Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jagxam.
Speaker 2: I'm Ken, Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John oserre with
Speaker 2: me today. We're gonna have your Thanksgiving pre edition here.
Speaker 2: On Wednesdays, we get ready for the holiday and we
Speaker 2: get ready for the dag Wars to take on the
Speaker 2: Texans this weekend. We heard from Doug Peterson yesterday for
Speaker 2: the first time since the bye weekend. We did learn
Speaker 2: a couple of things, or at least some new information.
Speaker 2: So big thing number one is internal changes. Doug Peterson
Speaker 2: not overly forthcoming with what those changes are, but he
Speaker 2: did say there were changes made. Yeah, we're nothing that
Speaker 2: will share at this time, and I personally thank you
Speaker 2: just to be a little bit more clear on that,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's sort of I say that say
Speaker 2: this that the lot.
Speaker 3: Of these are in house, and then these are things
Speaker 3: that we focus on as a staff and as a team,
Speaker 3: and I just don't think they need to be in
Speaker 3: the open right now.
Speaker 2: Brian, we don't know what the exact changes are going
Speaker 2: to be. Maybe we'll figure them out on Sunday when
Speaker 2: we see the team go out there against the Texans,
Speaker 2: but it's a little too late for changes at this point,
Speaker 2: are you just happy they're doing something different.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what you're asking Kai, am I
Speaker 3: supposed to interpret what he?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 3: So big, Yeah, I mean he leaves it open for
Speaker 3: us to guess, and that's dangerous in and of itself.
Speaker 3: Or we're talking about who's calling the plays, whether they're
Speaker 3: eliminating the rotation on defense that has caused so much angst.
Speaker 3: It probably does make sense for him not to share
Speaker 3: all of it, but a little bit of it would
Speaker 3: make it a little bit easier to describe.
Speaker 4: Have no clue what they are. I neither its John.
Speaker 1: I have my thoughts, but I'm I'm not gonna share
Speaker 1: them at this time.
Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate you announcing that big thing number two.
Speaker 2: Practice makes perfect Trevor Lawrence. We haven't seen for a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Matt Jones as a starter for the
Speaker 2: last two weeks before the buye. He was at practice
Speaker 2: on Monday. John, we don't know still at this point.
Speaker 2: I think we'll have maybe a little bit better idea
Speaker 2: at the end of the week. But they purposely thegue
Speaker 2: usually with these kinds of things. But it was good
Speaker 2: to see Trevor back out there.
Speaker 5: John, Yeah, and I think it's gonna say. I have
Speaker 5: my thoughts on this too.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It feels Brian and Kai like.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a week where we don't find
Speaker 5: out much hard information about Trevor Lawrence and they take
Speaker 5: him into the weekend. I kind of feel like he'll play.
Speaker 5: I guess if he wasn't going to play, I think
Speaker 5: they would probably take the same approach as they did
Speaker 5: in that last game where he didn't play before the
Speaker 5: bye and as kind of Tea leaves, thank goodness we
Speaker 5: have this to discuss, because I'm not sure what else
Speaker 5: we would discuss, But.
Speaker 1: That's sort of how it feels.
Speaker 5: I think he'll play, and you know, frankly, Brian, as
Speaker 5: somebody who looks for storylines, let's cross our fingers in
Speaker 5: hope plays yeah, because it'll be interesting and it'll feel real.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it's going to feel if and
Speaker 5: when Trevor Lawrence is done for the season, if that
Speaker 5: even happens.
Speaker 3: So, you know, normally when they play the vague, you know,
Speaker 3: the game with quarterback. I mean, it's obviously to keep
Speaker 3: the other team guessing and make them spend some time
Speaker 3: preparing for Mac Jones or CJ. Bethern. But what would
Speaker 3: be a setback for him? I mean, he's not going
Speaker 3: to take a hit on the practice field this week.
Speaker 3: So if he looks good and feels good and where are.
Speaker 4: You on Friday?
Speaker 3: And even then you get the sense douggers are going
Speaker 3: to make any sort of a public proclamation on this thing.
Speaker 3: But he wasn't on the practice field the week of
Speaker 3: the Lions game. I would think that the fact that
Speaker 3: he's out there getting some first team reps, which is
Speaker 3: what we saw when practice was open, would indicate that
Speaker 3: he's going to play.
Speaker 2: Knock the rust off a little bit. Hopefully we see
Speaker 2: Trevor out there on Sunday. Our final big thing today
Speaker 2: can be Sunday showed out and they're taking on the Texans.
