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Speaker 1: TL man second day and a TIL has been a movie. Man.

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Speaker 1: We've just been knock the show out off to show

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Speaker 1: out classes right, cooking all classes only right that we

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Speaker 1: end this trip on a crazy note, man, playing on

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Speaker 1: learning a lot of new words to that. You know

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Speaker 1: on this show, somebody used the word that I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I asked what the definition is because you only know

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Speaker 1: if you asked. But we got my brother, Man, We've

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Speaker 1: been locked in for many ways. It is nine to five. Uh,

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Speaker 1: somebody that's always shown me love since I've been in

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Speaker 1: the smoke, my love and respect. Appreciate you all for

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Speaker 1: heavy man, Thanks for coming. Man. Let's get straight to it, man,

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Speaker 1: um just open trap cafe. Um, let's talk about that,

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Speaker 1: because I know I gotta pull up there and enjoy

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Speaker 1: some of the comedians and the good foods. You got

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Speaker 1: gonna tell them about the vibe, right O? Man? Try

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Speaker 1: to see the cafe just a place for us, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just a bad, bad eat, drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: Vocals enjoy. You know, I'm trying to enhance the human experience.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know what I'm saying. With phones

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Speaker 1: just trying to just do something to encourage that life. House,

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Speaker 1: family and life. We all know you big on family

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Speaker 1: and uh you know house life and family right now?

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Speaker 1: What new projects you got going on? Um Man, families,

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Speaker 1: great family, great kids are good. I'm blessed, blessed beyond measure.

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Speaker 1: UM project X got a film fear coming at Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Terrence J. Joseph's a coorra um Ruby any uh you

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Speaker 1: got King Badge? Um just the host of us, the

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Speaker 1: what trap is. A lot of people, UM learned that

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Speaker 1: where the word trap started. So could you help explain

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Speaker 1: Oh man, the turn trapped to me, you know, it

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Speaker 1: could be considered a double untendry because you know what

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Speaker 1: much philosophical presentation set to music, uh, outline and in detail,

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Speaker 1: and the life, lifestyle and experiences of a druid deal

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Speaker 1: but what we what we do have? And I believe

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Speaker 1: Microsoft is coming. And they bought Overlook Overlooking Lona. I

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Speaker 1: say that Kilo and Sammy, Sam kroll so Outcasts and

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Speaker 1: a privilege to be acknowledged and considered amongst the elite, um,

427
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: amongst your peers and constituents, you know what I mean. Um,

428
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: So I value all of them collectively and individually. UM.

429
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: I probably say that the moment that that stands out

430
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: to me, the Grammy moment that stands at is the

431
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: swagger like us performed, Yeah, I mean, which we also

432
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: took home from whole well for that that that that year. Um,

433
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: that to me was like, you know, I don't think

434
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: it's been another moment like that since I was. I mean,

435
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: that was my next question was, I mean, what was

436
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: the creative process like that coming up? I mean, obviously

437
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: that song is you Jay, Wayne, Are you guys all

438
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: on the studio together? So and in versus how is

439
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: that working? Now? Man? I had, like, you know, some

440
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: m unique conditions at the time, you know what I'm saying.

441
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: That down necessarily allowed me, you know, to make myself

442
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: available for everybody. But what happened was okay, So Um,

443
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: so we're working on the album, um, paper Trail, and

444
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: you know we have a lot of records. This you know, bankers,

445
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: you already got, like what's up was having? We already

446
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: had records like my Life You're Entertainment, We already had

447
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: uh whatever you like, you know what I'm saying. Um,

448
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: at the last couple of weeks of the deadline of

449
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: the album is always like you know, one or two

450
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: to just takes the album to another level. So those

451
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: two records that came in the lad minute Swigger like

452
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Us and Live Your Life, Yeah, I mean three three

453
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: and didn't gone just just some blood, just timber la Um.

454
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Those records came like in the last two weeks of

455
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: us wrapping the album up. And so initially, man, Kanye

456
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: here J got me to beat when he's simple h M.

457
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: I A's paper Planes, you know, which was a huge,

458
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: huge international hit record at the time. Um, and it

459
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: was just ya excuse me. It was a beat produced

460
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: by YEA and I put three verses on it. And

461
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: then I think g Roberson, who's you know, my A

462
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: and R and would later become my manager. He Um,

463
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: he said, oh yeah, you got a verse. I said, Okay,

464
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: bet so then you got me here verse I took

465
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: one of my verses off and then you just listened

466
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: to it and say, you know what to be dope,

467
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: if I could get Wayne and Jail here, I say,

468
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: make the got it right, ain't going to do that.

469
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: And he was like, nah, for real, just let me work,

470
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Let me work. So you know, we held it so

471
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: for for a long time it was just me and

472
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Yate on the record, right and in the lead two

473
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: weeks we got all the verses. Yeah, I mean and

474
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: uh that she was just you know it was it

475
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: was unspeakable magic. It was unspeakable. It was magic. You

476
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: could tell, like, you know, this ship I don't not posed.

477
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: This ain't posed to be happening for real. You know

478
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: there's the stars in the moon and landing in my

479
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: favor of the universe is shining down on me the

480
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: way it came together. Yeah, obviously you can make hits

481
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: when they're sent and and your and your conditions don't

482
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: allow you to move freely. When your conditions do allow

483
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: you to move freely, and you're able to get in

484
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the studio with an artist, explain the difference in the

485
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: energy when you're in there with somebody rather than having

486
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: the sample sent to you with to be honest with you, man,

487
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when I was well on house

488
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: arrests and working on the like when I did the

489
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: I guess the the body of the work that that

490
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: that became paper trail. When I did the first like

491
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen songs when I'm on house arrest, that was

492
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: the most thought I ever put into my lyrics because

493
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: when I can't just say no, why she I'm already

494
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on supervide release, got all kinds of

495
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: fiends and she you know, looking at so I gotta

496
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: say what I want to say, but be very careful

497
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: in my delivery. Saw a song like What's Up? What's Handing?

498
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: It was very difficult to do. You know what I'm

499
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: saying because you know this happened when uh I found

500
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: that that that me and Low had some issues. And

501
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you so the funny ship ill so

502
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Lower and I had issue. But because he was upset

503
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: that or he didn't he didn't agree with me not

504
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: getting on a song that he wanted me to get

505
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: on um and he felt like you should just be

506
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: like yo, I asked you to do it you do.

507
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm like NA, but for real, I don't like the song.

