7: like when I tell you my hair was just breaking
Speaker 7: off in chunks, like I hadn't even consider that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I had to cut like a jaw length bob just
Speaker 7: to start over. There was a point where they tried
Speaker 7: to wig me and then that wasn't working. I mean
Speaker 7: it was the hair. I was like, total, it's a
Speaker 7: wreck in that in that way, but I also wound
Speaker 7: up changing my hair color on the show. This is
Speaker 7: like some of our lore I will never forget. We
Speaker 7: got there and Marina, my dear, my darling.
Speaker 3: Oh we just had her on a few Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Okay, So you know Marina plays Burgess and she's just
Speaker 7: the greatest. And the weekend after we started filming PD
Speaker 7: was her wedding and I walked you know, you're when
Speaker 7: you're doing your prep week, you're like in and out
Speaker 7: of training together. You're running around sometimes everyone's together doing
Speaker 7: table reads, and then everyone splits off and goes and
Speaker 7: meets with different departments. And I walked in for my
Speaker 7: my sit down with hair and makeup, and she was
Speaker 7: in the makeup trailer and they were pulling a blonde
Speaker 7: wig on her head. And I looked in the mirror
Speaker 7: and I could see her trying not to sob and
Speaker 7: I was like, what's going on? And they were like, well,
Speaker 7: you know, the two girls on the show. I mean, granted,
Speaker 7: you won't work together a ton because she was a
Speaker 7: you know, in the beginning of Beat Cop and I
Speaker 7: was a detective. But like, they think you guys look
Speaker 7: too much alike because you're both brunettes. And I was like,
Speaker 7: aren't all the boys on the show up? They're like, yeah,
Speaker 7: the boys have brown hair? Like are they getting tips?
Speaker 7: What's going on? And you know, we giggle obviously, but
Speaker 7: this is just the way TV is. You've heard the
Speaker 7: hair stories from one trail, I'm sure, and I was like,
Speaker 7: but we don't. And they were like, yeah, but we're going.
Speaker 3: To change her hair color.
Speaker 7: And I was like, but she's getting married on Friday,
Speaker 7: Like no, And I was like, why don't you guys
Speaker 7: just start to take me blonde? So we started lightening
Speaker 7: my hair.
Speaker 3: I noticed the highlights. I did notice.
Speaker 7: Wow, if you notice, like there's highlights in my hair
Speaker 7: in the first episode, and then it gets lighter and
Speaker 7: lighter because they wanted the girls to have different hair color.
Speaker 7: And I was like, you cannot make this woman dye
Speaker 7: her hair blonde four days, five days before her wedding.
Speaker 3: You just can't do that. Wow.
Speaker 1: It's just like no offense to like any of your
Speaker 1: co stars on these shows. But like the men all
Speaker 1: look a lot alike each other, Like they all not
Speaker 1: even just hair. It's like the haircut, the chisel jaw,
Speaker 1: like the where they're like they all look the same.
Speaker 1: And then it's like two women, they're like, why don't
Speaker 1: we just shave one bald? I cannot tell these two
Speaker 1: women apart, Like it makes no Well that would be me.
Speaker 7: I have like a terrible dent in the back of
Speaker 7: my head. So Natalie Portman has it perfectly shaped head.
Speaker 7: She can do the head shaved. Yeah, as we know
Speaker 7: from Viva Vendada. But if we had to do that,
Speaker 7: I think methinks it would not be me.
Speaker 1: But like just the way that the men can just
Speaker 1: all have the same face and they have to differentiate
Speaker 1: the woman is like so crazy.
Speaker 7: Well you know though that that comes from like some
Speaker 7: random network, right, like and and look at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, I think, especially when you work with
Speaker 7: great teams, it's like there's a reason Dick Wolf is
Speaker 7: one of the most prolific producers in television history. He
Speaker 7: knows exactly what's worth his focus. You know, he's a
Speaker 7: tremendous creative producer ally like he's a really good egg,
Speaker 7: and I think he's also smart enough to be like, okay,
Speaker 7: executive number four, Like you want to you want to
Speaker 7: earn your salary by sending in a note you want
Speaker 7: to change the hair color?
Speaker 3: Like whatever. Exactly, it's not really worth the fight.
Speaker 7: But could you imagine having like gorgeous, auburny brunette hair
Speaker 7: and then four days before your wedding being told like
Speaker 7: they're going to.
Speaker 1: Tear such a man or some friend for being like,
Speaker 1: I'll take the blonde for me.
Speaker 7: I volunteers tribute. I did Volunteers Tribute. But also it's
Speaker 7: not like, oh gee, how hard they had to change
Speaker 7: my hair color?
Speaker 1: I know, but you put your hair through a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know, yeah, coloring.
Speaker 7: Granted later it was falling out because it was bleached
Speaker 7: and then heated and then frozen, and then I just
Speaker 7: cut it all off and started over.
Speaker 1: Is the show like is Chicago as outside as like
Speaker 1: SVU and Law.
Speaker 2: And Orders are It's been awesome. What's great about all
Speaker 2: of your Chase seams? So I grew up in the
Speaker 2: suburbs and I lived in the in Chicago, and oh
Speaker 2: I love that you guys get to be an alley's
Speaker 2: and in between buildings and apartments because in New York
Speaker 2: there are no alleys, like there are no there's no
Speaker 2: streets that even there's no little sidewalks in between the apartments.
Speaker 2: Everything is touching, and so I like all the alley
Speaker 2: that's like.
Speaker 7: I mean the technical side when you think about long
Speaker 7: shots step the field. Also, the feeling of fear created
Speaker 7: by not knowing what's around a corner is really I
Speaker 7: think it's why the city of Chicago in a way
Speaker 7: is a character in the universe of those shows, because
Speaker 7: it has such an incredible look and esthetic and vibe
Speaker 7: like it's a very cool place. Less cool when it's
Speaker 7: like thirty below and you're working outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're on like our twelve. But you figure
Speaker 3: it out because s TOVU is like rain or shine.
Speaker 2: No matter what they shoot, is that the Chicago pd
Speaker 2: vibe like you're in the side.
Speaker 7: That's how TV is, Like we used to have to
Speaker 7: shoot the the episodes of you know, totally different Universe,
Speaker 7: for example, but the episodes of One Tree Hill that
Speaker 7: would air for spring break, you know, that had to
Speaker 7: actually happen when schools in the us were on spring break.
Speaker 3: We'd have to shoot in February, so it.
