1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: Hey, when I'm welcome in, I'm dot glib. This is 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: all ball. Um, the NBA Playoffs had begun, and I'm 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna say something to you which I don't think I 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: would ever have uttered. And yet I'm gonna convince you 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: what I've convinced myself that it's true. Part two of 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Stanley Johnson is upcoming way to hear what he says 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: about Russell Westbrook and whether or not Russ should be 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: back with the Lakers next year. But before we get 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: to that, if I say, the difference in college and 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: NBA basketball, even if you're a serious hoop guy, what 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna think you're gonna be like? Man? The 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: college guys there's more energy, they play harder, the crowds 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: more into it. The pro guys more skill, but not 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: the same atmosphere, not the same energy, almost not the 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: same sport. But then I was thinking to myself self, Um, 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: you know NBA playoff games, especially like Boston taken on 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Brooklyn was an unbelievable atmosphere. N c A Terman games 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: not a great atmosphere. Neutral site, Yeah, some of those 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: neutral sites get pretty wild. Next year is gonna be 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: awesome with Vegas and Madison's here Garden in Louisville, uh 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: in Kansas City for the regional sites. The final fours 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: are incredible, and when the games are good, it's awe inspiring. 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: But it's not like it's a crazy crazy image or 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: it's a crazy crazy atmosphere, right, it's just not. Um 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: What it is and what's special about it is the 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: fact that there's seventy five thou people in a building. 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: It's the biggest and the best and the highest and 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: the biggest stage. I would challenge you on anybody saying 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: that the atmospheres are better in the n c A 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Terman than they are the NBA playoffs regular seasons really comparable, 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: although a lot of college basketball atmospheres that we think 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: of aren't the same. Stanford used to be great. It's 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: crumbing now, right, it just is Washington used to be great. 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: It's coming out. Some of that is the teams aren't good. 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Some of that is like Stanford, things just don't care. 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Texas building a new arena. Frankly, it's perfect size and 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: smaller arena then you think of Texas. I think it 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: will work. But there are plenty of wine and cheese 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: crowds at the University of Texas. So I'm I truly 40 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: believe that the NBA's atmosphere wall stale for many regular 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: season games, is great in the playoffs and the matchups 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: are incredible. I mean to watch Chris Paul and what 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: he does when people try to make him score, so 44 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: he scores, you know, people trying to make him pass. Well, 45 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: then he wants to make him pass. He's unbelievable. He 46 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: can't stop them going, right, He's just trouble um. And 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: then of course you got the Celtics taken on Kyrie, 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: and I don't mind Kyrie giving it back to the 49 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: fans some but you know, telling your friends, telling somebody 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: to you know, s your d when you're on the 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: way to the locker room, Like just walk into the 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: locker room, dude, win the game and you win any 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: verbal spat. He played great, although the last three possessions, 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: two on defense they scored over in both times for layups, 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: and one on offense where he overdribble when he got 56 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: double teamed. You know, uh, those are those are unbelievable 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: that he can play that well. And then frankly, he 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: played poorly down the stretch or maybe down three possession 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: stretch and they lose the game. Do I think they 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: lost the game because he was chirping to the fans? No? 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Is it surprising that his defense was shoddy as was 62 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: the Nets defense. No, but that was a winnable Game one, 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: and they may rue the day that they lost Game 64 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: one because a three point lead with forty seconds ago. 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: With those two guys, you should close the door and 66 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: close the deal. All right, let's get to Stanley Johnson. 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Of course, when we talked to him in part one, 68 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: it was about high school and college. Now we get 69 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: to the NBA. What went wrong in Detroit? What was 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: the journey? Like? How about the coll up he got 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: this year? Wait till you here why he didn't actually 72 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: play for the Bulls even though the Bulls called him up. 73 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: What's it like to play with Lebron? And should Russell 74 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Westbrook be back with the Lakers next year? Let's dig in. 75 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: Here's part two with Stanley Johnson. So you decide to 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: go to the NBA. What do you remember about the 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: process of getting ready for the afternoon? Um, I just 78 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: think it was it was very hard, Like obviously, Uh, 79 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to thinking about it from from the from 80 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: the from the looking down because like my mom was 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: my mom passing away. Um, it was like that was 82 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: very there for me. UM. So I talk for me 83 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: to think about, UM, how I used to feel or 84 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. UM. But when she first, 85 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: when did she first, when she first gets sick? She 86 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: got sick? Um when I was born. She she had 87 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: dinosaur breast cancer when I was born. UM that was UM. 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: So obviously as a kid, you don't know, you know, no, 89 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: none of that. UM. But going to the n b A, 90 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: it was for me, it was weird. It was weird 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: losing in the Elite eight UM because I at that 92 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: point I never lost before, and it was like it 93 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: was almost I felt unfulfilled. UM. So it was one 94 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of those things that it was Sean Miller who had 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: to talked to and like, you know people I trust, 96 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, this is the right decision to make 97 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: to go to the n b A. UM. But leaving 98 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: Arizona and knowing that I didn't put a banner up 99 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: there will always hunt me, like it's always one of 100 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: the things that I wish I would have done. I 101 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: wish I could have done. I think I could have done. 102 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I know I could have done um with the team 103 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: around us, no matter who it was. Um. And just 104 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: at the time, at the time in place, that's just 105 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: where I was at in my life. Um. So go on, 106 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: the NBA was like awesome. Like I feel like my 107 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: work ethic was always to that caliber of a player. Um. 108 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I was at caliber player since I 109 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: was seventeen. Uh. Um So again, drafted stuff was fun. 110 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Obviously when I'm passing away after I got drafted, it 111 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: was less fun. But talking about getting drafted in that process, 112 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: it was it was just a process. Like I'm I've 113 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: always been a basketball player, so you know, I could 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: play against the best guys my whole life U I 115 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: b L or you know, pain Goes or any of 116 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: these like you know, elite tournaments. I've always tried to 117 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: seek out the best players. So I feel like at 118 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: some point in time, the NBA was my next step. Um. 119 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: And that's what was she like during it? I mean 120 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: obviously she wasn't well, but what was what was her input? 121 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Like you no one, no one would ever know that 122 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: she was like terminally ill, Like no one in the 123 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: world ever know that. Um, she was so invested in mice, 124 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: in me, Stanley Johnson the secment. UM. She was so 125 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: invested in what I had going on. UM, it was 126 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: just very hard to She's so selfless, like it was. 127 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: She was so selfless. It was. It's such a thing, 128 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: like you know, even looking at it, looking back at it, UM, 129 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: And I'll get older and I look back at it 130 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: some more. But like I wish I can be that humble. 131 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I wish I could be that selfless. But she would 132 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: come to my game. She would drive there, you know, 133 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe like things, she would drive there. And I just obviously, 134 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: like you know, I don't want to make this about 135 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: me and my mother, but I appreciate that, Like you know, 136 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: it's like something that you can't recreate. UM. And obviously 137 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: as a as an athlete, but before I'm an athlete, 138 00:08:53,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm a person. UM as a person like it. It's 139 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: it became hard at some point in time, especially when 140 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: I got two weeks and after I got drafted. It 141 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: was June. I went to my summer league and like 142 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: probably what four weeks later, I'm in the hospital. UM, 143 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: And that's very hard to like, you know, it's very 144 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: hard to go through UM. Old. By the way, this 145 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: part is actually about you and your mom, So you 146 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: don't have to apologize for that for that one second, 147 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: it's just about you. It's just about your journey. Yeah, 148 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to like I don't want to make 149 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: it because like one thing, one thing, one thing I 150 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: want to say. And my mom would never ever take 151 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: a scapegoat. Like my mom would never ever, Like I 152 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: think my mom heard me saying what I'm saying now, 153 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: she would tell me to be quiet in in nicer terms. Um, 154 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: that's me saying in nicer terms, saying nice in terms. Um, 155 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: but my mom never asked for anything. And like you know, 156 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: in retribution, I'm not sure if that's the right worry, 157 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: but in retribution, yeah, it was almost. It was always 158 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: about like even when I was young, like you know 159 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: everyone you know I grew up, how I grew up, 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: and you know, X, Y and Z. I'm not gonna 161 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: like give you you know, whatever it may be. But 162 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: it was never like oh oh poor me, poor me. 163 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: It's like this is our situation, this is what you 164 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: gotta do. Yeah. Um, So like you know even now, 165 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: like my mom would never you know, my mom would 166 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: never my mom would. I think my mom would have 167 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: would adore the fact that I'm like, you know, this 168 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: is my son, and he you know, he still loves 169 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: you the same. But my mom would never like, you know, 170 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: respect me, like taking a taking it out because I 171 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: had a hard time, you know, because she had a 172 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: million hard times and I get it, but like, I'll 173 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: give you the perspective. It's like, look, and my dad 174 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: lived a lot longer. I was really fortunately live to 175 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: hiss like seventy seventy three. But it's still like she was. 176 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: She was your person. She's your mom, she's your coach, 177 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: she's your confidence. She was a lot of things. And 178 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, and and and like when you're nineteen and 179 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: you're leaving college, you felt done, like you didn't fulfill 180 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: your guy's destiny. You get poked in the eye plan Wisconsin. 