1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes. So, as you know, my podcast 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is on tour and my next 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: stop is live in New York City with the one 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the Only Queen of New Jersey, Teresa Judais. Yes, on Tuesday, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: June eighteenth at the City Winery, Teresa Judais and I 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: will have a live conversation in front of a live audience. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Make sure you get your tickets now. Log onto my 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: website Kingdom raint dot com. That's Kingdom r E I 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: G N e n T dot com. Or if you're 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: on social media and follow me, click on the link 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: of my bio to purchase your tickets. Once again, the 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: website is Kingdom rainnt dot com. Hit the tab that 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: says tour and me and to Lisa Judais cannot wait 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to see you on Tuesday, June eighteenth in New York City. 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about ladies, gentlemen, 22 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and day. The time has come. I don't know if 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: it's the end of an era, but anyway, it's the 24 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: beginning of something great because I'm here with my beautiful friend. 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: You guys had heard three episodes in a row, and 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: she is so busy. Give it up, guys for the 27 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: amazing Kate Casey. 28 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: And give it up for you, my friend. Thank you 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: again for inviting me. 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: You are big in my heart and I am so 31 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: excited to talk to you band the Pump Rules Part 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: three reunion. 33 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: Take it away, Cake, your lens is going to be 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: different than every other podcaster out there that's commenting, and 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: the Lord knows what we all are. When you yes, 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: and when you're watching, given your breadth of experience in 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: unscripted television, be honest with me as you watch that 38 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: finale of the Part three reunion, did you think to yourself, 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: they made this as a finale. They made this as 40 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: a pause, or they made this as it's going to 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: come back and better than ever. 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: They made this with the intention of it going on pause. 43 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: For sure. The way this Part three was produced. I 44 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: have never in the history of the television I produced myself, 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: or my years at Bravo working on Housewives, have ever 46 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: not shown the cast the final episode, and they had 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to watch it in real time. And I think what 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: that displayed was they wanted the Rawley motion, for sure, 49 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: but I think they also wanted to sort of let 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: them know, like, you guys aren't coming back so fast, 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and that's why Lala. Of course I'm skipping to the end, 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: but we'll take it back to the beginning. That's why 53 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Lala had that reaction in the dressing room. I think 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: La La La LA's tears to me came from these 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: people fucked up my bag, and I'm pissed. I have 56 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: a child, I have two homes, I have two mortgages, 57 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: I have private school that my daughters, my daughter has 58 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: to attend. I think Katie's like, whatever, you know, I 59 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: have a sandwich shop. But no. I definitely think the 60 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: intention Kate was to let them know that in that moment, 61 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: you guys won't be seeing each other for a while. 62 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: We saw at Home the ending where it showed them 63 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: as they were when they joined the show and now. 64 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: But they didn't get to see that part. 65 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: So I wondered, since that aired after, you know, the filming, 66 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: did they come to some conclusion between the end of 67 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: filming and when they aired that final episode. 68 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I think they knew this. I think based on the 69 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: feedback from the audience about this season early not not 70 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: early on, but I would say maybe by episode five. 71 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: K I think we all kind of knew, like, we're 72 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: not that interested in this, like we thought we were 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: going to be yes right. I think they knew that 74 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: around that time when they shot the finale, they had 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: no idea this was going to be a show that 76 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: would be put on pause. I think they had a 77 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Santaval kind of intimated that when he said, 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I was doing my job and sorry, I disagree with you, Arihanna. 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I did not think it was good TV for you 80 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: to walk away. I don't care who you are. That's 81 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: not good TV. I think they knew towards the end, Kate, 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: that you guys have to talk. You guys have to talk. 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: You have to talk. It's sort of like Kim and Ini. 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: When I produce season four of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, 85 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Kate Kim and Ini did not speak that entire season. 86 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: The entire season. 87 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: What would you do by your season? 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Now, just for a moment, I need you to walk 89 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: me through that because we also see that on New 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: Jersey with Melissa and Teresa. So what is that like 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: behind the scenes? What is that like to work with 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: two cast members that refuse. 93 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: It's awful, It's bad. It's uncomfortable for the other cast members. 94 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: You don't know how to lighten the mood and listen. 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you know, it's like the Queen 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Bee and you know the girl next door not talking. 