Speaker 1: The Boys. No, no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it like that. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it like that. Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Busting with the Boys. I am your host, Will Compton,
Speaker 1: the boy tail Lawan. He's out in Canada. We'll get
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Speaker 1: because of all the wallfires going on. Also, my wife
Speaker 1: is not back yet from California. I'm sitting here, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Flag got canceled on Sunday, Monday. I think she's getting
Speaker 1: the fly out now. She's gonna land it like one
Speaker 1: in the morning tonight. But she isn't back yet from California.
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Speaker 1: one thing to note, we've gotten a lot of There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of talk, been at a lot of
Speaker 1: things circulating on the internet due to the Christ's Stefano
Speaker 1: interview last week. As far as adulton Jerseys, I want
Speaker 1: to say we are a pro Jersey At least fifty
Speaker 1: percent of us is a pro Jersey podcast.
Speaker 3: I am all about more than yeah I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the two you're just putting the two hosts
Speaker 1: down the middle. I know Taylor has had some takes
Speaker 1: before and he's got a stance on this. It slipped
Speaker 1: in that Christ to Stefano interview. He's like, we have
Speaker 1: a thing. And when I was watching that clip the
Speaker 1: other day, I'm thinking, oh fuck, I got looped into
Speaker 1: this thing, Like that's not that's not how I that's
Speaker 1: not how I operate with the fans. I'm all about
Speaker 1: the verbal abuse that happens everywhere. I'm all about the venting.
Speaker 1: I'm all about yelling at the TV. I'm all about
Speaker 1: living through your favorite team, your favorite teams and favorite players.
Speaker 1: I'm also about wearing their jerseys. And now it makes
Speaker 1: me want to start buying jerseys up. All right, we
Speaker 1: gotta start, you know what I mean, We got to
Speaker 1: get It almost makes you want to get involved in
Speaker 1: the culture more because there is no football without the fans.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that as a political take either, Like
Speaker 1: I love all of the fucking arguing, the banter, the chat,
Speaker 1: the group chats, the talking shit it.
Speaker 2: I love it all, dude, I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: So I just want to make that clear the Stefano
Speaker 1: interview by thinking, well, why did you say anything on
Speaker 1: the Stepano interview? That was our second interview that day.
Speaker 1: We were traveling all like we were traveling all week long.
Speaker 1: As a little that interview was like a little like,
Speaker 1: you know, it got long winded, it got a little
Speaker 1: At that point, you're kind of just you're kind of
Speaker 1: sitting there, You're glad Chris is doing all the talk,
Speaker 1: and you're you're glad he's funny and keeping you entertained
Speaker 1: and everything like that, or you're just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: back and letting it happen. And that was not a hill,
Speaker 1: Like we've had that conversation before. I'm busting with the
Speaker 1: boys about the Jerseys and everything else. That wasn't the
Speaker 1: timing where it was like, okay, we need to intervene
Speaker 1: here and and step in, however, all to say what
Speaker 1: percentage eighty five percent? Eighty five percent pro Jersey podcast
Speaker 1: over here? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe more, maybe more.
Speaker 2: Maybe more, maybe more.
Speaker 1: I know our fan base makes it like we're ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent pro Jersey on this podcast. I hate that
Speaker 1: the big Guy can't be here because I'm sure he
Speaker 1: would interject and have a and have a hopefully a
Speaker 1: newsstance as well. But you kind of hate talking without
Speaker 1: the big guy here. So we could go back and
Speaker 1: forth about it. However, I needed to make this fucking
Speaker 1: clear that we are your boy.
Speaker 2: We rocked the Jerseys. We rocked the Jerseys.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be also see the club got three point
Speaker 3: three million views.
Speaker 2: I know that's what made me think, like, oh man, this.
Speaker 3: Is five hundred likes on Twitter, which he got a
Speaker 3: lot of hate.
Speaker 2: A lot of hate rightfully, so though, yeah, we do love.
Speaker 3: I even had a tweet if they kind of popped
Speaker 3: on me right now.
Speaker 2: About the hell anybody who has to take walking out?
Speaker 3: And I was saying it, not directing the Taylor or Chris.
Speaker 3: I just like get irt pretty much when Taylor says
Speaker 3: these things, he.
Speaker 1: Said it before, like it's been a conversation before on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 3: Even when Tennessee beat Alabama, he was like tweeting at me,
Speaker 3: like this guy thinks he played and like he thinks
Speaker 3: he actually.
Speaker 4: Won the game.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know the fans are just as crucial
Speaker 3: to the sport as the players.
Speaker 2: Obviously that with.
Speaker 3: A grain of sault there, but yeah, man, it's like
Speaker 3: chill and can't even buy fucking jerseys, Like, how are
Speaker 3: they gonna purchase a jersey?
Speaker 2: You don't have the purchasing power. They ain't got the
Speaker 2: allest dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the adult's got to be the consumer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, people are like, oh, we'll see whya. He's covering
Speaker 1: his ass doing damage control and everything like that. It
Speaker 1: was more so like you know, when you get lumped
Speaker 1: in based on somebody else saying something, you gotta you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta stand up to speak for yourself before you
Speaker 1: get lumped into this.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're guilty, but I'm guilty by association. Who knows how
Speaker 1: much damage that clip's done everywhere on all the platforms.
Speaker 1: I just had to I just had to get out
Speaker 1: there on Twitter and be like, Hey, I need to
Speaker 1: clear my name. Your boy is a pro. I'm all ball,
Speaker 1: I'm all fandom, I'm all all of it, dude. I've
Speaker 1: been obsessed with it since a wee little pup. Good news,
Speaker 1: this intro will be fast today. Derwin James sits with us.
Speaker 1: Derwin is fucking all time. If you don't know who
Speaker 1: the guy is, you should know one of the best
Speaker 1: safeties in the game. Was voted the number thirty player
Speaker 1: overall in the NFL Top one hundred players.
Speaker 2: Uh he was. We asked him about that.
