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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 2: the entire media landscape. Okay, shoot, here's a deal. He's

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Speaker 2: a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being.

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Speaker 3: To Grace's planet, there.

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Speaker 1: Got a bed with a voice that sounds like Verry White, and.

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Speaker 3: Be got to say, Hey, let's do it, baby.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity. This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Jim Hody, Welcome into another episode of Stupidity,

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Speaker 2: the biggest podcast in the world. Thanks to you. Please subscribe,

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Speaker 2: the biggest podcast in the world thanks to you, Bigger

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Speaker 2: than Oprah. And by the way, listening is optional. What

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Speaker 2: I care about this week is one thing and one

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Speaker 2: thing only, and that is Master's Week. It is my

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Speaker 2: favorite week on the sports calendar. I am super excited

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Speaker 2: for it. Now, I realized we just had a master's

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Speaker 2: back in November. But a master's in November doesn't really

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Speaker 2: feel like a master's. Masters in April means spring is here,

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Speaker 2: Summers right around the corner. The majors have started. So

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Speaker 2: it's super exciting and we have possibly the greatest guess

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Speaker 2: we can get to preview the masters to talk about

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Speaker 2: the masters, that is our old buddy. Listen, here's what

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Speaker 2: happened at ESPA. Two monumental figures left ESPN recently. Okay,

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Speaker 2: one was Tom Ronaldi, the other on was myself. How

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Speaker 2: about that maybe Levatar, that guy Levatar? Yeah, exactly, So

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Speaker 2: we are gonna have the great Tom ronaldy on. I'm

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Speaker 2: super excited. I did Mike. Just hearing his voice, okay,

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Speaker 2: will make me cry. He has that effect on me.

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Speaker 2: He has an effect on everyone, doesn't He mean that.

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Speaker 4: Guy has made me cry more often than I think

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Speaker 4: anybody else in the like in the world. That guy.

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Speaker 2: If he came on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Morning, I was like, all right, I'm gonna cry.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, just just just upon hearing his voice. He'll

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Speaker 2: do that to you. Do you think he did it

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Speaker 4: Do you think he like woke up Saturday morning, he goes,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna make all these people cry today.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, listen the type of stories that he covers,

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Speaker 2: their emotional uh, they're they're meant to tug at the

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Speaker 2: heartstrings for the most part, most of the stories. His

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Speaker 2: Tom Rinaldi kind of gets off on the fact that

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Speaker 2: he can make you cry. Yes, I did. Is he

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Speaker 2: trying to make you cry? I don't know, we'll ask him,

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Speaker 2: but I think he loves the fact that he can

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Speaker 2: make you cry on a moment's win, you know, before

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Speaker 2: Tom Radaldi comes on. We're very excited now with Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports obviously used to be with ESPN College Game Day,

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Speaker 2: covered all the golf, great storyteller, the best storyteller we

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Speaker 2: have in this business, and a handsome devil. By the way, Mikey,

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Speaker 2: it is Master's Week. I'm excited. You know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm very distracted this week. I will be distracted the

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Speaker 2: entire week. We have many many episodes we're recording. I

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Speaker 2: am telling you I will do those while I'm watching

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Speaker 2: the Masters on my television, probably not paying attention to you.

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Speaker 2: With a guests, but quick game of athletes that canote golf?

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Speaker 2: How about that? Okay, yeah, okay, but he got Donald Driver?

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Speaker 4: How a that Lee Greenwood? What did you say, Lee Greenwood?

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Speaker 4: Lee Westwood? No, there's another guy to google it. I

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Speaker 4: think I think Greenwood. There's somebody named Greenwood.

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Speaker 2: I think you're thinking of el C Greenwood, former lineback,

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Speaker 2: perhaps for the Pittsman. You are at of it, fucking Fizer.

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Speaker 4: Yes, el C Greenwood?

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Speaker 2: What did I say?

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Speaker 5: Lee?

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Speaker 2: Look too? Yes? But what just go green? I mean,

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Speaker 2: like you know, Tim Grip, Kelly, Sidney green Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly is exceptional. That is exceptional, Chip Kelly. I

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Speaker 2: made up for it, you did. But keep it all

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Speaker 2: hear how bad you were today. Is there anyone who's

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Speaker 4: Pill Buckner sound enough like Bill Bunker. That's Archie Bunker.

