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Speaker 1: have been doing the Doomsday podcast forever. So third week

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Speaker 1: From the outside, I man, I look at this and

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Speaker 3: No, I don't see how you could watch what's happened

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Speaker 1: No, that's not who he is. He he you know,

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Speaker 1: Bucky brookshust To always say this, there's tractors and trailers,

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Speaker 1: Dak is good when he has protection in a run game.

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Speaker 3: I mean c J.

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Speaker 3: That's what it looks like. And he has his moments.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you talked about it, the Derrick Henry thing.

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Speaker 3: He was out there. He made it known the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: I think when you're watching how he's playing, you could

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Speaker 1: Who would you know, Mike Rabel's out there living in

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Speaker 1: My take is Dallas has become a bit of a circus.

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Speaker 3: with like big time, huge people, and he loves the

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Speaker 3: fact that Belichick goes around saying, I respect Jerry Jones

428
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Speaker 3: like I could work for Jerry Jones. So I think

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Speaker 3: Bill's saying that to people right now. I think he's

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Speaker 3: he wants back in the game enough that he would

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Speaker 3: put up all the stuff with Jerry. But you see,

432
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Speaker 3: he would handle himself just like Bill did, and Jerry,

433
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Speaker 3: to a certain extent, would be miserable in that kind

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Speaker 3: of setting. But I think it's getting to the point

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Speaker 3: where he would he would seriously think about and that's

436
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Speaker 3: where it becomes somewhat of attractive job because he would

437
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Speaker 3: like Michah Parsons being here, and he would like a

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Speaker 3: quarterback being here. And I would say, there are people

439
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Speaker 3: out there that value Dak more than you do, and

440
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Speaker 3: I think Belichick might be one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I've always considered Dak like the

442
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Speaker 1: best of the B plus guys. He and Kirk cousins.

443
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Speaker 1: Kirk throws a better ball, Dak moves better. But they're

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Speaker 1: the best of the anus B plus guys, and I

445
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Speaker 1: think both need help. Kirk and his career has had

446
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Speaker 1: a better stable of receivers a lot of his career.

447
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Speaker 1: Dak's had maybe better running backs. But right now Kirk

448
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Speaker 1: is flourishing with Atlanta. You know, Jerry and Steve and

449
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Speaker 1: largely run personnel along with the aforementioned guy what was

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Speaker 1: his name?

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Speaker 3: Will play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think Jerry would ever relinquish that to get

453
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Speaker 1: the right coach.

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Speaker 3: Not in a million years.

455
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Speaker 1: He just believed.

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Speaker 3: That's just what he believes. And there's no talking about

457
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Speaker 3: of it. And even when somebody asked him yesterday something

458
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Speaker 3: about are you going to take ownership over kind of

459
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Speaker 3: what's happening, he just stopped him and he said, I

460
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Speaker 3: am the owner now. He said, we're in the proverbial

461
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Speaker 3: esser yesterday, And so he's admitting. But Jerry, in his

462
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Speaker 3: mixed up way, thinks he's the only one that can

463
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Speaker 3: ever save anything, and so to change the way this

464
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Speaker 3: is handled now, Someday when Jerry is gone in like

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Speaker 3: twenty five years, when he Stephen is, Jerry would leave

466
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Speaker 3: word with Steven to never relinquish it. But Steven would

467
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Speaker 3: He would operate in a different way, in a much

468
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Speaker 3: different way than Jerry. But Jerry does lean on people,

469
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Speaker 3: and I don't. I think Belichick is so desperate to

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Speaker 3: get back in and go out in a different manner

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Speaker 3: that I think he would be willing to put up

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Speaker 3: with some of Jerry's stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill wanted to make six seven eight million bucks

474
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Speaker 1: this year just so he hadn't. You know, He's got

475
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, but Bill wanted to stay front

476
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Speaker 1: and center make some money. These coaches, I mean Nick

477
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Speaker 1: Saban a minute he could get on TV. Saban's great,

478
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Speaker 1: by the way, Belichick's fine when they get him in

479
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Speaker 1: certain roles. He's good, but he wants to coach. I

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Speaker 1: had Sean Payton at Fox for a year. Sean wanted

481
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Speaker 1: to coach Bill Parcell's a couple of times did TV

482
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Speaker 1: the minute coaching came back boom. It was in his blood.