Speaker 1: We asked him about being ranked the best safety in
Speaker 1: the NFL amongst the peers. Battling injuries. I know he
Speaker 1: he tore his knee right, He had a bad injury
Speaker 1: that he had to bounce back from you. And you
Speaker 1: could just tell this guy he's a very he's a
Speaker 1: very focused player. He's very intentional with the way he
Speaker 1: moves and everything else, and you're gonna really like hearing
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Speaker 2: He doesn't do a whole lot of interviews. He's not
Speaker 2: out there a lot.
Speaker 1: Their PR person was saying like, Oh, it was really
Speaker 1: cool how much he he was opening up and being
Speaker 1: himself and everything else.
Speaker 2: But we asked him about that.
Speaker 1: We asked him about those things, his defining play of
Speaker 1: his career being a box safety versus coverage safety, his
Speaker 1: worst losses. We obviously had to dive into the Walker
Speaker 1: last year when the Jaguars came back down what was it,
Speaker 1: twenty seven to nothing? Four nothing? Go to the main thing.
Speaker 1: And then also his growth as a leader. I know
Speaker 1: he's you can tell when you ask about that, his
Speaker 1: eyes kind of like light up and you understand that
Speaker 1: he was really again, real intentional about how he was
Speaker 1: moving throughout that progress and making that growth and development
Speaker 1: as the leader and everything else and being the position
Speaker 1: he's in.
Speaker 2: And you can tell he loves playing, uh.
Speaker 1: For the Chargers, you can just tell, like sitting with
Speaker 1: all those guys, you can tell that these guys want
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Speaker 2: It's an awesome interview.
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Speaker 3: It's like you almost watch a video and then immediately
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Speaker 1: Instagram's fun too, but not not like fucking yeah, not
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Speaker 2: Big hugs, tiny kisses.
Speaker 4: How you feel like your body, like your mentally, like
Speaker 4: how you you feel different in a different space, being
Speaker 4: lighter fifty pounds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh like mentally I look in the mirror and
Speaker 5: I don't hate what I see. That's that's mentally better.
Speaker 5: But like from like a body standpoint, like besides my knee,
Speaker 5: like everything feels good. Yeah, like my my necker is
Speaker 5: a little bit, but like get it up the day,
Speaker 5: like you feel all that weight off your body.
Speaker 6: It's it's tough.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to experience my first fall, like legitly,
Speaker 5: like even right now August like flying out somewhere, it's
Speaker 5: just crazy to me.
Speaker 6: Then October is gonna hit.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be able to go do folloween with my
Speaker 5: kids and rip around and not have to worry about
Speaker 5: who I'm playing or what does this guy's move.
Speaker 6: Do or anything like that. It's just cool.
Speaker 2: It's cool, real definitely, when you're in it, you're just
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: But when you get to where like your weekends and
Speaker 1: everything else is free and you're not, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when the Boys would lose, you know, you got to
Speaker 1: go on Monday and you're like, fuck, well, you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's the vibe going to be like today? And
Speaker 1: when all that performance based driven the industry that we're
Speaker 1: in every day, it's done and over with. You're kind
Speaker 1: of like, fuck, I mean, wait tomorrow, go get go
Speaker 1: get something, Go get something of the coffee shop, live
Speaker 1: live awesome.
Speaker 5: But even when you go through injuries, like like I'm
Speaker 5: gonna ask you about your injuries in the beginning, like
Speaker 5: you make a Pro Bowl your rookie year and two
Speaker 5: years in a row, like get injured in camp, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: And that had to be like especially that early getting
Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl being like, oh, I'm the man already
Speaker 5: in the NFL, like a dream has been made. And
Speaker 5: then you go into that like that second time getting
Speaker 5: hurt in camp, you had to be down in something
Speaker 5: like fuck.
Speaker 4: But it definitely was humbling experience. The first time I
Speaker 4: went down, it was kind of like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: part of the game, you know, it comes with it.
Speaker 4: But then the second time, when you know a week
Speaker 4: away from this and that one kind of hit me
Speaker 4: a little deeper. It was a little you know, and
Speaker 4: then I realized I wouldn't be returning for the season again,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, man, like what do I
Speaker 4: have to do? Like what am I doing wrong? I
Speaker 4: just go to question and stuff. But after all that, man,
Speaker 4: I locked in and you know, like you said, get
Speaker 4: back to the basis, get back what you used to,
Speaker 4: getting routine and get ready to go.
Speaker 1: Man, how is it like with the with the Chargers
Speaker 1: that we were kind of talking a little bit before
Speaker 1: and how they're kind of like there's more use than
Speaker 1: everything else. So it seems like they take care of
Speaker 1: you guys during training camp. Yeah, they kind of some
Speaker 1: of the old school mentality ways that are out there.
Speaker 4: We definitely know our stand up. Man. We work hard
Speaker 4: here and we get it in and like I said,
Speaker 4: we compete at a high level. But we also got
Speaker 4: coaches that are young and they understand the bodies and
Speaker 4: you know, getting the guys to the games, and they
Speaker 4: understand how to take care of us here and they
Speaker 4: do a great job of doing that. You know, I
Speaker 4: feel like we're in a good space for that.
Speaker 5: He's extremely polished, You're extremely so you can tell that
Speaker 5: you go to podiums every day after games and have
Speaker 5: to talk to everybody. You know what to say and
Speaker 5: what not to say. No, man, you're professional. Man, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna say I say, but no, I see you in mine.
Speaker 5: But I know that I know how the tough hard dude,
Speaker 5: because you like when you're in it and you're like
Speaker 5: all right, you go up to the podium. You obviously
Speaker 5: have somebody to be like okay, like yah, don't talk
Speaker 5: about this. You don't want to give them anything. I'm
Speaker 5: sure you guys have like media rules and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and it is you are very well spoken from that
Speaker 5: standpoint for sure.
Speaker 2: How uh ranked thirty top one hundred.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Minka Fitzpatrick was the only safety ranked ahead of you.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about where your ranking was in
Speaker 1: the top one hundred.
Speaker 4: I just got to get out there and work, man.
Speaker 4: I can't start off this argument. I gotta get out
Speaker 4: there and work, man. I just got to work a
Speaker 4: little harder and make more play. Like when you see
Speaker 4: thirty or you like hell yeah, no, I'm like hell no.