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Speaker 2: There you got, You're back. Just keep talking, Mike. It's

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Speaker 2: the one rule of radio. Just keep talking. Eventually you'll

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Stu?

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Speaker 2: I am doing great? Tom?

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Speaker 3: How are you I'm good? I'm good?

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Speaker 2: Good? Uh Tom, listen, you're sitting in a room. It's

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Speaker 3: No, this is that's so. That's the kid's art work,

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Speaker 3: I'm better, but yeah, all good. You look you look.

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Speaker 3: I love the dead. Are you a big dead head?

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Speaker 2: I love the dead? Of course?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I like the dead. I would never

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a memorabilia piece. It's actually, uh, it's

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Speaker 3: Is it autographed to you, Stu? Or you bought it

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Speaker 2: wonder what it's Master's Weeks. It's my favorite favorite week

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Speaker 3: I am asked, as I'm sure you are, Stu. And

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Speaker 3: And nonetheless, I've never seen anybody come away from Augusta

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Speaker 2: Like Tom, we were debating before you came on. Do

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Speaker 2: it this way, do you do you enjoy this power

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Speaker 3: No, you know, it's funny, Stude. We've been we've been

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Speaker 3: any institution, Stu wins, Tom loses, Mike's the champion, Tom

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Speaker 3: in that sense, I think people are already invested, and people,

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Speaker 3: Stu want to be moved, they want to be inspired,

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Speaker 3: it's nothing most of the time that I'm doing. It's

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Why why did people react? I'll ask you

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Speaker 3: and Mike, how did you react when Tiger won.

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Speaker 2: I cried, why tears of joy comeback story? Something I've

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Speaker 2: wanted to see for many many years, Tiger coming back

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Speaker 3: And he did it, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just the juxtaposition when he hugged his father

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Speaker 3: I was amazed at the outpouring. I'm not on any

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Speaker 3: in ninety seven and fiercely hugging Earle with everything he had,

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Speaker 3: that joy. Now, a lot of what Tiger's been through,

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Speaker 3: like when you say instantly you said, I cried did

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Speaker 3: you think of the times of desperation and ignominy and

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Speaker 2: Because I thought, Yeah, I thought about here's the guy

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Speaker 2: Tiger at Mike. It was so well put by you.

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Speaker 2: It's Tiger at the beginning. Tom. Every tournament he won,

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Speaker 2: he was hugging his mom and his dad, and dad

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Speaker 3: Mean, so when you asked to circle back to you know, Tom,

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Speaker 3: I have a story, that's my story about Augusta.

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Speaker 2: You won the ten million dollars the second you open

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Speaker 3: he thought that Sloan did it by design because the

432
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 3: team needed a spark, you know, et cetera. And I

433
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: want to say it was the lockout season or something

434
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: like that, and Sloan was always brutal toward me. You know,

435
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: had no idea who who the hell I was or

436
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: should he? And so I said to him. I talked

437
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: to thorough Bailey and he said he thought you might

438
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Speaker 3: have gotten a technical by design to give the team

439
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: a spark. What's your reaction to that? And he said

440
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: to me, you haven't watched us play very much this year?

441
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: Have you you ever watched me coach very much? Have you? Like?

442
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: You didn't watch all eighty two games this year? Like

443
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: did you? And I said to him, well, there were

444
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: only fifty this year, coach, So no, I didn't because

445
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: it was a lockout season.

446
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: You have some balls, bro.

447
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: Moment that was me. I just shouldn't eaten it, but

448
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: I didn't And that was a moment.

449
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but produced a good story for us. Thank you.

450
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Lowis score? Well, how many times have you played Augusta?

451
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Speaker 5: Tom?

452
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: How many times?

453
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: Now? Three?

454
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Okay? So lowest score you ever shot at Augusta is blank?

455
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Speaker 3: Is ninety one? Wow?

456
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Speaker 2: Highest score?

457
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: It's not that much higher? It's ninety five.

458
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay? Were you happy with the ninety one? You have

459
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: to be right, of course?

460
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Speaker 3: Yes, I pared twelve and I was need to walk

461
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: off the.

462
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Irrational fear tom or and all these irrational fear is

463
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: blank like I'm afraid of frogs, Tom Jerry Saloon.

