Speaker 1: Welcome back to Popcorn Book Club. I am Dani Schwartz,
Speaker 1: joined as always by Jennifer Right, Tan Tran, Melissa Hunter,
Speaker 1: and Cromadannqua. And this week's episode, we have some sad news.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say better sweet, but I think it's
Speaker 1: just bitter. This is our last episode that we're we'll
Speaker 1: be recording as a group, maybe just temporarily. Who knows
Speaker 1: if we'll ever be reunited as a gang in the future.
Speaker 1: But the good news is that all of us are
Speaker 1: active creators and making things. Uh. And so you definitely
Speaker 1: can can keep hearing us and and seeing us and
Speaker 1: seeing things that we've made uh together from now on. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: before we before we dive into this episode, which we'll
Speaker 1: just talking in general about adaptations, let's go around, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: Where can the good people find you if they want
Speaker 1: to read more stuff from you? Oh, you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jen Ashley Wright, or you can
Speaker 1: find me on the internet at Ashley Wright dot com.
Speaker 1: And um, I have a book coming out this spring
Speaker 1: called She Kills Me about female assassins and serial killers
Speaker 1: through history. So it is a very fun and bloody
Speaker 1: good time that sounds delightful Tianne. What about you? Um.
Speaker 1: You can find me only on Instagram at Hank Tina.
Speaker 1: You can see some of my stand upon Comedy Central
Speaker 1: Digital and I'll just if you follow me, I'll just
Speaker 1: be making silly VIDs every now and then and that's it.
Speaker 1: I love him. I'm a fan. Thank you love a
Speaker 1: silly did Melissa, Melissa plug your plug your stuff, plug
Speaker 1: your handles. You can find me on Instagram at Melissa Hunter.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at high Melissa Hunter
Speaker 1: because smalls Saunder is too common, um. And otherwise I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, working on TV shows and movies and
Speaker 1: if you want to watch Adult Wednesday Adams, that's the
Speaker 1: thing that I made a lot ago that people like
Speaker 1: watching watch. And that's about it. Karama, how about you.
Speaker 1: I'm still floored by the fact that I didn't realize
Speaker 1: Melissa changed her Twitter handle, Like I just was there
Speaker 1: and I didn't see it happen. You know, what was
Speaker 1: it before Melissa FTW? It just fells a little two
Speaker 1: thousand nine, which is when I made it, Like no
Speaker 1: one knew when ft W meant anymore. And then I
Speaker 1: changed it, and then they took away my verification because
Speaker 1: I changed my handles. Did you get it? Did you
Speaker 1: get it back? No? I haven't gotten it back. I
Speaker 1: don't know how how this letter about the fact that
Speaker 1: Melissa is no longer verified, also write a letter about
Speaker 1: the fact that I have never been verified at Karama Drama.
Speaker 1: In case you were wondering that sounds verify that ship. Uh.
Speaker 1: Well for me, my name was also taken everywhere, so
Speaker 1: I am Danish Swartz with three z s, and then
Speaker 1: my website is Danish Swartz dot com dot com, but
Speaker 1: the first one is spelled out d T. I thought
Speaker 1: it was cute and then I realized it took like
Speaker 1: an extra sentence to explain to people. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: if you want me talking more podcasts, I have a
Speaker 1: podcast called Noble Blood where I talk about history. That's
Speaker 1: that's fun. Uh, it's very different from this. But with
Speaker 1: all of that out of the way, I just want
Speaker 1: to say, it's been such a pleasure getting to know
Speaker 1: you all so much better in Quarantine and having this
Speaker 1: to look forward to to talk about books because we've
Speaker 1: done this all entirely virtually. Yeah, we were talking about
Speaker 1: whether virtual works for like Dana and I were in
Speaker 1: the writer's room together and whether writer's room could work.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, but you don't get to become
Speaker 1: friends with those people. And then I realized I became
Speaker 1: friends with Jennifer Tian and Crama all on Zoom in
Speaker 1: this podcast, and I feel very grateful for that. It
Speaker 1: feels amazing that we have never met in real life
Speaker 1: or pretty faces in my hand one day. Yes, because
Speaker 1: it's holding each other's faces in your hands. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to directly into your mouth, making a hand barrier.
Speaker 1: I also think it's so special that, like it was
Speaker 1: very you know, speaking personally, but for me, our very
Speaker 1: first recording, it was like instant chemistry between all of us,
Speaker 1: Like it felt so easy and so fun. So Dana,
Speaker 1: applause to you for putting this group of women together.
Speaker 1: I feel like my criteria was nice people who I like,
Speaker 1: who are easy and fun to talk to, and here
Speaker 1: you all worked out. If you worked do lovely. I
Speaker 1: only like you should have thrown, you know, one person
Speaker 1: who you hated, just to make it a little tent,
Speaker 1: a little drama. Well, it's like that. It's like that
Speaker 1: episode of I Love New York where New York is
Speaker 1: like I got boreds who I ruined lunch intentionally, like
Speaker 1: what a talk a little flavor in there, which is
Speaker 1: like something crazy just for fun. One thing that I
Speaker 1: was reflecting on that I'm really grateful for and I
Speaker 1: hope listeners will followed along our as well, is like
Speaker 1: I didn't have any motivation at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: quarantine to do anything, let alone read books very regularly.
Speaker 1: I was just you know, doom scrolling and all of that.
Speaker 1: And I think having this to come back to week
Speaker 1: after week and reading with a group of people who
Speaker 1: I really connect with, I honestly can't believe. What did
Speaker 1: we read? Seven books? Yeah, that's a lot of books,
Speaker 1: Like that's way more I think I would have read
Speaker 1: probably one if I'm being honest, throughout the quarantine. So
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for that, and I think I hope
Speaker 1: the listeners have been too. I feel the exact same way.
Speaker 1: It like got me back into I go through like
Speaker 1: reading phases, and it got me back into a phase
Speaker 1: of reading, like was like getting and getting through books
Speaker 1: like I was in a bad habit of just like
Speaker 1: giving up finishing books, like having to power through because
Speaker 1: we had a group to be accountable, meant that like
Speaker 1: sometimes I really liked a book that I would have
Speaker 1: given up on. Sometimes it's okay to give up anyway. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: I do not go through reading phrases, and all I
Speaker 1: did during quarantine was read like a few books every week.
