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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Stay here are Mickey Spagnola. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us Rob Phillips and Bill Jones and welcome into Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio, a chili studio and

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Speaker 1: a chili rainy day out here at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys out there practicing THEA in it right now, Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips and for Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: Bie Weeks over. It's time to get back to work, fellas.

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Speaker 1: Nine games right, nine games to decide this season the

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Speaker 1: Filling four and three football team. Jerry Jones was asked

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Speaker 1: about that football team and their record. Not too happy

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Speaker 1: about that? Huh thinks it should be better? Is anybody

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Speaker 1: happy with it? Are you happy with it? No? Why

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Speaker 1: should be six and one? Six and one? Yeah? The

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Speaker 1: thing that made the thing I learned this weekend is

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Speaker 1: teams take advantage of players being out, like Green Bay

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of Kansas City not having their quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: wish you could have done the same thing against New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: You know, anytime a key players out of a game,

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Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of that. And that's maybe

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Speaker 1: what this team is. Maybe this team is a four

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Speaker 1: and three team. That's what the record says. Am I

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Speaker 1: right about that? Mickey? Yeah? Absolutely. And when you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at it, and you lose two of

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Speaker 1: those three games by two points, should have won both

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Speaker 1: of them. Sure, I'll give you the Green Bay game

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Speaker 1: for whatever reasons, and there were a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: they ended up losing by what they did. But you

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Speaker 1: can't lose to the Jets, no, I'm sorry. And look

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Speaker 1: what these other teams have done to Sam Darnold the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. Yeah, so even though they had a

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Speaker 1: lot of offensive guys out, he still felt like they say,

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Speaker 1: to get it done. Ninety two yard touchdown. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the offensive tackles not being there.

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Speaker 1: This is Jerry's quote on the fan this morning. I

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Speaker 1: think that we have the potential. He's speaking about being

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Speaker 1: a contender. I don't think the way that we have

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Speaker 1: played so far we'll get us there on balance the

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Speaker 1: good and bad. Yeah, but he cites the health of

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Speaker 1: this team right now, the talent level, and the things

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do to improve moving forward. He said, quote,

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Speaker 1: I think we've got a chance to get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And if we do, and if we're healthy, I think

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Speaker 1: we've got a chance to advance. He's being awfully realistic

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Speaker 1: about the situation right now. Well, when they do lead

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles and it's like, okay, well how about

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Speaker 1: that on a consistent basis, Yeah, you know, you had

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Speaker 1: you had New Orleans. You're on the road, right on

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Speaker 1: the road in that place, and you hold them to

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Speaker 1: twelve points and all you can manage is ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and weird things happened. I know, you

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Speaker 1: lose two fumbles. One of them shouldn't have been lost.

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Speaker 1: Uh you you had a first and ten at the

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Speaker 1: eleven and you kicked the field goal. You missed the

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Speaker 1: field goal. I could find you three points real easy

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Speaker 1: in that game. Sure, And so yeah, you know that

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Speaker 1: was a winnable game. I'm sorry, and we knew that.

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Speaker 1: That's why. I don't know why when Jerry said that today,

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Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, oh, he's unhappy. Well, they're all unhappy.

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Speaker 1: Go ask the head coach. Sure, go ask the quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, go ask the CEO. They're they're all unhappy

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Speaker 1: that they're four and three. So and that's a good

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Speaker 1: thing because they shouldn't be satisfied, and especially with the

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Speaker 1: from here. And it's going to be a tough road.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go play Monday night. Then you got to

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Speaker 1: come home play Minnesota, and then the next three of

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Speaker 1: a short week after a long trip back from New

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Speaker 1: England on an afternoon game. And I imagine it we'll

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Speaker 1: get into the Giants probably as the week goes on, Brian,

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Speaker 1: but it's a different football team. It is different quarterback

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Speaker 1: that they'll face this week. It is Daniel jones Is.

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Speaker 1: I've applauded Dave Gettelman and and Pat Shermer for making

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Speaker 1: that move. You know, they weren't going nowhere with Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning is a great part of their history Giants

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Speaker 1: cowboy receivers ate him alive doing that. So, yeah, things

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Speaker 1: are different on offense. They're not so much different on defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that the Giants. They've had to live

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Speaker 1: that second half got away from him. There. So different team, yes, offensively,

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Speaker 1: different team defensively absolutely not same problems given up a

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Speaker 1: They do not get any pressure on your on your front.