508
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: So then, you know, the back and forth led to

509
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: all I will fifty thousand men, and so you know,

510
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: he he kind of took that, you know, he took

511
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: that the ward and cut too. We go to Club Cruiser,

512
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: which is my club time by the way, uh shout

513
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: a low and up and he played bum bum bum

514
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: bum bam bam bam bam bam bam bloom hell the

515
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and I see him performing that

516
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: ship for the first time. And then I see him

517
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: perform done, done it all, and I say, I leave

518
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the VFP and go meet him at the stage. I say, Nickeld,

519
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: that's it. Them the ones right there, them the songs,

520
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: and then I got them funk around called a k

521
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: own house of read and find out them sucking songs

522
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: was about to me. I didn't complimented the man, but

523
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I genuinely liked the right the first songs, you know,

524
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: because I mean I had been counted up, I guess,

525
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: conditioning myself and and and preparing myself lyrically create creatively

526
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: for my moment. So you know what I'm saying, My

527
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: my my opinion and my skin, like my expectation of

528
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: myself was just at a grade level. Right. So some

529
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: ship I just went fucking with and it took people

530
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: like you know, like Low and other people. It took

531
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: them a minute to kind of like catch a stride

532
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: and to get you know, they always Low always had

533
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: the people. But because he really he bought what he said,

534
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: he back and he from where he saved from and

535
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: the whole community knows, you know, so he always had

536
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: the support, but the skill set and the the he

537
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: had to be surrounded with the producers and it just

538
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: had to had to grow into the moment that would

539
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: would allow me to include myself in. Um So when

540
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: I heard those songs, I was like, you know, I

541
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: found your pocket. Yeah, I mean literally did I know?

542
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Songs directly directly at me. But I never took it

543
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: like really personal. I never took it really personal because

544
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: I understood I understood what what what this represented? You

545
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, uh, because you you you you

546
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: you you spent a lot of time on the West Side.

547
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: You understand bank kids is split into sad. When you

548
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: said it must be too sad. Yes, it's the projects

549
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: in the back streets. You see what I'm saying. So

550
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: lowers from born homes, so you got boring homes. You

551
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: got bank kid caught you got you know what I mean,

552
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: like projects his own bank kids, that's yeah, it's gone.

553
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: And told them that you know, you know, they're gonna

554
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: be some nice condominiums. But um, people from the project

555
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: is always historically help you know, looked at people from

556
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: the back streets like, yo, y'all didn't go to for real,

557
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: y'all living in nice houses and ship you know what

558
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you ain't got no you know. Uh. And

559
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: and people live in the back street like ship, and

560
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: they would be in the same ghetto, you man, you

561
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just up the street. So it

562
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: is two sides, um. But I understood what that represented, right,

563
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: so I never took it personally. We always maintained the

564
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: mutual respect for one another. Um. And we used to

565
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: just talk on the phone throughout the beef, if you

566
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: were we like we talk on the phone and and

567
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: he say, yeah, yeah, you know I got something for

568
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: you man. I say, man, you know I'm ready for

569
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: it whenever it gets here, right, And you say, see see,

570
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: And I don't like your the only thing you could

571
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: do and I can't do. It's talk. That's all you

572
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: could do. It's talk. I say, well, if that's all

573
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: it takes while you don't learn how to talk, then

574
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: so we'll just go back and forth exchanging with you

575
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, banter on the phone. Uh. But

576
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: I really did respect him, Bro. I respect him because

577
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: because he took his vision and he took the talent

578
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: and capabilities and the things that he had, never mind

579
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: what he didn't, he took what he had utilized it,

580
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: maximized the opportunity and turned it into some legendary ship.

581
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's like, you know, of all of

582
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: the beefs and squirmishes and disagreements that I've been in,

583
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: that was my most respectable one. You know what I'm saying.

584
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: That was the one that I really really did respect.

585
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that before he passed we got a

586
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: chance to. You know, he became my neighbor. I was

587
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: getting out of prison. I found out he bought the

588
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: house up the street from me. You know what I'm saying,

589
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm down, I'm working at it's a little so we

590
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: live on a lake. Uh and and it's a point

591
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: where you can put your boat on the lake if

592
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: you don't actually live and got a dock and so

593
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: it's like a little parking level. We used to go

594
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: ranch sprints and work out and ship. So I see

595
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: him pulling in. I see another nigga, you know who

596
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the funk else is over here looking like this, These

597
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: west side niggas right here. What they're doing over here?

598
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: And I looked my kuders and say, that's low so

599
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: your bullshit? So he see me. I see him, and

600
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: it's like right after I got out of prison, so

601
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: fresh out of whatever the beef was supposed to be.

602
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: And and I walked up to him for a thing.

603
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: He said, Man, what's happen? And welcome home? And you know,

604
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: we dapped up, just start talking about fatherhood, talking about yeah,

605
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And you know we was

606
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: We were solid from that point forward. Mentioned a few names.

607
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: You tell me the impact of Atlanta and some of

608
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: the favorite projects from these people out casts man, legends

609
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: like goats, I could they are they are the Pitacle,

610
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's the holy Grail. You

611
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: did favorite I don't know, man, the whole discography. I'm

612
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to go. I'm gonna go with the first

613
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: with Southern players. Listen, I'm gonna do I mean, that's everybody, yeah,

614
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: to change to change man. That's that's, that's, that's that's

615
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: one of the most uh prolific businessman. You see what

616
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was a Benny man before it was

617
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: a round. You know, were't gonna speak too much of it,

618
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I bro was in

619
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: the studio before he were recording in the students. Uh.

620
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: And again, Hustler's mentality took what he had, you know

621
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and turned it into an empire. And

622
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: that's just you know, you can't say enough about that.

623
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: That's you know that that that level of I guess

624
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: tenacity should be acknowledging and and hell in high regard

625
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: future um present day. I can like he's basically taking

626
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: everything that everybody else before him has done for the

627
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: city and putting an exclamation on top of you know,

628
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: and he's doing it. He's doing it and presently in

629
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: grand fashion with with with with hits, you know, with numbers, touring,

630
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, just the the leadership

631
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: of a whole generation, you know what I mean, Like,

632
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: and she is beautiful to see one of this name

633
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: up and to said, I wish I would have could

634
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: have got a mixed tape of something from y'all. Jess h.

635
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: Every time y'all get together, it's over man, y'all man, listen, man,

636
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: that's my partner, right. So, uh I met y'all early

637
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: on before he was he was still I think it

638
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: called him Jay or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

639
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: he was. It was way before the snowman like it was.

640
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: And we have a mutual acquaintance in Big Meach and

641
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: so I knew Meach already, and you know, we all

642
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: frequent the clubs and ship together. And uh I remember

643
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: seeting across the stage from them in Magic City before

644
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: the before the innovation Look Catwalk to Look cat Walk

645
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: came down. That was it. So I'm sitting across from

646
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: there and he climbed up over on the stage and

647
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, brain Jesus would saying. Man.

648
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Then I got Jake, you know what I mean, And

649
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, he rapping in and I'm like, yeah, okay,

650
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: another rapper, all right, good, you know, and he kind

651
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: of took that like ship, and bro, what's up? What's it?

652
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, man, I I see, we'll see

653
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: where it where. It turned out to beat. I was real,

654
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, arrogant in my in my day, and I

655
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: end up going to jail when I got that he

656
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: had done, took off with with the mixtapes and she

657
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: with the snowman she, And when I got out, I said,

658
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I need to do a recompetition to you.

659
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, this is motherfucking ship.