Speaker 4: Like for me, I'm like, no, I'm better than that.
Speaker 4: I know it's you know what I mean? I know
Speaker 4: I should be top ten, So I know I'm better
Speaker 4: than you.
Speaker 1: Felt a little disrespected for sure, for sure, and that
Speaker 1: you're not the number one safety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: You are a beast. You are.
Speaker 6: You are a fucking stuff.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 6: What's a relationship like with making.
Speaker 4: We got a great relationship. You know, we always been
Speaker 4: competing with each other, you know, coming out twenty fifteen,
Speaker 4: it was in the same high school class, and then
Speaker 4: in college you know, of course were first round picks,
Speaker 4: and so we always been competing in our careers. You know,
Speaker 4: we had a great relationship. We talked at the Pro
Speaker 4: Bowls and you know, the different stuff.
Speaker 6: But it's a good relationship with the Pro Bowls. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that plural.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you speaking of Pro bowldude, do you ever feel
Speaker 5: like do you like the fact that there's not a
Speaker 5: game anymore?
Speaker 6: Or do you wish it went back to a game?
Speaker 4: No. I kind of liked the format that had last year.
Speaker 4: It was big five bodies. I feel like it was
Speaker 4: it was solid. I mean, we had more fun with it.
Speaker 4: You know. I feel like you've been in the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4: I've been with you a couple of one of two times,
Speaker 4: but I was like, you don't really know what the
Speaker 4: tempo was. You don't want to kind of hit the
Speaker 4: guy too hard.
Speaker 6: You know, so your first time you don't really know
Speaker 6: what to do.
Speaker 4: Kind of you feel what I mean. So it's like
Speaker 4: it's better that, you know, we could still have fun
Speaker 4: and then to give the fans what they want to see.
Speaker 2: Too in the game.
Speaker 1: If you had the opportunity to tee off on a
Speaker 1: punter of the way Sean Taylor did in the Pro Bowl, would.
Speaker 4: You definitely for sure you're lying? For sure?
Speaker 5: I would, I would, I would come on that putter
Speaker 5: got so mad too?
Speaker 6: Who was that part?
Speaker 4: That was? Bryan still talking about this played twenty years later?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Ten years later?
Speaker 6: So that is just crazy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So you want something like that, gotta get.
Speaker 5: What do you think is like the most defining like
Speaker 5: play of your career so far that people might be
Speaker 5: talking about ten.
Speaker 4: Years now, probably when I sawed Kessie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's my head too?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? So but I got to just make some
Speaker 4: more players, keep making play, keep getting better.
Speaker 6: Man, it's Kelsey do that. Does he talk a lot
Speaker 6: of shit?
Speaker 4: No? I don't really talk trash. Well, probably other people
Speaker 4: really talk trash.
Speaker 2: I'm talking the most trash that you've come across.
Speaker 4: On the most trash. Uh, I don't even I don't
Speaker 4: really get people that talk trash really like that like
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: Like, there's never been anybody like, Man, what is this
Speaker 2: dude talking.
Speaker 6: Shit?
Speaker 4: You was talking trash and London was the fucking a Nah,
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember broh Yeah, when we played y'all,
Speaker 4: he probably was the last person that was talking trash
Speaker 4: to us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we with the equipment guys earlier and they were
Speaker 5: bringing that up. How I was talking the whole time?
Speaker 4: Why are you talking so crazy to the whole team?
Speaker 4: Remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do. They reminded me of because I probably want
Speaker 5: to remember too much. I do talk a lot of
Speaker 5: ship or did, and fucking yeah, I like that. Though
Speaker 5: you don't talk.
Speaker 4: Ship, i'd be talking trash. But you know what I
Speaker 4: mean that energy that So I'm.
Speaker 5: You feel you kind of view that as a like
Speaker 5: respect that huh, Like when you talk trash and keep
Speaker 5: people kind of just walk away.
Speaker 6: Really him, it's got to be a hell of respect. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Respect.
Speaker 2: What kind of badge of honor do you like? More
Speaker 2: of being known? Uh for locking somebody up or being
Speaker 2: a heavy hitter.
Speaker 4: I feel like heavy hitter because I'm a big person
Speaker 4: on style of play, standing the tone, and I feel
Speaker 4: like you can cover somebody with I don't really set
Speaker 4: no tone versus if you go hit somebody. Now you
Speaker 4: got tim O guys ready to go do the same thing.
Speaker 4: So you know, I say, definitely hit it.
Speaker 5: Do the safety that fucking hits I know, Buddha bakerm Chancellor.
Speaker 6: It was type of dudes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guys right there.
Speaker 6: Man was Campstone the league when you got in, did.
Speaker 4: You play him? I didn't get to play with Cam.
Speaker 4: It was one year before I got in.
Speaker 5: Man, when we played them, I remember walking past him
Speaker 5: being like this was a fucking safety. He was so big, massive, massive,
Speaker 5: dark visorn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got him out there. Ed Ree, Bobby Wagner,
Speaker 1: kJ All Boom.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 6: You just dream about being part of defenses like that,
Speaker 6: don't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean we were in Nebraska black shirts.
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Speaker 6: Do you think do you think Florida State could have
Speaker 6: beat Nebraska?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they fucking couldn't have What years were you
Speaker 1: at Florida State from fifteen?
Speaker 2: What was your records out there?
Speaker 4: My first season I think we lost was nine to two,
Speaker 4: and then all right, second season we was I mean
Speaker 4: my last year was our worst year. I think we
Speaker 4: lost like four games, four or five games, but you
Speaker 4: know it's kind of on the decline. Then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel you you were too young to be
Speaker 5: with Jameis Winston, right, Yeah, one year before were like
Speaker 5: there had to be war stories the world, good stories those.
Speaker 4: No, man, come on, y'all not doing that. You're trying
Speaker 4: to trying to do my school like that. Come on, man,
Speaker 4: that man won't do nothing.
Speaker 6: Like that without asking.