Speaker 7: Would be like thirty five degrees and they'd be like, okay, kids,
Speaker 7: getting your bikinis and your board shorts and get in
Speaker 7: the ocean.
Speaker 3: And we were all like, okay.
Speaker 2: Wait, what hair drama on one tree hell? Because I'm
Speaker 2: actually not Yeah, I'd like to oh my god.
Speaker 7: We have so much hair lower e'pisode. Sorry to anyone
Speaker 7: who's listening to this who.
Speaker 3: Knows they're gonna lie.
Speaker 7: I wanted new information. Yeah, it was crazy. Nobody every
Speaker 7: girl had to have different hair color. We were never
Speaker 7: allowed to put our hair up, including doing sports like
Speaker 7: at cheer practice. We weren't allowed to wear ponytails. I
Speaker 7: got told off in the most insane, like expletive laced
Speaker 7: tirade by my boss, who was old enough to be
Speaker 7: my dad when I came back for season three and
Speaker 7: I had bangs that were growing out from a movie
Speaker 7: I'd done. And by the way, my bangs were so cute,
Speaker 7: really unmanageable because I have a terrible calic and it
Speaker 7: turns out like not great to cut bangs when you
Speaker 7: have a you know, a Kelly Slater sized wave on
Speaker 7: the front of your head, in your hairline. But it
Speaker 7: was so dramatic, and eventually I think we all just
Speaker 7: hit a point with our hairdressers where we were like,
Speaker 7: you're stupid. We're not going to listen to you anymore
Speaker 7: to our boss, and we did it and we just
Speaker 7: started doing stuff. But it was like there was a
Speaker 7: literal rule. And it came if you recall from you know,
Speaker 7: the sort of iconic coming of age shows that were
Speaker 7: right ahead of us, it came from Felicity.
Speaker 3: When Carrie Russell on Felicity haircut inside it. That's it.
Speaker 7: It coincided with a ratings drop and everyone blamed the
Speaker 7: hair and then women on those shows were not allowed
Speaker 7: to change their hair for like a decade plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my gosh, did you like your time in Chicago
Speaker 2: outside the weather stuff?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, listen, look the the weather's crazy and
Speaker 7: it's also like not that hard. For some reason, there
Speaker 7: was a moment where it got like made into some
Speaker 7: deal where it was like, or is everyone okay? You
Speaker 7: know it's crazy and it's like sad when half your
Speaker 7: crew gets pneumonia and stuff, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's like you said, the show must go on shining,
Speaker 7: Like we would shoot hurricane episodes of One Tree Hill,
Speaker 7: and we would always do those in the winter as well,
Speaker 7: so I don't know, we're used to it.
Speaker 3: In a way.
Speaker 7: I really loved getting to learn from our writers. I
Speaker 7: really loved getting to learn from Dick Wolf, and I
Speaker 7: really loved getting to be around the SVU world. You know,
Speaker 7: everything has built I think, out of that legacy, and
Speaker 7: there are just things they do so well there. It's
Speaker 7: it's pretty incredible to get to see inside of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I will never forget one episode we
Speaker 3: were doing. We're rehearsing.
Speaker 7: We're all standing around with our sides, figuring out how
Speaker 7: we're going to block the scene, and I like, look
Speaker 7: up and Kelly Giddish has had this great idea and
Speaker 7: Iced teas agreeing, and and Marishka's got a thought about
Speaker 7: the next page. And I'm just like watching them and
Speaker 7: I was like, what the fuck is my life? Like
Speaker 7: I've watched you guys on TV for so long, and
Speaker 7: I know I'm also on TV. But it's like a
Speaker 7: crazy experience when you've I'm wearing.
Speaker 3: My icedy sweatshirt.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's a crazy and then you're you're in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah cool.
Speaker 7: How did you guys get so obsessed? Like, obviously this
Speaker 7: podcast is huge. Obviously everyone in the world loves SVU.
Speaker 7: How did you come to do this.
Speaker 2: So we But I mean I just always watched it,
Speaker 2: Like you said, I don't even remember because Kara watched
Speaker 2: it week by week, new episode, new episode as like
Speaker 2: growing up.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: But I was just watching chunks USA Network USA Now
Speaker 1: We're marathons, you know, were really and it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like just the only show where I could
Speaker 1: just watch episodes over and over again, and it always
Speaker 1: felt kind of like still fun to watch. Like I
Speaker 1: don't really I don't really repeat movies I've seen, I
Speaker 1: mean some, but like you know, I'm not like a
Speaker 1: real repeat or I don't reread books I've read.
Speaker 3: But SVU, for some reason, it's like so rewatchable. I
Speaker 3: know it really is, right.
Speaker 7: I have this visceral sense memory and I know that
Speaker 7: it was season two of One Tree Hill because I
Speaker 7: had moved and it's like right when I was in
Speaker 7: my new place and it must have been a Sunday,
Speaker 7: and I just remember I can see myself walking around
Speaker 7: my bedroom and then out and then back in doing
Speaker 7: loads of laundry and folding laundry and like all my sort.
Speaker 3: Of Sunday chores.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there was an SVU marathon on all day
Speaker 7: on the TV in my bedroom and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it just becomes part of your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I learned a lot and I care about
Speaker 2: the subject matter. I think we both do. And then
Speaker 2: when we first met over a decade ago, we bonded
Speaker 2: and I told her about a Twitter account that would
Speaker 2: tweet anytime a Law and Order was on any channel
Speaker 2: in what episode, and like how to find it? And
Speaker 2: then yeah, it was called Donk Doink. And then years
Speaker 2: later Kara was like, I have an idea. Would you
Speaker 2: want to do this?
Speaker 3: And I went yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And what's cool is we deep dive on the crime
Speaker 2: and then recap, but then getting to talk to actors
Speaker 2: and people from the show. It's just really inspiring and
Speaker 2: cool and we learned. It's I'm glad she came up
Speaker 2: with the format because it could have just been a
Speaker 2: recap podcast, which and now we just get to learn
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: We've learned a lot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think look, I mean recap podcasts are great.
Speaker 3: Oh, we love it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes when I'm like doing research at four am
Speaker 2: on a Monday.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, this nightmare. But why didn't
Speaker 3: we just rewatch it? No?
