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It's tune in Studios at 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: south By Southwest. Alright, this is Michael Rappaport. I'm in 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the I mean I'm in the hut. I'm in the hut. 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Here Happy Hour with Michael Rapport live from south By 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Southwest Studios with Gimnetti, G. Moody and special guest here 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: the Hawk, La Troy Hawkins. Have you ever met another 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: guy named LaTroy? No, I haven't like that name, not 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: at all. That's a nice name, LaTroy. My mom want 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the name miya Yaki Dupri, but my aunt was like, no, 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, we're not going there. Miya Ya Dupri. 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. Yeah, Troy is nice, it's 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: original and storm I like that. So, La Troy Hawkins 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: played twenty You played twenty one years years in professional 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: baseball the major leagues. You played twenty five years. You 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: look like your like you look like your thirty two. 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Well you know what they say, good black don't cry, 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: don't cry. Yeah, but it's there's there's limits to it. 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: I mean, G. Moody's black as cracked and ship just playing. No, 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: how old are you? Mane? So you play? So how 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: does that work? You were playing when you were eight 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: team professional baseball. I drafted out of high school, played 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: four years in the mind and twenty one seasons in 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: the big leagues. Twenty one years in professional baseball. That's something, man, 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: that's a feat that's incredible. Man. I mean, that's like, 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: that's like a dream come true. Right, Baseball we have longevity. 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, football, basketball at different but baseball there's some 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: longevity to it. Why do you think that is? Because 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: it's not as physically taxing. It's definitely not a physically 48 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: taxing like you're running in a car collision every time 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: you're you're on the field, and basketball you running jump 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: into baseball, you know, you're throwing, fielding the bellball, hitting 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the baseball, things like that. So and we play a 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: lot more and it's not as strings on our body. 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: It easier for us. Don't you think that some of 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: the some of the athletes quote unquote athletes in baseball 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: aren't really athletes. I mean, of course you can hit 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a ball, but like when average fan looks at baseball players, wow, 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: you know I can You know, I can do what 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Dustin Pejory does. You know he's only five ft eight. 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: You know I could do what I can do? What 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Prince Fielder. Does you know you look at Prince he's 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: a big, old, short guy. When you look at a 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: football player of basketball player, you're like, I know I 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: can't run the court like a gazelle at sixteen, right, 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I know I can't run around And you know, SAT 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: guys and and I think fans were baseball players because 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: we look like, you know, ordinary people. That's a good point, 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: all right, So I gotta get into this with you. Obviously, 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm not the first person to ask you. 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: This is happened a few days ago. Adam Laroche walked 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: away from thirteen and a half. He didn't need it. 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: You don't need it now, you don't need it out. 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: So what do you know about this story that hasn't 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: already been reported? What do you think about this whole 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: idea of kids being allowed to be a part of 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: the team. Is there a limit? What was your experience 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: with it? You played twenty one years in the Major 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: League Baseball. You played for like ninety six teams, right, 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: how many teams do you play for? So what did 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: you see about this, this whole thing. I'm sure it's 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: probably changed the different teams. What's your opinion? On this, 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: give me the inside scoop on. Every team has their 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: own their own rules about having people in the clubhouse, 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and most of the time each team says that you 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: have can have your your closest family member, your son, father, brother, 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: that's it. Cousins and everybody else is not allowed in 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. But with Colorado, you're able to have your 87 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: family in the clubhouse until four thirty once the team 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: went out to stretch. Everybody's out of the clubhouse. Can't 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: come in the clubhouse until after the game. At no 90 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: point in time. Why twenty one years that we have 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: somebody that had a kid in the clubhouse every day. 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: My thing is, the kid has to go to school sometime, right, 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: Gotta be able to read and write. Gotta be But 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: with that situation, and and and with with the White Sox, 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: I like to say that there had to be somebody 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse that complain, a player that complained, that 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: went to Kim Williams and made ki Ken Williams do 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: what he did. Now, when the roach didn't walk away quietly, 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: now you have a problem because now the players he 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: kN Williams can't throw the players the under the bus. 