1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and welcome to Stephan Never Told 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: You A production of iHeartRadio. And yes, I am still 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: by myself while Samantha recovers from being sick and gets 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: ready for going on vacation. And you know, she's probably 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be happy that I re rm this one 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: without her. She has a lot of thoughts about it. 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: We're bringing back the Mummy for this one because we 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: did miss feminist movie Friday this month. There was also 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: some scheduling confusion, which was largely my fault, but it 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: was comical because no one seems to know what month 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: it is right now. But we're doing a bunch of 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: disaster movies and movies that really shaped me in one 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: way or another, good or bad when I was younger 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: in the nineties, and I just couldn't in good conscience 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: not bring back the Mummy if we're talking about that, 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: because I watched I watched that movie so much as 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: we talk about in this episode, and EV's an amazing 18 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: heroin I will stand by that, so please enjoy this 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: classic episode. Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome 20 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to steph moa Never Told You protection of iHeartRadio. It 21 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: is time for another feminist movie Friday, the first of 22 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. 23 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 24 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and we're starting it with one of my absolute 25 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: favorite movies of all time, the nineteen ninety nine classic 26 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: The Mummy Mummy, And by Samantha's insistence, the Mummy too. 27 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: I feel it has to be there. 28 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: According to you, you're very, very passionate about it. Yes, 29 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: and the Mummy was a listener suggestion, So thank you, Kayla. 30 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: I always love when listeners suggests something that I love anyway, 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: So it's like I get to just rewatch something that 32 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: I already really enjoy. And she sent us a link 33 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: to a blog post by Lena in a Red Dress 34 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: that was really helpful. In all of this made a 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: lot of great points about the kind of feminist take 36 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: on this movie. We'll be getting into that later. Also, 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: I recently ish watched this with coworker and friend Lauren Vogelbaum, 38 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: and we kept saying how much Rachel Advice's character still 39 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: holds up. 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: We kept being like, wa, like that, Yeah, I feel 41 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: like unlike a lot of the movies or TV that 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: we watched from twenty years ago, twenty years ago, I 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: know it doesn't hold up. And you kind of squirm 44 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: and have to accept, yeah, that it was made back 45 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: when even though it shouldn't have been made back when. 46 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: And this one doesn't do that as much. So you 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 4: were like okayor cool, wor cool, although the second one 48 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: a little less, a little less, we'll say that. 49 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 50 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: Well, I absolutely adore The Mummy. It's one of six 51 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: movies that I can quote the whole way through the 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: Egyptian and all, which I have no idea if that's 53 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: actually Egyptian, but I can say it similarly. 54 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: To how they say it to the movie. 55 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: And I remember I had to campaign really hard to 56 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: see this movie in theaters as my dad because he's like. 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: I think it might scare you, and I don't know. 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't I was at the age where it still 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: my parents would go with me to PG thirteen movies, 60 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: and I just I worked so hard convince him, and 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: then I was trying really really hard to hide how 62 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: scared I was, because he was right. The Beatles, the 63 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: scare of Beatles really scared me. And I think I 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: had a crush on pretty much half the people in 65 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: this movie at one point in time. And I love 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: the ride at Universal. It is so fun. That is 67 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: a good ride. I hope they don't take it down 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: because it's funny. It's like about the making of the movie. Right, 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure how much like the younger generation 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: gets it, but right, fun right. 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: And it's definitely old Brendan Fraser too. It's definitely way 72 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 4: back when Brendan Fraser, right, because when you see him 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: today it looks a little different. Has gone through a 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: lot of stuff, unfortunately, or dude, and it's trying to 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: come out of it on the other side. But it's 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: definitely taking him a minute. I don't know how else 77 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: to do this. So it was prime Brendan Fraser. I 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: will say that, although I will say he was one 79 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: of my first questions, not because of this movie, but 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: because of movies like Incino Man and School Ties. Those 81 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: two movies are the one things that made him for me. 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: That's so great. 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've never seen any of those, but I 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: know the image like on the cover. 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: So oh yeah. In Sino Man, my friend and I 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: in high school, we memorize that movie. We know all 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: of everything to do with that movie. We even got 88 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: the soundtrack to that movie. Yeah, we were really into it. 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh yes, wow, I know I've spoken before 90 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: about my New Year's tradition on this show, where I 91 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: very specifically choose the last movie I want to end 92 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: a year on in the first movie I want to 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: start the New Year on. And a couple of years ago, 94 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: I was in South Africa for work over New Years 95 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: and the last movie I saw was The New Mummy 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: with Tom Cruise on the plane. Oh no, it was 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: not good. It was bad, bad, bad, bad movie to 98 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: go out on. So when I got home, the first 99 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: movie I watched the New Year was the nineteen ninety 100 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: nine versions for it. 101 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: Never had a desire to see the Tom Cruise version 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: because I was like, what is this. I trying to 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 4: make something that was like, yes, action filled, but also 104 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: fun to just action watch Tom Cruise get hurt and 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: hurt things. 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah yeah, And I mean the ending was pretty 107 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: weird too, because they were trying to set up that 108 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: whole like the new Universal Monster series. 109 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: So it's like, clearly meant to. 