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Speaker 1: Advice Sugar Spice's Love Love.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Sham your hay

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Speaker 2: straw Shooter. It is Tuesday morning, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Delayna Dixon joins, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm back in New York after being in

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Speaker 1: the Bahamas seeing Lenny Kravits at Baja mar Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: It was the Culinary Festival Institute something like that. But

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Speaker 1: what what matters is that I saw Anny Kravits.

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Speaker 2: That's what matters. It was amazing and it is he

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Speaker 2: as delicious, as exciting as we want to believe he is.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. He came out in a gold chain

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Speaker 1: made top, a leather jacket, sunglasses. It was at night,

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Speaker 1: but he's sang all the greatest look it and he

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Speaker 1: just you know, he's actually from the Bahamas. His grandfather

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Speaker 1: is from the Bahamas, and this was his first official

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Speaker 1: concert there.

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Speaker 2: Ah, you're the luckiest person. Although we should point out

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Speaker 2: to it does sound we do have all these perks.

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Speaker 2: Part of our lovely lives are the perks. The part

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Speaker 2: that you don't see is the miserable grind behind a keyboard,

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Speaker 2: like you're there to work, like it wasn't totally a vacation.

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Speaker 2: There were some lovely elements for it. But while everybody

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Speaker 2: in that audience was having a great time, you had

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Speaker 2: to do a little work. I did.

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Speaker 1: He made a wonderful speech, so he made my job

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Speaker 1: a lot easier. Recorded that and then it came back,

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Speaker 1: sat down and just you're right, that's what we do.

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Speaker 1: We're there, we know why we're there. We're there to

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Speaker 1: get stories and write wonderful stories about the people we see,

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Speaker 1: the places we stay, the events we go to. But

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Speaker 1: you just have to find the fun in it, and

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Speaker 1: I did. I talked to Marcus Samuelson because it was

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Speaker 1: a culinary event.

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Speaker 2: An amazing, amazing chef, the red Rooster, lots of the

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Speaker 2: restaurants are it signs perfect time? What is this story

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Speaker 2: up now, Miste? Can we read it?

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Speaker 1: Where is he up on ebony?

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Speaker 2: Check it out doc com. We'll check it out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's jump into the show. What time is it? My

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Speaker 2: Friends and Ears t time. Big story at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show. So Max from Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 2: I've always liked him, very, very sexy. His brother's on

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Speaker 2: the show. Max has not been on the show for

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Speaker 2: a couple of years now, but he's saying, let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: it might might not be the right thing to say,

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Speaker 2: but he's certainly saying what everybody is thinking, which is Jan,

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Speaker 2: who is Taylor Swift's former backup dancer, he should not

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Speaker 2: be on Dancing with the Stars. So he's saying he's

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Speaker 2: saying that, no, he shouldn't be on the show. He's

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Speaker 2: basically implying the only reason he's been cast as a

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Speaker 2: professional is because he worked with Taylor Swift. There might

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Speaker 2: be some truth to that. Now, behind the scenes, people

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Speaker 2: are saying Max isn't wrong and that Jan is talented,

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Speaker 2: but this isn't the eras tours. This is Dancing with

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Speaker 2: the Stars, and this is about technique, and this is

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Speaker 2: about ballroom and he has a massive fan base thanks

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Speaker 2: to Taylor Swift. But casting him, Max said was quote absurd.

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Speaker 2: He said, he has no business being called a pro.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, mist Now, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes have been very upset that he's there.

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Speaker 2: That Jan is there not necessarily because of his skill level,

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Speaker 2: but because of his association with the most popular person

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Speaker 2: in the world, and he could win the season. He

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Speaker 2: could not his dancer, not his star, but he could win.

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Speaker 1: I think Max forgot where he was. We are not

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Speaker 1: in a ballroom competition. We are on a TV show,

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Speaker 1: a reality TV show that depends on ratings, and the

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Speaker 1: best way to get ratings is to cast a dancer.

