1
00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,320
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson show

2
00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,720
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

3
00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,639
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

4
00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson, and

5
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,040
Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And I'm Mad.

6
00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400
Speaker 2: As I mentioned in the previous segment there at the end,

7
00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to now that the Steelers have

8
00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,800
Speaker 2: re signed Mason Rudolph, I thought we'd take a look

9
00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,120
Speaker 2: across the league at some of the backups and situations

10
00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,800
Speaker 2: in quarterback rooms around the league. And you know, no

11
00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,000
Speaker 2: matter what we've talked about this before. We you know,

12
00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,960
Speaker 2: the rankings of the starting quarterbacks and things of that nature.

13
00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,920
Speaker 2: We've gone over those and where can he Pickett ranks

14
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,280
Speaker 2: in that hierarchy. But I think when you start looking

15
00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,560
Speaker 2: at the two and three, boy, do the Steelers have

16
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,279
Speaker 2: a big edge here.

17
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Huge. So I do want to go around the league.

18
00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600
Speaker 1: But I'm going to preface this too is I'm sure

19
00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,559
Speaker 1: listeners have tired of this story. But every year about

20
00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,440
Speaker 1: this time of year, when I was at ESPN for

21
00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,880
Speaker 1: ten straight years, when there's what wasn't much content, Hey,

22
00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Matt ranked the thirty two quarterback, the backup quarterbacks one

23
00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,520
Speaker 1: to thirty two. I hated it. I mean it was

24
00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,520
Speaker 1: bad because, first of all, it's hard some teams you

25
00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know exactly who the starter, who the backup is,

26
00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,760
Speaker 1: is the rookie starter or whatever. But I mean the

27
00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,319
Speaker 1: problem why I hated it was once you get past ten,

28
00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:33,560
Speaker 1: it's like.

29
00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:40,039
Speaker 2: Junk junkers versus upside. You know, the guys are all terrible.

30
00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: The Allen's not named Josh rank them like, I mean,

31
00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480
Speaker 1: they're all the same. They all stink, you know. I

32
00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,280
Speaker 1: mean it's I can't win with any of these guys.

33
00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Colt McCoy's ten, and he's terrible, you know

34
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, so it's eye opening when you

35
00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,320
Speaker 1: actually see it on paper. And as we talked about

36
00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 1: last segment, having three or having any quarterback that can

37
00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,760
Speaker 1: even get you out of a game, let alone start

38
00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,720
Speaker 1: and win, is an asset. And I thought the draft

39
00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,000
Speaker 1: sort of showed us this too. So I thought the

40
00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,919
Speaker 1: non young Stroud, Richardson, Levis Hooker quarterbacks would go late,

41
00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, sixth round. Well, there was a crazy run

42
00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,800
Speaker 1: on them in the fourth. Jake Hayner, Stetson Bennett, Aidan O'Connell, Clayton, Tune,

43
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson, Robinson, Sean Clifford who can't play at all,

44
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,720
Speaker 1: darn Hall. These guys all got drafted in the fourth

45
00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,880
Speaker 1: and fifth rounds because the league said sixty nine starting

46
00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks played last year, and everyone's sinking, Oh, they trying

47
00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,320
Speaker 1: to get to the next rock party. No, they're trying

48
00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,200
Speaker 1: to get the next Mason Rudolph who can get them

49
00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,360
Speaker 1: out of a game that you know that is better

50
00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,120
Speaker 1: than is cheap?

51
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,440
Speaker 2: Is cheap, and I think cheap the cheap part is.

52
00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,600
Speaker 2: And I wonder how many of these teams this year

53
00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,960
Speaker 2: keep three quarterbacks because that's not and we've seen that

54
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,600
Speaker 2: trending the other direction. Oh, we're just gonna keep two. Yeah,

55
00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,359
Speaker 2: to the point where about half the teams in the

56
00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,120
Speaker 2: league we're only keeping two quarterbacks. I don't know if

57
00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,040
Speaker 2: that happens now, right.

58
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the bigger practice squads make it.

59
00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280
Speaker 2: Well, the fact you could call two guys up every

60
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,239
Speaker 2: game and expand your game day roster to fifty five,

61
00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,360
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you have three quarterbacks on your roster?

62
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, No, I do think there'll be more

63
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,679
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting paychecks this year than there were last year.

64
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,799
Speaker 2: So let's just we'll start with the AFC North since

65
00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,040
Speaker 2: that's where the Steelers play with the Ravens. This according,

66
00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,240
Speaker 2: this all all according to our lads. You got Lamar Jackson,

67
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,440
Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley, Anthony Brown, Nolan Henderson.

68
00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,440
Speaker 1: So do you want to do it this way? Like,

69
00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,240
Speaker 1: let's take the starters out of the equation?

70
00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 2: Okay?

