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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: We are in Shenzen. Thank you. We're in Shenzen.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I totally choked. It's been a long day.

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Speaker 3: We are in shenseeng at the hotel, and we're at

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Speaker 3: the wt A Finals, and of course there's some great

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Speaker 3: champions here this week, and one former wt A champion

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Speaker 3: of the finals is joining me for this episode of

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Speaker 3: the Racket Magazine podcast, and I'm so pleased to welcome

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Speaker 3: Aga Radvanska.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm very happy to be here. Yeah. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I used to call you Aggie right at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Why did I do that? It was some people calling

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Speaker 2: me agi agi Aga. It's so it's just what yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: correct one.

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Speaker 3: I finally like okay to fare awhile, but it's okay.

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Speaker 3: But then again, i've called people worse, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Good, Okaya, not too bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I always loved about you

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Speaker 3: on tour and it was you. You're one of the

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Speaker 3: people that I talk about when I used to do

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Speaker 3: on court like interviews, and I used to always try

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Speaker 3: and bring out the funny side of people or have

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Speaker 3: the relaxed side, and you were always.

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Speaker 2: So serious and I'm like, Aga, you.

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Speaker 3: Are so not that person like be who you are,

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Speaker 3: because you were one person that was very different off

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Speaker 2: Can you explain a little bit of that? Well, maybe

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Speaker 2: on the interviews, especially right after the match. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: just didn't want to say something stupid, or I was

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Speaker 2: just so tired that I just wanted to send something right,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I think so maybe, or just too much

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Speaker 2: sun sometimes and I was just, you know, wanted to

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Speaker 2: be short then just want to get out there. No,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I think you're just kind of careful what

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Speaker 2: you're saying, especially when it's fifteen thousand people, don't you know?

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Speaker 2: Do you? Were you able?

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Speaker 3: How were you I guess able to be so different

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Speaker 3: pretty very talkative of the court, you're very open and gregarious,

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Speaker 3: but then you're on the court you always looked so

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Speaker 3: like the same. How difficult was that or was that

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Speaker 3: just a learned behavior?

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Speaker 2: I think learned behavior. I didn't really think about it much. Well,

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Speaker 2: I already have tough way. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: we don't have anything. I was really fighting for everything

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Speaker 2: and my dad as well, and we remember those tournaments,

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Speaker 2: no empires, no nothing, and sometimes the girls were cheating,

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Speaker 2: so much cheating, but hey, they cheat everywhere. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: you cannot imagine. So I was always so angry. I

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Speaker 2: was almost crying because you know, it was even before

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Speaker 2: and I think it makes you very strong on court

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Speaker 2: and you don't want to show anything. And that was

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Speaker 2: when I was ten twelve years old. I was really

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Speaker 2: a kid, and I didn't want to chee anyone. When

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Speaker 2: it was out was out. When I was on the line,

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Speaker 2: the older ones. Yea. So also like I was.

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Speaker 1: Short, small, and not much changed, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe that you know, just for the childhe

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Speaker 2: you just have those kind of things that you know

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Speaker 2: then you can show it on the court, and you

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Speaker 2: just didn't realize that. Yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Grew up obviously, and you were from poland you didn't

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Speaker 2: So how was that more difficult or was it kind

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Speaker 2: of really cool for you? At the same time, I

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Speaker 2: did very good question because I think both, like you're saying,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't have anyone to look up to and

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Speaker 2: It was voting feedback. But it was so long time ago,

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Speaker 2: really compare. So I just I didn't know what the

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Speaker 2: fitness looks like to be honest, when I was eighteen

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Speaker 1: How did you figure that out?

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Speaker 2: Just on tour, just from experience and traveling around seeing

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Speaker 2: I think I kind of proved that you can do

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Speaker 3: Think like it's expensive to buy balls, to get practice partners.

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Speaker 2: Of course everything is very expensive. I'm from Cracker. There's

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Speaker 2: still no hardcotes there. Can you imagine? Well, why haven't

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Speaker 2: they're not one el door hardcore, not not even indoor.

