WEBVTT - Final Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Popcorn Book Club. I am Dani Schwartz,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as always by Jennifer Right, Tan Tran, Melissa Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cromadannqua. And this week's episode, we have some sad news.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say better sweet, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just bitter. This is our last episode that we're we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be recording as a group, maybe just temporarily. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if we'll ever be reunited as a gang in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good news is that all of us are

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<v Speaker 1>active creators and making things. Uh. And so you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>can can keep hearing us and and seeing us and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing things that we've made uh together from now on. Uh. So,

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<v Speaker 1>before we before we dive into this episode, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just talking in general about adaptations, let's go around, Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 1>Where can the good people find you if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to read more stuff from you? Oh, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter at Jen Ashley Wright, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>find me on the internet at Ashley Wright dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I have a book coming out this spring

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<v Speaker 1>called She Kills Me about female assassins and serial killers

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<v Speaker 1>through history. So it is a very fun and bloody

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<v Speaker 1>good time that sounds delightful Tianne. What about you? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me only on Instagram at Hank Tina.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see some of my stand upon Comedy Central

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<v Speaker 1>Digital and I'll just if you follow me, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be making silly VIDs every now and then and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him. I'm a fan. Thank you love a

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<v Speaker 1>silly did Melissa, Melissa plug your plug your stuff, plug

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<v Speaker 1>your handles. You can find me on Instagram at Melissa Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on Twitter at high Melissa Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>because smalls Saunder is too common, um. And otherwise I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, working on TV shows and movies and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to watch Adult Wednesday Adams, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I made a lot ago that people like

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<v Speaker 1>watching watch. And that's about it. Karama, how about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still floored by the fact that I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa changed her Twitter handle, Like I just was there

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't see it happen. You know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>it before Melissa FTW? It just fells a little two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, which is when I made it, Like no

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<v Speaker 1>one knew when ft W meant anymore. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>changed it, and then they took away my verification because

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<v Speaker 1>I changed my handles. Did you get it? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get it back? No? I haven't gotten it back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how how this letter about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa is no longer verified, also write a letter about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I have never been verified at Karama Drama.

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<v Speaker 1>In case you were wondering that sounds verify that ship. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for me, my name was also taken everywhere, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am Danish Swartz with three z s, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my website is Danish Swartz dot com dot com, but

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<v Speaker 1>the first one is spelled out d T. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was cute and then I realized it took like

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<v Speaker 1>an extra sentence to explain to people. But yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you want me talking more podcasts, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast called Noble Blood where I talk about history. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's fun. Uh, it's very different from this. But with

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<v Speaker 1>all of that out of the way, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, it's been such a pleasure getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>you all so much better in Quarantine and having this

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<v Speaker 1>to look forward to to talk about books because we've

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<v Speaker 1>done this all entirely virtually. Yeah, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>whether virtual works for like Dana and I were in

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<v Speaker 1>the writer's room together and whether writer's room could work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh yeah, but you don't get to become

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<v Speaker 1>friends with those people. And then I realized I became

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Jennifer Tian and Crama all on Zoom in

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, and I feel very grateful for that. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels amazing that we have never met in real life

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<v Speaker 1>or pretty faces in my hand one day. Yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's holding each other's faces in your hands. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to directly into your mouth, making a hand barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's so special that, like it was

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<v Speaker 1>very you know, speaking personally, but for me, our very

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<v Speaker 1>first recording, it was like instant chemistry between all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it felt so easy and so fun. So Dana,

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<v Speaker 1>applause to you for putting this group of women together.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like my criteria was nice people who I like,

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<v Speaker 1>who are easy and fun to talk to, and here

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<v Speaker 1>you all worked out. If you worked do lovely. I

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<v Speaker 1>only like you should have thrown, you know, one person

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<v Speaker 1>who you hated, just to make it a little tent,

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<v Speaker 1>a little drama. Well, it's like that. It's like that

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<v Speaker 1>episode of I Love New York where New York is

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<v Speaker 1>like I got boreds who I ruined lunch intentionally, like

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<v Speaker 1>what a talk a little flavor in there, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like something crazy just for fun. One thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>was reflecting on that I'm really grateful for and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope listeners will followed along our as well, is like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any motivation at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine to do anything, let alone read books very regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just you know, doom scrolling and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think having this to come back to week

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<v Speaker 1>after week and reading with a group of people who

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<v Speaker 1>I really connect with, I honestly can't believe. What did

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<v Speaker 1>we read? Seven books? Yeah, that's a lot of books,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's way more I think I would have read

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<v Speaker 1>probably one if I'm being honest, throughout the quarantine. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very grateful for that, and I think I hope

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners have been too. I feel the exact same way.

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<v Speaker 1>It like got me back into I go through like

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<v Speaker 1>reading phases, and it got me back into a phase

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<v Speaker 1>of reading, like was like getting and getting through books

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<v Speaker 1>like I was in a bad habit of just like

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<v Speaker 1>giving up finishing books, like having to power through because

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<v Speaker 1>we had a group to be accountable, meant that like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I really liked a book that I would have

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<v Speaker 1>given up on. Sometimes it's okay to give up anyway. Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not go through reading phrases, and all I

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<v Speaker 1>did during quarantine was read like a few books every week.