71
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Would you trade Steelers with tax? You know what I mean?

72
00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's no way. I'm not sure. I don't

73
00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,000
Speaker 2: care if Tyler Huntley was named to the Pro Bowl

74
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,120
Speaker 2: last year or not. He's not a Pro Bowl player.

75
00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,040
Speaker 2: In fact, he stinks.

76
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,080
Speaker 1: I think Mitch is better than him. I think the league,

77
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 1: the league showed.

78
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,240
Speaker 2: Us that this this offseason, Tyler Huntley was a restricted

79
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,960
Speaker 2: free agent and would have cost nothing for anybody to

80
00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,839
Speaker 2: sign exactly. I mean, nobody signed him in a quarterback

81
00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,479
Speaker 2: starved league, nobody signed him. He stinks.

82
00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, people out there with fifty one hundred thousand

83
00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,560
Speaker 1: Twitter followers do this for a living, suggested just let

84
00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Lamar walk and use that money on other things and

85
00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,599
Speaker 1: make Huntley your starter.

86
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,000
Speaker 2: There's not much of a drop off. Yeah, okay, Yeah, right,

87
00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,520
Speaker 2: he stinks. So no, I would not trade the Steelers

88
00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,040
Speaker 2: quarterback room for that one.

89
00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,720
Speaker 1: And this is not even the worst quarterback backup situations

90
00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,000
Speaker 1: in the league in Baltimore, it's not even the worst.

91
00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,799
Speaker 2: One in the division, right right, right, right right, Okay,

92
00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,480
Speaker 2: So moving on to the Bengals, Trevor Simeon and Jake

93
00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,480
Speaker 2: Browning so.

94
00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,520
Speaker 1: Like me and to me is kind of like I

95
00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,920
Speaker 1: talked about to start the segment, like he's better than

96
00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,800
Speaker 1: the Allen's they had, whatever Allen they had.

97
00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,520
Speaker 2: It's not Josh, but he's a fifteenish I'd say.

98
00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,640
Speaker 1: He's fifteen ish, but he's not even thirty two. And

99
00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 1: he's Trevor freakin Simeon. I mean, he's not.

100
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,080
Speaker 2: Good that nobody's nobody was banging Trevor Simeon's door down.

101
00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade the Steelers room for that. I wouldn't

102
00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120
Speaker 2: trade I wouldn't trade Mason Rudolph right now for Trevor Simeon.

103
00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,760
Speaker 1: I was about to say the exact same thing.

104
00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,719
Speaker 2: I would not either like Trevor Simeon, there's nothing there

105
00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,240
Speaker 2: I mean to give the chances to start, and he's stunk.

106
00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,360
Speaker 1: Frankly, since he should have signed Rudolph.

107
00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever, Yeah, I don't get it for the Browns

108
00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,440
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, Dorian Thompson Robinson, and Kellen Mond.

109
00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,600
Speaker 1: So not all backup quarterback situations are created equal. I

110
00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,039
Speaker 1: really like the Dorian Thompson Robinson pick because your starter

111
00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,359
Speaker 1: is a seventy million dollar guy. You know, they can't

112
00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,480
Speaker 1: have a TRABISI I mean, this can't so for the

113
00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520
Speaker 1: way they're structured.

114
00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,840
Speaker 2: I like their room.

115
00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200
Speaker 1: And we mentioned all those draftable dudes, Clayton Tune, all

116
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,839
Speaker 1: those guys. They at least have upside. Their story isn't written,

117
00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Simeons story is written.

118
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,239
Speaker 2: You know it's written, and you're in the final chapter.

119
00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,680
Speaker 2: You're wrapping things up.

120
00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960
Speaker 1: But no way would I trade the Browns backups for

121
00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But I understand how they're doing it, you

122
00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:31,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

123
00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, there's at least a plan in place. So

124
00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,280
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Steelers have the best backup situation

125
00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,160
Speaker 2: in the AFC North.

126
00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560
Speaker 1: And spoiler, it might be the best in the league

127
00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:43,640
Speaker 1: very well.

128
00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Might well move on to the AFC East. For the Bills.

129
00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,080
Speaker 2: Behind Josh Allen is Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley.

130
00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, like Matt Barkley is still getting a page,

131
00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,799
Speaker 1: which is amazing. What's he ten years in never plays

132
00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,040
Speaker 1: makes him over a million dollars a year. I mean,

133
00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,760
Speaker 1: holy spokes.

134
00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 2: And Kyle Allen stinks he's.

135
00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,120
Speaker 1: One of the Allens. I don't remember their first name.

136
00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:07,440
Speaker 3: Guys.