660
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: He got it. And I remember him. He didn't already

661
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: told the story, so I ain't saying then, you know,

662
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: and privileged. Um. I remember seeing them, meeting them in

663
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: the studio after I got out, and I remember he had,

664
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, he had some people in there that I knew,

665
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: that people. I know what they're on, and he had,

666
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, some material that I recognize. And I said,

667
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: I said, bro, coming right quick, man, listen, you gotta

668
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: let one go. I can't. You can't play at this

669
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: level and still play at this level and expect them

670
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: not to cross collateralize. You can't hold on to the

671
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: grass and reach for the stalls. And you got to

672
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: let one go. And you know at the time he

673
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: looked at me like shit and I you know, and

674
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: his his his his exact word was sick. Ain't you doing? Both?

675
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Say no, bro, I let that ship go a long

676
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: time ago. It was some Hongry Knights. That was my sacrifice.

677
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know that what I

678
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: did to show the universe that I really wanted it.

679
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: Um and and as legit tires, you know, that conversation

680
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: led to him, you know, inevitably taking the wraps it

681
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: a lot more serious. Stop u last guc man mm

682
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: hmm man guccer Main is also a legend. You can't

683
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: take enough. You can't take anything away from where he represented,

684
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: where he brought to the city. UM definitely put the

685
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: East Side on the map, you know what I mean,

686
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: he would definitely. And it was in a time where

687
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: it was number with side action going on, you know,

688
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: when he came and stood on business. Uh you know,

689
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean right, a wrong. You can't take away from

690
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: from from his his contributions, his contribution to the court

691
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: and what he meant to the city. What he means

692
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, to the to the legacy of the city.

693
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Even if we don't see out how all the time

694
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: still got the know we still got to acknowledge the

695
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: contributions that were made to the culture because that benefits

696
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: the city as a whole. A lot of our contributions

697
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: collectively and individually, it's all for what's best for a level.

698
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, two thousand six you started acting a

699
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: t l mm hmm. What was the process and that

700
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: and what made you interested in and it makes you

701
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: interested in acting? Man, just to be on it with

702
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: you bro again watching people who had came before me,

703
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: A little cool j ice q tupop ice tea, you

704
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's a natural evolution if you're

705
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: doing this at a you know, at a accelerated level,

706
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: and the natural transition is to go into acting. And

707
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: so that was always on my checklist. And as I'm

708
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, making my rounds are just coming up, uh

709
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: In in my in my journey, Um Dallas Austin, he came.

710
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I got this movie I'm doing.

711
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I want you to read for it all. I bet uh,

712
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: he said, But you gotta learn how to play the drums.

713
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: H I learned how to play the drum. It's acting though, right,

714
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: He's like, now you need to learn how to play

715
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: the drum, say man, nah, but I went and read

716
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: for it anyway. Uh that with drum Line, I didn't

717
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: get that one. You know, some nick named Nick Kennon

718
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: came yeah, I mean, uh but but but the next

719
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: movie he had at off of the success of drum

720
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Line gave him the opportunity to do his second piece.

721
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: And at the drum Line, I walked up to him

722
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: in the club, I say, and I ain't reading for

723
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: the next one. He's even gonna have to go and

724
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: get me roll and you know, but this is like

725
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: while I'm kind of you know, I'm feeling myself a

726
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, I've got my chicks at and

727
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: he said, all right, cool. When I get a script

728
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: and near thing, we get a green that don't need trip,

729
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you got it? And um that that that that film

730
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: was at the time called Jellybeans after the skaing ring

731
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: in the Swash in the in uh late seventies and eighties,

732
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and I believe some kind of way it got into

733
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: the hands of will Smith. Will Smith and Overbrook as

734
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: a production company came in and kind of like Green

735
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: Lidded and Dallas had I always said, yo, tip is

736
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be the start this because I think a

737
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. But that's that's like Dallas's

738
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: story as I mean him and t Bas from TLC.

739
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: I believe t Bas was new new if I ain't mistaken,

740
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: and Dallas was shure. I believe you know, it's just

741
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: uh folklore, urban legend. If you so, Dallas that I

742
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: already said, yo, this is supposed to be re shod.

743
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: But I'm a first time actor, and no major movie

744
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: studio gives the first time actor the you know, the

745
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: responsibility of carrying a lead role. And we had the

746
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: first time director in Chris Robinson Um. So they were

747
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: pushing back, man, now we need to find somebody a

748
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: little more seasons, a little more poised, and and Will

749
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: Smith said, well, if he's not gonna play for sure,

750
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't I don't want to

751
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: produce the movie. So Will came in and really really

752
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: put his you know, he put it. He put his

753
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: his reputation on the line for me to be with

754
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: shared and a t L. So that was my introduction

755
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: into f I'm gonna got five the first day, almost

756
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: got five, almost didn't it? Almost did not happen because

757
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: I so okay, now, man, you it's my first film.

758
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm a first time actor and and I'm pretty new too.

759
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: I guess show business altogether, but I'm coming into a

760
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: certain level of says I think I might have made

761
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: eighty five thousand, a hundred and thirty thousand to do

762
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: a TL I had y gotta ten million, I a check,

763
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: and then another five million. I a chick, And I'm like,

764
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up. I remember we had these these roller

765
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: skates lessons, like practices, like a you know, every for

766
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: six weeks before we started shooting. We had to learn

767
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: how to skate and ship. Man, I'm coming late, blowing,

768
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: blowing smoke out of fathom and you know what I'm saying,

769
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: this is totally not the leadership that they expected from,

770
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, from the lead actor of this film. And

771
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: when we started shooting. You know, film, the film industry

772
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: has to work promptly on time. You gotta show up

773
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: on time. You gotta be prepared, you gotta be ready

774
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: because it's not just you, it's a whole crew, a

775
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: team of people. They got to show up and be

776
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: focused and be on time in order for this to

777
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: be achieved. It's how I shall have forty five minute later. Like, man,

778
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I show up to a consert forty five minute later.

779
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: That's literally that's pretty much on time. Man. It's like, yo,

780
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: so we're gonna fire you, right, and we're just gonna

781
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: reshoot everything, and my first thing will fucking fire me.

782
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't care. And Chris Robinson came and saw me

783
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and he said, bro, listen. And Chris Robinson also shot

784
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: my first video. I'm serious being the man. So we

785
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: had a report all he said, Bro, it's not just you,

786
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: it's me. I'm a first time director. You got other

787
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: first time actors like like Evan Ross, Diana Ross's son,

788
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: He's and you know, if Will first time producer. So

789
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to show up man, and we're

790
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: gonna need you to lead us to the finish line.

791
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 1: And so I kind of, you know, I started looking

792
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: at it a little different, you know what I mean.

793
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: I had a real individual mentality going into it. But

794
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: after that conversation with Chris and Childie Matt by the way,

795
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: also Childie Matt, after having old conversations it, I felt

796
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: a different sense of responsibility, you know what I mean.