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Speaker 1: Well what did you play on that?

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Speaker 2: Not on the grass?

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Speaker 1: No wonder you were so good on grass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the grass, but I can't imagine that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can't imagine that Poland is known for grass.

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Speaker 2: So there's like a sensitive grass like with a synthetic sand.

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Speaker 2: maybe two cours of real grass. But there's only grass. No, no,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that explains your game, right that you because

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Speaker 2: An unusual way to hit the ball, right you hit, you.

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Speaker 3: Like to absorb pace, you like to create certain crazy shots.

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Speaker 2: But I tell you why. Okay, that's why we're hit

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Speaker 2: So sometimes I have five practices, five practices on five

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Speaker 2: then of kind of like gummy surface, so fast, like.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable almostly quick, yes, which is explained to your game and.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes of course clay as well, indoor outdoor. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why we love to do things like

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Speaker 3: this and podcasts and to get to know why and

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Speaker 3: So it's really important I think for some people to

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Speaker 2: That you have to adjust to what you have.

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Speaker 3: You also have to adjust to how you are built,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like eight yet about that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm one, I'm five ten and one seventy eight. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so it's not you're not that big, but you're you know,

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Speaker 3: and you're don't exactly like have a huge build.

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Speaker 1: But it just proves to you that you learn to

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that's a really good lessons like

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Speaker 2: surface to surface sometimes even the hardcores are different, and

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Speaker 3: So do you would you recommend that young players ten eleven, twelve,

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes why not? Of course, for the body

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Speaker 2: not that big. Yeah, you're running, you're like like everything

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Speaker 3: Body when we go from clay, for example, exactly, I

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Speaker 2: From clay to grass.

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Speaker 3: The number one word in the locker room is do

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Speaker 3: you have grass asses because your butt.

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Speaker 1: Is so sore?

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Speaker 2: Like coconuts? Like coconuts?

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Speaker 3: Well mine would never coconuts always. Mine would like flat tiles.

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Speaker 3: So all right, So that's thank you. That was incredible

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Speaker 3: to listen to that part of like how things went

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Speaker 2: Well, because we're going to get back into what the

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Speaker 2: other stuff is. But more free time for less stress,

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Speaker 2: and you're enjoying life and you can do more activities

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Speaker 2: that you were avoiding all those years just to be

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Speaker 2: and time flies, and I just you know, I feel

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Speaker 2: like I just retired two weeks ago, really and it's

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Speaker 2: DESI with the stars. I was skiing. That went very

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Speaker 2: well for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that was really great experience. Semi finals more

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Speaker 4: like quarter that's that's that's how we interpret things.

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Speaker 2: What round did you get to? Quarters? Yeah? Okay, it's

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Speaker 2: better than better than the first round? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was so afraid. Oh god, not.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's been a lot of tennis players that

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Speaker 2: So I feel good about that. Yeah, not good feeling. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: especially that if you want to do good then it's

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Speaker 2: is that what I said? Or did you say another word?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know that said it would be as

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Speaker 3: How difficult if you were to talk to somebody who said,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of tournaments that you want did because

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00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: obviously it's not as big as a Grand Slam final.

438
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: But did you take some of the experiences from that

439
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: and put it into the next lot of big matches

440
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: after that?

441
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, it Actually the other finals didn't really feel

442
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: like a final because I didn't really feel that much pressure.

443
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: I remember I felt I couldn't even turn my hat

444
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: because actually I felt like I have like half of

445
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: my past time my throat and I couldn't speak. I

446
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: couldn't turn.

447
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel like pins and needles up the side

448
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: of your neck, like you just I was just not

449
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: a body experience.

450
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to turn home my body to turn, yeah,

451
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: because my head was impossible wanted to turn.

452
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: So now a question to ask you about that final,

453
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: because you both you and Serena are both in the

454
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: member's locker room at Wimbledon. Did you walk out behind

455
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: Serena or in front of her? Out to Senacort?