Speaker 7: But I think to your point, because of what the
Speaker 7: subject is, you have the opportunity to not only really
Speaker 7: enjoy looking back at something, but you have the opportunity
Speaker 7: to learn and to teach, and to create space for
Speaker 7: conversation that is not necessarily typical but very necessary. And
Speaker 7: I think about it, especially when when you consider the
Speaker 7: historical arc of a show like this. These were not
Speaker 7: conversations anyone was willing to have. No one was talking
Speaker 7: about sexual violence, no one was talking about exploitation, no
Speaker 7: one was talking about human trafficking, like and this exists
Speaker 7: in the world around us all the time, everywhere, in
Speaker 7: any place, and it's so unbelievable when you think about
Speaker 7: what the show has done for our cultural understanding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we say they were ahead of their time, But
Speaker 2: then what's also sad is how relevant some of the
Speaker 2: old episodes still are.
Speaker 1: And that's what we'll do, Like a season one episode like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is still a pretty bad issue and it's been
Speaker 1: twenty five years or whatever.
Speaker 7: So I mean, I think about a crossover episode that
Speaker 7: we did, and it was in season two of PD,
Speaker 7: and it was a really hard crossover to shoot. But
Speaker 7: the whole thing moved around the exploitation of children and
Speaker 7: the trafficking of children and what happens when those children
Speaker 7: age out. And one of the children who aged out
Speaker 7: was my character's half brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an episode that we're attaching this interview too
Speaker 1: A great yeah, like so, and it's like, well.
Speaker 2: Teddy the guy who played Teddy, I mean that was
Speaker 2: a real perform I was going to say, I didn't
Speaker 2: feel to be in the room with.
Speaker 3: Who is that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And we'd known each other for so long. Wow,
Speaker 7: Like back in my early twenties, like I had the
Speaker 7: sweetest boyfriend at the time, who, like him and his
Speaker 7: wife are still homies.
Speaker 3: They lived like.
Speaker 7: Two doors down from my best friend, and we all
Speaker 7: used to like run around la at twenty four together.
Speaker 7: And then you know, cut to almost ten years later,
Speaker 7: we're working together on a show and we were like
Speaker 7: what the hell, Like this is the best and also,
Speaker 7: oh my god, this is so sad and awful.
Speaker 3: It's such a tough episode.
Speaker 1: I feel like, also though your character was really good
Speaker 1: at like coming in and giving us like because we've
Speaker 1: seen other child trafficking ring episodes. It's always awful, but
Speaker 1: it was like your character like kind of giving us
Speaker 1: this way in of like this can kind of happen
Speaker 1: to a lot of people who just sort of keep
Speaker 1: take their eye off of somebody for a little while,
Speaker 1: or lose touch with a family member, and like, look
Speaker 1: how far they can like sync into these you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not trying to say subculture, but they
Speaker 1: could sink into this like life of crime and like tralla, these.
Speaker 7: Kind of underground syndicates, if you will. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 7: it's fair. It's got a centrifical force, right, somebody gets
Speaker 7: and it's incredibly hard to get out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's what we're.
Speaker 7: Seeing as the plethora of Epstein documents is gone through
Speaker 7: and made public. You know, you see these things and
Speaker 7: you see the way power structures deny the realities that
Speaker 7: they know of and are participating in. And it's really
Speaker 7: it's kind of soul crushing to me that something we
Speaker 7: did so long ago is playing out on the world
Speaker 7: stage right now. And it's soul crushing to know how
Speaker 7: long it's played out on the world stage, whether it's
Speaker 7: had a spotlight or not.
Speaker 1: I was wondering you had, like such a sweet little
Speaker 1: relationship with that girl your character did with the girl
Speaker 1: in that episode who they find earlier, and it's like
Speaker 1: what we've seen Olivia Benson do many times obviously before,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how often did your character on
Speaker 1: Chicago ped ever get to like sort of connect with
Speaker 1: like young victims like that. It felt like it was
Speaker 1: like your little Olivia Benson moment in that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a special thing to get to do.
Speaker 7: You know, I think not as often for Aaron because
Speaker 7: we were just like straight intelligence, you know, we weren't
Speaker 7: a sex crimes unit, we were not as view. But
Speaker 7: those overlaps I think felt particularly personal for me. You know,
Speaker 7: I love being around kids in general, and especially making
Speaker 7: sure they feel safe on set, and that probably goes
Speaker 7: back to like growing up at summer camp and being
Speaker 7: a camp counselor and you know, doing all of those
Speaker 7: things that were really important to my own development and
Speaker 7: like my childhood. But for me, those episodes really always
Speaker 7: felt the most powerful special as an advocate, as someone
Speaker 7: who's shown up to try to in whatever way each
Speaker 7: individual person can in their life make certain circumstances better
Speaker 7: for other people, you know, offer voice, offer platform. Those
Speaker 7: those opportunities on screen were always the extra special ones
Speaker 7: for me because they they connected things that I care
Speaker 7: about so much as an individual that I get to
Speaker 7: bring that to a character and I get to kind
Speaker 7: of marry all of that emotion on screen, and it
Speaker 7: it's like a It's one of those things where it
Speaker 7: doesn't just feel like one plus one, you know, equals
Speaker 7: to It's like a one plus one is three all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, it's like a it's like a multiplier
Speaker 7: instead of just an just an additive part of the journey.
Speaker 7: And I still don't take any of that lately.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you've been a doctor and a defective.
Speaker 2: I have what.
Speaker 3: Do you prefer one?
Speaker 7: It's really interesting. I love both. I will say hospital
Speaker 7: shows are gorge because you get to be inside a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like about our case, Oh you're like ooh a
Speaker 1: nice warm hospital ward.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, there's nothing like you know, getting injured
Speaker 7: doing stunts on the ice and having to go to
Speaker 7: the hospital to get a cat scan and you're just
Speaker 7: like what is being like, Wow, the er is so
Speaker 7: warm and everyone is happy.
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the training that you it was it
Speaker 2: consist So you guys were consistently training probably, or did
Speaker 2: you learn a lot and then start out did that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I had.
Speaker 7: I had done you know, some stunt training and things
Speaker 7: for movies and things before. And you know, my dad
Speaker 7: grew up in Canada. Like I got my first gun
Speaker 7: for my twelfth birthday. So it's also really funny that
Speaker 7: people are like, oh, these liberals are trying to take
Speaker 7: our guns away. I'm like, no, I'm very pro gun control. Yeah,
Speaker 7: because I'm an expert gun owner. Are y'all good? So cool?
Speaker 3: I really want to learn how to shoot a gun?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? Oh my god.