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: So you gotta take the heat from the from the media. 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: But his initially initial reaction wasn't that the kid couldn't 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: come in the clubhouse. His initi waxon wasn't let's scale 104 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: it back a little bit. And l Roach got upset 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: about that because he said during his negotiations with them 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: the year before that that was part of his contract, 107 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: a verbal contract that his son can stay in the clubhouse. Well, 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: we're in America. Can you take your kids to school 109 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: to work with you every day? My you know, I 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's number one. We gotta get shorty. 111 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: He's gotta make sure he knows his basics, the reading 112 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: and writing, the arithmetic. Number two, I agree, where where 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: can you? And I don't think and I'm not disrespecting 114 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: this this guy, I don't know him at all, and 115 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, and it's hard and everybody has there 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: is no there is no playbook for it. But I 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: don't see how that's a beneficial lifestyle to like that 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: you let your son be around kids. Sometimes he shouldn't 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: be in the like whose choice? Whose idea was that? 120 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: Anyway to be in the baseball in the clubhouse every 121 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: single day? Well, I can tell you, Like the baseball 122 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: athletes mindset is he wants his kid around him as 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: much as possible because obviously, you know, we're not home 124 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot. We're not home a lot. So as he 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: can have his son around as much as possible. But 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: there's I think there's a limit to it too much. 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: And the people who complain, they threw the rock and 128 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: then they set on their hands. Nobody's gonna say, well, 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: it was us who complain. But now Kenny Willams has 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a job to do, and Kenny Williams, I know Kenny personally, 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: Kenny ain't a joke. After the roach made a stink, 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: he's all right, you want to be like that. He 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: can't come to come a clubhouse at all now, but 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I try to give you a chance. And the roach 135 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: took his kid and and now now I feel like 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: it's like he proved the point. But now his son, 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: now his son is gonna be mad at his father 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be like now you gotta go back 139 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: to school and you ain't never gonna be on a 140 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: professional baseball field against shorty. So so so like the 141 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: whole thing, I think the whole thing got screwed up. 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: It got screwed up. But I have to command with 143 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: the roads because I always said, if you don't stand 144 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: for something, you'll fall from anything. And he's still what 145 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: he believed then that his son should be in the 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: clubhouse every day with him, and didn't go us away. 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: He walked away from thirteen million, all thirteen and a half. 148 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's not let's not forget that the and a half 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: and a half. Now I was told, and you tell 150 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: me if it's just true or not. On your voicemail, 151 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: it says, if you're calling about money, hang up. What's 152 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: what's your voicemail? Say my voicemail? Saystroy Hawkins. If you're 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: calling the borrow money, hang up? If not, leave him 154 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: number in a detailed message and I'll get back to you. 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: All right, So I don't have your number, but I'm 156 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: saying you twenty one years Okay, I'm not gonna call, 157 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: and I just wants now I'm not. I'm not saying 158 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: next time I see if I if I haven't, if 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: things are going my way, I'll give it to you. 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Check it out. Can I get retired now? Bro? I'm 161 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: on a budget. Bro, We're not on a budget. A 162 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: pension man in baseball. I can't start drawing drawing my 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: pitch until forty five. I'm forty three, but I'm gonna 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: start drawing it when I get to be about fifty three. 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: So I can probably get about a hunt and eight 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: year in a year. So so I gotta come see. 167 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: I gotta come seeing a few years. All right, now, 168 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. We were talking earlier 169 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: about basketball. Uh. We were talking about the comparisons of 170 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: Steph Curry uh and Michael Jordan's And first of all, 171 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: what is your opinion about have you ever seen anything 172 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: like because I know you're a basketball fan. I know 173 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: you're a college dude. Uh, you love you love the 174 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: tournament all time, but this Michael Jordan's uh, Steph Curry, 175 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, like, have you ever seen anything like what 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is doing this year? And then the last 177 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: few years? But I mean this year, it's like last 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: year he was incredible and he seemed to have gotten 179 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: better this year. I don't think I've ever seen no, 180 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I haven't. I mean, his shooting proficiency is off the charts, 181 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: and I tell people it's like his dad could shoot 182 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the rock. His dad can shoot his dad wasn't a star, 183 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: but he was a six man in a year, a 184 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, and he'd come off to mention he 185 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: was instant offense. But what he does, I mean, he 186 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: makes the game look like a video game. I mean, 187 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if that comes from you know, 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the hard work he puts in the gym, or just 189 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, his every his creativity that he has out there. 