Speaker 1: Hell I Suck at Dating with de Youngler and Jared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck
Speaker 1: At Dating? And we've got a great episode in store
Speaker 1: for you. Today, we have the one and only Chelsea
Speaker 1: Vaughan from Matt James season. Yes, yes, okay cool. I
Speaker 1: thought I was right, but I wanted to make sure. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: So Chelsea Bond from Matt James season and Paradise is
Speaker 1: gonna be joining us. And um, it's really a great
Speaker 1: episode because Jared's gone today and um, and that's always
Speaker 1: just a rare treat that we get to experience here
Speaker 1: I Help I Suck at Dating. So in his steed
Speaker 1: we have Kaylin and Alista are going to join us
Speaker 1: for the episode this week. Here's Alistair. There he is.
Speaker 1: He might not say much, but Calin might not say
Speaker 1: much either. I guess, um, But before we started, you
Speaker 1: guys were just discussing how or not discussing, but I
Speaker 1: guess remembering how you guys, So you guys met in
Speaker 1: New York for a fashion week? Is is that right?
Speaker 1: You guys just fairly past each other. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: both waiting to go inside Alix and Olivia and um,
Speaker 1: my manager used to work with Klin, so she told
Speaker 1: me that you were at another event that I was
Speaker 1: at earlier that week, but I missed you and I
Speaker 1: wanted to meet you. And then I saw you outside
Speaker 1: and You're like hey, and I was like hey, and
Speaker 1: then we're trying to get in, so so yeah, it
Speaker 1: was amazing. She was in this like red trench coat
Speaker 1: and Chelsea is obviously very tall, so she's hard to miss.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so, it's very happy to
Speaker 1: meet you. And we kind of we're struggling to get
Speaker 1: in together because it was just chaotic and neither one
Speaker 1: of us I feel like, are going to go to
Speaker 1: the front and be like I need to get in here.
Speaker 1: So we were kind of like on the sidelines, just
Speaker 1: waiting to get in, but we eventually made it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was just thinking about this because like,
Speaker 1: I've done Fashion Week so many times, but like on
Speaker 1: the other side as a model, so I've never been
Speaker 1: like the person that's like, oh my god, you know
Speaker 1: who I am, Like I'm trying to get in. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I will not be doing that.
Speaker 1: I will stand here all night before I walk up
Speaker 1: to the front and like cut the line and be like,
Speaker 1: excuse me exactly? Is that the one that you were
Speaker 1: saying that they like wouldn't let you in? That was
Speaker 1: a different brand. So there was multiple There was multiple
Speaker 1: of these places that you try to go, and they
Speaker 1: were like disorganized every single well not every single one,
Speaker 1: but that was the most chaotic one for me. Um
Speaker 1: And I also feel like I had a little bit
Speaker 1: of like imposter syndrome because I'm like their actual celebrities
Speaker 1: like right next to us trying to get it. Like
Speaker 1: I don't consider myself celebrity, so I'm just like feel
Speaker 1: really weird when like Nikki Hill and then like Madison
Speaker 1: Pettis are like right next to me. So I was
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know what I'm doing here and
Speaker 1: pick names. We walked in. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw her, but we walked in as Katie Holmes was exiting. Yes,
Speaker 1: I saw her. What am I doing here? Right? I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't I mean, maybe they shouldn't let
Speaker 1: me in. I don't know. He's gotta fake it till
Speaker 1: you make it. I guess. Yeah, Well, so that's right,
Speaker 1: because you are fashion model right. Yeah, so before the show,
Speaker 1: I was like doing a lot of runway. Um. I
Speaker 1: still do like beauty and commercial and like bridle sometimes. Um,
Speaker 1: but I haven't. I haven't been back on the runway
Speaker 1: actually since the show, which is crazy. What is what
Speaker 1: do you mean you have been back on the roadway.
Speaker 1: So you've just been doing like the influencing stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm still signed with my same agency. Um. But
Speaker 1: then when I got back, like I mean I needed
Speaker 1: a minute to recover, um, and then I went back
Speaker 1: on Paradise, So then it was kind of like starting
Speaker 1: the process all over again. Um. But like I started
Speaker 1: working with my manager on brand partnerships and like influencing stuff.
Speaker 1: So then it was like, wow, this is a lot
Speaker 1: easier and it pays me a lot more money than modeling.
Speaker 1: Kind of was just like not really going through as
Speaker 1: many castings and stuff just because the rates are so
Speaker 1: low and it's just it's a lot of work for
Speaker 1: like very little return. Yeah. And so this was the
Speaker 1: first fashion week that you were a non model. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't go to single casting. It's never happened before.
Speaker 1: And did you prefer this over the ladder or I
Speaker 1: guess over the former. M M. I think it's like
Speaker 1: kind of more fun, Like they're both work. But do
Speaker 1: you enjoy like sitting there and watching a fashion show,
Speaker 1: because like I love fashion, Like I went to school
Speaker 1: for fashion. Um, so it was just different. But there's
Speaker 1: really nothing like being like the rush of being on
Speaker 1: a runway, like I kind of missed. I kind of
Speaker 1: missed that adrenaline. I can only imagine what that must
Speaker 1: feel like. I asked, Caitlin, watch you didn't walk? But
Speaker 1: I guess it's not as simple as just being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to walk into York Fashion Week. So I'm
Speaker 1: like five four and she'll see you're probably like six
Speaker 1: ft or something. Yeah I am. Yeah. Well, so the
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week must be like the holy mecca
Speaker 1: of your not your years specifically, but like you live
Speaker 1: in New York, you love fashion, your model well, and
Speaker 1: now an influencer. I guess, so like really is like
Speaker 1: a culmination of all the things that I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just seems like it's crazy that all
Speaker 1: of that culminates into one weekend for you. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a crazy week and I like stacked my schedule too,
Speaker 1: because I really wanted to do as much as I
Speaker 1: could now that I was like on the viewer side. Um,
Speaker 1: so it was really packed and exhausting, but also fun,
Speaker 1: like you get to play dress up all week and
Speaker 1: you know, to your friends, so it was cool. Yeah, nice,
Speaker 1: Well all right, sorry, sorry for focusing on fashioning for
Speaker 1: so much. So I've got some questions for you. So okay,
Speaker 1: we we saw you on Matt season, and we fell
Speaker 1: in love with you on Matt season, and then we
Speaker 1: saw you come back for Paradise. Remind me of your
Speaker 1: experience in Paradise, just to just to jog my memory. Okay,
Speaker 1: quick synopsis. I came in halfway through the season and
Speaker 1: everyone was already pretty much coupled up except for Aaron
Speaker 1: and James, and so then I started talking to Aaron.
Speaker 1: We went on one on one day when horseback rode
Speaker 1: into the sunset and then um, he gave me his rose,
Speaker 1: I gave me. I gave him my rose. Damar came in.
