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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young San Antonio

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Speaker 1: It's all caught on ring doorbell cam, but she's never

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Speaker 1: seen again. Where is Chrissy? I mean, Nancy Grace? This

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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here

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Speaker 1: at Fox Nation and Serious x one eleven where we

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Speaker 1: still care about missing people, especially children and unsolved homicides.

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Speaker 1: What can we do to bring Chrissy home to her

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Speaker 1: two young boys as young as three years old. First

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Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this unknown are just

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Speaker 1: the scariest parts. So many scenarios are playing out in

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Speaker 1: the mind of Lauren Lea. And she's not just a friend,

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Speaker 1: all her life, is missing. Leale is speaking on behalf

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Speaker 1: friend's character to just vanish, calling this disappearance bazaar, police

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Speaker 1: and the family. Have you even checked the jail and hospitals.

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Speaker 1: We just want you home. You were just hearing our

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Speaker 1: friends at Kae and S five and the very best

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Speaker 1: friends speaking out, and there's more. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: our friends at Living Love you to Laura listen. I

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Speaker 1: on there about her daughter, Chrissie Powell. And this is

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Speaker 1: from her mother. She let me know. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Christina Powell. She left my house in Apple Creek ten

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Speaker 1: She never showed up to work. Can you imagine so

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Speaker 1: desperate you're reaching out on Facebook, Insta, Twitter, trying to

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Speaker 1: hearing from the best friend. But the mother desperate calls police.

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Speaker 1: It takes them three days before they report Chrissie missing Hawai.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's get to the facts with me

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Speaker 1: and All Star panel to make sense of what we

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Speaker 1: know right now. I'm going to straight out first two

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Speaker 1: special guests joining me, Stephanie Pagonas, crying reporter with Fox

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Speaker 1: News Digital Stephanie, thank you for being with us. And

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Speaker 1: I can't stress the urgency because every hour chicking by

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Speaker 1: and a missing person's case makes it more likely will

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Speaker 1: never find her alive. Start at the beginning. Thank you, Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, thank you, Nancy. Yes, that's right. So, as

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, Chrissie Lee Powell lived with her mother.

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Speaker 1: She woke up that morning she was running late. She

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Speaker 1: But her daughter left behind some of her belongings, namely,

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Speaker 1: special guest today. I want to go quickly to doctor

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Speaker 1: Angel Arnold, now psychiatrist joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: You can find her at angela Arnold MD dot com.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Angie, quick question, have you ever been on vacation? Okay?

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Speaker 1: throw me a bone, Jason Campo. Is anything that could

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Speaker 1: another complication. And I don't want to refer to the

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Speaker 1: before the horse Stephanie Pagarnas, I cut you off at

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Speaker 1: lifestyle is significant. It sounds like she's a very responsible person,

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Speaker 1: and of course we don't know a lot of her background.

428
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: It it seems if we don't know a lot of

429
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: her background, her different relationships that she's been in. But

430
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: she certainly seems very responsible at this point because, like

431
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: you said, Nancy, I'm not sure how many people are

432
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: aware of how the kind of job that a paralegal does.

433
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: But it's a very important job and you have to

434
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: be really good at that job for somebody to keep

435
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: you around, because the lawyers depend very heavily on their paralegals.

436
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: That's my understanding. So she's got two children, she's living

437
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: with her mother, she's got a new car, she's got

438
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: a full time job. She's got a good degree from college.

439
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: It's not easy to get a psychology degree. Okay, So

440
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: all of these things indicate a stability in her life. Okay.

441
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to make the connection to victimology,

442
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: Jason Cambe. What I'm looking for. Everything that Angela Arnold

443
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: said is true, but it all equals to one thing,

444
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: low crime risk. But absolutely, she seems like a low

445
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: crime risk type of a victim. She is somebody that

446
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: is reliable. She's somebody that you can count on. The

447
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: fact that they sent somebody to her home tells me

448
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: that she's worked there long enough that they think that

449
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: it's odd or out of her behavior that she wouldn't

450
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: come in. We do the same thing here at our office.

451
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: If we can't get a hold of somebody by nine

452
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: o'clock nine thirty in the morning and we haven't heard

453
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: from them, we send an investigator or somebody to their

454
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: home to check and find out what's going on. Because

455
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: in order to maintain these jobs, I think you have

456
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: to be a reliable type of a person, and when

457
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: you do something like that, it sends up red flags

458
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: right away. Time stories with Nancy Grace. You know who's

459
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: making me mad? Is h Lill right now? Sherry Peppini?

460
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: Why because you heard Paul zyke as he rightfully should.