190 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: The shots did he make? Um, you know, nothing is, 191 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: nothing is simple. Everything is you know, he's twisting and turning, 192 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: and you know he's not the biggest guy, so he 193 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: has to do something specially to get a shot off, 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: whether it's the quick release, quick release with the high 195 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: art for he's falling his face in a way right hand. 196 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: He can kill you in so many different ways in it. 197 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: But I always say I always thought Ali Irison, man, 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: if he he had a jump shot and he didn't 199 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: take a big if he didn't take a beating like 200 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: they beat him to death, they did stuff like that, 201 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would make it. The game 202 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: now has changed just a little bit because you know, 203 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: everybody's so caught on scoring points. Nobody walk up to him, 204 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: me like I'm falling you to the bathroom the night. Bro, 205 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna score. Nobody's not gonna put an elbow 206 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: in his throat. And we're like, okay, dude, enough of that. 207 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: But don't you think, but don't you think they're trying 208 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: to do it. I mean it's like dudes, dudes are 209 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: getting embarrassed. I mean, I got the rule. Now he's 210 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: locked in on the Jordan rule. Now you can't do it. 211 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: You can't do what. You can't do it now. I 212 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: don't know, he's locked face of the league. Yeah, but 213 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna let that happen. Oh I hear that. Listen, somebody, 214 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll take a suspension. You see Matt Barnes chase the 215 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: guy into the locker room the other night, just for 216 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: for I don't know what whole work he's doing. Matt 217 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Barnes is a couple of sounds. Is short of a pick. 218 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I agree. I don't know, you're you're picking the wrong 219 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: guy to do that with. Like you already know, he's 220 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: about about he's about about it. Yeah he is. Um 221 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: don't mess with his wife, his ex wife. I don't 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: want anything to do with him. I like Matt Barnes 223 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and and he's got the kind of eyes when you 224 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: meet him you go, oh, this is guy's a little wacky. 225 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: You can see it in his eyes. Now, you see 226 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: it when you're you can tell on TV. But when 227 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: you meet him, you're like, I don't want no problems 228 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah. The dead stair, Yeah, the dead stair. 229 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: The chess. She's got the chesshire cat dead stair. Look, 230 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: it's a very uncommon, look, very unnervous. Yeah, it's very unervous, 231 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: all right. But I brought up I brought up the 232 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Steph Curry thing because one of your many accomplishments, besides 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: three strikeouts, you pitched to Michael Jordan's. So talk to 234 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: me about what that was like, where that happened, what 235 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: that meant to you, what what the lead up to 236 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: it was, and the excitement and and and you know, 237 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something you'll be able to tell your grandkids, 238 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: grandkids when they're asking you for money. Well, I biskins 239 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Actually the year he played baseball, he played 240 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: in the Sudden League. He was in Birmingham, and I 241 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: was pitching with the Nashville Express that way one at 242 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: the time, maybe one. And I grew up right outside 243 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Chicago and Gary, Indiana. So I was a huge Jordan 244 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: fan and we were on a road trip to Birmingham 245 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: to play against him and I was out early running 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: outside the stadium and I hear this guy. I said, 247 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: this guy bumping Sweet Sadie by R Kelly when R. 248 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Kelly CD came out and it's about two fifteen, and 249 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be here 250 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to Mark at the same time to get an autograph. 251 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: And next day, like clockwork, he was there as Mr Jordan. 