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Speaker 1: You're pro who happened to dance on the Errors Tour. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand you want this to be about technique and skill.

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Speaker 1: So because he does not have ballroom dance experience, that

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Speaker 1: is not on his resume. He's more of a commercial dancer.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna have that technique and skill. But is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be a show man? Is he gonna razzle dazl?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna get every single Tailor Swift fan to

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Speaker 1: watch the show? Hell? Yes, and you're gonna see it

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Speaker 1: reflected in the numbers. This is a show that's been

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Speaker 1: on what twenty thousand seasons. They have to keep giving

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Speaker 2: It's working, mister. That's why they cast Hilaria Baldwin, That's

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Speaker 2: why they cast Kate Gostin. You're right, and it is working,

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Speaker 2: mis Day. This season is one of the highest rated

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Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars in years. Let's not forget this

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Speaker 2: show fell so low in the ratings they pulled it

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Speaker 2: it stays there. You just got as you always do.

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Speaker 2: Delaya to the heart of this debate, what is Dancing

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Speaker 2: with the Stars? Is it about the quality of the

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Speaker 2: a show? Is it about ratings? Television is a business.

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Speaker 2: We've learned that MISDI. We've worked in TV now over

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Speaker 2: a decade. It's a business and if they can make money,

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Speaker 2: they don't care about the quality of the show. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to win Emmy Award. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be smart like sixty minutes. If you get a lot

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Speaker 2: of people watching, it can be the Real Housewives. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how sloppy it is, as long as people

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Speaker 2: right now, some shows try to have a balance. They

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Speaker 2: do want professional, but they also want commercial. I think

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Speaker 2: Kelly Ripper's probably the best example of that. It's very professional,

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Speaker 2: but it's also very very commercial, and that's why it

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Speaker 2: has stayed on for so long. Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 2: is not a dancing show, Max, if you are listening,

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Speaker 2: and you might be, it's a business. It's a business.

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Speaker 2: And if you go into the show thinking it's a

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Speaker 2: dance competition, then half of the celebrities dancing would not

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Speaker 2: be allowed on that show. They would not and the winner.

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Speaker 2: This is the other thing about the show. It's not

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Speaker 2: the best dancer that wins. It's a popularity competition. It's

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Speaker 2: the most popular that's who wins the show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you think about the other dance show that

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Speaker 1: was on Fox, they said it was America's favorite dancer,

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Speaker 1: not America's best dancer. Flu America gets to vote, and

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Speaker 1: maybe some people are voting on technique and skill, but

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Speaker 1: you're voting for the person you like, or maybe you're

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Speaker 1: voting for the person who you feel put out the

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Speaker 1: most effort. Maybe you're voting for the villain because you

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Speaker 1: like to see a villain win. Most people aren't voting

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Speaker 1: because they're like, oh, they did that pod? Do you

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Speaker 1: know that so so incredibly well, so, it's a TV show,

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Speaker 1: it's a reality show.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is a good look for Max?

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Speaker 2: He's quite happy to play the villain, like I'd actually

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Speaker 2: forgotten about him. He's not been on the show for

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Speaker 2: several years. He does go on professional tours. He makes

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Speaker 2: his money now doing shows with his wife, with his

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Speaker 2: friends and their professional dancers who go around the country

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Speaker 2: and they're fabulous. I saw one of his shows. He's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: He's an absolutely brilliant answer. He sexy, but he's also

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Speaker 2: to a show man. He puts on that villain role.

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Speaker 2: I would argue here, it's not Young's talent that upsets Max,

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Speaker 2: it's his popularity. He's the new heart thrub of the ballroom.

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Speaker 2: Not only does he have a fan base and Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 2: he's really cute Misty, and he has the most beautiful

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Speaker 2: bottom and when he is shaking it, everybody is watching

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Speaker 2: this guy. He's got Taylor and he's got the looks. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think when you think about Max, it's like you

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Speaker 1: could have told this to your friends, You could have

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Speaker 1: told this to the producers and said maybe this isn't

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Speaker 1: to do it in a public forum. So just like

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Speaker 1: they're using Yan's populariat, are you writing on his cotail

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Speaker 1: so you stay in the news cycle? Are you following

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Speaker 1: the Bethany Frank.