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<v Speaker 1>So um. But what I never get to do is

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<v Speaker 1>talk about books in depth with people who have also

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<v Speaker 1>read them at the same time. And it was so

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<v Speaker 1>lovely to be reading and thinking. Not just I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>this part, but like, oh boy, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what Melissa is going to say about this part

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm so glad. Everybody else in book Club also

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of questions about Wally Lamb's book his

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. Jennifer, are you Are you off Twitter? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you have the time and energy to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have Twitter? One? Not having Twitter on my

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<v Speaker 1>phone is the best thing you can do for your sanity?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you not on your computer all day? Though? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Um no. I used to go out to lunch every

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<v Speaker 1>day and I would just sit for an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>read a book over lunch. So um. Not like some

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<v Speaker 1>play special. You can do it at chapolte or a diner,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I like to do. But um, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, now I still didn't have lunch at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still just read a book over lunch. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so good at routine, you know, it's very good at routine.

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<v Speaker 1>My routine is wake up, scroll on my phone for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour in bed, then scroll for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the day on my computer on my couch. Yeah. That's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very to be able to throw in bother my mom

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<v Speaker 1>into that routine. I just like stroll over to the

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<v Speaker 1>room and I'm like, hey, mom, Mom, like, is the

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<v Speaker 1>plural of Branzino brand Zini? I don't know. She doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks at me, like, what's wrong with you? It's Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it should be. Um well, speaking of Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>and that to segue two, I know this much as true.

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<v Speaker 1>We read a bunch of books that I'm going to recite,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to know if anyone has like stand

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<v Speaker 1>out favorite we read normal people. I know this much

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<v Speaker 1>as true, Lovecraft, Country, they hate you, give Brave New World,

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca and v for Vendetta, seven full books, any standout favorite? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>So just to clarify, just to ask a Branzino Branzini

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<v Speaker 1>question for Claria, So do you want to know which

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<v Speaker 1>book was her favorite, which adaptation was our favorite, or

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<v Speaker 1>which overall book and film slash screen adaptation was I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's an open, open question. You can you

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<v Speaker 1>can be specific to, like my mother answers here, Yeah, heart,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I think the favorite book that I read

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<v Speaker 1>and Chroma was going to hate this is Rebecca. I

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like there was something about it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those books where once I got it took

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit to get into, but once I

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<v Speaker 1>got into her world, I just kept looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the time when I got to go back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, that's what you love in a book,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or that's what I love when I get

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<v Speaker 1>into a book. Um, and I really even though you

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<v Speaker 1>know there were weird parts in it and the ending

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<v Speaker 1>is frustrating, it feels like there's I don't know something

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<v Speaker 1>about the way that was written, and it was a book.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those books that I would have

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<v Speaker 1>given up on had it not been for this book club.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm grateful for. I think my two

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<v Speaker 1>favorite would be Rebecca and also loved Craft Country. The book.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't love the adaptation where I got it was

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<v Speaker 1>be a little too like sci fi horror for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't love like blood and Gore, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>the book wasn't quite as much and I really liked

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<v Speaker 1>reading it. I loved I loved love Craft Country, and

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the adaptation just because like seeing all those

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<v Speaker 1>actors on screen is just a delight and seeing all

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<v Speaker 1>those like it was just so great to see all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And my favorite adaptation was the Rebecca Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>one because I absolutely loved tearing it to shreds, like

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<v Speaker 1>love that's so much, what a blast, Like That's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I love about our book club, Like throughout the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all doing the same thing. So like when I

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<v Speaker 1>jump on phone calls with my friends and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you what are you up to? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing, I'm like the same thing. But book Club

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<v Speaker 1>to me was like my opportunity to gossip, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was my like gossip cathartic like talk about talk some

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<v Speaker 1>ship on like bad yellow suits and like we got

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<v Speaker 1>we got to gossip about fictional character. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>stakes are so low in that you don't hurt an

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<v Speaker 1>you want feelings. Really yeah, it's kind it's kind it's

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<v Speaker 1>generous kind gossip. You get to judge people. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a little generous of all to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>generous gossip. I think that it's just like a primarily

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<v Speaker 1>victimless crime if you're got fake people. My favorite, my okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna do my sort of oh that that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't surprise me favorite, and then my h i'dn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>that favorite. So my unsurprising favorite was The Hate You Give.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that book. I'm glad I finally got

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to read it because I've been saying I

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<v Speaker 1>should read this book, I should read this book. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed talking with Andrew Thomas. I thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. That was what a gift that we got

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<v Speaker 1>to spend that time with her and got to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from her directly. And then I'm like, what a cool,

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<v Speaker 1>normal smart person she wanted. She was a very cool,

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<v Speaker 1>normal smart person. And my surprise favorite was I know

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<v Speaker 1>this much is true honesty. The end was not perfect

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of that you got that casino money, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also will say I love that I predicted that

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<v Speaker 1>he was white presenting person with a father that was

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<v Speaker 1>a person of color and you guys were like really,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like yes, and I just felt it

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<v Speaker 1>through the page. I was like, I see you. You

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<v Speaker 1>you're with me. I see you. And then I was right.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I really enjoyed the crafting of that story

