1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are all here. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: We've got Sarah Bradwater, Kyle Olsen, and me Tutor Dixon 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: today to chat about everything that's going on in the country, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: which for us, it's kind of funny because we're watching 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: as Gretchen Whitmer is out on the media circuit hawking 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: her new book, because this would be the perfect timing 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: when you are currently campaign co chair of a campaign 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: that is rapidly failing because your candidate is rapidly failing 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: and failed miserably on the debate stage, and she decided 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: to launch her book. But it made me start thinking 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: about how did we get here with a Gretchen Whitmer 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: where people were like, well, she would be a great president, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: even though in the state of Michigan is a disaster. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: And so we started talking about, like, how did she 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: win these campaigns because it wasn't obviously on her record 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: or she would never win another campaign. So you go 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen, and you know that the Democrats 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: were like shocked by twenty sixteen, so they brought up 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: in these ballot initiatives, and the ballot initiatives are incredibly powerful, 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: and so in Michigan, we passed the marijuana ballot initiative, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: and then marijuana became legalized in the state of Michigan, 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: which is a complication because it's not federally legal, so 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: it's a cash business. And they're, you know, as interesting 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: as we were campaigning learning all of the pitfalls of 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: what happened after legislating or after legalizing marijuana. But I 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: found this article that I wanted to talk to you 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: guys about in the Dispatch because after weed was legalized here, 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: we actually had an employee who was like an amazing guy, 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: one of our best employees, and just like a super 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: hard work He was in his fifties, so he's really young, 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: and he was like he became like a daily user, 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: a daily weed user. And he would go to my 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: dad and be like, man, I've been so sick. I 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: don't know what is going on. I'm so sick. I 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: have to like I have to get in the shower. 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: It's the only time that I stopped feeling sick, and 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: I throw up all the time. And my dad was like, man, 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: this is a this is weird. You need to go 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: to the doctrine, Like the doctor can't figure this out. Well, 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: it turns out, and he ended up dying, and I 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: mean it was really really sad because eventually you can't 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: keep anything down. I mean, it's like you have no nutrition. 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: So he ended up dying, and they connected it back 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to cannabis use, and they said that it was this 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: this syndrome that it's like repeated vomiting. It's like cannabis 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: hyper remesis syndrome. And apparently this is like a really popular, 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: are really common side effect of people. We're using it 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: every day. Before we started seeing legalization, we had like 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: a million users, like daily users, and now it's up 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: to somewhere between seventeen and nineteen million and then forty 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: six million people regularly using. But the interesting part about 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: this article to me is because all of the people, 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: and this is where I go back to Republicans have 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: not been historically good about countering some of the stuff. 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: All of the people who are like, it's safe, it's safe, 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it, they've now been proven wrong. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: But once again, once the something's legal, you're never putting 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that genie back in the bottle. So now you have 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that we have fourteen hundred 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: road desks every year connected to marijuana. But also it's 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: like you have the mental health issues when we talk 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: about mental health all the time. You have an increase, increase, 63 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: increase in depression, you have an increase in marijuana induce 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: psychosis and marijuana. Oh this other sickness with the throwing up, 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: but you've got these all these hospitalizations. Oh. I was 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: also schizophrenia. Young adults, particularly young adults, heavy marijuana use 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: is associated with severe mental health issues. Most persuad pervasively 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: is schizophrenaline, Schizophrennie. I look at this and I think 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: this is not because people wanted to make it easier. 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: They the argument was they keep people out of jail, 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: right if you okay, if you legalize marijuana, you won't 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: have all these people in jail for marijuana offenses. But 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: ultimately it was about getting people elected. 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: I think they also the argument used to be, if 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: you legalize it, less people will do it because there's 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: no joy of like risking it to go do something. 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 2: I remember that being an argument frequently with a marijuana 78 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: And when you see that number, yeah, I mean not 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: that way, definitely not the case. 80 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: Well, and the Midwesterner wrote or published story the other 81 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: day about Michigan is actually the largest consumer of marijuana 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: in the country, even more than California. 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Which is I think that's interesting that you say that, 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: because that was you were talking, I think last week 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: about Michigan being the second most violent state in the country. 86 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: And according to this article, it says there are also 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: social harms. One analysis of re creational dispensaries in Chicago 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: found that crime increased by roughly thirty percent in the 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: surrounding one third mile following the opening of a dispensary. 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: And we have dispensaries everywhere. 