483
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Speaker 1: Some of these guys, often the less successful coaches you

484
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Speaker 1: know who've been fired A couple of times. They you know,

485
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Speaker 1: they like TV. They see TV is a gateway to

486
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Speaker 1: endorsements and fun and more golf. At Belichick, you know,

487
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Speaker 1: he's got a boat. He's not sitting on a golf

488
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Speaker 1: course too much. He's too smart. Peyton's the same way.

489
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Speaker 1: They're too bright, they're too driven. Are there any empty

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Speaker 1: seats at Cowboy games? I mean, has the apathy spilled

491
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Speaker 1: over to merchandising or seats?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no? I mean and are there more visitors at

494
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Speaker 1: Jerry World? Are there more visiting fans?

495
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Speaker 3: Always though? I mean through good years and bad years.

496
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Speaker 3: It'll be embarrassing when the Texans come on this current trajectory.

497
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Speaker 3: The Texans will have plenty of fans. The Eagles will

498
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Speaker 3: have fans. The Lions were taking over that stadium yesterday.

499
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Speaker 3: Jerry doesn't really mind that. He hates it when I

500
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Speaker 3: bring it up, and I've done it in the past

501
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: and he gets mad like a Seattle game, you know,

502
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Speaker 3: but he the whole spectacle of it. He's kind of

503
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Speaker 3: okay with that. He knows he's going to fill the stadium.

504
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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that ever would would give

505
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Speaker 3: him pause is just like what happened a few years

506
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: ago when they flexed out of a Cowboys game. Somebody

507
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: did that. I think it was NBC, and that's shocking.

508
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, al Michaels used to joke that

509
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Speaker 3: they would take a Cowboys game every week. What's Fox

510
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: doing with Tom Brady? Like he's done like four Cowboys games, right,

511
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: They're just like, let's just make him the beat guy

512
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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Prime for details. I've said this before, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Dallas is America's team. I think the Niners are. If

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Speaker 1: you anywhere Denver West, the Niners fill the stadium and

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Speaker 1: they're also they've been so good for majority of the

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Speaker 1: last twelve years. Is I think there's such a star

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Speaker 1: studded team that I think if you ask Fox executives,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially Dallas getting ripped at home. Everybody still

528
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Speaker 1: gets Dallas. But I could see for the next three

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. Now, big market Chicago with

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, big market San Francisco, Green Bay's a big

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Speaker 1: brand if Dallas is an eight to nine team. Remember

532
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Speaker 1: the Steelers used to be on TV a lot, and

533
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Speaker 1: they're probably the second biggest brand in the league. They

534
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Speaker 1: get flexed out. People don't want the Steelers on television.

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Speaker 1: They're boring. They want the Ravens on TV. And I

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Speaker 1: do think there's something to be said. Is a not

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Speaker 1: he has an ascending paycheck, He's not an ascending player.

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Speaker 1: And I look at these big markets with I mean

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Speaker 1: Houston gets on TV more Caleb Williams. How about when

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Speaker 1: Washington matt is now good. That's like the seventh biggest

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Speaker 1: city in the country. I think there's some big national

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Speaker 1: markets with ascending, star, exciting quarterbacks. I can see Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I can see people at Fox just saying they're just

544
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Speaker 1: not that interesting. I mean, I found myself yesterday bailing

545
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Speaker 1: on that Cowboy game. The second time this year. I'm like,

546
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Speaker 1: they're just not that much fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had that opportunity yesterday just to

548
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: kind of walk out of there. But I still think

549
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: were one flex out in the past fifteen years. And

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Speaker 3: my sense is that even when they're five hundred people

551
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Speaker 3: are still fighting. They have them on. You make an

552
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Speaker 3: interesting point. I still think when they go places, it's

553
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Speaker 3: kind of crazy the amount of Cowboys fans that show up.

554
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Speaker 3: And I'm just seen it over and over and over.