456
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember? I have no idea what you don't remember.

457
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: I think I was first, you're working in front. I think, so, okay.

458
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons why I'm not one

459
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: hundred percent sure, Well, one of the reasons I say

460
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: that is because I hate to talk about myself. But

461
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: last in my last Wimbledon final, doubles final, I played

462
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: Venus and Serena the sam and they were walking in

463
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: front of us, and I remember thinking, as we're walking

464
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: behind them, there's such a presence about them. Serena's just

465
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: got those great shoulders, and Venus is so tall, and

466
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: there's just a presence about them that are so unmistakable,

467
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: you know, And I'm but walking behind and I wasn't intimidated.

468
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: By a lot of people in doubles, but I was like,

469
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: I looked.

470
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: At Sam very quickly and was just like, because they

471
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: just have a presence. So I was wondering if you

472
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: walked in front or behind. You probably walked in front,

473
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: if you don't.

474
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, I think so.

475
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I think so because the hallway is so skinny.

476
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: It is, and it's a pretty long way to go.

477
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: It's quite yeah, by the stairs as well, So yeah,

478
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: I think I was.

479
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: Did you have goosebumps when you walked out to the court?

480
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: Are you trying so hard? I think? I think it

481
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 2: was everything in my had, especially I had a lot

482
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: of matches on the center cord, so the center court

483
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: didn't impress me. It was about this feeling.

484
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: Last we want to tell people. Not it didn't impress you,

485
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: It didn't scare you.

486
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because you so many times on it, and

487
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: I think I was playing three or four times, yeah,

488
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: and like half another tournament. I wasn't the center cord.

489
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: It was just the moment, yes, exactly.

490
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, Wow, it's it's a it's a memory though,

491
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty amazing. Do you remember, you know, going

492
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: back a new career, who was the most like fun

493
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: for you to play against, because you had I have

494
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: to tell you when you're retired, and I think I

495
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: wrote you this on Twitter. I said, I will miss

496
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: commentating you so much because you were my You were

497
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: literally one of my favorites because no matter everyone that

498
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: played hits a well, big and hard and serve, and

499
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: you always said something creative and fun. You were moving

500
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: because I, you know, had my thought was the same

501
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: as yours a little bit, and I loved loved watching

502
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: you play. You know, was there one player that you

503
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: walked on the court and went, okay, I know this

504
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: is going to be a really nightmare, long but fun

505
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: and when or loose, I'm okay.

506
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: I think that was Fatlanak was and really I think

507
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: obviously a great champion. We've paid so many times against

508
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: each other on every sort of face and I remember

509
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: I lost to her from the match point I won

510
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: against her, I was. I remember Madrid sixty three down

511
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: in the table and the third set and I won.

512
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: So we had really good matches against each other. And

513
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: I think she's the one of the players that she

514
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: can do everything on court, very powerful, good touch, mixing up,

515
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: playing spin flat slices, good volley. She can also keep

516
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: kick serve.

517
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: It's very good.

518
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: So, you know, very always very entertaining and also very

519
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: tough playing against her, and we had really long ones. Yeah. Yeah,

520
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: my favorite.

521
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: One of my favorite matches, well, there's so many, I

522
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: mean so many that I can mention about you, but

523
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: one of my favorite matches ever was when you played

524
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Dominique Sibelkova at Wimbledon on court two it used to

525
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: be the old.

526
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: Court, Yes, yes, and I was match.

527
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: I was like, literally the both of you were on

528
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: your knees half the match because she was so exhausted. Yes,

529
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: but it was like dommies just killing the ball and

530
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: trying to win the point and you're like getting one.

531
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: More ball back and one more ball back, and yeah,

532
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: that was a good one as well. It's it.

533
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: You guys had a great rivalry as well, but you

534
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: had great rave against Speaking of robberies, what do you

535
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: think about Kim coming back?