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Speaker 1: And it's a shame when you and I don't care

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Speaker 1: Brian said, he just may be the answer on offense

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Speaker 1: and gold and Golden Tate had a nice game on Sunday. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: things that Mickey talked about. The missfield goals, penalties, turnovers,

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Speaker 1: need to encourage Daniel Jones to play in this game

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Speaker 1: kind of like the Jets game. Oh yeah, don't give them,

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Speaker 1: should really worry about, you know. I know they've done

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Speaker 1: some better things in the run game, Cowboys defensively, but

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Speaker 1: out that they played good enough against Philadelphia to do that.

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Speaker 1: got to have that kind of intensity for the next

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Speaker 1: nine weeks. And they got to play better on the road.

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Speaker 1: They've struggled in every first half until the Eagles game.

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Speaker 1: So they got to play better on the road. They can't.

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Speaker 1: you let that happen. They're one and two. Used to

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Speaker 1: be a staple of Jason Garrett was good road team,

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Speaker 1: the second half coming back. But Mickey's right, the margin

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Speaker 1: of era on the road has not been good. The

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Speaker 1: that's been a problem. Absolutely. Now, the bye week I'm

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Speaker 1: sure helped a lot of guys health healthy. Yeah, and Brian,

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Speaker 1: you radio professional, you segued right into the defensive pass

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Speaker 1: new player on defense number seventy nine. He's out there

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Speaker 1: practicing right now. Michael Bennett. Cowboys completed the trade with

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Speaker 1: that was a seventh round pick. We move on. But

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Speaker 1: So I just don't see as it's a win win

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Speaker 1: UM go with it. Veteran guy. He had nine sacks

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Speaker 1: last year for the Eagles, a lot of pressures too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's when, yeah, sometimes pressure is more important

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Speaker 1: you with the Bill Belichick, and you know, he's developed

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Speaker 1: is when it explained to me it wasn't he wasn't

426
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: even doing a football deal. He was holding the bags

427
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: and the people were punching him like they hold up

428
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: the pads, and he got a step back and strained

429
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: his calf. Sometimes those are the worst injuries. That's that's

430
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: a position where okay, if it's Brandon Knight as your

431
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: swing tackle, you know, and then the next guy's up

432
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: are your guards who would have to move outside and

433
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: feel moves inside. Yeah, that's that's the the plan. One

434
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: A is Brandon Knight. Plan one B is hello Connor

435
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: Williams or hello Zach Martin. You know that if that

436
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: came to that, so you know, and then they do

437
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: have a couple of kids on the practice squad and

438
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that if they felt like that thing was

439
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: long term. But Mickey was Mickey was very on the

440
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: spot talking about maybe two to three games kind of

441
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: a thing. So we'll see. And it's a deal with

442
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith and Lyle Collins that have been banged up

443
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: this year. But the bye week I'm sure helped both guys.

444
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: They were able to play in the Eagles game, they

445
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: were outstanding. Yeah, I mean, I know, I know Smith

446
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: probably struggled a little bit more than Collins. He eliminated

447
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham in that game. And you and you worry

448
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: about Brandon Graham. You worry about Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham,

449
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: those are the two names you worry about. So yeah,

450
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: and then this this week we've talked about earlier. Giants

451
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: don't have a great pass rush. They just don't. And

452
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, if they can hold up. You know, Dak

453
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Prescott can continue to make throws. We've seen him have

454
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: success last year. Remember the game against the Giants at

455
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: the end of the year. I mean he he won

456
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: that game with one of the best throws I've ever

457
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: seen to Zicole Beasley. So and hopefully they get to

458
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper going again. And then also remember Randall Cobb

459
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: had a really nice game against these guys in Week one,

460
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: So maybe get him back in the end zone once again.

461
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like the worst position of need

462
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: out there is offensive line, right, There's not enough of

463
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: them to go around. We talk about it in camp

464
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: every year teams aren't cutting them. No. No, if you've

465
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: got them, you hang on to them. And no one

466
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: has a surplus, no. And it's it's funny that you

467
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: say that even the really good teams like New England

468
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: was hunting. I mean there's seven to no. They're always

469
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: hunting offensive lineman. You know, they get away with with

470
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: the guys they play with, but they don't nearly have

471
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the kid a whyat the kid they drafted

472
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: from from Georgia a couple of years ago is just

473
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: now working back in. I mean, they've gone a long

474
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: time without having guys, you know, quality backup guys. But

475
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: they get by because of the quarterback and the receivers

476
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: and the running backs. The way they play. I mean

477
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: remember the slash turnovers. When Philadelphia was going to be

478
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: without Peters, Brian pointed out the rookie first, what was Dillard?