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but and it's significant that Michigan is more because 92 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: Michigan is one quarter the size of California. So think 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: about that, Michigan has twenty five percent of the population 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: of California and yet there's more marijuana consumption. It's a 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: bad thing. But in terms of the ballot initiatives, what 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: this shows is that in states like Michigan, there will 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: be there will be public policy created in the name 98 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: of winning elections. And so it's not about is this 99 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: a good public policy for society, it's what can we 100 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: put on the ballot that's going to drive people out 101 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: to vote and improve our chances to win. 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're out there listening, it's now become a 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: political game. I mean, it really has, because I think 104 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: both are like, Okay, what can we come up with 105 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: that will mess with the other side. How can we 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: drive people out to the polls with some sort of 107 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: a law that they think they need. And that's what 108 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: we saw on twenty two with abortion. And so that's 109 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: why I say Gretchen Wimmer, who is now being lauded 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: as this potential presidential candidate, has never run for office. 111 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: On her record, she was telling people that marijuana was 112 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a Democrat thing. And that's the funny thing. The ballad 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: initiative is independent of the people running. And these were 114 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: constitutional amendments. The abortion was constitutional amendment so that people 115 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: could choose, and like we came out and said that, well, 116 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you want abortion, you can 117 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: choose it, and you still don't have to vote for Wimmer. 118 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: But they play it as if you don't vote for us, 119 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: somehow the other candidate can change whatever this constitutional amendment. 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Werek it is and it works, I mean, and it's 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: shockingly it works. And I think the other thing is 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: they lie about it, Like when marijuana was on the ballot. 123 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: It was like, this is not addictive, This is not 124 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: an addictive drug. You will not have a problem with this. 125 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: And now, according to this article it says marijuana, it 126 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: turns out, is an addictive, risky substance. Legalizing its commercial 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: sale causes more people to use it and increases the 128 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: levels of addiction. As a result, it also increases the 129 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: level of harm. And that to me, this is where 130 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and it has generally been I don't know the Republicans 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: have effectively had you would be able to answer this, Kyle, 132 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Have they have They effectively had a ballot initiative that 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: is driven people out in the numbers that we've seen 134 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: marijuana or abortion. And I would say both of those 135 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: had many, many lives attached to them. 136 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: There was one, I think, well, I don't know how 137 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: it drove the two that I think of. There was 138 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: an eminent domain ballot initiative that was very popular that 139 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: would ban or restrict the government, you know, taking your property, 140 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: and it went it dealt with It had its roots 141 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: in New Jersey because there was a in New Jersey 142 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: they took a woman's property to build a casino. And 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: then they didn't build a casino and all of that, 144 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: So that was the roots of that. I'm not sure 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: that something like that would actually drive turnout. The Democrats 146 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: have been very effective at finding these issues because it 147 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: does two things. One it drives turnout, but two it 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: changes the subject. And so you look at twenty twenty two, 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 3: for example, they had this the Abortion Proposal three, the 150 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: Abortion Constitutional Amendment, which basically dropped any restrictions on abortion 151 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: and made any restrictions that were in state law unconstitutional. 152 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: And so as we speak, they Democrats, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, etc. 153 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: Are in court arguing that, you know, whatever restrictions are 154 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: still on the books are unconstitutional. But basically what that 155 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: did is that what it gave Whitmer an opportunity to 156 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: change the subject from her record on COVID, which was 157 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: terrible and what she did to families and the economy 158 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: and all of that, and she was able to change 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: the subject to abortion. 160 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: And I believe that. I mean, Sarah mentioned that she 161 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: doesn't even have our debate in her new book that 162 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: she just dropped. She has her debate with Shooty and 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't have our debate because she had a record 164 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and she couldn't defend it. And we actually brought up 165 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: what she had done in that debate, and she couldn't 166 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: defend it. I mean, she didn't even she didn't even try. 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: She just laughed and oh that's not true. Oh that's 168 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: not true, and had no statement, didn't use her time, 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: didn't defend it at all. And it was because she 170 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't run on it. But she didn't have to run 171 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: on a record because she had this abortion on the ballot. 172 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: And this is why I contend that all these people 173 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: that come out and say, oh, Donald Trump overturned Row 174 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: think knew exactly what was happening, because the league is 175 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: very suspicious. They knew that they were going to have 176 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: a tough time in twenty two. There's all the talk 177 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: of the red wave. They could foresee it was going 178 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: to be a struggle for them, and they don't want 179 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to give a power, so they choose Mississippi, where they 180 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: have one abortion clinic, one abortion clinic in the entire state. 181 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: They only perform abortions up to sixteen weeks, and the 182 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Mississippi legislature or whatever they pass a bill it says 183 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: you can't perform abortions after fifteen weeks, but they do 184 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: have exceptions after fifteen weeks for medical emergency or fetal abnormality. 