464
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's irrational. Step. It's just that at

465
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Speaker 3: any point, any day or night, I'm going to get

466
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: the knock on the door where there's gonna be somebody

467
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: in a very official looking posture who's just gonna look

468
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: at me and say you're a fraud. You don't know

469
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: much about sports, You really don't. Who has given you

470
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: this job, Who's given you the right to get on

471
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: national TV or the national airwaves. That's probably my number one.

472
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: There may be rational underpinning to it. For sure.

473
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Speaker 2: Your fears are my normal. Your fear is his Twitter timeline.

474
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: I do wonder, Tom, why are you not because the

475
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: amount of love you would get on social media? Like

476
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: through the roof? Why are you not on social media?

477
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: Way back when? Okay, if you remember this, I.

478
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: Always feel like I got a brace. I'm sorry to

479
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: cut you off, but I always feel like I can

480
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: embrace myself because something emotional is coming back.

481
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: So there. Andy Murray played Roger Federer in the Wimbledon

482
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: final and in I want to say it's twenty twelve.

483
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, and it was the first year

484
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Speaker 3: stew that the roof closed. There was an unforeseen quick

485
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: shower and the roof had to close during the men's final,

486
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: and when that happened, you know here this is obviously

487
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: the biggest tennis match that we broadcast in twenty twelve,

488
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Speaker 3: Thanks Mike, that we broadcast, and we suddenly have twenty

489
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Speaker 3: minutes of unplanned after the first set, unplanned sort of

490
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: quote unquote dead space. So we had an executive von

491
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: site student who made a really bold decision to air

492
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Speaker 3: a ten minute feature during the twenty minute roof closing

493
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Speaker 3: and acclimatizing a center court, a super heavy feature that

494
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Speaker 3: we had done. And most people still don't know this

495
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: about Andy Murray, which is incredible and again it's very

496
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: heavy and very tragic. Andy Murray grew up in a

497
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Speaker 3: town in Scotland called Dunblane, and dun Blane is famous

498
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: for a school shooting, something which never happens in the UK.

499
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: A deranged former Scout leader came into an elementary school

500
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Speaker 3: and shot up a gym filled with kindergarteners and killed

501
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: more than a dozen of them and their teacher. Murray

502
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: and his brother Jamie, is a great doubles player were

503
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: in the school at the time. They hid under their

504
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: desks during the shooting. Murray never talks about it ever.

505
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: But we went to dun Blaine Stude to do a

506
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Speaker 3: story about whether the town that had had the worst

507
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Speaker 3: thing that could ever happen cared about whether one of

508
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: their former sons might win Wimbledon, and we found the

509
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: town was unbelievably supportive of Murray and his family desperately

510
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: wanted him to win, partially because the town wanted to

511
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Speaker 3: be known as something more than the place where this

512
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: terrible thing had happened, never to forget it, but to

513
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: have another thing be part of its identity, a great thing.

514
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: So we aired the story not on social media, and

515
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: somebody that we work with at ESPN, I don't know

516
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Speaker 3: what on earth compelled him to do it. He forwarded

517
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: a tweet to me, a brutal tweet about ESPN's decision

518
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: to air the story in defense of our former colleagues too.

519
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't think he understood the context of what he

520
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: just forwarded it to me with me at tax like,

521
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Speaker 3: why on earth would they show this? Last thing I

522
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: want to see on a Sunday morning is Tom Rinaldy

523
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: talking about dead children f him, you know like that.

524
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: And right then and there, I knew I'm never at

525
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: because I'm too thin skinned. I see it as too

526
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: much of a time suck, whatever it is. But I

527
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: never ever waivered. I was never gonna. I just didn't

528
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: want to try. And I know that there's great value

529
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Speaker 3: to it, especially in what we do. I know there's

530
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: I know it's a way to connect with people. I

531
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: know that social media can do a lot of good.

532
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: But that first sting, when I wasn't even trafficking in

533
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: it was so beyond the pale harsh. I just said,

534
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm never going to traffic in that, and I never have.

535
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Speaker 3: I didn't. That's way too heavy in answer.

536
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, but it's a great.

537
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Answer to it really bothered me.

538
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: No, it's the comment section of a newspaper. That's what

539
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: that's what Twitter has become. And if you have thin skin,

540
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: then yeah, it's probably wise to stay away.