Speaker 1: So um. But what I never get to do is
Speaker 1: talk about books in depth with people who have also
Speaker 1: read them at the same time. And it was so
Speaker 1: lovely to be reading and thinking. Not just I enjoyed
Speaker 1: this part, but like, oh boy, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: hear what Melissa is going to say about this part
Speaker 1: or I'm so glad. Everybody else in book Club also
Speaker 1: has a lot of questions about Wally Lamb's book his
Speaker 1: entire life. Jennifer, are you Are you off Twitter? How
Speaker 1: do you have the time and energy to do that?
Speaker 1: She doesn't have Twitter? One? Not having Twitter on my
Speaker 1: phone is the best thing you can do for your sanity?
Speaker 1: Are you not on your computer all day? Though? No?
Speaker 1: Um no. I used to go out to lunch every
Speaker 1: day and I would just sit for an hour and
Speaker 1: read a book over lunch. So um. Not like some
Speaker 1: play special. You can do it at chapolte or a diner,
Speaker 1: which is what I like to do. But um, yeah.
Speaker 1: So you know, now I still didn't have lunch at home,
Speaker 1: and I still just read a book over lunch. It's
Speaker 1: so good at routine, you know, it's very good at routine.
Speaker 1: My routine is wake up, scroll on my phone for
Speaker 1: an hour in bed, then scroll for the rest of
Speaker 1: the day on my computer on my couch. Yeah. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: very to be able to throw in bother my mom
Speaker 1: into that routine. I just like stroll over to the
Speaker 1: room and I'm like, hey, mom, Mom, like, is the
Speaker 1: plural of Branzino brand Zini? I don't know. She doesn't.
Speaker 1: She looks at me, like, what's wrong with you? It's Italian.
Speaker 1: It feels like it should be. Um well, speaking of Italian,
Speaker 1: and that to segue two, I know this much as true.
Speaker 1: We read a bunch of books that I'm going to recite,
Speaker 1: and I want to know if anyone has like stand
Speaker 1: out favorite we read normal people. I know this much
Speaker 1: as true, Lovecraft, Country, they hate you, give Brave New World,
Speaker 1: Rebecca and v for Vendetta, seven full books, any standout favorite? Wait,
Speaker 1: So just to clarify, just to ask a Branzino Branzini
Speaker 1: question for Claria, So do you want to know which
Speaker 1: book was her favorite, which adaptation was our favorite, or
Speaker 1: which overall book and film slash screen adaptation was I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess it's an open, open question. You can you
Speaker 1: can be specific to, like my mother answers here, Yeah, heart,
Speaker 1: I do. I think the favorite book that I read
Speaker 1: and Chroma was going to hate this is Rebecca. I
Speaker 1: really felt like there was something about it. It was
Speaker 1: one of those books where once I got it took
Speaker 1: me a little bit to get into, but once I
Speaker 1: got into her world, I just kept looking forward to
Speaker 1: the time when I got to go back to it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, that's what you love in a book,
Speaker 1: you know, or that's what I love when I get
Speaker 1: into a book. Um, and I really even though you
Speaker 1: know there were weird parts in it and the ending
Speaker 1: is frustrating, it feels like there's I don't know something
Speaker 1: about the way that was written, and it was a book.
Speaker 1: It was one of those books that I would have
Speaker 1: given up on had it not been for this book club.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm grateful for. I think my two
Speaker 1: favorite would be Rebecca and also loved Craft Country. The book.
Speaker 1: I didn't love the adaptation where I got it was
Speaker 1: be a little too like sci fi horror for me,
Speaker 1: Like I don't love like blood and Gore, um, but
Speaker 1: the book wasn't quite as much and I really liked
Speaker 1: reading it. I loved I loved love Craft Country, and
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the adaptation just because like seeing all those
Speaker 1: actors on screen is just a delight and seeing all
Speaker 1: those like it was just so great to see all
Speaker 1: of them. And my favorite adaptation was the Rebecca Netflix
Speaker 1: one because I absolutely loved tearing it to shreds, like
Speaker 1: love that's so much, what a blast, Like That's the
Speaker 1: thing I love about our book club, Like throughout the pandemic,
Speaker 1: we're all doing the same thing. So like when I
Speaker 1: jump on phone calls with my friends and they're like,
Speaker 1: what do you what are you up to? What are
Speaker 1: you doing, I'm like the same thing. But book Club
Speaker 1: to me was like my opportunity to gossip, Like it
Speaker 1: was my like gossip cathartic like talk about talk some
Speaker 1: ship on like bad yellow suits and like we got
Speaker 1: we got to gossip about fictional character. And it's the
Speaker 1: stakes are so low in that you don't hurt an
Speaker 1: you want feelings. Really yeah, it's kind it's kind it's
Speaker 1: generous kind gossip. You get to judge people. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a little generous of all to say it's
Speaker 1: generous gossip. I think that it's just like a primarily
Speaker 1: victimless crime if you're got fake people. My favorite, my okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do my sort of oh that that
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me favorite, and then my h i'dn't expect
Speaker 1: that favorite. So my unsurprising favorite was The Hate You Give.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that book. I'm glad I finally got
Speaker 1: the opportunity to read it because I've been saying I
Speaker 1: should read this book, I should read this book. And
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed talking with Andrew Thomas. I thought she
Speaker 1: was incredible. That was what a gift that we got
Speaker 1: to spend that time with her and got to hear
Speaker 1: from her directly. And then I'm like, what a cool,
Speaker 1: normal smart person she wanted. She was a very cool,
Speaker 1: normal smart person. And my surprise favorite was I know
Speaker 1: this much is true honesty. The end was not perfect
Speaker 1: in terms of that you got that casino money, but
Speaker 1: I also will say I love that I predicted that
Speaker 1: he was white presenting person with a father that was
Speaker 1: a person of color and you guys were like really,
Speaker 1: and I was like yes, and I just felt it
Speaker 1: through the page. I was like, I see you. You
Speaker 1: you're with me. I see you. And then I was right.