97 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: You don't care. It's too queen Bee. Right, let's have 98 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: a real conversation, Kim Andini, the or the queen Bees 99 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: on the same playing field. Right. Season four, as the 100 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: cast supporting cast, it's uncomfortable. As producers is uncomfortable. We tried. 101 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I have a story for you. I haven't told anyone 102 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: of the story. So so season four, we are scrambling 103 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: for our finale. This is what I can tell you, 104 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: with every fire for my being that they knew they 105 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: needed Arianna and Sandaval to talk at a finale. 106 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: So Mike it was the. 107 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: And Santaval said, I'm game. So on season four of 108 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: The Royal Housewives, of Atlanta. We had a finale party 109 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: and the finale, as you guys know, all the cast 110 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: members are there and Kim and Nini were there. It 111 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: was a drag show. It was Miss Lawrence. He had 112 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: a drag show where the queens were mimicking each of 113 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: the housewives like Candy, Kim, charae. 114 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember this, okay. 115 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: And we beg Nini and Kim to talk. Kim let to. 116 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: One of those conversations, sound like, what are you saying 117 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: to them? 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Guys, think about the bigger picture. It's the finale, it's 119 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the end of the road. You two are the queen bees. 120 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Can we at least get a conversation? Do what's best 121 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: for the show. What's best for the show is you 122 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: guys at least addressing this issue, because once again, it's 123 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: not that deep of an issue. You guys go through 124 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: this every season. Y'all love each other at the top 125 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: of the season and y'all fall out towards the end. 126 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: This is the first season where you guys are like, 127 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we're not speaking to each other at all, and that 128 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: was weird for us. Kim did not go on the 129 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Africa trip, so there was there was no room k 130 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: for these women to talk. I felt like Nini probably 131 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: would have tried if Kim showed a little bit of effort. Honey, 132 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Kim stormed out of the building, hop in her car 133 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: and drove off. And my showrunner and we all were 134 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: just like, we're fucked. 135 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: Because you have to you have to report back to headquarters, 136 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Like we didn't get anything. They say to you are 137 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: They like, well, what do you mean you didn't get anything? 138 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, Look, it's Kim and Nini, so no one 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: can control these two force multiplying. So they understood. But listen, 140 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: we're producers and you know this doing what you do, 141 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: your perfectionists. You want to do a good job. And 142 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: we felt like we failed. We felt like we failed 143 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: the audience. Honestly, it was more so about who wants 144 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: to watch a season where you're not talking at all? 145 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: So we felt like we felt the audience. And when 146 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: it came to the finale of vander Pump Rules, I 147 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: when they showed the showrunner talking to Tom and they're 148 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: breaking the fourth wall. It's a lot of pressure that 149 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: was put on any finale. But most importantly, we're only 150 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: watching this season to see what a conversation looks like 151 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: between Arihanna and Tom and I'm not here to tell 152 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: people what they should do. I will say this, I 153 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: felt bad for Rihanna in this this reunion. I felt like, 154 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: for the first time she really opened up in a 155 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: way that I kind of understood her more when she 156 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: said I just want you gone, so Kate when she 157 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: said that, obviously as producer, the reason why she did 158 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: not speak to him, Kate the entire season. She wanted 159 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: him gone from the show, and she felt like, if 160 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I give you a scene that keeps you dingo, guys, 161 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: that's why she didn't do it. 162 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: Well. 163 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: Also, there was a moment where she didn't want her 164 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: boyfriend or her boyfriend didn't want to participate. 165 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: Because he wasn't getting paid. 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting too that they included that, Yeah, 167 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: because they almost probably felt quartered like, we, as producers, 168 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: we have to kind of explain how complicated this is. 169 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's listen, you can't say I don't want 170 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: to film with my ex, but I can't film scenes 171 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: with my new boyfriend because he wantsn't. It's like, well, Arianna, 172 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: why are you here? And that was disturbing for me. Kate. 173 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: It's sort of like Why would I pay any newbie 174 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: any amount of money. You're only on the show because 175 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: you're dating the star of the show at this point, 176 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not paying you shit? Who are you? I 177 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: just started paying Brock? Why I'm paying you? Right? 