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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show. No fooling around here.

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Speaker 1: We are all business, just like the Cardinals front office.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks into free agency and a total of eight

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Speaker 1: new players haven't added. The latest move signing veteran quarterback

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. In my opinion, it's the smartest move of

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Let's see if MJ feels the same way. Also,

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Speaker 1: more football is never a bad thing. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode four ten and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight

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Speaker 1: of Fritz part Pennies into the ensode for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie. So, I'd say, for

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Speaker 1: the most part, you and I get along, right, m

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Speaker 1: Jay correct, Well, we put the gloves on and went

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Speaker 1: three rounds in the latest episode of Debate This and

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Speaker 1: it's dropping on the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube page later

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, it might already be up. You can also

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Speaker 1: go to asy Cardinals dot com. But uh yeah, we

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Speaker 1: came out swinging a little bits because well, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I don't like losing. I lost the debut episode of

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Speaker 1: Debate this to our colleague Darren Urban, and I was

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Speaker 1: not going to lose back to back shows. M Jay

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Speaker 1: just nothing against you, but I was not going to lose. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, we if you're not familiar

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Speaker 1: with the segment, something new and Kyle Odegard and Jacob

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Speaker 1: they do a really good job kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: letting us know and we take different topics. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's any right or wrong answer like I,

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Speaker 1: like I said on the debate Craig is, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to wait until the end of the season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you want to let them know that some of

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Speaker 1: the questions, No, because I want to direct everyone. This

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Speaker 1: is that this is you know, we're got radio background,

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Speaker 1: so the perfect example, and this is what we do.

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Speaker 1: We direct people to the YouTube page or the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, three questions and you're right, there is no

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Speaker 1: right or wrong answer unless it's differing from my opinion,

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Speaker 1: then yes it is a wrong answer, but something different,

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Speaker 1: something fun. And yes, Kylo Regard and Jacob Orti is

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Speaker 1: doing a fantastic job and it does bring out our

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Speaker 1: personalities and you give a little back and forth because

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Speaker 1: we tend to agree a lot, but there are certain

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Speaker 1: topics and yes, disagreement is good because you get to

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Speaker 1: see or get to hear someone's opinion, the other side

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Speaker 1: point of view, if you will honest see Craig, after

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Speaker 1: watching you and Darren, I thought you came out of

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Speaker 1: your show a little bit. Yeah. I mean you're a

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Speaker 1: great host. We know you host the bringing the postgame shows,

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Speaker 1: you're the host of the Red Sea Report. You set

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Speaker 1: us up to have those conversations. But I was in

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Speaker 1: how you came out of your show a little bit

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Speaker 1: and you really were strong about your opinion. So again,

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Speaker 1: go to YouTube, check it out, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: find out at some point through the year, maybe at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, who is right and who

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Speaker 1: is wrong. Yes, sometimes you need a little time before

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Speaker 1: a decision becomes clear as far as whether it was

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Speaker 1: the right decision or the wrong decision. Although with the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up four weeks from today, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the first round of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do the next day, even that night,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna say, oh, this was a great pick. Oh

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Speaker 1: what are they doing here? You can't take that guy

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Speaker 1: so high? We don't know. It's all an opinion, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta wait with a draft pick probably three four

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Speaker 1: labeled bust. Craig, We've been talking about this for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And this year because of the quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: again departing on how far you go down, but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear more about trade down options. I think now

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Speaker 1: the scouts, you know, a year's worth the work and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals empty in those rounds. Well, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: According to Kyle Odegard, when it comes to the division

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Speaker 1: it up and offered a number one next year? Now

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Speaker 1: So that means you're picking somewhere in the twenties and

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Speaker 1: who you're trading up for. Yeah, that's the thing. Are

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'd much rather if you're going to

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Speaker 1: the smartest move of the off season the addition and

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Speaker 1: the signing of veteran quarterback McCoy to back up Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: Based on the outcome and based on the results, it's