536
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy, right, it is crazy, and I

537
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: didn't expect that at all. Well, when you have three kids,

538
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: such a good career and a little thing outside the court, y,

539
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: you think why and yeah, but well.

540
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Why do you think then have you spoken to.

541
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Her, no, But I think for the new challenge, I

542
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: think she was a little bit born at home, maybe

543
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: just not enough ajournaline like we were talking about before,

544
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: and I think she's looking for some more adrenaline and

545
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: a new challenge. But well, it's gonna be interesting. And

546
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: now we can see a lot of young ones, very

547
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: strong playing as players that had a lot of experience.

548
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: They're no more easy matches, no more short matches. Uh,

549
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: it's going to be tough. But I'm very curious how

550
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: she's going to do because well, I'm just also Curris.

551
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: She was playing Legends, she was still she was still

552
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: on core.

553
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: And trust me, I was playing doubles with her Legends

554
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: and she still hits the Okay, there's a difference the

555
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: Legends and the Door and so yeah, it's gonna.

556
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: Be a great challenge if she gets.

557
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it has to stay healthy.

558
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: And and also singles because even doubles on Door is

559
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: different than the Legends, and they want about singles so well.

560
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: And I think the courts are also slower than before

561
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: because they're doing everything to make the tennis but you know,

562
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: longer on TV, better for the spectators. Both are also

563
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: I think more like fluffies.

564
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: Both are are different, everything.

565
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Different, Yes, but I think they're not really they're not fast,

566
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: so everybody, they're not what you like, Yes, exactly. And

567
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: I think ten years ago you could still have some

568
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: tournaments that was a faster the ball the friend. Would

569
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: you like to see that? Maybe you should put a

570
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 2: tournament and correct and make it fast. Well, it's for

571
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: sure worse for the spectators and to have you know,

572
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: quickly quick points aces and winners or mistakes. But like

573
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: for Kim, I think it's gonna be harder because you're

574
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: not gonna make winner from you know, from first all shot,

575
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: because it's impossible. But well, well yeah, I'm gonna for

576
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: sure I want to see her first match.

577
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: So flip from her, for example, to someone like Corey Golf,

578
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: Cocoa Golf. You've seen play a little bit, what do

579
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 3: you think about her game? And would you have liked

580
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: to have played somebody like that? Or can you imagine

581
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: playing somebody like that young?

582
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine once in Miami they asked me to

583
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: hit with some girl.

584
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, just this is when you were playing.

585
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was three years ago. She was twelve, she

586
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: was I don't know it's her. Yeah, sure, it was

587
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: like fifteen fifteen minutes within twenty minutes.

588
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Why did they want you to hit?

589
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Anyway? The same the same agent, and you know she's

590
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: with the girl that's you know, wants to play tennis

591
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: and be being around. And I'm like, yeah, why why not?

592
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: And she was already as well as me, as told you,

593
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: she's an incredible athlete, and we were all like long legs, okay, wow.

594
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: And then we start to hit, and I thought, you know,

595
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like really liked yes, like you know,

596
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: just a little bit. And then she says to hit

597
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: like the twenty year old. I'm like, oh my god,

598
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: of course he makes some you know, mistakes, and that

599
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: was that consistent. But I was like, very skinny, but

600
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: you know, so powerful. Wow. And when she serves, she

601
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: served in like one seventy.

602
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: There, which you've never served in your whole life exactly.

603
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm like I wish I'm

604
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: like this like this, oh my okay, all right, and

605
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: is like when I was twelve, I was saying like

606
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: one ten maybe, oh yeah, comment it was not miles now.

607
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm not even saving miles right now. So I was

608
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: like okay, And then three years later I'm seeing her

609
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: on tour playing playing Venus and beating players from top twenty.

610
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. I mean, I know she's gonna play,

611
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: but not as fast as that as that, because I

612
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: mean fifteen year old, I remember me, fifteen year old. No,

613
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: there's no chance even physically to play like that. It

614
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: doesn't matter against who on the tour, there was just

615
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: no chance physically. So I'm impressed, especially she's thinking on cord.