178 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: And that took quite a bit from him. 179 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: Would it have made it better for the producers if 180 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: she had said sometime throughout the season, I don't want 181 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: to be around him because I feel like he purposely 182 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: humiliated me and everyone in the world has been privy 183 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: to my pain. Something like that where she kind of 184 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: explained that, because I feel like she was sort of silent, 185 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: like her modus operane was like, I'm just not going 186 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: to address him at all. I just want him to 187 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: go away, like as if he never existed. Right, But 188 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: do you think they would have been happier and felt 189 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: less pressure towards the end of the season to have 190 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: that moment if she had done. 191 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: That, I'm going to tell you why the Onus unfortunately 192 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: is on the cast. No one's forcing you to do 193 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: the show. 194 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: Right, and they be got paid well, they got well. 195 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Listen, listen the moment you signed on to do another season, 196 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: you know already you have to be around these people. 197 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: If you felt so uncomfortable being around him, then there 198 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: should have been a conversation that said, I don't want 199 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: to come back this season. If you guys want me 200 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: to be around him and film with him, I just 201 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: I would rather just take take the year off if 202 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: that's what you guys want. But if you guys are 203 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: comfortable with me not filming with him and all this season, 204 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: then that's fine. I don't think she had that conversation 205 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: because you have said it. And I think you can't 206 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: blame the producers for wanting the moment. We all want 207 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: it because that's their job too. And I agree with 208 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Lala and everyone else honestly in the sense of we 209 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: all had to deal with bad moments that we wish 210 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: we could not you know, talk about, but we did it. 211 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: It's our job. And I think the problem with some 212 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: reality stars they forget that this is a job. I 213 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: cannot kate, your kids cannot go to school, and the 214 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: teacher says, I don't feel like giving you guys a 215 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: lesson today. I'm going to sit back and listen to 216 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Casey Saturday series and how about trading? How about you 217 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: guys just you know, go on your phone no one 218 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: gets away with that. So reality stars, you sign on 219 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: to do a job, stop treating this show like you're 220 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: doing them a favor. 221 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: Two things with that, they started filming after the story exploded. 222 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: There was like a couple of weeks, you know, there 223 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: was like a like a layerver kind of period. What 224 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: kind of conversations do you think they would have had 225 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: with the cast before, you know, as they're signing their 226 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: contracts and they begin to film, would they have conversations like, 227 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, as part of us telling the story of 228 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: the aftermath, like you're all going to have to talk 229 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: about how you feel and what's going on in your lives. 230 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: Or do you think that they'd been filming for so 231 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: long they just assumed that they would do that. 232 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I think it's the ladder. I think when your show 233 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: has been off it's been ten seasons. 234 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: Is really very impressive because most shows don't make it 235 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: that way. 236 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Not at all, not at all, So it's super impressive. 237 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why they probably assume, like, well, 238 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: you know what this is, like, we filmed breakup, makeup, 239 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: And I think we also have to be reminded that 240 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: they lived together. They lived together, so of course as 241 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: a producer. I'm like, hey, guys, cameras up, go to 242 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: their house, spend the day there, Let's see what happens. 243 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I think Arianna unfortunately thought she was bigger than the show. 244 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: I think that she actually had been checked out. I 245 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: think she started to get all these opportunities, and she 246 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: finally was probably at a point where she was like, 247 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: I didn't really feel like I was part of the 248 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: show anyway, because she was sort of kind of in 249 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: the background before, Like, now I have the freedom to 250 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: actually leave the show. So I almost wonder if it 251 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: would have been better for her if she had left 252 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: in the same way Rachel did, just had not signed 253 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: on to another season. That would have given her the 254 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: space to properly heal, and they, inevitably, I think they 255 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: would have. 256 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Waited for her. 257 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: By the end of the episode, you know, she says 258 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: in her own words like I'm still not ready. 259 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm still healing. 260 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: So I feel badly for all the parties involved to 261 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: some degree, because she wants more time to heal. The 262 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: network wants to film because everybody in the world was 263 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: talking about this story, and so everybody's on different timelines. 264 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: No one like, no one in this whole thing. It 265 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: seems to be like they're happy. 266 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: No no, Noah and Tom obviously wanted the conversation. Did 267 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: you believe his tears when he started crying to Arianna. 268 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: No, I don't think he cared. 269 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: I actually don't think he has a problem with anything 270 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: that happened. I think he's really enjoying the attention that's 271 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: come with this whole scandal. I don't think he's upset 272 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: about Rachel. I don't think he's upset about Aria. I 273 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: don't think he thinks about anybody other than himself. 