555
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Speaker 3: So I could. I mean, I would not. I still

556
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Speaker 3: would not make an America's team. I think the Patriots

557
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: became America's most hated team. I think they you know

558
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Speaker 3: you that used to be the Cowboys for years, and

559
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: it was like Brady and the Patriots surpassed them in

560
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: the villains. But yeah, I would be hard pressed to

561
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Speaker 3: say that's happening. But I would say this to your point,

562
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Speaker 3: if Jerry feels that happening, it'll just make him more

563
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Speaker 3: dig in and have to bring in a coach like

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Speaker 3: that like Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's why Belichick makes sense. They don't with

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Speaker 1: Dack's contract, they don't have a lot of offensive firepower

567
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: and the truth is, their defensive pieces aren't terrible. I

568
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Speaker 1: mean they're not, They're they're just they're all banged up.

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Speaker 1: I think it's becoming such a quarterback league. I just

570
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Speaker 1: know personally. I like watching Kansas City won, Baltimore two,

571
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Speaker 1: San Francisco three, and I think I think Detroit and

572
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Speaker 1: Green Bay and Chicago now, good God. The NFC North.

573
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Speaker 1: The four leading teams in the NFL on point differential,

574
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Speaker 1: all four in the NFC North. That is like a

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Speaker 1: that's like a track teams in that diation. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: how good they are.

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Speaker 3: And think how how much Sean Peyton that Dan Campbell

578
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Speaker 3: has in him right now, because I mean the most

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Speaker 3: he was just a good old boy Hunter and Fisher

580
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Speaker 3: and just an awesome guy to talk to. And there

581
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Speaker 3: wasn't a petty bone in his body when I used

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Speaker 3: to visit with him all the time and cover him

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Speaker 3: as a player. Yeah, And he walked into that stadium

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Speaker 3: and his sole purpose after winning was to embarrass the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys in every possible way. That was the most Sean

586
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Speaker 3: Payton behavior I've ever seen. And from the from the

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Speaker 3: play one he put that he put the guy out

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Speaker 3: there as the tackle legs will play and then late

589
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Speaker 3: in the game he was doing hooking ladders with his

590
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: starting offensive tackle and he's spent. He spent the better

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Speaker 3: part of that game trying to rub it in Jerry's face.

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Speaker 3: And what's really weird and crazy about Jerry, there's a

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Speaker 3: twisted part of Jerry that kind of liked that. There's

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Speaker 3: a twisted part of Jerry that was just like man,

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Speaker 3: I so wish I had a coach that would do

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Speaker 3: that to other people, and he doesn't have that in McCarty. McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh guy, respect the game, never show anybody up. That's

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Speaker 3: not the way he's wired at all. So Jerry, now,

599
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Speaker 3: as much as he hates to do it, has to

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Speaker 3: run him out. And they're three and three. So he's

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Speaker 3: not going to do it like Wade Phillips. He's not

602
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Speaker 3: going to do it in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 3: But he's got to do a deal kind of like

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Speaker 3: he did with Bill Parcells. He's got to get the

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Speaker 3: thing done with Belichick, you know, like three weeks before

606
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Speaker 3: the season ends. He's got to get that hammered out.

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Speaker 3: He's got to do it privately, and they got to

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Speaker 3: get it in place.

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Speaker 1: Why was McCarthy two hours late to the press conference.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no good explanation. Seriously, just say and I

611
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Speaker 3: mean like it is odd because like why does the

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Speaker 3: PR group let everybody just sit in there forever they

613
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Speaker 3: thought it was going to happen. Mike just said that

614
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: the personnel some coaches meetings went long and then they

615
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: had to go into personnel meetings. But you know, given

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Speaker 3: what they everybody just witnessed. Of course, the media is like,

617
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Speaker 3: what in the world's going on? But they sent him

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Speaker 3: out and said there was nothing to see. And hey,

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Speaker 3: one thing McCarthy's done well is he has no there's

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Speaker 3: there's no interim coaches like on the staff. Okay, like

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Speaker 3: there's nobody. Zimmer's defense has been so awful even when DeMarcus,

622
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: Lawrence and Michael were out there. So you can't turn

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Speaker 3: it over to him. What are you gonna do? Give

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Speaker 3: it to Schottenheimer, you know, like he's not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: And so you have your Bones Fossil, you have John Fossil,

626
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: your special Teams coach. So there's nobody to step in.

627
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Speaker 3: Maybe Al Harris, there's nobody to do it, so he

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00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: has kind of McCarthy is protected in that way. But

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Speaker 3: this thing's headed toward this thing, you know, probably gonna

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Speaker 3: go off the rails. And the point is they used

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Speaker 3: to be able to beat all their NFC East opponents,

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Speaker 3: and so this was an inflated record.