Speaker 1: But no, I really enjoyed the crafting of that story
Speaker 1: and watching how like he was building this story with
Speaker 1: all these like little minute details that I was like, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's a dumb thing. Why do you include that? And
Speaker 1: then a hundred pages later, I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: that was so important. Yeah, I actually I really agree
Speaker 1: with you in the in the sense that like reading
Speaker 1: a book that's like a thousand plus pages, you like
Speaker 1: get really attached to living in it, and there there
Speaker 1: is like a craft involved in like building that world,
Speaker 1: and like, even though I didn't always agree with like
Speaker 1: the plot decisions, I thought it was like a really
Speaker 1: readable book and it was like it was really fun
Speaker 1: and like you know, solving the mysteries and then like
Speaker 1: going back to Italy and hearing the stories, like I
Speaker 1: did have fun reading that. It was it was an
Speaker 1: adventure and I was like, oh, I'm totally along for
Speaker 1: this ride with the guy who maybe had sex with
Speaker 1: this monkey had sex with he think I think he
Speaker 1: just loved it like a good pet. Did you guys
Speaker 1: see did you guys watch the Netflix documentary My Octopus Teacher? Yes,
Speaker 1: was he did that octo? I mean there was definitely
Speaker 1: touches maybe or or after it was like some you know,
Speaker 1: it helped him later, you know, when he's alone. Though,
Speaker 1: really love the octave in that though. It was great.
Speaker 1: But I have not seen this and now I will
Speaker 1: not see it because it sounds very good. It's really good,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing he does that's inappropriate. I just said, like,
Speaker 1: you really love this octopus, and he really really loves
Speaker 1: this octopus. There are a lot of different ways to
Speaker 1: show love. Yeah. Indeed, And just to be clear, Gen,
Speaker 1: none of us are saying that we agree with you.
Speaker 1: That guy definitely hooked up with the monkey. The monkey
Speaker 1: was they didn't have sex, but the monkey touched his penis,
Speaker 1: and you kind of made it that could just happen.
Speaker 1: He could just be an accident that wasn't in the book.
Speaker 1: Was intentionally in the book. For it was just an
Speaker 1: uncomp triple moment. Yeah, he was like it was an accident.
Speaker 1: He dressed his penis on like a banana, completely unintentional.
Speaker 1: Jennifer did did Your favorite favorite might have been I
Speaker 1: love that adaptation. I so rarely read graphic novels. It's
Speaker 1: one that I remember loving as a teenager, and it
Speaker 1: was so nice to revisit it now. Frankly, after Trump
Speaker 1: did not win re election, so I think it would
Speaker 1: have been a little bit too grim to read it
Speaker 1: if Trump had been realerted. So reading it knowing that
Speaker 1: we are heading into um not Trump being precedent makes
Speaker 1: it a lot more palatable. I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I really did enjoy you for Vandanna. I would say
Speaker 1: my favorite adaptation was Normal People. I feel like I
Speaker 1: was so surprised, just so surprised by how good it was,
Speaker 1: because you feel like in that kind of story that
Speaker 1: is so internal like and everything is so unsaid that
Speaker 1: it's like, there's no way this is either going to
Speaker 1: turn into like a really obnoxious team soap or it's
Speaker 1: going to be really boring, and it was neither. It
Speaker 1: was really just so beautifully done. That was the only
Speaker 1: one I did not watch, but I did. I did
Speaker 1: purchase a gold chain. I know that that is. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it, but I got the chain. You can
Speaker 1: still watch it, though, I would say I thought that
Speaker 1: sometimes like I was watching around Hulu and like sometimes
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell when they came back from the car commercial. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said that. That's that was my full sense of it.
Speaker 1: Like I did like it, but the tone to me
Speaker 1: was a little sleepy. I'm still a little salty that
Speaker 1: it was not a period piece of the early two
Speaker 1: I didn't love it. I was just impressed by it.
Speaker 1: I think I definitely slept through half of it. It
Speaker 1: was early quarantine. It was like, this is a nice
Speaker 1: nap show, which I think my endorsement. You get wrapped
Speaker 1: in like a weighted blanket. I just got a weighted blanket. Oh,
Speaker 1: I never even get Yeah. I love They're really good.
Speaker 1: They're really good for naps. Okay, maybe I need one.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite adaptation was V for Vendetta because
Speaker 1: like Turning, I think they plucked the right stuff and
Speaker 1: they made it like a more cohesive story, like you
Speaker 1: have to make changes Turning anything let him shake. They
Speaker 1: did a good job. They made it emotionally affecting, and
Speaker 1: they pulled out, like I thought, the main message to
Speaker 1: make it an effective to our film. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: think some of the parts that they got rid of
Speaker 1: like the computer being in loud with the Chancellor. We're okay,
Speaker 1: parts to get rid of and some of like the
Speaker 1: weird stuff with women that I didn't love and the
Speaker 1: satisfying ending that we wanted to see, like loved that adaptation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any regrets for stuff that we didn't get to Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: I am so sad that we didn't get to finish
Speaker 1: Fingersmith because I love it already. And just watch The
Speaker 1: Handmaid and if you haven't seen it, it's just so
Speaker 1: worth watching. It's so beautiful. It's um, it's truly spectacular adaptation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm finished. I'm definitely doing this whole round
Speaker 1: as if we have podcast episodes on it, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the movie. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: reading it. I'm really enjoying it. And I had like
Speaker 1: so many ideas. I was like, oh, during the summer,
Speaker 1: we should do summer blockbusters, so like we should do
Speaker 1: graft Park would have been fun. And also Holes. I
Speaker 1: will to great adaptation. It's genuinely a great adaptation. I
Speaker 1: think if you haven't read Holes, you should read it.
Speaker 1: The kid is in the movie, yes she is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Shila buff Sigourney Weaver John Voight. That's amazing cast
Speaker 1: the guy Pendleton, A Pendleton, the guy who played mirror
Speaker 1: Face in Watchman. Yes, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That they're their troop leader. Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he's there. Jerk face. Yeah, child prison, it's child prison.
Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to our idea of reading
Speaker 1: Emma and watching Emma. Emma and cluelists. Yeah, I love them,
Speaker 1: and I've seen Clueless ten thousand times, but I haven't
Speaker 1: read Emma since I was like eleven and thought it
Speaker 1: was like, I'm smart, I'm reading. I mean, you should
Speaker 1: still do it. I mean I might. I actually also might.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the most recent one? Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 1: I've seen zero Emma's and I've read zero Emma's. You
Speaker 1: haven't seen Clueless. No, I've seen zero Emma's. Please, I've seen. Actually,
Speaker 1: for a second, I got very upset because my therapist
Speaker 1: told me she had never seen Clueless, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can continue to see you.
Speaker 1: You have to end as the relationship. It was a
Speaker 1: while ago. I've moved through it. I have that Clueless
Speaker 1: is available to watch on Netflix. A couple of times.
Speaker 1: But she'll get to it when she gets to it,
Speaker 1: and that's me growing Jeremy my fance. I had not
Speaker 1: seen Clueless, and at the beginning of our relationship, I
Speaker 1: made him watch it, and I feel like I made
Speaker 1: it really unenjoyable for him because it was one of
Speaker 1: those things where I was just like staring at him,
Speaker 1: staring at the movie while every joke blended and like
Speaker 1: mouthing every word. So it wasn't exactly the experience he
Speaker 1: probably wanted, but I made in my like I guess
Speaker 1: this is also an adaptation. I made even watch Paddington
Speaker 1: and then we watched both Paddington's in a row because
Speaker 1: I loved Are They Sweet? Paddington two is a masterpiece,
Speaker 1: great truly in his finest role. What are you on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of the internet if you're not hearing
Speaker 1: good stuff about She's watch Paddington one and then Paddington too. Junk.
Speaker 1: It's for real, it's very time of years. It's a
Speaker 1: joy okay, ok It's like you know, the term is
Speaker 1: higgy higgy hua okuga. It's a very movie. It's pronounced
Speaker 1: juga huga. It's a very good movie. Makes it feel good.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I was going to say both, yes,
Speaker 1: that's it's like, and thenby sweater and a big cup
Speaker 1: of tea in a movie. I'll do that. I god
Speaker 1: to watch Paddington and then and then text back now
Speaker 1: and a half of your like. I have not seen
Speaker 1: Paddington either, but I have heard only good things about Paddingtons. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll watch Paddington. This, I'm true. I am truly blown
Speaker 1: away by this. I have to look. I just didn't
Speaker 1: know that we felt strongly about live action. What are
Speaker 1: those movies called c G but that they're not c G.
Speaker 1: I They're all people except Paddington's. Paddington is made of
Speaker 1: what computers? I don't feel strongly about c G I animals.
Speaker 1: I feel strongly about Paddington. I promise. I do not
Speaker 1: care for baby movies. Um normally I would not car
Speaker 1: c G. I bear because this movie is cleverly for babies.
Speaker 1: I saw it on a plane to I will watch
Speaker 1: it anytime. It just on television. Wow, it has a
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent. I'm blown people. It's just like it
Speaker 1: knows what it is and it doesn't really well as parasite.
Speaker 1: Something something I've enjoyed about this experience was getting to
Speaker 1: know all of you, especially Jennifer, because you are one
Speaker 1: of the most fascinating people I've ever met. Just what
Speaker 1: you said about baby movies just now reminded me that
Speaker 1: you were not allowed to watch animated films as a child,
Speaker 1: so you only watch Turner Corsic movies. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: you know, as we think about having a child, we
Speaker 1: have to think about whether or not we will incorporate
Speaker 1: baby movies into their lifestyle. Okay, but like the Lion
Speaker 1: King is Hamlet, so excuse you, that's that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I think there was baby movies and family movies, Adrian's movies,
Speaker 1: movies that don't have like swear words like baby I
Speaker 1: or whatever, just like shapes on a screen. A baby
Speaker 1: wouldn't understand Paddington? Do you think about the screen? Are
Speaker 1: the pick are? Do you not watch Pixar movies? I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen up Um, which is Heartbreak. Have you seen
Speaker 1: Have you seen Rattitui? No? I haven't seen Actually I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I made I made Ian watch Ratitude because he had
Speaker 1: never seen it, and it's like maybe my favorite Pixar movie. Also,
Speaker 1: not like Rodents, because that's my solid reason for not
Speaker 1: watching any it makes you like the rodent. I don't
Speaker 1: think it will, I think it will. I think I
Speaker 1: think by the end of it, will I think that
Speaker 1: they should run a restaurant. Yes, yes, yes, give it
Speaker 1: a chance. Also Coco, if you wanna. I haven't wanted
Speaker 1: to remember seeing it in the theater and I needed
Speaker 1: to like the whole credits to recover and I was
Speaker 1: still crying at the end. Should we start another podcast
Speaker 1: where we talk about movies? You know? I want to
Speaker 1: start a podcast that's just talking to Jen about baby movies.
Speaker 1: It should just be called baby movies. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: we have another podcast right here radio. The hardest I
Speaker 1: ever cried in a Pixar movie. Has everyone seen Moan? Or?
Speaker 1: Can I spoil it? I'm not gonna Okay, I will
Speaker 1: not spoil it. No spoilers, but I know when you
Speaker 1: cried the climactic song when everyone is sailing together, that
Speaker 1: doesn't spoil anything, including her grandma. I cried harder than
Speaker 1: I've ever cried. Everything she doesn't know about context means nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, surprised through the movie, She's going to be like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, don't ruin it for me, okay, so whatever,
Speaker 1: but that makes me weep like a like a like yeah,
Speaker 1: like I should be. It's not the scene I thought
Speaker 1: you were talking about. We'll talk about okay. It's like happy.
Speaker 1: It's like happy cry, happy tears. Okay, I mean I'll
Speaker 1: watch it. Haddington two is also happy Tears. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to make us watch baby movies and
Speaker 1: baby movies incorporated. We need to do this. It is
Speaker 1: boss baby, part of the baby, not a movie that
Speaker 1: is a capitalist nightmare, a bad movie premise. Did you
Speaker 1: know there's a girl boss baby coming up? Is it
Speaker 1: called hashtag girl boss baby? Girl is a girl boss baby?