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Be a series, but you just knew it probably wasn't 111 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: gonna happen, so what fu Yeah yeah, And also when 112 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: The Mummy too, the Mummy returns, I keep saying Mummy returns. 113 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: Let me get it correct. But when that came out 114 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: that there was this website for the movie, which I 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: actually after we watched You've Got Mail, I got really 116 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: into that for a minute, remembering those like old Remember 117 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: when movies would come out, they would have these like 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: websites and you can play games on them and stuff. Well, 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: The Mummy Returns had one where you could see what 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: you were. You would take this test and it would 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: tell you what you were in a past life. And 122 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: I got dumb beetle, and I've never forgotten it. I 123 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: have never forgotten it. 124 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: I see. I mean, you've come out on top. That's 125 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: the good news, I guess. So you're not a dune beetle. Congratulations, 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: proud of you, Thank you, thank you. So yeah, I 127 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: am not a dug beetle. You're not a dung beetle. 128 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: Proud of you. 129 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: Thanks for being here. But yes, let's talk about the 130 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: Mummy and all the dung beetles. So The Mummy is 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: a nineteen ninety nine, twenty two years Old We Are Old, 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine American adventure movie and remake of the 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty two film, and it stars yes, Brendan Fraser 134 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: and Rachel Weiss and has written and directed by Steven Summers. 135 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: Apparently there were all kinds of issues while they filmed 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: it in Morocco, like snakes and sandstorms and yeah no 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: thank you, but I think that's also how they play 138 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: into the ride. But when the movie came out, it 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: was a financial success, which is why we have three 140 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: of them. The critics were so so on it, but 141 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: the audience obviously, like us, really love it. 142 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: You know, there's like a cartoon series too, Oh is there. 143 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of stud I think it is 144 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: something in twenty seventeen some series came out, so yeah, people. 145 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: Really really dug it. 146 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: It's funny because a lot of reviews I was reading 147 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: of it, like recent review said, you. 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Know, the CGI isn't great, but it holds up. I 149 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: think it holds up pretty there's clearly oh. 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: This is obviously for the first one, the Scorpion King. 151 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: Is like notoriously one of the worst CGI things ever. 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: But in this one. 153 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the plot. I could again, I could just 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: quote the whole movie. I could do the sound effects. 155 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: I could do it all, but I know that you 156 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: don't want it, so I won't. It opens an ancient Egypt, 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: and we learn that a ox in the Moon, the 158 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: pharaoh's mistress, is having an affair with its high priest Emotep, 159 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: whose spoiler alert is the Mummy. On one of their 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 3: forbidden pays, the pharaoh catches them making out and they 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: both kill him. The guards are hammering down the door 162 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: to get in, so a ox in the Moon convinces 163 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: Emotep to leave, telling him to use his abilities to 164 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: resurrect her. So he does, and before the guards can 165 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: arrest her, in oxy in the Moon kills herself. Emotep 166 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: and his priest steal her body and take it to 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: the lost city of the Dead Hominoptra. Amotep begins the 168 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: ritual to bring her back, but is interrupted by the Meggi, 169 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: who are the pharaoh's bodyguards, before he can complete the ritual. 170 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: So as punishment for this, Emotef is sentenced to the Hondai, 171 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: which is a punishment so horrific that it's never been 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: used before. Basically, he's mumma fied alive, his tongue is 173 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: cut out, He's wrapped tightly in bandages, put in a sarcophagus, 174 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: and buried alive with those flesh eating beetles. 175 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: A curse is. 176 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Placed on him too, for good measure that if he's 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: ever brought back, he would unleash the seven plagues of 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: Egypt and you know, like destroy everything. So to top 179 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: it off, the Meggi are sworn to guard him to 180 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: make sure no one brings him back. 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 4: So cut to the early nineteen hundreds, American Ric O'Connell 182 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: played by Brendan Fraser leading some soldiers in the midst 183 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: of the battle at the sights of the ruins of Hawenoptra. 184 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: He also meets his Weasley acquaintance Benny. We all know, Benny, 185 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 4: you're gonna get yours. And as the battle goes on, 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: Rick realizes there's something supernatural going on him away, and 187 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: he makes off into the desert under observation of the magi. 188 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: Then we jump to nineteen twenty six and we meet 189 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: Eve played by Rachel VIIs, who is the daughter of 190 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: famous egyptologist. She's a librarian, but she wants to follow 191 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: in her parents' footsteps. However, as movie opens, she has 192 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: once again been rejected by the prestigious Bimbridge scholars and 193 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: she has one of the best worst intros ever in 194 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: my opinion. While she's precariously balanced on a ladder trying 195 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: to replace a book on the top shelf. The latter 196 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: falls into the shelves and it's a domino effect, knocking 197 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: over all these huge shelves. The books go skew, the 198 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: papers everywhere. Oh so good. Then we meet her screwup brother, Jonathan, 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: who shows her an ancient key he quote found aka stole. 200 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: Jonathan takes ev to a jail to meet the person 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: who stole it from, because she recognizes immediately like this 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: might be something special. And of course he stole it 203 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: from none other than Rick O'Connell, who is scheduled to 204 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: be hanged. O'Connell promises to take them to Homonoptra if 205 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: they can secure his release, and this is after he 206 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: grabs Evie's face and kisses her. Of course, she's able 207 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: to cut a deal with the warden and O'Connell is 208 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: freed in the nick of time, So off they go 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: to Hamanatra. 