797
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like I was responsible for

798
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: the sussist or to fail you, but it fel And

799
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was on time from that day for

800
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: um funny thing about a t L that you probably

801
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: don't The ending was totally common deered by me, Chris Robinson,

802
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: Evan Rolphs, Lauren London, totally not what's on. You will

803
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: not find the script for the end of that movie

804
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: if you look at the script for what The script

805
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: was entitled Jellybean. But if you look at that script,

806
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the script, the movie wipposed to

807
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: be back me making up with my friends and going

808
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: back to win the skate competition. And we saw the

809
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: film and the first thing I said, I said, Chris,

810
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: this ain't ship about to give a funk about no

811
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: goddamn skate competition. Man, what's going on? You got real

812
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: ship going on? What about the boy? What about Evan?

813
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: And and the money? Did he old big? But what then?

814
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: What that's the story? That's that's the uh? I can

815
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I say the gravitas that you need to pull in

816
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: the people of the community that this story is supposed

817
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: to represent, you know what I mean? And we're substance

818
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: the substance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so of course you

819
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: know we we we first thing, he said, well, man,

820
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: the studio never approved. I said, what ship, let's get

821
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: it done. So what we did well, and please don't

822
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: do this. This is not fair, there's not good practice.

823
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: Don't do this. Um. But what we did well. Told

824
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: the studio we were doing reshoots for the scenes that

825
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: already existed. So they set up two days for the reshoots,

826
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: and we just totally redid the end of the movie

827
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: the ship where he walked out and spilled the milk,

828
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: when I throw the money in Big westphads him getting shock,

829
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: going to the high pitar. All that was totally off script.

830
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: One brothers had no idea. They've seen the movie. They say,

831
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: how fucking dare you take god fucking money and do

832
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: what you want? And you know, I just here behind creation.

833
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Is it good? Though? You

834
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They said they'd be happy if

835
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: they made eight million dollars off of a t L total.

836
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: I think we did like fourteen sixteen million the thir week.

837
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: But the audacity of go make this movie a better movie.

838
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: But sent you know what I mean, a little fun,

839
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: fat oh seven American Gangster with Denzel What that's like?

840
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: What was that like big school with big schools, your

841
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: big boy parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah that was big school man.

842
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: That was in Timid Dane. In Timid Dane like like

843
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of like, damn me, You sure you know what

844
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Um? Yeah, Russell Crowe Rizzle directed by Ridley Scott,

845
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: same Gladiator for real me, Denzel Common, Chua Tail Ruby d.

846
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So many legendary Cuba Good Jr.

847
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: So many legendary actors and actresses that that were called upon,

848
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: and I was included. I was a little overwhelmed. I

849
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: ain't gonna cap you down. I remember I remember the

850
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: first well, the scene that I was supposed to be

851
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: doing with Denzel. Um, when we're sitting outside in the yard.

852
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: I want to be like you uncle Frank. Yeah, we'll

853
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: actually where they cut from me, like catching the base

854
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: something like that. And I sit down and we go

855
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: through it like a little rehearsal. And then you know

856
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: why they're sitting up the cameras and Ship. I'm pacing

857
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: back and forth, you know what I mean. I'm like

858
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: talking to myself and Ship. And then then I say, hey,

859
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: what's up. You're nervous? I say, man, kind of brought you.

860
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: They don't want to just just just don't want to

861
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: suck it up. You don't want to suck it up.

862
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: You say, fuck it up. You say, hey, listen, let

863
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Look around. They could have had

864
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: anybody do what you're doing right now. They could have

865
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: put anybody in this position. It could have put anybody

866
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: right here, couldn't They said, yeah, he said, they chose you,

867
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't he? I said yeah. He said, do you know why?

868
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Do you know why they chose you? I said, yeah,

869
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: I think so. He said, okay, well, if you know

870
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: why they chose you, get your ass in and do that.

871
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: You ain't got nothing to be nervous about. And so

872
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: you know, after that, we went in then and did

873
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: you know, did the same, and I think we one

874
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: took it. I think it was like one take and

875
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: of safety. Yeah, I mean, but he really really spoke, man,

876
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: He spoke life into meat at the time, because for

877
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: him to even look at me out of and you

878
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, respect my craft enough and respect

879
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: you know me enough as an actor. Especially this is

880
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: when a lot of you know, a lot of uh

881
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: a lot of formal or should I say, first trade actors.

882
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: We're looking at rappers who get movies kind of like

883
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Uh So for him to

884
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: even take the time to pour into me and give

885
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: me some game, right then, that took me a long way.

886
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: How hard now you've been in comedy? Now? How hard

887
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: were you laughing on set with Will Farell and Kevin

888
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: bro I couldn't keep a straight faith, man, laugh. I

889
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: couldn't keep a straight faith. I probably would have been

890
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: in the movie a lot more if I wouldn't laughing.

891
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: And the camera's on me so much, you know what

892
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Uh, Man, you can't Kevin Hard funny? He can't.

893
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: He can't not be funny, right yeah? I mean, and

894
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: we're fair the same thing. Man, You get these motherfucker's together.

895
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: That ship was just hilarious. There was a lot of

896
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: ship that they did on days. I wasn't there. Well,

897
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I saw the move. I was like, god, damn, what

898
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: the fuck? But you know, pushing the limits is where

899
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: you know that would make comedy, that would make it great. Um,

900
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: But that was a phenomenal opportunity that that that Kevin

901
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: Hard pretty much. Man. He pretty much it ushered me

902
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: into that, you know, I mean, uh, he said, Man,

903
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy right here, this is you all day.

904
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: I just need you to come and be you. That's here,

905
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: all right, cool, let's do it. I was around a

906
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: little bit around the time BMF was here. Yours magical moment. Man,

907
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about great years. What's your assessment on um

908
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: bmm fifty cent? How accurate is that to you? How? What?

909
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: How act? Well? Well, listen, First of all, I'm looking

910
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: and learning about a lot of days before I met.

911
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't in Detroit, you know what I'm saying. I mean,

912
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: I remember him as like, you know, one of the

913
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: first niggles who had been in the city. You know

914
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Oh, Rover, I don't remember, but he

915
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: had you know what I'm saying. He was just always

916
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: known as a quiet motherfucker who had you know, had

917
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: the paper. And I don't know what happened before he

918
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: made it to Atlanta. So presently right now, what I'm

919
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: saying is teaching me a little game in a different

920
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: level of understanding and a different level of appreciation. Yeah,

921
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: and I think you know, you can't say enough about

922
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: fifty for putting his name, his reputation, relationships together on

923
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: behalf of somebody like meat. And even to take the

924
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to pour into little meat. Yeah, I mean, that's

925
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: the biggest part, to pour in the little meat and

926
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: put him again first time after leading wrote you see

927
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's a lot of trust. That's a

928
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: lot of trust. That's a lot of risk, ye, I mean,

929
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: and to make it work the way that that has

930
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: been wildly successful is it's you know, I think that's

931
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: commendable at the least. Um, you and your wife both

932
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: obviously public figures. You made the decision as a family

933
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: too through the reality TV thing, and I had a

934
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: small text of that. And realize once you open that

935
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: book there ain't no shot and everything is judged and scrutinized.