Speaker 7: When when Stephen COLLETTI came to work on One Tree Hill,
Speaker 7: he was like so nervous and scared and like I
Speaker 7: was going to be the first actor he had, you know,
Speaker 7: had a relationship with on screen. And I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm going to take you out to do like the
Speaker 7: browiest thing ever. And I took him to the shooting
Speaker 7: range to teach him how to shoot a gun, and
Speaker 7: he was just like, what is happening here? I was like,
Speaker 7: We're good, and you know I can make out on TV? Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean and that's like one of the things we
Speaker 7: laugh about, like, you know, now he's hung out with
Speaker 7: my partner and he's like, yeah, in hindsight, that was
Speaker 7: so gay, and I'm just like, oh my god, I
Speaker 7: die for us and our wacky like you know, twenty
Speaker 7: years of being friends. But it's like, luckily I had
Speaker 7: enough proficiency in that space that I felt really comfortable
Speaker 7: that instead of feeling like I had a lot to
Speaker 7: learn in terms of the basics, it was like, oh,
Speaker 7: I know all the basics, like I know how to work, I.
Speaker 3: Know how to use all these weapons.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the specific training, Like what does it mean
Speaker 7: to bound through buildings and teams?
Speaker 3: What are what are the.
Speaker 7: You know, signals that you use? And how do you
Speaker 7: move silently when you can't necessarily see everyone?
Speaker 3: And like what you know?
Speaker 7: It just was so technical to train with SWAT and
Speaker 7: so fun. And it's like that's the thing, Like somebody recently,
Speaker 7: you know, brought me something that was in that world again,
Speaker 7: and I was like, ooh, it's definitely like it's not
Speaker 7: a no for me. If it's the right project, It's
Speaker 7: it's always going to be one of the things I
Speaker 7: love the most, just because I like the technicality and
Speaker 7: the physicality of it. And then my nerdy brain that
Speaker 7: is obsessed with science is like, you mean, my job
Speaker 7: could be to learn everything about a medical specialty that
Speaker 7: I possibly can, Like, okay, I love all of it.
Speaker 3: What was your doctor's specialty?
Speaker 7: Cardiothoracic surgery, which is crazy because I wanted to be
Speaker 7: a heart surgeon when I was a kid, and so
Speaker 7: it was this very full circle journey. And on Good Sam,
Speaker 7: I was a cardiothoracic surgeon, and on Grey's Anatomy, I
Speaker 7: play a trauma surgeon, so I get to do a
Speaker 7: little bit of everything and it's really really fun. And
Speaker 7: the first surgery that I did on Grays, I walked
Speaker 7: in and the medical tech was like, okay, here's how
Speaker 7: and like you know, I pick up the tools and
Speaker 7: we start doing stuff and he was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: I forgot You've already done this the best day for me,
Speaker 7: like you know this stuff already and we were just
Speaker 7: cackling and we had so much fun, you know, putting
Speaker 7: together one of those iconic all the surgeons around the table,
Speaker 7: like my character Cass Beckman is standing looking at Richard
Speaker 7: Webber and again very much like playing Aaron Lindsay. Looking
Speaker 7: at Olivia Benson, I was like, what is my life? Like,
Speaker 7: I've watched you forever.
Speaker 3: It's so fun. Did you you wanted to do this
Speaker 3: since you were a kid. Yeah? No, no, okay.
Speaker 7: No, I wanted to be a doctor. I I had
Speaker 7: no sights on this. And then I had an arts
Speaker 7: requirement in school and I had to do a play
Speaker 7: and I thought I was really smart and figured out
Speaker 7: how to get out of it, and I left. There
Speaker 7: were four semesters of arts requirements for me at my
Speaker 7: middle in high school, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 7: I've nailed it because I'm just going to leave the
Speaker 7: play to the same semester that I'm on the volleyball team,
Speaker 7: and then obviously I won't be able to do the
Speaker 7: play because I'll be playing volleyball. And I remember the
Speaker 7: headmistress of my school being like, that's a you problem.
Speaker 7: You didn't plan your time well. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: what is this version of accountability? I was on the
Speaker 7: like I really thought I had cracked the code, and
Speaker 7: I did a play and then had I mean, God,
Speaker 7: this is so embarrassing you guys, Like people assume that
Speaker 7: if you do what I do for a living. You're
Speaker 7: like cool, and I'm just the I am like such
Speaker 7: a nerd, and I know people say that, but like,
Speaker 7: clearly you're learning that I mean it. I did my
Speaker 7: first play and had this out of body aha moment
Speaker 7: where I was like, wait, plays or books come to life.
Speaker 7: And then I started doing research on what, well, like,
Speaker 7: where does theater come from? Why were the Greeks so
Speaker 7: into it? I need to understand why this was so important,
Speaker 7: because I was looking at this as very frivolous, said,
Speaker 7: with all the love she knows the story, she won't
Speaker 7: be offended. My best friend from middle school and high school, Betsy,
Speaker 7: was like classic theater kid, like singing in vibrado in
Speaker 7: the hallways, you know, was a madrigal. Like that's just
Speaker 7: like my bad yeah, and I was like, that's her thing.
Speaker 7: And then I was like, I must understand why this
Speaker 7: feels so important, like in my bones. And then I
Speaker 7: started nerding out on the fact that even before there
Speaker 7: was written language, we had that the practice of passing
Speaker 7: down stories and performance, whether it was around a campfire
Speaker 7: or in an amphitheater like theater, led to language being written.
Speaker 7: And then I was like this, This is so profound
Speaker 7: for people, This is so this is important for us,
Speaker 7: and I love this and it's a legacy and it's
Speaker 7: a thing. I get to be like a teeny tiny
Speaker 7: little part of the in the landscape of humanity.
Speaker 3: Like I was in eighth grade, Are we okay? Just so,
Speaker 3: the longest diary entry of all time? Ah? Really?
Speaker 7: Like I think I wrote a whole journal about it.
Speaker 7: It had blue flowers on it, so embarrassing, but I
Speaker 7: just got obsessed. And then I don't think it was
Speaker 7: until probably my senior year in high school that I
Speaker 7: really thought about taking it seriously.
Speaker 3: I was in a play at.
Speaker 7: My school that was, I guess like sort of controversial
Speaker 7: for a high school and it got this little right
Speaker 7: up in the La Times, and a manager came to
Speaker 7: see it and was like, you should be an actor
Speaker 7: and you shouldn't leave California to go to college. I
Speaker 7: want to start sending you out on auditions. And then
Speaker 7: I was like, how do I tell my parents I'm
Speaker 7: going to go to theater school instead of medical school?