210 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: You know, so they introduce Alex in the second one, Yeah, 211 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: the kid by having the Domino efface with the pillars, 212 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: so you know, they leak it a little bit, so 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: our intrepid crewe us off for Hemonopdra, and Evie is taken, 214 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: of course with O'Connell's new, cleaned up look, as would 215 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: I be. On their way, they encounter a group of 216 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: cocky Americans, those those nasty Americans also making their way 217 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: to Homonoptra with a cut with the help of O'Connell's 218 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: old frenemy Biddy. As EV's ruminating about the kiss between 219 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: her and O'Connell, the boat they're on actually gets attacked 220 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: by members of the Magi, which they don't want. They're 221 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: not aware of who they are, and they make a 222 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: narrow escape, switching over to Camel's and it's the O'Connell's 223 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: turn to be impressed with Evie's new clothes and looks right. 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: So as the sun rises, I'm notachro is revealed like 225 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 3: no longer these ruins, but fully restored. And these groups 226 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: race to the Americans, and our heroes race to ho'm 227 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,479 Speaker 3: Natra to see who can get their first. 228 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: And Evie wins. Cut up. Yeah. After a few run. 229 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: Ins with the Americans, you know, like O'Connell stole some tools, 230 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: they get to ev They fought over dig site. Evie 231 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: realizes that they can go underneath the Americans and dig 232 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: up through there to beat them to this book that 233 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: they both want this bury there are this treasure that 234 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: they both want this buried there, So while doing so, 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: they find a sarcophagus of a still quote juicy mummy. 236 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: The Americans, on the other hand, find the Book of 237 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: the Dead after setting off a booby trap protecting it, 238 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: and they also find some ancient jars holding organs, which 239 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: they divide amongst themselves. 240 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: Big mistake. 241 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: And this is where one of my most quoted lines 242 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 3: of all time. Check over a movie, chrish wantz ask me, like, 243 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: what's a movie thing? You say a lot that you 244 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: think no one gets? It's this beware of like us 245 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: be aware. 246 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 4: And every time she says that, she says in that 247 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: manner exactly too. Yeah, and that exactly and you can't 248 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: see her, but she's definitely doing the fist of the air. Yes, 249 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 4: say she does that every time as well. Just go 250 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: ahead and that so yeah. The Magi attacked their camp 251 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: their back to warn them away, giving them a day 252 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: to leave. The warden dies by the way by a 253 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: scara beetle because it goes inside of his skin, drives 254 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: him mad and he runs into a wall with his 255 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 4: head first. So you know, Evie gets really drunk and 256 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 4: flirts with Rick while who of course flirts back. And 257 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: also a great line quote, you're wondering, what is a 258 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: place like me doing a girl like this? Of course, 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: but then she passes out right as she's about to 260 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 4: kiss him, and he does the okay, And the following night, 261 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: Evie steals the book because she can't help it, which 262 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: is the Book of the Dead from the Americans. And 263 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 4: he's a professor, right, He's not an American though, who is? 264 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: He's English. 265 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 3: He's an Egyptologist. He's English, so there's like one non 266 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: American in the Yeah. 267 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: He knows what he's going for, and it's for the 268 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: same like intellectual properties as where they're all looking for treasure. 269 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: And she has the key and uses it to open it, 270 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: and she dumbly reads it out loud, accidentally bringing back 271 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: em tip yes, good job. Chaos ensues, Locus descends on them, 272 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: scare beetles, swarm people and strip them of their flesh. 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: Eve falls down a trick passage where she sees the 274 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: shambling mummy who calls her a nuts on the moon, 275 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: and Rick finds her shoes in the face but as 276 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: they flee, they don't see him rise back up. And then, 277 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: by the way, right before the mummy takes the eyes 278 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,479 Speaker 4: of one of the Americans for hisself. 279 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just note in case you haven't seen this, 280 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: at this point, he's like a mummy, Like there's skin 281 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: hanging off with him. You know, he's like a corpse 282 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: walking around. And yeah, this part with the America care 283 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: where he takes the eyes. Friends of mine that have 284 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: glasses or have trouble seeing, they always tell me the 285 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: scene is terrifying because he breaks his glasses down in 286 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: the dark tombs and he can't see, and he's like, 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: sees this shape and thinks that somebody's gonna help him, 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: and then it's some mean it takes his eyes. Right. 289 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that, except last night I watched 290 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: it again and I was like, but wait, his glasses 291 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: are way too thin, especially way back when, because I 292 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: have horrible eyesight, and y'all when I say I have 293 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: to get those special duty glasses where it thins them out, 294 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: it's literally hundreds of dollars to make it thinner, because 295 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: if not, I would have the bottled capped glasses. Yeah, 296 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: there's no way his hotsite. 297 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: Was that bad judgment? 298 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, When they turned to is a point of view, 299 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: I was like, there's no way it was that bad. 300 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: Like he may have had trouble seeing for sure, but 301 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: it would have been that bad. Those glasses were way 302 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: too thin. 303 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: Maybe his night vision so bad there. 304 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: Was nothing about night vision on those glasses. Then he 305 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: couldn't have seen in the first place. 