185 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: No change truly, that is no change in what was 186 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: actually going on in Mississippi because this abortion clinic was 187 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: never actually performing an abortion past sixteen weeks. And so 188 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: those people elevate this, they sue, they elevate this to 189 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ultimately then has to 190 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: look at Roe, which we all knew was suspect. How 191 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: that was decided. They overturn Row, and the Democrats are 192 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: like ready with this little weird ready with this in 193 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: every single state. 194 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: But think about the timing if if the normal process 195 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: would have been followed the because it's a controversial case, 196 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: they tend to announce those at the end of the session, 197 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: and which means that that would have been announced in June. Well, 198 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: June is too late to organize a ballot initiative and 199 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: get the signatures and get it approved and get it 200 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: on the ballot. And so what the leaker afforded them 201 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: was the opportunity to be able to do all of 202 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: that and actually get abortion on the ballot in states 203 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: like Michigan where it was critical to turn out their 204 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: supporters and win. And so you have to wonder was 205 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: that the intent was by leak looking it was giving 206 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: them the months that they needed to organize all of 207 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: this and be able to win in November. 208 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: Well, and remember there was another leak from the Supreme Court, 209 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: which rarely happens this year, also on abortion. So it's 210 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: just suspects me that we've never found the original leaker. 211 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: There was another abortion ruling that came down this last month. Also, 212 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: it magically got added to the website early. I mean, 213 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: they know that this is their ticket, and so they 214 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: want to just give their people heads up on it 215 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: because it's all they have to run on. To your point, Whitmer, 216 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: at the debate, she had nothing else to talk about. 217 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: She openly says she uses comedy, humor and laughter as 218 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: her deflection while she's trying to say that tongue in 219 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: cheek deflection against Republicans that want to come after her 220 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: with absurdities. But those absurdities are actually real facts on 221 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,359 Speaker 2: her record that she's never had to answer for because effectively, 222 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: she ran with abortion, she ran with marijuana more so 223 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: than she did with her actual running mate. I mean, 224 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: Garland Gilcrest through Lieutenant governor, brought nothing to that ticket. 225 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: Just use the issue that she needed of the day 226 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: as her running mate. 227 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: What does she call herself at the beginning of the 228 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: book a smoke show. 229 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: It's not in the beginning of the book, it's part 230 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: way through the group book she says that she's a 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: smoke show governor Midwestern governor, which I find very odd. 232 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: But that makes sense with I mean, that may be 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: why she struggled in the debate, because I think she 234 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: is always kind of this is gonna sound bad, but 235 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: she's the one saying she uses laughter and joking. I 236 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: think she's flirted her way through hard discussions like that, 237 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's what she did in that. I 238 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: think she thought she was cute with Shooty. Obviously she 239 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: thought she was cute, because she said that was her 240 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: reference to her debate with him, that she joked and 241 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: she made light of things. Well, she also didn't have 242 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: a record as governor then, so she could just bs 243 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: her way through that when she was and can't really 244 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: woman on woman, it's not as easy to be so adorable. 245 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think that's just also what we're 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: seeing in a lot of the Democrat us, know though 247 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: they use that personality ploy to make you think what 248 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: they're saying is actually true. You see it with Gavin Newsom, 249 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: we were talking about Pete Buddha Judge earlier today that 250 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: we see the same thing with them. They use their charisma, 251 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: their charm, whatever it is, to just say look over here, 252 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: don't listen to what they're saying. What I'm saying has 253 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: to be sure, because it just sounds great coming out 254 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: of my mouth, even though the facts don't actually back 255 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: any of that up. Let's take a quick commercial break. 256 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast, and everything 257 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: now is a show. I mean, we talk about we 258 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: had a few police officers who were killed in the 259 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: line of duty here in the state of Michigan. And 260 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: one had a funeral on a Friday, and it was 261 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the last Friday in June, and the next day was 262 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: the last day of Pride month. The Attorney General did 263 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: not show up to this man's funeral, but she was 264 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: dancing and singing and singing karaoke in a Pride parade 265 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: the next day there and then they of course put 266 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: it out. They put out all the videos and they're 267 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: bragging about how adorable they are, and you know, I'm 268 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: really just kind of tired of politicians being adorable. I 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: want to know that you're able to do something. I mean, 270 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Jocelyn Benson is out there in a business dress on 271 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: a hot day in a parade, which is in and 272 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: of itself a bizarre choice because you why aren't you 273 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: dressed like the rest of the people at the parade 274 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: And she's singing and laughing and doing carry with me. 275 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you can't do that stuff, 276 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: but when your state is in this state, give me 277 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: a break. 