Speaker 2: It's a divisional battle. Texans big lost last week and
Speaker 2: just what we've been able to see, Brian, what would
Speaker 2: a win this week do for this team, especially right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're the class of the division. They're
Speaker 3: seven and five. Even though they haven't played well the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, they are still a team that
Speaker 3: the Jaguars have been chasing. Since well, since this season started,
Speaker 3: and they were holding them off when last season ended.
Speaker 3: So they're the class, They're the top of the food chain,
Speaker 3: and to go out there and beat them would indicate
Speaker 3: that maybe you're not as bad as you looked against
Speaker 3: the Lions, and that would be a big statement for
Speaker 3: this team to make.
Speaker 5: John Yeah, and I think they should realize that. In
Speaker 5: the last two meetings with these teams, the Jaguars won
Speaker 5: the one at the end of last season. It was
Speaker 5: really the last breath of life for this team because
Speaker 5: Cincinnati came next and all of a sudden, everything started
Speaker 5: falling apart.
Speaker 1: And they know.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say the Jaguars were the better
Speaker 5: team in Houston, but they sure had plenty of chances
Speaker 5: to put that game away and win. So the difference
Speaker 5: was isn't that much? I think the Jaguar I think
Speaker 5: it's the game the Jaguars can win. It won't save
Speaker 5: this season, but I guess it would if you assume
Speaker 5: that the Texans are going to be a team that
Speaker 5: the Jaguars as a franchise has to deal with going forward,
Speaker 5: beating them, holding serve at home, bidding them for the
Speaker 5: first time here since seventeen. It would matter in the
Speaker 5: sense that there wouldn't be a tilting toward the Texans
Speaker 5: feel right now, and maybe that would be a good
Speaker 5: thing going forward.
Speaker 3: And Kay, I think it's important to point out they're
Speaker 3: the best team remaining on the schedule, right, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Titans, the Jets, the Texans are.
Speaker 4: The best team.
Speaker 3: Love, So if you have it in your mind, let's
Speaker 3: go on a little winning streak here at the end.
Speaker 3: To start with the best team and to beat them
Speaker 3: would give you something to build on.
Speaker 1: Stay with us on Jagsam.
Speaker 2: We do not know what those internal changes are, but
Speaker 2: we're going to give you our best guess after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back into jacks Aam.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little this or that.
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson talking about internal changes on both sides of
Speaker 2: the football, but didn't want to elaborate any more than that,
Speaker 2: but we're going to do our best to guess as
Speaker 2: to what those might be. We'll start with some defensive
Speaker 2: changes and I just picked two that I would like
Speaker 2: to see, and I'll want your guys to point of view.
Speaker 2: If we could get Ventrel Miller's a starter and more snaps,
Speaker 2: or Eric Armstead only starting as defensive tackle, which one
Speaker 2: would you.
Speaker 1: Like to see.
Speaker 4: Armstead is a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: He's been a non factor to my site as a
Speaker 3: defensive end, you know what, rushing from that wide nine.
Speaker 3: But in the middle, he is tall, he's long, he
Speaker 3: is the kind of guy with his arms stretched, is
Speaker 3: in the field of view of the quarterback. I would
Speaker 3: love to see him back where he had his most
Speaker 3: success in San Francisco, which is lined up in the
Speaker 3: three technique.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you, except I don't know. You know,
Speaker 5: it's hard for Trayvon and Josh to play every snap
Speaker 5: out there, and I don't know who else to put
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 1: But I would take that.
Speaker 5: With Armstead playing in the middle absolutely. At the same time,
Speaker 5: I want to see Vntrel in there, Like I'd like
Speaker 5: to see a game where Ventrel plays most snaps every snap.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen, because you know, I could take
Speaker 5: Devin Boy completely off the field, but gearing more toward
Speaker 5: both I would like to see.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see some more of Ventral in there
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Looking at the offensive side of the football, Press Taylor
Speaker 2: and Doug Peterson, we've been talking about play calling for
Speaker 2: what seemingly as months, and while we both think, I
Speaker 2: think we all think that they call pretty similar games.
Speaker 2: That may be one of the changes that we've been
Speaker 2: talking about. Because Doug didn't answer it before the the
Speaker 2: bye week, and now he's saying there's changes.
Speaker 3: Well, he has an answered it all season, right, I
Speaker 3: mean he has left it of two so that people
Speaker 3: could guess. And when I'm at a speaking engagement or
Speaker 3: in line of publics and someone starts railing about Press
Speaker 3: Taylor and his play calling, extinction and they should fire him,
Speaker 3: like are.
Speaker 4: You sure he's calling them?
Speaker 3: I mean, Doug could have clearly said I'm calling the
Speaker 3: place or Press is calling the place, but he didn't
Speaker 3: want to do that. Again, he's an old school guy.