Speaker 5: He borrowed the man, Come on, I don't do He
Speaker 5: is the most unique personality in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's no one like James in
Speaker 4: the NFL. He got his own personality. He don't care
Speaker 4: when nobody thinks of them. No, he's gonna be who
Speaker 4: he is.
Speaker 5: And yeah, hypothetically, if you're getting ready for a game
Speaker 5: and someone gets in the middle and they do a
Speaker 5: W with their hand, they start eating.
Speaker 6: Their fingers, are you real that gets you fired the
Speaker 6: funk up?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, he's one of my guys. Man, whatever he do,
Speaker 4: like you feel, I'm ready to go through a wall
Speaker 4: for for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a part too. I think there's an
Speaker 2: element you feel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're like you're going ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, if you know, you
Speaker 1: know who he is unique in that nature to where it's.
Speaker 4: Like you already know who he is, you know, like
Speaker 4: me even more.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like you're gonna laughs to be hell, yeah.
Speaker 4: Let's go like kind of support them.
Speaker 6: Them on to do some more stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Man, I want who was gonna come
Speaker 2: up with next week? James, get out there, give us man.
Speaker 6: Come on, you gotta tell hype up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jameis doesn't know how funny he is, for sure,
Speaker 5: he's got to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Those dudes that are just like man, the crab light
Speaker 5: thing I thought was so funny. I don't really even
Speaker 5: know what even came with that. Nothing came of that, right,
Speaker 5: It was just like one of the little stories that
Speaker 5: you hear. It was like kind of like local news
Speaker 5: crab legs and that was it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. What's it gonna take for the Chargers
Speaker 1: to get over the hump? You guys are I always
Speaker 1: feels like you guys get.
Speaker 4: Close staying healthy. Man, all our guys been out there
Speaker 4: when it's time to play. You know, I feel like
Speaker 4: when you got your main players out there who can
Speaker 4: make plays, that's what this league about, bro, having your
Speaker 4: guys out there healthy, and I feel like we just
Speaker 4: need to do that. Be good.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the locker room's mentality on a gentleman
Speaker 1: named Emmanuel Acho.
Speaker 4: What's the vibe on them? Yeah? I mean everybody know
Speaker 4: who he is, with all the with all the Herbert
Speaker 4: Herbert to be talking ship about o quarterback. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: that smoke with every boy. We don't like that. But
Speaker 4: you know, we just got to fix the narrative out there.
Speaker 4: We got we have to get out there and win
Speaker 4: some games. And you know that a change for sure. Man,
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Oto.
Speaker 2: Because is talking crazy.
Speaker 5: That's your favorite guy talking about Yeah, that's your favorite
Speaker 5: guy in media.
Speaker 4: Oh that's the one that was talking about too and better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but y'all give y'all give.
Speaker 2: You definitely can't you definitely came back?
Speaker 4: Come on, I stopped that many Yeah, I start that,
Speaker 4: don't do that.
Speaker 6: What was the vibe like during that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: That wild Card game last year.
Speaker 4: Man, it was devastating that ship. It didn't feel good. Man.
Speaker 4: It was definitely like a bad taste in our mouth.
Speaker 4: And like I say, ninety our team felt that. So
Speaker 4: we kind of, you know, we get a chance this
Speaker 4: year to kind of fix that. I feel like it
Speaker 4: was definitely good motivation going to this year.
Speaker 1: Is that like one of the worst, one of your
Speaker 1: worst feelings you had in your career?
Speaker 4: Yeah, on any level, rather Pop one and everything, you know,
Speaker 4: getting five turnovers and not winning in the game, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 5: Y'alls just start there like you should have absolutely won
Speaker 5: that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just tough. Just you know, you can't
Speaker 4: predict how the games come. You know, you always try
Speaker 4: to win, to win the turnover battle and win the
Speaker 4: little battles that you need to win. But it was
Speaker 4: just devastating.
Speaker 1: Who's a Who's the quarterback you you most look forward
Speaker 1: to playing Patrick Mahomes? Of course Mahomes. Yeah, what opportunities
Speaker 1: for interceptions? Cause I mean, you make a player on him,
Speaker 1: is it? He?
Speaker 5: He?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? He the guy I like competition,
Speaker 4: but I like competition. Herbert or Mahomes. Herbert easily easy easily.
Speaker 5: Mahomes is a Hall of Famer right now. I don't
Speaker 5: think Herberts are stuck. Don't get me wrong. I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to throw sh it at him. I'm just trying
Speaker 5: to yell.
Speaker 4: Herbert or Herbert bro I don't matter who Rivers see,
Speaker 4: you make it tough. I like Phil was my guy Rivers.
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's tough. That's a tough different different quarterback.
Speaker 2: Being say, like being a defensive guy. What was it
Speaker 2: like playing with somebody like Phil?
Speaker 4: Pheel was like everything. He was like the coach, the player,
Speaker 4: the quarterback. I mean, so he kind of did everything.
Speaker 4: He made all the line checks, the you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So it was kind of like everything with him,
Speaker 4: and you know, they different players.
Speaker 5: Like I said, did you ever get chewed out by him?
Speaker 5: Was there ever a time he gave you a dag
Speaker 5: nabbot or anything like that?
Speaker 4: Now, we used to try to make him get on
Speaker 4: his nerves, to make him try to, you know, get
Speaker 4: mad at the defense. So that was our goal, try
Speaker 4: to get him.
Speaker 6: You wanted to curse.
Speaker 4: I wanted I wanted to see if we can want
Speaker 4: to hear that, Yeah, but it never happened.
Speaker 6: It never happened. What a guy did.
Speaker 2: He never get after somebody on offense.
Speaker 1: And like you hear stories with like Peyton Manning, like
Speaker 1: if a tight en or somebody would drop a ball
Speaker 1: in practice, he'd like get him out. He'd like get
Speaker 1: him the offense himself coaching, telling the tight end to
Speaker 1: go back on it back.
Speaker 2: NOA, I give me somebody in here who can catch
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: All the time, he had that standing when you came
Speaker 4: in the huddle, he came on the field, he was
Speaker 4: gonna line up right. If you wasn't lined up right,
Speaker 4: he was gonna say something. And it's just as that
Speaker 4: mutual understanding that hey, when I'm not here in the hud,
Speaker 4: I need to know what I'm doing. You know, ready
Speaker 4: you are running back? That got protection or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: He wanted to know. You need to know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: It's got to be so sick to play for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Then, like how long did he How long did he
Speaker 1: play Rivers?