461
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Because this is always an avenue of investigation. Say, hey,

462
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe she went off on her own. I

463
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: don't think she did, because she's so attached to the

464
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: three year old and to the twelve year old. But

465
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: Sherry Peppini has forever muddied in the water because this

466
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: young soccer mom takes off and basically leads us all

467
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: on a wild goose chase. Although a lot of her

468
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: the story didn't fit together at the beginning, but she

469
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: shows up Thanksgiving Day, beaten up, branded, her body has

470
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: been branded, her haircut off, she's lost like thirty pounds,

471
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: her bones broken, claiming that she has been held by

472
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: two female sexist falters. Really none of that fit together.

473
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: She is forever tainted. No well, because now whenever a

474
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: mom goes missing, they go, h she's pulled up Appini.

475
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't think she has stefinitely begonis. Another thing that's

476
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: very troubling is this. Take a listen to our cut

477
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: ten our friends at crime online dot com. New information

478
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: shows that Chrissie Powell and the father of one of

479
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: her two children argued over tax messages. Powell had left

480
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: her phone at home the day she disappeared. Her mother,

481
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Claudia Mobley, told the son that her daughter had argued

482
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: with the father of the three year old. Mobley says

483
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: she doesn't know what the pair were arguing about, but

484
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: she adds that it wasn't unusual. Mobley says that she

485
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: doesn't think the X could have hurt her daughter, and

486
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: he has spoken to the police. I also suspect stephaniely

487
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Peguanus that he has the three year old because I

488
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: understand that Chrissie's mom is taking care. Had both the

489
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: children when Chrissie went missing, but now the most releasent

490
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: report is that she's taking care of the twelve year old.

491
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Where's three year old? Yes, so as of recently, I

492
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: would say as much as long as over the past year,

493
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Christie's ex has had the three year old in his care.

494
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: So at the time of her disappearance, it was the

495
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: twelve year old at home, and the twelve year old

496
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: is in Christie's mother's care while the three year old

497
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: is in Christie's x's care. So they bet you they

498
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: were arguing about custody and visitation. Because I can't stress enough.

499
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: They've just come off the July fourth weekend, you know.

500
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: To you Jason Campo, one of my best friends is

501
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: a female defense attorney and her specialty, I'm embarrassed to say,

502
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: is drugs. One headed cry to a drug lord. That's

503
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: her thing. She says she would rather try a drug

504
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: lord for murder than get involved in a domestic argument.

505
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: And we know of these two were arguing via text

506
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: and it had to be about the three year okis

507
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: what do they have to argue about other than they

508
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: don't live together, they've been separated for some time. What

509
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: else do they have to argue about. I mean, you

510
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: get between a mother and her baby, fur is gonna fly?

511
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Can I just say that, Campo? It definitely is a

512
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: correct statement. It's one of the things that you know,

513
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: everybody always says, like, oh, criminal law is difficult, and

514
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: aren't you worried about, you know, working in criminal law

515
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: and putting criminals in prison? And I always tell everybody,

516
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, I would much rather do what I do

517
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: than do family law and get in between a parent

518
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: and their child, right, because that seems way more dangerous

519
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: than working in criminal law. I mean, Paul's right, former

520
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: police commander. I've told my husband a million times, David,

521
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: I love you, but nothing can compare to the way

522
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: I feel about my children. I mean, don't even so

523
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: if they're arguing and they've got nothing else to argue about,

524
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: it's got to be about the three year old boy.

525
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: You know. Nancy definitely agree with that. It's going to

526
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: be something involving custody or visitation, something along those lines.

527
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you one thing that really rings true

528
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: in this and in many cases, is people do unexpected

529
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: things when you mix kids custody. Uh, you know, interpersonal

530
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: relationship dynamics. You find people, you know, kind of going

531
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: off the deep end. So when somebody like her mother

532
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: says yeah, they argue a lot me. You know, it's

533
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: not really alarming, it's kind of it's kind of normal. Yeah,

534
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: that might be normal for the last two years. But

535
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: one uh, you know, conduct inhibitor, which I like to say,

536
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: is one big thing like you're never going to see

537
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: your kids again, or you're I'm taking you to chord

538
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: for full custody or anything like that can trigger an event,

539
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: and that very well could be what happened in this incident.

540
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Very astute analysis guys, listen to our cut seven our

541
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: friends at crime online dot com. When Chrissy Powell didn't

542
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: show up at work, one of her colleagues went to

543
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: her Apple Creek home to check in on her. Powell's

544
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: oldest son, twelve years old, answered the door. When asked

545
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: if his mom was home, he replied, she's at work.

546
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: In a span of just three hours, Chrissie Powell disappeared.