306 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: That's true, That's what I saw. 307 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: I was like, wait, because I'm so aware, like I 308 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: just recently bought some wor glasses and I had to 309 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: pay an extra fee to make it not you know, 310 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: bottom of like it's really sad y'all anyway, But yeah, 311 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: so I just I think he's his eyesight was not 312 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: as bad. 313 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: As I love this. 314 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: I love when you see a movie with anybody with 315 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: a certain profession and after they leave their like, actually, yeah, I'm. 316 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: Not gonna lie. It's definitely like anything I see with 317 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: the social work involved are in like school law and 318 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: when i'm you know, juvenile detention stuff. But that's not 319 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: how that goes, but you know whatever. By the way, 320 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: when this is all happening, he stumbles on Benny, who 321 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: can speak many languages, and starts praying to every god 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: there is. And when he says, oh, you're speaking the 323 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: language of my slaves, he assumes that he could, you know, 324 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: serve him, and so promises Benny a fortune if he 325 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: helps the Mummy regenerate, which of course involves killing all 326 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: the Americans and retrieving the jars. And because he is Benny, 327 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: he says, of course, yes, yes, please, let's do this. 328 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So now the Mummy and has got a 329 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: little psidekick, Benny Henchman. 330 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: Now that's better. So Evie refuses to leave like they 331 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: fled the scene and they're back in a city. They're 332 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: back in Cairo, I believe, but they're like. 333 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: Evie refuses to leave until she can put a stop 334 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: to the curse, despite Rick's attempts to convince her otherwise. 335 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: And more and more of the plagues are starting out. 336 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: The water turns into blood. They're slains in the sky, 337 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: darkness descends, even though it's. 338 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: The middle of the day. 339 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: The Mummy arrives, kills one of the Americans, kisses ev 340 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: while she is asleep, again, calling her a Oxona moon. 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: Rick arrives and scares him away with a cat. As 342 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: you know cats regardings of the underworld, in Egyptian mythology, 343 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: and the group meets up with a member of the Magi, 344 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: artist Bay and the Egyptologist at the library ev works at, 345 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: who also works with the Magi, and they realize that 346 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: the Mummy is planning on using Evie as a sacrifice 347 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: to bring back his beloved a Oxuona Moon. Evie is 348 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: able to correct a mistranslation to learn the location of 349 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: the Book of the Living, which should be enough to 350 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: destroy the Mummy, and it's a Bimbage scholar mistranslation, so 351 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: that's a powerful moment. But the Mummy corners them after 352 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: killing all the Americans and fully regenerating himself, so now 353 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: he looks human and Edy agrees to go with him 354 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: in order to save the rest of the group. 355 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: Right, So Rick and Jonathan and the Magi are at 356 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: Bay Sexy self make their way to Haminaptra, fight their 357 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: way through the mummy five priest a half resurrected a 358 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: knocks on the Moon and the Mummy himself, and succeed 359 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: in killing him thanks largely to Evie's wits, and escape 360 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: the collapsing city. Of course, then Rick and Evie kiss 361 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: after they're like, oh, you know, I didn't get anything 362 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 4: out of that that are any treasures, and Rick says, oh, 363 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: I don't know about that, and they read right off 364 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: happily ever after, of course, until the second one of comes. Right. 365 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always a funny thing when a movie, and 366 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: so happily after ever but then you know there's a sequel, 367 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: so you're like, well, sure. 368 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, to give it sometimes, yeah, sometimes. 369 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: And I just wanted to put in here because every 370 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: time I watch this, I think that this. Even as 371 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: a kid, I remember believing like Emy's armpits were so 372 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: well shaved, and I. 373 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Was like, did women do that back then or did 374 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: they get that close? Like I don't know, but every 375 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: time that sticks out to me. 376 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: That's true. 377 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: All right, So that's the Mummy, And now I guess 378 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: we should talk about the Mummy Returns the Mummy Too. 379 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: But first let's pause for a quick break for a 380 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank you sponsor. 381 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: Okay, So, yes, the Mummy Too or the Mummy Returns 382 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: as actually correct. Honestly, I love all of the Mummy movies. 383 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 4: I know they're not great, not all of them are winners, 384 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: but yes, I love them, and I just really wanted 385 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: to make any watch this because she refuses to do so. 386 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: And honestly, I would have chosen to do the third 387 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: one two, but I thought it maybe too much for 388 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: her to handle, so I gave it up. But I mean, 389 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: come on, Russell long Gently and Michelle Yao. They're some 390 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 4: of my favorite actors and I really do love who 391 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: they are and the fact that they are part of 392 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 4: this franchise too. 393 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, so Samantha was very adamant that we 394 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: watched this, and I'm actually not even sure why I'm 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: so resistant to it, but I watched it last night. 396 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: I kept putting it off and putting it off, and 397 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I guess I'd better watch it. 398 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: And then after it was over, I checked the outline 399 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: and yeah, we so this was happening. We're recording it 400 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: the day after, and I had a moment because Samantha 401 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: hadn't added anything to the outline about then returns, where 402 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: I thought she had played a prank on me and 403 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: tricked me into watching it. 404 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: And I was like ourge. 405 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: By the way it was done. But I did have 406 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: a moment of like, what if I just deleted all 407 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: that part she put it in about the Mummy too 408 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 4: and just moved on. 409 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: I would have been furious. So like last night, I 410 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: was fuming, even though for all I knew you were 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: going to we. 412 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: Were going to talk about it, but even the possibility, right, 413 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be a good break. 414 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: But fortunately for everyone around, it's not a prank. And yes, 415 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: we are going to talk about it. Very briefly though, 416 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 4: because we are mainly going to focus on the original. 417 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: But I just had to put a very quick synopsis 418 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: so we can all bask in this glory of the sequel. 