541
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Speaker 3: You know what it is to me, Stu. And I'm

542
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: not the person who came up with this, but I

543
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: thought this was so accurate. You know, when you go

544
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: in the supermarket, we're old enough to remember this, right,

545
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: Somebody puts up something on the community board, guitar lessons,

546
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: and then they have a little the sort of tabs

547
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: on the bottom, and you tear off the phone number

548
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: and right. The difference between that community board and some

549
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: forms of social media is you not only do you

550
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: not tear off the tab because you want the guitar lesson. No,

551
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: you do tear the tab off and then you call

552
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: the person and you say, I would never want to

553
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: take lessons from you. You suck. That to me is

554
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: the worst of social media, which I just don't get.

555
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Right, Listen, I bypass all the negative stuff and only

556
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: I just search out the positive stuff and I retweet those.

557
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: That's how I navigate through it. Okay, I mean mix

558
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: life easier. The song tom r and all these things

559
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: out out loud in his car every time.

560
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: Is blank bad by you too?

561
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: That I almost want to hear you sing it right now, No,

562
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: you don't. The coolest forsome tom Ronaldi has ever found

563
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: himself in is Blank. It might be with Kevin and Augusta. Actually,

564
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking about it, that.

565
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: Would be number one. But but I would say myself,

566
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Nick Saban, all right, leaf leaf fitting, Wow, that's got

567
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: even I mean that that that's got to be up.

568
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: There been fitting and Rinaldi is saving any good golf?

569
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: Yes he is, Wow, Yes he is. Yeah. Yeah.

570
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: Did this go down to Augusta or No?

571
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: It did not?

572
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: No, okay, no, Saban's backyard.

573
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: It was in Florida, Okay. Yeah.

574
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: The perfect final round pairing, and I think Rory would

575
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: be one of them. But the perfect final round pairing

576
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: for Tom Ronaldi this Sunday would be blank.

577
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: Fine last the last pairing of the last pairing on Sunday, Yes,

578
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: would be Rory. I guess you gotta say it right,

579
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: it would be Rory and Bryson.

580
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be That would be I was gonna say

581
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Rory and Phil. I think that would be fun. Yes,

582
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: that would be strong. Bryson and Rory. Yeah, what are

583
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: your thoughts? Quickly? Here on on on? Bryson good for

584
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: the Yeah, and Bryson would be a very strong final

585
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: pairing too. Yeah, Bryson's good for the game, right, I mean,

586
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: I know there's a bunch of antics and all that, but.

587
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: Yes, without question, great for the game.

588
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, last thing we get you out of here, Herbstreet, Corso,

589
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Reese or a bear a little game. Okay, Yeah, I said,

590
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: you work with all of them. Okay, and if you're

591
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with any of the questions, just let me know. Yeah, okay.

592
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: The guy least likely to pick up the tab at

593
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: dinner Herbstreet, Corso, Reese or a bear.

594
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's a Unfortunately, the question is just fails

595
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 3: on its face because Herbstreet picks up every check every time.

596
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: No one has a shot.

597
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: But does anyone else try? Does anyone else even try?

598
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: You're never gonna win. He picks up the check every time.

599
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: I like that about it. But but who's like, who's

600
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: the guy in that foursome who's giving the appearance that

601
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: he's trying to pay but really doesn't want to pay?

602
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: All of us?

603
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: I would say, Felika, It depends like it all depends

604
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: on how he did that day.

605
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: I would say, all of us, all of us, all right?

606
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Worst restaurant recommendations when you're on the road, on the road,

607
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: herb freak, Corso reesa the Bear.

608
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: Oh well, there's no question he never makes any recommendation

609
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: because he doesn't never goes out. But that would be Corso.

610
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: What Corso? What Corso does do? Is he take. He

611
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: gets a little collection together from the snack table and

612
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: he and he gathers it all and then he takes

613
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: a roadkilled grill plate so that he can reheat that all,

614
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: and then he sets it all out from the TV

615
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: on the chest of drawers there in his room. Yeah,

616
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: and he's in his pj's at five point thirty p

617
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: ready to go.