252 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Can I get autograph from He was like no, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: It's from my mom. Anyway, brother, It's okay, And he 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: was like, now, I'm just joking. So we're you know, 255 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: we played him probably about ten times while I was 256 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: in Double A and got to know him, hung out 257 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: with him in his house doing the NBA Finals. Um, 258 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, talk trash to him, picked him off first base, 259 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: struck him out a couple of times. Are you serious? Yeah? 260 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he knows you. He knows you, oh 261 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: Jordan's he knows me so so so. But when you're 262 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: up there, you're growing up a baseball for a basketball fan, 263 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: and it's Michael Jordan, and everybody's away. Like, when he's 264 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: standing in front of you, is there any part of 265 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: you who's like, yo, I'm gonna just like, are you 266 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: just like? Are you like I want to? I want to? 267 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I want to I want to strike him out? Is 268 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: there any compassion in you? There was no compassion. But 269 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: my mom told him, told me to let him get 270 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: a hit. And I told him, now, I said, my 271 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: mom told me to tell you some fastball so you 272 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: can get a hit. So I'm gonna do I'm gonna 273 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: do that for you. He couldn't hit him, though, he 274 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: couldn't hit him. So what do you think? What do 275 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: you think? Like if if Michael Jordan had dedicated his 276 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: life without doubt, he would have been a big leaguer 277 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: for sure. For sure, he would have been a big 278 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: leaguer he had started off. People don't understand he started 279 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: off at double Way, which is one of the hardest 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: leagues to play in Double Way as for guys that 281 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: have played in college or played four years already in 282 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: professional baseball, so it's a harder jump. It's an easier 283 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: jump to go from Double Way to the big leagues 284 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: than from trip away to the big leagues, and he 285 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: started off in double way, where we had been been 286 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: in professional ball three years already, so we had a 287 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: head start. He had two old two maybe, and he 288 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: started off terrible. So as the season went on, he 289 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: got better. He learned better routes to the ball. He started, 290 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, hitting the ball and more making more solid contact. 291 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: Um still in basis and he was I mean, his 292 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: athletic isn't on a baseball on a basketball court. Transit 293 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: it to the baseball. It did, and it helped him, 294 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: but he didn't have enough time. And I think there 295 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: was so much pressure in the eyeballs on him. I mean, 296 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: obviously nobody in uh in minor league baseball is gonna 297 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: have that. I think he just did it just to 298 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: get his get away from baseball for a year. Because 299 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: the day at the time I watched the NBA Finals 300 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: with him. I'll tell you what, I've been around a 301 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of guys, but not many like Jordan talk trash trash. 302 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: He was just saying, like only reading they went in 303 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the championship because I'm not playing. I'm like, yeah, that 304 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: could be true. But was he amped up like he's 305 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: like he was excited about it, not just no. He's like, yeah, 306 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and using those it's only winning cause I ain't playing. 307 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: That's all right. When I get back, I'm gonna win 308 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: three more, like he said, three more? Who won the 309 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: year he didn't play with Houston won it twice and 310 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: he said, the only reason they want because he wasn't playing, 311 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: And he was dead serious and it was me, a 312 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: couple of my teammates, him and Chris Chelios and a 313 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: couple of his teammates and so he so so in 314 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: general that time that he spent with him, he was cool, 315 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: like he was like the best, really the best, the 316 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: best he was. He was like, you know, grew up 317 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: my idol. I was a huge Jordan fast still am. 318 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I signed with the Yankees and oh eight, and I 319 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: had to go there and take a physical and I 320 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: end up having to spend a night uh to take 321 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the physical again the next day and the security guy 322 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: that for the Yankees he was walking past Barneys. I 323 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: saw Jordan walking Barney. I was like, really, this was 324 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: fourteen years since the last time I've seen him. So 325 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: I walked into the Barneys and he was at the 326 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: counter waiting for my return. I said, m J, So 327 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: what's up? Man, So you remember me? 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This is an amazing offer and 355 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: it will only be from my listeners. Trust me. Me 356 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: and Jim Nettie are loving the Cagurator and you will too. 357 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Runs the roster of teams you played for in the 358 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Major League base Major League Baseball? Do you know them all? 359 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Off the top of your head? Break it the okay, 360 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: go ahead, Minnesota, Chicago Clubs, Okay, San Francisco Giants, Baltimore, Oh, Baltimore. 361 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: Then I got traded to the Rockies, then the Yankees, 362 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: and I got traded to Houston, and I went to Milwaukee. 