Speaker 3: How's this going to go over?
Speaker 7: And I just went for it, and then I wound up.
Speaker 2: Here, Oh, so, how did your parents react?
Speaker 3: I mean they were not thrilled.
Speaker 7: Okay, my dad is an artist. And I found out
Speaker 7: many years later that my mom was like.
Speaker 3: This is your fault.
Speaker 7: You turned your hobby into a career. Now she thinks
Speaker 7: she can do it too. Is this a nightmare? And
Speaker 7: my dad was like Maureen, like she's way too like
Speaker 7: embarrassingly smart.
Speaker 3: She's gonna hate this. I give it a year.
Speaker 7: And the irony is I used a monologue from denial
Speaker 7: to audition for the BFA theater class at USC was
Speaker 7: one of fourteen people who got accepted. And within a
Speaker 7: year I was like, I think there's just I like
Speaker 7: it here, but I need to study also other things.
Speaker 7: I can't do just this in the black box, like
Speaker 7: I want to pull my hair out. And I wound
Speaker 7: up transferring into the journalism school, shifting my BFA into
Speaker 7: a theater minor, and I was studying journalism and political
Speaker 7: science and that trifecta was what just like lit me
Speaker 7: up as a student. And I think it was the
Speaker 7: journalism study that particularly helped me with advocacy and you know,
Speaker 7: work on progressive causes and women's rights and gender issues
Speaker 7: and all the rest of it. And frankly, like really
Speaker 7: set me up to love this world, you know, the
Speaker 7: stories told in the world of an SVU, the stories
Speaker 7: told you know, in the world of a hospital, Like
Speaker 7: I really care about real people's stories.
Speaker 3: And it puts you in a perfect place to be
Speaker 3: a podcaster.
Speaker 1: I feel like as well, that's like a really good
Speaker 1: getting some guests podcast. Yeah, you guys recently had Monica
Speaker 1: Lewinsky exciting.
Speaker 7: Did it's been a big It's been a big year,
Speaker 7: Michelle Obama, Kamala Ownsky vice president, Kamala Harris. Yeah, it's
Speaker 7: like it's been pretty incredib amazing.
Speaker 1: They got to get you back on Would you go
Speaker 1: back on SVU? As like, as like do a little I.
Speaker 3: Got on SVU.
Speaker 1: You can't go back now it's not Aaron Lindsay. I
Speaker 1: think that would be too distracting. No, I wouldn't come
Speaker 1: to did you come back? I could as a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Comes back.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like my my character could go Yeah, it
Speaker 7: would have to be Aaron because she went into the
Speaker 7: FBI or something, right, Yes, that's what I mean. Yes,
Speaker 7: I think certain characters, I'm okay if they come back,
Speaker 7: but you can't come back as like your character was
Speaker 7: just made too much big of an impact to come
Speaker 7: back and be like, Hi, my name is Sarah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: We also wouldn't I wouldn't want to. I loved playing her. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you can have a little revisit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need we need you and Benson act.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Also, Marishka and I just have so much fun together.
Speaker 7: It's like cutie pie.
Speaker 2: No. I wanted to ask about your void character and
Speaker 2: how it's fun to be as incredible. Yeah, how is that?
Speaker 2: And you have like yourself as an action figure.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's the most fun. I have the what are
Speaker 7: they called, the like pop pop them?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, funds. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I'm like no, I'm thinking like my my six year
Speaker 7: old brain was like a poppet and I'm like, no,
Speaker 7: those are so fun. And I have some of the sketches.
Speaker 7: I had the best time doing that. I mean, Pixar
Speaker 7: is it's that for me. It's it's like my happiest
Speaker 7: place on Earth. Don't get me wrong. I love Disneyland,
Speaker 7: but to go in there and be part of these
Speaker 7: incredible stories, I just love it. I love the world
Speaker 7: of animation, I love magic, I love the idea of superheroes.
Speaker 7: And there's also something so cool about getting to play
Speaker 7: a superhero in your pajamas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I didn't.
Speaker 7: I would, by the way, any any time, any day,
Speaker 7: Like pour me into a suit and put me on
Speaker 7: a wire and let me fly around like. I would
Speaker 7: love nothing more but to not have to be like
Speaker 7: molded into spandex to give you like more muscles than
Speaker 7: you have and be, you know, sweating, but also have
Speaker 7: to look gorgeous somehow and act like you're not sweating,
Speaker 7: and act like you can go to the bathroom. Like
Speaker 7: to play the superhero in my pjs was.
Speaker 3: So fun and funny, and.
Speaker 7: It it's like a really amazing return to your inner
Speaker 7: child in some way. It's really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in some huge universes. Yeah, wow, really cool.
Speaker 3: I guess I hadn't thought about it like that. How
Speaker 3: you're crushing it? Well, thanks, Well, what I mean, we've
Speaker 3: had you for so long, But I did.
Speaker 2: I had noticed that you directed some episodes of One
Speaker 2: Tree Hill.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, would you do that again? Was that fast? Absolutely?
Speaker 7: I loved it, and I think it was a really
Speaker 7: cool thing. You know, so many years into working on
Speaker 7: a show, when you get to helmet in that way.
Speaker 7: It magnified my love for this job. My love for
Speaker 7: our set, for my fellow castmates, our crew. Like, it's
Speaker 7: such a cool creative endeavor and it has changed me
Speaker 7: for the better as an actor ever since. You know,
Speaker 7: I meet with my department heads all the time. I'm
Speaker 7: always in the corner with like camera department figuring things out.
Speaker 7: Like I love the technicality of it, and directing really
Speaker 7: gave that to me in the most fun way. It
Speaker 7: was great.
Speaker 3: Do you think maybe they'll let you direct to Grace?
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, there is such a long line to direct
Speaker 7: on Grays. I have to say, like, hats off today, Allen.
Speaker 7: Every time I get to set, there's another actor there
Speaker 7: shadowing her. She puts people through a really incredible program,
Speaker 7: which I'm definitely curious about. And yeah, it's it's so
Speaker 7: much fun. The last episode of Grays, oh no, the
Speaker 7: second to last episode of Grays I did. I guess uh,
Speaker 7: Kim Raver directed and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: I think the.
Speaker 7: First episode of Grace I did, Kevin mckitt might have
Speaker 7: been directing or the second, Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 7: But it's really fun to be directed by the actors
Speaker 7: on that show. And I do think there's something really
Speaker 7: special about actors who wind up directing. It creates just
Speaker 7: like an energy on set with your coworkers. It's really special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen because Mariushka is down at a bunch
Speaker 1: of times.