Speaker 1: That's where I'm calling it, girl boss baby? Oh what
Speaker 1: is it really call? Like, I don't know there to Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it should be called. That movie I watched
Speaker 1: The Hell had a Lady Baby. So away from like
Speaker 1: the book side and more to the movie side. Does
Speaker 1: anyone have like a favorite adaptation, because I was thinking, like,
Speaker 1: there's very few like book movies that are better than
Speaker 1: the book, and I would say I think Fight Club
Speaker 1: the movie is better than the book. And then sticking
Speaker 1: with uh, I think American Psycho of the movie is
Speaker 1: better than the I think because because and then I
Speaker 1: would also say in the David Fincher zone, I think
Speaker 1: Gone Girl and the movie Gone Girl are exactly equal.
Speaker 1: They just keep it. Um. I would rather read the
Speaker 1: book Gone Girl because I think how much of that
Speaker 1: is about getting inside that character's head head, And it's
Speaker 1: just a little bit easier to do when you're reading
Speaker 1: her diaries and they give you the voice over though
Speaker 1: that's like, I mean, you don't get like the magic
Speaker 1: trick of the book, which is amazing. But I think
Speaker 1: they did as good of an adaptation as is possible
Speaker 1: to not be a book. I haven't read Gone Girl,
Speaker 1: so here's my Gone Girl thing. I bought the audiobook
Speaker 1: Gone Girl to listen to when I was going to sleep,
Speaker 1: which is not a good idea. Yeah, yeah, it gets
Speaker 1: a little harry there, don't do that. A little spoking
Speaker 1: odd opinion on Gone Girl, But something I feel very
Speaker 1: strongly about. I think she should have just stayed with
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris. He had a really nice house. He
Speaker 1: seemed to love her very much. Oh my God, to
Speaker 1: travel and Jennifer you lad with He had a really
Speaker 1: nice house. That's it. It's a thing. It was very
Speaker 1: nice and he wanted to travel to Grease, but he
Speaker 1: was supposed and play scramb Up, which was but very
Speaker 1: specific but all really nice things. So nice he was.
Speaker 1: She was really controlling of her weight and her hair,
Speaker 1: and he need wanted her to like she did an
Speaker 1: insane color because like it was restubled that he was like,
Speaker 1: it seems like you went through some stuff. Here are
Speaker 1: some nice clothes on something else to move away from this. So,
Speaker 1: something that I have a strong opinion on in a
Speaker 1: book to movie adaptation is that the Sisterhood of the
Speaker 1: Traveling Pants truly should have been four separate movies, not
Speaker 1: to movies, and they really messed up the trajectory of
Speaker 1: those characters by trying to jam the three sequels into
Speaker 1: one movie. Yes an opinion. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: the the actors for each character? Uh So I think
Speaker 1: that yes, for b for bridget Um, What's your face Plantation?
Speaker 1: Wedding Lively, Blake Gladly, Thank you. Blake Gladly was a
Speaker 1: good casting for that. America for Era was great casting.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about Amber Tamblin. I
Speaker 1: feel like medium about Amber Tamblin as Tibby, and I
Speaker 1: also feel kind of medium about Alessis ladell Is Lena,
Speaker 1: but I also feel like was a boring character to me.
Speaker 1: It was always very Carmen and Bridget heavy. I think
Speaker 1: she's no one, but she's sort of perfect for Lena
Speaker 1: because Lena is supposed to be like just so pretty
Speaker 1: and boring. Yeah, and she's very pretty and kind of boring.
Speaker 1: Oh and coasts, yes, oh yeah, coasts. I mean I
Speaker 1: feem boring because I just said it. But I think
Speaker 1: the best adaptation of any book I've ever read is Clueless.
Speaker 1: Like I just think it's one of the best movies
Speaker 1: of all time. I think Elis is an amazing film,
Speaker 1: and it's really a smart way to bring I feel
Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of attempts that like modernizing classics,
Speaker 1: like so much Shakespeare, and it just feels like always
Speaker 1: so hack and this was just felt like such a true,
Speaker 1: uh way to kind of take that status and materialist
Speaker 1: materialism of like Victorian England and make it into laudern
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I love it. That's another theme we could
Speaker 1: have done Shakespeare adaptations. She's the Man's man. Can I
Speaker 1: do a hot take? That's sort of a weird choice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think one of the best adaptations where the movie
Speaker 1: is so much better than the book is Hunger Games
Speaker 1: Part two Catching Fire. Oh yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a hot take. Okay, well, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Hunger but the Hunger Games books, the first one is
Speaker 1: really good, and I think that Catching Fire is the
Speaker 1: best book of the series. And I also think Catching
Speaker 1: Fire is the best film of the series. But I
Speaker 1: do agree that the film version is better than the
Speaker 1: book version. I think that there's a step down from
Speaker 1: the first book to Catching Fire, but anthetic and not
Speaker 1: a huge step, but just I like the first one
Speaker 1: better and then I st stuff down and then I
Speaker 1: think the next one is bad. Um, but the movies,
Speaker 1: I think the first one is is good and then
Speaker 1: the second one is great, and then they fall off
Speaker 1: a cliff. It's not really funny TikTok about how Hunger
Speaker 1: Games Part two Catching Fire is a real like poke
Speaker 1: fun at pro life people thing because they get really
Speaker 1: upset that they're going to set can I spoil? Sorry? Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: So they get upset that they're going to send Catnus
Speaker 1: into the child's murder ring because she's the only child. Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember the fact that she's a child and you murder
Speaker 1: her or have her murder other children. She was going
Speaker 1: into the child murder ring also, did you guys. I
Speaker 1: think one of the best adaptation of like a book
Speaker 1: bringing out the best adaptation could be was Greta Gerwig's
Speaker 1: Little Women. Um. I love it. Um. I think I
Speaker 1: have a fondness for the Winona writer Christian Bale one
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the one I grew up
Speaker 1: with and every generation gets there all little more. But
Speaker 1: I think what this one is, So this one was
Speaker 1: so genius because it's like that one already exists. So
Speaker 1: this one is almost like in conversation with that one,
Speaker 1: and I think it adds and continues the cultural conversation. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think the ending of the Grete Gerwig one is beautiful. Um.