274 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: Do you believe those tears? 275 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It was one of those things 276 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: where I'm like because when he's when he said to 277 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: his cast, like, you guys know me, I'm emotional because 278 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I was. I was trying. 279 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: He's emotional when it has to do with things about himself, 280 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: like it's he sings a song and you know he's 281 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: it's all very performative, you know, And we know that 282 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: because if you look at the archival footage, he says 283 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the last day of filming, you know, oh, 284 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: it looks good for me. So I don't think he 285 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: has had one moment of introspection, and I think he's 286 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: so happy about how he became a mainstream celebrity from it. 287 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: That is wild. It is. 288 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: Which, by the way, most of these shows are built 289 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: on people that have that personality type. We all can't 290 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: forget this. This is not like Dolores down the street. 291 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: You know, these are people that have at some point 292 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: pursued this job because they thought it was the escalator 293 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: to success us or whatever it may be. They all 294 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: were pursuing jobs in the entertainment business. 295 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right, You're right, and and it 296 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: brings me to to just the Lala of it all. 297 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: So when they show the finale and Arianna got a 298 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: chance to see all the things that Lalla said about her, 299 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: she thinks she's Beyonce. Why is all of a sudden 300 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: She's like this god, you know all of these things. 301 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: And you saw you saw the reaction from Arianna's face, 302 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: like whoa. But La La stood on business. She said, 303 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna apologize for what I said, but I 304 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: will apologize if it made you feel bad. But I 305 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: felt that way when when La La started talking about Kate, 306 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, all this stuff she went through and she 307 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: never got to pass, and and and that's the part 308 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about when you 309 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: are producing a reality show, everybody wants to feel treated equally, obviously, 310 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: like any job. Yeah, but we know when it comes 311 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: to being famous, everybody wants to be treated like the 312 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: star of the show, although in every show there is 313 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: a star of the show, right, And I think for Lala, 314 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: she could not handle Arianna getting the special treatment because 315 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: she was not allowed that when she was going through 316 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: her stuff with Randall. 317 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's that much. I think 318 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: it's you first said. 319 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: I always say, and you always agree with me, that 320 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: these shows, the fights that they actually have on the 321 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: show are really about outside opportunities and perceived power positions. 322 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: So I don't even think it has to do much. 323 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: Even with Randall, I feel like it's really about I'm 324 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: the headliner of the show. And I think they were 325 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: all in disbelief that Arianna became the front runner. I 326 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: think they were like this girl who's been boring for 327 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: all these years. She's more, bigger deal than we are, bigger, better, better, 328 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: like what. I think they were so consumed by jealousy, which, 329 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: by the way, I like how many times, I've said 330 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: it's like a docu series on like the aftermath of 331 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: a scandal in American. 332 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: Media, Like that's what the show to me. 333 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: This season was like watching everybody get angry because she 334 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: was the one who was the front runner. I don't think, really, 335 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: I don't think it really has that much to do 336 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: with like, I think she there's a part of Laala 337 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: that made peace with the fact. I think in the 338 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: quiet of the night, when she's alone in her thoughts, 339 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: she knows that certain things that she said and did 340 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: early on in the show made a lot of the 341 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: audience never want to embrace her, you know, kind of 342 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: body shaming people and the way that you know, she 343 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: was kind of like unwilling to talk about her relationship, 344 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: and there were signing NDAs so they couldn't reveal who 345 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: the boyfriend was. 346 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: I think she does know. I think she's a smart girl. 347 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: She knows that. 348 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: I think this really was about who is number one 349 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: in this show. I think they're running through that numbers 350 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: the whole time, like episode two or whatever, like the 351 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: first two weeks of filming, they're like, I hope she's 352 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: not getting paid more than I am. I hope she's 353 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: not gonna be called to watch a ton she got 354 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: a razor deal or we're kiddying ourselves right now. Oh, 355 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: she's got a deal with a box company. You gotta 356 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: be fucking kidding me. 357 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: I think that's really what it's all about. 