137
00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, wouldn't trade that one mm hm for

138
00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,880
Speaker 2: the for the Dolphins. And this one's just amazing to me. Yeah,

139
00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,800
Speaker 2: Mike White, Skyler Thompson, James Blackman. If Mike if Mike

140
00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,840
Speaker 2: White had started for the Seattle Seahawks those five or

141
00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,640
Speaker 2: six games over the last two years as a spots starter,

142
00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 2: does anybody give a flying crap about Mike White?

143
00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:37,600
Speaker 1: Right?

144
00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,400
Speaker 2: And but no, he he played New York and so

145
00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,960
Speaker 2: you know he did win. He didn't get him in

146
00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,240
Speaker 2: the end zone. Okay, he threw for three hundred yards,

147
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 2: big deal.

148
00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he had a four hundred yard game when

149
00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,720
Speaker 1: everyone learned who he was. You know, I gotta pick

150
00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,520
Speaker 1: him up in fantasy. I mean, he's the Jets have

151
00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,800
Speaker 1: found the next Tom Brady, you know. I'm mean all

152
00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,560
Speaker 1: this obscene stuff up. And if you recall that was

153
00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,440
Speaker 1: against the Bears defense that had just traded Rokwan and

154
00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,400
Speaker 1: Quinn had no talent whatsoever, and he played a good game. Great,

155
00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 1: But to the I'm not I mean by no means

156
00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,360
Speaker 1: why saying Mike White, Oh, the Dolphins are set, He's

157
00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,960
Speaker 1: still one of the better backups that we're going to

158
00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,640
Speaker 1: talk about is I mean.

159
00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is better, and I mean neither one of

160
00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,240
Speaker 2: us love Teddy Bridgewater.

161
00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little shocked that they didn't do that route, but.

162
00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080
Speaker 2: I'll take Teddy Bridgewater as my backup.

163
00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Especially with to his injury history.

164
00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, you're you're a team that is in

165
00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,760
Speaker 2: it to win it. Mm hm, given the trades that

166
00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,240
Speaker 2: you've made, given the money that you're paying out, and

167
00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna go into this season behind a quarterback who

168
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:51,120
Speaker 2: contemplated retirement in the off season because of concussion issues.

169
00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160
Speaker 2: With Mike White, that's what you're gonna that's your plan.

170
00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,600
Speaker 2: And it's almost like, if you remember that the situation

171
00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,400
Speaker 2: in the Batman movie where the the uh Wayne Enterprises

172
00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,960
Speaker 2: employee was gonna was gonna blackmail Bruce Wayne. He said,

173
00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,320
Speaker 2: you and Morgan Freeman's character sitting here and says, okay,

174
00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,440
Speaker 2: so your premise is that your multi billion dollar boss

175
00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,840
Speaker 2: is is Batman who works outside of the and your

176
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,320
Speaker 2: idea is that you're going to blackmail this guy, and

177
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,520
Speaker 2: you think that's a good idea.

178
00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 1: Now you're going to blackmail Logan Roy, who also is

179
00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,959
Speaker 1: the best MMA fighter in the world.

180
00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't get it.

181
00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 1: And who is not making Watson money yet?

182
00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,160
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

183
00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,120
Speaker 1: He's cheap signed Bridge one year deal or somebody like that.

184
00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 2: You know, I don't get it. Not my team. I

185
00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't trade the Steelers room for that one.

186
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, The Patriots have.

187
00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:02,040
Speaker 2: Bailey Zappi, Trace McSorley, and Mike pursued a favorite Malie Cunningham.

188
00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So Zappi's a clear too, and maybe we'll

189
00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,280
Speaker 1: give him. He's not for me, trust me. I mean

190
00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,840
Speaker 1: he's might well very honest. I mean he may even

191
00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,560
Speaker 1: be Duck Hodges.

192
00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,720
Speaker 2: He might be Duck Dodges.

193
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,679
Speaker 1: Yes, but in the world of backups, you could do

194
00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot worse.

195
00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,679
Speaker 2: Trace mc sorely stinks so right right? Uh So, no,

196
00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:30,560
Speaker 2: that's a no for the Jets. Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle,

197
00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Chris Streveler.

198
00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean no, A's awful as Wilson's been If

199
00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,360
Speaker 1: if I had to do the ESPN rankings, I would

200
00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,760
Speaker 1: probably put him high because maybe his book isn't written

201
00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,719
Speaker 1: yet maybe, I mean, but boy, he's been hideous.

202
00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tim Boyle Chris Treveler right right, Yeah, Yeah,

203
00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,360
Speaker 2: And they wouldn't make the Steelers uh in the AFC

204
00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,719
Speaker 2: South for the Houston Texans. You got Davis Mills in

205
00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,480
Speaker 2: case Keenum.

206
00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 1: That's really good.

207
00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,800
Speaker 2: That's a really good room. I would trade the Steelers

208
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,520
Speaker 2: room for it. But that's a really I mean, there's

209
00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,440
Speaker 2: there's some experience in that room.