419 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: Sure, all right, So I like the first movie. We 420 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: have the opening scene that begins with a legend, the 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: Legend of the Scorpion King, played by the one and 422 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: only the Rock, Dwayne at the Rock Johnson, who I 423 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: believe this is one of his first acting It was 424 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: a first actually, yeah, and I that was one of 425 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: the first things I texted Samantha last night was Wow, 426 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: the acting is. 427 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: He's improved a lot, I'll say. 428 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, So he the Scorpion King became the Scorpion 429 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: King by giving his soul to the god I knew this, 430 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: who takes him after giving him victory over his enemies 431 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: with the help of his army. So there's just like 432 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: the Scorpion King Laura's again with the army of the 433 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: dead thing. And then we cut to the O'Connell's rickin 434 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: Evelyn Evy with their son Alex and yeah, they're still 435 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: getting into mischief by digging up things they shouldn't. Yeah, 436 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: archaeologists that keep digging things up. And it is really 437 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: funny because it plays on the whole how many mummies 438 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: and dead armies and things can we raise? 439 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: And they seem to have just accepted this, I guess. 440 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: So they discover a new treasure, the bracelet of a 441 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: nuboza oh, which is a huge mistake. And as they 442 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: discover it, they also learned that there is a trap 443 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: that for anyone who removes it too late. 444 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Do they see the inscription saying like don't open this warning. 445 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: You And we cut to like waters from the nile 446 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: rushing into their dig site where are they almost drowned? 447 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: But by chance, their son, who was trying to protect 448 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: the site from some shady thieves, breaks through the wall, 449 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: leasing them in yew. That's the pillar scene that's very 450 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: reminiscent of how we meet ev in the first one, right. 451 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: And poor kid I really like him, but his acting 452 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: is on par with the rock as well. Just going 453 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: with that out there. All the while, Ev is having 454 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: visions as if she was present during the time of 455 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: the pharaoh Seti and is able to know where everything 456 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: is mysteriously as if she's been there before. Cut too, 457 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: we see a crew of the bad guys digging up 458 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: the mummy Emmotep, and the crew is led by the 459 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: reincarnation of Immotep's love a Noxana Moon, who, like Ev, 460 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: is able to know where things are without being there before. 461 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: And of course they bring him back to life and 462 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: try to retrieve the bracelet from the O'Connell's so that 463 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 4: Imotep can command the Army of Anubis and take over 464 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: the world. Unbeknownst to all the adults, Alex has actually 465 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: put the bracelet on and started the journey of the 466 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 4: Bracelet that will lead them to the Scorpion King. 467 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: Why does everybody want to rule the world with these armies? 468 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: I don't need to. 469 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: Also just just note Phari Setti is the one that 470 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: a Noxuner Moon Emotep killed, so that's kind of the 471 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: visions EV's having. 472 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: Alex is then kidnapped by the mummy and. 473 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: The bad the bad dudes, which lead all of them 474 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: on a journey to get to the location of Scorpion King. 475 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: And we couldn't have a good mummy adventure without magi 476 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: Ardith Bay. He returns Evie's brother Jonathan, and this time 477 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: we added a dirigible. Of course, I was like, woh, 478 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: my god, flown by an old friend of Rick's Izzy 479 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: and some shrunken heads pygmy mummies to the mix. We 480 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: also discover that not only do we have the reincarnation 481 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: of a noxuoner Moon, but Princess nepher Titi, which turns 482 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: out to be Evi from a past life who was 483 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: the daughter of Pharaoh Seti. Uh yeah, again a Oxuna 484 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: moon and Emotep kills him and she she witnessed that 485 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: from like a balcony away and she is the protector 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: of of the bracelet as well. I guess we should 487 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: also say Rick is apparently some like guardian Yeah I. 488 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 4: Tried to look that up, but yeah, somebody he is 489 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: the guardian of. 490 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: He's like part of the magi think yeah. 491 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, brotherhood of sorts because he has. 492 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: The two as they say. 493 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, this is where my whole dumb beetle past 494 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: life test comes from so as they arrived to get 495 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: Alex back and try to stop the Scorpion King. Eb 496 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: is killed and then brought back to life through the book. 497 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: At the Dead of course by Alex. She fights ANX 498 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: in the moon while Rick is fighting a really ridiculous 499 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: looking CGI of the Rock as a scorpion King. I'm 500 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: not exaggerating when I say this consistently comes up on 501 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: list of the worst CGI of all time, especially from 502 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: like a big budget movie. 503 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: I think it was like I remember seeing this either 504 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: in the theaters I can't remember, but the audible laughter 505 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 4: of the in two years, seeing him come out of 506 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: the wall or the doors or the cave, and we 507 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 4: were all like. 508 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: What, Yeah, that guy like appears out of nowhere, that 509 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: kind of top He was ahead of the British Museum. 510 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: And he's sort of like top goon. 511 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he sort of appears and the Scorpion King rips 512 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: him into five pieces and I. 513 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: Was like, why is what. 514 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: He's got to show strength? 515 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were trying to They were trying to show 516 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: what he could do with his little scorpion limbs. Again, 517 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: if no one's seen this, this is essentially the Rock 518 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: with the scorpion bottom right, he's the top half is 519 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: the rock. 520 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 4: But it's all CGI, is all badly CGI, And at 521 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 4: this point in time, there's really no excuse about how 522 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 4: bad it was, why it was so bad. 523 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure that people working on it would argue, do you. 524 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: Think so I've seen? But that's the thing is, like 525 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 4: we've seen so much better. 526 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: Why, Yeah, they were working things out back then. I 527 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. 528 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: Okay, she'd made the Mummy noise noise. So as these 529 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: fights are going, Ev races in, so does the NOx 530 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: in the Moon. 531 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: See they're kind of loves in this battle. 