936
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from actually letting people all

937
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: the way in? Let's see the first thing? You're right, okay,

938
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: so us both being celebrities. You know, it's hard to

939
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: enjoy the union when he married to another celebrity. Did

940
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: I always remind you they were famous before? What I'm saying, like,

941
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: it's difficult to really enjoy it, you know, um and

942
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: behind it with your man family hustle of the concept.

943
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: It was kind of conceptualized while I was in prison

944
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: the second time. Um, so I was really kind of

945
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: like kicking myself in the ass. When I went back

946
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: to prison the second time, I was real, you know,

947
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: you can heal? Like the album No Mercy, I was like,

948
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: man ship, I would really discourage it. How long was

949
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: you in there for? I ain't do but let us Yeah,

950
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I did Lettlemon tim up the first time, little much

951
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: a second time. So, but I would really discourage it

952
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: because I got that my fur did drop takers number

953
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: one movie, beat out The Exorcist, number one film in

954
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: the country. Had Jay got married, I didn't didn't get

955
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: a chance to go to a honeymoon because I had to,

956
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, do press for taking Open Dick to number

957
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: one film in the country, and in the midst of

958
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: the celebration for being a number one film in the country,

959
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: get pulled over with a goddamn peel in my pocket.

960
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: And I had no idea that mother, I don't kinda fund.

961
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Did a pill appear in my fucking pocket? A loose

962
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: pell you know what pill? Had I known that pill,

963
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: that would have do that mother going back would have

964
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: had you know, a different conversation. But but I mean, man,

965
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was it was the universe

966
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: sitting me down because I needed to learn. I needed to,

967
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: I need I need this require to yeah. Uh and

968
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: I needed I needed to to train myself in a

969
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: different aspect of my life. Um. And that's what that's

970
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: what ended up happening. Uh. So when I was when

971
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: I went back to prison the second time, it was

972
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: just very tumultuous, if you will, um, it's difficult at

973
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: virtuals tomortuus um. And we just needed I would just

974
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: notice like everything that was written about me was only

975
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: being written about like small indiscretions like I probably had

976
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: done had years and years of community service, giving back,

977
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: trying to you know what I'm saying, mentor to youth,

978
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, just just doing everything I can to kind

979
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: of you know, community development with with new finished constructions

980
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: and whno, and everything that we're being spoken about about

981
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: me during that time was all about indiscretion this time

982
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: and an indiscretion last time. So we felt like, man,

983
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: we need to put something else on people's masks. So um,

984
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: Chris abrego, Uh, in my and my agent manager at

985
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: the time. They came and saw me and it was like, yo,

986
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: we already got the show, so we just need you

987
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: to say yeah, yeah, like yeah, but what's the show?

988
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: What's just like, man, we just just gon you how

989
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: you balance being a family man and and and a

990
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: business man and you know, a musician, and like, all right, cool.

991
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: We still didn't know what the show was. It wasn't

992
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: until well first, so it picked me up from prison

993
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: in a bus and I got sent back to prison

994
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: because they said I wasn't supposed to leave in a

995
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: tour bus. M hm hm, you know I did two weeks.

996
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I was. I'm still locked up no matter

997
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: where you put me. But when we got home and

998
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: when they saw Tamika and how you know how much

999
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: of a star she was? When they saw uh, Major,

1000
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: how much of a star he wore that first episode

1001
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: where he said get you know what I mean? And

1002
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I didn't even know Major to

1003
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: be this animated like. And I learned a lot of

1004
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: my kids because there are times where they would be

1005
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: shooting their own scenes and they would talk just like

1006
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, brother and sister, brother and brother talking and

1007
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know the this this side

1008
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: of them, and when when the people saw it, they

1009
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: became the stars at that point, you know. I mean,

1010
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: so that's when we knew what the show up. The

1011
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: show is about the family. I just happened to be

1012
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: in the family. You know. It's almost like me fighting

1013
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: have I'm a big deal. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1014
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: that's what your head down, you know what I mean.

1015
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: So that's what the show became. Um. But but you know,

1016
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: over the course, you know what I'm saying, I think, man,

1017
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't regret it because it documented a time like

1018
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: most people don't get a chance to document their children

1019
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: growing up. Like season not the season, not the season,

1020
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: that's the season. That's a hell of a photo family

1021
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: photo album. Yeah, I mean, seas you guys do with

1022
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: that team, I think, yeah, I think thirteen. So I

1023
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't regret it, but I do, you know, I

1024
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: do recognize the coins of the pro you know. I mean,

1025
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: I do see motherfucker's beat in your business. You know

1026
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. People you don't even know saying, hey,

1027
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: what made you? Because that's my favorite I'm like, okay,

1028
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: thank you, you know, And it were telling me and

1029
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: my wife be going through stuff. Old ladies say, listen,

1030
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: get back with your with your family, man your business lady.

1031
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: H But I guess it takes a village. So you

1032
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that ship. But all in all,

1033
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: it beat the m matches fatherhood, your kids taking their

1034
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: journeys and and and seeing and learning, and obviously you,

1035
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: you and your wife working hard so that you could

1036
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: provide a better upbringing for them. Explain your journey with

1037
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: each of them, because it's been again well documented. And

1038
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: I remember the one thing was it did you do

1039
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: it on social media where you caught major smoking the

1040
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: joint in the spa of the first time agent has

1041
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: not smoking the joint yet. Did I know who'd you

1042
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: catching the spa? You thought that was king? A King

1043
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: said nothing, Yeah, that's what I was that on your

1044
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, but see what happened, Well, we was

1045
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: on vacation, and so what I was talking about during

1046
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: that live was these rich kids. They all they do is,

1047
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, live off the fat of the landing, got

1048
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: the they ain't got to work from that. And he

1049
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: happened to have been with his shirt off like scarf face.

1050
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: It was a perfect time back, like he didn't paid

1051
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: for everything. And I went to show him being getting

1052
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: the jacuza and this Nick is smoking the joint. I

1053
01:06:54,200 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: ain't even smoking, and you know, you know, I guess

1054
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: the cat was released that that bag day and that's

1055
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: the fird time I'd ever seen him smoking, you know,

1056
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: Uh fatherhood on the floor. Yeah, bro. But at the

1057
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, I think about how

1058
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: I was when that was his age, twelve times worst

1059
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: he did, you know, And I just you know, I understand.

1060
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: I think he had some sort of like a survivor's

1061
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: remorse a little bit because he he you know, as

1062
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: as a fluent and opulent as he grew up, as

1063
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: all the access to relationships, resources and just you know,

1064
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that he grew up. Uh, he doesn't want

1065
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: that to precede his true character, his moral He don't

1066
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: want to lean on you know, being celebrity kid. He

1067
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: don't want to lean on living in the mansion of

1068
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: being richie. Like like, yo, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1069
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: stand on I'm gonna stand on my own and I'm

1070
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna have my integrity intact, and I want my respect

1071
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: to speak for me. You know, but I don't know

1072
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: how he got the ops. I don't know how. But

1073
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: you know our fans though with King, no bro, You know,

1074
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: I love King and all of my children, all seven

1075
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: of them, got a different part of me, a different

1076
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: case of my personality, each of them. And I don't

1077
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: know how it happened like that, like each of them,

1078
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: like almost almost like the time they spent with me.