278 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: It used to be the politician you wanted to have 279 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: a beer with, and I think they've taken that to 280 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: like the nth level that they possibly can. 281 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Remember when was it Dana Nessel giving on whiskey shines 282 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: or something at the same pet stage? 283 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it was, and she defended it it they're crazy. 284 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I think that they're But I think now they're 285 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: in a really desperate situation because they see that there 286 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: was no denying what happened with Joe Biden on the 287 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: debate stage. And it's funny to me because those of 288 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: us on our side of the aisle have been like, Okay, yes, 289 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: this confirmed that he is not cognitively there. He is 290 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: in severe cognitative decline. We've been saying this. In fact, 291 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: just the week before you were saying we were lying. 292 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: But now you all see and I've talked to people 293 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: who say, oh, my friends who are Democrats had no 294 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: idea because the media has been so involved in the 295 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: cover up and so involved in the lies. And just 296 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: like we saw with the media saying oh, Russia collusion 297 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: and I'm serious about this, we've seen the media come 298 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: up with these phony stories that were placed by the Democrats. 299 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: And now we fully know because the radio host came 300 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: out and said, well, I got the questions directly from 301 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. We know the collusion when it was 302 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: silencing conservative voices. We know that there are these blogney 303 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: stories that they're putting out. But the scary thing to 304 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: me is the Democrat voters. And I mean, I do 305 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: think that Van Jones for some reason was blind to 306 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: what was really going on, and that potentially is because 307 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: he was close to Biden and didn't want to believe it. 308 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: But the voter who watches CNN and MSNBC was completely 309 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: miffed when they saw him on the debate stage. Well, 310 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and I think again, if you see this, you know 311 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: what it is. There's no denying it. 312 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: Here's an interesting story. This is from the Wall Street 313 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: Journal this week, and this is when I read this, 314 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: I thought to myself, here we go again, here's deadline. 315 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: Russia seeks to boost Trump in twenty twenty four election. 316 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: US intelligence officials say so. These unnamed US intelligence officials 317 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: who probably signed that letter saying that Hunter Biden's laptop 318 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: was what was it disinformation, they're now saying that the 319 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: Russian government has launched a quote whole of government effort 320 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: to influence the outcome of the US presidential election and 321 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: favors Republican candidate Donald Trump in the race. The officials 322 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: didn't name, didn't mention Trump by name, but said that 323 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: Russia's current activity, described as covert social media use and 324 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: other online propaganda efforts, mirrored the twenty twenty and twenty 325 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: sixteen election cycles, when Moscow favored Trump and sought to 326 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: undermine democratic candidates, according to US intelligence agencies. So here 327 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: we go again. Where now it's the Biden administration, the 328 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: Biden intelligence community. I don't like that word, but community 329 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: are now telling us, oh, Russia is pushing Donald Trump, 330 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: which is very strange because it was not until Joe 331 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 3: Biden was president that Russia tacked Ukraine. And so you 332 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: mean to tell me that Donald Trump, who kept Russia 333 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: and these other countries in line, you mean to tell 334 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: me that they want Trump in office again. 335 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense at all. 336 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's more Russia, Russia, Russia all 337 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: over again. 338 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: This is I mean, it is it is crazy because 339 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: they have there, this is the look away from here's 340 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: a bright shiny object to look away from what you're 341 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: actually seeing. And it's they don't trust your lying eyes 342 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: situation again. Because but it's so bizarre that they would 343 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: go back to Russia, like you go back to the 344 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: same well that you've already been at. That's the thing 345 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: that I don't understand. How can you possibly do this 346 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: when you have already talked about what what you see, 347 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: You have already said you think Russia is doing this. So, 348 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that the American people are 349 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: going to buy this this time. I think they're in 350 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: a real pickle. I think that what they've done with 351 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden is unforgivable. I think it's going to 352 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: be unforgivable for a lot of Democrats. And now I 353 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: think it's been interesting as we've watched this past week 354 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: where we've seen the back and forth between Democrats who 355 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: say we've got to get rid of Joe Biden and 356 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: protect the protect democracy, which is so funny because like 357 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: the oh, the irony of that We're going to get 358 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: rid of our nominee after the primary because we have 359 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: to protect the voter. Well, what about the voters who 360 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: voted for Joe Biden? So because if they take him 361 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: off the ballot, now there's no voters choosing who goes on. 362 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think though that they need to take the 363 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: lead the people who you know, their hair's on fire. 364 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they need to take the lead of Joe Biden. 365 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: When he was asked about this, his response was, well, 366 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: if Donald Trump wins, I'll just know that I did 367 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: my best. 368 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And that really fired a lot of those 369 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: msnbcpople because you know, Rachel Maddow was like, I'm going 370 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: to jail now. I watch that's a little bit of 371 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: you have a feminine voice. 