532 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: Although Emo Tep is really thrown Rick under the bus, 533 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: which I get, but yeah, whatever. So Rick is able 534 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: to kill the Scorpion king, and Emotep and Rick are 535 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: both like hanging precariously over this chasm of dead souls 536 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: heale essentially yes, and they're trying to pull them the 537 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: these souls are trying to pull Rick in Emo Tip 538 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: down and the whole place is collapsing. EV runs in 539 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: and saves Rick, while Ox in the Moon abandons Emo 540 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: Tip and Imotep is so heartbroken he lets go and 541 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: presumably dies. 542 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: Who knows, Anyway, the escape a. 543 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: Oxy moon gets eaten by the scare of beetles, but 544 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Ev and Rick and Jonathan all the crew escape via dirigible. 545 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: Did they ever explain how they fixed it and got 546 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: the guests? He found something old, right, I shouldn't ask 547 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: any questions. Eusy came through. 548 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So they escape and again happily ever after until 549 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: the next one comes along. 550 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: I guess right, And there's a third one. And in 551 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: this one, we're not gonna talk anything, but I had 552 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: to mention it because I love it so much, just 553 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: the fact that they are now wealthy people. Oh yeah, 554 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: and they're no longer digging, they are now retired, and 555 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: they're both very bored. And yes, Rachel Weiss is no 556 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: longer there. It is now Maria Bellows. So it's not 557 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: Mummy three but The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, which, 558 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: by the way, got a one star rating. 559 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: We only talk about the finest films on the show. 560 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: And also twelve percent on Rotten Tomatoes. 561 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: The lowest we've ever hit. Pocus and Practical Magic. We're 562 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: like at twenty twenty eight percent. 563 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: Okay, o, go twelve percent on that, But eighty three 564 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: of the Google users like it, so hey, hey, okay, 565 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: maybe three percent. Sorry, So anyway, all of that is say, 566 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: they kind of jump into a new one where Alex 567 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: becomes an older archaeologist and is digging in China and 568 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: finds the Dragon Emperor and his vast army in the field. Whatever. 569 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go do into it, but it's fantastic 570 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: because I do love again those Asian actors, and I 571 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: think they're fantastic and to see them for just a 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: split second is delightful. But yes, that's the ridiculousness, like ooh, 573 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't know how Rick O'Connell could possibly beat in 574 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: combat gently but okay, yeah the Dragon King who was 575 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: also magical and knows a lot of martial arts, but hey, 576 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: who cares? 577 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: Right? Who cares? 578 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: But yes, that one is also a franchise. But the 579 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: Mummy is no longer a motep. They've now moved on 580 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: to China. Kind of finished us this child a little bit, 581 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: but whatever, still a delight to me, a delight and 582 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: worth one watch, but not a second one to talk about. 583 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: But I just had to throw that in there. 584 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only seen it once and the only part 585 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: I really remember is when it zooms in on should 586 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: be Rachel Weiss, and it's like it's like, I'm a 587 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: whole new person or something. 588 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: Her line an American actor was not great English accent, 589 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: say she's a whole new person, which is true. 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: That was one thing I noticed when I watched The 591 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: Mommy Returns, because I think I'd seen that like two 592 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: or three times before, but it's been I mean since 593 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: it came out. It was like a classic action sequel 594 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: in the sense that everything was way bigger. And Rick O'Connell, 595 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: like I love him, but he was doing things where 596 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, you've really upped your game. You 597 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: caught the knife, like over here, you're doing all kinds 598 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: of stunts. I'm very impressed. 599 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: But right, and also we're not going to talk about 600 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: the side of the There was a whole franchise of 601 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 4: The Scorpion King, but yeah, oh yeah, that's right. 602 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: Oh boy, that was also a one and done for 603 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: me in that movie. But if you're looking for a 604 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: laugh the Scorpion King, there you go. So all right, 605 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: now that we've gone through the plots of these we 606 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: did want to talk about some themes, but first we're 607 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: gonna pause for one more real quick for word from 608 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: our sponsor, and we're back. 609 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Thank you sponsor. So I did want to put a 610 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: disclaimer in here that maybe I should have put it 611 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: at the top. 612 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: But whatever, neither of these movies, or I guess none 613 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: of these movies, if we're gonna count with third one 614 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: would be a movie that pops into my head if 615 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: somebody asked me, like, name a feminist movie. Like if 616 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: I was trying to list feminist movies, I might get 617 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: to the nineteen ninety nine Mommy, but it would be way, way, 618 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: way way down the list. But then, you know, honestly, 619 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: I have some trouble thinking of feminist movies when people 620 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: ask me. So I don't know, but it's definitely not 621 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: something that it would come to mind for me until 622 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: the listener suggested it. The first one doesn't pass the 623 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: Bechdel test, I don't think. I don't think the second 624 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: one does either. Not that that's the end all be 625 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: all of feminist movies, but of note, and there are 626 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: definitely some problematic sayings in all of them, but there 627 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: are some excellent feminist elements too, particularly in the character 628 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: of ev. So let's start with her, and I'll be 629 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: focusing on the first one. So Evie is a really competent, smart, funny, determined, adventurous, charming, 630 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: and decisive character. Most of the plans she comes up 631 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: with them on her own, quickly and under pressure. I 632 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: also really appreciate how she's just sort of she's really 633 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: quick to anger or to be happy, like she's just yeah, 634 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, firey or so, I don't know. 635 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I like it. 636 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: She is feminine in a dress and with her long hair, 637 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: but that doesn't hold her back. She still has a 638 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: lot of agency and in a flip, her brother Jonathan 639 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: is the mess up in their family. Although it's kind 640 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: of funny because, especially in the beginning, I feel like 641 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: there's this vibe where I guess she thinks she's the 642 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: screw up in the family, but compared to Jonathan, she's 643 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: definitely not right. 