Speaker 1: I went on a date with him briefly. Um, Ivan
Speaker 1: and I made out really quickly, and then Aaron got mad.
Speaker 1: They almost got a fight, and then Aaron made out
Speaker 1: with Tia and sent me home. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: do remember all this drama now, I remember. I remember
Speaker 1: when DeMar came. I was like, oh, DeMar is hot.
Speaker 1: I kind of and I like, I love Aaron. I
Speaker 1: think Aaron's super hot and a super goof funny, goofy
Speaker 1: guy too. But I remember when Demark came, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just thought he was he was
Speaker 1: pretty hot. Um, so okay, So then you went home
Speaker 1: when Aaron didn't give you the rose? How have things
Speaker 1: been post show in terms of just your dating life then? Like?
Speaker 1: What did was there ever a chance for I guess
Speaker 1: I guess Aaron made his choice to go with T
Speaker 1: at that point, so he's he's kicked to the curve.
Speaker 1: But but was there ever anything in your mind where
Speaker 1: you wanted to maybe continue something with Ivan or Damar?
Speaker 1: Um not Ivan. I think we're just not like personality
Speaker 1: was compatible all that much. I think, like, honestly, if
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I'm being completely honest, I had the
Speaker 1: rose that week and I was like tripping on power
Speaker 1: and I was like, I really just want to cause
Speaker 1: some chaos because, like I came in late, nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to have fun anymore. Nobody wants to drink like everyone's
Speaker 1: like tired, I've been sitting in a hotel room for
Speaker 1: two weeks, Like I just wanna have fun, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to like a little chaotic that day. Um
Speaker 1: So that's all that was. Um. I talked to Jamar
Speaker 1: for a little bit afterwards, but like it just was
Speaker 1: more friend vibes, I think. And then as far as
Speaker 1: like dating in New York after, it's kind of tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, well you came off your show together,
Speaker 1: so I guess you never got to worry about like
Speaker 1: dating after. But like people, especially in New York, like, no,
Speaker 1: who I am? And you can recognize me as you said,
Speaker 1: I'm very tall and noticeable, so like you would think
Speaker 1: that guys don't really watch the show like the way
Speaker 1: the girls do. But like if I've been on dates
Speaker 1: like some hinge and like other apps whatever, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't know anything great and then like two
Speaker 1: hours in they're like, oh, my roommates actually were hoping
Speaker 1: I'd bring you home so that they could meet you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. What well I will say, I will
Speaker 1: say because it was I had two years between my
Speaker 1: first show and then meeting Klin. I think two or
Speaker 1: three ors or something like that. And I will say
Speaker 1: whenever we visited New York, like my friends and I,
Speaker 1: New York was the place where it seemed the most chaotic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's just such a high concentration of bachelor fans
Speaker 1: in New York for some reason. Yeah, they don't care either.
Speaker 1: They'll like come right up to you. They maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it is. They're not taking pictures of you, but
Speaker 1: they will. Yeah. I think, like I live in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: so it's a little more chill here, like people. I
Speaker 1: think people know I live in Brooklyn, so they kind
Speaker 1: of like respect my space here, Like, Okay, she's in
Speaker 1: her neighborhood, like, don't come up to her. But like
Speaker 1: whenever I go to this like Manhattan, everyone doesn't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Manhattan is pure chaos. I remember one of my best
Speaker 1: friends was moving to away from the country and so
Speaker 1: we had a going away party for him in New
Speaker 1: York and it was like six of us and they
Speaker 1: were they were like, there's like other guys that had
Speaker 1: never been on the show before, and they were like,
Speaker 1: you's like fully taking advantage of the privilege that I
Speaker 1: had to like sometimes jump the line. It would be
Speaker 1: it was just like so ridiculous, and every time we
Speaker 1: went in somewhere, they got all the attention from all
Speaker 1: the girls and so so ever since then, honestly, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I can go to New York for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, Like I need this. This needs
Speaker 1: to like die down a little bit, so it props
Speaker 1: to you for sticking it out and living there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that like it would die down after I
Speaker 1: don't know, it got worse after Paradise, Like there's there's
Speaker 1: a whole different group of people that watch Paradise and
Speaker 1: don't even watch the regular show anymore. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, yeah, it'll like die down a little bit.
Speaker 1: People are going to be tired of me, Like there's
Speaker 1: new seasons. And then I was like, it's worse. Are
Speaker 1: we are we going to see you on this new
Speaker 1: season in Paradise? You're not you We're not coming on.
Speaker 1: I feel like the way you said it, it it was
Speaker 1: kind of like like you're hinting at you actually are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not now, I will not be there. I've done my
Speaker 1: stint in Mexico and all said on that, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm just like obviously I'm very grateful for
Speaker 1: the show and like the whole platform it brought me
Speaker 1: and all my friends and everything. But I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think I'm ready to close the chapter. I might to
Speaker 1: move on doing things good. Good for you because we're
Speaker 1: still holding on tight. What what is the next chapter
Speaker 1: you're going to be for you? Do you think? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean I've been working with my team on a podcast.
Speaker 1: Actually I've never said this publicly. Yeah, congratulations, thanks, It's
Speaker 1: real now I just said it out loud. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that and like to share more
Speaker 1: when it's ready. It's definitely not ready right now. It's
Speaker 1: a very raw note in my iPhone and I just
Speaker 1: unboxed my equipment for the first time. I'm like spoken
Speaker 1: to the microphone. But yeah, I'm excited about that because
Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know, I feel like even
Speaker 1: like in the modeling industry or like even on The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: like I didn't really get to talk that much. Like
Speaker 1: that sounds weird, but like I was very much portrayed
Speaker 1: as like, Okay, she's the hot model girl, like not
Speaker 1: a bad problem to have, but I didn't really get
Speaker 1: to speak or like have an opinion or a voice.