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Speaker 1: The Commander twenty four and four against Washington and the Giants.

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Speaker 1: That's that's sixty percent of his wins.

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: Yes, and everybody wants to talk. But again, Jerry and

636
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: Stephen want credit for those twelve wins seasons. But you're right,

637
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 3: ton of it came in. Listen. A lot of good

638
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: coaches do that. They take they take advantage of a

639
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: bad division. But the Cowboys problem, of course, is they

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00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: can't take that next step. And what they did against

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Speaker 3: Green Bay I think that. I think the most shocking

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Speaker 3: part for Jerry, and the most sickening thing to fans

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Speaker 3: is that Jerry watched that Green Bay game and his

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Speaker 3: response was, let's run it back and let's not change

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Speaker 3: a thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what Jerry would like to say right now

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Speaker 3: is I told you he would like he's not going

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Speaker 3: to say it. He can't say it. I told you

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Speaker 3: why I was waiting on doing this contract. Why in

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Speaker 3: addition to McCarthy coaching into the last year. I kind

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Speaker 3: of was okay with Dak because right now, in secret

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Speaker 3: areas where I'm not andally nobody is, Jerry has to

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Speaker 3: be having those conversations. This is why I kept waiting,

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Speaker 3: and everybody's like, why didn't you get this done? If

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Speaker 3: you'd have gotten this done a while back, you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have had to pay him. Sixty million still would have

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Speaker 3: been an enormous amount, but it might not been sixty

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Speaker 3: and Jerry would deep down he wondered if he had

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Speaker 3: the right quarterback, but he had no recourse in the end,

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Speaker 3: right Trey Lance was you know, proved to be nothing,

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Speaker 3: and what are you going to do? Try to you know,

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Speaker 3: you can't blow it. You've got Dak as your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to lose twelve games. There was there was,

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Speaker 3: There was no He saw no way to find another solution.

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Speaker 3: So but that's Jerry, I mean, that's this. That's this

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Speaker 3: Cowboys team. Their solution always in the end is well,

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Speaker 3: we're just gonna have to pay top of the market money.

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Speaker 3: They say they don't want to, but they always end

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Speaker 3: up having to do it, and then they want to

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Speaker 3: claim we're the only team doing that. There are other

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Speaker 3: teams doing that, right, I mean, I mean there's the

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Speaker 3: teams that have star quarterbacks and star wide receivers. The

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are not the only team, but they want to

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Speaker 3: portray it. We're the only team in this situation that

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Speaker 3: we have to commit ninety five million a year to

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Speaker 3: two players.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they drafted Oklahoma left tackle. What's what's

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Speaker 1: the verdict on him?

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Speaker 3: Just kind of like average so far? Put him in

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Speaker 3: their left tackle because of that injury, Tyler Smith had

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Speaker 3: to kick out there, and I honestly think they kind

683
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Speaker 3: of like what they saw, so I think they think

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Speaker 3: they have a tremendous future with Tyler Smith. Way too

685
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Speaker 3: early on guyon to either stay he's great or say

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Speaker 3: he's horrible, Like I've seen guys who are horrible. He's

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Speaker 3: not that, Like he's going to be given chances. But

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Speaker 3: I think that the scariest thing for anybody associated with

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys is that on the past blocking grade. And

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Speaker 3: I know you love PFF and sometimes you question them

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Speaker 3: and you do the film work on your own. I

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Speaker 3: think Zach Martin got a zero point zero on his

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Speaker 3: pass blocking. His overall past blocking grade was like a

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. He got crushed. He got annihilated. And this

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Speaker 3: is a guy who's going to be perhaps in the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame someday. He's been one of the best

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Speaker 3: guards in the league for like close to a decade,

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Speaker 3: and it seems at least in that game, it seems

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Speaker 3: like it's falling apart. They're in a bat. To your

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Speaker 3: point earlier about Dak, I will say that's the biggest

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Speaker 3: distinction between he and Romo. Romo took players like Miles

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Speaker 3: Austin and larn Robinson and Gerard on the offensive line

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Speaker 3: and he elevated them. Say what you will about his playoffs,

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Speaker 3: and I get that it's a fair criticism, but he

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Speaker 3: was talented enough to lift kind of middling play and

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Speaker 3: lift the team. And boy, Dak's not doing it right now.