181 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: You guys come up a little short, and then you 182 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: have to make these adult decisions about going to play 183 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: in the NBA and you're thrown into a new environment 184 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: and you're the young star and then you have all 185 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: of this. The most important person in your life is 186 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: it is definitely ill, Like that's a lot. And then 187 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: she passes away, and your career you're in a foreign 188 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: city with a with a coach who you know barely 189 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: knows you. She knows you better than anybody. Like that's 190 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: these are all things to have thoughts about. And you know, 191 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: it's not an excuse, it's a it's an explanation. And yeah, 192 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: it's crazy how the world works. Like it's crazy. How 193 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: like in two thousand in fifteen when I got drafted, 194 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: like mental wealth, mental health was never really like it 195 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: wasn't that huge, but catch two, catch two one, mental 196 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: health is everything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And 197 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: like that was I think a part of like the 198 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: growth and a part of everything is like literally learning 199 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: how to learning how to do learning learning that like 200 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: learning how to understand that type of loss, learning how 201 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: to understand like where you're at, learning how to understand 202 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: like how to like not I would never say move 203 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: on because you never can move on from from a 204 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: situation like that, or learning how to proceed and learning 205 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: how to make it right. You know, I'm saying, it's 206 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: not like every's gonna be all okay, But like a 207 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: lot of people, they get try they not triumphs, they 208 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: get um situations or problems and it it breaks them down. 209 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like one thing, my mom, I would 210 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: say this, Like she would always say no excuses, no 211 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: excuses to anything, like no excuses. Um, so like kind 212 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: of going forward, it's like learning how to like really 213 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: deal with like real problems and not make excuses and 214 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: deal with them things and get over them things. So 215 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: like everybody like no one, no one's gonna live a 216 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: hundred fifty seven years. Like you know what I'm saying, 217 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: No one's gonna live their whole life. Everyone has at 218 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: least to die and everyone has at least to live. 219 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, how do you, like, you know, balance 220 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: back from those type of things. Um, something I had 221 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: to learn from myself because like obviously for me and 222 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: my and my journey especially as a as a as 223 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old, like that was heavy for me. Um, 224 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: that was big. I didn't know it was big. It 225 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of things going on. Like my mom 226 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: died on the second, the second week of August until fifteen. Um, 227 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I had a training camp probably like four weeks later. 228 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: So were you with her? I was with her. Yeah, 229 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: I was with her. What do you think about UM, 230 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure I want to say, Okay, I'll give I'll 231 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: give you, I'll give you mine your mind. So so 232 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: my dad was like seventy I think it was seventy two, 233 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: seventy three, and I had been out in California about 234 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Orange County. This is actually, this is a real story. 235 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: So the summer before I had come out and I 236 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: had lived we lived out here. I'd moved out here 237 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: and taking a job of CBS specifically so that I 238 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: could be in Orange County. And CBS moved me back 239 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: to New York even though they knew he was sick, 240 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and it really bothered me, and in some ways it 241 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: was a blessing because they put my radio show on 242 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: so he could see me. Every believe, I can't believe, 243 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm sorry, yeah, well, uh yeah it was. 244 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: It was not good. I mean, you know the president CBS. 245 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: I said, hey, listen, my dad's really sick. This cancer 246 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: spread his brain. Can I just get like, can we 247 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: just like pause on this for like six months and 248 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: and then let me just see if he can. And 249 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: he was like, our business with you is in New 250 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: York now if you want to breach your contract, and 251 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I was like really, So my dad actually encouraged me 252 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: to to to move to to do the move, and 253 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: it ended up working out on some level better and CBS, 254 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: in all honesty, they were like, look, if you're gonna 255 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: go back, go back, spend some time, take your time, 256 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. But they wanted my show moved. 257 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: So I came back in like September maybe sipt yes, September, 258 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: that means October, and I went to his doctor's visit 259 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: with him, and I spent a couple of days with him, 260 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: and I remember, Um, I was in the doctor's office 261 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: and they said, you know, it's spread. It was melanoma. 262 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: It spread to his brain and um So I sat 263 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: in there with this on his doctor's visit and the 264 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: doctor was like, hey, we can't. We can't do any 265 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: more treatments. And they were like why, Like, well, it's 266 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: spread to his brain. And you know, you're coming up 267 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: with all these scenarios or they're coming up you know, 268 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: they're older, and they're like, well, we could do this 269 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: and they'll get better and this could be this, and 270 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of asked the guy like 271 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: is that do we have any other options? And he 272 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: just said not really, you know, not really, and you know, 273 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: it was like it was just hard to take and 274 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how your Your mom was like, my 275 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: my dad was of the generation that they didn't really 276 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: share things. So had I not sat on the you know, 277 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: that doctor visit, I never would have gotten the real end. 278 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: So then I went back and um, actually Miles came 279 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: and got me or said, hey, we're gonna go play. 280 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: We scrimmaged against Irvine Valley. We're like, you know, we're 281 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: like we're like we're like in the early thirties. And 282 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Hernandez called and he's like, hey, man, I need 283 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: some guys to run against my guys. And we went 284 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: with scrimmage. We beat the valley, you know, a bunch 285 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: of old heads, and it was fun. And then I 286 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: was I had this like severe guilt trip and I'm like, 287 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: this could be you know, my dad could die tomorrow. 288 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: And I went and played bass ketball, and you know, 289 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: I got home and my mom was like, your dad 290 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: wants you to play basketball, Like he doesn't want you 291 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: to stop just sit here and stare at him, like 292 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: you know anyway. Um, So then we went back to 293 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Connecticut and we were coming out for Thanksgiving and it 294 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: was two days before thanks that we were leaving the 295 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: next day and he had a brain bleed, like in 296 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. So I flew out and 297 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: by the time I got to his bedside, I mean, 298 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: he was under severe sedation, sedation, sedatives, sedatives, and his 299 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: brain was bleeding and he never came to again. But 300 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I remember sitting there last overnight 301 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: and then finally in the morning, which just like the 302 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: doctor kind of said, like, we can shut out the 303 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: machines and we can do this for another day or 304 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: another couple of days or another week or whatever. But 305 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: there's just there's not You just don't recover from these things. 306 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I remember holding his hand and 307 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: there's an Ohio State football game on the background. He 308 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: went to Ohio State. It's the hardest thing you're ever 309 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna do in your life. So yeah, it was. It 310 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: was It's one that you'll, um, you know, you you 311 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: don't have to share your horse, but it's a it's 312 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: one of those things that you you think eventually it's 313 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: a you know, it's like you said, it's a everybody 314 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: dies and it's just it's inevitable. Um. But when it 315 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: when it happens, it's a because because my dad was 316 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: my coach and every afternoon was picked me up, and 317 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: then we kept gut, we got practice, we gotta do whatever, 318 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: and watched a million games and then he wasn't wasn't there. Um, 319 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: But one thing I want to add to your thing. 320 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: I think our situation is very similar. The only thing, 321 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: the only thing I would say. It's just like for me, 322 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: it's like I would never and I'm not at the 323 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: place where I would feel like it's appropriate. Like I 324 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: don't know how he'll put words to it accurately, um 325 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: to explain like you're that exactly, how you explain it, 326 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: how you just did. No, it's it's you don't have 327 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: because it's one thing I'm not saying I don't have to. 328 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: But I'm one thing I do. I respect you, So 329 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm not ducking no questions. Um, But the same thing 330 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that your dad felt about you, the same film mom 331 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: felt about me. No question, your biggest fan, and they're 332 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: there for you. Play basketball, like be happy, like do 333 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Like you know what I'm saying, 334 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: that type of stuff. No, and and and the and 335 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure this is probably part of it. Again. 