Speaker 1: It was just like always me like giggling or like
Speaker 1: runaway walking. Um so I really want to like actually
Speaker 1: connect more on a deeper level of people and like
Speaker 1: people that follow me. Um yeah, just share more of
Speaker 1: my opinion? Do you wanna you know, I definitely don't
Speaker 1: have to do this, but like, do you want to
Speaker 1: share more about what it's going to be about? Um again,
Speaker 1: it's very raw, but like it's just gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of like how I am on my page, Like once
Speaker 1: a week I'll do like a Q and I on
Speaker 1: Sundays about like a topic that I think is interesting
Speaker 1: or like I don't know something that people like DM
Speaker 1: me a lot. Um so, like people are always like
Speaker 1: how are you so confident? Or like people love to
Speaker 1: know like behind the scenes of modeling industry or just
Speaker 1: about like, um, I don't know relationships, dating, everything that
Speaker 1: happens for like a twenty something in New York. But
Speaker 1: I just turned thirty. Oh my god, I'm something. Yeah. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: welcome to the club thirties. Not so bad, I promise
Speaker 1: you that much. It's going pretty well so far. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we don't have much to offer you in terms of
Speaker 1: New York. But if you ever need guests for your podcast,
Speaker 1: We're happy to return the Yeah I will. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned a little bit, So tell us
Speaker 1: more about what dating in New York is like post
Speaker 1: show specifically, like especially with your friend group, because I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of girls from your season
Speaker 1: that are all friends out there in New York, right,
Speaker 1: So do you guys go out together a lot? And like,
Speaker 1: how do you like navigate I guess the dating field
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, right after our season, Matt season ended. Um,
Speaker 1: a lot of my girls from the season like moving
Speaker 1: to great such a big hub like in the past,
Speaker 1: but everyone decided to come to York for some reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy about that. They're like eight of us
Speaker 1: here at one at one point. Um. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was really fun. And after math, obviously most of us
Speaker 1: were single except for Rachel Um. And then after Paradise
Speaker 1: Is everyone all of my friends got in a relationship
Speaker 1: except for me. So that was tough because I felt
Speaker 1: like nobody could really relate because I was just I
Speaker 1: feel like very isolated in this situation where like I
Speaker 1: was just on the show. Everyone recognized me and I'm single,
Speaker 1: like all of you guys came away with somebody, so
Speaker 1: I was like, this sucks. Um. So that's that's been that.
Speaker 1: That's been a little hard um. And then also like coincidentally,
Speaker 1: all the people in my life that like my friends
Speaker 1: from before the show also like happened to fall in
Speaker 1: love and so I was just like, okay, cool, I'll
Speaker 1: just be single forever. But no, no, no no. I
Speaker 1: got to a point where I was just like you
Speaker 1: know when you are like seeking something out so badly
Speaker 1: that it's just like it's not gonna happen. Like I
Speaker 1: felt like I just needed to step away from it.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I hate to be like that person.
Speaker 1: I's like, oh my god, I just leaded all the
Speaker 1: apps like I'm so over it because I feel like
Speaker 1: people were like I deleted all the apps and they
Speaker 1: redownload deletedad. But like in New York, that's really like
Speaker 1: how people like meet like there's really it feels like
Speaker 1: there's really no other way to meet people unless you're
Speaker 1: on apps. So I got on Riya because I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that'll be like cool. Um, And I feel like
Speaker 1: people are on there just to like see other people
Speaker 1: at the scene, like nobody's actually trying to take you
Speaker 1: on a date. Um, they're nice to look at, but
Speaker 1: nobody like I couldn't find a whole conversation or like
Speaker 1: actually make it to the date stage. Um. So now
Speaker 1: I'm in a period where I'm like I think I'm
Speaker 1: all set, Like I think I'm just gonna focus on
Speaker 1: myself for a while, and like I really feel like
Speaker 1: when you put all your time and energy into yourself
Speaker 1: and like work on things and self care and like
Speaker 1: focus on work whatever, like that energy comes back to you,
Speaker 1: like people feel that coming off of you, and then
Speaker 1: you attract the right people into your life. So that's
Speaker 1: that's the goal. Right now, I just like don't want
Speaker 1: to be so like focused on it because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's super annoying. Yeah, now you're coming from It's
Speaker 1: tricky though, because you go, excuse me, you go on
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, right like, and obviously your persona or your
Speaker 1: life becomes so like heavy focused on finding someone, and
Speaker 1: then you come off the show and it's hard to
Speaker 1: like just switch gears back to normalcy after that. And
Speaker 1: then you go on Paradise and it's like the same thing,
Speaker 1: and then you come off the show and it's like
Speaker 1: hard to switch gears back to normalcy. So I can
Speaker 1: see why you've kind of been in that situation or
Speaker 1: like that mindset where you're not like not like hopeless
Speaker 1: and like desperate of the fur love kind of thing,
Speaker 1: but like you're so used to having people talk to
Speaker 1: you about wanting to find a relationship, so naturally you're
Speaker 1: just gonna be like, yeah, I want to have a relationship,
Speaker 1: and you kind of get I guess, hung up on
Speaker 1: the whole whole aspect of it. That's true. That's a
Speaker 1: really good point because I feel like my even like
Speaker 1: my therapist was like because I was like, She's like,
Speaker 1: why do you want to be in a relationship so bad?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I just want somebody that
Speaker 1: like compliments my life, like I want someone that enhances
Speaker 1: my life. And she was like, in what ways right
Speaker 1: now do you feel like your life could be enhanced?
Speaker 1: And I really couldn't answer the question, Like it was
Speaker 1: like know what another person could bring to me right
Speaker 1: now that I can't bring to myself. UM. So it
Speaker 1: just like made me think about another way because I
Speaker 1: feel like I was in that mode where people are
Speaker 1: just like relationship relationship relationships and um and also like
Speaker 1: seeing everyone else in my life being one at the time. Um,
Speaker 1: So that really like made me take a step a
Speaker 1: step back and be like, Okay, you can chill out
Speaker 1: like it's gonna come when its right, and you're only
Speaker 1: thirty years old. You got plenty of time. That's true.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my biggest gripes with the whole
Speaker 1: post Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise thing was uh, and it's
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's a gripe. But like, at the
Speaker 1: same time, like you said earlier, you're still appreciative of
Speaker 1: everything that's come because of everything, right, So, um, I
Speaker 1: hated how the only like arena people knew me in
Speaker 1: was a dating from a dating aspect of it, where
Speaker 1: it's like if you're like a musician or like a
Speaker 1: pro snowboarder, people know you as a musician or a snowboarder.