Speaker 5: Seventeen years with that wanky ass, fucking side arm throw,
Speaker 5: checking stuff at the line, checking in everything. Yes, in
Speaker 5: the playoffs. Yeah, look nine kids like he was working
Speaker 5: on and off the field.
Speaker 2: I thought he had double digit O.
Speaker 6: He just went to ten and he just went to ten.
Speaker 5: But when he was playing, come on from get to
Speaker 5: ten until he had to be here to retire, and
Speaker 5: he was like, no, I have more time for the.
Speaker 2: One in the game.
Speaker 6: Here one graduating college and about come.
Speaker 4: Up the room.
Speaker 6: My god, congrats you have a kid right few years old.
Speaker 6: Just so, I heard that baby is stacked.
Speaker 4: He looking like a defensive end right now, like he's
Speaker 4: gonna be on the d N. But he is definitely
Speaker 4: getting big for sure.
Speaker 6: I heard somebody might be a big baby too. With
Speaker 6: the nickname?
Speaker 2: Was it poo bear?
Speaker 5: Bet?
Speaker 4: I got to start telling the world. I'm just telling you,
Speaker 4: I'll be telling the world and about all these people.
Speaker 6: Would you get that cute ast nick name poo Beert?
Speaker 4: May you get that cute nick name? Dude? My mom
Speaker 4: used to call me that growing up, little fat kid. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I kind of tuvvy the cheeks and stuff. You get bullied, No,
Speaker 4: I ain't get bullied. You were having that huh, poo
Speaker 4: bear man?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, when did.
Speaker 6: You go from poop beer to safety?
Speaker 4: I ain't started playing safety till I got to the
Speaker 4: ninth grade because you know, that was the only position
Speaker 4: open on varsity. I played offense my whole life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: running back, no, running back. I was all right, I
Speaker 4: was all right. I was decent. But you know, I
Speaker 4: play offense my whole life, and that was the only position.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to play JV because I don't want
Speaker 4: to play on Thursday nights. Now I need to be
Speaker 4: out there Friday night. You know, nat as a freshman,
Speaker 4: you need to be out there. You know that's different, man,
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, so I was like, I play, know
Speaker 4: what I mean? I played, so I started learning and
Speaker 4: I just went from there.
Speaker 5: Man, what kind of hypothetical could we give him? He
Speaker 5: feels like, I feel like I would you rather too
Speaker 5: in the back if we could think of a couple,
Speaker 5: would you rather be nice?
Speaker 4: I need?
Speaker 5: Man, I do running back though, because you think he's
Speaker 5: still to that rock, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I definitely I need to get a pick to show
Speaker 4: the world, like you went up with the ball in
Speaker 4: my hands, what I can do. See they ain't seeing
Speaker 4: that side of me. They think I'm just you know,
Speaker 4: I hit her. You feel what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 4: I need to rock in my hands, you know, so
Speaker 4: I can show them how mean.
Speaker 1: You have last year three because you had you. I mean,
Speaker 1: your statue was filled up pretty well last year. You
Speaker 1: were in the defensive Player of the Year running at
Speaker 1: one moment.
Speaker 4: Right early, but not not really like that. I gotta
Speaker 4: get my stacks up, man.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, I could have swore he was in
Speaker 1: a conversation at some point.
Speaker 4: Man, I gotta get some more sacks, more more picks.
Speaker 4: That's on me. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Who's the best player on the team right now? Justin
Speaker 5: who was the second best player in the him?
Speaker 4: James?
Speaker 5: Who's the third best player on the team?
Speaker 4: Ship? That's tough.
Speaker 6: You got some studs now, like y'all got a roster.
Speaker 4: Keith is tough your eleven year little Joey, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean everybody tough. I don't know that's tough.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But you got you one on defense.
Speaker 4: Over however you want to say, he's trying to make that.
Speaker 4: Try to say, I like you over.
Speaker 2: Who's the hardest hitter you've ever played with?
Speaker 4: Hardest hitter as a player, Yeah, probably Denzel Paraman. He
Speaker 4: used to hit hard, bro, He used to hit people hard.
Speaker 1: I was gonna see if that's who he's gonna say,
Speaker 1: because he is like a fucking missile. Yeah saying, dude,
Speaker 1: he walks and runs like a penguin's got his feet out.
Speaker 4: But he bro here.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking, like walk around just and I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: like just a white beater just your yes like he bo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got sweats on, white beater slides.
Speaker 6: You walking a penguin?
Speaker 2: Yeah you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah you got to my dog dog knock your dick
Speaker 1: in the dirt, bro ship.
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, who were when you were coming out of high school?
Speaker 4: Who are your top five top five safeties?
Speaker 6: No, top five schools, top five?
Speaker 4: Oh, Florida state, Florida State.
Speaker 2: No coming.
Speaker 6: Who is the top five offers?
Speaker 4: Oh? My top five offers. So see, I committed like
Speaker 4: ninth grade, so a lot of teams don't really offer.
Speaker 2: Me back out in ninth grade.
Speaker 6: So you started playing safety in ninth grade?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I committed like going into my ninth grade years.
Speaker 5: Fucking nuts, Like, how did you pull that offer that
Speaker 5: that quick?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 2: At a camp? Somebody offered me.
Speaker 4: To a junior day And I'm like a freshman, I'm like,
Speaker 4: why they invite me to like a junior day type?
Speaker 4: You know, when juniors and seniors.
Speaker 2: Go, yeah your freshman year, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going on. No, this was yeah, this
Speaker 4: was February of my freshman year. Yeah, so after the season. Yeah,
Speaker 4: no ship was it before? Because that that is are
Speaker 4: You're right? Like the junior days are like in February.