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<v Speaker 1>and watching how like he was building this story with

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<v Speaker 1>all these like little minute details that I was like, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a dumb thing. Why do you include that? And

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<v Speaker 1>then a hundred pages later, I was like, oh, ship,

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<v Speaker 1>that was so important. Yeah, I actually I really agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you in the in the sense that like reading

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<v Speaker 1>a book that's like a thousand plus pages, you like

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<v Speaker 1>get really attached to living in it, and there there

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<v Speaker 1>is like a craft involved in like building that world,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, even though I didn't always agree with like

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<v Speaker 1>the plot decisions, I thought it was like a really

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<v Speaker 1>readable book and it was like it was really fun

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, solving the mysteries and then like

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Italy and hearing the stories, like I

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<v Speaker 1>did have fun reading that. It was it was an

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<v Speaker 1>adventure and I was like, oh, I'm totally along for

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<v Speaker 1>this ride with the guy who maybe had sex with

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<v Speaker 1>this monkey had sex with he think I think he

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<v Speaker 1>just loved it like a good pet. Did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>see did you guys watch the Netflix documentary My Octopus Teacher? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>was he did that octo? I mean there was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>touches maybe or or after it was like some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it helped him later, you know, when he's alone. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>really love the octave in that though. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have not seen this and now I will

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<v Speaker 1>not see it because it sounds very good. It's really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing he does that's inappropriate. I just said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you really love this octopus, and he really really loves

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<v Speaker 1>this octopus. There are a lot of different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>show love. Yeah. Indeed, And just to be clear, Gen,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us are saying that we agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy definitely hooked up with the monkey. The monkey

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<v Speaker 1>was they didn't have sex, but the monkey touched his penis,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of made it that could just happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He could just be an accident that wasn't in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Was intentionally in the book. For it was just an

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<v Speaker 1>uncomp triple moment. Yeah, he was like it was an accident.

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<v Speaker 1>He dressed his penis on like a banana, completely unintentional.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer did did Your favorite favorite might have been I

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<v Speaker 1>love that adaptation. I so rarely read graphic novels. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one that I remember loving as a teenager, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice to revisit it now. Frankly, after Trump

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<v Speaker 1>did not win re election, so I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a little bit too grim to read it

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<v Speaker 1>if Trump had been realerted. So reading it knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>we are heading into um not Trump being precedent makes

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot more palatable. I think you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did enjoy you for Vandanna. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite adaptation was Normal People. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>was so surprised, just so surprised by how good it was,

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<v Speaker 1>because you feel like in that kind of story that

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<v Speaker 1>is so internal like and everything is so unsaid that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, there's no way this is either going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into like a really obnoxious team soap or it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really boring, and it was neither. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really just so beautifully done. That was the only

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<v Speaker 1>one I did not watch, but I did. I did

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<v Speaker 1>purchase a gold chain. I know that that is. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch it, but I got the chain. You can

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<v Speaker 1>still watch it, though, I would say I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like I was watching around Hulu and like sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell when they came back from the car commercial. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that. That's that was my full sense of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I did like it, but the tone to me

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<v Speaker 1>was a little sleepy. I'm still a little salty that

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<v Speaker 1>it was not a period piece of the early two

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't love it. I was just impressed by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I definitely slept through half of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was early quarantine. It was like, this is a nice

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<v Speaker 1>nap show, which I think my endorsement. You get wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>in like a weighted blanket. I just got a weighted blanket. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I never even get Yeah. I love They're really good.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really good for naps. Okay, maybe I need one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite adaptation was V for Vendetta because

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<v Speaker 1>like Turning, I think they plucked the right stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>they made it like a more cohesive story, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make changes Turning anything let him shake. They

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<v Speaker 1>did a good job. They made it emotionally affecting, and

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled out, like I thought, the main message to

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<v Speaker 1>make it an effective to our film. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think some of the parts that they got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>like the computer being in loud with the Chancellor. We're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>parts to get rid of and some of like the

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<v Speaker 1>weird stuff with women that I didn't love and the

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying ending that we wanted to see, like loved that adaptation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>any regrets for stuff that we didn't get to Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sad that we didn't get to finish

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<v Speaker 1>Fingersmith because I love it already. And just watch The

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<v Speaker 1>Handmaid and if you haven't seen it, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>worth watching. It's so beautiful. It's um, it's truly spectacular adaptation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm finished. I'm definitely doing this whole round

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<v Speaker 1>as if we have podcast episodes on it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to watch the movie. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>reading it. I'm really enjoying it. And I had like

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<v Speaker 1>so many ideas. I was like, oh, during the summer,

0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.440
<v Speaker 1>we should do summer blockbusters, so like we should do

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<v Speaker 1>graft Park would have been fun. And also Holes. I

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<v Speaker 1>will to great adaptation. It's genuinely a great adaptation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you haven't read Holes, you should read it.