Speaker 1: And really really I think it had a purpose to it,
Speaker 1: you know, And it felt like I was talking about
Speaker 1: with clueless. I. I had another one that I just
Speaker 1: thought of, um, murder, the Sydney Lumett Murder on the
Speaker 1: Orient Express from the seventies she wrote, and I was like, why, Well,
Speaker 1: I just grew up like reading a lot of Agatha Christie.
Speaker 1: I was really into it, and so I watched all
Speaker 1: of these movies when I was a kid, and like,
Speaker 1: the New Murder in their express is very bad. But
Speaker 1: the Sydney Lament one is there's some kind of magic
Speaker 1: in that movie that just makes it so exciting, even
Speaker 1: if you know the end, which is a big twist
Speaker 1: at the end. Uh Man. I highly recommend it if
Speaker 1: you can find it. We just watched it recently. That's
Speaker 1: what made me think of it. Watch that seems also
Speaker 1: like a cozy like fall winter movie, very cozy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Murder that one training in the seventies. It has like
Speaker 1: so many stars in it. Wait, let me find it.
Speaker 1: It has Ingrid Bergman, Albert Finney, Jacqueline Bissette, Sean Connery,
Speaker 1: Anthony Perkins, Vanessa Redgrave. It's like, yeah, the new one
Speaker 1: in theaters and it was bad, so bad. So there's
Speaker 1: the thing I have to say about the New One.
Speaker 1: The billboards for it had a television color scheme, and
Speaker 1: that confused me. Say more about that when so so
Speaker 1: billboards I've noticed for television shows tend to have specific
Speaker 1: colors that show up more often and like more stylistic
Speaker 1: things that are like this is TV and it's like
Speaker 1: very like blue like think of the Euphoria ads, like
Speaker 1: that's very television and the Murder on the Orient Express
Speaker 1: ads looked like TV ads And I was very confused
Speaker 1: when I found out it was a movie because it
Speaker 1: just looked like a TV show based on the ads. Okay,
Speaker 1: that might be any thing that might mean be like
Speaker 1: my little rain Man moment where I'm like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: looks like TV. No, I get it. I don't Karama.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw one more adaptation out there that I think,
Speaker 1: like does that smart thing of like not trying to
Speaker 1: be literal with the text, but like have like a
Speaker 1: take on it. Um. It just came out so I
Speaker 1: actually saw it because I went to like a drive in.
Speaker 1: It came out in England. It's um a David Copperfield
Speaker 1: adaptation with dev Patel love so good. I loved it.
Speaker 1: So it was written by Armando Yannucci who didn't like
Speaker 1: and the thick of it. It's called The Personal History
Speaker 1: of David Copperfield and it's like a very true to
Speaker 1: the spirit of the book David Copperfield with like all
Speaker 1: just like British comedy actors. And I found it delightful,
Speaker 1: and I think Dev Patel is so winning. Uh. And
Speaker 1: at the ending they do, like if you've read the book,
Speaker 1: they do a thing that is like very smart, sort
Speaker 1: of like a little wom anyway, But overall it's just
Speaker 1: like it's a rump wrong. It's a wrong British wrong,
Speaker 1: British romp. See it if you can as my recommendation.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna share my screen for a
Speaker 1: second because I feel like I need to vindicate myself.
Speaker 1: All right, So look at the Riverdale advertisement. Ye a
Speaker 1: TV show show Tvori left, that's still more like Prestige, okay,
Speaker 1: Bates Motel. Also it's also TV. And now I want
Speaker 1: you to look at Murder on the Orient Express the
Speaker 1: feature films like TV you got it looks exactly like
Speaker 1: Bates Motel. See that screen chair was just three TV
Speaker 1: posters in a row. And then I didn't see a
Speaker 1: spread of data that was two those two Also, Karama,
Speaker 1: how did you think of those shows? Like you came
Speaker 1: up with three shows to look at it? I just
Speaker 1: know what billboards are supposed to look like for various
Speaker 1: kind of like how I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: Amazon show marketing looks like it's it's like selling insurance
Speaker 1: or something like, Yeah, I see that. I see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like what was that one about it? Like I do
Speaker 1: not get this. I mean, I'm just I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to find overbuttled it right now. What's the Amazon show?
Speaker 1: I thought that show with like Fred Armison and like
Speaker 1: maybe my Rudolph like holding hands, looked like it was
Speaker 1: like a life insurance like terrific. Um. I heard that. Great,
Speaker 1: It's really really good. Um. Every episode has a very
Speaker 1: dramatic twist at the end and M yeah, yeah, watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil and to thing about it
Speaker 1: for you, but it's worth watching. I like twists. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My favorite movie adaptation is a Giant by Edna Ferber
Speaker 1: made into This is a Criterion collection fun movie, A fun,
Speaker 1: good time movie with Rock Hudson and Elizabeth Taylor and
Speaker 1: James Dean, who is did you watch it as a babe?
Speaker 1: Who's method acting the way nobody else in the movie
Speaker 1: is because he is acting in the way that the
Speaker 1: other people in this movie will learn how to act
Speaker 1: ten years from now. So James Dean is dwelling on
Speaker 1: a lot of personal experience and Elizabeth Taylor and Rock
Speaker 1: Hudson are looking beautiful and saying their lines to each other. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: James is like throwing his body against a wall. So
Speaker 1: I've never read or seen this movie. What can you say,
Speaker 1: like at it's fascinating. It's about a woman marrying um,
Speaker 1: a Texan man, Rock Hudson, who owns acres and acres
Speaker 1: of land in Texas, And it's about the patriarchy failing
Speaker 1: and it being completely fine. Um if you wanted to
Speaker 1: do like Gone with the Wind, but with progressive politics.