336 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm wrong, But you know 337 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: when you're struggling with the Pistons, and they have all 338 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: these expectations that you and you're figuring out playing against 339 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: the best players in the world. God, you wish you 340 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: had your mom right there. You know she had because 341 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: she knew you. You know, she's no one. No one 342 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: believes in you like your like your mom, nobody. And 343 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing that like you know, is 344 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: it's tough, and it's not like no scapegoat, it's not 345 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: no way out, Like you know, I made my own decisions, 346 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: like I I've done what I've done in my career, 347 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: in my life. Um, but obviously, like you know, that's 348 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: something that traumatizing is it's hard for anybody, like for anybody, 349 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: no matter who it is. Fox Sports Radio has the 350 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 351 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within 352 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. Search f s R to 353 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: listen live. What was what? What do you remember about 354 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: early on that first year, first year in the NBA 355 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: eighth overall pick of the Detroit Pistons. I played mad. 356 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: I played mad. I played mad every day I played 357 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit. I played mad. I just played mad. I 358 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: was just mad. I was mad. Like I do not 359 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: like nothing like nothing crazy, like nothing like I had 360 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I know, been no been dead, is on life or 361 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: anything like that. I just played mad. I just played mad. 362 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: I played so mad like I was just mad at, 363 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: I was like angry, like I just played angry. It 364 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: was so funny like watching it like I as I 365 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: do watch like every year, I like especially now, like 366 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: I watched every year my career, every summer, just to 367 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: see like the subtle differences. And that's something I did. 368 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Some things I did positive in those years and something 369 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: that did negative and you know even this year, something 370 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: that I did positive and negative that I want to 371 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: bring back or you know, uh, Um, I just played mad. 372 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: I remember playing mad. Mad. I was mad. I was 373 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: mad the whole year and then in the playoffs that 374 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: even came out even more I was mad. What was 375 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: the feedback you were getting from the front office? Did 376 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: they did they tell you? Did they thought? Did they 377 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: think you're playing well? Did they think you were doing 378 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: what they wanted? Like? What were they telling you? I 379 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: think it was just a young player who just like 380 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: did did enough. Um. Obviously Sam mcgunny had drafted me. Um. 381 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: We went to the the playoffs that year, I dine decently 382 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: well um for a roocke at that point in time. 383 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: So it was about growing um crazy enough. Um. One 384 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: thing I remember the most is I remember after my 385 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: first year, they were like, you know, Kevin Love is 386 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: going to be back, and you know he put on 387 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: a couple of pounds to guard Kevin Love next year 388 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: and we play against That's what I remember. Where were 389 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: you living? I was living in the Valley. I was 390 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles. No, but I mean in Detroit. 391 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Where are you living? Oh, like Orion, like you want 392 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: to start with in Birmingham. So Birmingham super nice. But 393 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: but it's not like it was like like orians this 394 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: is nice. So, but but it's not. It's not home 395 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: right and far from the right. So there's there's no like, 396 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, have your mom. You know you don't have 397 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: your high school coaches. It's like are you living alone? 398 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Have somebody live with you? How did you? How did 399 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: you have? Yeah? I had. I had my cousin with 400 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: me um from my first first year, and then I 401 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: had my brother with me, UM, David Mitchell, UM after 402 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: that all the way through Toronto. So I came back home. 403 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: What was if if you could change something other than 404 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, being angry, which I don't know if you 405 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: can change that, right, because it was just a state 406 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: where you were in life. I wasn't angry. I just 407 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: played mad. I wasn't angry, though I think you were. No, 408 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: I was not angry. I was not angry. I was 409 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: only think. No, I was not angry. I was not 410 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: taking your mom away. No no, no, no, no, no way, 411 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: no way, no way. And I, like, I definitely want 412 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: to make sure that's clear, Like I'm so like I 413 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: just like I'm Christian and I really believe in God's purpose. 414 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: I understand that, but it's still reasonable to be upsets. No, 415 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I was not. I played mad because I knew. I 416 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: played mad because I knew, Like I just want to 417 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: throw ottle you guys, like you know, like my mom 418 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: wants me to be this person, so like you know, 419 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: I want to throw out on you guys, like I 420 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: want to, like you know, get all my emotions out 421 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: on you guys. But not for one second that I 422 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: ever like was angry. I was never an angry person. 423 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: And like to your point, you're asking me, like the 424 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: only thing I regret is not talking to a psychologist 425 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: about like my personal problems before I did it. That's 426 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: the only regret I ever had in my whole life. 427 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: Is talking like talking to a psychologists and understanding, like yourself, 428 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: what do you understand? Do you understand better about yourself now? Mm? 429 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: A lot of things. That's a that's a that's a 430 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: that's a big onion to pill back. Um, But I'm 431 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: just understanding that you're just a person. Like you, you 432 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: make mistakes and and you grow from the mistakes and 433 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: and you move on, like understanding like what life is 434 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: really about and what your joy is really about. Like 435 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: I think, I think those are the things I've learned 436 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: the most. Like I spent my whole life and I'll 437 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: spend the you know, majority of my life until i'm 438 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm some age, you know, living and 439 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: dying and and and and and killing myself to be 440 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: the best basketball player I can be by the end 441 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: of the day when like before, I'm a basketl player, 442 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm a family guy. Like I love my sisters, 443 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: I love my daughter, I love I love my mother, 444 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: I love my father like I love I love I 445 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: love my family. Um, those things are very like structural 446 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: before you can ever before I ever gonna be a 447 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: good basketball player, I have to be a good brother. 448 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I have to be a good friend. I have to 449 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: be a good you know son um and those things 450 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: like especially going through a lot of things, those things 451 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: get like you know, they get mixed up, and there's 452 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: always like a life, there's a life to live. Like 453 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: obviously basketball is my passion and I'll kill I'll kill 454 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: myself doing it and I killed myself doing it for 455 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: a while. But you have to understand, like there's christian there, 456 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: there's your there's your faith, there's there's Christianity, there's there's 457 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: other things than just playing basketball, Like you have to 458 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: under stand like as a as a as a Christian man, 459 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: like you know, God is first, so you have to 460 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: under like you know that type of thing like where 461 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: it got to the point where you're so frustrated, like 462 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: you know you're missing church, like you have to go 463 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: to church. You have to do those things, like those 464 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: are things that kept you grounded before you got to 465 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: the NBA, before you did all these things, and you 466 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: have to go back and do those things. My mom 467 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: was the My mom was the biggest proponent, Like she 468 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: kept me grounded all the time. And I guess when 469 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: she passed away that was like some of the biggest 470 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: things I have to learn from myself is really committing 471 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: myself back to God, committing myself back to my my 472 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: faith and like doing it for myself. Like my mom 473 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: would pray for me every day at six am. Every day, 474 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I'd hear her in the house is yelling and screaming, God, 475 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: please protect my you know, X, Y and Z. So like, 476 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, having to do that type of stuff for 477 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: myself now is like it's different because I have to 478 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: get up a lot earlier to play for for me 479 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: and my family and like my daughter and like a 480 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: lot of you know what I'm saying, like a lot 481 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: of different things. And before someone would do that for me. 482 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: But I went like you know, three two or three 483 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: years without really acknowledging it and not really that hurts 484 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: your life. That hurts you. The next year was the 485 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: year that you got your Your second year was the 486 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: year that you got suspended and then sent down for 487 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: a game to the G League. What happened? I got suspended. 488 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: I didn't even know if I suspended. Um, I think 489 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: get suspended. I think it's suspended. Um I was late 490 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: to a shoot around. Um standmon, gunn he's like an 491 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: uncle to me, and he discapplined me to the right 492 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the way he should. Um, I went to the GEI 493 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: because I don't know, like that's what he thought was right. Um. 494 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I feel like personally I should have I should have 495 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: did that. I got what I deserved. There was nothing more, 496 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: nothing less, Like I played a game there at the time. 497 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: It kind of like woke me up a little bit, 498 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: and I kind of was like, you know, like looking 499 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: back at it today, I'm like proud of it, Like 500 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, thank you, like thank you for 501 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: being honest, Like thank you for like telling me where 502 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm how good I'm playing. You know, I don't think 503 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: I was playing well enough to be in the NBA 504 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: at that point in time, So for him to see 505 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: me to the G League was appropriate, But what was 506 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: But at the time, Okay, And look, you like when 507 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: you're when you're fifteen sixteen, you want to go medal 508 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: in Mexico. When you're like seventeen Lithuania eighteen, you know 509 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: you're playing with FIVA America's that doesn't matter. But I understand, 510 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I understand. But you then you go to Arizona. Then 511 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: you get drafted like everything is going according to plan, 512 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: and now one year into the NBA, you're in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 513 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: if even for a game at the time, not now 514 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: when you have perspective at the time, because the stand, 515 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, was you were you depressed. I was really 516 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: like I remember because my sister was She's not my 517 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: actual sister, my sister Alison. She drove, she flew down 518 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: to driving me up to Grand Rapids, And the whole 519 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: time I was like, man, these dudes to me to 520 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: the G League, I'm about to have a party up here. 521 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: I'mnna have a party up here, like it's gonna be 522 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: like awesome, Like I'm I'm you know, I'm gonna show 523 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: these guys why I'm not supposed to even be here, 524 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't even be around here. So like I 525 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: had a ball, Like I had a ball, Like it 526 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: was like to me, like playing basketball, being able to 527 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: play the whole game, Like come on, that that was 528 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: a ball to me, Like I was. I I enjoyed 529 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: every second of it. So it was supposed to be punishment, 530 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Like dude, I can play the whole game, take all 531 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the shots, like exactly punishing me. Let's do it, you 532 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: know what saying Let's do it, like I got to 533 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: get the FD as we part. The other part that's 534 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: interesting is because I'm really close to Packcarity. He was 535 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: my teammated at Notre Dame. Obviously he was part of that, 536 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: and we're really clad. And when he I was telling 537 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: him to draft you. And when they draft you, got 538 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: draft you, and I remember when they started sliding you 539 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: to the four, and it's it's fascinating because I mean, 540 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: i'd only seen you in high school play the point. 