616
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: She's really thinking on cord. She's not like sometimes we

617
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: we are calling these kind of like blind shooters.

618
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you line shooter is maaning people that see

619
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: ball hit ball, hit ball hard, heart doesn't matter where

620
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: just hard.

621
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Give me an example of someone like that.

622
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not about sometimes it's just sometimes I

623
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: think the girls panicking or not really thinking to change something,

624
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: and they're doing that, Like, while you're doing that, it's

625
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: not gonna help you at all. And you can see

626
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: fifteen year old now sixteen year old girl was really thinking.

627
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: She knows where to put the ball, when to hit,

628
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: when to slow down a little bit. And that's very impressive.

629
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the most impressive thing about

630
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: her really about everything else, I think, so just to

631
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: just to think and she can use all her skills

632
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: because she's really thinking and not panicking. When when you

633
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: hit with her, did she talk to you you, did

634
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: she ask you questions? Or was she quite shy? Quite shy? Yeah,

635
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: with her dad, And of course I didn't have that

636
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: much time because I was really I I was playing.

637
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: It was I was still in the competition, so it

638
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: was very shy. Of course we had pictures and talk

639
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: a little bit, but she was just a kid. Yeah,

640
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: and that's yeah, it is coming up with some beauties today,

641
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: some great stories.

642
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well golf at twelve and you're like, what the hell,

643
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: you're my height and you're serving bigger.

644
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: Than me already. What the fuck? Exactly?

645
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: This is not fair, not fair at all.

646
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why you retired was what I guess,

647
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: what was the overlying reason why you ended up.

648
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: Retiring mentally and physically. That was a combination of both.

649
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was first, to be honest,

650
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, and it's I think it always goes

651
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: together at some point, and I knew I'm just not

652
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: gonna play at the same level that I was playing

653
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: last ten years. And for me, either I play and

654
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm top ten or I'm done. I don't want to be.

655
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: There are some players that you know, playing for five

656
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: six years, going down, going down and down and down

657
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: and playing some qualities and that's not even if. And

658
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: then like I don't see like for what I have

659
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: a like good life outside tennis, and I think you

660
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: know I was playing for so many years in a row,

661
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: because I think there's a lot of players that are

662
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: having breaks in between. But that's also a little bit

663
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: different career than when I was playing thirteen years in

664
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: a row without any breaks, and you played a lot,

665
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: playing almost fifty grand seven in a row. There's a

666
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: little bit different story.

667
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 3: Did you contemplate even for a second maybe coming back

668
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: because there was word on the street that you might

669
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: come back.

670
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: No, at the moment we're sitting here, there's no chance

671
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: because I don't think physically that I can even be

672
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: top twenty at the moment because there is just too

673
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: much for my body. Like we were saying, my body,

674
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: it's not really the athletic body that we can see

675
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: others that there is very strong, and you have a

676
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: you have a cross country body. Yeah, exactly, that's the

677
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: run for hours exactly like Marton's. And yes, and that's

678
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: all I did actually. But even at the moment, I'm

679
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: playing some doubles for fun, or I'm running or I'm

680
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: sighting and I'm walking for ten meters a day and

681
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: I'm cramping and my foots are like is a disaster? Yeah,

682
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: so on my back is also it's it's terrible shoulder.

683
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: I still now there's no chance for me to serve

684
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: because it's so bad. It's so bad. Sometimes I'm trying,

685
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: but no, it's a joke.

686
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: So when you and your husband have children, because this

687
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: is gonna happen, right one day it has, are you

688
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: going to put them into tennis?

689
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't his grandpapa.

690
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: No, I think grandpa will love to play with grandchildren.

691
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: So well, I think it all depends, right, I mean,

692
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 2: I think when it's the kids, you can really see

693
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: from the beginning if they can do it or not.

694
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think not everyone can play tennis and

695
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: gonna play tennis because you see, it's just what happened, right,

696
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: And so I don't.