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Speaker 1: it's hard to disagree with that. I liked the signing

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Speaker 1: of Coulton McCoy. You know, we'll talk about thirty starts,

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Speaker 1: And the fact that he was with Jason Garrett last

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Speaker 1: and Chris Struggler to me, is a guy that's eligible

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Speaker 1: you want guys competing in Nothing's given to anybody, But

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Speaker 1: I think McCoy would be a viable option if something

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at a two or three four game stretch,

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Speaker 1: forty four games of experience, thirty starts. You know what

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Speaker 1: not too big for you. He doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of experience, but don't discount what he did at Texas.

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Speaker 1: He was an outstanding college quarterback. Didn't get much of

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Speaker 1: in case of an emergency, you break glass and you

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Speaker 1: does come back and again, knock on wood, this doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: We never see the backup quarterback. But the recency bias

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Speaker 1: that I have. Week seventeen, Murray goes down, Struveler comes in.

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Speaker 1: You need to win that game to get into the postseason.

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Speaker 1: And it was awful. It just didn't look good. And

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Speaker 1: the postseason. And I don't want that to happen again

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Speaker 1: this year. Listen to the last couple of years, Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray has been banged up towards the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: yourselves and fairness of Chris Streveler. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: of people, first of all, a lot of players live

429
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Speaker 1: here in the offseason. I just think, you know, when

430
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Speaker 1: you look at guys like Williams and are Green, I mean,

431
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 1: let's be honest, Cincinnati, ever since Marvin Lewis left there, Um,

432
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: they haven't been the same team. At least they made

433
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I got to feel like these guys

434
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: not just so much the weather, but just the kind

435
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: of reset their careers and whether they play here for

436
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: the next couple of years or not. It's it's it's

437
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: to a point where, you know, I think the Cardinals,

438
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, when they look at these guys, they feel

439
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: like they still got something left. And I mean clearly

440
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: going out and getting Watt. But what was interesting is

441
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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, we know he's you know, he's been a

442
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 1: consultant with Herman Edwards and Antonio Pierce has kind of

443
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: taken over the defense, and aj Green said he had

444
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: a conversation with Marvin Lewis's who's obviously living in Arizona,

445
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: probably Scottsdale, working in Tempe, and then william said he

446
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: talked to Marvin Lewis and it's just fascinating where it's

447
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: about relationships and he's and there was a story about

448
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: how they kind of followed each other. You can maybe

449
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: get into some of the details there, but it's nice

450
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Speaker 1: that you know, you want into hell on something. Hey

451
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: you what are you here in Arizona. Well, first of all,

452
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: what Marvin Lewis told him Aj Green was you're gonna

453
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: like that quarterback. He can spin it. And you know,

454
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis supposed he was at a couple of Cardinal practices,

455
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: maybe it was before COVID when Murray was drafted, so

456
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: he had a first up and close look at him.

457
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: And then to tell Williams, yeah, you know, obviously Vans

458
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: Joseph had some intel there. But the fact that you

459
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: know they're on the rice, and I think that's the

460
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: whole idea right now when teams look at the Cardinals, yes,

461
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: they five to eight wins, but they feel like this

462
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: team is close. Now it's a matter of learning how

463
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Speaker 1: to finish. And obviously you know we're gonna have one

464
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: dud in this upcoming season. I don't know when it's

465
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Speaker 1: going to be, but make sure you start off well

466
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: and you finished strong. So I think players are intrigued

467
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: that this team could be on the rice in the NFC.

468
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: And if you do have that dud, make sure it

469
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: stopped immediately and it doesn't make it a two three

470
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Speaker 1: game losing streak. But to your point about Marvin Lewis

471
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Speaker 1: now at Arizona States, and AJ Green contacted coach Lewis

472
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Speaker 1: before signing with the Arizona Cardinals and Sean Jeffers excuse me,

473
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Speaker 1: Sean Williams did as well, and the joke was that

474
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Speaker 1: coach Lewis said, hey, you know what, Sean, you're following

475
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Speaker 1: AJ to the University of Georgia, You're following him to

476
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, and now you're following him to the

477
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. And Williams kind of jokes like, I guess

478
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: that's the case. I don't know what it is. But

479
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: so those two players, certainly one they know each other.