372 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: Take him up on his offer. Joe Biden also said, fine, 373 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: challenge me at the convention. So if all these guys 374 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: that are the vulture circling that actually want to take 375 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: him on and don't feel like he's fit. Okay, you 376 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: claim that you have donors all whispering in your ear 377 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, take him on them. 378 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: They know that they can't. I mean, but I honestly 379 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: believe that's why Gretchen Witber released the book because she 380 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: thought it would be okay to do this in this moment. 381 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: And like I said, she's never run before. She's had 382 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: she's had marijuana, she's had abortion, She's never had to 383 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: actually run for office. I mean, you know, during our campage, 384 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: she was never out there. She never had an open 385 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: event like you talk about Newsom. Newsom came to Michigan 386 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: last week, and he had these open events people could 387 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: walk right up to and talk to him. When we 388 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: were campaigning in our own state, her events were close 389 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: to the public. They had to know everybody in advance. 390 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: You couldn't go up and talk to her. She was 391 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: heavily guarded. And you can say all of the bs 392 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: about kidnapping you on, but she has the state police 393 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: protecting her, and she still didn't trust the public to 394 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: get near her. So the truth about her is that 395 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: she does not campaign. And this is where she saw 396 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity. She's like, he's gonna be too cognitively impaired 397 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: to run. I will slip in in the last three 398 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: months and no one won't have to litigate my record 399 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: because they won't have time. And I think that there 400 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: are Democrats that are thinking this is the best case scenario. 401 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: He won't have time. Donald Trump won't have time to 402 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: figure out who his opponent is. Once we get them in, 403 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: they will come off as like this fresh new face, 404 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: and people will come out and droves and vote. The 405 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: problem is, you can't do this. If Republicans tried to 406 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: do this and say, oh, man, man, we looked at 407 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: the polls, they're really bad. Turns out we're gonna have 408 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: to change out our nominee. Can you imagine that? I mean, 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: this story about oh Russia's boosting Trump wouldn't even be close. 410 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: They would be like, this is against democracy. You can't 411 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: you've finished your primary, you can't choose another nominique. What 412 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: if at the what if in October when it was 413 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: obvious that she was hammering me on abortion and we 414 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: were probably going to be in trouble against her on 415 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: this issue, they said, oh, we got to get a 416 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: new candidate. You think Whitmer would have gone with that. No, 417 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: like you can't change your candidate out at the last minute. 418 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: No, And they have a lot of legal, serious legal 419 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: issues too. It's because deadlines are either coming up very 420 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: quickly in various states or they've already passed. And so 421 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 3: because you know, what they're all sort of conveniently ignoring 422 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: is that there's a party issue. But then there is 423 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: a legal state issue when it comes to elections, and 424 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: states have deadlines of when names have to be submitted 425 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: and ballots go to the candidates. I mean, you probably 426 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: remember this, all the proofs that we had to approach. 427 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 428 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole process to an election. It's not 429 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: just a matter of oh, let's wake up in October 430 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: and decide we're going to have a different candidate. Ballots 431 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: are out at that point, so it's it's not just 432 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: a matter of them fighting this out in the middle 433 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: of August. 434 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Think about what r FK Junior is going through right 435 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: now just to get on the ballot in all these places. 436 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: So are they saying that as a Democrat, those rules 437 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: don't apply to them whatsoever? I mean, if I'm RFK Junior, 438 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: I'd be fighting this tooth and nail too. Think he's 439 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: going state by state with ballot access. Are they going 440 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: to I mean, how would they possibly do that. It's 441 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: not to your point. It's not as simple as just saying, actually, 442 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: we're going. 443 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: To swap a name. No. I heard one Democrat who 444 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the Republicans would fight this, and 445 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: they would come out with a legal battle. And the 446 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: problem is that they would probably win. And if they 447 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: win in a couple of key states and our candidate 448 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: can't be on the ballot and a couple of key states, 449 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: then we can't get the electoral votes that we need. Well, yes, 450 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: they would win. I mean states were the primary. He 451 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: is done in those states, and they already know how 452 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: the ballad is set up. I mean probably some states 453 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: have their ballots already printed, or at least they've paid 454 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: for it all. It's all done. It just is outrageous 455 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: to think that we are even entertaining the possibility of 456 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: who could the nominee be. No, we know the nominee. 457 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Everybody's just like yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't know 458 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: what we say on it. We know, and I think 459 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's playing it the smartest because well, you mentioned 460 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: something about what you thought Gavin Newsom was thinking he 461 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: wants it to be Joe Biden, because. 462 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think, yes, he wants it to be 463 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, because then Biden would be term limited. And 464 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: then and then you know, he gets a shot at 465 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. If he's replaced and Kamala becomes the candidate, 466 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: she theoretically would have eight years, which you know then 467 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: really sort of does not line up with what Newsom wants. 