358 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: And honey, that's what the season. That's way more interesting 359 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: to me. 360 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: That, to me, was the story. That was it. 361 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: That's the smoking gun. Oh my gosh, you're right, because 362 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: the thing is this Arianna was always the one you 363 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: sort of forgot about, right, Yeah, she was. 364 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: But I also think that's because Tom Sandoval made it 365 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: that way. I mean, is she somebody that probably walks 366 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: into a room and kicks the door open. No, I 367 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: think she's probably a little bit more of an introvert, 368 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: you know, a little bit more quiet. But I think 369 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: he enjoyed that about her because he has to be 370 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: the star of the show. He purposely chose someone like that. 371 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: He likes Rachel's you know that are like quiet and 372 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: let him lead the way. I think that guy thought 373 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: he was number one guy of the entire show, not 374 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: even of the guys, but number one in his mind. 375 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: They're all operating like that. Sheena still thinks she's number 376 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: one on the show. How about this scene where she's like, 377 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: why can't it ever just be about me? 378 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, what a girl they're all but they're all 379 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 3: like that. 380 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I know, because oh my god, this is so fascinating 381 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: to me. Is what you said is the aftermath of 382 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: a scandal in American media, right, how the dark Horse 383 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: galloped to become the star of the show and these 384 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: sort of narcissistic characters from La La to James Kennedy 385 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: to Sanda Baal. I think those three, if you ask 386 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: any of those three to me, I think those three 387 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: think like I'm the face of the show. Now, I'm 388 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: the face. 389 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent. 390 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: But the dark course with someone who they least expected. 391 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: It was someone who doesn't have to swallow all the 392 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: air in the room. And on top of it, probably 393 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: there is an element of like and they're all like 394 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: loving her and feeling such empathy for her, like where 395 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: did this girl come from? 396 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: I think it's all about that. You know what It's like. 397 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: It's like those classic. 398 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: Movies of the nineties where you know, there's the popular 399 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: group of girls at school and then they're like horrified 400 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: when the when the playing girl in the background gets 401 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: the guy's attention. It's like a Freddie Prin's movie junior movie. 402 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Starry Sa Michelle Geller right. 403 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: And they're like wait, and all the popular girls are 404 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: like who is this girl? And then she's like prom 405 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: queen or whatever. 406 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: It's kind of like that. 407 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: They're like wait what They cannot believe it, And then 408 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: on top of it, it's like, how much money are 409 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 2: you gonna make Anny next season? I mean to their 410 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: that they did make moment, most of the moment with 411 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: the merchandise and all that stuff, But the only glitch 412 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: is that I think they thought that that would continue 413 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: on and on and on, and it's just like these 414 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: moments just live in small spaces and time. 415 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. This is fascinating to me because 416 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: as a producer I can say to you the thought 417 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: process that some reality stars have is just that, is 418 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: she gonna be in watching happens life more than me? 419 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Is she getting on her is she getting a raise? 420 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: Why is she getting all these opportunities? I mean, shit, 421 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: other people having cheated on Why does she get dancing 422 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: with the stars? Why? I think the biggest thing to 423 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: me this is what I knew Kate. We were operating 424 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: in a whole nother fucking universe. Ask you no, excuse me, 425 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm an a watch her the View when The View 426 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: turned their set into Sir Restaurant and they dedicated the 427 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: entire segment to Ariana, which. 428 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: By the way, Joe Joy Behar has never watched joy 429 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: An episode. 430 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: She has no idea, none of them. What are we 431 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: talking about? 432 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: Why we talk about this blonde woman like I cheated on? 433 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? This is what the world has 434 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: come to. When I saw that, I said, we're. 435 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Yep, But I remember I asked Alex about it and 436 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: he said, you know, something like real Haizards of Beverly 437 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: Hills and the Girardi lawsuits so complex, but this skin 438 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: of all was just very relatable. A mistress, a cheating 439 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: affair like that's relatable everywhere anywhere in the world. 440 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Who's your friend? Who did it on your nose? 441 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: Yep? 442 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: No, it was the makings like you said, it's the 443 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: makings of a scandal, and now we're talking about the air. 444 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: And then also when Lala said, I don't think they've 445 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: been honest about their relationship the whole time. So imagine 446 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: you're on a show and you feel like in their mind, 447 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: they were all like, I'm living authentically, which I don't know. 448 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: I mean, unless I'm filming the show, I don't know 449 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: how authentic they are. But like we're living this like 450 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, we're burying it all. And then these two 451 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: yahoos come out of nowhere like they've been acting this 452 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: whole time, like they're in this love affair and now 453 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: everybody is talking about they've coined it scandalal like he 454 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: gets taught, like his name in this. 455 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: Top billing. Are we kidding here? Lala's like it should 456 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: have been called Lalapalooza. You know what I mean. 457 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna title this episode. 