480
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Speaker 1: But to your point about relationships, and see what you

481
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Speaker 1: want about Marvin Lewis in his time with the Cincinnati Bengals,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't think he gets enough credit considering the history

483
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Speaker 1: of that franchise. But here, you have two players even

484
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Speaker 1: though Williams was gone, they still keep in touch. Sean

485
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: Williams brought up and you brought it up as well,

486
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Speaker 1: the relationship that he has with Vance Joseph. After his

487
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: third year when Joseph was the DB's coach, they've maintained

488
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Speaker 1: that relationship. And I don't know, maybe we're here more

489
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: of it because as we talked about it and maybe

490
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: joked that were signing the Cardinals are adding more players

491
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Speaker 1: with experience late twenties, early thirties, so they've been around

492
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Speaker 1: a number of different players and coaches. But I am

493
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: just amazed at Yes, money matters, fit matters, quality of

494
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: life matters, but who am I going to be playing with?

495
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: Who am I going to be playing for? And for

496
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: guys that have been with the Cincinnati Bengals their entire career,

497
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: AJ Green and now Sean Williams. And it was Williams

498
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Speaker 1: who said it was kind of refreshing and there's maybe

499
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: a little bit re energized now from those two players

500
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: coming to a new team for the first time. And

501
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: I think you have to give a lot of credit

502
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Speaker 1: to Vanch Joseph in the case of those two players

503
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Speaker 1: coming to the Arizona Cardinals and in the case of

504
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Speaker 1: Kelvin Beecham Sean Coogler. This is what the business of

505
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Speaker 1: professional sports is all about. You want to like your teammates,

506
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: respect your coaches, and ultimately win, but you want to

507
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: have some fun and be in and have it enjoyable

508
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: as you're doing it and not be miserable. Yeah, I

509
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: think that what you said is I think they're kind

510
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: of hitting the reset button on their careers. You know.

511
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: You know Rodney Hudson, I gotta think that things didn't

512
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: go well for him, considering he just signed the extension.

513
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: He's one of the better centers so and the weather

514
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt it even though he was in Vegas. I

515
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: think JJ Watt is motivated just what he went through

516
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: and just that cloud that's been hanging over the Houston

517
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Texans franchise, and then, no disrespect to cincinnatiy went out

518
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: and drafted. I think has a bright future in Joe Burrow.

519
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: We'll see if Zach Taylor's the guy there. They really

520
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: don't have a big scouting department, so I think those

521
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: guys feel like, hey, we got an opportunity here. It's

522
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: refreshing to get a fresh start, you know where you

523
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: just don't you show up to work every day knowing

524
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: that we're probably not going to win this week, and

525
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at my future and you can't

526
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: have one foot in, one foot out. I think all

527
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: these guys that they brought in, they're motivated for their

528
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: second part of their careers now. Sean Williams and Chris

529
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Banjo to the other moves this team made since our

530
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: last show, both safeties, but more leaning towards special teams,

531
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Speaker 1: although in a pinch and Banjo did have to play

532
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: a lot of safety because Jayalen Thompson was in and

533
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. Deontay Thompson at times was ineffective,

534
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: and then Buddha Baker did miss some time as well.