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<v Speaker 1>The kid is in the movie, yes she is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Shila buff Sigourney Weaver John Voight. That's amazing cast

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<v Speaker 1>the guy Pendleton, A Pendleton, the guy who played mirror

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<v Speaker 1>Face in Watchman. Yes, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That they're their troop leader. Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he's there. Jerk face. Yeah, child prison, it's child prison.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really looking forward to our idea of reading

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<v Speaker 1>Emma and watching Emma. Emma and cluelists. Yeah, I love them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen Clueless ten thousand times, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>read Emma since I was like eleven and thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm smart, I'm reading. I mean, you should

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<v Speaker 1>still do it. I mean I might. I actually also might.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the most recent one? Yeah, I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen zero Emma's and I've read zero Emma's. You

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen Clueless. No, I've seen zero Emma's. Please, I've seen. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, I got very upset because my therapist

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<v Speaker 1>told me she had never seen Clueless, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can continue to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to end as the relationship. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>while ago. I've moved through it. I have that Clueless

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<v Speaker 1>is available to watch on Netflix. A couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>But she'll get to it when she gets to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's me growing Jeremy my fance. I had not

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<v Speaker 1>seen Clueless, and at the beginning of our relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>made him watch it, and I feel like I made

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<v Speaker 1>it really unenjoyable for him because it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where I was just like staring at him,

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<v Speaker 1>staring at the movie while every joke blended and like

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<v Speaker 1>mouthing every word. So it wasn't exactly the experience he

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<v Speaker 1>probably wanted, but I made in my like I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is also an adaptation. I made even watch Paddington

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<v Speaker 1>and then we watched both Paddington's in a row because

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<v Speaker 1>I loved Are They Sweet? Paddington two is a masterpiece,

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<v Speaker 1>great truly in his finest role. What are you on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong side of the internet if you're not hearing

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff about She's watch Paddington one and then Paddington too. Junk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for real, it's very time of years. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>joy okay, ok It's like you know, the term is

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<v Speaker 1>higgy higgy hua okuga. It's a very movie. It's pronounced

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<v Speaker 1>juga huga. It's a very good movie. Makes it feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, I was going to say both, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's like, and thenby sweater and a big cup

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<v Speaker 1>of tea in a movie. I'll do that. I god

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<v Speaker 1>to watch Paddington and then and then text back now

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of your like. I have not seen

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<v Speaker 1>Paddington either, but I have heard only good things about Paddingtons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll watch Paddington. This, I'm true. I am truly blown

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<v Speaker 1>away by this. I have to look. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that we felt strongly about live action. What are

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<v Speaker 1>those movies called c G but that they're not c G.

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<v Speaker 1>I They're all people except Paddington's. Paddington is made of

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<v Speaker 1>what computers? I don't feel strongly about c G I animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel strongly about Paddington. I promise. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>care for baby movies. Um normally I would not car

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<v Speaker 1>c G. I bear because this movie is cleverly for babies.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it on a plane to I will watch

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<v Speaker 1>it anytime. It just on television. Wow, it has a

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight percent. I'm blown people. It's just like it

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<v Speaker 1>knows what it is and it doesn't really well as parasite.

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<v Speaker 1>Something something I've enjoyed about this experience was getting to

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<v Speaker 1>know all of you, especially Jennifer, because you are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most fascinating people I've ever met. Just what

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<v Speaker 1>you said about baby movies just now reminded me that

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<v Speaker 1>you were not allowed to watch animated films as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>so you only watch Turner Corsic movies. Yeah, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we think about having a child, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to think about whether or not we will incorporate

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<v Speaker 1>baby movies into their lifestyle. Okay, but like the Lion

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<v Speaker 1>King is Hamlet, so excuse you, that's that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was baby movies and family movies, Adrian's movies,

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<v Speaker 1>movies that don't have like swear words like baby I

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, just like shapes on a screen. A baby

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't understand Paddington? Do you think about the screen? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the pick are? Do you not watch Pixar movies? I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen up Um, which is Heartbreak. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Rattitui? No? I haven't seen Actually I don't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I made I made Ian watch Ratitude because he had

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<v Speaker 1>never seen it, and it's like maybe my favorite Pixar movie. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>not like Rodents, because that's my solid reason for not

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<v Speaker 1>watching any it makes you like the rodent. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it will, I think it will. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think by the end of it, will I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they should run a restaurant. Yes, yes, yes, give it

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Also Coco, if you wanna. I haven't wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to remember seeing it in the theater and I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to like the whole credits to recover and I was

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<v Speaker 1>still crying at the end. Should we start another podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about movies? You know? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start a podcast that's just talking to Jen about baby movies.

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<v Speaker 1>It should just be called baby movies. Honestly, I think

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>we have another podcast right here radio. The hardest I

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<v Speaker 1>ever cried in a Pixar movie. Has everyone seen Moan? Or?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I spoil it? I'm not gonna Okay, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not spoil it. No spoilers, but I know when you

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<v Speaker 1>cried the climactic song when everyone is sailing together, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't spoil anything, including her grandma. I cried harder than

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I've ever cried. Everything she doesn't know about context means nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, surprised through the movie, She's going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, don't ruin it for me, okay, so whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but that makes me weep like a like a like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I should be. It's not the scene I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about. We'll talk about okay. It's like happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like happy cry, happy tears. Okay, I mean I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. Haddington two is also happy Tears. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's trying to make us watch baby movies and

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<v Speaker 1>baby movies incorporated. We need to do this. It is

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<v Speaker 1>boss baby, part of the baby, not a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>is a capitalist nightmare, a bad movie premise. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a girl boss baby coming up? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>called hashtag girl boss baby? Girl is a girl boss baby?