541 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: I didn't see you when you're a freshman sophomore and 542 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: and play point and you this was kind of right 543 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: in the beginning to middle of when guys, because if 544 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: you go back to when, I'll give you a guy, 545 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: Derrick Williams, right, Derek Williams played the five at Arizona 546 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: and then he was drafted to be like a two 547 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: three with the two bols because back then to play 548 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: in the NBA you had to go down a position. 549 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Now you're back playing like four and your garden like 550 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: big dudes, like what was what was that adjustment? Like 551 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: gotta I don't know how to say it, Like yeah, 552 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: I love that I left. I left the Pistons, and um, 553 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: I went to New Orleans. And you know, I think 554 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: the year I got traded when the NBA went position 555 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: was and I guess I'll just keep it at that, 556 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: Like Pat Gary, to me, it's been nothing but amazing, 557 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: like nothing but amazing. So like all them guys, I 558 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: was within Detroit like I have nothing, but like they're 559 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: all amazing to me. Like we all like had what 560 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: we did wrong and right. So I'm not gonna go, 561 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, like it is what it is. Um. But 562 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: in Detroit we were playing positions and the whole league 563 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: was doing differently. Um. I if you look at three 564 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: years before I got drafted, I went from playing like 565 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: the four to point guard to shooting guard, back to 566 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: shooting guard to the four again, you know, and then 567 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: even now I'm playing the five. So like, positions really 568 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: don't matter. Um, it's just about like communication, like what 569 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: your responsibilities are. You know, when you used to when 570 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: you used to bring the ball to court, that's a 571 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: different feeling when you're when you're sitting ball streets. You know, 572 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: you know as much as I do, right, So it's 573 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: definitely a different feeling. I think we all tried our best, 574 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: Like we all tried to do the right things. Okay, 575 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: so what is I would tell you that the criticism 576 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: of you. Obviously people say you're shooting, but something with 577 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: some something Some would say, hey, man, he didn't work 578 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: as hard as he he did when he was when 579 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: he was a kid. Yeah to me, and let me 580 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: say something on that real quick, because like I remember, 581 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: like at some point in time my career standman Gunny 582 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: came out and like, I don't ever talked about Sam Dundee, 583 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: like you know, I believe like he drafted me, he 584 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: gave me opportunity. So I'm not gonna ever like, oh 585 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: my god, damn Gundy was wrong, Like that's not it. Yeah, 586 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: I think there's a miscommunication there. Like I never, I 587 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: have never in my life, like since I was fourteen, 588 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: I've never in my life have not been in the 589 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: gym pretty much every day of the week, twice a day. 590 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Like in the league. I started taking vacations, Like in 591 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: my fourth year in the NBA, I started taking vacations 592 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: like for a week, a couple of days at this point. 593 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, I think it's just a bunch of 594 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: miscommunications that were just kind of wrong. But to say 595 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: I don't have any work ethics, I don't think. I 596 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: don't think no one said no one said you didn't 597 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: have work ethic, right, I don't think that's I don't 598 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: think that. And if I if you thought that, I 599 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: said that, I'm telling you because my thing is like 600 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: I'm watching you and I'm like, excuse my language, what 601 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: the fuck? Like it's like, yo, he's missing, he's missing 602 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: all these shots, like he's not getting better this that 603 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: in the third like okay, and that's all me, but 604 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: like during that time and I'm not gonna sit here 605 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: and like whatever, there's no excuses. That's on me. That's 606 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: on me. Like they were saying, do you think is 607 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: it mental? I mean, I'll give you the I mean like, look, dude, no, okay, no, 608 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: if you put if you put a fish, even a 609 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: fish in the desert, it's gonna be hard for that 610 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: fish to learn how to walk what I'm saying. So 611 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: it's like one of those things like you know, we 612 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: all have to learn how to walk, Like I have 613 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: to learn. There's a lot of learning to do, Like 614 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: are you willing to do the learning? Like are you 615 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: willing to teach the person to learning, and we were 616 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: able to do it, passing up everybody who I've ever 617 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: got encountered with an NBA, even in Detroit. It's all 618 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: been pretty much positive, but there's also been things that 619 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: like I had to learn later in my career, and 620 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: that's just a career. That's like how it happens. Like 621 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: not everybody's career is amazing. Give me, give me something 622 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: that you learned a couple of years in that had 623 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: you known earlier, boy, this would have been really helpful. Um. 624 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: I guess it's being more open with people, like where 625 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm from and how I grew up, Like I've I 626 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: grew up in a single like people people. I think 627 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: people to understand I grew up. I grew up by myself. 628 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: I grew up with me, my mom. I didn't trust 629 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: nobody right like my own father. Like I'm not trying 630 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: to put him under the under the pin here, but 631 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I really didn't start like talking to him until I 632 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: was like fourteen, and even then it was like more 633 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: of a thing. I just became grown, you know what 634 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So my mom can tell me something my 635 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: dad had to tell me. So like it's just a 636 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: it's just communication, as I would say, it's communication, like 637 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: being able to communicate with people, and like the way 638 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: they can get into a place where you can communicate 639 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: with everybody, like get into people's like go to them, 640 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: like meet them where they're at, instead of trying to 641 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is where I'm at, and you 642 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: need to be here. Like meeting people where they're at 643 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: is what I've learned you have to do in anything. 644 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: It's like meet people where they're at. Understand that, like 645 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: be able to communicate with everybody around you, And that's 646 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: the best way to figure out if you like it 647 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: or don't like them, because if you can't communicate, you're 648 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: not doing anything, Like you're just like saying words and 649 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: these words are not even being like they're not even 650 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: hearing them. They don't understand them. Both ways, that's nothing. 651 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: And now it's just like assumptions all over the place 652 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: in New Orleans like awesome, what about it? Alvin Gentry, 653 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Julius Granville, ever, Elford Paying Eatoan More, Frank 654 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: Jackson's a little ogre for like it was like one 655 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: of the better locker rooms I've ever been in my life. 656 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I played point forward there like I did in high school. 657 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: So it made me feel like, you know, like going 658 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: from like that to this, and I'm like, oh, like 659 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I actually can't, like I can't play 660 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: like actually really good at this thing here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, basketball, 661 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm actually really good at this thing. Like I'm actually 662 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: really really good at this thing, Like actually know what 663 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing, Like he knows. Why haven't they been able 664 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: to make it work there? I think they would be. 665 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: I think they would be able to make it work 666 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: if Zion played. I mean, Brandon Ingram is really really 667 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: really really good, Like he's great. C J. McCollum is great, 668 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: like all the young kids I got over there, Murphy 669 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: um Mark, sure, um the other kids. It's not just 670 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: this year, but even when you were there, you know, 671 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: with you get hurt, there just be something that would 672 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: always seemingly you know, Ad eight ended up leaving, But 673 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: before he left, before he left, here's the here's the 674 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: craziest part. The hold on dog, Hold on dog. There's 675 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: the craziest part. You say that the players like he 676 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't work in New Orleans. I get it, But every 677 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: player who left talking about drew a D two in 678 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: specific they both got championships. I understand, so that that 679 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: again that almost that that actually makes my point right, No, 680 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: to not make your point. They also fired the gene 681 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: who the gene who traded for me. They fired. Yeah, 682 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: they did a whole clean house. Will you do a 683 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: clean house? There is no like you have to start over, 684 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: there's no like they're they're they're finally like this year 685 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: when Zion comes back next year, that's now they have 686 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: a team. Now. It's like fool like brandon Ingram teach Mcammen, 687 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. Zion Williamson is like, that's a beast right there. 