468 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: But what's interesting, I think there's a very interesting sort 469 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: of subplot that's going on. You look at Newsome, He's 470 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: going around the country. He came to Michigan, he was 471 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. He's going around and he's talking basically exclusively 472 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: about Joe Biden, why he is the best candidate, you know, 473 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. Gretchen Whitmer right now is running 474 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: around of the country talking about herself, talking about her 475 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: book and all of these you know, silly stories that 476 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: she's got and why she should be relatable. She's out 477 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 3: and I just saw again this week she said, we 478 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: need to help Joe Biden and Kamala Harris give to 479 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: my back. She includes the link to her pack. So 480 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: she is out promoting herself and Newsom is out promoting 481 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: their candidate. 482 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 2: Well, and think when she's even if you watch her 483 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 2: on this media tour, when she's even asked a question 484 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: about Joe Biden or current events. I mean, you're going 485 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: on national TV. Are you not expecting them? I know 486 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: you're promoting your book, but are you not expecting them 487 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: to ask about maybe what's going on in the country 488 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: right now? While literally every day. 489 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I always love how she's like, oh, 490 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: how could you ask me that? Oh, we're not going there? 491 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: And she doesn't even have a plan for it. I mean, 492 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: that is the funny thing to me. Her comms team 493 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: has done a lot of smoke and mirrors. They do 494 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that is scripted. If you watch 495 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: anything that she does, she's reading everything. So all these 496 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: videos that look like a selfie video, you can watch 497 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: her eyes. She's reading and she's not doing a good 498 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: a convincing job of it. So when she goes out 499 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: and she sits with people and they ask her these questions. 500 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: They asked her, well, would you be vice president to 501 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: Kamal Harris, and she said, you know, I'm I'm not 502 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: even going to go there. I'm not to your point earlier, Kyle. 503 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: The answer is, why would I think about that? Joe Biden. 504 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: I've made it clear Joe Biden is the nominee. He 505 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: is going to be president. But instead she gets swirled 506 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: around and finally she finally admits, I'll never say never. 507 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: She didn't. Yes, you would think somebody like that. If 508 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: you're the co chair of the Biden campaign, you would 509 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: think that you're smart enough and experienced enough that if 510 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: you're asked a question, a hypothetical, you would just immediately 511 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: shut it down and say, Joe Biden is our candidate, 512 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: He's the best one. Blah blah blah. Even if you 513 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: don't believe it, that's what you say. But her response 514 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: was never say never. I'm not angling for that. 515 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Well, I remember Kamala doing the same thing when they 516 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: asked her, And to me, she and Kamala are very similar. 517 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: They're terrible public speakers. They suffer from not being able 518 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: to get their thoughts together. She gets caught up in 519 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: weird stories anecdotes. Her book is not a book of 520 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: stories of being governor. Her book is a book of 521 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: look at me, how cute I am? If you look 522 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: at her book. I mean she talks about throwing up 523 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: on her principal shoes at sixteen years old because she 524 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: was dead drunk in high school. And we're supposed to 525 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: be like, what an awesome role model for our kids. 526 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: But she's a talk about girl power. You know. She 527 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: also reveals she. 528 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Has tattoos too, in case you wanted to know. 529 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: That also awesome. That's fantastic, So glad I know. Does 530 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: she reveal how much botox she's gotten? Just curious about that. 531 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 532 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's just everything about it is 533 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: just creating an identity that has nothing to do with governing. 534 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's what makes me mad. If you're not going 535 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: to talk about what governing is to you, well, then 536 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: why are you going out and promoting this as saying 537 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: that you want to be president? Because I see the 538 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: fights that I had, This is what I had to 539 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: do as a woman, This is how tough it was 540 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: for me. But it has nothing to do with successes. 541 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: We were able to fix the roads. No, we're going 542 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: to guess what. We're six years in, folks, and we're 543 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: still saying we're going to fix the roads. The funny 544 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: thing to me is that everybody promotes this is this 545 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: is the governor's tagline is We're going to fix the 546 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: damn roads. Six years in people the roads are we 547 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: are what the. 548 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: Worst in the nation or where we have some of 549 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: the worst, And according to the data from her own administration, 550 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: we are certifiably worse. We have more roads in poor 551 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: condition than when she started. 552 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: So do we let the media do this with another candidate? 553 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: And it could be very easily done with a whitmer 554 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: who is not in cognitive decline but is not capable 555 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: of governing in any way, but the media will cover it. 556 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I saw what's her name, Rachel Maddow the other day 557 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: who was like, Oh, she's going to be something great. 