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm calling it, girl boss baby? Oh what

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<v Speaker 1>is it really call? Like, I don't know there to Okay,

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what it should be called. That movie I watched

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<v Speaker 1>The Hell had a Lady Baby. So away from like

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<v Speaker 1>the book side and more to the movie side. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone have like a favorite adaptation, because I was thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's very few like book movies that are better than

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<v Speaker 1>the book, and I would say I think Fight Club

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<v Speaker 1>the movie is better than the book. And then sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with uh, I think American Psycho of the movie is

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<v Speaker 1>better than the I think because because and then I

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<v Speaker 1>would also say in the David Fincher zone, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Gone Girl and the movie Gone Girl are exactly equal.

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<v Speaker 1>They just keep it. Um. I would rather read the

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>book Gone Girl because I think how much of that

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<v Speaker 1>is about getting inside that character's head head, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit easier to do when you're reading

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<v Speaker 1>her diaries and they give you the voice over though

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, I mean, you don't get like the magic

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>trick of the book, which is amazing. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>they did as good of an adaptation as is possible

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to not be a book. I haven't read Gone Girl,

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>so here's my Gone Girl thing. I bought the audiobook

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Gone Girl to listen to when I was going to sleep,

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>which is not a good idea. Yeah, yeah, it gets

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a little harry there, don't do that. A little spoking

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>odd opinion on Gone Girl, But something I feel very

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>strongly about. I think she should have just stayed with

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Neil Patrick Harris. He had a really nice house. He

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>seemed to love her very much. Oh my God, to

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>travel and Jennifer you lad with He had a really

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>nice house. That's it. It's a thing. It was very

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>nice and he wanted to travel to Grease, but he

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was supposed and play scramb Up, which was but very

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>specific but all really nice things. So nice he was.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 1>She was really controlling of her weight and her hair,

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and he need wanted her to like she did an

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>insane color because like it was restubled that he was like,

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems like you went through some stuff. Here are

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>some nice clothes on something else to move away from this. So,

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>something that I have a strong opinion on in a

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>book to movie adaptation is that the Sisterhood of the

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Traveling Pants truly should have been four separate movies, not

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to movies, and they really messed up the trajectory of

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>those characters by trying to jam the three sequels into

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>one movie. Yes an opinion. How do you feel about

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the the actors for each character? Uh So I think

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>that yes, for b for bridget Um, What's your face Plantation?

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Wedding Lively, Blake Gladly, Thank you. Blake Gladly was a

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>good casting for that. America for Era was great casting.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I feel about Amber Tamblin. I

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like medium about Amber Tamblin as Tibby, and I

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>also feel kind of medium about Alessis ladell Is Lena,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>but I also feel like was a boring character to me.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It was always very Carmen and Bridget heavy. I think

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>she's no one, but she's sort of perfect for Lena

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because Lena is supposed to be like just so pretty

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and boring. Yeah, and she's very pretty and kind of boring.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh and coasts, yes, oh yeah, coasts. I mean I

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>feem boring because I just said it. But I think

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the best adaptation of any book I've ever read is Clueless.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I just think it's one of the best movies

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of all time. I think Elis is an amazing film,

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's really a smart way to bring I feel

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>like there's been a lot of attempts that like modernizing classics,

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like so much Shakespeare, and it just feels like always

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so hack and this was just felt like such a true,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>uh way to kind of take that status and materialist

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>materialism of like Victorian England and make it into laudern

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills. I love it. That's another theme we could

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>have done Shakespeare adaptations. She's the Man's man. Can I

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>do a hot take? That's sort of a weird choice. Yeah.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the best adaptations where the movie

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is so much better than the book is Hunger Games

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Part two Catching Fire. Oh yeah, I agree with that.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a hot take. Okay, well, yeah, the

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Hunger but the Hunger Games books, the first one is

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>really good, and I think that Catching Fire is the

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>best book of the series. And I also think Catching

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Fire is the best film of the series. But I

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>do agree that the film version is better than the

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>book version. I think that there's a step down from

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the first book to Catching Fire, but anthetic and not

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a huge step, but just I like the first one

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>better and then I st stuff down and then I

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>think the next one is bad. Um, but the movies,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the first one is is good and then

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the second one is great, and then they fall off

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a cliff. It's not really funny TikTok about how Hunger

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Games Part two Catching Fire is a real like poke

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>fun at pro life people thing because they get really

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>upset that they're going to set can I spoil? Sorry? Yeah, alright,

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>So they get upset that they're going to send Catnus

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>into the child's murder ring because she's the only child. Yeah,

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>remember the fact that she's a child and you murder

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>her or have her murder other children. She was going

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>into the child murder ring also, did you guys. I

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>think one of the best adaptation of like a book

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>bringing out the best adaptation could be was Greta Gerwig's

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Little Women. Um. I love it. Um. I think I

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have a fondness for the Winona writer Christian Bale one

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that's the one I grew up

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>with and every generation gets there all little more. But