688 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: That's a beast. By the way. That by the way, 689 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: that's like the Lakers not having lebron I understand that 690 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: means you're gonna have to the guy to Zion. I 691 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: just mean, if you wanna play five, I'm gonna have 692 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: the Zion regardless. Probably, but not having Lebrono your team 693 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: or not having Zion your team makes your team at 694 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: at a definite deficit. What what is what is it 695 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: about Toronto? Like Toronto, it's more than just well, hey 696 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: they had Kauai and they wanted that one year, right, 697 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: It's that even now they're able to be he's super competitive. 698 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know, I know you love 699 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Nick and you think he's a great coach. But what 700 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: is it about that place, that culture that they're able 701 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: to they're able to keep it going there? They have 702 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: they have good they start good year after good year 703 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: after good years. I think it starts with I think 704 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: it starts with the with the head of his name. 705 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: I think it starts with tennem mom, you know, MASSI 706 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: Bobby um, and then it goes down from there, like 707 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: the culture that they have over there, and I was 708 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: a part of it for two years, it's it's so fruitful. Um, 709 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: you can't really I can't really knock it, like there's 710 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: no way you don't get better. Like I feel like 711 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: I am an example of like the Toronto Raptors player development. Well, 712 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: what what specifically, like if you could give me it, 713 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: like give somebody who doesn't know, Like, what what is 714 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: different about everybody has player development, guys, everybody works out guys. 715 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: What about Toronto do guys get better? What what about 716 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: their player development specifically? I think I think, I think, honestly, 717 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: I think it's like passion and love, passion and love 718 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: like they actually like love and care about you're better 719 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: and your betterment as a man and as a player, 720 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: no matter if you're with them or not with them, 721 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: like they actually care about that. I'm talking about a person. 722 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: So had you, so had you and this this is 723 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: just a guess. Had you gone through what you went 724 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: through your rookie year in Toronto, maybe that would have 725 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: never happened in Toronto, right, I know it for a fact. 726 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: By the way, fast forward to this year. Okay, before 727 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: the season, what are you doing? Um? For the season? 728 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: I would is living at my parents house. Um, I 729 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: was working out. I went to Chicago, Um, and I 730 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: wasn't training had with the bullets for pretty much all 731 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: the way into season third. What was that like? It 732 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: was awesome? It was so awesome. What's what's doing? The 733 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: words can't even describe how good he is that coaching? 734 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: Like words came and just like that, dude is a 735 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: is a bona fide leader, a bona fide great coach. 736 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: Um is he recruited me in high school. But like 737 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: as a as a man, like talking to me as 738 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: a man like dudes, like, dude, he's a good dude, 739 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: Like he's a bonafide good dude, like their whole thing 740 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: over there are tourists like good, good people, like great 741 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: people like I don't even know how to like words 742 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: came to express like how grateful I am for I 743 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: mean that experience. And even when I got cut, it 744 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: was bad and I cried about it. Um, but like 745 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: even getting cut, like I can't say like all these 746 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: views asked me over, No they didn't. They gave me 747 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: a fair shot. Who they keep in stead of you? Huh? 748 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: Who'd they keep in stead of you? You should asked them. 749 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. You're in training camp. You 750 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: know you're looking around like me or him? Right, You're 751 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: not compete with CRU So he was a new signy 752 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: and I asked that question. But I think you know 753 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: our tourists and then they they had a team that 754 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: they felt comfortable with at the time. Um, when I 755 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to have a ten day I end 756 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: up getting COVID. I couldn't go back to the team 757 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: the guy who the guy who got signed with me 758 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: after I got COVID got signed with the team. When 759 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: I got out of COVID, I got signed the team 760 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: that I went to. So I kind of all worked together, Um, 761 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: what is that feeling like? And I remember it, I 762 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: guess on a on a very different scale, right, like 763 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: I cutting the C B A. I remember I was 764 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: with the Lakers in Summer League and then I was 765 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: with the Lakers and like they had like that mini 766 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: cans before their big camp and Mitch was the GM 767 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: at the time, and he was incredibly kind and thoughtful. 768 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: But like when he says he wants to see you 769 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: know what's happening. Yeah, but for you what, what's what's 770 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: that feeling like? Of what do you remember about how 771 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: does it work? It was weird because I never got 772 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: cut from I've never got cut from any other team 773 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: in my whole life. The one I knew when our 774 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: tourists called me that I was getting cut. I knew 775 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: it for a fact, Like I knew it. I was like, 776 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: there's no reason why he would call me in for 777 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: for for for for our meeting. If we have practice, 778 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: he might as well just call me after practice. Um. 779 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: And and you know, obviously I went in the meeting 780 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 1: and it was super respectful and they said what they said, 781 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: and you know, out of respect for the conversation that 782 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: they gave me, I'm not gonna like say the details. Um, 783 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: that's sad what they said. And we did what we did, 784 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: and you know, at the end of the day, we 785 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: moved on like like I can do as said before, 786 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: I can do nothing but respect their process of evaluating players. Um, 787 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 1: so did you go right then to the g before 788 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: you got called up or what? What? What's the process? Like? 789 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: You get Chicago for two days? I I got cut 790 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: in the morning. I cried, Um, my girlfriend was staying 791 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: with me at the time where we were staying at 792 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: and I got home and we went to get we 793 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: went to get hot dogs and we just had a 794 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: dinner in Chicago. You tell me, I don't want to 795 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: distrubt your story. Okay, Yeah, I always thought this, and 796 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: it was only the only teams I got any sort 797 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: of shot with the Lakers and the Timberwolves. But I 798 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: always thought, like every day you go in there, you 799 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: start to get more comfortable. You know, like all the 800 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: people who work there's name, you know, you have your 801 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: name on a locker. You started like, oh I could 802 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: and you would already. I mean like you've been in 803 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: the league, so you know, but even me never haven't 804 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: played a minute in the league. You start to think like, hell, 805 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: I could do this, and you you don't want to write. 806 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to think about where would I live, 807 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to think about what would I do? 808 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: What would it be like? Dude to get I mean, 809 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 1: any any human being get introduced to Chicago Bowl uniform 810 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: as the United Center walking by the Jordan statue on 811 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: the way to work, Like that's pretty dope, right, um? 812 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: And it's it's almost it's almost like it just it 813 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: reels you in, reels, you reals in and then all 814 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: of a sudden your dream gets stomped. So now you're 815 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: in Chicago and you go get hot dogs and what 816 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: what that that emotion has got to be really wrong. Yeah, 817 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: I was just I was just more um confused, Like 818 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the same player I played like this year 819 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, Like I was the same player then, 820 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: like you know, like I didn't, I didn't do anything different. 821 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: I actually felt like I played better with the Bulls 822 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: I did with the Lakers, who I had more time 823 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: to like get to know, like we all learned the 824 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: system together. Like I was there from day one with 825 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: the Bulls when Billy was put in a system. So 826 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: I kind of like understood it. You know, I'm like 827 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: learning at a higher rate than everybody else. And it's 828 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: like I had a little bit of advantage at times 829 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: than because I was really like committed to it. Um so, 830 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, But honestly, there was like 831 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: the only thing, only the only part I was mad 832 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: about is the actual feeling of being cut, which is 833 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: all ego. It's never it wasn't about like like I 834 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: knew I did my best. I knew like I knew it, 835 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: Like I remember, I remember telling my girlfriend. I said, honestly, 836 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: like I know I got cut today, but I don't 837 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: believe there were fifteen players better than me in that gym. 838 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. I'm sorry, like I just 839 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: don't believe it. Like I know, I don't know what 840 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do here. I probably have to go to 841 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: Europe or something like that. And you asked me, like 842 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: what did you do next? And I was, you know, 843 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: I was. I sent my two days there and I 844 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: went home and it was it was but right have 845 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: the camp and I took like a week off, not 846 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: a week, like a couple of days just to get 847 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: a commated and stuff like that, and I got back 848 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: in the gym and I was like, you know what 849 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: at this point, like if that doesn't work, then I 850 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 1: just need to go work harder or or do something that, 851 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: like you know, I can show them that, like I'm 852 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm good enough to have a have a chance to 853 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: play sure um and you know crazy enough. You know 854 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: me and you were both close to Miles. So I'm 855 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: going through my fagency. You know, me and Miles are 856 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: playing that modern day like just like playing with the 857 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: high school players and just catching up as we do 858 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: this every summer every year. I've been in the NBA 859 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: every year I've been im since since my freshman year 860 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: of high school. Mims always coming to the gym. Now 861 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 1: that I'm a pro, I always like my I always 862 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: text me. I was like, you know, in the summertime, 863 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: like Miles with days, you're going to mo day. He 864 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: always plays um crazy enough. We had talked about like 865 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: you know, him getting the job, and he adventually got 866 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: the job, and I remember texting the crash relations of 867 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 1: the dada Um and then weirdly enough, he had texted 868 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: me I think after he knew I got cut and 869 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: it's like, yo, like if you have no options, like 870 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, please come play for me, like come like 871 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: if it can't work out. So I was like, you know, Myles, 872 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: like honestly, like you know, like whatever happened. And then 873 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: I went to a guy which is our our international agent. 