697
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Want to put their kids in their sport, and some

698
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: really do so and your husband is he is the

699
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: Fed Cup coach captain Poland, so you know he might

700
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: want his.

701
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Yead to be of course, I've nothing against and now

702
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: actually I'm building a house and I want to also

703
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: court house. Yes, oh my god, you're normally seriously, don't

704
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: tell me if it's sick or it's normal. Yes, So

705
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: it's interesting, right, So you know, I have nothing against

706
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: and I would have to hit as well right now

707
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: of the kids with friends, But for me, just the

708
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: chapter of personal tennis, it's it's over. But it's not

709
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: like I hate tennis and I can some people tis.

710
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: And I know the players white tennis, and I talk

711
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: with a lot of them.

712
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: That they don't ever want to play again.

713
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Oh and they really like Oh they can talk about

714
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: it really. Yeah, so I think you know it's who

715
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: I ask you to reveal any of them. No, no,

716
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: but it's I'll ask you once we turned the type

717
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: off exactly here. But it's it's interesting that some of

718
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: the players that I also talk to, they saying there's

719
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: no chance their kids going to play tennis. Yeah, interesting

720
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: because I think it's not easy. We all know how

721
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: much work and how many years of sacrifice it's on

722
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: the way to be here. We we're just sitting. So

723
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: it's not about one year or two years. Sometimes there

724
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: are the sports that they're starting when they're twelve, fourteen,

725
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: when you want to really be on the top, four

726
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: or five years old, and everything in the tennis is

727
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: always the party from the beginning. It's a priority from

728
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: the beginning. So it's really very hard. Of course, when

729
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: you're on the top, it's you're always saying yeah, it's

730
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: like you're not a wedding and you'll never change your

731
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: life for something different. But there's millions of people that

732
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: they're not on the top, and they sacrifice so many things, yeah,

733
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: and now they have pretty much nothing. So that's why

734
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: I think those players who knows that, you know how

735
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: much work is on the way, it's they're not really

736
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: they want, they don't what they cad to be unhappy

737
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: and and really see that the same way over again.

738
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: So I have to ask you, because your dad was

739
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: your coach for a long time, yes, and your sister played.

740
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: Were you always from the start to the end of

741
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: your career always happy about tennis?

742
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: Well, my dad used to play and for as the kids,

743
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: we didn't have a choice we had. That's it. You

744
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: like it or you don't like it. I don't care.

745
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: You play, you play, you practice, or if you feel

746
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: I were sick, it doesn't matter. You play tennis and

747
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: then you can go to the bed. So very strict

748
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: and always the party, always in the first place, and

749
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: there was nothing about it. And I think the mental

750
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: of people are changed, the mentality of I think parents

751
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: that they were the one the kids having this kind

752
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: of so your dadhood, your your dad wanted it more

753
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: than you at the beginning, of course, because I was

754
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: I think too young and too small to even understand

755
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: to understand doing and think and dream that I'm going

756
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: to be I'm killing and actually playing against Serena because

757
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: I was watching Serena for so many years, right yeah,

758
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: and have her posters.

759
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, what's the balance?

760
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Then? For parents, it's always hard to say. And I

761
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: think a lot of uh, it's it's all about kid.

762
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: How if he sees tennis, because some of them they

763
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: want to play whole day, or the kids or the

764
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: kids sometimes and sometimes there's a kid like yeah, I'm tired,

765
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, and you need to push them. Yes,

766
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: So I think it's all about the mentality of the kids.

767
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: So basically you're saying it's okay to push your kid

768
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: if they need to be pushed, but you also have

769
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: to recognize if there's somebody who doesn't need to be pushed.

770
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: But I think if you were to raise a child,

771
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: you would push them, but you would always make sure

772
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: they're happy.