618
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: What I love most about that show when you were

619
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: on it, Tom, and I'm certain, I'm certain we'll continue

620
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: moving forward here is how much you guys genuinely care

621
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Speaker 2: for that man. I love it. It comes across It's

622
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: like it comes across right into my living room, comes

623
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: across the television. The way you guys kind of coddle

624
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 2: him and look after him and make sure he's okay,

625
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: especially Herbstreet. It is one of the most magical things

626
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: about that show, and it's what makes that show great.

627
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think you're so perceptive to say that, Stue.

628
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: I was asked what college game Day was, and to me,

629
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: I gave a very easy answer. It's Herbie's hand on

630
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: Corso's four arm when when, if there's ever because that's

631
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: the thing we all desperately hope our family might be

632
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: that we're gonna look look out for each other, love

633
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: one another. And Herbie's ability to simultaneously acknowledge, support, laugh at, love,

634
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: lee through everything is I think. And Herbstreet to me

635
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: is the greatest analyst in football. But I just it

636
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: is the thing which is his signature, his caring and

637
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: his caring for me. It's awesome.

638
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: Tom, Were you a shocked as I was that? I? Uh,

639
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: that I was on that show?

640
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: Not at all.

641
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: Let's be clear though, the only reason I was on

642
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: there is because j Lo canceled last second. A guy,

643
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: I had some, I had some listen, but I had some.

644
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: I had a camera crew in my house. Tom, I'll

645
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: tell you a quick funny story. They woke up that

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Speaker 2: morning expecting to go to j Lo's and they ended

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Speaker 2: up instigats. They were not happy. Guy most likely to

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Speaker 2: suggest an after dinner cocktail Reese, Herbstreet, Corso or a bear.

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Speaker 2: Because everyone wants to go home, there's always that guy. Hey,

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Speaker 2: one more, come.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell You're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: go off the reservation there it's Fowler.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, right, shocking, all right, But he's yoked.

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Speaker 6: Crazy, Yeah, he is he is in good shape, most

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Speaker 6: likely to attend a heavy metal concert, Herrowler, and last

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Speaker 6: one guy who received the most love on the road.

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Speaker 2: It has to be Lee Corso right.

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Speaker 3: It you ready? It might be the Bear?

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Speaker 2: Oh what really? And you whisper that lean like you

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Speaker 2: had the secret.

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Speaker 3: Lee is? Lee is Listen, He's the godfather. He's on

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Speaker 3: the Mount Rushmore. We get it. But with that stew

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Speaker 3: sometimes comes a little bit of you know that there's

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Speaker 3: a reverence. There's not a reverence for Bear. There's a

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Speaker 3: direct affection fascination connection with Bear. Bear is a huge

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Speaker 3: figure on the show. Huge, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I love him. He's a good friend. He is such

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Speaker 2: a good guy, such a genuine You gotta give.

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Speaker 3: The people love they want.

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Speaker 2: You have to write, Yeah, they want the Bear. Well,

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Speaker 2: they love him when he wins. I mean if he loses,

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Speaker 2: that's a right. But that's the life he chose. I

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Speaker 2: tell him that all the time. That's the life he

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Speaker 2: chose for yourself.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: You're a grateful Dead fan. Is there saw that you like?

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you that I have been to

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Speaker 2: three concerts Dead and Company. Jerry obviously passed away many

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Speaker 2: many years ago, and John Mayer has replaced him. And

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Speaker 2: I've been to three concerts. Now he doesn't know it,

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Speaker 2: but I am telling you I've been to three concerts

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Speaker 2: with Bill Walton. Bill Walton has no idea he's been

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Speaker 2: the three concerts with me. Okay, I mean we high

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Speaker 2: five each other during Ramble on Rose any other remember it.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a favorite Dead song?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably say Morning Do Wow?

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Speaker 2: Tom? You really, Tom, if you're going morning? Do you

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Speaker 2: really like the Grateful Dead?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 3: I love I do. I love that song. There's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of them. I love Cold Rain and Snow. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a bunch of de and I. How do you

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Speaker 3: not love Eyes of the World.

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Speaker 2: That estimated Eyes. I go to Mexico every year. I'll

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Speaker 2: be going again this January, Mike, make sure you have

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Speaker 2: that on the calendar. I will not be here doing

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, do it.

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Speaker 2: Let the show. Let's get at Tom. You're invited, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you want to hang out of the beach with

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Speaker 2: me and George rr Martin, who's there every year we're

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Speaker 2: hanging out, You're invited. You're welcome to come to a

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Speaker 2: Dead show. We're going to stand in Mexico. Did Mike

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Speaker 2: send you a promo? Did Mike send you a promo?