874 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: His name is Roddey. So Roddey went to me. He's 875 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: like Stanley, you know what, like you know, I really 876 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: believe in what you can do. Um, obviously you can 877 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: go to Europe, but you might have a better chance 878 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: if you can find the great, a great G League team. 879 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: Just go to the G League, you know, with the panel, 880 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 1: with the pandemic and everything, you might have a chance 881 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: to get called up. And how good you are, like 882 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're like you know, right on that list, 883 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: like you're not you know, you didn't, I know you 884 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't make the team, but like you're close. So I 885 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: talked so Miles that already texted me before I went 886 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: into the meeting. So I texted Myles and I was like, 887 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: I was like Miles, like you know what if I 888 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: could play for you, I do it. Um. But at 889 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like you know, like obviously, like 890 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: I want to win, like I don't want to like 891 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: I want to come to the GE League, like we're 892 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna do this G League stuff, like, you know, I 893 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: want to win this thing. And there was a you know, 894 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: there was a couple of conversations and they had they 895 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: had a G League draft and all this stuff happened 896 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: with my agency and stuff like that. So I took 897 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we end up figuring it out 898 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: and I was able to play there for a little bit, um, 899 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: and it was awesome. It was like so awesome, Like 900 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: Miles and again, like you have to understand somebody listen 901 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: to this pot Okay, they might not be grasping this 902 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: just yet. So we're talking about Miles Simon, who of 903 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: course also played Arizona, also played the More Day. Um, 904 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: he and I've been best friends Stance fifth Rade right, 905 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 1: and like you were his guy, Like literally you were 906 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: his guy, you know, Miles Right? So you know, yeah, 907 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: you know you know how that one went. Yeah. So, 908 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: but but but for somebody else who doesn't know, you 909 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 1: come now of a sudden, you went from lottery pick 910 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: to out of the NBA. Do I go to Europe? 911 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: What do I do? Now? You're playing for him in 912 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: South Bay? What what's that? I mean? Yeah, I know 913 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: it turned out awesome, but you know, he's like I 914 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 1: was like to, I know, but you have to also understand. 915 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: You think your mom was hard on you. You have 916 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: no idea like Miles. Miles like Miles, No, Me and 917 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: Miles are just as competitive and as each other. He's 918 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: the most competitive human being ever exactly. So Miles is 919 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,720 Speaker 1: like hiss first, like his first thing was like standing 920 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: like okay, like okay, like now you're you know, I 921 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: reach out to him. He's like, okay, well hopefully you're 922 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: not on some like you know, Hollywood ship, like sorry 923 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: for cursing, but like some stuff like that, because it's like, 924 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, my team and what I'm trying to do 925 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen here, Like we're gonna win. We're 926 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: gonna win the championship in the gy League, like that's 927 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: my goal. And I'm like I'm like, who, what what 928 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: you think I came here for. I didn't come here 929 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,399 Speaker 1: to depart. I didn't come here to score forty every night, 930 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: like I come here to win, like I want to. 931 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: I want to win. I want to be a part 932 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: of something. I want to be in the rotation. I 933 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: want to be a starter. I want you to know, 934 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: I want to like I want to play. I just 935 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: wanna have fun, like I want to enjoy this ship. 936 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: Like um. So, like the first couple of the first 937 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: couple of practices, it was like we didn't have a 938 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: for a full team, Like my first practice, it was 939 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: like four and four to start with UM. But eventually, 940 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 1: like we figured it out. And I know, right before 941 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: I left, we had a game in Utah. We were 942 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: rolling like we were rolling. That thing was awesome, Like 943 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: it was awesome, like Miles had us like moving like 944 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: an NBA team, Like we were practicing and doing things 945 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: and making these rotations. Like a lot of our guys 946 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: like cam Oliver went to Europe top league in Europe, 947 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: Mason Jones mc McCollum just signed with US at the 948 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: end of the season. Um Paris Bass got two ten 949 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: days with the Phoenix Suns, myself got signed, Shawndy Brown 950 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: got signed to Atlanta Hawks. Huff was a two way 951 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: with US a whole year, you know what I'm saying. 952 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: So it's like we had like seven eight NBA players 953 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: the whole time we first got there. We were all 954 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: in the G League. That was a lot because of 955 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: Miles because he's a you know, obviously know how competitive 956 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,240 Speaker 1: Miles is. He's a he's a hard but like he's 957 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,240 Speaker 1: he's not He's not gonna sit there and take anything 958 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: for granted. So it was a lot, you know, we 959 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: had to like get on his level as a team. Um. 960 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: He challenged all of us, like all of us at 961 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: a time. And I think the best part of it. 962 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: He's a really good dude and he's a player, like 963 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: he's been through this before. So his communication level was 964 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: like on another on another level. Like he was. He 965 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: was very good to all of us, um per man um. 966 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: Where were you when you got when you got called up? Utah? Oh, 967 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: to the to the to the to the Lakers, or 968 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: to the Bulls. Well first to the Bulls. I was 969 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: in Utah. I was getting ready for a game we 970 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: were playing, and my agent called me like we had 971 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: to shoot own. Um I was I wasn't shoot around 972 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: like classic story. And my agent called me like five times. 973 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: I called him back. He was like, yeah, you have 974 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: to get to the airport because you're gonna You're going 975 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 1: to Miami right now. You're you're gonna play for the Bulls. Um. 976 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, awesome. Okay, So how did you 977 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: find out you had COVID? They just told me that 978 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: to told me that to come to the meeting in 979 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: the morning. Wait wait, like did you you land there 980 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: and they tested you? Or how did we landed there? 981 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: We landed there. I had a practice. We landed there. 982 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: I got there before the team. I was there like 983 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: the day before. Um, I got there. We had practice 984 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: and then we had we had so I got there 985 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: there before we had practice. Then after practice, Um, the 986 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: next morning we had shoot around. I went to shoot 987 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: around and then before the game. That's like it was 988 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: like yo, you have to say another test, just staying 989 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: at room, like you know, don't go, don't go on 990 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: the bus to handle their tests. And when the test 991 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: came back around like six o'clock games at seven thirty, 992 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: I was like inconclusive for COVID, for COVID, so I 993 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: couldn't play in the game. And that's how it started. 994 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: Um the whole time, I wasn't. I don't think I 995 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: ever tested positive for COVID. I was just inconclusive in 996 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: different levels. Um, so I never got an opportunity to 997 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: play for the Bulls again. Um the whole time, that's crazy. Um, 998 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: this is a random question. When you go to sign 999 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: with the team on a ten day but you don't 1000 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: play because you have COVID. Did you get paid? Oh 1001 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: for sure, So you're inconclusive for COVID, but you didn't 1002 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: actually test positive, but you didn't get to play, so okay. 1003 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: So and again this is the call your agent, like 1004 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: what's next. It was like it was like it was 1005 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: Russian roulette. Like at that point in time, the COVID 1006 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: like know thing was going around. People were testing out 1007 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and my agent, my agent talking 1008 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: to the NBA about like where my levels are and 1009 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: trying to get like I get clear from the NBA. 1010 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: So I did the whole fourteen days, and it happened 1011 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: to be like I had. I had like two or 1012 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: three teams all the way up until the twenty three. 1013 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: I got out the so on the like I'm sorry, 1014 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: I got out the twenty three. That night. On that morning, 1015 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: I flew home and I went I went Christmas shopping 1016 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: for my daughter. So I went, like I had to 1017 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: workout in the morning because I had worked out in 1018 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: two weeks. So I like I got up at like 1019 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: four am, and I you know, went running on the 1020 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: I went running on the street, went to a shooting workout, 1021 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: then went to a condition to workout, then the still workout. 1022 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: Then I went Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve. So I'm 1023 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: sitting like North Rooms or something like that, and my 1024 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: agent called me again. He's like, how do you feel. 1025 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel great. I just worked out. But 1026 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm like captain because I'm like 1027 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: two weeks. I'm I'm two weeks. Like, I'm like, I 1028 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: feel great because I just got through like a you know, 1029 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: four workouts and like six hours. I feel great. He's like, 1030 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: he's like, do you you feel like you even play tomorrow? 