479
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Is it Andre Dillard get and they were hesitant to

480
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: play him and he was a first round pick. So

481
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: just imagine what everybody else is out there kind of

482
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: trying to play with. They're not they're not you know,

483
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: you're not going to give up what evidently Washington's looking

484
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: for with Trent Williams. It sounded like they want two

485
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: first round picks or a first in a second. They

486
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: have out two, for sure, I've heard, and but they're

487
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: probably looking for a one. Yeah, is what they're looking

488
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: for for for sure. Right there. That's Washington being stubborn

489
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: right there though. But that's also shows you how valuable

490
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: if you can find one of these guys that somebody

491
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: wants to get ridder, but no one wants to get

492
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: rid of these guys, and you can say, okay, well

493
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: maybe you spotted somebody on somebody's practice squad. Okay, well

494
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: that's just bringing in another guy to hasn't played, which

495
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: just shows you two Washington situation running game. Moses is

496
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: now the head coach on the entrance basis, and the

497
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: guy still doesn't want to play, you know, you know

498
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: you figure man, his coach is involved, man, you know,

499
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: and he's still now I'm not interested in coming into

500
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: that train wreck. I never thought i'd say they miss

501
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: they miss Cameron Fleming, but maybe they're good. Well, Brandon

502
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Knight showed them some things in the limited snaps he's gotten. However,

503
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: he's a rookie, undrafted rookie. Yeah, and that's why they

504
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: went with Fleming in that swing role when he's been healthy.

505
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: Marc Colombo saw something in the kid that he was

506
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: playing guard. I mean, he was playing tackle. I've seen

507
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: him played tackle at Indiana. Wasn't terrible signs as a

508
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: free agent. If you would have said, hey, who is

509
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: the surprise guy that's gonna make this football team, someone

510
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: would have put me and said, oh, hey, by the way,

511
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: Brian Brandon Knight's gonna make this football team. It's at guard.

512
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: I might get out of here. No, But they they

513
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: thought enough of him, and he wasn't He's he hasn't

514
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: been terrible. I think that he's gonna be if he

515
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: had to play, would be happier with him than he

516
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: would Camp Flaming. He's actually an example of what you

517
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: guys are talking about. They had some injuries early in

518
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: the season, had to get I think Cedric Wilson up

519
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: from the practice squad. He was not the cut never

520
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: was to make I mean, and they had a surplus

521
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: there and they hung on to him for basically what

522
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about. If you think you got

523
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: a good when you hang on to him at tackle, which,

524
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: by the way, they they were able to release justin Hamilton.

525
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: They figured that was the spot to make room friends. Yes,

526
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: and he had Bennett, he had number seventy nine. I

527
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: believe they didn't and for a brief moment, very brief moment,

528
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: and blink of an eye, and now when you see

529
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Bennett out there, yeah, he'll be in seventy nine. Okay,

530
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: So you guys have talked trade and I know we're

531
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: taping this as of Tuesday morning, so if if you

532
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: folks listen later in the day, this will be old news.

533
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: But trade deadline at three pm Central, Jerry Jones said

534
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: on the fan quote, anything is possible when it comes

535
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: to making a deal. You think he's being serious, You

536
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: think they've got something. I think you know, the phones

537
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: have been ringing both ways, probably and you can just

538
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of listen and then, um, I don't. I don't

539
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: see a big splash. What else do you think they need? Well,

540
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: I just told you, besides anything else besides potential offensive

541
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: tackle depth, they've addressed defensive line specifically, maybe the interior

542
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: more than the exterior line. Has anybody Mickey talked to

543
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: you about a safety? Has anybody hit just the radio radio,

544
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: the radio guys, Yeah, you know, I and you know,

545
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: we forget they do have that Josh Jones on the

546
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: practice they do. They do, and it's funny because we

547
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of forget about him. But you know, if you

548
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: if you ask about safety. But I asked two or

549
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: three different guys that said, hey, what's your situation on

550
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Like Mickey said, we're taking calls. We're looking for a

551
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: right deal. I said the specific position, and they're like, no,

552
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: not really. So you know if you think, yeah, well

553
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: it's a safety ad, it's a defensive end, Yeah, it's

554
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. Yeah. I mean, I just think the

555
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: looking for the right deal. If somebody were to come

556
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: along that that you know that that someone's having a

557
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: fire sale and they're like saying, listen, we're one and six,

558
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, and you know, we're we're just

559
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna try and recoup a pick or two of a

560
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: guy that we might not be able to resign then

561
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: instead of waiting for the compensatory pick. That that that's

562
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: smart business. But I just kind of got the feeling

563
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: that they're taking calls, but they're not really actively going

564
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: after uh you know, now it sound like that Williams,

565
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle that the Giants got was a guy

566
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: that they were interested in. But the price with that,

567
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: the what the Giants end up giving basically the Giants'

568
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: third round pick at the rate they're going right now,

569
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like a late two. So you know,