644 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: Evie is the one that gets to Hamnatcha first. 645 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: She's the one that decides to stop the Mummy after 646 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: she brought him back, but she accepts her fault in 647 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: that she's the one to correctly translate something from the 648 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: Bimbage scholars that they had messed up, and this is 649 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: all after they consistently rejected her she's the one that 650 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: helps Jonathan translate an Egyptian inscription that saves them. And 651 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: this is while she's being attacked and strangled by a 652 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: Knox sunamoons mummified half alive corpse. 653 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's that to distracting. 654 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: And I love her reaction when Jonathan accidentally drops the 655 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: Book of the Living into that pool and has the 656 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: city is collassing. 657 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: She stops and is like, what have you done? 658 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: They have to drag her away because she's just so 659 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: passionate about these things. 660 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a scholar. Yeah, And Evie generally serves as 661 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: the leader of the group. Obviously, she's the one that 662 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 4: that's like, we need to go dig here instead of 663 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: let's do this this way. And Rick is the muscle, 664 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: you know. Even in the second one, she does the 665 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 4: same thing. She leads them to where they need to 666 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 4: go and she's like here, you know, start working. And 667 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: then he uses the bigger tools because of course he's 668 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: a man and he's comfortable in that position and comfortable 669 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: following her lead. The only time Rick takes the lead 670 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 4: is during physical situations or obviously when EV's not there, 671 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: and he he pretty much listens to her and trusts her, 672 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 4: follows her lead without complaint, and when they do disagree 673 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: or argue, they do as equals. So that's nice. 674 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean it is funny because she 675 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: is leader and often, especially in the second one, which 676 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: again I hadn't seen in a very long time, but 677 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: he's like, are you have to do this? And she's like, 678 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: for yes, She's just so adventurous and passionate about these things, 679 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 3: and he's kind of resigned to Okay, okay, I guess. 680 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: And I would argue that the first movie especially is 681 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: driven by her and Rick just follows her. I think 682 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: you could make a good argument that she's the main character. 683 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: At the very least. They kind of share that role 684 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: of main characters. And even when Evie is the damsel 685 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 3: in distress in the first one, it is by choice 686 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: to give the group the best chance of success. She's 687 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: not a passive victim, she is not cow. During her imprisonment, 688 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: she does use her ef femininity to kiss Emotep and 689 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: distract him from killing her friends. She threatens and vox binny, 690 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 3: which I do love. That seems she's like always He's like, 691 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: oh no. She helps her brother translate the inscription while 692 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: she's being attacked, and she's the one that reads the 693 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 3: passage that renders the mummy as mortal and allows Rick 694 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 3: to kill him. 695 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 4: And in the second one they do blame her for 696 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: killing Emotep, and that's why they kidnap her because they 697 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: won't revenge against her. They could care less about Rick. 698 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: They obviously blame her as they should, as well as 699 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 4: the fact that when you look at the second one, 700 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: it's her and a NOx on a moon who are 701 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: the protectors of pretty much the realm, whether it's the 702 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 4: bracelet or the Pharaoh. They protect, and they were chosen 703 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: to protect and fight, so it's kind of interesting to 704 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 4: get that. And yes, she actually gets to fight a 705 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: little bit in this one where she has some sore 706 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: play and play with size, even of course it was 707 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 4: very obvious it wasn't her during those scenes. But so 708 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 4: nice to think on and of golf. Of course, we 709 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: could also talk about the constant use of white women 710 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: with dark hair for characters like Neffherkadie and Cleopatra, but 711 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: that's a whole other conversation because she is supposed to 712 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: be a lineage of that in English as well. From 713 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 4: what I understood from the first one, right, her mother 714 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: was Egyptian, her father was Oh yeah, yeah, but you 715 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: know whatever, they know, we know all know this has 716 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 4: to be a stretch to tie things together perfectly, to 717 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 4: bring it to one. But yes, in both movies that 718 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 4: she also saves Rick, whether she saved them from the 719 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 4: gallows or she saves them from the pet of Hell obviously, 720 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 4: so she is the hero in both of these things. 721 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: They also still follow her footsteps in the second one, 722 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: and she even has her maternal instincts as a drive 723 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 4: and a push for this one as well to get 724 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 4: her son back. So yeah, you know, she's the main character. 725 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 4: I would agree with that. 726 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think so. 727 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: She's the leader for sure, absolutely, And I did want 728 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 3: to talk about the relationship aspect between Evie and Rick, 729 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 3: because Rick is clearly attracted to more than just her looks, 730 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: which is unfortunately kind of rare in these adventure action 731 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: adventure movies. He gives her the tools that he stole 732 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: because he knows that she's passionate about what she does 733 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: and good at what she does, and he wants her 734 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: to be able to lead them and find what she 735 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 3: wants to find. And Rick doesn't pursue romance with her 736 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: like most male characters from these adventure movies do. He 737 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: isn't showing off for her. He's just kind of this consistent, capable, respectful, 738 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: kind tender in the way that he follows her and 739 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 3: respects her. That's really allowed in male characters in this genre. 