458 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: This is so funny too, But like so much of 459 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: this season was like wait, Dancing with the Stars, like 460 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Shena is upset by the way, I mean, credit to 461 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: the guys and the girls behind the scenes make a 462 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: miss show because they must have been punching a wall laughing, 463 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: like the Dancing with the Stars. The wars, Like how 464 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: do I wouldn't you tell me? I've been like practicing 465 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: my whole life to be on that show. 466 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: If that's what it's all about. 467 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: At this point, it's like, let's stop kidding ourselves is 468 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: they're about a group of friends. I don't even think 469 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: that most of them are even friends anymore. 470 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: And it's funny. It also reminds me to Kate when 471 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Mauricio got Dancing with the Stars and Kyle so crazy, 472 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: right what? 473 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: So imagine that you're on the show for years and 474 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: your she's like, my family has been in Hollywood for 475 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: how many years? And this bozo who sells you know, 476 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: condos and four bedroom houses. 477 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: Dancing till he has an agency in Mexico and aspd in. 478 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: They're like, just because he sells a house in Mexico 479 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: City doesn't mean he can do the chimmy choga. 480 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: Or whatever those dances are? What is it called apasso 481 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: doble a? 482 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: But that's what I mean, let's be honest, Like you 483 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: work with these reality stars, it's all about like what 484 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: other answery opportunities? 485 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: How much attention am I getting? How many followers you have? 486 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: Do you remember back in the old days, when like 487 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: Real House was Atlanta, stars used to like fight over 488 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: who had more followers, and then they were like all 489 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: getting botsed out do one another because that's the crap 490 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: that they would think about. Everybody has to Remember they're 491 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: not like us. But you know, like people are trying 492 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: to make sense of it this season, you can't make 493 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: sense of it because we can't really relate. 494 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: No, but this is why I'm gagging. You made sense 495 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: of what this entire season was about. And what this 496 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: entire season was about is the fact that ninety percent 497 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: of this cast could not handle that the quiet Woman 498 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: became the star of the show and they all felt 499 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: like producers allegedly placated to her, that they made sure 500 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: she wasn't put in an uncomfortable situation, she wasn't forced. 501 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: And I don't agree with that at all. I think 502 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: that's absurd. Yeah, I don't think that's true. Do you 503 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: think that's true? 504 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: No? 505 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: Do you think they spent the entire season like on 506 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: their tippy toes around her? I bet you they were 507 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: like frustrated, they wanted more out of her. But you're 508 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: dealing with someone who is very open about the fact 509 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: they do not at that point in time want to 510 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: talk to somebody that just wronged them, Like you can't push. 511 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Well, you can't push, right, So that's why it's it 512 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: was always uncomfortable from the onslaught because the moment she 513 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: signed on to do the season. Everybody working on that 514 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: show said, yes, we were gonna get the moment because 515 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: ten years into making this show. One thing about this cast, 516 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: I will say this, they will go down history as 517 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: one of the best casts in reality television, you know 518 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: history to me, like the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, Atlanta, Like 519 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: there's cast that you're like the Hills, you know that 520 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: that just that was just magic and this cast was magic. 521 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: So when she came back, I really do believe like 522 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: you said, they were frustrated, like you're not going to 523 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: talk to the person that low key gave us another season? 524 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: Right? 525 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: And now, yeah, they're own palls? Do you think this 526 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: pause is a real Housewives of Miami palls? 527 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: Like years years? I don't think they can film for 528 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: a while. 529 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 2: I don't think they only because I think they're probably like, 530 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't really know what this show is anymore, because 531 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: like I talked to a lot to producers and sometimes 532 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: they'll say that like they were working on a project 533 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: and it's like we don't really know what this is 534 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: or what this is going to be. And as it 535 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: is right now, I don't think there is anything much there, 536 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: and there's not one cast member alone. That is enough 537 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: for a show. They worked well because they were a 538 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: great ensemble. And sometimes, like I've heard someone behind the 539 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: scenes say about Real Housewives and it still makes me laugh. 