773
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think you're gonna have to push, because

774
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to push. Sometimes five or

775
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: seven year old kid is not smart enough to know

776
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: what they want or if he wants to play tennis

777
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: or I don't know, basketball, it's it's just it's just

778
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: too young. So that's the that's the parents here who

779
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: don't wait for you to have kids. So it's always

780
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: very tough, and there's like no recipe for forever. There's

781
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: a lot of details on the way, like hundreds of details.

782
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: I think you know just well, you're building a house

783
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: and putting a colt next door. I have I have

784
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 2: a slight suspicion your kid is going to play tennis. Well,

785
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: for sure it's gonna be, but how will probably a

786
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: little different to you because it will be a nice hardcourt.

787
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: I would imagine, Oh yeah, yes, what are you going

788
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: to do well hardcore for sure, because.

789
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: You know it's it's easiest, difficult to take care of.

790
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: But for me, like I grew up on clay. Okay,

791
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: we didn't have hardcore, and everywhere it was just a

792
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: clay and of them, we're just on clay courts everywhere.

793
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: And I didn't have money to go to the States

794
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: or to I don't know, travel around the world, so

795
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 2: everything important on Europe and Check it was on clay

796
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: or indoors or indoor carpet carpet, indoor. Yeah. And then

797
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: actually I was starting to play on tour and on

798
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: the on a hardcore and I was always saying I

799
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: had hardcore because I don't know how to play on hardcore.

800
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: This is so bad. And I was so pissed, like

801
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: why you have to pay on hardcore? And then it

802
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: was like ninety percent of thed you have no choice,

803
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: like no choice, And then I suddenly changed one eighty,

804
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: like because you realized how good you were on hardcore.

805
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: And then I love hardcore and I was paying everything

806
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: in hardcore. And then every like year by year, I

807
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: just couldn't play on clay anymore because I was physically

808
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: not strong enough and it took me so much energy.

809
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't finish the ball. And it's one match. It

810
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: was like four matches on the high court. Yeah, and

811
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: I hated it, like I was so much energy, but

812
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: it cost me so much.

813
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: It cost me so much playing net on clay on clay.

814
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: So that's why, like last three years I didn't play

815
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: on clay. Yeah.

816
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: Interesting, so.

817
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: How that changed? Yeah, and yeah, so that's interesting. So

818
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter when you start.

819
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: It's it doesn't matter when you start or what you started, Yes,

820
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: depends on what you end up being good at. And

821
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: also understanding players are different. They hit the ball differently

822
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: to you. And you played with your sister a lot

823
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: and she plays a lot different to some other players

824
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: on the.

825
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Tour exactly, but also different tennis. Like when I was

826
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: seven heroes.

827
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're all to twenty seven.

828
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: It was just different tennis. Yeah, different on porners, different girls.

829
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: There's just you know, everything changed.

830
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: So Okay, you've been so nice to spend your time here.

831
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: We're actually sitting and watching Benchit playing Switzerlina in the

832
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: semi final, so we'll see what happens because bench It's

833
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: just one of the first set.

834
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: But I want to know from you. I saw so

835
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: many great, unbelievable shots of yours.

836
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: You know, if there was one shot that you were

837
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: like god, you know, if you have kids and you're like, okay,

838
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: there's one shot, watch this, watch this shot from every

839
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: single day, what one would it be?

840
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: I think that shot from Miami when I was playing

841
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: against flip guns, I think that was the shot that

842
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: it's not happening right at all. And you can't see

843
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: that shot every single day, right, So you know that's

844
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: the instinct. There's a reaction. You're not practiced that this

845
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: is a place what you were saying, we're not You're

846
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: not panicking, You're just seeing what is happening, and you

847
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: do it. Things go from really fast to really slow.

848
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: And you when you have a brain like.

849
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: Yours and you have the ability to create on the

850
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: tail scort, you everything slows down, no exactly, and you.

851
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Think you have so many seconds just to prepare, to

852
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: think and then to play and actually, in a real world,

853
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: do you have just half second? No, not even not

854
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: even sometimes yes.

855
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, well it's really funny that you bring that

856
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: up because I was commentating thatch okay, and it was

857
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: a good match that was.