1079
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: It took the parts of my personality that they felt

1080
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: like applied to them and and like, well, I don't

1081
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: need the rest of this ship. I take this and

1082
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: you know if it don't apply to the fly. Um. King,

1083
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: however he got that dope boys in the trap. Still

1084
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: ain't forgave myself till you know what I'm saying. He

1085
01:08:54,240 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: reminds me the mirror he reminds me of myself during

1086
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: the time of my life, I made the most mistakes

1087
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: that could have ever possibly made. And I love him,

1088
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: I respect his heart. Um, I'm worried about him because

1089
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: the three things can do. Man, When I say King

1090
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna have trouble on his hand, it's three things he

1091
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: do they worry. I mean one travel with a pack

1092
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: of niggers. You feel me and he the only rich one.

1093
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: And well actually now with him and too you know now,

1094
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: at least now I feel a little bit better. But

1095
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, me and Booster still got bumped out of

1096
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: head against the wild. We have never been as close,

1097
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now, we got to get there,

1098
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: collaborate on how to deal with these But so he

1099
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: run with a pack of niggers. He talked so much

1100
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: old the time you hear him for you him, you

1101
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And he don't listen to that

1102
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: out of spite if you tell him, if you tell

1103
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: him do it this way, he gonna do it that way,

1104
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: just to show you that he could be done. And

1105
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: those three things scared me the most about him, you

1106
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know, through the grace

1107
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: of God, I think we're gonna get passion and get

1108
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: through it because I see the motherfucker who were way

1109
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: worse than him make it. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1110
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: Good Stack got to share a moment with his daughter

1111
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: at the the George Foyd march Uk here in Atlanta.

1112
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: You're a part of that. Can you guys elaborate on

1113
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: what that experience was like? The money was with you

1114
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: that day? Yeah, yeah. That's what really got me kind

1115
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: of in the social activism, like when my daughters and

1116
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: my sons like, but that, what does this mean? Like

1117
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: why I ain't really got no else's you know what

1118
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean? And because I remember the money that same

1119
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: mor as the mindy said well what can we do?

1120
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: What can we do? Said Ship? We speak at we

1121
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: we we we just rebel And he said how. I said,

1122
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: well listen, Marge going on there, you're gonna go? He said, yeah,

1123
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: said we pulled over sent tenor Paul got in the mix.

1124
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: That's how I happened, you know what I mean. And

1125
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: then after the march we marched all the brain and Ship.

1126
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: Then we came back to Centennia and sat on the

1127
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: bench and then the whole crowd looked at me. I

1128
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: right till what's next? What's next? Ship? Just you know

1129
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: what I mean? And then that you know that kind

1130
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: of you know, just you know, turn start spinning my

1131
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: wheels and like, man, if people looking to me for

1132
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: what's next, I got the least start thinking about it,

1133
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: you know, and and speaking out using my influence, using

1134
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: the platform that has been that I've been blessed with,

1135
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: to all be a voice for the vo US list. Yeah,

1136
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and and that's really what started. I'm gonna

1137
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: tell you what got me out of it. Um seeing

1138
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: how many of the people you're actually fighting to try

1139
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: to help, how many of them are willing to go

1140
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: above and beyond to destroy you. I ain't worried about

1141
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 1: the enemy. I'm not worried about the enemy. I already

1142
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: know what the enemy is capable of. I expect the

1143
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: enemy to be is treacherous, deceitful, and and and you know,

1144
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: as dastardly as they could possibly be. They've shown time

1145
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: and time again what they capable of. I'm expecting that.

1146
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: But the motherfucker's standing next to me, to my left,

1147
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: to my right, you know what I mean, who would

1148
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: rather destroy me to please the enemy then assist me

1149
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: and overthrow or assist me, and and you know, trying

1150
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: to bring about change? Um Man, that she is? That

1151
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: that that was really discouraging, you know what I mean?

1152
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: That ship really hurt. So I just pulled back, you know,

1153
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: I just man might business now. Yeah, I mean, and

1154
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about, because you know,

1155
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: a lot of the times when you speak up with people,

1156
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like my experience with Georgia. I didn't ask to

1157
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: be in that position. I didn't actually have to see

1158
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: my friend murder, you know what's for the world to see.

1159
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I did something that a

1160
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't have to gus to do. Now,

1161
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: when you have success at things like that, it's a

1162
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: lot of people and I'm gonna tell you why they're

1163
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: mad at you. One, it's some people hustle. They prey

1164
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: on stuff like that to go down and benefit all

1165
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: people pains. And we didn't do that. We did it

1166
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: because our hearts. We want to do what's right. That's

1167
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people hustle. So when you show up

1168
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: and get all attention and and and ain't no money involved,

1169
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: you're doing it out your heart. It's taken out of

1170
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: their pockets. So that some people hustle too. People only

1171
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: hate what they can't be and what they can't do.

1172
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: So if you're able to go to a march and

1173
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: leave people have people follow you for the right cause

1174
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: people envy that because ain't nobody following them, you know

1175
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's the two things I've said.

1176
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: They envy what they can't be. Bro Well, I mean,

1177
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: I've learned that the for the most part, where people

1178
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: feel about me is usually a reflection to them is

1179
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: very little, has very little to Actually, it's about where

1180
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: they've been exposed to, UM, what they expect of themselves,

1181
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: their fears, their failures, their insecurities, UM, and that just

1182
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: gets projected onto me, you know by way of conversation.

1183
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, just just just hate. Yeah, I mean uh.

1184
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: And and my understanding of that, my understanding of the

1185
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: that allows me to count on just see it and

1186
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: don't see it, bro, Yeah, I mean cool. I went

1187
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: from a time where I wouldn't let nationalize and when

1188
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: none getting back, I ain't. I'm at it everything it

1189
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: is to be at I'm at and I learned that

1190
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: no matter how many victories or how many successful battles

1191
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: you endure and overcome, it's gonna they're just gonna keep coming,

1192
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep coming, and they're gonna keep coming.

1193
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, man, for real,

1194
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: you have to protect your peace at a certain point

1195
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: time you feel me, So I just man, I man,

1196
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: fuck them. I want to I want to command you, bro,

1197
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: because like I said, I know, I know it ain't easy,

1198
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: but I commit you for taking a standing and being

1199
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: selfless in situations like that. UM. Reflecting your career and

1200
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: the advice you would give somebody because you've been able

1201
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: to have longevity. A lot of people die and and

1202
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: and and would give anything to go back to be

1203
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: able to say they had longevity than anything. You've been

1204
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: successful in multiple things and still going. Um, what advice

1205
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 1: would you give somebody? Um? First of all, don't do

1206
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: it like I did it, because that ship might not

1207
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: work for you. You know what I'm saying. You gotta

1208
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: you gotta, You got your own journey that you gotta.