535
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Speaker 1: But I'll give Sean Williams credit. He admitted last year

536
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: was not the easiest year for him after a career

537
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: year in twenty nineteen, all of a sudden having to

538
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: take a backup role and be more of a proponent

539
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: on special teams. But he is willing to do anything

540
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: and everything. Nothing's been promised, though. I do like the

541
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: fact that the two moves at the safety position, you

542
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: do have guys who in a pinch, can step up

543
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: and play now competition As you said, MJ and Jalen

544
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Speaker 1: and Deontay Thompson keep progressing. Can one they stay on

545
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: the field and then keep progressing. But if not, you've

546
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: got Williams and Banjo right there in the mix to

547
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: come in and play alongside of Buddha Baker. You know,

548
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: when they signed Williams, you thought maybe that could be

549
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: the end for Chris Banjo. But we know how much

550
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: they value special teams. We know if you're going to

551
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: be active on game day. But I do like that

552
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: there's some depth there, and you got a little bit

553
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: of experience in Banjo and Williams. You've got the who,

554
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: my opinion, will be the face of the defense for

555
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: the next X amount of years in Buddha Baker. Then

556
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: you're thrown the Thompson twins between Dante and Jalen. We

557
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: know that they're both capable of starting. So you got

558
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: some youth in there, and then you got you study

559
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: in Buddha Baker, and then you got some veterans. So

560
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they covered themselves because injuries will occur

561
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: playing that position. Obviously physical position to play. Hopefully Buddha

562
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: can play all sixteen games. I know he missed the

563
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Carolina game, but he also was playing with a cast

564
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: on this year or so, you know, give him a

565
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: ton of credit. But I like where they are there now.

566
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: You just need to add a couple more corners, and

567
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: I think to set the secondary settling down to where

568
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, we're like, Okay, if they

569
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Speaker 1: lose Patrick, what are they going to do? Well, all

570
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they waited and waited and they got

571
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, and I think I think you're going to

572
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: see physicality there. Another guy. I don't know if he's

573
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: hitting the reset button, but you know he's been in

574
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: the league long enough to where, hey, I want to

575
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: extend my career, and if he plays well enough, I

576
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: would think they would consider extending him. By the way,

577
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Speaker 1: as we speak here on this Thursday, April first, the

578
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals actually have more safeties on the roster than they

579
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: have cornerbacks. It's seven to five advantage safety with Buddha, Baker,

580
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson, Deonte Thompson, Chris Miller, Charles Washington, Chris Banjo,

581
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Speaker 1: and now Sean Williams. In that cornerback room Malcolm Butler,

582
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Robert Alford, Byron Murphy, Picasso Nelson, and Jace Whittaker. So

583
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Speaker 1: to your point, yes, they do need to add two

584
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe three, and that counts the draft as well as

585
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: far as the corner back position. But you brought up Butler.

586
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: What struck you listening to him for the first time

587
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: since his signing, And of course we know his history

588
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: and it's an outstanding history. I mean, the biggest player

589
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: arguably in Super Bowl history, and of course the history

590
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: now that he'll have with the Seattle Seahawks. But listening

591
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: to Malcolm Butler, someone again in his early thirties, but

592
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: coming off the best year of his career at age thirty,

593
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: and he believes MJ. Hilly only get better this year.

594
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: He's a stud and he again I don't want to

595
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: sit here and compare him to Patrick Peterson. Patrick Peterson

596
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: had a nice Cardinal's career. We all know it wasn't

597
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the same more or the last couple of years. I

598
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: think Patrick Moore athletic, But again, if you're going to

599
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: play man and man press, he is physical at the

600
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He will come up and support the

601
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: run game. Now, if you've got a speedy receiver, you

602
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: better make sure you get safety help. But he's covered

603
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: big receivers in the League's done a really good job.

604
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. I think he went up again j Green,

605
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: and we know that they had three different quarterbacks there,

606
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: so maybe that's not and people were gonna look at

607
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: he had one hundred tackles. Well again, they were ranked thirtieth,

608
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: only nineteen sacks, and him and Jeffrey Simmons were their

609
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: best players. That he was beloved in the building. We

610
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: always talked about, well why was he available? He was

611
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: a cap casualty. He knew that they weren't going to

612
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: be able to pay him that and Cardinals waited, waited

613
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the powder dry a little bit and got him at

614
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: three five. Couldn't make up the six, but that is

615
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: a huge pickup. We focus on JJ Watt because of

616
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: the name. We focused on Rodney Hudson, which is rightfully so,

617
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: but this is to me is going to go a

618
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: long way. I think what stood out to me outside

619
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: of the hole picking off Russell Wilson in Super Bowl

620
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: forty nine is when Butler talked and was asked about

621
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: the release and he totally understood the business of the game.