858
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: It was a great match.

859
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: And you know Flipper, a poor old Flipper because you know,

860
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 3: she got which she felt got hooked a few times

861
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: every year because she felt like she had the best

862
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: shot on the wo and you wanted every year no

863
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: matter what.

864
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: And so we want to give a bit of credit.

865
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: To Slipper and of all the people that you hit

866
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: your greatest.

867
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: Shot against, it was against Flippers.

868
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: But because she's had some beauties through the Oh yes,

869
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: and I actually bought for her once she made that

870
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: unbelievable shot and I knew it's going to be her

871
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: because that was unbelievable. I think it was the twinner

872
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: and she made some winner from that, and I was crazy.

873
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: And then ending up again, what am I goin to

874
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: do an hit the ball with not looking exactly?

875
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you've already done that.

876
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: That was truly one of the greatest shots.

877
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: And I literally got out of my chair as a

878
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: commentator and just went, are you joking?

879
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it was I miss commentating actually, and actually

880
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm also missing that kind of shots and talking about

881
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: it because this is always something that you're going to

882
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: remember for so many years and I need adrenaline on that. Yes, yes.

883
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: And also it's always when I was doing that on

884
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: Core and I was like, I was thinking, oh my god,

885
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: is this going to be shot off the air? Oh,

886
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: I have to do it better. You really thought that, Yeah,

887
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: So especially when it was like when I want to

888
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: read it twice or three times, I was like, Okay,

889
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: I have to do it again.

890
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, it was always such a pleasure at

891
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: first of it was always a pleasure to play against you,

892
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: even though it was a nightmare because nobody could hit

893
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: a cross go back and passing shot past me at

894
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: the net better than you, and you did it.

895
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: A lot of times.

896
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: But I always had so much fun playing against you

897
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: because it was always the same.

898
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: You gave everything.

899
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: It was fun. You left it on the court. We

900
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: smiled and we talked off the court. We always had

901
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: a great relationship. You're always awesome debris around on the tour.

902
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 3: We miss you out on tour, but it's been great

903
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: to see you this week. It's also I miss commentating

904
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: you because, like I said, you were truly one of

905
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: my favorite to commentate anytime. But I'm really happy that

906
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: you're happy and life.

907
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: Is good for yourself. Your life is good and well

908
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: maybe you will play some doubles and legends so I

909
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: can do those back again, can you?

910
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: Because you know I am pretty good with the trick

911
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: shots as well.

912
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm not losing my touch, so be careful.

913
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: Guess what, honey, The touch is all that's there from me,

914
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, we'll see, we'll see. You know. I

915
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: did hit a tweener one time and the woman final double.

916
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: I hope we can play some doubles.

917
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: Okay, well, we're gonna put it out there right now.

918
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: Radwanska and Renee Stubbs would like to be paired together

919
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 3: at a Grand Slam in the legends.

920
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: Yes, because you we.

921
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: Will not have more fun and in actual fact, I

922
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: am losing my luncheon's partner in Kim Cloisters at Wimbledon's right.

923
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: Want it? Like last year? We had default this year

924
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: because Kim heard her neck. Oh okay, we were undefeated,

925
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: so okay, well there you go. Therefore, Radwanska and Stubbs

926
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Speaker 2: sounds pretty good to me. Yes, I mean as well, thanks,

927
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Speaker 2: let's do it.

928
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. Thank you, I love you, thanks

929
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: so much, thank you. I'm going to come and visit

930
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: you and crack out when you're building your house.

931
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well we can practice there exactly her core.

932
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: And you know, if you kick me out, I've got

933
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: a hotel I can go to exactly.

934
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Speaker 5: Thanks mate, Thanks, and that's it for this episode of

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Speaker 5: the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host is

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Speaker 5: Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer is me Keaitlin Thompson.

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00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 5: Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim

938
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Speaker 5: Or Jerry and then the.

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Speaker 2: Team at ACAST.

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