210
00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Mills's story might not be totally written yet,

211
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,199
Speaker 1: you know, like, Okay, I may think it is. I mean,

212
00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,720
Speaker 1: I think it's basically written. It's not an award winning novel,

213
00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,360
Speaker 1: but it's no he may have a Gardner Minshew career

214
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,959
Speaker 1: where Ryan Fitzpatrick career.

215
00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that would be one that's as comparable to

216
00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,800
Speaker 2: what the Steelers have.

217
00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got three NFL quarterbacks.

218
00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,199
Speaker 2: I still like the Steelers better, Yes, but.

219
00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000
Speaker 1: I would take Trubisky over both their backups.

220
00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. For the Colts. Right now, they list Gardner

221
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080
Speaker 2: Minshew as the starter, which is probably going to be

222
00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,000
Speaker 2: the case to start the season, So it's Anthony Richardson

223
00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,920
Speaker 2: and Sam Ellinger.

224
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Minshew the backup though. I mean, if

225
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,280
Speaker 1: you draft the first round quarterback, whoever, the incumbent should

226
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,760
Speaker 1: be called the backup, you know what I mean.

227
00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,320
Speaker 2: I just I'm based on what they're saying, and they

228
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,440
Speaker 2: have no plans to start him out of the gate.

229
00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: So I mean that's what makes the writing the article hard.

230
00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040
Speaker 1: Is like, for the sake of the conversation, I would

231
00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 1: call it Minshew because yeah, I'll trade Trubiski and Rudolph

232
00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,680
Speaker 1: for the fourth pick in the draft and see what

233
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,760
Speaker 1: happens in his life. But I mean, I still think that.

234
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,320
Speaker 2: If we're basically on what they are right now, a

235
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,320
Speaker 2: guy who has never played in the NFL got talent.

236
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,640
Speaker 2: There's no doubt he's never played a game in the

237
00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,679
Speaker 2: NFL versus guys who have. Even if it's you know

238
00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,720
Speaker 2: the track. Put it this way, both both Mitch Trubisky

239
00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,920
Speaker 2: and Mason Rudolph have winning records as starters in the NFL.

240
00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,600
Speaker 2: So I would get the argument that, oh, I take

241
00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,199
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, but Sam Elliger's involved in that.

242
00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,520
Speaker 1: As well, right rights not good?

243
00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,560
Speaker 2: He stinks.

244
00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean clouds. This though, is would I rather win

245
00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,839
Speaker 1: a game with Anthony Richardson or mister Bisky? Right now? Trubisky?

246
00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,480
Speaker 1: But I can't trade Mitch Trubisky for a first round pick.

247
00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,600
Speaker 1: I can trade Anthony Richardson for he's worth.

248
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,400
Speaker 2: More, right, right?

249
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

250
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,840
Speaker 2: But if if my starter goes down and I got

251
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,480
Speaker 2: to play four games, which one do I feel better

252
00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,480
Speaker 2: about today?

253
00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,640
Speaker 1: It's the stealer. Yeah, that's why I would put Minshew

254
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,760
Speaker 1: as a backup, because I know the plan is for

255
00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Richardson to be the starter, whether it is on an

256
00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,480
Speaker 1: opening day or not.

257
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's have the conversation. Then would you

258
00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,480
Speaker 2: tap Minshew over? Basically, it's Minshew for Trubisky Rudolph because

259
00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,120
Speaker 2: Ellinger Ellinger doesn't. Ellinger's awful.

260
00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,160
Speaker 1: He's fourth by a mile. I'm a big Minshew fan,

261
00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,200
Speaker 1: so Rudolph would be third. But he's way better than Ellinger.

262
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040
Speaker 1: So I give the Steelers the nod. I'm not sure

263
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,559
Speaker 1: who one and two are. I think they're very comparable.

264
00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I think that. I think the Colts

265
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,520
Speaker 2: told us a lot, though by not maybe the even

266
00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,320
Speaker 2: the league told us a little bit about what it

267
00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,440
Speaker 2: feels about Minshew.

268
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,839
Speaker 1: Oh he's a placeholder.

269
00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and that that's what he's viewed as now,

270
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,920
Speaker 2: much the same way that the Steelers viewed Mitch Trubisky.

271
00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a similar situation to a year ago Steeler plan.

272
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

273
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

274
00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,640
Speaker 2: The Jaguars behind Trevor Lawrence is CJ. Bethard and somebody

275
00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,760
Speaker 2: named Nathan Rourke.

276
00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,200
Speaker 1: I would just say, I don't even know, no relation

277
00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:31,760
Speaker 1: to Mickey.

278
00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,600
Speaker 2: I think I had never heard of that guy.

279
00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,320
Speaker 1: That's about as bad as it gets.

280
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,720
Speaker 2: C J. Bethard is not good.