570
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you're at with that. That's you know,

571
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: if you if you to make that deal, you we're

572
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna probably have to give up your two or maybe

573
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more to make that that that pick

574
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: for or get that trade for Leonard Williams done, and

575
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: then also have to resign him at the end of

576
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: the season. He's in the same boat as he came

577
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: in the same draft class, first round class as Byron Jones,

578
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: both playing on those rookie the rookie contract, the fifth

579
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: year option. Uh no, so and you never know why,

580
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: but he hadn't been playing. Yeah this year he's seven games,

581
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: no sacks. And we saw the Cowboys part with a

582
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: first round pick last year for Amari But at the

583
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: time they said, that's it's not business they love to

584
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: get into because they know and you know, as a

585
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: personnel guy, Oh, I've sat there and when Jerry Agonies

586
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: not having to pick back to back years then that

587
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: would have been the first time in what ten years

588
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: that they traded a first round pick. You have to

589
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: go back to Roy Williams. Roy Williams, it's the lifeblood

590
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: of your franchise because you're getting well, they're they're pretty

591
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: good at it. They happened, they happen, and it's essentially

592
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: five years of a contract that's fairly cap friendly, you know,

593
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: depending on where you sit. And so yeah, we'll see you.

594
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question. I think you said it,

595
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: Brian with right deal, It's gonna be the right deal,

596
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Bennett was the right deal? Is there in a position

597
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: you would give a first round pick four right now? Mickey?

598
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just any position, any position on for

599
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: this team. Is there any position that you would give

600
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: a first round pick four? If it was a it's

601
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: got to be a it's got to be a Maury

602
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: Cooper type of a player. It's got to be a

603
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: top say twenty five type player on someone's team. I

604
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: don't think so. I see I'm thinking I was thinking, like, uh,

605
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a safety. But then again, every time

606
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I think about a safety, I remember the draft last year,

607
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: and when you want to even use a second round pick.

608
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: And and that's absolutely right, because every one of my safeties,

609
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Adderly and the kid from Washington and all. The only

610
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: safety that was off the board was the kid from

611
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Mississippi State that the Raiders took Abram, And all of

612
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, they had every safety on the book all

613
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: on the board, and that at fifty eight and they

614
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: didn't take They didn't even look at any of them.

615
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: So here I'm saying, oh, yeah, I would give up

616
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: a first round pick for a safety and then and

617
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: they had a chance at fifty eight to grab when

618
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: and they didn't. Theydn't even want to do that. I

619
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: just don't see it realistic. Yeah, And so you're saying

620
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: if you're out there saying, oh, yeah, well they'll trade

621
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: for a safety, Well no, they won't because they didn't

622
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: want one in the first place. They had a chance

623
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: to draft a young safety have some control for four years,

624
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: and they didn't even they didn't even take that. Yeah,

625
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: and didn't think about the sort of somewhat veteran safeties

626
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: they've brought in here over the last several years. They

627
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: didn't even make the team. What if somebody offered you

628
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: a tight end? Is that asking too much or first,

629
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I think they they really liked Blake Jarwin. They just

630
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: he's just not on the field exclusively every snap. Yeah,

631
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: but at some point in time with Wit, at some

632
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: point you're not gonna have Wit, right, Yeah, and you

633
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: need an all purpose Yeah. I don't know if you

634
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: look at Jarwin as the all purpose tight end. I mean,

635
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be schultz Um. You know, we haven't

636
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: seen him do much, but a lot of that has

637
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Speaker 1: a tight end. He was a first round pick with

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Speaker 1: doesn't pan out. Well. Surette Water trade a second then

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Speaker 1: from the defense against Philadelphia. Yeah, you know, get after

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Speaker 1: They made him uncomfortable and too many times he was

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to go six and three

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Speaker 1: need to find a way to play better to affect

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Speaker 1: Detroit and New England would be really nice if they

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Speaker 1: can get They could get Michael Bennett going on this

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Speaker 1: thing and then allow Quinn to continue his role. I

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Speaker 1: I think Lawrence is starting to get a feel again,

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw him how I saw him get struggled,

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Speaker 1: So get a good start here, because again, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with some some stellar quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and you have to be ready to to affect him

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Speaker 1: those guys as well, six and three down the stretches

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Speaker 1: your prediction to try to get you got this thing go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Philly got a tough road win. Yeah on Sunday, They're

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Speaker 1: they're not going away. No, they're not. So got to

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Speaker 1: that's and you know, I'm looking at that. I don't

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Speaker 1: confidence in your shoulders once again. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to remember how much time he missed. He

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just things getting back into the mix

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Speaker 1: for him that probably took a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: We'll think about when that stuff worked. It was when

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