540 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: And it's been years and years. They said, they all 541 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: come to me and they want to spin off, and 542 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: I just want to say to them, you only make 543 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: sense on that, yes, like you only make sense and ensemble. 544 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: You don't make sense anywhere else. It's like somebody who 545 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: plays water polo who then wants to be a soccer player. 546 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: You make sense in water, not on land. 547 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: But seriously, you make this a water cave but not land. 548 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're not Jesus, You're not 549 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna walk on water. 550 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: But baby, but can we just like also take a 551 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: moment and just think, because everyone's like lost in like 552 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: their emotions and stuff. But if you're really in charge 553 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: of the show, I want everyone to just to kind 554 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: of like imagine yourself and just like a drone moving 555 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: out of the middle of this. Laala is going to 556 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: have another child? How much does her life really relate 557 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 2: anymore to Tom Schwartz? Yeah, and does Katie ever really 558 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: have much to do with Sena anymore? Like it all 559 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: doesn't make that much sense anymore. You need to, like 560 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: time for it to breathe, and it maybe turns into 561 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: something completely different. And maybe the blessing of that is 562 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: that Katie has a whole new group of friends. 563 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 3: She hangs out with them. They're more interesting than the 564 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: original cast ever was. 565 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I said on your show last week, 566 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 2: Lala would make sense as a real housewife, but not 567 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: for another ten years when her kids are teenagers and 568 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: they can roast her. But I don't think people want 569 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: to see her like making baby food because they like 570 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 2: her banter. 571 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: She's somebody who does well with banter. 572 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, Like I just think on her own 573 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: she would be exhausted from it. She needs people to 574 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: play off of. Oh wait, the other thing, I wait, 575 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: this is such a nuance. When she said the thing 576 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: about Jack's and Brittany and the babysitter versus a nanny, yes, 577 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: like that was kind of absurd because well, you would 578 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: get this. She said, there's a difference between a babysitter 579 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: and a nanny, And essentially she was mad at Brittany 580 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: and because Brittany and Jackson called her and probably spoke 581 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: to her mother because she wasn't available because they were 582 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: in Kentucky, and they found out that La La was 583 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: poaching the babysitter or the nanny, so they're both using 584 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: the same babysitter. So Lala's point was like, well, it's 585 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: all semantics because there's a difference between a baby and 586 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: a nan, a babysitter and nanny. I just use her 587 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: as a babysitter. What's the big deal. Well, you're pregnant 588 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: with a second child, which would mean you require more time, 589 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: and they have a child who has special needs, and 590 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: when you have a child with special needs, change is difficult. 591 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: For the child. That's why they went crazy. Yeah, I 592 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: just want to add that. 593 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: No, no, and I'm glad you did because a lot of 594 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: people missed that, right. But no, I'm glad you raised 595 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: that point too, because, look, I agree with you in 596 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the sense of none of these cast members can carry 597 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: a show on their own. The thing about Vanda Pum 598 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Rules is do we care to see another season like this? 599 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: So I think you and I can say no to that. 600 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: But do we think the show could have ever survived 601 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: if Rihanna did not return this season? 602 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, absolutely not. 603 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, because only because like this massive issue. 604 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, trying to make a show after 605 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: COVID and not addressing that there was COVID. 606 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it would be weird. 607 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: I also kind of feel like I don't know if 608 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: Ariana should have come back. I think she should have 609 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: taken Well, it's hard for It's easy for me to 610 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: say because I don't know her find aential situation, and 611 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't you know, don't know what her game plan is. 612 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: With her team. 613 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: But I thought I think she had a lot of power, 614 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: more power than she realizes now. If she had said 615 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't want a film for at least six months, 616 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: I think they would have said okay. 617 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they would have pushed production for six months. 618 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do. And I think she maybe would 619 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: have felt better about it by then and possibly even 620 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: maximized even more opportunities in the meantime. I mean, I 621 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 2: think she's top of mind now for lots of stuff, 622 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: isn't We can we just talk about how funny that is? Again, 623 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: they're like this girl who never spoke she is now 624 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: hosting Love Island. 625 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like what happened? 626 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: Who? 627 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: You would think La? La will host Love Island. 