Speaker 3: I feel again, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some we've talked to people that have been directed
Speaker 1: by her and it seems like it's a cool Oh,
Speaker 1: it's another level.
Speaker 7: I mean even to be a scene partner with her.
Speaker 7: She is inherent currently, so creative and knows that world
Speaker 7: literally better than anyone. So she's an incredible team leader.
Speaker 7: And then when she's actually in the director's chair, like,
Speaker 7: come on, you can't get better than that?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 2: Where can our listeners find you? What's net?
Speaker 6: Like? What?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yeah? So many fun things? Yeah, projects?
Speaker 3: What's coming up? Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 7: I can tell you guys because the press release just
Speaker 7: dropped today. Uh, Lauren Holly and I have a film
Speaker 7: coming out called broad Trip. We star in it together.
Speaker 7: I executive produced it. It's gonna be on Roku. It
Speaker 7: was like the most exciting thing to get into the
Speaker 7: sauce with. You know, one of the fastest growing streamers
Speaker 7: in the world right now, and I have the most
Speaker 7: wonderful time it's like a nineties era nostalgic rom com.
Speaker 3: It's absent.
Speaker 1: I mean, Lauren Holly is like a huge part of
Speaker 1: my childhood.
Speaker 3: Like I love her so much.
Speaker 7: Like I'm imagine going to work and Lauren Holly's playing
Speaker 7: your mom.
Speaker 3: I mean picket Fences. That's like a huge show for me.
Speaker 7: She is just such a thrill And it's her and
Speaker 7: myself and Steve Guttenberg, who very so I thought he
Speaker 7: was like, no, he answered every question I had about
Speaker 7: three men and a baby sweet angel. Yeah, we just
Speaker 7: we had the time of our lives.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is going to give all the nineties kids
Speaker 1: a real a real.
Speaker 3: Fell you know.
Speaker 7: I got started doing comedy and so to go back
Speaker 7: to my roots and to do something that's just so
Speaker 7: much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've worked on something like you're like on
Speaker 2: a game show network Lie Detector, Like you're like over
Speaker 2: a decade ago.
Speaker 1: This is like, yes, cool, David and I are in
Speaker 1: a mom text thread together in la Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: have to tell.
Speaker 7: You we're just together today. She is so tremendous. Her
Speaker 7: writing is so great. I can't wait for people to
Speaker 7: see this movie. And yeah, my podcast like we said,
Speaker 7: kick in guests are crushing.
Speaker 3: I can't into my life.
Speaker 7: You can listen to Work in Progress anywhere you listen
Speaker 7: to podcasts, And I'm leaving to shoot another movie that
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about yet
Speaker 7: on January second.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you're working, you're doing things, and you
Speaker 1: and people can get both of your podcasts, right, Drama
Speaker 1: Drama Queens and yes, the Working Progress wherever you get
Speaker 1: pods anywhere?
Speaker 3: Truly everything.
Speaker 2: She really was, so my manager, or so I text
Speaker 2: my manager, Brittany. I wrote, love Sophia Bush, and then
Speaker 2: Brittany writes, is she as iconic as she seems? And
Speaker 2: I wrote even more and then Brittany wrote insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah she was.
Speaker 1: So she's it's cool because she's an iconic actress, she's famous,
Speaker 1: but she's also a podcaster, so she like knows how
Speaker 1: to like be good in conversation, Like she's just a
Speaker 1: good conversationalist because she's doing it herself multiple times a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very famous, I mean, and like I like her
Speaker 2: joy her like happiness and doing the work and like
Speaker 2: all the people around her, it seems Yeah, she like
Speaker 2: likes her laugh.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, am I starting to listen to her
Speaker 1: podcast because she did talk to Monica Lewinsky and she
Speaker 1: has talked to Kamala and she's got like all these
Speaker 1: big guests, so no, so fast.
Speaker 3: I love talking to her.
Speaker 1: Love that she's like done so much in her career
Speaker 1: and she's like working with Marishka Tippity top towards the
Speaker 1: top of the list, you know, like iconic.
Speaker 3: We liked her a lot. Yeah, we were happy loved her.
Speaker 1: This episode gee dark as hell, like so many of
Speaker 1: the ones where they tried to tackle where they try
Speaker 1: to tackle human trafficking, which obviously I've had my say
Speaker 1: on human trafficking or whatever. It's not happening in the
Speaker 1: way that SVU always makes it seem all the time.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, living in a post Epstein
Speaker 1: Files semi release, have they fully been released? Not really,
Speaker 1: but it's just really I was sad about the trajectory
Speaker 1: of like, these are two kids from the same family,
Speaker 1: but like one person looked out for Aaron Lindsay and
Speaker 1: the other person didn't look out for Teddy, and their
Speaker 1: lives had such different trajectories, and I just it was
Speaker 1: let's keep an eye out on all.
Speaker 3: These fucking kids. I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 3: my post mortem is on this, like.
Speaker 1: Watch out, watch out for your half brother, don't lose
Speaker 1: track of him for ten years. Also, thank you to
Speaker 1: the hundreds of you who commented Epstein files on the
Speaker 1: bottom of our last post. Some of you DMD it
Speaker 1: to us, which was even better. I would just open
Speaker 1: up dms and be like Epstein vials like we got
Speaker 1: so many responses it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: It's nice to know that a lot of you. Listen
Speaker 3: to the end of the pod.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you see the picture the
Speaker 1: new Luigi that dropped with the court officer behind him
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, you guys are trying to minimize Luigi.
Speaker 1: Look at this icon standing behind him because there's like
Speaker 1: this like cool black woman standing behind him, like posed almost.
Speaker 3: It was like crazy.
Speaker 2: I can't think of another person that's been on trial
Speaker 2: where they've had armed police stand behind.
Speaker 1: Them, Like, what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 1: He doesn't eat, he came.
Speaker 2: From jails, you're real, yeah, Like I it's so annoying.
Speaker 2: You know, they're playing these games trying to make him
Speaker 2: look more dangerous than he is when everyone knows he's
Speaker 2: a sweetie pie. Who's about I mean, I've been talking
Speaker 2: about Luisian stage obviously this whole year. But saying fruit
Speaker 2: of the Poisonous Tree is like the joy of my life.