281
00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,640
Speaker 1: No, his grandfather was a good GM, but he's still

282
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,320
Speaker 1: in the league.

283
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

284
00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Titans, that's another tough one.

285
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,920
Speaker 2: Will Levis and Malik Willis.

286
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how to judge that.

287
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't either. I didn't love what well, first of all,

288
00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,840
Speaker 2: I didn't love Levis as a prospect me either.

289
00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,280
Speaker 1: Round I give them.

290
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,480
Speaker 2: I look at Willis much the same way I kind

291
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,680
Speaker 2: of looked at Richardson, although Richard's a much better athlete. Yeah,

292
00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,400
Speaker 2: but the Upstate you know, you're drafting those guys on potential, right,

293
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,280
Speaker 2: more so than what they did on the field.

294
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,680
Speaker 1: They told us a lot about what they think of

295
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,840
Speaker 1: Willis down the stretch when they were playing Dabbs and

296
00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,000
Speaker 1: trading up for Leven. Yeah, Willis does not look like

297
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,840
Speaker 1: a hit or is a year away still from being

298
00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,560
Speaker 1: a year away. But in terms of this conversation, that's

299
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,960
Speaker 1: a promising quarterback backup room.

300
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but much like the situation with Gardner Minshew.

301
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,200
Speaker 2: At some point this season, will Levis replaces Ryan Tannehill, probably.

302
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560
Speaker 1: But it's not Simeon. It's not one of the Allens

303
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, but you know.

304
00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, moving on to the Broncos, Jared Stidham's Arrett Jarrett

305
00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,239
Speaker 2: Guantarnio or how Guarantino Ortano and Ben Denucci.

306
00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen very little of Stidham, but it

307
00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,400
Speaker 1: wasn't bad, and the second free agency opened they went

308
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,000
Speaker 1: got him and paid him a decent box. So that's

309
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360
Speaker 1: a top ten backup situation. The third guys.

310
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 2: Are third and fourth guys are awful.

311
00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I trade Stidham for Trubisky though.

312
00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:35,240
Speaker 2: No. Uh for the Chiefs. Blaine Gabbert, Shane Bouchelle and

313
00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:41,400
Speaker 2: Chris Aloticon pretty bad. Yeah, real can't believe Blaine Gabbert

314
00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,360
Speaker 2: still getting a paycheck.

315
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,240
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking too, Like this guy still

316
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,080
Speaker 1: has is getting played. That's amazing.

317
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:54,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, the Raiders Brian Hoyer, Aidan O'Connell and

318
00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,720
Speaker 2: Chase Garber's Brian Hoyer. Yeah did you or did you not?

319
00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,680
Speaker 2: Rerup Bryan were in college.

320
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,360
Speaker 1: He wanted to be a pit panther and we took

321
00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 1: black up that he was a very good player at

322
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,680
Speaker 1: Saint Ignacius. He was also a good pitcher. Wow. I mean,

323
00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,679
Speaker 1: he's obviously buddies with Belichick and Brady and the Patriot guys,

324
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,840
Speaker 1: and seems to have a job being the coach player

325
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,240
Speaker 1: coach for as long as he wants. So they draft

326
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 1: O'Connor hoping that he can be the next Hoyer, you know, Oh.

327
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,400
Speaker 2: My god, Wow, I'm looking here at the Chargers.

328
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520
Speaker 1: Oh I don't even know their backup That would be

329
00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,960
Speaker 1: the great Easton Stick Yeah yeah, yeah, backed up by

330
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,800
Speaker 1: Max Dugan.

331
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah late, are you kidding me? And they're not paying

332
00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,200
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert yet? Yeah right right, that's criminal.

333
00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,200
Speaker 1: That's really criminal. Like last year and the year before,

334
00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,119
Speaker 1: you know, like give me at least a Chad Henny

335
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,640
Speaker 1: or a Hoyer or somebody that can at least mentor

336
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: the young guy or you know, give me something that's like.

337
00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,320
Speaker 2: That would be a landing spot for Teddy Bridgewater had

338
00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 2: they not tried to kill Teddy Bridgewater a few years

339
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,880
Speaker 2: ago by sticking a needle into his into his lung.

340
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 1: That was Tyrod Taylor. That was Tyro Taye.

341
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Tyrod Taylor either way, So Teddy Bridge or

342
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 2: I was talking to Tyrod Sady, you don't want to

343
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 2: go there's the backup. They tried to kill me.

344
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,120
Speaker 1: That's a dangerous job.

345
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,160
Speaker 2: That's why their backups name is Easton Stick because they're

346
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna stick something in his lung. That's that's a backup situation, situation.

347
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 2: How could they not have been interested in Mason Rudolph.

348
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 1: That whole division is bad.

349
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yeah, terrible. BA we'll flip over to the NFC.