363 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Then I went to um Anaheim, and then I went 364 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: to the Mets. Yankees, Mets, you think. Then I went 365 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to me, I want to play who both Now? I 366 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: went to uh Denver, Colorado again and I got traded 367 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: at the brake last year with Troy to a Whiskey 368 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: to Toronto. So I finished my my career in Toronto. 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Now playing for the Mets, playing for the Yankees. What's 370 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: the difference. Is there a difference in the by far? 371 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, the difference being being a Yankee? It is. 372 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: It's it's a cult. You feel it when you're there 373 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: on TV. You're not looking at MLB Network or ESPN. 374 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: You're watching nothing but the Yes Network. So your brain 375 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: watched Yankee everything been with the Yankees. We didn't hang 376 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: out together, but he came to the ballpark and went home. 377 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: The whole team, thereybody did their own things. The only 378 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: guess that time I got together was Jeter and Posada 379 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: everybody else. I mean, it was you want your own 380 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: separate way. We're being on the mess side. It was 381 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: more like a family atmosphere because we all hung out together. 382 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: Didn't have all the big stars that they had on 383 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees side, but it was a little bit more 384 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: relaxed and the fans were fans were awesome also, but 385 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: you can just tell the difference. I mean, you get 386 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: to watch MLB network ESPN. You're not brain washed with 387 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: the Yes network. Everything about the Yes Network And what 388 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: is it like playing on the same team. Uh that 389 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: he was still in his in his in his in 390 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: his heyday with with a star as big as Jerick 391 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter who used the man. Jeter is the man 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: aside from Leonardo DiCaprio. He's probably he's a top three 393 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: stickman of all time across across the board and outside 394 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: of sports Hollywood, and I think just as as a cocksman, 395 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Jeter is the guy they did like, no, when did 396 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: you did you? Did you see? Could you feel like that? 397 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Was that? Around? Like? What were the group He's like 398 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: with Derek Jeter around like what did you say? You 399 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: the only team that when we checked into a hotel, 400 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: we went through the kitchen. Every other team I play with, 401 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: when you check in the hotel, they put tables out front. 402 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: You walked through the front. With the Yankees, we went 403 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: through the kid like every time we went through the kitchen. 404 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Use the service televantors the hole does it with the 405 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: whole team. It was like traveling with a rock band. 406 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: It was it was. It was something to get used 407 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: to because, you know, playing with other teams, it's not 408 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: like that. Being in the Yankees. Everything is the spotlight. 409 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: Three security guards sitting down in the hotel lobby. You know, 410 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: if you lead a hotel, you gotta tell them where 411 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: you're going. I mean it was it was like it 412 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: was like playing for Cuba. You know, you don't defects, okay, 413 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: and then and then and then all right, and all 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: the teams you played for who had the best private plane, 415 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: like who had the best amenities As a team. We 416 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: pretty much fly private delta. But they just started a 417 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: whole plane. So it's nothing special about the plane. But 418 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: is it so? But who sits in first class? The 419 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: coaches and stuff? Sitting first class? Coach, it's the first class. No, 420 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to stuff like that, you're sitting back 421 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: with the rest of us. But so you guys are 422 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: all in like the regular part of it, we're sitting 423 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: in the coach. Jesus a good life. Many in baseball year, 424 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: How tall are you? Well? I always got my own seat, 425 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: mon chair, I always said in an exit row. I'm 426 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: just saying, no, hawk, I mean I thought today you 427 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: had you good living the good life over here. Hey, 428 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: it was, it was good. I believe it was good. 429 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: I believe was On our planes, you can be on 430 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: your computer, you can be on your cell phone, and 431 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: you can be smoking a cigar, you know, anything you want. 432 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: When it's time to take off, there's no rule, and 433 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: let you smoke a cigar. Oh wow, al right, okay, 434 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: all right, so let manage the question the culture of baseball. 435 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: You just retired. You came into the league twenty one 436 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: years ago. League Baseball, okay, quarter sent you that beautiful man. 437 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about like Goose Gossage, 438 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: the other goose go ahead breaking Goose Gotage was complaining 439 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: about how the new players, you know, they don't respect 440 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the game. Oh they're flipping the bats and stuff like that. 441 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: So we wanted to ask, what are the unwritten rules? 