Speaker 1: It is a three hour movie with beautiful costumes and
Speaker 1: like a lot of grasping of faces. Way I want
Speaker 1: to address Gone with the Wind with progressive politics. Is
Speaker 1: that possible? Yes? Uh? Yeah, because a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that Rock Hudson is
Speaker 1: racist at the beginning of the movie and less racist
Speaker 1: is there. No, No, it's ties to nineteen fifties, but no,
Speaker 1: there's a very heavy message on the movie that the
Speaker 1: best people are the Hispanic people working the ranch and uh,
Speaker 1: and they are being incredibly unfair to them. For like,
Speaker 1: that's good message for people to have. Yeah, And at
Speaker 1: the end of the whole fear is that Rock Hudson
Speaker 1: will lose like his masculine power and his ranch, and
Speaker 1: by the end of the movie, like one of his
Speaker 1: children has become a doctor for LORI income families, and
Speaker 1: his daughter has gone off to l A to be
Speaker 1: a movie star and she's a big weirdo and it's
Speaker 1: great and um and Rock Hudson has this half a
Speaker 1: Hispanic grandchild now and it's all okay and everybody's happy.
Speaker 1: He sells the ranch and they moved to a normal house.
Speaker 1: It's called Giant. It's called Giant. Yeah. I like that
Speaker 1: he sells the ranch and there I can't remember if
Speaker 1: they sell the ranch or not. I know that somebody
Speaker 1: like makes a big offer for the ranch and they're
Speaker 1: gonna sell it. And and yeah, all of these masculine
Speaker 1: fears that kind of define the movie and that Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Taylor fights against for most of the movie end up
Speaker 1: not really being things that were worth bearing. And it's
Speaker 1: nice and I love it so yeah good, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check it out. Don't expect it to be perfect by
Speaker 1: do look like a movie or TV? Oh, it looks
Speaker 1: very much like a movie. Karama as a as a kid,
Speaker 1: my like first sort of taste for adaptations was Royal
Speaker 1: Doll Movies, and I loved I didn't love Charlie and
Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factory, but I loved for me, Yeah, as
Speaker 1: a kid, this is one of my favorite books. And
Speaker 1: then the movie I was like, this is this is
Speaker 1: such a wonderful, Like it's so funny Danny DeVito and
Speaker 1: who is Marl Wilson is so funny, so funny, and
Speaker 1: also like Miss Honey, her beautiful cottage with all the flowers.
Speaker 1: Every time I like wear glasses, I try to think
Speaker 1: that I look like Miss Honey, and I absolutely do not.
Speaker 1: She's perfect. I also fantastic. Mr. Fox is a very good.
Speaker 1: Adamson adaptation is very lovely. I think those tend those
Speaker 1: like lend themselves to good adaptations because they lend themselves
Speaker 1: to strong filmmakers with strong visions, you know, and they're
Speaker 1: also so visual, like he had those illustrations by Quentin
Speaker 1: Blake that were always like really fun visual images that
Speaker 1: communicate well to screen. Yeah, that's a good one, Tian.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just thinking about youth. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about like what makes a good adaptation, Because Tian,
Speaker 1: you brought up Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which has
Speaker 1: a couple of adaptations. I would say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Speaker 1: as a film better than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,
Speaker 1: just because it feels like it's more leaning towards the
Speaker 1: book as as opposed to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,
Speaker 1: which leans more toward a Tim Burton aesthetic, which is
Speaker 1: except that he doesn't like black people. But you know
Speaker 1: that's he said black people don't fit his aesthetic. Just
Speaker 1: think anybody was unaware that. Yeah, But also yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it kind of seems like he doesn't have black
Speaker 1: people in it. I thought you were saying black people don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've just decided to like bring up some terrible
Speaker 1: beauty like Tim Burton movies and realizing, oh, yeah, no
Speaker 1: black black people, No, he doesn't. The thing that black
Speaker 1: people have noticed for a long time, Black people like
Speaker 1: myself loved him Burton, and he hast the palest white people.
Speaker 1: He does have the people people He's like, if I
Speaker 1: get white people, they're gonna be white, none of that
Speaker 1: han nonsense, literally painted white. But Charlie, the Charlie and
Speaker 1: the Chocolate factory. The book, initially Charlie was supposed to
Speaker 1: be black, which I think is also in the book.
Speaker 1: The Umpa Loompa's are black. I don't like that. I
Speaker 1: don't like they just start slaves. They're just who get
Speaker 1: paid in chocolate. I'm gonna also say Roal Doll had
Speaker 1: very bad politics and also he's not great on the record.
Speaker 1: Hated you. I don't think he liked anyone honestly, but
Speaker 1: he literally said vaccinated because he had a child die
Speaker 1: of measles. Well good, but also I did, but he
Speaker 1: fired you know, he fought in World War Two for
Speaker 1: the British, which like, okay, thank you, right side, But
Speaker 1: then he said, uh, he's like, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: hate Hitler as much as everyone, but you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta it's something with the Jews. If even a stinker
Speaker 1: like Hitler hates even a stinker like Hitler hates them,
Speaker 1: so it must be something about the logic. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the exact quote is the wrong logic though, Like,
Speaker 1: if Hitler is a stinker, then why are you like,
Speaker 1: but he's got he's got the right idea on this
Speaker 1: one group of people. All right, do you want the
Speaker 1: really bad. Quote. Yes, and and the past. There is
Speaker 1: a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a lack of generosity towards non Jews. I
Speaker 1: mean there's always a reason why Auntie, anything crops up anywhere.
Speaker 1: Even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them
Speaker 1: for no reason. God. I mean, if you and I
Speaker 1: were in a line moving towards what we knew our
Speaker 1: gas chambers, I'd rather have a go taking out one
Speaker 1: of the guards with me. But the Jews were submissive
Speaker 1: that holy okay, not great, not great? Okay, Sorry I
Speaker 1: brought him up. No. I love Rodel and I grew
Speaker 1: up like reading all of his books. And I also
Speaker 1: think that a theme on this podcast that we've had
Speaker 1: to reckon with is like books that we love by
Speaker 1: people who are not great, and like how because like
Speaker 1: I am Jewish and I read that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's awful, but it's not gonna undo like me being
Speaker 1: nine and like reading Matilda and loving it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like with J. K. Rowling, it's you know, you read
Speaker 1: those We read those books before we knew what her
Speaker 1: views are, and you know, it's hard to unloved those books.
Speaker 1: You know, you cannot support her, but it's it's so
Speaker 1: complicated when you are already a fan of something. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be real honestly, only like one Harry Potter movie
Speaker 1: is the third. It's the best one. It's the best one.