1031 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, we're we're We're where I need 1032 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: to go. He's like, oh, just downtown. I'm like, I'm 1033 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: like for the Lakers. He's like yeah, like Christmas Day. 1034 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah. He's like yeah. I'm like I'm like 1035 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: i'll play. Like cool, let's do it. So I'll call 1036 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: you back. Call me back like five seconds later, like yeah, 1037 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: you're in. It's like I just want to make sure 1038 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: you're okay to play, like you haven't played in a while, 1039 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Like are you good. I'm like, I'm like I'm okay, 1040 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. Um. And the next day like 1041 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was in the I was 1042 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: in the lineup. Um, what's that like? Like, look, you 1043 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: do a lot of things, okay, but walking in room 1044 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: a D will you play with before? But then Lebron's there? Love? 1045 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Huh love? It was love. It was. I remember walking 1046 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: to the locker room, Everyone's like, yo, what's up. Good 1047 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: to see you. Happy you're here, Like let's do it, Like, 1048 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: let's come on, bro, I'm happy you're here. Like it 1049 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: was no like awkward, weird attention. Like I walked in, 1050 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, bro, good to see you. Like we've been 1051 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: seeing you work with the G League, Like you know 1052 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like da, Like you know, we gotta 1053 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's get this one to night and then 1054 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, tomorrow we'll we'll we'll great you in our system. 1055 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: But like, just come in. We're happy to have you. Like, 1056 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: play hard, help us out as much as you can. 1057 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I know it's hard for you, but like it was 1058 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: me and Darren Corson at the time as well, So 1059 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: it's like, come in, do what you can do, but 1060 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll get you in the system and you'll learn 1061 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: a little more. Um. So it was it was all 1062 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: of like it was all amazed and like they gave me, 1063 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: The Lakers gave me every opportunity to be awesome. Um 1064 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 1: from the time I got here, I can say that. 1065 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: But how do you how do you like, how do 1066 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: you go play? If you like literally haven't practiced, what 1067 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: do you do? You just go and hoop? I mean 1068 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: did they tell you like here's a couple of sets 1069 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: real quick, Like what do you do that? I just 1070 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: I just I went out with Phil for like an 1071 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: hour before the game and try to learn as much 1072 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: as I can learn. But I just went out there 1073 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and hoops. Like I've got to James before, so I 1074 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: knew that would be one of my assignments. And Fitz 1075 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: as a coach and me if it's have a little 1076 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: little history and you know, if its trusted me enough, 1077 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: like he came to the game like stand, you don't 1078 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: have to go to James tonight. Like I'm like, let's 1079 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: do it. Let's go. Like whatever you know, whatever's gonna 1080 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: happen is gonna happen. Let's go. Um, So you put 1081 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: me in the game and things just happened like it 1082 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 1: just happened so far, it just happened, like things just happened, 1083 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: as you know. It wasn't nothing like we drew up 1084 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: at all, Like Frank, I just got COVID is like 1085 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 1: it was all, Um, it was a big COVID game. 1086 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for all of us. But 1087 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy because it wasn't that long ago. But you 1088 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: forget like all the assistants got it, you know, so 1089 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: that the players got it. It was. It was that 1090 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: was a crazy stretch. Um, Yeah, when did when did 1091 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: you know you that they were When did you know 1092 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: about the contract? After the game in Brooklyn? How long 1093 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: ago later was this? I mean I saw like three 1094 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: ten days after that that when you get when you 1095 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: get to like day nine, when you get to like 1096 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: day nine and day ten, what's that feeling? Like? I 1097 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: mean at that point I already got cut that year, 1098 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: So like, well, how how worse can it be? Like 1099 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm like, well, if 1100 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna come me, man, I guess I cut me. 1101 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Like like at this point, like I alre't even cut before. 1102 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not like I accept it. It's 1103 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: just like you have to deal with it. Whatever comes 1104 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to you have to do with it. And then when 1105 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: they when they signed you to a two year deal, 1106 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: when did you When did you find out about that? 1107 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: After the game in Brooklyn? So who came up to you, Rob? 1108 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Rob was like, listen, man, like, you know, you've done 1109 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: a good job, and you know, obviously like we want 1110 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to keep you on for another year. Um, 1111 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: we would love to you know, also you know, obviously 1112 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: give you a guarantee for this year, but also next year, 1113 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: we'd love to have the option to sign you for 1114 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: the next year as well. Say less, I don't even 1115 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: know why you even I don't even know why you 1116 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: even came over here and told me that. You just 1117 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: could have just told me to tell me thank you. 1118 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: You could have just just had congratulations. I would have 1119 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: been been okay with that. But the fact that he 1120 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: brought me inside and you know, broke it down to 1121 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: me and gave me a real, like, you know, a 1122 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: real respectful talk. I was really appreciative of that. Um, 1123 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: when did you you know? Because because you were so 1124 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: energetic about it it, maybe it it took you longer. 1125 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: And like there were times really that season, like, all right, 1126 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: they're close, and everybody gets healthy, they'll be straight. And 1127 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: then there was always something somebody hurt. You know, you'd 1128 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: lose a close game. It's always something. When did you 1129 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: know what was going bad when we lost the feelings 1130 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, a week ago or whatever 1131 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,959 Speaker 1: it is. Now, why what was different about that loss? 1132 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: We're filling out, so you always thought you guys would 1133 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: turned around. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think any 1134 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't think any team in the league, especially in 1135 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the Western Conference, would say yeah, I would love the 1136 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 1: legters of in the playing tournament. I would love the 1137 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 1: Lakers to be like the eighth seed or the seventh seed. 1138 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: I would love that for for for us means to everybody, 1139 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: every you got everybody's best shot. Oh for sure, for sure, 1140 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy. When we play, everybody's like, yeah, yeah, that's it. 1141 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: And and it's it's everybody's mom is coming to the 1142 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: game when we play, like you know, it's like, it's ridiculous. 1143 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: It's the Duke. Duke talks about all the time, Kentucky. 1144 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: Kentucky talks all the time. They only store in the 1145 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: court when they beat us. Yeah, everybody's healthy, everybody wants 1146 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: to you know, everybody wants to play hard. Everybody wants to, 1147 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: which is fine, like you know, like I expect that 1148 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: every night from everybody, but it's very weird when it 1149 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: gets to a point, Like I got to a point 1150 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: during the season at some point in time where it 1151 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: was like dang, like because I've never been on a 1152 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: team like this before. We personally and it's like dang, 1153 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, Like guys will be out for two 1154 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: weeks and then we play the Lakers, like let's play 1155 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: like there's a certain person on a certain team that 1156 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: only the whole month, he only played one game that 1157 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: was versus US at home. Uh, the most impressive night 1158 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: playing with Lebron so far. Yeah, man, I can just 1159 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: I can pick last night last time he played. That 1160 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: was impressive. Like, um man, I think it's the six verse. 1161 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: The Warriors was crazy? Was he was? He was he 1162 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 1: telling you guys like, just I got it tonight? Like 1163 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 1: what what is he? What is he like when he's 1164 01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: got it going? Uh? Uh, we've never seen that him 1165 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 1: like it, Like he's he's just a special special athlete. Um, 1166 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: he's so cerebral and he's so got gifted, and he's 1167 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: so talented and he's such a good person. Like it 1168 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: makes his teammates cheer from him. It makes his energy 1169 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: on the court charismic. And then also his challenges takes 1170 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 1: over a game. It like defeats the opponent as well. 1171 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a trifector that you really can't like. 1172 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: It's like a surge. Like it's a surge. It just happens, 1173 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and it's like all the energy goes to him and 1174 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 1: his teammates. Um, if you ever played like two K 1175 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 1: and you get you have your my player and what 1176 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: you get to a point where have a team takeover, 1177 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 1: It's like he's always on team takeover, Like your team 1178 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: take over your teammates. You're on fire and every other 1179 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 1: team is cold. And that's how I felt like they 1180 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: can make a shot. And he was just like his 1181 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: energy was just five and through the court. How can 1182 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: you be a part of changing this thing and turn 1183 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 1: this thing back around? I mean I think, I I 1184 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: think I think for me, I can just keep being 1185 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: myself like, um, I believe I believe that, Um, everyone 1186 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 1: has a has a role and everyone has a place, 1187 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: and I think, um, I'm a positive person, and my 1188 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 1: attentions are only winning, And I think if I can 1189 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 1: bring that to the table, no matter who if I 1190 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: were to come back or want to come back, or 1191 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: whoever comes back, if I were to come back, I 1192 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: think I fit with anybody. There's you know, there's lots 1193 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: of dudes. You mean, you know, when you guys make 1194 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Frank gets so Frank gets fired. What's that 1195 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: locker room? Like, did you guys know? I mean, I 1196 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 1: think most people, I think we we we we knew 1197 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 1: after the game and that that that that to me, 1198 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 1: I think Frank deserved a little better than that, especially 1199 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the way it kind of happened. Um, I think we 1200 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: all have accountability for what happened. Like it was not 1201 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel's fault, but it seems like since he got 1202 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: fired for you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it seems 1203 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: like it's, oh like, let's playment on Frank. But like 1204 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Frankie and his staff like they did nothing but help us, 1205 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: Like they did nothing but help us, Like we all 1206 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: could have been better, but that we did we we 1207 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: did nothing that we never at no point in time 1208 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: did we did we ever not try? Yes, we were wrong. 