Speaker 4: I can't remember brothers before. It's been so long ago,
Speaker 4: but I can't remember. But yeah, they invited me to
Speaker 4: a junior day, but I didn't even know what it
Speaker 4: was inviting me. So I go to ted Ass and
Speaker 4: my dad takes me up there. Then he offered he
Speaker 4: offers me coach Fisher and they said, I see you
Speaker 4: in four years. No ship kind yeah that kind of went.
Speaker 4: I had Alabama, Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I had Florida by making a good pushter at the
Speaker 1: end of your senior year, that were you kind of.
Speaker 4: I was already tattooed with Florida State ninth for real,
Speaker 4: eighteenth grade.
Speaker 6: It was alay o bro tattoos in ninth grade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro man, I had a thing at kid.
Speaker 5: With tattoos in high school and like, oh fuck dude,
Speaker 5: Oh no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hold basketball. We had a thing. So I
Speaker 4: used to play basketball and our whole starting five we
Speaker 4: had to have like tattoos or you couldn't be out
Speaker 4: there on the court with us. Yeah, I whole starting
Speaker 4: five we was was tatted up. So that's how it
Speaker 4: kind of started for me.
Speaker 6: When did you have a full sleeve?
Speaker 4: M I didn't see. I ain't going to the sleeve
Speaker 4: till like junior scene year. Kind of like when I
Speaker 4: was on my way out.
Speaker 6: Of high school. Yea, brother, you gotta understand.
Speaker 5: You had to be thinking to yourself at one point
Speaker 5: in high school football, you're you're looking on the field
Speaker 5: and you don't see any other guys are tattoos.
Speaker 6: I think you're an outlier.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people with tattoos more than you think.
Speaker 4: It's Florida is different. It's a different world, different man,
Speaker 4: them boys, it's Florida Day.
Speaker 6: About hockey Florida.
Speaker 4: I know about the monk down at them boys. I
Speaker 4: know about the like I went three hours away.
Speaker 5: From I went to Michigan and Hockey Florida, and you know,
Speaker 5: Jenner Robinson is right field beach. They would fucking talk.
Speaker 5: I wouln't understand the word they're saying.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 6: It was the most nuts ship. Like you know, they
Speaker 6: would enunciate.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't. Fucking it was the most wild thing. I'm like,
Speaker 5: you gotta, I need a translator.
Speaker 6: There's no funck.
Speaker 2: It was wild titles, all these uses talking.
Speaker 6: Dude, But did I would get with them? Maybe laughing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I wish I could laugh with them,
Speaker 5: but I just can't understand what they're saying.
Speaker 6: Hooky dudes are different.
Speaker 4: Now, them boys speaking whole another lingo down there. Yeah.
Speaker 6: See cheasing rabbits as their conditioning tests.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a real thing.
Speaker 2: It really would.
Speaker 6: There be like an acre fence and they're like rabbits
Speaker 6: and catch a rabbit, You're done.
Speaker 4: They do that.
Speaker 2: That's fucking legendary.
Speaker 4: That in Florida.
Speaker 6: Some Yeah, that's some weird what's a Florida thing?
Speaker 4: It Florida. They do that in Miami too, like Miami Central, Florida, Jacksonville,
Speaker 4: they do that everywhere in Florida.
Speaker 6: So Florida. Do you think football's best football in Florida?
Speaker 4: Of course? Come on in Texas. Yeah, in Pennsylvania, man,
Speaker 4: any state, any country, any Florida, Florida. You want to
Speaker 4: a skilled person go to Florida.
Speaker 6: Really, well, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that nuts lineman and so what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's linemen up north over Georgia.
Speaker 4: Now Georgia got the line. And see Georgia they got
Speaker 4: like Texas they got a good linemen. Alabama they got
Speaker 4: good line. You want to go to a skilled player,
Speaker 4: go to Florida, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: I'm calling here, bro.
Speaker 6: Who's the best player to come out of Louisiana in
Speaker 6: your opinion?
Speaker 4: The best player?
Speaker 5: They have some studs now come out of Louisiana, the
Speaker 5: state of Louisiana, the state?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, what about what you want?
Speaker 4: I can give you the best deons corner okay, safety?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Who the best? Say? I don't like saying myself.
Speaker 6: Man, you just have a couple of times Herbert and
Speaker 6: then he said you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was being honest. But I say me
Speaker 4: right now, I don't know. I gotta think of song.
Speaker 2: What about running back?
Speaker 4: Oh, we got a lot of running backs. Derek Harry,
Speaker 4: probably Derek Harry.
Speaker 6: What about you ever play him? You playing Julie?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we ain't play Julie. That boy was going
Speaker 4: crazy out of that.
Speaker 1: What about a receiver? Who the best receive we got
Speaker 1: coming out that came out of Florida.
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably in the leader, not probably like Kelvin.
Speaker 4: Really want of them boys. Good.
Speaker 6: Calvin really is gonna be a menace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, freak Calvin Ridley's back.
Speaker 6: You see what he said.
Speaker 5: No, he said, I'm gonna make up every single dollar
Speaker 5: I lost out him last year, like a true gambler.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's put in the house on myself, on myself. Well,
Speaker 5: beast man. He's a beast, really a beast. He played
Speaker 5: for the Jags, though, but a beast. You want to
Speaker 5: see him again. You want to see the Jags again.
Speaker 4: I want to see anybody we played Right now, I understand.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 5: Who's who's your biggest threat besides the Chiefs who I
Speaker 5: like to play? No like threats to the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 5: Besides the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: I feel like them. They won a Super Bowl. They don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's gotta be there's thirty other teams.
Speaker 4: I mean, probably the Broncos or the raided. They in
Speaker 4: our division. We gotta win those games. But the other threats,
Speaker 4: I feel like you're gonna beat him. Some teams may
Speaker 4: uther beat them, or we got to see him what
Speaker 4: we see him. You know what I mean, ain't really threats.
Speaker 5: Did you see all the stuff that John Payton was
Speaker 5: saying about Russell Wilson and the coaching staff from last
Speaker 5: year at the Broncos.
Speaker 6: No, he said, he basically just fucking crushed him. I
Speaker 6: won't to ask you the question.
Speaker 5: He was like, they fucking sucked, the coaching sucked, all
Speaker 5: of it sucked.