Speaker 1: But because we've only been ever introduced to the public
Speaker 1: as someone that wants to be in a relationship, they
Speaker 1: only ever think of you or me. I guess in
Speaker 1: this case that I'm I'm telling the story from, they
Speaker 1: only think of me as someone that like wants to
Speaker 1: date and so like people that would comment publicly like
Speaker 1: on Instagram or whatever it would be, are always like
Speaker 1: super critical of either your singleness or the pace at
Speaker 1: what you're moving in your relationship. And it's never anything
Speaker 1: more than that because like that's really the only way
Speaker 1: they get to know you is through you wanting to
Speaker 1: to date people. And I don't really know like what
Speaker 1: the point of this is, but it's just something. It's
Speaker 1: just it's something that I've noticed a few times and
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate it. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever experienced that too. I mean I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: I've experienced that in many different ways. Like it's almost
Speaker 1: like you're just put in this box, like you're a
Speaker 1: person that I know, and I know all about your
Speaker 1: dating life, and so I feel like entitled to know
Speaker 1: what you're doing with your dating life at all times
Speaker 1: because that's how they got to know me, that's something
Speaker 1: they found me. So it's like if I don't talk
Speaker 1: about who I'm dating or whatever like for a while,
Speaker 1: like people are like, well, what's going on? Or if
Speaker 1: I do, like people are always going to be like
Speaker 1: all my business. So like that's another thing I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about too. It's like if I or when I
Speaker 1: do find whoever I want to date, Like, am I
Speaker 1: going to post them on my feed? Like? How long
Speaker 1: am I gonna way to do that? Like the whole
Speaker 1: hard Launched Soft launched, Like it's just like a lot,
Speaker 1: especially with somebody that's not in this world at all.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't maybe they don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with that, Like that's kind of annoying. Like I almost
Speaker 1: feel bad when I like go out with people and
Speaker 1: like people come up to me because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's annoying to me. Obviously it doesn't bother me, but
Speaker 1: it's like I'm very grateful and like people say only
Speaker 1: nice things, so it's like how could I be mad
Speaker 1: at that? But like to my friends and stuff, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like sorry, like sorry, like I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how to handle that. Like some people. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even blame that if somebody was like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: really want to date you because like that's annoying, Like
Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, yeah, we got lucky, because
Speaker 1: I guess both of us have to deal with the
Speaker 1: same situation, so either way, we're screwed. Um. It's funny
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that though, because there was a music
Speaker 1: festival a couple of years ago, I went to with
Speaker 1: a bunch of friends and it was the same situation,
Speaker 1: Like I always feel guilty because it's always the friend
Speaker 1: that has to take the photo or whatever, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so we were at the festival
Speaker 1: and we're trying to like migrate to this other area
Speaker 1: to watch this sets, like a Griffin set or something
Speaker 1: like that, and there was too many people asking for
Speaker 1: photos and my friends were like, Dean, we're leaving, We're
Speaker 1: going to see the set. Good luck. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was so pissed, but I fully got it too,
Speaker 1: So I guess, like I fully understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: And then um, to make it even worse, not like worse,
Speaker 1: I guess, but if you're, yeah, then dating someone, like
Speaker 1: if you're out with your boyfriend or with someone that
Speaker 1: you just started dating and someone would come up with
Speaker 1: you and ask for your a picture, then it's his
Speaker 1: responsibility or her responsibility I guess to depending on um
Speaker 1: all things. But uh, yeah, I can only imagine that's
Speaker 1: a stressful situation. So I guess my question for you
Speaker 1: then is, uh, you know, we do have a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that listen to this podcast that live in
Speaker 1: New York, eligible, handsome, successful, interesting, uh, And so if
Speaker 1: they're listening to this episode right now and they're like, man,
Speaker 1: this Chelsea girl sounds real great, But I just I
Speaker 1: gotta know, I gotta figure out what what you want
Speaker 1: to do on a first date. What would your ideal
Speaker 1: first date in New York be? Do you think, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm such a big foodie, Like I really love to
Speaker 1: go try new restaurants. And I love a guy with
Speaker 1: a plan. Like if a guy comes to you with
Speaker 1: everything already planned out, Like some girls don't like this
Speaker 1: because they're like, wow, he didn't even ask for my opinion,
Speaker 1: Like what if I didn't want to go there or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a risky moved on the guy's
Speaker 1: part to just I planned this for you. But I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those girls. I love a plan. So like,
Speaker 1: if a guy comes to me and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: like there's this really amazing new restaurant that everyone's been
Speaker 1: talking about in my neighborhood, Like you want to go here,
Speaker 1: here's them, and you send me a menu that's so hot. Um,
Speaker 1: And then like I went on a date with somebody
Speaker 1: a first day and he knew the restaurant owner. This
Speaker 1: is very niche, but like, I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: of guys here, no restaurantners, because most restauranturs here are
Speaker 1: other men. Um. So he knew the owner, and the
Speaker 1: owner came over and then like we just like a
Speaker 1: tasting menu of the whole restaurant. Like he just brought
Speaker 1: out everything, like the best of everything, and like the
Speaker 1: best drinks. This is like heaven for me for a
Speaker 1: first day. So I love that. Yeah, why didn't he
Speaker 1: was there a second day? Oh yeah, yeah. We dated
Speaker 1: for a few months. Um, but it ended up crashing
Speaker 1: and burning because I decided to go on a show
Speaker 1: called Yeah. That usually usually the real relationship pretty fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's where that one went. But I'll never take
Speaker 1: away that first day from him. It was a really
Speaker 1: good one. That's pretty funny. Um. Well, so why don't
Speaker 1: you just call him back up and be like, hey, look, um,
Speaker 1: let's try this again. Yeah. When I got back from Paradise,
Speaker 1: he was dating someone else. I see a catch like that?
Speaker 1: You know, it only comes out every once in a while. Um,
Speaker 1: do you have any do you have any? Like? What
Speaker 1: is your type? I guess? Um, I mean I love
Speaker 1: a guy that's tall, does he have to be tall
Speaker 1: because you're so tall? I'm dating guys that are like
Speaker 1: five eleven. I know that's still tall, but like I'm
Speaker 1: willing to date an inch or two shorter. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go below five of nine. Probably you really have
Speaker 1: to wow me. I like to wear heels, Like I'm
Speaker 1: usually walking around at like six three so and so
Speaker 1: you're six ft yeah yeah, so, Um I love heels.
Speaker 1: But like, I mean, if a guy's want like threads
Speaker 1: by it or like doesn't feel weird about it, then
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't miller him, it doesn't want me whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would definitely prefer someone that's like six six. Um.
Speaker 1: And I mean I like, I like groofy, like funny,
Speaker 1: silly guys personality wise, um, looks wise, I mean, I
Speaker 1: like an athletic guy. I like usually dark features, although
Speaker 1: I kind of like a blond guy sometimes I don't know,
Speaker 1: just be like attractive. That's that's my type is attractive. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I just like people that like to try
Speaker 1: new things and like just wanna explore a lot in life,
Speaker 1: Like my sister dates these guys sometimes that are just
Speaker 1: like oh, I don't like to do this, and like
Speaker 1: I don't like to like go to the beach, and
Speaker 1: I don't like just like whatever. Like I would know
Speaker 1: myself i was dating someone like that, Like I just
Speaker 1: want to go, like I love traveling, like I love
Speaker 1: trying new stuff, like I want to sky dove, like
Speaker 1: I want to do everything, and I just want somebody
Speaker 1: that like wants to do all of that with me.
Speaker 1: So that's a big, a big factor. You can find
Speaker 1: yourself a skydiver guy, a tall, skydiving athletic, dark featured
Speaker 1: man with that maybe sometimes goes blonde just because he
Speaker 1: feels like he's out there. He's out there somewhere. He's
Speaker 1: out there somewhere, and he's sending a menu to another
Speaker 1: girl right now. But one day it's going to be you.