558 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: We're going to see her again, And I think, how 559 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: dare you come to this state before you say that? 560 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: And I look back on the journalistic malpractice of our campaign, 561 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: and I honestly do blame the media for what happened 562 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: in the state because they do not report on the 563 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: fact that we've lost our fortune five hundred companies. They 564 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: do not report on the fact that she crushed three 565 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: thousand restaurants they do not report on the fact that 566 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: we lost a massive amount of jobs. She came out 567 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: during our campaign and she said, I've brought thirty thousand 568 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: automotive jobs, and I'm announcing thirty thousand automotive jobs in 569 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. People believed that we had thirty 570 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: thousand new jobs. We'd actually lost twenty five thousand jobs. 571 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: And she had projected, based on the money she was 572 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: giving them, that she was going to get these jobs 573 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: and wasn't one of these Several of these projects just canceled. 574 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's three that she's really sort of touted. 575 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: Goshen which is the Chinese battery plant, Cattle which is 576 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: the Chinese battery plant, and then a paper mill in 577 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: the Upper Peninsula, which is a Swedish company. And Goshen 578 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: is sort of on the rocks. Cattle, they have severely 579 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: restricted or sort of you know, withdrawn what they are 580 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: planning to do. They it's you know, decreasing in size 581 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 3: and which then means they have pulled back basically over 582 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: two thirds of the taxpayer dollars that we're going to 583 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 3: go to that project. And then it was reported this 584 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: week that this paper mill that she was touting during 585 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: the campaign. They've now canceled that expansion and the state 586 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: took the money back. So her whole economic strategy is 587 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: just a total disaster. But you know, she's in New York, 588 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: she's going to Seattle, she's going to Martha's vineyard, she's 589 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: going to San Francisco to talk about you know, to 590 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: try to claim to try to act like I should 591 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: say that she has a personality. But you know, we 592 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: I know, we talk about her a lot, and for 593 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: good reason. I just am very skeptical. I mean, let 594 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: me preface this by saying, if John Fetterman can win, yeah, 595 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: especially in the condition that he was in in twenty twenty. 596 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: Two and also had a horrible debate. 597 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: They can elect anybody. So let me just say that. 598 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: But if you take her at face value, if the 599 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: media is honest, which I know they're not, but if 600 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: they do their job, she should not have a prayer 601 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: because she has no personality. I don't believe she has 602 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: any principles. I don't think she has any sort of vision, 603 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: which is why you see the type of book that 604 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: she put out. It's not about you know, this is 605 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: where America should go. It's just you know, recipes and silly, yeah, 606 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: silly kind of stuff. And so I just I just 607 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 3: don't think she's really going anywhere because once she is 608 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: actually scrutinized, and look what happened when that with that 609 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: the story in Politico and in the damage control that 610 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: she you know, she had to scramble to say no, 611 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: I really believe that Joe Biden can win Michigan. Which 612 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: is interesting because then the reporting on Tuesday was that 613 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: three US senators acknowledged and one said it publicly, no, 614 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Biden can win. And so I 615 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: mean she was maybe we should give her credit that 616 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: she was sort of you know, ahead of the curve, 617 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: but the fact that she was not willing to own 618 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: that and instead attempted to do damage control shows that, 619 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, she's she just doesn't have any principles or visions. 620 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: See, the senators are not a threat to him, because 621 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: the senators can come out and say, okay, yes I 622 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: said this because I'm concerned. I'm concerned about the I'm 623 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: concerned about the two branches of Congress. Like I'm concerned 624 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: that we're going to have we're going to lose the House, 625 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: We're going to lose the Senate. The difference with her 626 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: is everybody knew she was trying to take the job. 627 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: She did it for selfish reason. The rest of them 628 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: are concerned about a ticket. And we talked about this 629 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: in the opposite I think the other day it was 630 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 2: it was Bennett from Colorado that came out in public 631 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: said hey, you know, I got caught, and then privately 632 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 2: I said this, but I guess I'll say it publicly now, 633 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: you know what. I respect him for that he at 634 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: least had the cojones to go out and own what 635 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: he said. Whitmer never does. She says these things behind 636 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: closed doors and she won't actually own it. When you 637 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: talk about who's handling it the best, I mean, Gavin 638 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: Newsom is handling it the best. He's probably lying through 639 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: his teeth about everything. He's probably yeah, not probably actually see, 640 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm swooned by him as well. 641 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, stop fangirling. Gosh, she can get 642 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: voted off the island. I mean, it's in Whitmer's best 643 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: interest though, to do what Newsom's doing, because if he 644 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: doesn't win, if Biden doesn't win, what's she gonna do. 645 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: She's gonna have to stay in Michigan and actually live 646 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 1: out her record. Where is she? I mean, she could 647 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: take over for transportation secretary? She had some win well yeah, 648 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: oh yeah Biden does they win? Yeah? What does she do? 649 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: She? 650 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: What does she do? It was in runs Blue Cross 651 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: Blue Shield, like, Yeah, that's the rumor, I mean, And 652 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: that's the That's the thing about her. Whole story is 653 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: such a phony, baloney story. She never built anything. She 654 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: hasn't in that, And I think she's just always I 655 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: really do think that she's always gotten by on this cutesy, 656 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: funny thing which she is coming from her You know, 657 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: this is not me saying this. 658 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: This, this is coming from her books. She said this 659 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: in her book about herself. 