Speaker 3: He likes to leave people guessing his opponent. Also, you
Speaker 3: know John there of the same mind. They've worked so
Speaker 3: closely together through the years. I don't know that it
Speaker 3: matters which one calls the place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've thought this since day one, that it's been
Speaker 5: an overblown issue. It's been a hot point issue the
Speaker 5: frankly Doug has created by leaving it be an issue.
Speaker 5: I don't think he thinks it's a big deal. I
Speaker 5: don't think it's a big deal with fans think it's
Speaker 5: a big deal. Who calls play again, I think you're
Speaker 5: getting mostly the same result no matter who calls him
Speaker 5: flip a coin.
Speaker 3: He's been adamant about it going back to his days
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Reportedly, that's what cost him the head coaching
Speaker 3: job when he was with the Eagles was that he
Speaker 3: wouldn't make that change. And of course he stood up
Speaker 3: here right after the Lions game and wouldn't let people
Speaker 3: point fingers as coaches, he said, point him at me.
Speaker 3: So I don't think you'll ever know until one or
Speaker 3: both of them are doing something somewhere else who was calling.
Speaker 2: The placer get some insight after the fact.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe all.
Speaker 2: Right, coming up after the break, we're gonna tell you
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Speaker 2: So things are not where we expected them to be
Speaker 2: at this time year, but we're still thankful because we
Speaker 2: get to cover football every single day and we found
Speaker 2: a couple of things to be thankful for. I think
Speaker 2: that's fair enough. But relative to football, yes, relative to football,
Speaker 2: relative to this team, Brian, I think the stadium deal
Speaker 2: has to be right up there this year.
Speaker 3: Well, it is for me because for so many years
Speaker 3: it was a question mark if the Jaguars would be
Speaker 3: in this market long term. There was a time in
Speaker 3: two thousand and two where the stadium was empty and
Speaker 3: they were giving away tickets, and you always look to
Speaker 3: the future and what would cement this team in this
Speaker 3: town long term championships do that they don't have one
Speaker 3: of those yet, But to have a stadium like the
Speaker 3: one that they're calling the Stadium of the future to
Speaker 3: look forward to and a long term, thirty year lease
Speaker 3: means that you know, by the time we get to
Speaker 3: the end of at least the Jaguars should have a
Speaker 3: couple of championships and a tradition and a couple of generations.
Speaker 3: I think the stadium represents the long term future of
Speaker 3: the Jaguars and Jacksonville married together. So I'm personally very
Speaker 3: thankful having been here since the beginning for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah I am as well.
Speaker 5: I mean it's as somebody who I was around when
Speaker 5: or say landed the helicopter in the seventies, nobody of
Speaker 5: mine down the street had a Jacksonville Colt shirt all
Speaker 5: that stuff.
Speaker 1: So to have that be solidified.
Speaker 5: Long after we're gone, Brian is it's a very cool thing,
Speaker 5: and in the big picture matters more than the immediate.
Speaker 5: We just need to get the immediate where it's more
Speaker 5: fun than it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you say the immediate would be really helpful right now,
Speaker 3: but when you when you pull out and think about
Speaker 3: your kids, kids, kids being able to be Draguars fans
Speaker 3: like the people in Wisconsin are with Green Bay, that's meaningful.
Speaker 2: I think one of the bright spots I always like
Speaker 2: to point out is Brian Thomas Junior because I didn't
Speaker 2: expect it. John we I think we were both on
Speaker 2: the same page of let's get a corner, maybe someone
Speaker 2: on defense. But Brian Thomas Junior is one of the
Speaker 2: brightest spots we've had this ye.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brian and I both thought they might go offensive line.
Speaker 5: I didn't know which direction they would go. Anybody who
Speaker 5: reads me for the long term knows I expect very
Speaker 5: little out of rookies usually, and Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 1: Has far exceeded my expectation.
Speaker 5: I think what's the most exciting is you can see
Speaker 5: what he is, you can see what he's gonna be.
Speaker 5: And you know, if usually rookies are operating at about
Speaker 5: forty percent of what they're going to become. When this
Speaker 5: kid gets everything, meaning NFL level professionalism, when the game
Speaker 5: slows down for him, he's got a chance to be
Speaker 5: top five and you know who knows how good he
Speaker 5: can be.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting that, Bryan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I mean the unanswered prayers, right. I wanted
Speaker 3: them to take offensive tackle. I really felt like in
Speaker 3: this draft high which was so loaded with great on
Speaker 3: young offensive tackles, and with Cam on his way out
Speaker 3: and Walker Little on the last.