Speaker 1: That's fine, I ever understood. Calin loves to do this too.
Speaker 1: Whenever we're trying to find any restaurants to go to,
Speaker 1: she always looks up the menu beforehand. I have never
Speaker 1: in my life thought to look up a menu before
Speaker 1: going to a restaurant. Well, granted, I'm a pescuterian. I'm
Speaker 1: very limited, and he eats anything and everything. And also
Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that you're gonna like
Speaker 1: the food. That's true. I just feel to go anywhere
Speaker 1: and find food that I like. But you're right, eye
Speaker 1: have less limits. Well, there's like a lot of there's
Speaker 1: so many restaurants here, like I just I need to somehow,
Speaker 1: Like I got to look at the menu, and then
Speaker 1: I have to look at the pictures. That's me. I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you to do that. I do
Speaker 1: that all the time. I well, yeah, I love pictures
Speaker 1: on Yelp. I'll do that while we're sitting at the
Speaker 1: restaurant because I'm like deciding between two things, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what if it doesn't look how I thought?
Speaker 1: It was the same? I am the exact same. And honestly,
Speaker 1: when I was in New York, I realized that Yelp
Speaker 1: in New York is terrible. Like the photos that people
Speaker 1: take in New York are so bad that every restaurant
Speaker 1: looks terrible. But I don't know if that's just because
Speaker 1: of the whiting or what. But if you go to
Speaker 1: l A or Vegas, the food all looks appetizing, but
Speaker 1: the ones on Yelped that I saw all look really bad.
Speaker 1: I've never personally added a photo to yell so whoever
Speaker 1: is actually doing that, they're doing the world. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you to the yelp first. Yeah, well, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll just have to go to disagree on that one. Um,
Speaker 1: what else do we got before we take a break here? Um?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been because you're pretty close to like
Speaker 1: Abigail and some of those girls, right, yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 1: you ever have like Noah or any of them like
Speaker 1: introduce you to their friends? Well, it's like all the
Speaker 1: really good friends I had for my season ended up
Speaker 1: with bachelor guys, So it's like, Okay, your friends are
Speaker 1: like a bachelor guys. So it's just like a It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've tried my hardest to date, honestly a
Speaker 1: bachelor guy like I've I've looked through all the seasons.
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of them, I've kissed a
Speaker 1: lot of them. Not gonna lie, but like it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's in the cards for me,
Speaker 1: probably just because you're too cool and they don't they
Speaker 1: don't meet the criteria for you. I don't know, We'll see,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, I don't know. I guess I could
Speaker 1: try to have somebody set me up. But that's like
Speaker 1: a risky game because like I did have one friend
Speaker 1: try to set me up and then like if their
Speaker 1: friend is weird to you, like you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean, And the guy
Speaker 1: ended up like ghosting me the wh who's supposed to
Speaker 1: like take me out, so that it's like very like
Speaker 1: why would you do that to someone who was your
Speaker 1: friend's friend. It's like that's so awkward because then you
Speaker 1: have to explain to your friend that you ditched her friend.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, it gets messy. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: how did you get on the show? Like how did
Speaker 1: you become a contestant on The Bachelor? Yeah, I'm actually
Speaker 1: one of the few people that applied. And you know what,
Speaker 1: a lot of people apply and they don't they lie.
Speaker 1: Thank you for admitting it, because that's funny. Every time
Speaker 1: Kalen hear someone applies, she's always like, I like this person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And on my season, I know so many people that
Speaker 1: applied themselves and lied about it, and I'm like, why
Speaker 1: would you lie? Just tell the truth? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I thank you, of course, yah know I applied. It
Speaker 1: was the middle of I wasn't doing anything at all.
Speaker 1: The whole world was shut down, and like they never
Speaker 1: really announced I don't know how they did for you, Kalin,
Speaker 1: but like they never really announced the Bachelor, like super
Speaker 1: early who it is before you can start applying. So
Speaker 1: like they announced Matt James like way earlier than they
Speaker 1: normally do, and so I applied after I find out
Speaker 1: it was him. Like it wasn't like I was just
Speaker 1: applying for like a blanket Bachelor, because I probably would
Speaker 1: have never done that, um, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: MAT's my type fits in the description I just gave you, um,
Speaker 1: and he lived in New York. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: i'll apply, let's see what happens. And then that's what happened. Nice,
Speaker 1: we'll congrats. I feel like that's like the hardest way
Speaker 1: to get in is through applying, because they probably have
Speaker 1: to go through so many applications. It was like very
Speaker 1: like fast tracked, I think because I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: didn't know what the application process is going to be.
Speaker 1: Like I assumed, like you just said, it was gonna
Speaker 1: be like this whole big thing, but like that's what
Speaker 1: happened when I logged onto the website, and it was
Speaker 1: just like, submit one picture your Instagram handle and answer
Speaker 1: why you want to be on the show. And that
Speaker 1: was the whole application. And I was like what and
Speaker 1: so then I just did it in like thirty seconds
Speaker 1: and then somebody called me like the next week. I think,
Speaker 1: um super fast. Instagram kind of helped the application process too,
Speaker 1: because before I feel like I don't know, but I'm assuming,
Speaker 1: like seasons before, you had to apply a bunch of
Speaker 1: photos and or submit a bunch and now they can
Speaker 1: just go to your You're gonna be like does this
Speaker 1: girl look normal? Does she look fine? Okay, we'll put
Speaker 1: her on. That's that's true. Well, thanks for telling us.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I always just curious, but I'm always
Speaker 1: curious how people end up on the show, because it's
Speaker 1: always how did you end up on the show? Um,
Speaker 1: I did not apply's and that's true, And that's true.
Speaker 1: That is the truth. Um. My best friend introduced me
Speaker 1: to one of you know, Bennett. He's like one of
Speaker 1: these executive preusers. So he's good friends with this girl
Speaker 1: in l A. And my best friend is good friends
Speaker 1: with her assistant. And it was just one of these
Speaker 1: things where it was like, I'm just gonna introduce you
Speaker 1: to this person and see what happens and then so
Speaker 1: then yeah, but I did go through like the process.
Speaker 1: Like I once I knew what it was, I was
Speaker 1: still like, yeah, you know what when why not whyt
Speaker 1: to do this? So um, it wasn't like a yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I Yeah, that's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm I pressed that you were able to
Speaker 1: get on the show having applied, because I had a
Speaker 1: foot in the door, a bottle in my mouth. I
Speaker 1: had it. I had the easy set up for sure.