547
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Claudia Mobley says her conversation with her daughter that morning

548
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: was nothing out of the ordinary. They exchanged morning greetings

549
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: followed by I'm leaving, I'm late and be careful, I

550
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: love you. Mobley saw her daughter drive away after the

551
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: colleagues's visit, and when her daughter didn't return home, Mowbiley

552
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: reported her daughter missing with the San Antonio Police Department

553
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: the next day. You know, it's interesting about that will

554
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: so many things. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists, joining us

555
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta jurisdiction and you can find her

556
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: at angela Arnold MD dot com, Doctor Angie. The dichotomy

557
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: of it being a normal morning, grabbing your stuff, running

558
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: out the door, you're late, saying bye, I love you,

559
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: be careful. It just brings back to mind the day

560
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: I learned my fiance have been murdered. I had been

561
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: in a statistics exam and I walked out and inside

562
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: it was an old building at Mercy University, and it

563
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: was dark in there in the hallway, and I walked

564
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: out and it was sunny and bright and beautiful. I

565
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: thought wow, and started walking to work. The dichotomy between

566
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: what feels to me a normal day and then all

567
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden your world blows up. Nobody is ready

568
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: for this. That mother and those two children are not

569
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: ready for this. It changes everything. Well, it knocks them

570
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: off their guard also, so first they're in shock about

571
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: what's happened, and they're kind of learning what's happened all along. Right,

572
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: It's not like you go, oh my god, she's been kidnapped,

573
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's run away. No, every day they're

574
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: wondering in their mind, oh, what in the world happened

575
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: to her? Why would do this? So people are trying

576
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: to gather evidence, but at the same time there's a

577
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: level of shock that's going on with the family. I

578
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: want to talk about those angry texts to Stephanie Pagonas,

579
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: crime reporter with Fox News Digital. On Twitter, you can

580
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: find her at step underscore Pegonas Stephanie the X The

581
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: father the three year old boy has spoken to police,

582
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: is my understanding. That's what reports say. Yes, although I

583
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: have not gotten a better idea from police about how

584
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: much they have spoken with this man or what he

585
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: has shared with them. Police. When I reached out to

586
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: them yesterday, they wouldn't tell me much in terms of

587
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: when she was reported missing or anything along those lines.

588
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get get a better idea today. I

589
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: also just want to say, Nancy, from what I'm told

590
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: from the family there are Christie's two sons have different fathers,

591
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: although I believe that the father of the twelve year

592
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: his son is not any picture. So it sounds to

593
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: me like the twelve the father of the twelve year

594
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: old is ruled out, and we are dealing with the

595
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: father of the three year old. The fact, to you,

596
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Paul Zyke, that he has we think, cooperated with police,

597
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: I find that significant. I don't know the level of cooperation,

598
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: but the fact that he spoke to them at all

599
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: is encouraging. Well, if he had any any reason to

600
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: do this, and if he had planned this out and

601
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: in fact was involved, he's probably gonna have a pretty

602
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: clear path in his head of what he needs to do.

603
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: He can't say, you know, look, I won't I won't

604
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: talk to you. He's gonna end up being a number

605
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: one suspect. And he knows that the reality is that

606
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: if you have a missing female, you look for the

607
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: male that she's either in a relationship with, was in

608
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: a relationship with. There's some male point of contact that

609
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: is probably going to lead you to where she's at,

610
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: and he would know that. So I'm not impressed with

611
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: he's cooperating with long and again we don't know the

612
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: level of cooperation. I mean, has he submitted to having

613
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: his home searched, his car searched, has he submitted to

614
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: letting his cell phone data be accessed? In other words,

615
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: triangulated where was he at the time she goes missing.

616
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean I would be on that like a cheap suit,

617
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: not because I know anything bad about him, but statistically, statistically,

618
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: Jason Campo, you look first at the lover boyfriend X.

619
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: It's always where you start. That's where you always start.

620
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: And he's got to acknowledge that because statistics are just

621
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: too overwhelming. Also, the ratio of stranger on stranger attacks

622
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: is much lower than attacks by somebody you know. Would

623
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: you agree with that, Jason, Absolutely? It almost always it's

624
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: a nine percent of the time it's somebody that you

625
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: know when there's an assault. Even if it's just a

626
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: friend on friend or somebody that you've been having issues

627
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: with over time, there's always that link. I think there's

628
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: so many things in this case that we don't know yet.

629
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Is there how long have they been separated? How long

630
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: has she been in a relationship with somebody else since

631
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: she was separated with him? And is that a person

632
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: that we should be looking at. There's so many different

633
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: things that we just don't know yet. The answer is

634
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: the car. In just seven miles, this young mother of two,

635
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Chrissie Powell, seemingly disappears. Find the car and we'll know

636
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: what happened to Chrissy. If you have information, please dial

637
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: to one zero two zero seven seven six six zero

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