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I think what this one is, So this one was

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>so genius because it's like that one already exists. So

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>this one is almost like in conversation with that one,

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and I think it adds and continues the cultural conversation. Yeah. No,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the ending of the Grete Gerwig one is beautiful. Um.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And really really I think it had a purpose to it,

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it felt like I was talking about

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>with clueless. I. I had another one that I just

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>thought of, um, murder, the Sydney Lumett Murder on the

0:33:55.120 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Orient Express from the seventies she wrote, and I was like, why, Well,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I just grew up like reading a lot of Agatha Christie.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I was really into it, and so I watched all

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of these movies when I was a kid, and like,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the New Murder in their express is very bad. But

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the Sydney Lament one is there's some kind of magic

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in that movie that just makes it so exciting, even

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>if you know the end, which is a big twist

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>at the end. Uh Man. I highly recommend it if

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you can find it. We just watched it recently. That's

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>what made me think of it. Watch that seems also

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like a cozy like fall winter movie, very cozy. Yeah,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Murder that one training in the seventies. It has like

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>so many stars in it. Wait, let me find it.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It has Ingrid Bergman, Albert Finney, Jacqueline Bissette, Sean Connery,

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Perkins, Vanessa Redgrave. It's like, yeah, the new one

0:34:55.320 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in theaters and it was bad, so bad. So there's

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the thing I have to say about the New One.

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>The billboards for it had a television color scheme, and

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that confused me. Say more about that when so so

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>billboards I've noticed for television shows tend to have specific

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>colors that show up more often and like more stylistic

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>things that are like this is TV and it's like

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>very like blue like think of the Euphoria ads, like

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's very television and the Murder on the Orient Express

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>ads looked like TV ads And I was very confused

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>when I found out it was a movie because it

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>just looked like a TV show based on the ads. Okay,

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that might be any thing that might mean be like

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>my little rain Man moment where I'm like, yeah, this

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like TV. No, I get it. I don't Karama.

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw one more adaptation out there that I think,

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like does that smart thing of like not trying to

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be literal with the text, but like have like a

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>take on it. Um. It just came out so I

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>actually saw it because I went to like a drive in.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>It came out in England. It's um a David Copperfield

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>adaptation with dev Patel love so good. I loved it.

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was written by Armando Yannucci who didn't like

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and the thick of it. It's called The Personal History

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of David Copperfield and it's like a very true to

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the spirit of the book David Copperfield with like all

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>just like British comedy actors. And I found it delightful,

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think Dev Patel is so winning. Uh. And

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>at the ending they do, like if you've read the book,

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>they do a thing that is like very smart, sort

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of like a little wom anyway, But overall it's just

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's a rump wrong. It's a wrong British wrong,

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>British romp. See it if you can as my recommendation.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm just gonna share my screen for a

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>second because I feel like I need to vindicate myself.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, So look at the Riverdale advertisement. Ye a

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>TV show show Tvori left, that's still more like Prestige, okay,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Bates Motel. Also it's also TV. And now I want

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you to look at Murder on the Orient Express the

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>feature films like TV you got it looks exactly like

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Bates Motel. See that screen chair was just three TV

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>posters in a row. And then I didn't see a

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>spread of data that was two those two Also, Karama,

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>how did you think of those shows? Like you came

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>up with three shows to look at it? I just

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>know what billboards are supposed to look like for various

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of like how I feel like a lot of

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Amazon show marketing looks like it's it's like selling insurance

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>or something like, Yeah, I see that. I see that. Yeah,

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Like what was that one about it? Like I do

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not get this. I mean, I'm just I'm just trying

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to find overbuttled it right now. What's the Amazon show?

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that show with like Fred Armison and like

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe my Rudolph like holding hands, looked like it was

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like a life insurance like terrific. Um. I heard that. Great,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 1>It's really really good. Um. Every episode has a very

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>dramatic twist at the end and M yeah, yeah, watch it.

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spoil and to thing about it

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.399
<v Speaker 1>for you, but it's worth watching. I like twists. Yeah.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>My favorite movie adaptation is a Giant by Edna Ferber

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 1>made into This is a Criterion collection fun movie, A fun,

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>good time movie with Rock Hudson and Elizabeth Taylor and

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 1>James Dean, who is did you watch it as a babe?

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Who's method acting the way nobody else in the movie

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is because he is acting in the way that the

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>other people in this movie will learn how to act

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>ten years from now. So James Dean is dwelling on

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of personal experience and Elizabeth Taylor and Rock

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Hudson are looking beautiful and saying their lines to each other. Meanwhile,

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>James is like throwing his body against a wall. So

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I've never read or seen this movie. What can you say,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like at it's fascinating. It's about a woman marrying um,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a Texan man, Rock Hudson, who owns acres and acres

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of land in Texas, And it's about the patriarchy failing

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and it being completely fine. Um if you wanted to

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>do like Gone with the Wind, but with progressive politics.