Speaker 1: I had like two phone calls and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want it, let's go, come on. Um Okay, Mine
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. I still had to do like a
Speaker 1: video and like a bunch of pictures or whatever. But
Speaker 1: it was very like it was. It was, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was pretty I think once they found out how weird
Speaker 1: my family is, they were like, yeah, we gotta get
Speaker 1: this kid on. We have to get He's going to
Speaker 1: hometowns no matter how bad he is. All Right, we'll chellse,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: jump back into it. We've got some hot topics that
Speaker 1: we want to discuss. Okay, all right, welcome back. We
Speaker 1: have some hot topics. This is usually Jared's segment because
Speaker 1: he loves the hot topics, but now we've got Kalin
Speaker 1: who might love the hot topics. Steven More, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this because it's like blowing up
Speaker 1: right now. It's about Adam Levine and Sumner and Behind,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure you've heard as well at Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: all of the stitches. It's like people start talking about
Speaker 1: it and then they make a stitch from It's like
Speaker 1: four stitches deep and it's so good. So yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. So just backstory for anyone who doesn't know.
Speaker 1: More women have come forward accusing Adam Levine of sending
Speaker 1: raunchy messages while married to Bohoti Prince Low, the Maroon
Speaker 1: five frontman, apologized to his family on Tuesday after Instagram
Speaker 1: model Sumner stro claims she had a year long affair
Speaker 1: at the singer. So I guess more people are coming forward.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few people come forward, but it's wild,
Speaker 1: and some people are blaming Sumner, some people are blaming Adam.
Speaker 1: Dean and I have had this conversation together and then
Speaker 1: with other couple of friends as well, and Dean has
Speaker 1: a very um strong stance that if you're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: it's your job to stay loyal. It's not necessarily the
Speaker 1: other person, like the Sumner, to stay loyal. So what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Wait, I didn't hear about the other
Speaker 1: people besides sum There there are more messages from other people. Yes,
Speaker 1: And one girl I saw he was like, I'm in
Speaker 1: love with you now and she's like, aren't you married?
Speaker 1: And he was like, it's complicated, and these are all
Speaker 1: over DM, his own like public DM. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: really weren't trying to hide at all, right now. I
Speaker 1: only saw the ones that are like, oh I love
Speaker 1: your body, you're soaking hot or whatever whatever, So gross,
Speaker 1: really really gross and cringe. Um. So I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with Dean on this one, just because, like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the person that's married, it's
Speaker 1: your responsibility. Like Sumner isn't married, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not ideal that she is going
Speaker 1: to be with somebody for a year that she knows,
Speaker 1: like whenever she said in her video, like she said
Speaker 1: she was misled. She said that she was manipulated, which okay,
Speaker 1: I think she was like nineteen or twenty at the
Speaker 1: time or something, but still, like, I'm pretty sure after
Speaker 1: a year you knew you still marriage behind um. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously there's fault on both sides, but as far as
Speaker 1: like the marriage goes, there's only Adam is the only
Speaker 1: one in that marriage. Obviously the hottie too, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's the blame is going to go mostly
Speaker 1: to him, and clearly he was being reckless, like he
Speaker 1: wasn't even trying to trying to hide it, like he knows.
Speaker 1: That is so like I even get scared of people
Speaker 1: like screenshotting my d M s or like screenshotting messages
Speaker 1: on hinge or something for you to be Adam Levine
Speaker 1: and you from your that's so wild to me, it's
Speaker 1: so ballsy. I'm like, what were you thinking? And I
Speaker 1: will say I think like of the blame goes to him,
Speaker 1: of the blame goes to him. But the only thing
Speaker 1: I disagree with Sumner like post it, like, don't post
Speaker 1: just DMP hottie privately if you were actually looking out
Speaker 1: for her. And I don't know, there's just a lot
Speaker 1: that I disagree with, And I was telling Dean, I
Speaker 1: don't love like putting on a full face and makeup
Speaker 1: going in front of the room light, Like come on,
Speaker 1: that just doesn't feel genuine, just if you're going to
Speaker 1: apologize like apology, And even the first one didn't really
Speaker 1: have an apology in it. It seemed more of like
Speaker 1: a flex rather than like I hurt this family, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Yeah, you're so right about the ring light
Speaker 1: in the makeup, like it should be crazy. I didn't
Speaker 1: even think about that part. But she was like in
Speaker 1: her mind probably thinking like Okay, this is gonna like
Speaker 1: go viral, like this is gonna get a lot of
Speaker 1: you that I should probably put on a face to makeup,
Speaker 1: like make it look good. Um. But I think you
Speaker 1: would have respected her more if she was like no
Speaker 1: makeup and and looked really distraught and like I am
Speaker 1: so sorry I did such a stupid thing. Like people
Speaker 1: respected if you own up to your mistakes. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: just it's like a really tough spot though, because like
Speaker 1: I've thought about this before, because like a guy who
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend has like reached out to me to
Speaker 1: like hook off, and I'm like I'm such a girl's girl.
Speaker 1: Like my first instinct is like I want to tell
Speaker 1: the girl, but that's just a really slippery slope because
Speaker 1: like you, like in this case, if she just messaged
Speaker 1: BEYONDSI and was like, hey, by the way, this is happening,
Speaker 1: like you have no idea what's on the other side
Speaker 1: of that, Like she could literally just be ruining someone's life,
Speaker 1: and like a marriage, it's I don't know, what do
Speaker 1: you think, Like should you tell the other person or
Speaker 1: like do you just not? No, that's true, I don't
Speaker 1: know in your situation specifically, Like I don't know that's
Speaker 1: a little it's not a wife, but it is a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: They are in a relationship. I would want to as well.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to, but that's because it's coming from
Speaker 1: a place of me being like if I was a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: I would want to know, because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't feel like that, Like I think there
Speaker 1: are some people out there that are like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to know. Yeah, you know, I can agree with
Speaker 1: that in a different way. I don't like to know
Speaker 1: about Dean's past. Like we were just at a wedding
Speaker 1: and he's like a soon know this girl and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather not know. And granted that's like
Speaker 1: a past that's not even like him cheating on me,
Speaker 1: which he better not ever, But wait a second, is
Speaker 1: that your you'd rather not know? I don't know that's
Speaker 1: false actually, um, because I remember once there was another
Speaker 1: girl and I was like, oh, just how you dont
Speaker 1: want on a date with her? And I know you're
Speaker 1: talking about and you're like, oh, well, thanks for telling me.
Speaker 1: I remember you specifically were like, thank you for telling me. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I go back and forth. And I
Speaker 1: was even talking to my friend who's married about this
Speaker 1: the other day and she was like, I just don't
Speaker 1: like to know, and that there's like a comparison thing
Speaker 1: with women. This is totally off topic of body and
Speaker 1: Adam Levie. But I don't know. It's fine to know.
Speaker 1: I guess what was the Chelsea, what was your opinion
Speaker 1: on the Adam Suminar thing. It's the same as your opinion, like,
Speaker 1: it's Adam's responsibility, it's his marriage, like you're in the marriage.