1209 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: We all were wrong, players and coaches wise front of 1210 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: everybody because we lost, right, But no, like Frank Vogel 1211 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: never even even the last game like like he's drawn up, 1212 01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: he's drawing up and play for us to win the 1213 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: game and to get to overtime. Like it's thirty three 1214 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 1: seconds left, we're down five or forty five, things that 1215 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: we're down five, He's like, we're gonna win this game. 1216 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna win this game. Like we're gonna win this game. 1217 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: And to me, like that epitomizes like him as a 1218 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: like he's not he never quit. He's not a quitter, 1219 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 1: like not any point in time, like we go in 1220 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the film session we watched even losing like we're trying 1221 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 1: to figure out how to win, we're not eating. It 1222 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 1: was never no pity. He never gave us away out. 1223 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 1: He never didn't call people out like we we did 1224 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: everything we could do. Um, we just weren't. We didn't. 1225 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 1: We weren't good enough. If you were going to give 1226 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: somebody advice, who's coming in the league this year and 1227 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: they played a year in college just like you. It 1228 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: has been all everything. Dala's all American, you know, Christian 1229 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: college coming the league, what's the best advice to give 1230 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: to somebody who is your age? You better strop your 1231 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: boots in and get your get your ship together, because 1232 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: these are some lines in here. There's some really good 1233 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: basketball players. These guys are just as just as committed 1234 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 1: as you are. These guys have been more commuted for 1235 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: longer than you have been. You just shot your boots 1236 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,600 Speaker 1: in and get ready for some first some controversy. You 1237 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: get ready for some for some ups, ups and downs, 1238 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 1: and get ready, get ready to get ready, to get 1239 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: ready to fight for yourself because you're gonna figure out 1240 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: who you are as a player when you get to 1241 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 1: the When you get to the NBA, you're six seven 1242 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: guard every position? Right, take Lebron out of who's the 1243 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: hardest gutter guard? For you? I mean, go down the list. 1244 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Then Lebron's out. Who's next? Yeah? You tell you, tell me, 1245 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 1: you tell me Kevin? Yeah, what do you do there? 1246 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: You just can't be tribing physicalism? I don't know, I 1247 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I'd try a different things every time. I 1248 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:05,520 Speaker 1: try to deny, you know, try everything every time. Um, 1249 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: you can't do know him all right? Who's the sneakiest? 1250 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows about him. I'm sure Jannest is hard 1251 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: because he's just arms and legs and strong, and you know, 1252 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: the whole court spread out. But outside the guys that 1253 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: we know, right, there's the guys that everybody knows. James, 1254 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: him Braun, Who's the guy who people wouldn't think, But like, bro, 1255 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: this guy is tough. C J. What about him? He 1256 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: never has he never isn't a place where you can 1257 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: stop him. He keeps his dribble, he navigates the court. 1258 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: He it's almost like he just walked with Like if 1259 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 1: it's sure, if you can just walk with the ball everywhere, 1260 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: how good you would be. Like the ball is just 1261 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: a string to your body. You just walk with the 1262 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: ball everywhere. When when you want to stop, the ball 1263 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,840 Speaker 1: stops with you. When you want to go, the ball 1264 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: goes with you. Like c J. Like he has the 1265 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 1: ball and string. He just does what he wants. Mark, 1266 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: He does what he wants, stops when he wants, goes 1267 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 1: when he wants, make shots when he wants. You can 1268 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 1: play good defense and he will still make the shot. 1269 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys in the world, like Jason Tatium, 1270 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: like Jalen Brown, like I can I can go off 1271 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: on a lot of different guys that people don't I think, 1272 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: don't get the respect that they deserve. But just recently, 1273 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: obviously having a little HEATEDI games versus these guys, um, 1274 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 1: c JS stands out. I feel like everybody gets just 1275 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,640 Speaker 1: do credit, but CJ gets a little less credit than 1276 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I think he deserves. Fair Enough, if you were to 1277 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 1: give somebody advice who's parents dyed cancer cancer doesn't don't 1278 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 1: have to be an athlete. But you're you're younger in 1279 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: your twenties, your parents passed away. Now you're now a 1280 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 1: couple of years later, Well, how would you advise them 1281 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,800 Speaker 1: to cope with that? Don't fight? If don't fight, don't 1282 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 1: fight it by yourself. Be humble, Be humble enough to 1283 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,799 Speaker 1: understand that you need help. That's not cocky. Be humble 1284 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: enough to understand that you need help. Um, it's traumatizing, Like, 1285 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: don't get help. Go talk about with someone else other 1286 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: than your family and other than yourself. In five years, 1287 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: where are you? Mm hmm in five years, I'm probably 1288 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: a pillar of a franchise and the n b A. 1289 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: How do you get to where you shoot more consistently? 1290 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Work ethics, there's a mental aspect of it though, too, right, Yeah, 1291 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: there is, there is a mental aspect of it. But mentally, 1292 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: I mean mentally you got if you ain't. If you 1293 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: ain't mentally they're already you're not gonna get there. But 1294 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 1: the work ethic puts you over. Has there ever been 1295 01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: has there been a moment where you thought, maybe I 1296 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: just don't want to do this. Maybe I never even 1297 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 1: getting cut, even with getting sent down, even with switching teams, 1298 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 1: switching towns, never who who talks the most ship? Uh no? 1299 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Deep book? Really yeah? Wow. Well, he's like he's like 1300 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: he's like a samurai. He's like a samurai story. He 1301 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: cuts you, He cuts you deep, like what Joelan beans 1302 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: good too though. Yeah, he's a big goofy fucker. Yeah 1303 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 1: he's good too. Though. He's like he's like he's liked 1304 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,479 Speaker 1: you making your little ass out of here. He's a freak. 1305 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 1: He's a freak. He told me, he told me. Issue. 1306 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, you know, I'm playing I'm playing 1307 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the switch five right, Yeah, so he's like, maybe get 1308 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: your little ass out of here. Man, it's the out 1309 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: side of here, man, you know what I'm saying. I'm 1310 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 1: like I'm like, bro, hey, it'll be actually you doing tonight. 1311 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm about at your gass tonight. He's He's like, 1312 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, you get your little ass about 1313 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: of here. Man. I ain't having that, and he started 1314 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: reinging his head, winging his hand over his head. He said, 1315 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,520 Speaker 1: throw this. He didn't play no games, straight post ups, 1316 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: straight block Mike, throw it to me, let me, let 1317 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 1: me guard him. And it's funny. But what what is that? 1318 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: What's it like in the locker room when they were 1319 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 1: booing you guys? I mean, look, you grew up in 1320 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: so Caw. You know people love the Lakers. I don't know. 1321 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't like the Lakers. Fans bood this year you 1322 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 1: got booed. Yeah, who got booed? The Lakers did? That's when, 1323 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 1: that's when. That's when mellows Yeah, a little bit at home. Yeah, 1324 01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I into that. You've been I've been 1325 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: out there, who but not even hearing it? Yeah, I didn't. 1326 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't notice that they were cheering for us when 1327 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: we were almost out versus Denver our last game at home, 1328 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 1: or a second the last game at home, they were 1329 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 1: on their feet the whole the whole fourth quarter. So 1330 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't you know, they might have been doing because 1331 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 1: we were playing bad at the time, but they weren't 1332 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 1: doing us like we were bad. They didn't blew us. 1333 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 1: They might have been, you know, down up a lot 1334 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 1: of points, but they weren't doing They weren't boing like 1335 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 1: you know, like that who's the person? Who's the person 1336 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: like bron has like when Stafford showed up for Aaron 1337 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Donald show up like he gives him love, right, But 1338 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 1: there's there's like who's who at Laker games? Now you 1339 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 1: are a Laker? Has there been anybody who you looked? 1340 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: You're on the bench and you're looking in the front 1341 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: run You're like, damn, I can't believe it, said Denzel. 1342 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: I say it was up to Denzel, like, is there 1343 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 1: somebody who you've been on the bench, Like, man, I 1344 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 1: gotta meet that dude. I guess being from l A, 1345 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: I guess there's been nobody. Um the guy who I 1346 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: like to see how the games is. Uh. Floyd's always 1347 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 1: like he's always super cool and just sits there and 1348 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 1: chills and enjoys him. So he roles, Indeed, he roles. Indeed, 1349 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 1: he said there he sit there, he sits there just 1350 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: with my one of my friends, Jonah. He just sits there. Um. 1351 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 1: But he's he's always. He's always you know you guys 1352 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 1: a little security guard and stuff like that. Um, but 1353 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: he's always. He's always a pleasure to watch because in 1354 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 1: the summertime, when you see him, he he'll tell you 1355 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 1: about how you played in the season because he's watching. 1356 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: They watch plays, attention everything. Stayn man, I really appreciate 1357 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,639 Speaker 1: your time, really really appreciate you. I appreciate you hopefully. 1358 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 1: And what you're gonna do is you're gonna hit me. 1359 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: I told I told my a c L hooping last summer. 1360 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 1: So I'm just now back, but I'm gonna I'm coming 1361 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: when you're at Modern Day this song so hit me. 1362 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 1: You just need somebody to feed you at first, and 1363 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: then when we started playing. That's kind of all I 1364 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 1: do anyway. I was Rondo before Rondo No No No, 1365 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 1: and except RHNDO wins shooting conta, I just yeah, I 1366 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: get you. I'll set you up. You'll be in a 1367 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,839 Speaker 1: good shape. Sounds good, man, it sounds good. I appreciate 1368 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 1: you as well. All right, man, thanks you have a 1369 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: great night, and thanks for joining me. I told you 1370 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty good, right did I? I do not lie 1371 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: to you? Did lie to you? Um? Ryan to the 1372 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Doug otleap Show Daily three Eastern, twelve three Pacific on 1373 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Trader, the I Heart Radio app as well. Um, 1374 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you so much for listening. Reminder 1375 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to download, subscribe, write a review and rate this bad boy. 1376 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm Doug GOTTLIEB thanks to Stanley Johnson. This is all 1377 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: ball