660 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: Yes, she believes that that has gotten her to this point. 661 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: And the problem with that is that it only gets 662 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you so far. And you make a great point, Kyle, 663 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: is that she if you test her, she has no convictions. 664 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: There is nothing that is she feels strongly about, which 665 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: is why she can't talk about Palestine or Israel because 666 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: she doesn't know where she stands on that. She doesn't 667 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: know where she stands on climate change. She doesn't None 668 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: of these are her feelings. She toes the party line. 669 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: She is just a walking talking point. That is what 670 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: you get when you get Kretchen Whitmer. But when you 671 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: try to dig deep, I mean, when people say I'm 672 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: not a politician, it's because they're talking about people like 673 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: that who genuinely have lost so much connection with the 674 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: people because they've got I think it's like the Peter principle. 675 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: You get promoted even though you're not meant to be promoted, 676 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: and then you get to the point where you don't 677 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: know who you are anymore. And it's hard to know 678 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: who Gretchen Wimmer is because I don't think Gretchen Witmer 679 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: knows who she is. 680 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: We also agree, well, obviously it'll be interesting to watch 681 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: as we see what goes on in the next in 682 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 4: the coming days, obviously we're going to hear next week 683 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: about the vice presidential pick. 684 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: On our side of the aisle, we'll see what Donald 685 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: Trump says and does. I thought it was interesting when 686 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: I saw him at the Durrau rally and he's kind 687 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: of teasing Marco Rubio, which I think that anybody that 688 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: he has on the list right now is going to 689 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: be a good pick for him. The vice president doesn't 690 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: ultimately determine what's going to happen in the race. Everybody's like, 691 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: who's it going to be? We all know that Donald 692 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: Trump is the person everybody's watching. So I think he 693 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: feels confident. And I think it's like so Donald Trump 694 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, I don't need to 695 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: talk about this right now, because I'm just gonna let 696 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: you keep talking about Biden. Let you let this media 697 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: narrative continue and watch them implode. Because I feel like 698 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: debate night was very much like Election Night at twenty sixteen. 699 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: The people were like, although a little bit different from 700 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: the standpoint of they knew they were busted. They knew 701 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: that they had hidden this. In twenty sixteen, I think 702 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: they genuinely thought they controlled the people, Like the media 703 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: felt so powerful. They were like, we told you who 704 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: to vote for. How could you have gone against us? 705 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: We told you to vote for Hillary and you went 706 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: against what we said. It's impossible. They were appalled that 707 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: they had been like overthrown in a way on debate night, 708 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: I think that they were appalled that they were caught. 709 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: They were humiliated. Yes, yes, yes, And those who say 710 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: they were defending democracy, what a joke. What a joke. 711 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, who is running the country. It is 712 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: unelected bureaucrats. And that to me is the real That 713 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: is the most disgusting part of hearing democracy come out 714 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: of their mouths. And I'm like, I don't ever want 715 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: that word in your mouth again. Just stop it. Stop 716 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: ever saying that you care about democracy when you know 717 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: this man has not been running our country. Unelected bureaucrats. 718 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: No one knows, no one knows what incentives they're getting. 719 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: They don't have any oversight. You can't have oversight over 720 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: these people. I mean, that's the beauty of our elected officials. 721 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: Not only do they get chosen by the people, but 722 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: there's oversight. You know who it is. You get to watch. 723 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: There are people who if they get step out of line, 724 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: can do something about it. Who is running the country 725 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 1: they robusted that night. Now we go into this next 726 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: week seeing what the Republicans are going to talk about. 727 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: We've seen the platform, we know that there have been 728 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: complaints about the platform. We'll have to get in to 729 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: you and next week we'll get into that. As we 730 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: see how things play out. We find out that the 731 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: vice presidential nominee, we will talk about how the convention's going, 732 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: what is happening with that platform, and how people on 733 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment side feel about it because I know 734 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: they feel left out, and how people on the Life 735 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: side feel about it because I know they feel left out, 736 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: and what does that mean for Republicans and their identity 737 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: going forward. But we'll get into that stuff next week. 738 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys sticking around with us for this 739 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: group podcast with Kyle Olsen, Sarah Broadwater, and Tutor Dixon. 740 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: This is the Tutor Dixon Podcast and you can find 741 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: it at Tutor dixonpodcast dot com or at the iHeartRadio app, 742 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and make 743 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: sure you join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 744 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Have a blessed day.