350
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 2: Uh So for Dallas, you got Cooper Rush and Will Greer.

351
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush might be in my top ten. I mean again,

352
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,679
Speaker 1: some of these are such small sample size. But he

353
00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 1: didn't stink for four.

354
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 2: Games, instinct, right, Will Grier does?

355
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 1: Where's constructs? He's still in the league.

356
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll still I'll still take for Whiskey over

357
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush.

358
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean Rush versus Rudolph the conversation, not versus whisky.

359
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. For the Giants, it's Tyrod Taylor and Tommy DeVito.

360
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito played about nine years in college.

361
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know anything about him.

362
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: He started at Syracuse. Seemed like he played like nine

363
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: games at Syracuse against Pitt. I'm just then last year

364
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: I think he was at Illinois.

365
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: That his picture him as a young Danny de Vito,

366
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: and now they're about the same size. So Tyron's the

367
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: top ten guy. Again, as far as backups go, is

368
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: not awful, right r right, good movement guy kind of

369
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 1: mimics Jones. Okay, I can live with that. I'd over him. Uh.

370
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: The ego Marcus Mariota, Ian Book and Tanner McKee.

371
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: They usually actually pay a guy. I wonder if they

372
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: still will with the Hurts contract going forward, because you know,

373
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: Minshew was a decent pickup. I mean, Mariota versus Mitch

374
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 1: is about the same. I'll be honest. I liked I've

375
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 1: given Mariota too much of the benefit of the doubt

376
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 1: over his career.

377
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean that I think the league told us a

378
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: lot about Mariota.

379
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: Of the guys that like started the season as a

380
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,239
Speaker 1: starting opening day quarterback, he was about as bad as

381
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: there was last year.

382
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: He was pretty bad. Yeah. Yeah, Washington, this is actually

383
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: one's that I actually like. Jacoby Brissette Jake from Tim Demurrett. Yes.

384
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 2: The problem with that one is is their starter. Jacoby

385
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: Brissett is gonna be Washington starter at some point this year.

386
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: I would bet. Yeah. I mean I think that's a

387
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: true quarterback battle, you know, and if it's tie, they'll

388
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: give it to the young guy.

389
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might. Persette might be their starter from day one.

390
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: I think he's the I think he's one of the

391
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: best thirty two on the planet. Yeah, so that one's

392
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: better than the Steelers to me?

393
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: Is it? Though? If Howell is the backup? No, probably not?

394
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's played he's only played one game, right,

395
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still intrigued with the guy, and as

396
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: are they. But Brissette has a lot of value in

397
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: this conversation to me.

398
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Chicago PJ. Walker, Nathan Peterman and tightest Tyson Bassion.

399
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: Nathan Peterman still getting an.

400
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: NFL check, right, And these guys aren't even on the

401
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: rookie Wheels anymore. That's horrible. Yeah, I mean, especially with

402
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: a running quarterback. I mean I mentioned the Eagles spend

403
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: money on a backup quarterback because their quarterback takes a beating.

404
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean Field is gonna take up beating.

405
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

406
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: Either the most caps based in the league go get teddy.

407
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: For the Detroit Lions, Nate Sudfeld, Hendon Hooker, Adrian Martinez.

408
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: It's awful. But if it's awful for Hooker, probably want

409
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: to be active with you know.

410
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: That's the problem with that room is that Hooker's probably

411
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 2: doesn't play much this year, if at all. So if

412
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: Jared Goff goes down, Nate Sudfeld is not winning many

413
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: like all this hope that the Lions have goes out

414
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: the window, right right, Nate Sudfeld doesn't win you any games.

415
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: This is where it screws things up, though, Like you'd

416
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: like to have Hendon Hooker in your room though, I

417
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: mean like he had, oh yeah yeah, but he doesn't

418
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: help me for a while.

419
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: This takes us two what I believe is the worst

420
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: quarterback room in the league, the Green Bay Packers.

421
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Trying to think of their backups even are.

422
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is your starter, Sean Clifford and Danny at

423
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: Eitling Etling.

424
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: I thought Clifford was the worst draft pick of the

425
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: entire draft.

426
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Right now, he's the number two quarterback for the Green

427
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: Bay Packers behind a guy who's got two career starts

428
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: or whatever Jordan Love has see.

429
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Teddy's this way. But this was always

430
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: the case with like Cam Newton, Like, you don't want

431
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: to bring that guy like a Cam Newton, that's a

432
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: big figure that was once an MVP and the star

433
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: into that room. Which is why I think like Carson

434
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Wentz is still available. Yeah, but you got to do something.

435
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: You can't just say Clifford.

436
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford was not a good college quarterback.

437
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: No, I mean he was a hard watch of Penn State.

438
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Like, I don't get that room at all.