1209
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: You gotta walk your own walk. You know what I mean.

1210
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: There is no monolithic path to success. Um, learn listen,

1211
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Accept the opportunity to grow

1212
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: and evolve. Don't don't don't pigeonhole yourself to to heaven

1213
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: to remain you know, any particular way for any particular

1214
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: group of people. Man, just learn, grow evolved. And you

1215
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: got one or two options. You can either pull them up,

1216
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: let them pull you down. Ain't no one between you,

1217
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: feel me. Surround yourself with people. That's just as it's

1218
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: just as hungry and eager to learn, eager to succeed

1219
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: as you are, and don't let nobody talk to you

1220
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: out of your vision because they can't see it. I

1221
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: think that's that's a bigger mistake I ever made in

1222
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: this ship, you know what I mean? Because you know

1223
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: we all have visions. You should never lead one of us.

1224
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: Every human being on earth has a purpose and and

1225
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: and and has a vision or something that they can contribute.

1226
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: It comes to us first by way of a vision,

1227
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: something that you see in your mind, an idea that

1228
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: you have, nobody else had it is yours. And the

1229
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: first thing we usually do it go to our peers

1230
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: and go to the people around us and tell them

1231
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: of our vision. And because they don't have the same

1232
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:05,879
Speaker 1: vision or they don't believe that they could achieve properly

1233
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: execute this vision. First thing, now, man can't do that?

1234
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: What you wanta do that? For? Man? Ain't nobody did?

1235
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: And the first thing we do, like Dan, it might

1236
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: be a dumbass idea. Let me just and then a

1237
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: year later you'll see another motherfucker that just ben't gotten

1238
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: shot through the roof doing this is that same thing

1239
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 1: that you just said, you know what I mean? Uh?

1240
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: And and that's the thing that I regret the most

1241
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: about my career just just being so, I guess so

1242
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: m hmm, sharing my vision with other people who projected

1243
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: their fears and failures on me and allowed myself to

1244
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: not do with the universe show me how wippold to

1245
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: be doing? I mean, but that lesson I've carried into

1246
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've been able to do it right

1247
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: mm hmm. This next phase or and passion of yours comedy.

1248
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: Speak to us about the ups and downs, what you've learned,

1249
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: what you love, your drive for it? Man? Okay, so

1250
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: what I've learned? Dear people like take me very literal

1251
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: and like you know, everything I say, mother can take

1252
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: it very serious, you know when I'm really I guess

1253
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: the motherfucker have to really spend some time around me

1254
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: to see. You know, I'm pretty cavil, like I I

1255
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: joke in Trip. That's kind of how we get through

1256
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship that have a very dog

1257
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: since a humor sometimes. Uh. I think my first stand

1258
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: up sick unofficially was at my sister precious funeral, you know,

1259
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: and everybody would hurt, everybody was in pain, everybody was

1260
01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, going through it, and I was something speak,

1261
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: and so the first thing I said, what we ain't

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: gonna do is being here sad and miserable, and because

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: that ain't what she represented. And secondly, Pressure, we got

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: all of popsis mistresses and women and everybody in here,

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: so we already having together. You know what I'm saying.

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: Everybody just died laught because they're probably the only time

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01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: because you know, my pops ain't never been married. You

1268
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got six sisters, one little brother,

1269
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: and all of his children's mamas was there and they

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01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: had never been nowhere in the same building. At the

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: same time, I said, Pressure, you did it. You did

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01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: the impossible. Uh So I I you know what I'm saying.

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a pretty healthy sense of human

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01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: But people, you know what I'm saying, take care of things.

1275
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: I say, to be literal, everybody can't take you. Yeah,

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01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: I learned that. Uh. But it didn't do nothing. But

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: just you know what I'm saying, pushed me to go

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: to go harder bout it. Uh. And I also learned that,

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01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, comedy is it's very sacred. It's a lot

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: of people who suffer and don't never get they just

1281
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: do it's a lot of accolades that people don't receive,

1282
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: and you can do it for a lifetime. Your motherfuckers

1283
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: were masters at the craft. Who deserves every every chance

1284
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: to be in every spotlight that that exists for this

1285
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: for this area entertainment, and people really take it personally

1286
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: when motherfucker's just getting up there like yeah, yeah, I

1287
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: could do this, Yeah yeah, you know what I mean.

1288
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: Uh So I learned to respect it a whole lot.

1289
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: I always had a respect for the people who did it,

1290
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: but I learned that there must be an equal amount

1291
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: of respect as I do it, you know. Um. And

1292
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: it's it's therapeutic. It's therapeutic. There's a freedom that I

1293
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: get up here and you know, talk about whatever I'm

1294
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: going through in my day. If I do a song,

1295
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if something happened to me today,

1296
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: I record a song and go to the studio. I

1297
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: gotta mix it master to shoot the video to be

1298
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: fastest weeks for you actually hear what I got on

1299
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: my mind, You feel me. Whereas if something happened to

1300
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: me today, I can hit a comedy club and I

1301
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: can you know, I can got them get it off

1302
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: my chest, right now you know what I mean? Um,

1303
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: and I think initially, you know, there's a lot of

1304
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: criticism and speculation. He ain't need funny. I don't see

1305
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: him like that. What are you doing up there? Well?

1306
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: The thing is the crowd is gonna tell you immediately

1307
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: whether you're supposed to be up there, you know. So

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01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: I just man, do the best I can to speak

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01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: from my heart and talk about ship that everybody can

1310
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: relate to and find humor in that. I went to

1311
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: one of your first shows, man, wife, your first shows

1312
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: with Hi Mafia. Okay, and what city? It was heading

1313
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: out Nomber, I saw you'all side. I was walking in

1314
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: what venue? Remember the being your baby? It was a

1315
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: hole in the wall. It was a hole in the

1316
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: wall and it was the first one d C did itself.

1317
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: Remember that? Yeah, I saw you outside, I was walking down.

1318
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: You did a great job to say that was one

1319
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: of your first times, bro. So I take my hat

1320
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: off to you, man, Thank you. I appreciate it. Man,

1321
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: It's just getting better and better. You know what I'm saying. Uh,

1322
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: my favorite show thus far though, it's Brooklyn ba Clag's.

1323
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody told him we're gonna

1324
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: get booed eventually, Like everybody like, Yo, it's gonna happen.

1325
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Boot's gonna happen. Just be ready. And

1326
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, everybody from the booming out of here.

1327
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: And it happened. You know what I'm saying. You know,

1328
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: the mothercker were waiting to get me somewhere to boot

1329
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: me for a long time, you know what I'm saying.

1330
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: But we shared a moment, you know myself in New York,

1331
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 1: all five brows came together and could agree and that

1332
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: moment at that time, Man, boot this nigga, you know. Uh.

1333
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed it so much. I enjoyed it so much. Uh.