Speaker 2: Like I love repeating it over and over, and I
Speaker 2: feel so smart every time I say it, and then
Speaker 2: the people that know get it, like it's so.
Speaker 3: It's really fun.
Speaker 1: So I actually have like full Christmas December brain right now,
Speaker 1: where everything is running together in a series of Christmas
Speaker 1: parties and alcohol and being too busy in stressed.
Speaker 2: But like I keep getting accidentally blacked out, and that's
Speaker 2: what I'm upset about. It keeps being casual nights. I
Speaker 2: wear sweatpants. Yesterday I was like, I have a quick
Speaker 2: spot in it. Wow, the sweatpants would be the deterrent.
Speaker 3: No, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: And I went to a bar and I was there
Speaker 2: until like one point thirty for no reason. But I
Speaker 2: did get the Grinch happy meaning or like adult happy meal,
Speaker 2: and I got Grinch socks, which I've really wanted for Christmas.
Speaker 3: That's exciting.
Speaker 1: I want to warn some One of my mom group
Speaker 1: was selling a bunch of vintage nuggets and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get them for you, but somebody had bought them all.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, I have Christmas brain. But
Speaker 1: didn't I hear something that a bunch of shit from
Speaker 1: Luigi's gonna get thrown out, like they didn't mirandize him
Speaker 1: or like, well I've been saying this, you know, for
Speaker 1: my upon months, but yeah, something they all come out.
Speaker 2: No, no, well it's all coming out in these cases,
Speaker 2: but we don't know what's gonna happen. And there is
Speaker 2: stuff I didn't know, but like basically they searched the
Speaker 2: evidence without like a warrant or anything like that, but
Speaker 2: then they didn't find anything, and then body cam footage
Speaker 2: is turned off for I think it was eleven minutes
Speaker 2: or something like that, and then they found all this
Speaker 2: stuff in his backpack, so there's no chain of coming out.
Speaker 2: There's people a lot, like the cops are just bad,
Speaker 2: so they're long. I think they underestimated who they were
Speaker 2: trying to set up.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 2: I don't think, like I don't think Jessica Tish thought
Speaker 2: it through. I don't know, like whoever got this guy's about, Like,
Speaker 2: I think they underestimated his wealth and intelligence and like face,
Speaker 2: I don't know even though we saw the face. But
Speaker 2: also he didn't fight like all of the testimony, but
Speaker 2: the transcripts aren't going to come out until the end
Speaker 2: of the hearing, so I'll have more information hopefully soon.
Speaker 3: But like you think he's being set up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's definitely some due process that
Speaker 1: has been done incorrectly.
Speaker 2: But I think it's a past it because then all
Speaker 2: of so, yeah, like all of this testimony is how
Speaker 2: polite he was, how nice he was. He didn't fight back,
Speaker 2: he did everything they set he was confused like it
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it was a hit. I
Speaker 3: think it was a hit man. I think they're trying
Speaker 3: to put it.
Speaker 2: Out there, yes, because to me, that cocking of the
Speaker 2: gun seemed very professional, like the way it was, like, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how this like gamer with a bad
Speaker 2: back was able to.
Speaker 3: Look for future reference.
Speaker 1: If the government is going to set anybody up, don't
Speaker 1: pick like the hottest guy we've ever seen, who's like
Speaker 1: also super confident and like looks good in every pair
Speaker 1: of clothes that it has ever been thrown his way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they didn't read him as mirandaites for I
Speaker 2: think it was like twenty two minutes. They didn't tell
Speaker 2: him what they were, you know, like all of that.
Speaker 2: But the evidence it's like, you know, they didn't log it,
Speaker 2: like something fucked happen.
Speaker 3: And so I'm hoping they are able to throw stuff out.
Speaker 2: But because if you don't have any of that evidence,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you even have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that evidence, there's no way you're telling me that.
Speaker 4: And it's.
Speaker 3: Manifesto.
Speaker 2: This motherfucker hates everyone so smart, so smart planned everything okay,
Speaker 2: and then left everything. But also in the manifesto and
Speaker 2: he never said it was the cops said it was,
Speaker 2: but it thanks the FBI and police for their hard work.
Speaker 2: And it's like in what we're like, that's so fake.
Speaker 2: I just don't buy it.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're ever going to hear Luigi speak
Speaker 1: on this stuff himself? Like, is he ever going to
Speaker 1: have like a statement that we're going to be able
Speaker 1: to Well.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to be a witness, probably right, or
Speaker 3: I don't know, they don't put those guys up.
Speaker 2: It might all have to be thrown away. But then
Speaker 2: the federal government still wants something. It's like I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it's like a long battle ahead. It's gonna be ears.
Speaker 2: But you yeah, I'm curious, but there's no new court stuff,
Speaker 2: so it's like I don't really try us the news.
Speaker 3: No, I want to read it.
Speaker 1: From I thought somebody messaged me or told me something
Speaker 1: new and I was like, ooh, exciting. But wait, have
Speaker 1: you watched any of the Ditty yet. I haven't watched
Speaker 1: any of the Ditty stuff. I'm not going to because
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be heard. I just heard it's
Speaker 1: really really good. Like I heard it's really good, so
Speaker 1: I want to I'm going to watch it. But did
Speaker 1: you know that like basically some camera crew like approached
Speaker 1: Ditty and was like, we want to film you in
Speaker 1: your days like leading up to trial or whatever, and
Speaker 1: he was like yeah, sure, and then they didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't pay them, and that's when fifty cent came in
Speaker 1: and was like, I'll pay you. And that's how fifty
Speaker 1: cent got like all this fucking footage because he just
Speaker 1: paid the guys for their work and got all their footage.
Speaker 3: I love fifty cent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I met fifty cent when I was a page and
Speaker 1: he was really cool. He was really nice to me
Speaker 1: and like honestly a little flirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who does he go for? He fu, fuck
Speaker 2: you Randall, You're you're a creep. Fuck you Diddy, You're
Speaker 2: a human trafficker. Yeah, he goes after people. A yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm reading. There was actually a new letter December ninth
Speaker 2: to the judge from Karen the lawyer, so I haven't
Speaker 2: read that yet. But new docs, new docs. But yeah, Ceeling,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But those cops did a bad job,
Speaker 2: like cops usually do, so yeah.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. See what happens.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into what would sister Peg do?
Speaker 1: This is our now. Suddenly suddenly I'm getting the venmos.
Speaker 1: Suddenly I'm getting their venmo.
Speaker 3: There they are.