Speaker 1: She's not like the fall is yours. Obviously she's not
Speaker 1: guiltfully here, um, And I think she knew. I think
Speaker 1: everyone in the world knows he's married her. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for her to be like, well he told me, it
Speaker 1: was problem like whatever, you know they're married, Like yeah, um.
Speaker 1: But I was just asking Calin, like, if you, like,
Speaker 1: if somebody was trying to cheat with you, would you
Speaker 1: tell the girlfriend because I would want to tell the girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and I would hope some random girl would tell me.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Yeah, I would tell Calin. I
Speaker 1: would like, well, if you're trying to cheat on me, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would want the girl to oh yeah, obviously you're
Speaker 1: not going to tell me to tell you. Obviously I
Speaker 1: would never try to cheat. But I think that Calin
Speaker 1: probably said this too. If there was a situation where, like,
Speaker 1: let's say Calin cheated on me, I would be upset
Speaker 1: at Kalin, not upset at the guy that she cheated
Speaker 1: on me with, really cheated on me with. Well, I
Speaker 1: think that would be that's logical. You're only in a
Speaker 1: relationship with Calin. Like that makes sense to me, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of why I feel like we should be more.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm see I feel like we are more
Speaker 1: upset at Adam. Um. I feel like we listen to
Speaker 1: some podcasts yesterday about it, and they made a good
Speaker 1: point because whenever I think about like who to be
Speaker 1: upset at, I always think like even split, Like I'm
Speaker 1: equally as upset at Adam as I am at this
Speaker 1: at Sumner, you know what I mean. But what I
Speaker 1: never what I always failed to realize, is like, well,
Speaker 1: I could be like eighty five percent mad at Adam
Speaker 1: for it, and then I'm set at Sumner for it.
Speaker 1: Like like you said, she's not blameless, um, but I
Speaker 1: do feel like she deserves some flak for it. I
Speaker 1: mean for sure, But like I saw a tik talk
Speaker 1: yesterday that made a good point about like there's always
Speaker 1: gonna be Sumner, Like if it wasn't gonna be her,
Speaker 1: it was going to be somebody else, And clearly there's
Speaker 1: other girls like that came out with messages from Adam.
Speaker 1: So it's like, if you're not the one that's upholding
Speaker 1: your marriage and relationship, like you're the problem because he
Speaker 1: couldn't done it with anyone else, Right, Yeah, I agree?
Speaker 1: Have you gotten all your thoughts out about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I talked about the light in the makeup and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it's and I was creeping on her Instagram yesterday
Speaker 1: and I feel like she's like, fully, she's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows, obviously, but like she's loving the attention she posting.
Speaker 1: Still I think so well, it was her saying like
Speaker 1: I cheated on a guy that's married to a Victoria's Secret. Crazy.
Speaker 1: At least I'm the respect to say her name and
Speaker 1: say like there's no remorse. It's like I stole a
Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret models guy. Yeah, well so that was. So
Speaker 1: here's what sucks is Adam's wife. What's her name? Yeah,
Speaker 1: b h a t I interesting name, okay umati. Now,
Speaker 1: so she's been cheated on and she's the mother of
Speaker 1: two kids with a third on the way or something
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So that's and that sucks for her.
Speaker 1: And now on top of that, she has to find
Speaker 1: out about it through some girl posting on TikTok about
Speaker 1: it like girls terrible. Oh there's multiple girls. It's an article.
Speaker 1: So what I um would have preferred, like who cares
Speaker 1: what I think obviously, But what I think that Sumner
Speaker 1: should have done is if she was serious about like
Speaker 1: wanting to help, she should have reached out to her
Speaker 1: privately in some way, like somehow. Yeah. Okay, So guys,
Speaker 1: I discussed that the way that she's doing it now
Speaker 1: just proves again that she's just like looking for attention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the other thing I was going to say is
Speaker 1: I just saw like TMC photos or some like paparazzi
Speaker 1: photos that were leaked of Bhatti and Adam, like leaving
Speaker 1: a house and smiling so big, which felt like a
Speaker 1: pr move. And also it feels like the only thing
Speaker 1: they can do, like she's pregnant, she's going to give
Speaker 1: birth to his son, Like the only thing they can
Speaker 1: do is pretend like everything's fine, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: so sad. And it's really sad because what she supposed
Speaker 1: to do like leave him in the middle of her pregnancy,
Speaker 1: Like right, I don't know. That's that sucks. Sucks. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 1: some more girls came out and said that they hooked
Speaker 1: up with Adam. Yeah, there's a couple tiktoks and they're
Speaker 1: showing the screenshots. So one girl said, um, aren't you
Speaker 1: He said, I'm in love with you now, and she
Speaker 1: said aren't you married? And he said it's complicated or
Speaker 1: something like that. But okay, So here's another thing, uh
Speaker 1: that I think maybe it's important to discuss I think
Speaker 1: that mega celebrities like Adam and Bahadi have different rules
Speaker 1: for life than normal people like us athletes. You mean
Speaker 1: in athletes here. And I'm not saying that any of
Speaker 1: this is normal or fine or acceptable, but it's by
Speaker 1: our standards as a normal we're normalies. They're they're mega superstars.
Speaker 1: Their lives are so different we like and I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not justifying anything, obviously, I'm just saying their lives
Speaker 1: are so significantly different than ours that I think the
Speaker 1: normal rules that we apply to people don't apply to that.
Speaker 1: But we listen to the Morning to a yesterday because
Speaker 1: we had a six hour drive and Deane listened to
Speaker 1: a golf podcast and then I was allowed to listen
Speaker 1: to the Morning Toast. I don't know what happens. I
Speaker 1: was allowed to listen to the golf podcast and then
Speaker 1: Caitlyn just put on whatever she wanted to put on.
Speaker 1: But the Morning Toast is talking about how, like Adam
Speaker 1: Levin is a rock star, and we do expect this
Speaker 1: of rock stars, but bo Hattie and Adams seemed to
Speaker 1: have this true love in Hollywood that like, we just
Speaker 1: don't think it exists anymore. And that's why it was
Speaker 1: so shocking, Like, yes, rock stars are given like these
Speaker 1: different set of rules than us normies, but we thought
Speaker 1: they were the exception. Yeah, in that video, the girls
Speaker 1: Like You video just like so cute, Like the daughter,
Speaker 1: yeah she's in it. Like the hottie is in the
Speaker 1: video like holding the baby and like he's just singing
Speaker 1: about like how much he loves her, and it's just like, God,
Speaker 1: everyone she eats everyone. Yeah. If it's not safe for
Speaker 1: a Victoria's Secret super Model, it's not safe for anyone.