740 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: And also you do see, like as we mentioned when 741 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: we were doing the plot synopsis, you see Evie kind 742 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: of pining after him, which is rare too. Like normally 743 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: it's just like it's the guy's perspective and he and 744 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: she's just over the moon about him and so smitten 745 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: with him, and it's very one dimensional. 746 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: But in this she's like it's equally. 747 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 3: You can tell that they're both charmed equally by each other, 748 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: which is nice and yeah, pretty pretty rare for this 749 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: genre or especially at that time, right, And it does 750 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: continue in the second one, you do you see them 751 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: bill on that on this trust and like loving and 752 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: care and being on this equal ground and having their 753 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: like areas of expertise right where they trust that their 754 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: partner to handle this part of it or this part 755 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 3: of it, and the very accepting of each other, I would. 756 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: Right, I think, Yeah, in the second one, you definitely 757 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 4: see the relationship of them compromising, because they do still 758 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 4: go on adventures. They do go on a dangerous sight digging, yes, 759 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: but she gives in by saying, let's not go to 760 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: the next one. Now, let's go ahead and say here. 761 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: And of course they also have to add that the 762 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 4: Bimbridge scholars have been begging her of course for them now, 763 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 4: so that did equal out. We do get to see 764 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 4: all of that. You see the conversations they have as parents, 765 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 4: but at the same time still being madly in love, 766 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: so of course they have to one up that one 767 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 4: as well. So it is good to see that type 768 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 4: of relationship. We also see Jonathan still being a rake, 769 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: as they would say, and watching bridgerden y'all, it's it's 770 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: sleeping that language is sleeping in. But yeah, so you 771 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 4: see that as well, and I found that really of 772 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 4: course on par like with everything else, his greed and 773 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: his playboy acting, I guess. But it's also fun to 774 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 4: see their relationships still intact, and him being pretty childish 775 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 4: still and them kind of taking care of him. 776 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, troublemaker for sure, Yes, yes, and I 777 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: did it. I did appreciate that. 778 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: You get to see Evi and Rick separately as being 779 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: I would say good parents are very caring parents, like protective, 780 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: so you do, like it's kind of understood often that 781 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: you're going to see the mother in those maternal. 782 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: Instincts, but you did with Rick. 783 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: You really saw him being protective and his paternal protective 784 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 3: instincts too, so that was nice. And yeah, you do 785 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: have the comparison of because this whole thing starts with 786 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: the NOx suner mood an Emo tap trying to be together, 787 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 3: although I guess now after the second one you could 788 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 3: argue that a Noxyny Moon really wanted power and ultimately, yeah, 789 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: and that moment and the end of the second one 790 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 3: where Evie and a k Oxunamun are watching their their 791 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: husbands like I don't know if Moon is maritimetap, but 792 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: you know, lovers in danger and ev decides to save 793 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 3: Rick and a noxnymum flees. I always thought that part 794 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 3: was interesting, that there's like which one is the true 795 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: love and that you know, you still have this sort 796 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: of a oxy Moon throughout is kind of painted as 797 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: this power player who's got something else going on, which 798 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: is pretty common among female villains. 799 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 4: Right. The thing is like the first one, she was 800 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 4: not the villain. She was definitely someone you felt sorry 801 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 4: for because we don't see. What we don't see is 802 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 4: that the pharaoh's kind of evil. He keeps her as 803 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 4: a slave, essentially, like he calls her protector, and we 804 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 4: talk about that. But essentially she has no choice because 805 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 4: we know that her body paint is to show her purity, 806 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: that she would only be touched by him, right, And 807 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 4: so she was in love with another man. So it's 808 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 4: kind of a sad story in himself. But at the 809 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 4: same time, he'll become a mummy kill everyone else. 810 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: The moral of the story. 811 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: That's not cool. 812 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: The moral of the story. Yeah, I think we could 813 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: end on that. 814 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: Thanks again to the listener who suggested this and the 815 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: blog post lean in Red Dress. I know that that 816 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 3: blog post was written after another podcast really tore into 817 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: this movie for not being feminist. 818 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, we're just presenting a different point of view. 819 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: We know it's not the most feminist. 820 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: It's definitely not the most feminist, but it is this 821 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 4: enjoyable and there are some things to take away from 822 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: for sure. 823 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and like I said at the top, Evie 824 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: still holds up. 825 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 3: Ev is still a pretty great character, so if you 826 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: haven't seen it, we highly recommend it. 827 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 2: Samantha recommends the other two as well. 828 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 4: Go for it. Just go ahead and enjoy it, enjoy, 829 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 4: get your favorite drink. Go. 830 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: I agree, and in the meantime, we would love to 831 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: hear from you listeners, especially if you've got suggestions for 832 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: what our next movies or movie should be. You can 833 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: email us at Stuff Media, mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. 834 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: You can also find us on Instagram at stephone Never 835 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 3: Told You or on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast. Thanks 836 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: is always to our super producer Andrew Howard. Oh, thanks 837 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: and thanks to you for listening stephone Never Told You 838 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: to protection from iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit 839 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or where you listen to 840 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: your favorite shows.