442 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Is that a bad thing? Like you're throwing it at me, 443 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: You're throwing hundred miles an hour. I managed to hit 444 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: it over the wall. I'm gonna do the moon walk 445 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: to first base and I hit it. Baseball isn't like football, 446 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: where you can be down by forty runs and you 447 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: scored I mean forty points. You scored touchdown and you 448 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: do your little name or whatever it is. It's not 449 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: like that. It's more of a not a gentleman's game, 450 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: but there's there's a respect for your opponent. I'm good 451 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: with changing other times, good with that. But my question 452 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: is what does it stop? Because if you're doing it 453 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: to me and I do it to you and you 454 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: might not not like it as much, that's gonna start 455 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: a brawl. And then you know guys getting hurt, Guy's 456 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: getting thrown at, guy's fighting getting hurt, and then you 457 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: got all this money sitting on the on the on 458 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: the disabled list. So there's more to it. But you know, 459 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: if you're the whole run in the first inning, run 460 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: the basis like you did it before. Run the basis 461 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: like you did it before. Because what if you get 462 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: a home run in the bottom of the ninth then 463 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: and walk off home run, celebrate, that is fine with me. 464 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: You can do like Prince Fielder did a couple a 465 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: few years ago, and he was with the with the 466 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: with the Brewers when they were standing at home like 467 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: a bowling bon he stepped on home play. Everybody failed that. 468 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: If it's a walk off home run, do that. But 469 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: in the first, second, third, act like you get a 470 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: home run before, act like you got a base here before. 471 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: Do you think that do you think that guys are 472 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: taking it too far? Now? I don't know what's taking 473 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: it too far? Because if you like Bryce Harpers, you know, 474 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: he he's like the spokesman you know for it. You know, 475 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: like he's got his hair slipped back and his tattoos 476 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: and the y Aude audida and he's saying, you know 477 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: that the game itself is lacked self expression. And then 478 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, but I guess there's gotta be a line 479 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: to it there, right. There has to be a happy 480 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: medium because, like I said, if you're celebrating and I 481 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: don't like you celebrating, or I'm celebrating you don't like 482 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: you celebrate, where do we go from. There's a lot 483 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: of testosterone up there on the field, So we're gonna 484 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: be fighting because somebody's gonna be really piste off. Got 485 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: in the brawls. No, but I had to hit Luke 486 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Scott and oh wait because they drilled Jeter. Oh I 487 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: had to hit Luke Scott him. Well, part of it, 488 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: it's a part of it. It's kind of like you're 489 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: on a superstar, I'm gonna hit somebody on your team 490 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: and let you know, we didn't appreciate that. So when 491 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: they hit somebody in baseball, like how many? How is 492 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: is it the ball got away from you? What's the 493 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: percentage of the ball got away from you? Or like 494 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: you're a professional pitt in the situation. I mean, you 495 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: know you want to pitch in because if you don't 496 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: pitch in inside, the guy's gonna they're gonna dive all 497 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: over the plate and you're not. You're not gonna be 498 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: successful if you letting the guy reach over, you know, 499 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: lean over the plate and tee off from your fastball. 500 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: So you have to control one side of the other. 501 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: You're control. You're gonna control the inside of the plate 502 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: or the outside of the plate. Well that's a picture. 503 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: If I control the inside of the plate, that means 504 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: you don't know when I'm coming in, So you're gonna 505 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: be hesitant to jump out there. But sometimes a lot 506 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: of guys still dive out there on a fastball in 507 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: and they get hurt, they get hit. It's just part 508 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: of it. But you know they would say, well, don't 509 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: go ahead hunting. I mean, hey, some time to ball 510 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: gets away from you. But nine times out of out 511 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: of ten, guys are not hitting guys on purpose. They're not. 512 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: They're not like when you see like this, these balls 513 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: coming like your people's heads, like I can't imagine. I 514 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: mean Roger Clemens, though he was he was even when 515 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: he played for the Yankees, I didn't like, Well, I'm 516 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: a picture. So I will tell you this. The hitter 517 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: house on the helmet for a reason. Yeah, but those 518 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: helmets they sell them a target. I mean that's not true. 519 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Well we were at the big Leaves. They don't get 520 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: a target. Those are those But when so, but if 521 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to throw in a guy's head a profession, 522 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: but you have that ability, that skill set to get 523 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: in that area. Right, if you can hit the moving target, 524 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: you one bad brother, right. You gotta be able to 525 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: hit a moving target. And I even that day, I 526 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: didn't even hit Luke Scott that day. The first time 527 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: up they wanted me to hit. The first guy was 528 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Nick Mark because I played with him two years before. 