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Speaker 2: Frank model. You find the most successful person in the

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Speaker 2: media of the moment, who were all talking about, and

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Speaker 2: you criticize and you always get attention. I think Max

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Speaker 2: is up to no good here. But what do you

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Speaker 2: think naughties? Max has had a fiery takedown of Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift's dancer John. I think that's how I pronointed. It

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Speaker 2: is John who has divided the cast? Is Max right

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Speaker 2: or wrong? What do you think here? Right or wrong?

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Lori Laughlin and her husband Massimo,

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Speaker 1: who never trusted her on screen husband John Seamos. Massimo

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Speaker 1: could not stand their friendship. Now it looked wholesome, but

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Speaker 1: you know, he just hated seeing how close she was

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Speaker 1: to John Stamos, who played her husband, you know, on

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Speaker 1: Full House they had twins together. She was aunt Becky

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Speaker 1: and look John and Laurie always had incredible chemistry, but

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Speaker 1: Massimo never believed it was just acting. He thought John's

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Speaker 1: charmed didn't stop when the cameras did, and sources tell

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Speaker 1: us that tenons flare during public events and Cherry Gilla's

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Speaker 1: when they were together. Laurie would light up when John

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Speaker 1: walked in, and Massimo would just shut down because he

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Speaker 1: saw John as competition. And that's so silly. Look, we know, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you are my work husband, and we have those and

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Speaker 1: we are so close. But of course you have a

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Speaker 1: wonderful husband at home, and I've got a wonderful husband

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Speaker 1: out there in the ether somewhere. Come to me. I'm RDA,

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Speaker 1: So I don't understand why Marsima would get so jealous.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question. I've been thinking about this

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Speaker 2: and it is something that I think people sometimes struggle with.

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Speaker 2: Like when you and me are out together, mister, if

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Speaker 2: I wasn't as gay as a goose, it would be

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Speaker 2: easy for some people to think we are a couple

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Speaker 2: because we giggle and we laugh, and we talk close,

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Speaker 2: and we hold hands, and we share food and we

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Speaker 2: gossip away. We have the best time out. Would it

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Speaker 2: make a difference to somebody that you were dating if

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Speaker 2: I was a straight man, if you had that relationship

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Speaker 2: with the straight we touch each other mistery. We touch

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Speaker 2: each other's faces, we giggle together, we hold hands. I

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Speaker 2: wonder what, like if I was at if you, if

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Speaker 2: you were a gay man, and I reacted to you

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Speaker 2: the way that I do, would Bruce be as comfortable.

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Speaker 1: No, Bruce would be totally fine because he is the

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Speaker 1: cillo's coolest, the most smartest man in the world. And

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Speaker 1: he'd be like, that's just his friend and whatever. He

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Speaker 1: comes home to me at night. And I actually do

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Speaker 1: have a best male friend who's straight and he's married.

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Speaker 1: But our friendship dates back way before I met his wife.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, she kind of came to me and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, tell me about him. So I think you

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Speaker 1: have if you have that brother sister relationship, which he

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Speaker 1: and I have. She's never been worried once. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I should be upset you're not worried,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure it makes it easier for everybody that

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Speaker 1: you're fabulously gay.

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Speaker 2: I think it makes it easier. This is so interesting. Friendships, relationships, husbands, wives,

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Speaker 2: How does it all mix together? John Stamos has been

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Speaker 2: trashing Mossamo. He's been saying he never liked him, he

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Speaker 2: was a narcissist. And now Mosamo's team are pushing back,

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Speaker 2: saying he never really liked you either, and so maybe

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Speaker 2: now's not the moment. And whatever Laurie and Mossamo are

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well said mister. I'm giving you applause here

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Speaker 2: with a moment of rob Protecting your peace is more

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