Speaker 1: You have to now there's an emoji and they were like, fine,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: Did you see Zach Woods coming from Quentin Tarantino. I
Speaker 2: literally sent it around to friends. I was like, this
Speaker 2: is so fucking good, This is so good. Zach is
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 3: Do you know him? Do you have a good life? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And he's a really really nice guy. I like that.
Speaker 1: And we don't know each other well, but I did
Speaker 1: that on a plane one time and I saw him
Speaker 1: and he went, Hi, Kara, and I went.
Speaker 3: You know me? Like, I mean, I like we had
Speaker 3: known each other, but I didn't know you knew me,
Speaker 3: But we do.
Speaker 1: He's great, And I feel like you have to be
Speaker 1: like a one hundred percent good guy to have the
Speaker 1: confidence to go after Quentino in this way, because if
Speaker 1: you had shit in your past, that's gonna come up.
Speaker 1: Tarantino's gonna find your shit. But Zach Woods, he's clean,
Speaker 1: he's clean, he's just a good man. And it's like,
Speaker 1: it's not good that you're like a rape apologist and
Speaker 1: then you're out here just like pointing fingers at random
Speaker 1: actors that they're bad.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wait, so we do have to end this obviously it's time.
Speaker 2: Oh we have time. So no, my friend came over.
Speaker 2: You know, we're on a long journey. I think by
Speaker 2: the fourth weekend, I'll have my new bookshelf and I'll
Speaker 2: be fully done. But more stuff left the house, more
Speaker 2: and more and more. I'm getting rid of so much. Okay,
Speaker 2: but we were organizing my bathroom and she looks at me,
Speaker 2: she goes, so you're really shopping in bulk? These days,
Speaker 2: and I went, what And so I didn't realize how
Speaker 2: many of Like I'm just so scared of running out
Speaker 2: of stuff that I have so many multiples of things.
Speaker 2: And I didn't really realize. And I was about to
Speaker 2: be like, no, that actually belongs out here. She goes, no,
Speaker 2: there is one out here, and now there's two more
Speaker 2: down here too, And I go, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So funny, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So she goes, before you buy anything under the sink,
Speaker 2: you actually have a little store, So why don't you have.
Speaker 3: To check here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go shopping in your little store. And then Nicholas,
Speaker 1: what's missing? Yeah, she goes, I use three deodorants a year.
Speaker 1: Maybe she goes, what, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: I got? I don't know. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So funny, it's so nice, Like as someone that's a
Speaker 2: perpetually messy person, We'll see how long I can keep
Speaker 2: it going. I've never been this motivated and this like
Speaker 2: keeping up with it as I have been late.
Speaker 3: But it's just such a better life.
Speaker 2: When there's space and yeah, and things are straightened up,
Speaker 2: and it's like the things that are hanging in my
Speaker 2: closet are just the things I wear now, Like I
Speaker 2: got rid of everything that I do not wear constantly. Oh, capsule,
Speaker 2: capsule and my life's seat.
Speaker 3: Like it just feels calming. I'm enjoying being a home more.
Speaker 1: Like it does feel nice to be a little And
Speaker 1: this is the first episode of the year, so this
Speaker 1: is like kind of not that we're like pro resolution
Speaker 1: or anything, but like it's kind of like a nice
Speaker 1: way for you to start out the holiday season and
Speaker 1: the new year being organized, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm more I've been more, a little bit more productive,
Speaker 2: and I think it's because I'm not overwhelmed by stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I but I do have all my notebooks in
Speaker 2: a bin. And if you see me trying to buy
Speaker 2: a notebook somewhere, please put.
Speaker 3: A stop to it. Please you see.
Speaker 1: Lisa anywhere near a stationery store, I don't care what's
Speaker 1: on the cover of it.
Speaker 3: She can't have it.
Speaker 1: That's so funny, all the notebooks that have been I
Speaker 1: mean I have I'm looking right now at a full
Speaker 1: shelf filled with joke notebooks of me and Jared's.
Speaker 3: What are we going to do with those? Are we
Speaker 3: telling those jokes anymore?
Speaker 1: I don't know them away because they feel kind of
Speaker 1: like scrap, but I don't know well.
Speaker 2: To me, it's like every time she found a set list,
Speaker 2: it's like it is the same eight things over and
Speaker 2: over again ever a while.
Speaker 1: Truly that thing that that would be due open that
Speaker 1: up some of my early thoughts about from stand up,
Speaker 1: what's up with anyone done anything about airports? Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: get into our what would Sister Peg do? This is
Speaker 1: our weekly segment where we direct you towards an organization,
Speaker 1: a book, a movie, a doc something to give you
Speaker 1: more info about what we talked about today. And obviously
Speaker 1: nobody was happy to see where Little Teddy's life ended
Speaker 1: up going, so we wanted this week to point you
Speaker 1: to the National Runaway Safe Line. Their mission is to
Speaker 1: keep America's runaway, homeless and at risk youth safe and
Speaker 1: off the streets. They offer twenty four to seven to
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Speaker 3: One eight hundred Runaway.
Speaker 1: But if you're a parent and you need advice, they
Speaker 1: have resources to deal with you know, children's and children
Speaker 1: and teens who are going through stuff so that they
Speaker 1: don't feel you know, so you can communicate with them
Speaker 1: and hopefully avoid a runaway situation. So for more information
Speaker 1: you can head on over to one eight hundred runaway
Speaker 1: dot org. This is an old organization that's existed for
Speaker 1: decades to help runaways. So yeah, that'll be posted and
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and oh god, I have to
Speaker 3: say it, Rorshack. Oh I said it. It's sorry.
Speaker 2: All the ss and sees together really did intimidate me
Speaker 2: for a moment.
Speaker 3: But we will be doing.
Speaker 2: Rorshack from season twenty six, episode six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen our podcast. This is awesome and well we'll
Speaker 3: have more. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Happy New Year. I hope it's cold and fine
Speaker 2: where you are.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to all of our tommies. We love you, guys.
Speaker 1: Or not cold, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what people want, but I feel it's
Speaker 2: hibernation season and we should be hibernating.
Speaker 3: It's nice and warm here in LLL.
Speaker 1: We wake up and it's forty five, then it gets
Speaker 1: to eighty, and then it goes back to forty five.
Speaker 1: It's kind of insane, crazy, but happy New Year. We
Speaker 1: really love you guys. We'll see you in the New Year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it is the new Year, but
Speaker 1: you know we're on the other side of the time machine,
Speaker 1: so see us soon.
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