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's also I went on my first
Speaker 1: date on that movie. I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: say it was a date, but I say it was
Speaker 1: a date. Yeah, to date if you went to it's
Speaker 1: a date. Yeah, you know what you know a movie
Speaker 1: I went to see on my first date and it
Speaker 1: was uh, and I got my first kiss afterward. And
Speaker 1: it was also an adaptation uh, The Boy and the
Speaker 1: Stripe Pajamas. It was like in our town there's like
Speaker 1: an art theater and it really like only played like
Speaker 1: one or two movies at the time, and so like
Speaker 1: neither of us like really knew what we were going into.
Speaker 1: There wasn't like a wide variety of at home. The
Speaker 1: boy on the from the movie and you could not
Speaker 1: kiss after after were like from listeners at home who
Speaker 1: don't know what the Boy in the Stripe of Jamas
Speaker 1: is about. It's about the Holocaust, real Holocaust film I'm
Speaker 1: a Jewish person. That's not like still but he's still kissed.
Speaker 1: He's still kissed. He did. We bonded over, we went
Speaker 1: through it together, and that the other side was he
Speaker 1: also Jewish. Yeah, that makes it a little best. We
Speaker 1: didn't like make out during the movie. We watched the
Speaker 1: movie and then like sat with it for a while
Speaker 1: and then he kissed me afterward. My first day was
Speaker 1: also an adaptation Hunting of Heelhouse, which, oh, the black
Speaker 1: and white movie from the sixties, No correl, No, the
Speaker 1: one was Katherine say to Jones where she wears hie boots,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was the coolest thing I had
Speaker 1: ever looking up as a twelve year old. I didn't
Speaker 1: mean that you went and saw it the week it
Speaker 1: came out. You do seem like the type of teenager
Speaker 1: who would have gone to see like a revival. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody went to see revivals, right, Yeah? No, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: like in theaters. I remember seeing et in theaters when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Because No, I went in saw
Speaker 1: slum Dog Millionaire the weekend it came out, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's good ship, and that's the type of
Speaker 1: teenager I was. Dog Millionaire it's a fun movie. Guys. Great.
Speaker 1: I mean it was not a date. I was like ten,
Speaker 1: but it was. I thought it was a date. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it was for Romeo and Juliette the Leonardo Caaprio
Speaker 1: one Romeo plus Julian, which is also a great adaptation.
Speaker 1: I would, I would argue, but it was with uh
Speaker 1: this boy that at the time he was he was
Speaker 1: just like become every girl's girlfriend for like a week
Speaker 1: in school, but he was gay and none of us
Speaker 1: knew that except their parents. Yeah. We uh we we
Speaker 1: both watched it, and I feel like we both fell
Speaker 1: in love with Leonardo capital movie. But I and I
Speaker 1: was very upset that he didn't kissed me afterward. But
Speaker 1: I was also like that, so it's probably fine. Wait
Speaker 1: your parents let you go alone. I think they sat
Speaker 1: in the I think his parents sat in the back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty rach. My first day was in sick my sixth
Speaker 1: grade boyfriend. Uh. We went and saw Rugrats movie, which
Speaker 1: is so dorky and so very a baby movie. We
Speaker 1: it was a baby movie. I I think that Romeo
Speaker 1: plus Juliet gives a good I think, like what makes
Speaker 1: a good adaptation for me that like adds to the text,
Speaker 1: it's like a style element that like someone is bringing
Speaker 1: something to it that's not literal, Like if you guys
Speaker 1: saw the stop motion animated Coraline. Yes, like I heard.
Speaker 1: I love the book and the movie is really good
Speaker 1: because I feel like it adds a new like visual
Speaker 1: twist to it, like back to Romeo plus Juliet. Something
Speaker 1: that I really like about that adaptation is somewhere where
Speaker 1: I think it technically diverges from the text but actually
Speaker 1: adds a lot at the end. If you have not
Speaker 1: seen or read Romeo and Juliet, I'm going to ruin it,
Speaker 1: don't you know, don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a prolog. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a prologue, but uh, there's the moment where Romeo
Speaker 1: has taken his like little Poisony poison because he's like,
Speaker 1: oh sad, my girl's dead, and except you know, sixteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: oh my girl lififts dead and then juliett wakes up.
Speaker 1: In the text, she technically wakes up after he's already dead,
Speaker 1: but in this they have a moment where they're together
Speaker 1: before he's going to die. He takes it right as
Speaker 1: she's waking up, so she saw him take the poison.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh ship, and he's like, oh ship, and
Speaker 1: then they have that moment and then she uses her dagger,
Speaker 1: which in that stylistic, stylized version with Boss Lerman, whose
Speaker 1: movies I generally don't like because they make me physically nauseated,
Speaker 1: um like just the zooming and physically actually a lot
Speaker 1: of uses the gun which is called a dagger to
Speaker 1: kill herself. And I think that's a really interesting choice
Speaker 1: to have them have that moment together where they both
Speaker 1: know that he's going to die. Yeah, he dies and
Speaker 1: jokes and John Legozamo is great in that movie. And
Speaker 1: who was the actor that played um what, what's his name?
Speaker 1: I don't remember his name, but I knew exactly because
Speaker 1: he's great. He was in Lost right, Yes, yes, well
Speaker 1: I feel like that isn't You can't get any more
Speaker 1: classic than Shakespeare overall, For me, this has just been
Speaker 1: a delight. Thank you to the listeners who have joined
Speaker 1: us on this journey, and thank you truly to all
Speaker 1: of you who you know came on this adventure. It's
Speaker 1: been a highlight of my quarantine all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh so find us on social media, listen to things
Speaker 1: that we make in the future, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: till I can smoosh your faces in person, breathe right
Speaker 1: into your mouth. All right, everyone, stay safe out there,
Speaker 1: and uh, keep reading. Is that a good send off?
Speaker 1: All right? Keep reading so you can be smug when
Speaker 1: the adaptation comes out and you can say the book
Speaker 1: was better. Yes, that's perfect. That's our show for the week.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. I'm Danis Schwartz and
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