439
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: I understand the draft pick at all. Right, that makes

440
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: little sense to me not to mention that that organization.

441
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: And I say that because their gms really haven't changed

442
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: all that much. And even when Rogers was there and

443
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: during the FARVI era, they would draft hasselback Brunell like,

444
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: they always kept bringing in late round guys and they

445
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: had good backups all the time. iMore. No.

446
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: For the Vikings, it's Nick Mullins and Jaron Hall.

447
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Pretty rough, pretty rough, pretty rough. Yeah.

448
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: For the Falcons, it's Taylor Heineke, Logan Woodside, and Austin Allen.

449
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: Heineke's book is written, but that's probably a top ten

450
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: group I'd rather have mentioned.

451
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Panthers, it is Andy Dalton and Matt Carroll.

452
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's one of the best.

453
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you've got a guy that's won a

454
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: bunch of games in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

455
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: who knows, and he's backing up the young guy he get.

456
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: You know, Andy Dalton can serve as a mentor for

457
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. Okay, that makes sense.

458
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I like it. Yeah, that's one of the best.

459
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: For the Saints, Yeah, that's that's how you do it right, right, right.

460
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: For the Saints, it is Jameis Winston and Jake Hayner.

461
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: I still maybe I can't quit Winston.

462
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: You can't get quit chas.

463
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I know, but that's a pretty good room. I don't

464
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: know any clue what Winston is anymore. They traded up

465
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: for Hayner, though, who was my favorites of those third tier.

466
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: That just tells me they're not gonna They're not re

467
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: signing Winston after this year.

468
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: I was shocked he came back.

469
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, remember when I said Washington was the or

470
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Green Bay where the worst quarterback rooms.

471
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: It's always worse.

472
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay might be worse.

473
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: Their starters, think too.

474
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: Behind Baker Mayfield is Kyle Trask and John Woolford brutal.

475
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Trask is almost the point now

476
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: where I know where he is. I mean, I know

477
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: he hasn't played a lot of NFL starts, But I

478
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: don't think it's a house situation where they're hoping they

479
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: caught lightning in a bottle.

480
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: No, this isn't even Jordan Love sitting around waiting for

481
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: you know, waiting for a retirement. This this was Kyle Trask.

482
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: And they said, you know what, Kyle, we don't think

483
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: you're the guy. We're gonna go sign Baker Mayfield right right,

484
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: only the Tampa Bay Buccaneers exactly.

485
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, draft could last in the league forever, especially if

486
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: he does not have to play.

487
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. For the Arizona Cardinals, they're carrying five quarterbacks

488
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: because their starter is hurt. So how do we want

489
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: to look at that right now? Is Kyler Murray, Colt McCoy,

490
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Clayton Tune, Jeff driscoll and David Blow I think you

491
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: call Kyler the one, Okay, Colt McCoy is going to

492
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: start the season a quarterback for them likely likely, yes, yuck.

493
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: And I bet Clayton tune plays at some point.

494
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: At some point because you're not going to where with

495
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy right as we'll figure out what Clayton tune is.

496
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: Right when they're one and seven and Kyler's still not

497
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: back throw tune in. Yeah, I mean Coy is a

498
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: perfect example off that guy's a multi millionaire.

499
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: Played like twenty career games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the

500
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: this RAM situation is yuck. Yeah. Behind Matthew Stafford is Stetson, Bennett,

501
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: Brett Rippian and Dresser Win.

502
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean how we opened the segment those mid round

503
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Clayton tunes, Stetson Bennett's I bet sets and Bennett plays.

504
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: This year more than likely. And he you know, he's

505
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: he does have plenty of like eight years of college experience,

506
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: so right, but he's Yeah, San Francisco, I'm number one

507
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: behind Brock Purty, is Trey Lance, Sam Darnold and Brandon Allen.

508
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not with you on that. I don't

509
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: know what Trey Lance is and neither does the league.

510
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: That's why nobody made an offer for him, and he's

511
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: He's been available the entire offseason, and nobody has has

512
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: banged on San Francisco's door and said, yeah, we'll give

513
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: you a third round pick for that guy or a

514
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: second round pick. Nobody wants to because he hasn't played

515
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: football in his life. I know he's an athlete who's

516
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: thrown three hundred passes in the last six years.

517
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's good either, and it's kind

518
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: of like talking about Jordan Love a year ago. But

519
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: I trade Mitch and Rudolph for Lance.

520
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: I would not. I knew, I didn't. I didn't like

521
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: him coming out. I don't like him anymore now based

522
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: on what I've seen of him.

523
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: In the end.

524
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: He's a fifty percent completion percentage guy. That's what he is.

525
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it for Elik Willis or Corral. I mean,

526
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: some of these young guys that I don't know about,

527
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: But I'll do it for the second overall pick. I

528
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it for Wilson.