628 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: I know, right, I know She's probably like, I'm not 629 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: hosting Love you guys. I this like when I tell 630 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: my kids, like it's my birthday every year and I'm like, you, guys, 631 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm a year older and they're like, we know you're old, 632 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 2: Like we got it. 633 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: Like this is no surprise to us. Yeah. 634 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: I think she was probably like what, But I think 635 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: that's how they all exist. She got to be on 636 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. Is so funny again that Dancing 637 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 2: with the Stars is like the crum de la crumb. 638 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: That sounds like a goddamn nightmare. 639 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: Well, Liasta Banda Pop allegedly quit after two weeks because 640 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: if that job is hard. Okay, So I guess you 641 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: and I need to decide, Kate, how many years does 642 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: vand Pump Rules need to be on pause? 643 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 3: At the very least a year? 644 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: One year? 645 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the very least. Oh, by the way, what 646 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: are they going to do in the meantime? What are 647 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: they going to do? 648 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Is Arianna going to get gigs in that one year pause? 649 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: Is the Is the hype going to die down for her? Well? 650 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, and eventually will. But I think that she 651 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: has been wise to book a lot of stuff, so 652 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: she might go, you know what, I kind of need 653 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: four months off, like I want to just like chill out, 654 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: because she's going from there that she's going to host 655 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: the show, and then she'll probably have a couple more things. 656 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: She takes a four month break and then they come back. 657 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: But then, you know what the real story is how 658 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: much they despise her because they've been Nicol and Diamond 659 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: outside you know, Panhandlon on Sons and Lord, and she 660 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: used to pull up in a Bentley and she used 661 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: to have like a fur coat on and like a 662 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: cigarette extender shar like an old timey woman. Yes, jambozos, 663 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: what have you guys been up to? I was just 664 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: at the Vanity Fair party and then sheena like bites 665 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: on glass. 666 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: That's the story. That's it. 667 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Actually, I mean, look 668 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: what we saw when the show's going pause is this 669 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Miami Housewives is the best Housewives to. 670 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: Me, without question, there's no like number one, top of 671 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: the top right here, pop well, Chef's kiss good. 672 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: Amazing, And then I mean, look the valley is the 673 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: show that it's good? Right? Jack's Brittany all on pause 674 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: for what like two maybe three years actually right, yeah. 675 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: That was yeah, But by the way, it's they're more 676 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: interesting now. 677 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: So it worked for them. So again, I think we 678 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: need to miss them, and I think Arianna and Tom 679 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: need to have other relationships to where the focus. 680 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Isn't they didn't even have a hot minute to just 681 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: even like let it breathe. I mean again, I have 682 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: empathy for all the parties involved, network producers, cast all 683 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: of that. No one was going to be happy with 684 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: that timeline. They were dealing with such huge fame and 685 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 2: interest and wanted to make the most of the moment. 686 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: But the truth is, I think it would have always 687 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: been there. If you had waited six months, I think 688 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 2: people still would have been interested. 689 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: And look, I will say this, you guys had a 690 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: hell of a round ten seasons of any reality show. 691 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: It's nothing to sneeze at, and they deserve all the 692 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: props in the world for continuing to entertain us. And 693 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: I listen, I feel bad for the kids. 694 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: James Kennedy's He's going to make the most of all 695 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 3: of them. 696 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, everybody wants to party, 697 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: so a DJ of his celebrity. Yes, you're you're always 698 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: going to want to see that. It's the reason why 699 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: DJ poly d is still relevant. Yes, that is something 700 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: that is sustainable. Like you said, A be's a Vegas. 701 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: La the party, the party. 702 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely is going to be Okay. I think 703 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: a few of them may be on Traders. I could 704 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: see or time on Traders honestly. 705 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh you know, Katie would be pretty good too. 706 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: Katie would be great. 707 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: Actually, you know why because Katie is a really good 708 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: at sniffing out the con. 709 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: She's very good at that. 710 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: And she's calm with it, and she yes, I like 711 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: that that the I as she's she's. 712 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: Like, you know what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say 713 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: she goes on Traders and then she becomes more successful 714 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: than she's ever been ever on vander Pump Rules. Then 715 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: when she comes back, she's going to be like, you fools, 716 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: I killed it on the Traders and then has a 717 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: whole other element. It's the people that they didn't expect 718 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: to be stars that will come out winning. 719 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New 720 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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