Speaker 1: Crap crap. Uh, Yeah, that sucks. I think it all
Speaker 1: sucks all around. But have you ever been cheated on
Speaker 1: or anything? Now? I haven't. That's good. That's good. Oh
Speaker 1: well I don't really date that many people. I would
Speaker 1: have had that many chances. Yeah, um, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't. I would love to be, I guess mature
Speaker 1: enough to be like, oh maybe, like I could work
Speaker 1: it out depending on the situation. I know myself, and like,
Speaker 1: loyalty is just the biggest deal in the world to me,
Speaker 1: and I know for I just know I can never
Speaker 1: ever get over it because it's not even like just
Speaker 1: the cheating, like that's part of it, obviously, but it's like,
Speaker 1: to cheat on me, you had to lie to me
Speaker 1: and deceive me. So it's like, what else have you
Speaker 1: lied about? Like I could, I couldn't. I would go
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole for the rest of my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cheat on me, You're out of the house, You're out
Speaker 1: of truck. But I'm a mega superstar. Have a different
Speaker 1: set of rules, differ rules. I would never cheat, I have.
Speaker 1: I have cheated in the past, as you know, what
Speaker 1: was the mindset there? I was just I used to
Speaker 1: party a lot, and I would just get wasted and
Speaker 1: make really bad decisions. But I don't think I ever
Speaker 1: like consciously, so like not that it's any better. Well
Speaker 1: it is, like it's marginally better, but it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not bad. Still, I never like went out of
Speaker 1: my way as like a sober person to like pursue
Speaker 1: someone while I was in a relationship. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just drunk and I'm as you know, I like to
Speaker 1: say yes to things. The next story. So well, I
Speaker 1: had a point of saying, I had a point going, oh,
Speaker 1: just how I am different now? I would I can't
Speaker 1: ever imagine um cheating on on you or I guess anyone,
Speaker 1: just me. Well, right right, but but like even like
Speaker 1: in other aspects of my life maybe, but not like
Speaker 1: that I would. I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess my point is it's so far removed.
Speaker 1: The idea of cheating on you is so far like
Speaker 1: I guess when I was like twenty years old, I
Speaker 1: was always like, well, if I cheat, I cheat, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is so so. But now
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: back that because back then, I'm gonna stop talking soon
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm definitely putting my foot right out. I
Speaker 1: think back then, my like one of my main personality
Speaker 1: traits was that I like to go out like party
Speaker 1: and and that was maybe the worst thing for me,
Speaker 1: especially if I was in a relationship. And now I
Speaker 1: don't do that, and now I hate that. Um so
Speaker 1: that's just nice to be older, I guess, more mature.
Speaker 1: All right, Before I say anything else, that's really ridiculous,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the next topic. I was gonna
Speaker 1: move on to the next segment for us, but there
Speaker 1: was a Kim Kardashian blurb in here, and I know
Speaker 1: Kalen loves Kim, so Um, and do you like Kim Kelsey?
Speaker 1: Are you a Kim Kardashian fan. I wouldn't say I'm
Speaker 1: a fan, but I wouldn't say I'm a hater. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a hater. According to this, it says Kim is
Speaker 1: looking at an unlikely places after her peak up breakup
Speaker 1: with Pete Davidson. She says whatever she's doing isn't working,
Speaker 1: So she says she's plans to date a biochemist or
Speaker 1: an attorney. Oh yeah, she's gonna go to a hospital
Speaker 1: and meet a doctor, or go to a law fer
Speaker 1: and meet a lawyer. She added, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a neuroscientist, biochemist, doctor, or attorney that envision. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about that? Do you think
Speaker 1: she she went from Kanye West to Pete Davidson to
Speaker 1: now hoping to date, um, some sort of doctor. I
Speaker 1: for one, I'll start the conversation here. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a chance she's gonna edit dating a doctor or
Speaker 1: an attorney. She's gonna go back to some famous guy. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I'm mostly surprised you picked this one because this one
Speaker 1: doesn't even interest me, but it interested you. Well, I
Speaker 1: just know that you like to talk about Kim sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I think she is a lawyer now,
Speaker 1: so I can see your dating a lawyer. I just
Speaker 1: think it's difficult at the mega celebrity level that she's
Speaker 1: at for her to just like date somebody that's not
Speaker 1: in that world at all. Like maybe if it was
Speaker 1: somebody that was like super duper rich, not that that
Speaker 1: like put you on the same playing field. But I
Speaker 1: think really really rich people and like really really famous
Speaker 1: people are in leagues that we are not understanding of,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they can kind of like
Speaker 1: relate on that level. Um. So maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: how much Microw what was it Michael chemists, file scientists? Okay, yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they make. But I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think if Kim wanted to date one of them,
Speaker 1: she could find one. I think she would, Um, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe she's just like bored of dating
Speaker 1: people in the public eye. Like I think it's exciting
Speaker 1: for people like that to date regular people because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is different and fun. It's not like another celeb.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think she's bored when Serena and
Speaker 1: I was announcing her retirement. She started, well, I guess
Speaker 1: she's already already placed a lot about him, but I
Speaker 1: started noticing her husband or boyfriend a lot more. And
Speaker 1: he's he's just like a normal guy. He was like
Speaker 1: the founder of, um, some company. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of it. But wait, he's definitely not a normal guy.
Speaker 1: I think he found it. He found it Reddit, he
Speaker 1: founded Reddit. Okay, but he's like a When I say normal,
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like she's dating Drake or
Speaker 1: something like that, you know what I mean. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, like on the same kind of
Speaker 1: like maybe saddest level where you like a billionaire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that'd be pretty nice. Um, I could see Kim
Speaker 1: dating like the founder of like St. Jude or something
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like if she wants to go
Speaker 1: that route, or like it's just the founder of a
Speaker 1: company or charity or something like that. Alright, Sorry, I
Speaker 1: thought you guys would be more into this hot topic.
Speaker 1: I misread him. Um, But Chelsea, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us and co hosting this episode with us.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Guys, get
Speaker 1: you one day in person, hopefully Dame one day Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Fashion Week, whenever you're out here for that sounds good.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for your podcast. I'll keep my ear to
Speaker 1: the ground and whenever you guys need a guest that week,
Speaker 1: Calin and I are more than happy to go us
Speaker 1: talking more about how I would never cheat on anyone again, terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible way. Yeah, I'm gonna want to have mega celebrities
Speaker 1: on there, so I want you guys sure the rules
Speaker 1: don't apply, so you know whatever, whatever you um, we
Speaker 1: are going to have your co host the next episode
Speaker 1: with us. We have got our caller episode which airs
Speaker 1: on Thursday. So for the listeners out there, if you
Speaker 1: more Chelsea Van which let's be honest, why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: be sure to tune in on Thursday as well for
Speaker 1: those quick episodes. So thank you again, challs. Be sure
Speaker 1: to tune in next week where maybe we suck just
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