529
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Would any other team have taken him second? Overall, we're

530
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: just assuming that the forty nine ers knew something that

531
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: everybody else didn't.

532
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: But he wouldn't have fallen past ten where Fields went.

533
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean I liked Fields a lot more.

534
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: I like Fields more too. I mean I thought Field's

535
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: falling to ten was criminal. I did too, and I

536
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: would have taken him at two. Frankly, I think we

537
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: both would have. We were doing the drive, then.

538
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: We both that's who we you know, would pick there?

539
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Free Lance again, two hundred and fifty career college passes.

540
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I know the reason, I mean part of the

541
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: reason I would put them one in the backup world? Though,

542
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: is Donald's one of those ten? I mean, Donald's good,

543
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: they suppose, Yeah, I'd rather have her sat But Donald

544
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: to me is I mean Donald versus Mitch is at

545
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: least a conversation.

546
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Like if Baker may if Baker Mayfield was the Tampa

547
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers backup, right, would you rather have Sam Donald

548
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: or Baker Mayfield.

549
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Mayfield?

550
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean Donald's Donald's not great.

551
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But in compared to the Simey and

552
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Allied and you know the names we've mentioned for the

553
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: last twenty minutes. He's pretty great. Yes, I mean, that's

554
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: that's a good way to end it. That's how bad

555
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: things are, and that's why it's great to have Mitch

556
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: and and rudolp.

557
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Well, we are quite done yet. We got one more

558
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: of the Seattle Seahawks who have Drew Locke in Holton Ahlers.

559
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I actually think that's a top ten one. But again,

560
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean some of these dudes, Lance is the best example.

561
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea how to rate them, and I

562
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: have no idea.

563
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: I have no I have no idea what Trey Lance is.

564
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: I have an idea what I think he is. And

565
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: he hasn't played at all in the NFL too. The

566
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: little that I've seen in the NFL, like, was Trey

567
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: Lance's game tape remarkably better than that of Malik Willis?

568
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: It was better? Was it? Was? It remarkably better?

569
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean they neither one played against Greg We're talking

570
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: about college.

571
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about last year at the time. The games

572
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: that they have played in the NFL, the time they've

573
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: been on the field.

574
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to I mean, we can fight about

575
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Lance all day, but I do remember he played one

576
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: game in a swamp last year that they lost to

577
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: the Bears. It was like seven to six or something crazy, right,

578
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt the next game, which I

579
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: mean doesn't help his cause. But I mean we were

580
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: ending on Seattle. That's where I was going with this though,

581
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I know who Drew Locke is more than I

582
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: do Willis or Lambe. Oh yeah yeah, but I it's

583
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: not great backup because maybe his story isn't written.

584
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still young enough that you know. It's the

585
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: same reason why we looked at we looked at the

586
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Steelers signing for Bisky last year, well, I mean three

587
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: years ago. He was the second overall pick in the draft.

588
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: The difference, the difference between Trubisky and Lance Tribisky played a.

589
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Lot right, right, right, I mean there was plenty of

590
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: game tape at least, you know, it wasn't all good,

591
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: of course, and Locke is closer to that. Like I

592
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: could see whenever you're negotiating with the Broncos for Russell Wilson,

593
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: we locking the deal.

594
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: You know, we'll take a chance on the upside.

595
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: We'll bring him to camp. He's cheap. And this time

596
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: last year it was lock and Gino are going to

597
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: go head to head and we don't know who's even

598
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: going to be the starter, right, I mean, that's not

599
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: a huge feather and locks cap. But I'll take him

600
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: over Simeon.

601
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: We'll take him over Nick Mullins, Sean Clifford, twenty of

602
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: the names.

603
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Listen.

604
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: I won't take him over Andy Dalton or Jamis Winston,

605
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: right right, right right, you know, but.

606
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Okay, at least he might be good. I know many

607
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: of those guys will never be good.

608
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: But if we're simply looking at number three's across the league.

609
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: Here's are easily number one. Well maybe the Niners or

610
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: some weird team like that.

611
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean Mason Rudolph's right there, you know,

612
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of teams he would be the number two.

613
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: He's better than half the two's.

614
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I no idea, you know what I mean.

615
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: It's not like he's super expensive.

616
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah again, maybe he just there's all kinds of stuff

617
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: that goes on behind the scenes there that you know,

618
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: maybe he didn't want that situation right all right, right,

619
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: or maybe he was holding out for a multi year deal,

620
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: whatever it may be.

621
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always or has an injury either.

622
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Right, You can subscribe now to the Drive. Every episode

623
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: we do is available for you to download. Subscribe today

624
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: through the Steelers mobile app, the iHeartRadio app, and wherever

625
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: you find your podcast. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

626
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: We'll be back to finish up the show right after

627
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: this