Speaker 4: Oh man, you know I'll get into none of that. Man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. If you know about.
Speaker 4: He can't be talking about definite about one of my guys.
Speaker 2: Stuff is so big there's no way it doesn't make
Speaker 2: it in the locker room.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, how do you
Speaker 6: hate on Herbert?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: I don't know he found a way. I have no
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Speaker 6: Back to the episode, do we have a hypothetical?
Speaker 8: Would you rather have skin that changes color based on
Speaker 8: your emotions or tattoos appear all over your body depicting
Speaker 8: what you did yesterday?
Speaker 4: My skin change color, boy, I'd be living you feeling,
Speaker 4: I'll be living. I'd be living, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Change colors? Oh Derwin torny again?
Speaker 7: What color would you be on a Friday night?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm bright on my side I'm gonna be bright yello
Speaker 4: about that. Man, that's funny.
Speaker 5: What was the hypothetical that we were split on earlier?
Speaker 5: It was a big one.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: Would you rather have all of your phone messages leaked
Speaker 8: and pictures leaked?
Speaker 7: Or get rid of your phone forever?
Speaker 4: Linked?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I need my phone, you have everything link.
Speaker 2: You would leak all the history of every text you've
Speaker 2: ever seen?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, first I had to switch.
Speaker 4: Up right now today? Yeah yeah, but no, not no,
Speaker 4: you have no longer have a phone ever again. I'm
Speaker 4: on a computer, matter exactly, going back out?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, well we're as love. How we just
Speaker 5: pivot to something else?
Speaker 6: That was the worst show.
Speaker 2: We are the worst show.
Speaker 4: You switched it like that?
Speaker 6: What do you think about this year coming up?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I was going to go back to ball.
Speaker 1: Like for your game and your development, where do you
Speaker 1: feel like you've grown the most?
Speaker 2: Like since being in the league.
Speaker 4: I feel like just being a leader and understand in
Speaker 4: the room and understanding the guys like around me. I
Speaker 4: feel like just me being able to lead more and
Speaker 4: me being able to understand people more allowed me to
Speaker 4: play more calmer and like use less athleticism if that
Speaker 4: makes sense. Yeah, I'll kind of already be there, you know,
Speaker 4: with my mind, and it's kind of easier.
Speaker 1: For me those like relationships and confidence like being a
Speaker 1: leader and everything else. How do you when do you
Speaker 1: feel like that made a jump? Like were you somebody
Speaker 1: who was more soft spoken.
Speaker 2: In the beginning? Nah, I know you feel more comfortable
Speaker 2: or now.
Speaker 4: I was always a leader, but I never wanted to
Speaker 4: be the guy to come in and step in. Nobody
Speaker 4: told you know, as a coming as a rookie, you
Speaker 4: kind of respect the room. You kind of you know,
Speaker 4: see who on the team, see who the leaders is.
Speaker 4: But now it's like, I mean you're six now, bro,
Speaker 4: so it's like I kind of understand my role. I
Speaker 4: understand you know, what they paying me to do, so
Speaker 4: I understand who my positions. Yeah, and it makes more
Speaker 4: sense to me. I'm more comfortable because you know, having
Speaker 4: that time away, those two years, I got to grow,
Speaker 4: you know, I got to be able to be in
Speaker 4: the building and see stuff and learn. So it was.
Speaker 6: Cool when you first came in the league.
Speaker 5: Besides Philip Rivers, like who were the staple leadership like
Speaker 5: group of this of this team.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was a guy by the name of Brandon
Speaker 4: me Ban. He was a big leader. Melvin Ingram, he
Speaker 4: was the.
Speaker 5: Leader on the mail was a leader when he would
Speaker 5: do that stand up rover.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys have like three down linemen. He would
Speaker 6: just picking jews where he went.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. And I probably say who else was
Speaker 4: the leader that Keenan was. Keenan was a leader to
Speaker 4: on the team of course, and Casey Hayward, those guys.
Speaker 5: I bring that up because, uh, the last time I
Speaker 5: saw you, the first time I met you was with
Speaker 5: the Pouncy Brothers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in Florida. Yeah, and I don't know, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Good night? Yeah, what's that a good night?
Speaker 6: Yeah, solid night?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my guys. That was like my big
Speaker 4: brothers are different. Yeah, that was like my big brother right, Huh.
Speaker 4: The Florida guys to come on the Polk County, same hometown,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, that's Polk County man,
Speaker 4: Come on.
Speaker 6: But what was it?
Speaker 4: What was like?
Speaker 6: What was it like playing with the Pouncy Brothers.
Speaker 4: Man, It was amazing. It was funny, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I used to chill with him like every day, you know,
Speaker 4: we used to just chill hang out. You know, he'll
Speaker 4: give me just a lot of game, just being into
Speaker 4: him being in the league, him seeing a lot of stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, and telling me, hey, don't do this, don't
Speaker 4: do this. And so it was like that big brother
Speaker 4: for me that I never had, you know, someone I
Speaker 4: can relate to that's from my hometown. That then kind
Speaker 4: of you know, went to college something I get to see,
Speaker 4: like from first hand, and you know, being on the charges,
Speaker 4: so you know, I learned a lot from him. For real.
Speaker 2: How long are you going to play?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to play out you got to if you
Speaker 1: got to decide how long you played? How long would
Speaker 1: you want to play?
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't do it no more. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to play. I missed the Wheels fall off, I missed
Speaker 4: out on two seasons, so I'm fresh. I feel good,
Speaker 4: So I'm ready. Man.
Speaker 1: I was hoping you said number so I could come
Speaker 1: up with the hypothetical would you.
Speaker 2: Play if you knew you were going to be?
Speaker 1: Like would you be a guy who as the older
Speaker 1: you get and you become a backup?
Speaker 2: Would you do like a backup role? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, though, like say you get.
Speaker 5: Old, Hey, we want you to mentor these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're gonna Hey, we're gonna draft a guy. He's gonna
Speaker 5: play in front of you. You never know what the future. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel great. Do you never know?
Speaker 4: You know? But I feel like my talent God got
Speaker 4: me be good.