1334
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 1: And then the very next so after I got off stage,

1335
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I got a lot of calls from me everybody. You

1336
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, everybody Downiel Rollings, k Dub to

1337
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, Don Roy to to uh, Marlon Wayne's. You

1338
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, you are right, Yeah,

1339
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm straight. What's up? Man, I'm just saying the first

1340
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: thing more to say, Man, leave the arenas alone. Man

1341
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: to the small rooms. Man, I said, Man, they gave

1342
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: me third It don't now to do with my first

1343
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: paid gig as a campy say they set you up, nigga,

1344
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: can't you see it? And so you know, Maha, I

1345
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: hear it as I went right back to an arena,

1346
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: came right to it Atlanta the next day, you know,

1347
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: on the No Cap tour with d c And and

1348
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: Duval and d ray and talked to back getting boot

1349
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: the day before and gotta standing ovation and that when

1350
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: motherfucker was like, yo, you're a real comedian now you

1351
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you didn't took the lumps

1352
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: and bumps, you know, but that was my favorite show

1353
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: and Jordan's so thank you, Brooklyn. You learn from it.

1354
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Quick hitters almost finish. The first thing to come to mind.

1355
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Let us know a show, a movie you can watch

1356
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: on repeat. Mm hmm, Present Day of Pass, whatever you want,

1357
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: whatever show, a movie I could watch your retreat life

1358
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: m M. If you can remember one lyrical bar, what

1359
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: would it be your favorite lyrical bar? My favorite lyric

1360
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: or bar. We'll just give me this, I'm gonna say,

1361
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: m change the question. Okay, you can put one of

1362
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: your favorite bars on the billboard. What would it be

1363
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: my favorite? Coming from your Yeah, if you can pick

1364
01:25:50,680 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: a bar. Um m hmm, it'll probably be to lay

1365
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: me baby. Hey, he gonna need a trap from God

1366
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: featuring Jesus and jay Z. It'll probably be that one.

1367
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 1: If you needed more all ready to do. It was

1368
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: called Monte Ellis. It's just anything by him. Yah, man,

1369
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: my te you go crazy. Man, appreciate I'm ending this ship.

1370
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate. We had Mike on the

1371
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: show and he told us about one of his favorite

1372
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: stories one time about you and him in the in

1373
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: the in the studio with Kobe. Yeah, yes, any Kobe

1374
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: stories man, that one. So you know Kobe was here

1375
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: playing the hops, you know, uh and and Kobe and

1376
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: my my manager at the time, g Roberson, real real tight.

1377
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: So while he was in the city, um G brought

1378
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: him over to the studio and that just happened to

1379
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: be in there with Mike at the time and m me,

1380
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, just again fucking with Kobe, you know, Jack,

1381
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: because I said, they don't take this ad with a

1382
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: personal now, I don't want to phone out with you.

1383
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Back to Zad Whipple, we feel to put on you.

1384
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: And you know, because he came back in Grand Cod

1385
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, you believe it. You look so

1386
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: much smarter than that, you know. And we just enjoyed

1387
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the moment, and he listened. I think I played, um

1388
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: was it trouble Man. I think I played the trouble

1389
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Man album for him, you know, the songs before you

1390
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: know they were released. We vibe that me and Mike

1391
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: were smoking big cod just in their motherfucker trying not

1392
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: to get a content I mean. Uh. And and when

1393
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: he left there, I w was like, what you're gonna do?

1394
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Said she gonna go to the gym? What it were

1395
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: two in the morning. I say, what, we went to

1396
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: Mades City. Didn't he say he's going to the gym?

1397
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I say, God, damn, this motherfucker serious, you know. And

1398
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: I just developed the whole, a whole another level of

1399
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: a spare for him. Um. Of course you can't take

1400
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: anything away from his from his accolades and the things

1401
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: he's achieved. Uh, but just for me to see first

1402
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: hand the commitment and sacrifice that we're into those things

1403
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: becoming possible, it um, it was. It was a joy

1404
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: to behold. It's beautiful. Uh. Five dinner guests that are alive,

1405
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: come on, man, yeah, against dead alive Mohammad Ali, Tupap,

1406
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglas, real thought going behind it? So

1407
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I like it? How many of that before? That's for

1408
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: one more? They got to go, Mike Tyson Man, Mike,

1409
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, Michael, make sure that's a hell of a

1410
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a goddamn dinner table. Man. See

1411
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: a lot of mushroom. And we there with Marley Damn.

1412
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: You can come to Malcolm Ship's at now you're making

1413
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: a big table. If you can have one guest on

1414
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the show, and you can see one guest on our show,

1415
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 1: who would it be? But before you answer that question,

1416
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: you have to help us get your answer on our show.

1417
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: The catch, that's the catch. So I gotta think about

1418
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: somebody who I can actually have indeed, boost oh we're

1419
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 1: supposed to have. I just talked to him a the

1420
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: other day. I just talked to himself. You gotta have

1421
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: and he got and he just dropped the movie. Yeah

1422
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 1: you and he's been he'd been in his bag independent

1423
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: film production bag. Yeah man getting it at the mud too,

1424
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: you feel and I just I'm just buried my brother

1425
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: in that rocket man. Help you know it's been Let

1426
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 1: me get through some times some tough nights, so he

1427
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: dropped that right on time. Well, tip man, we appreciate

1428
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: your time. You know you're busy. Best of luck in

1429
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: all aspects of life. You continue to excel in man,

1430
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: and we really appreciate you. We are a fan of

1431
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: you know what you stand on, what you're stand for.

1432
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: So thank you for your time today. Man, both of

1433
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: you brothers. I appreciate the opportunity. It's on the city

1434
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: and just ex change dialogue with y'all, both of y'all.

1435
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: I've seen both of y'all go through some ship. I

1436
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: was like, who, I don't know, hey ship, Hey man,

1437
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: the goddamn palates bro Like God, damn nigger got busy.

1438
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Man, you had to

1439
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: exercise so much for strength, you know. But but but

1440
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: but but but I had to make exceptions for the

1441
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: acceptional circumstances, you know, you when when we ain't gonna

1442
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 1: profit this line not the gun line, you know. So

1443
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: I respect. I've seen y'all, you know, uh be tested,

1444
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Not necessarily by the world

1445
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: as much as tested by yourselves. You had to overcome yourself.

1446
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: You had to you know, you had to really be

1447
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: who you presented yourself to be. And you you know

1448
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And y'all and you pat it. That's

1449
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,839
Speaker 1: what real motherucker's are gonna respit. Anybody who do everything perfect,

1450
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: do everything perfect, and their life is going perfect. You

1451
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: could do that. I mean, can you lose it, get

1452
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 1: it back, make a mistake, learn from it, be built,

1453
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: and and move forward with the understanding and the knowledge

1454
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 1: and the wisdom that comes from that. That's what I respect.

1455
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: So thank you. I appreciate that. We got some we

1456
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: got some merch for you. Okay, appreciate man, appreciate it.

1457
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: That's a wrap. Yeah, you did all the smoke. You

1458
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: cast us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the I Heart Platform,

1459
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: Black Effects, the King Pop. Yeah.