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Speaker 1: No, No, Tony Romo had bad offensive lines. They got

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Speaker 1: good the minute he retired. So Dak has had the

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Speaker 1: best running back in the league. DA's had the best

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Speaker 1: offensive line on average over the last eight years. And

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Speaker 1: as the offensive line is deteriorated and the running back

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Speaker 1: room is regressed, it's more Dak. I always said, Romo's

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Speaker 1: on a short list of the most underrated quarterbacks. In

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Speaker 1: my life, I always thought he was I thought on

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Speaker 1: his I thought he was great in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: I thought he threw a better ball than Dak. I

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Speaker 1: think they move about the same. I think they both

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Speaker 1: had leadership abilities. I think Dak's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of a ceo field than Tony. Romo's a little squorelyer

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Speaker 1: as a guy. But no, it's a Romo never got

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Speaker 1: the credit he deserves. Dak's gotten more credit than he deserves.

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Speaker 1: That's my take, And I'm fine with Dak. But I

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Speaker 1: said as Kirk Cousins is better than Dak. They've both

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Speaker 1: made a ton but it's a sit in the pocket

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Speaker 1: and throw. And kirk Cousins again is going to win

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Speaker 1: his division again this year. So you know, I think

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Speaker 1: if you're you can win in this league. If you're

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Speaker 1: paying a ton of money at quarterback for a star

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Speaker 1: Lamar Mahomes, or you can do it with a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback on a rookie deal and surround him with stars,

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Speaker 1: you cannot be a viable Super Bowl team if you're

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Speaker 1: paying a B quarterback to a B plus quarterback a

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Speaker 1: plus money. That's why kirk cousins deal with Atlanta. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty Shrewd. It's not a bad contract, it really isn't.

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Speaker 1: It's half of what the big money guys in the league,

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Speaker 1: and therefore they can keep all their Drake London's and

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Speaker 1: all their young receivers.

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Speaker 3: It's wild, though, to watch how great Jared Goff looks,

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Speaker 3: and you saw him up close and personal, and they

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Speaker 3: were so ready to move off him, so ready they

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Speaker 3: were like, give us like a thirty six year old

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Speaker 3: dude who's taken a million hits. We need this guy

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Speaker 3: out of here. And right now, I mean, like, is

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Speaker 3: there anybody playing? I mean you might think of one

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Speaker 3: or two guys in the in the league right now

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Speaker 3: playing or hotter than Jared Goff. So it is kind

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Speaker 3: of wild when you put people around them what they

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Speaker 3: can do. And he's you know, and and maybe this

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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell can coach a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think when you give Jared Goff a good old

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Speaker 1: line in a run game, Todd Gurley, Andrew Whitworth and

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Speaker 1: the Rams, he can get you to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I always thought he was Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: but better arm, better talent, but kind of Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan won an MVP and got to a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl as well. Matt Mosley does the Doom Day. Matt

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Speaker 1: Moseley does the Doomsday Podcast with a longtime ESPN reporter

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Speaker 1: ed Warder. So we did this before the Monday night

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Speaker 1: football game. So I'm gonna watch. I think I think

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to play well tonight. That's my guess.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it works out. But Buffalo's all up.

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Speaker 1: James Cooch is not going to play the running back.

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Speaker 1: That hurts a lot. They're still missing some people in

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Speaker 1: the uh in the receiving course. So I think I

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Speaker 1: think Aaron's gonna play well. I think Jets have a

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Speaker 1: chance to win.

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Speaker 3: I think Jerry was kind of jealous of of Woody

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Speaker 3: for making that move, like, hey, you can do that,

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Speaker 3: you can you can pull the you know you can

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Speaker 3: do that this or that early into season. That's interesting

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Speaker 3: that you think that. I I would think I would

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Speaker 3: think it would be more of the same. Uh. But

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Speaker 3: maybe they'll rally around this new coach and and they'll

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Speaker 3: get something. But it'll be uh, it'll it'll be fascinating

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Speaker 3: to watch either way.

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Speaker 1: Matt Great senior, Zoa's buddy.

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Speaker 3: Well, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: The volume. Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

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