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It is a three hour movie with beautiful costumes and

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of grasping of faces. Way I want

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to address Gone with the Wind with progressive politics. Is

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that possible? Yes? Uh? Yeah, because a lot of it

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>has to do with the fact that Rock Hudson is

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>racist at the beginning of the movie and less racist

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>is there. No, No, it's ties to nineteen fifties, but no,

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a very heavy message on the movie that the

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>best people are the Hispanic people working the ranch and uh,

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and they are being incredibly unfair to them. For like,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that's good message for people to have. Yeah, And at

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of the whole fear is that Rock Hudson

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>will lose like his masculine power and his ranch, and

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the movie, like one of his

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>children has become a doctor for LORI income families, and

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>his daughter has gone off to l A to be

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>a movie star and she's a big weirdo and it's

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>great and um and Rock Hudson has this half a

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Hispanic grandchild now and it's all okay and everybody's happy.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>He sells the ranch and they moved to a normal house.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>It's called Giant. It's called Giant. Yeah. I like that

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>he sells the ranch and there I can't remember if

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they sell the ranch or not. I know that somebody

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>like makes a big offer for the ranch and they're

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna sell it. And and yeah, all of these masculine

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>fears that kind of define the movie and that Elizabeth

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Taylor fights against for most of the movie end up

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>not really being things that were worth bearing. And it's

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>nice and I love it so yeah good, I'm gonna

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>check it out. Don't expect it to be perfect by

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>do look like a movie or TV? Oh, it looks

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>very much like a movie. Karama as a as a kid,

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>my like first sort of taste for adaptations was Royal

0:41:55.040 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Doll Movies, and I loved I didn't love Charlie and

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the Chocolate Factory, but I loved for me, Yeah, as

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>a kid, this is one of my favorite books. And

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>then the movie I was like, this is this is

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>such a wonderful, Like it's so funny Danny DeVito and

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>who is Marl Wilson is so funny, so funny, and

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>also like Miss Honey, her beautiful cottage with all the flowers.

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Every time I like wear glasses, I try to think

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that I look like Miss Honey, and I absolutely do not.

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>She's perfect. I also fantastic. Mr. Fox is a very good.

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Adamson adaptation is very lovely. I think those tend those

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>like lend themselves to good adaptations because they lend themselves

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 1>to strong filmmakers with strong visions, you know, and they're

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>also so visual, like he had those illustrations by Quentin

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Blake that were always like really fun visual images that

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>communicate well to screen. Yeah, that's a good one, Tian.

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just thinking about youth. I want to

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about like what makes a good adaptation, Because Tian,

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you brought up Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which has

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a couple of adaptations. I would say, I don't know.

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>as a film better than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>just because it feels like it's more leaning towards the

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.720
<v Speaker 1>book as as opposed to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>which leans more toward a Tim Burton aesthetic, which is

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>except that he doesn't like black people. But you know

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that's he said black people don't fit his aesthetic. Just

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>think anybody was unaware that. Yeah, But also yeah, I

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it kind of seems like he doesn't have black

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>people in it. I thought you were saying black people don't. Yeah,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>so I've just decided to like bring up some terrible

0:43:53.000 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>beauty like Tim Burton movies and realizing, oh, yeah, no

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>black black people, No, he doesn't. The thing that black

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>people have noticed for a long time, Black people like

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>myself loved him Burton, and he hast the palest white people.

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>He does have the people people He's like, if I

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>get white people, they're gonna be white, none of that

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>han nonsense, literally painted white. But Charlie, the Charlie and

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the Chocolate factory. The book, initially Charlie was supposed to

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>be black, which I think is also in the book.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>The Umpa Loompa's are black. I don't like that. I

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>don't like they just start slaves. They're just who get

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>paid in chocolate. I'm gonna also say Roal Doll had

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>very bad politics and also he's not great on the record.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Hated you. I don't think he liked anyone honestly, but

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>he literally said vaccinated because he had a child die

0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of measles. Well good, but also I did, but he

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>fired you know, he fought in World War Two for

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the British, which like, okay, thank you, right side, But

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>then he said, uh, he's like, well, you know, I

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>hate Hitler as much as everyone, but you know, you

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>gotta it's something with the Jews. If even a stinker

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like Hitler hates even a stinker like Hitler hates them,

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>so it must be something about the logic. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get the exact quote is the wrong logic though, Like,

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>if Hitler is a stinker, then why are you like,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but he's got he's got the right idea on this

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>one group of people. All right, do you want the

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>really bad. Quote. Yes, and and the past. There is

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity.

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a lack of generosity towards non Jews. I

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>mean there's always a reason why Auntie, anything crops up anywhere.

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for no reason. God. I mean, if you and I

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>were in a line moving towards what we knew our

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>gas chambers, I'd rather have a go taking out one

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>of the guards with me. But the Jews were submissive

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that holy okay, not great, not great? Okay, Sorry I

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>brought him up. No. I love Rodel and I grew

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>up like reading all of his books. And I also

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>think that a theme on this podcast that we've had

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to reckon with is like books that we love by

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>people who are not great, and like how because like

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I am Jewish and I read that, and I'm like,

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that's awful, but it's not gonna undo like me being

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>nine and like reading Matilda and loving it. Yeah, it's

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like with J. K. Rowling, it's you know, you read

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>those We read those books before we knew what her

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>views are, and you know, it's hard to unloved those books.