Speaker 4: Year of his deal, I want him take a tackle.
Speaker 3: And then this kid comes through in his revelation and
Speaker 3: I'll just I'll use Jimmy Smith's phrase to me, wow,
Speaker 3: standing on the sidelines of that Colts game. Before complementing
Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor, he said, Wow, that kid is
Speaker 3: really good. And Jimmy does throw around a lot of
Speaker 3: compliments to other wide receivers, so that one really sticks
Speaker 3: in my head. He is special. He will be that
Speaker 3: guy who helps the quarterback with his game.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pieces they need to add, but
Speaker 3: when you've got the quarterback and the wide receiver, mixing
Speaker 3: the running back and the tight end, you've got some things.
Speaker 3: But you got to have the alpha receiver. He's the
Speaker 3: first alpha that we've had in Jacksonville since two thousand
Speaker 3: and five.
Speaker 4: Good when Jimmy was playing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to see it.
Speaker 2: Mine is a little bit. I have a two parter
Speaker 2: because mine originally was I'm thankful we're not playing on
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving because I thought we were gonna play this year.
Speaker 2: That's the only franchise that hasn't played on Thanksgiving that
Speaker 2: we're playing Detroit. Maybe we'll play that game. That wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been very fun to see that Detroit game play
Speaker 2: out this week, and also to have the break be
Speaker 2: home with our families and be able to celebrate the holiday.
Speaker 1: So I am thankful for that.
Speaker 2: But then also breaking news today, Tyler Shatley is back,
Speaker 2: and selfishly he is one of my favorite players that
Speaker 2: I've ever covered. We're all big fans of him here
Speaker 2: on the couch. So Tyler Shatley back in the house
Speaker 2: on a practice squad makes me happy.
Speaker 4: We look for Tyler and has a legitimate beard once again. Yes, man,
Speaker 4: he takes it very, very seriously. I'm grateful for him
Speaker 4: to be back to you.
Speaker 3: He came here in twenty fourteen as an untrafted rookie
Speaker 3: and stayed all those years. He's such a sage voice
Speaker 3: in the locker room. Even though he wasn't a starter
Speaker 3: or a star, he was a guy that you could
Speaker 3: always go to for a little bit of perspective. He's
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 4: A great guy. Happy Thanksgiving, Glad to have.
Speaker 1: You back to Yeah, no doubt and his eleventh season.
Speaker 2: So nice to have an elder Jaguar statesman in the
Speaker 2: house again once again. All right, say with us, We'll
Speaker 2: tell you what's coming up the rest of the week
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Speaker 2: this Sunday's game against the Texans. Also going to be
Speaker 2: My Cause, My Cleats game, which is pretty cool because
Speaker 2: each player gets to pick a cause or charity that's
Speaker 2: really important to them and get to wear that on
Speaker 2: their cleats, which normally they're very particular about what you
Speaker 2: get to wear for your uniform. I believe those are
Speaker 2: Ross Matti six is going to be representing the j Fund,
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence doing Wilson's Children's Hospital, and then my personal
Speaker 2: favorite cleats I don't know if we have yes, Evan
Speaker 2: Ingram is doing this special Education School of Florida and
Speaker 2: he loves that. And then this is also coach Shoey
Speaker 2: and some of the other coaches are going to be
Speaker 2: representing triple negative breast cancer research to honor Showey's wife
Speaker 2: who just finished treatment in October, so happy for that.
Speaker 2: Lots of great causes.
Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 2: We'll have a bunch of stuff posted throughout the week
Speaker 2: about different players and what causes they're representing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the league is so percipity about uniform and socc length.
Speaker 3: I mean, they have people with clipboards that walk around
Speaker 3: on the sidelines before a game and you know, make
Speaker 3: sure that guys aren't violating that. So it was really
Speaker 3: nice to see when they let up for this a
Speaker 3: few years ago and it was two or three players,
Speaker 3: and now I think over the course of season, every
Speaker 3: player the league gets to do this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's nice to just kind of throw that
Speaker 2: all away for a week. So very very fortunate, and
Speaker 2: hopefully you guys have some good Thanksgiving plans.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm cooking. I'd love to cook and I'm excited
Speaker 4: to do it as.
Speaker 1: My sister's in town, so that'll be great.
Speaker 2: We love it and you I'll probably take the dog
Speaker 2: to the beach and then I'll find a turkey somewhere,
Speaker 2: as I always do. We appreciate you guys joining us.
Speaker 2: We are thankful for you guys joining us. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on Monday to talk about that Texans game. Enjoy
Speaker 2: the weekend, Enjoy your holiday.