529 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not hit Mark, Nick Markay, are 530 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: you actually having this conversation or in your head you're 531 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: just well I told Gerald that I wasn't gonna you know, 532 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: I told him, I but you hit him and you 533 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: hit him in the ass with the wait wait with this, 534 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, okay. Well Kevin Millar was up next, 535 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and Kevin one of my good friends. Well, I didn't know. Look, 536 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: Scott's like, okay, if I get these first two guys out, 537 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit Looke. Well, he knew he was gonna 538 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: get hit, so he's up there like this. So when 539 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I throw the ball right here, he's like, so he 540 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: made me miss. So the next one I had to 541 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: throw like right up in here so he wouldn't move, 542 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: and it threw me out of game. It was cool. 543 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: A bat flip will get you thrown at it. Could it? 544 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Could you do it? It depends on you when you do. 545 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: Who do you do with the thing is who you 546 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: do it too, what time in the game. That type 547 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: of stuff never bothered me because I had a lot 548 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: of respect, so we didn't want to do that because 549 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: when I struck you out, I act like I did 550 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: it before. When you got to hit off me. It 551 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: was okay. I was in Twins camp last two weeks 552 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: ago and one of the young guys was like, hey, 553 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: back that I know, I gotta hit off of you. 554 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: And I looked at him and standing and say, hey, 555 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: I pissed one years play a lot of people gotta 556 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: hit off me. Did you score? He was like, no, 557 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Score. Who was the person in 558 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: your twenty one years Top top three people that you 559 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: were like the most intimidated by a story as far 560 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: as hitting prouds like you were like the hardest guys 561 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: to get off the field. Give me the three. Harold Baines, yep, Um, 562 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: your boy beat the Bernie Williams okay, Bernie killed me? 563 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: And who else? Barry Bond No, only faced Barry twice? Um? 564 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: Did you you you played with McGuire against McGuire and 565 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: do you think it's weird? While you thinking of the 566 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: third one? Do you think it's weird that Sammy Sosa 567 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: went from being a black Latino so it looks like 568 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: my he looks like my uncle? Yeah, what kind of 569 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: creamy uses? Did you ever see that coming? That I 570 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: am with him in two thousand and four when I 571 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: was with the Cup Scaway, Yeah, but that's yeah, he 572 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: was still black at the time. He was off to 573 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: he was off to juice, so he looked like a 574 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: little kid. I'm like, all those home runs he was 575 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: hitting the year before and he was hopping and two 576 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: thousand four hitting the ball and he was like hopping 577 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: catching him at the watering track and I'm like, m 578 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: but but did you know, like was it was there? 579 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Did you notice any creams or lotion apecial appointments that 580 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: he was using? You know what? I think he was 581 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: anoxima guy, see us a lot of I mean, he's 582 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: wild for the night. He's white. Now he's white. He's 583 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: not white like me white. He's like white, like the 584 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: color white chalk. Right WHOA, Yes, Okay, I got it. Listen, Hawk, 585 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna be in all your twenty years, twenty 586 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: five years of being in baseball. This is gonna be 587 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: the interview where you get to say anything that you 588 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: want to say. Okay, because you're in here. I don't 589 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with the Iron Wrap Ports Stereo podcast. 590 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: We we I saw you notice in the rings from 591 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: the rings and we didn't just get the rings at 592 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: at a five a time. We won the chip where 593 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you guys one in the in the contest the Whole 594 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: World podcast rings. All right, so give me your third hitter. 