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Speaker 2: I am hesitant. You've been so gracious with your time.

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Speaker 2: The storytelling, even by your standards, has been through the roof.

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Speaker 2: I've cried seven times during this interview. So I am wondering,

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Speaker 2: are you Are you prepared? Are you willing to do

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Speaker 2: this for us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Here we go? Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I Tom? I love you man, seriously, There you go.

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Speaker 2: People don't know the fun side of Tom Ornaldy and listen.

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Speaker 2: I am super psyche. Home and home. Okay, you come

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Speaker 2: to a dead show with me. I go to Augusta

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Speaker 2: with you? All right?

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Speaker 3: Sh that's the podcast sacred, a simple hour of audio

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Speaker 3: transmitted to our devices to be consumed. That our leisure

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Speaker 3: holds no real value, we assign its value. We subscribe,

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Speaker 3: rape review, unsubscribe, resubscribe, re rate, re review. Listening is option.

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Speaker 3: The value comes in a podcast's host, that fabled connection

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Speaker 3: between said hosts and given listener for a select view.

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Speaker 3: That connection comes with a man who has written the

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Speaker 3: coat tails of a better man, a fatter man, a

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Speaker 3: more viril man gesture. The food fiend Stu Gotts is

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Speaker 3: of course, all of these things, yet none of them.

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Speaker 3: Once a week, we welcome him into our lives without

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Speaker 3: any accounting or explaining why we allow the sweet poison

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Speaker 3: of his voice to fill our car stereos, our smart speakers,

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Speaker 3: or our headphones and take us to a world where

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Speaker 3: accountability is suspended. His opinion is timeless, is takes boundless.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere else are we beholden to a man whose logo

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Speaker 3: is the transcendent majesty of a man on a toilet

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Speaker 3: looking at his phone. Anticipation mounts each night that we

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Speaker 3: may wake up the next morning to a new podcast

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Speaker 3: awaiting us like a long lost friend who's come to

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Speaker 3: borrow money. Stu Pottedy wherever you get your podcasts, if

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Speaker 3: you dad, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: For a different reason, we have never sounded so good.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, Tom, I love you, I really do. I

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Speaker 2: love and respect you. Good luck with everything at Fox.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me, guys. Okay, And

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Speaker 3: the last thing I'll say to both you guys, and

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Speaker 3: I really mean this is I there's two really, really

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Speaker 3: undervalued qualities which you guys so effortlessly present. One is

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Speaker 3: the ability to laugh at yourself, which is so so

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Speaker 3: important and number two is joy. You guys are joyful,

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Speaker 3: and man if you're not, if you're success well and

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Speaker 3: getting paid to do things you love to do, and

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Speaker 3: somehow you find ways not to be joyful. I never

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Speaker 3: I don't get that. And when I listen to you guys,

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Speaker 3: and obviously the whole dynamic of the show and now

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Speaker 3: of course where it's migrated to, et cetera, I just think,

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Speaker 3: just know this, and I mean it. That's those are

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Speaker 3: object lessons for me to laugh at myself, to be

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Speaker 3: reminded of that, and to put joy near the top.

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Speaker 3: And you guys give me that.

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Speaker 2: Tom, thank you. I'm gonna play that for Dan tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be a blubbering mess. So I mean it,

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Speaker 2: but means so thank you for that. Tom.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Mike forty five minutes. Forty five fucking minutes. I have

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Speaker 2: had goosebumps on my entire body. The hair is standing

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Speaker 2: on my arms. I mean, he is the greatest storyteller

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Speaker 2: in the history of storytelling. It's the pauses, Mike, it

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Speaker 2: is the pauses. It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with the rest

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Speaker 2: of my day, Like, I have no idea. How do

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Speaker 2: you follow that?

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Speaker 3: What do you?

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Speaker 2: Should? Just go to bed and hopefully wake up tomorrow? Like,

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna do now? I don't know what

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Speaker 2: to do with myself. I'm gonna go fucking edit this thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. Oh, that's what you do

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Speaker 2: when we're done. Yeah, I go to work, all right,

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Speaker 2: you do that. I'm gonna have a cigarette, stupodity,