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, you cannot support her, but it's it's so

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>complicated when you are already a fan of something. I'm

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be real honestly, only like one Harry Potter movie

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is the third. It's the best one. It's the best one.

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the best. It's also I went on my first

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>date on that movie. I don't know if he would

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>say it was a date, but I say it was

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a date. Yeah, to date if you went to it's

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a date. Yeah, you know what you know a movie

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I went to see on my first date and it

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>was uh, and I got my first kiss afterward. And

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it was also an adaptation uh, The Boy and the

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Stripe Pajamas. It was like in our town there's like

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>an art theater and it really like only played like

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>one or two movies at the time, and so like

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>neither of us like really knew what we were going into.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't like a wide variety of at home. The

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>boy on the from the movie and you could not

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>kiss after after were like from listeners at home who

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the Boy in the Stripe of Jamas

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>is about. It's about the Holocaust, real Holocaust film I'm

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a Jewish person. That's not like still but he's still kissed.

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.359
<v Speaker 1>He's still kissed. He did. We bonded over, we went

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>through it together, and that the other side was he

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>also Jewish. Yeah, that makes it a little best. We

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't like make out during the movie. We watched the

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>movie and then like sat with it for a while

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and then he kissed me afterward. My first day was

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>also an adaptation Hunting of Heelhouse, which, oh, the black

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and white movie from the sixties, No correl, No, the

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>one was Katherine say to Jones where she wears hie boots,

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was the coolest thing I had

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>ever looking up as a twelve year old. I didn't

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that you went and saw it the week it

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>came out. You do seem like the type of teenager

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 1>who would have gone to see like a revival. Yeah,

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody went to see revivals, right, Yeah? No, I thought, yeah,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>like in theaters. I remember seeing et in theaters when

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. Because No, I went in saw

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 1>slum Dog Millionaire the weekend it came out, and I

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's good ship, and that's the type of

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>teenager I was. Dog Millionaire it's a fun movie. Guys. Great.

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was not a date. I was like ten,

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but it was. I thought it was a date. Uh.

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>And it was for Romeo and Juliette the Leonardo Caaprio

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>one Romeo plus Julian, which is also a great adaptation.

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I would, I would argue, but it was with uh

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>this boy that at the time he was he was

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>just like become every girl's girlfriend for like a week

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>in school, but he was gay and none of us

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>knew that except their parents. Yeah. We uh we we

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 1>both watched it, and I feel like we both fell

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in love with Leonardo capital movie. But I and I

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>was very upset that he didn't kissed me afterward. But

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I was also like that, so it's probably fine. Wait

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>your parents let you go alone. I think they sat

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.919
<v Speaker 1>in the I think his parents sat in the back. Yeah,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty rach. My first day was in sick my sixth

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>grade boyfriend. Uh. We went and saw Rugrats movie, which

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is so dorky and so very a baby movie. We

0:50:54.320 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a baby movie. I I think that Romeo

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>plus Juliet gives a good I think, like what makes

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 1>a good adaptation for me that like adds to the text,

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like a style element that like someone is bringing

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 1>something to it that's not literal, Like if you guys

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>saw the stop motion animated Coraline. Yes, like I heard.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I love the book and the movie is really good

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it adds a new like visual

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>twist to it, like back to Romeo plus Juliet. Something

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 1>that I really like about that adaptation is somewhere where

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it technically diverges from the text but actually

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>adds a lot at the end. If you have not

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>seen or read Romeo and Juliet, I'm going to ruin it,

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a prolog. Yes,

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a prologue, but uh, there's the moment where Romeo

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 1>has taken his like little Poisony poison because he's like,

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>oh sad, my girl's dead, and except you know, sixteen hundreds,

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 1>oh my girl lififts dead and then juliett wakes up.

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>In the text, she technically wakes up after he's already dead,

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but in this they have a moment where they're together

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>before he's going to die. He takes it right as

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>she's waking up, so she saw him take the poison.

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh ship, and he's like, oh ship, and

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>then they have that moment and then she uses her dagger,

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.439
<v Speaker 1>which in that stylistic, stylized version with Boss Lerman, whose

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>movies I generally don't like because they make me physically nauseated,

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>um like just the zooming and physically actually a lot

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of uses the gun which is called a dagger to

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 1>kill herself. And I think that's a really interesting choice

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to have them have that moment together where they both

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 1>know that he's going to die. Yeah, he dies and

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>jokes and John Legozamo is great in that movie. And

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 1>who was the actor that played um what, what's his name?

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember his name, but I knew exactly because

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>he's great. He was in Lost right, Yes, yes, well

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that isn't You can't get any more

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>classic than Shakespeare overall, For me, this has just been

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a delight. Thank you to the listeners who have joined

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 1>us on this journey, and thank you truly to all

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of you who you know came on this adventure. It's

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>been a highlight of my quarantine all the time. Yeah,

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>uh so find us on social media, listen to things

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that we make in the future, and I can't wait

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 1>till I can smoosh your faces in person, breathe right

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>into your mouth. All right, everyone, stay safe out there,

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh, keep reading. Is that a good send off?

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 1>All right? Keep reading so you can be smug when

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the adaptation comes out and you can say the book

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was better. Yes, that's perfect. That's our show for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening. I'm Danis Schwartz and

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