595 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: You didn't give me, give me, give me one more 596 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: third hitter, said you said? Burins, Bernie and Frank Thomas. Okay, 597 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: the big hurt, the big herd, the big herd called 598 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: the big skirt. We're in the same division. Call him 599 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: the big skirt, all right. Hawk, there's a pleasure gun 600 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: to your head right now. If you have to say 601 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: who's gonna win the World Series right now, based on 602 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: all the things you know, all the injury free teams 603 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: right now, who would you say right now? What's your 604 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: prediction or who you think is gonna be in the 605 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Royal again? The Royals are good. They're really good, all right, 606 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: if they can stay away from major injuries like they 607 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: did last year. I don't see. I know a lot 608 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: of teams upgraded, the Red Sox, Yankees got better, Troy 609 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: got better. I just don't know. It'ssessed with This is 610 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: the key. I just don't do. You don't know if 611 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: he if he's that don't know if you can stay 612 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: focused for a hundred and sixty two game plus season, 613 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he the one who's showing up 614 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: to the different cars? It'd be the same one in 615 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: fifteen years he'll be asking for twenty dollars. That's an 616 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: indicator they might. Can I get twenty dollars? Yeah? You 617 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: know that horse, that horse I rode in the spring 618 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: training and he died. Yeah, the horse died. He's sitting 619 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: on the side of the road with that car. He 620 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: started coming and you know I hit him in the car. 621 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: He brought a pig too. What do you mean he 622 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: brought a pig? He bought a pig at the State 623 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: fairst Yeah. I think he was like seven grand for 624 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: that pig to eat it. Yeah. Yeah, he's crazy. He's 625 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna wish he never didn't. He has way too much money. 626 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: But before I let you go, one thing I want 627 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: to ask. Speaking of pigs, you were a vegan one year. 628 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm fascinated by this athletes Now I could see 629 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: that working, Like what was your Because I interviewed all 630 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Foster and he explored veganism and vegetarianism a couple 631 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: of seasons while he was playing in football. He said 632 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: it didn't affect him. What made you explore that? Are 633 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: you still a vegetarian? Are you still vegan? Did it 634 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: affect you? Like to talk to me about that experience? 635 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: In two thousand twelve, when I was playing in in 636 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: uh Anaheim in spring training. We had a clubhouse guy 637 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: who was who was a vegan who I can't think 638 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: of his name now, Shane clubhouse guy. He worked, he 639 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: worked with angels, and he told me about it. And 640 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: you know, I got my blood report back from our 641 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: physical and your physicals we were take in February and 642 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: my cholester raw was like one seventy and my back 643 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: luster rawle was n I started reading a book Food Revolution, 644 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: and then I ran read the China Report started you know, 645 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: getting brainwashed by that stuff. And it's like, I'm playing 646 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: California perfect place to try to, you know, do this 647 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: whole vegan thing, because you know, if you're gonna be vegan, 648 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: California is the place. What it took me about two 649 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: and a half weeks to get to get used to 650 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: eating some of the vegetable proteins and and you know, 651 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: the brown rice and and eating avocados every day. And 652 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, once I started doing it came easy and 653 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like, how I'm gonna figure figure this out 654 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: to eat it on the road. So I would call 655 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I would call the clubhouse guys to hit clubhouse managers 656 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: on the road and tell them that I was eating 657 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: vegan and they would have special food already for me. 658 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: So once I figured that out, that made it completely easy. 659 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: So I didn't from March the first until Thanksgiving. It 660 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: that year, my family and I were in in Paris 661 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and I end up eating some turkey in Paris. But 662 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: how it affected me? I was at two twenty. I 663 00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: got down a one nine. I was like that or 664 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: like were you like? Yo? Don't had great energy. My 665 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: fastball still was the same, but I lost so much 666 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: weight that my buddy Jason isn't housing. He talked about 667 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: me so bad. He wouldn't. He went and told the 668 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: clubhouse guy to replace my uniform with a smaller uniform. 669 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: It was getting too big, too big, he said. I 670 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: was swimming in the uniform. So I felt great. Felt 671 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: So now what do you do you split the difference? 672 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: You know what I no no red meat. I mean 673 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: an chicken and seafood, and you know I try to 674 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: try to eat as healthy as possible. 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