Speaker 5: I mean, but God's got everybody to a certain extent.
Speaker 5: And then by the time Tom Brady brother like besides him,
Speaker 5: everybody gets got maybe Aaron Rodgers too.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of like a fun hypothetical base off of him.
Speaker 2: How long he wants to Plady, how long he.
Speaker 1: Wants to play, you get a super Bowl, You're done
Speaker 1: after year seven? Seven years from say you you either
Speaker 1: play twelve years in the league, no super Bowls, or
Speaker 1: make the rest Pro Bowls. I was gonna say, twelve
Speaker 1: years in the league, no super Bowls, or you play
Speaker 1: seven years and get a super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Shit, that's a nice one. That's a nice one. Would
Speaker 4: you say seven years? What was that again?
Speaker 2: Seven years in the league? You get it over? So
Speaker 2: either yeah, you can.
Speaker 1: Get a super Bowl this year, next year, or you
Speaker 1: play twelve years and you'll never get a super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I gotta get that Bowl. I gotta get a Bowl,
Speaker 4: but I want to play twelve. Oh no, that's it tough, bro. Oh,
Speaker 4: it's tough. I can't answer. I can't pay, bro, I can't.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's tough, BRO, I could pass that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What would you do?
Speaker 6: Seven years and a super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I want to play, though, Bro, I.
Speaker 6: Want to I want to play tho. Why do you
Speaker 6: play the game for love win?
Speaker 4: It's like me saying, Okay, if I told you to
Speaker 4: win a super Bowl, you play two years, and you
Speaker 4: we win a super Bowl in one year, versus you
Speaker 4: playing eight years of never winning. Which one you're gonna
Speaker 4: pick two years and quit?
Speaker 2: I'll probably do eight years exactly.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. No super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But you get seven years and you get a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You got a contract, so you could almost be like,
Speaker 1: all right, so look, you made money. You do two years,
Speaker 1: You're not going to ever see like a second contract.
Speaker 1: I would be like, okay, you want to play eight
Speaker 1: because that selfish need for the Yeah, once you're established financially,
Speaker 1: it's almost like, oh, it's all about the you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you could just super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You've done that.
Speaker 5: Funny and so now that happing seven is one of
Speaker 5: those things where it's like you could.
Speaker 4: Just yeah, but if it's not ten, ten's not twelve,
Speaker 4: twelve is not seven? I mean seven?
Speaker 2: Right, we're doing it.
Speaker 6: We're doing a fucking math out here. Yeah, look at
Speaker 6: all of us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you I want to play because especially I
Speaker 4: missed two seasons. I want to play.
Speaker 6: You did twelve.
Speaker 4: I'm doing I need to do it. I got to
Speaker 4: be out of there.
Speaker 5: Well, let's let's juice this up a little bit. We'll
Speaker 5: do eight years in a super Bowl or you got
Speaker 5: worth thirteen or thirteen years?
Speaker 4: You got eight? Eight Supero you got you went out
Speaker 4: of eight?
Speaker 2: You got me?
Speaker 6: Oh that's that's good.
Speaker 4: Now, I was just saying super Bowl with eight you
Speaker 4: got me.
Speaker 6: You didn't take that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I take that one over thirteen.
Speaker 6: Oh Bowl, that's seven doesn't sound as good as eight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight sound better than at.
Speaker 5: Eight nine and nothing sounds better than ten. Fuck that
Speaker 5: is what you need? The elusive year ten?
Speaker 4: Yeah definitely, what about what about?
Speaker 6: Uh? Seven years?
Speaker 5: Super Bowl will go back to that, but you get
Speaker 5: fifteen years, but you never ever winning season again.
Speaker 4: But I gotta But you know how to sit as
Speaker 4: you don't win, but it's worse, the worst to be
Speaker 4: in the NFL. It's not fun if you ain't winning.
Speaker 4: It's literally the worst.
Speaker 7: Are you close with Edrin James at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that's my cousin.
Speaker 2: Yeah James, Yeah, go ahead, JP, What do you got?
Speaker 8: I was gonna ask if helped you out as you
Speaker 8: were like coming up into the league.
Speaker 4: So like like he was always like, you know, my dad,
Speaker 4: because he's my dad's second cousin and my third cousin.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, you know, we had like
Speaker 4: an outside relationship. And as I got older in college
Speaker 4: and stuff, you know, he started I got this number
Speaker 4: and stuff, and you know we started to connecting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty fucking sick. Edward James is your cousin.
Speaker 5: I was about to say, uncle, Yeah, who is your
Speaker 5: biggest mentor in the league?
Speaker 4: My biggest mentor, I say, probably like my parents. And
Speaker 4: then I had like a lot of great coaches along
Speaker 4: the way that kind of I can't just give all
Speaker 4: the credit to one coach because from my Pop Warners
Speaker 4: coach to to my high school coach, I kind of
Speaker 4: had some good coaches that can help you know, that
Speaker 4: give you that push, do you know, to keep going?
Speaker 4: So I can't just give all the credit of one person.
Speaker 1: Is there somebody that does stand out when you look
Speaker 1: back on your like journey, career, all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh man, this this whether it's coach, parent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom, dad, for sure, because I feel like
Speaker 4: without them, I wouldn't be in a position I am,
Speaker 4: and especially my mom making the sacrifices saying for my dad.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like this has been a fucking
Speaker 1: We've hit the dude. Is there anything we're missing because
Speaker 1: I feel like we got we you know, his guards down.
Speaker 1: We're having a little bit of fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite staff member of the charge?
Speaker 4: Bull and Megan?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Megan was speaking your more flowers.
Speaker 2: Why Meghan?
Speaker 4: You know, we came in the same time. It's been
Speaker 4: fun and anything I needed, she've been there, so you
Speaker 4: know we locked in.
Speaker 2: Well. Brother, We appreciate you coming on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you have a healthy year. I hope you guys
Speaker 1: do well. Not as well as the Raiders, but I
Speaker 1: hope you do well.
Speaker 4: Brother. Come on come on now, hold up baby. Thank
Speaker 4: you to you. M