622
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Here's someone ja that is going to lose the comparing

623
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: to what he was scheduled to make to what he

624
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: will now make. He is losing a significant chunk of money.

625
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: But he did not sound bitter at all. Quote I

626
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: have money. I came from nothing. I have money, but

627
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: playing football is something that I really love doing. End quote.

628
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: The passion something that we hear a lot from GM

629
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Steve Come that you can't always measure. You can't look

630
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: in someone's head, you can't look in someone's heart. But

631
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: just the physicality that you mentioned, and the passion that

632
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: he spoke about playing the game, not playing because it's

633
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: what he's good at, playing the game because he loves

634
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: the game. Well, I mean, I'm sure it's been discussed,

635
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, obviously all the other places he's been, but

636
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: he was he was working at a fast food restaurant,

637
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: he was working at Popeye's. Undrafted free agent, so yeah,

638
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: and at this point in his career, you know, Tennessee

639
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: was knocking on the door. You know, the defense really

640
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: couldn't step up in the postseason, relying Derek Henry and

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Speaker 1: everything else. But it's just the fact that you know,

642
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: he feels like he's got a lot left. And we

643
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: know corners can played your thirty three thirty four, especially

644
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: if it's all about technique. And but I'm excited to

645
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: watch him in this defense, and I'm glad that they're

646
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna keep Murphy inside and we're all going to be

647
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: crossing our fingers on the Alford. But I do think

648
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: they'll whether it's in the first or second round, they

649
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: will get a corner and they'll bring ten to twelve

650
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: to camp and just start to flood the position. But

651
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: you know, we look at you know who was the

652
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: most important signing because it was at Hudson just because

653
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: that was a major knee was a lot because he

654
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: can rush the pass and he's going to help and

655
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: rush defense. Is Matt Prayer an underrated signing because special

656
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: teams was an issue to cost some games last year.

657
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy's going to fill a role if he has

658
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: to play. But the fact is, I mean, you needed

659
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: a number one corner and they don't grow on trees.

660
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: And we know last cheer Jeffakuda and the Henderson kid

661
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: from the Falcons they kind of struggle early on, So

662
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: again you got to give them credit. They were patient.

663
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: They weren't going to pay twelve million for a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver they got They got aj Green about five to six.

665
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: They weren't going to pay twelve million to ten million

666
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: for a corner. So they did a good job with

667
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the cap. And I'm glad these guys are excited to

668
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: be here because you could tell they feel like this

669
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: team is on the rise. That's the impression I get.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it could be another debate this as

671
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Speaker 1: far as making an argument for the best signing acquisition.

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: Reason the acquisition is because of the trade. Yeah, and

673
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: you can make a case for any number of those

674
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: players that you just named, And maybe we'll do that

675
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Speaker 1: on a future episode of Cardinals. Cover Too presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. One other note on

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00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: bother you mentioned undrafted. Not only that, but he made

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Speaker 1: the Patriots after an invitation to attend the team's rookie

679
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: any camp. He wasn't signed immediately after the draft. He

680
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: was invited to mini camp rookie mini camp, and that

681
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: makes his road to the NFL even more impressive because

682
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: it's not like you were drafted or you were signed

683
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Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent, No, you were invited, and

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Speaker 1: how many times do those invitees to rookie mini camp

685
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Speaker 1: actually get signed, let alone make the team, let alone

686
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: now entering your eighth season in the league. Well, a

687
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: lot of times do you have your draft class and

688
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: sometimes it could be five to seven or eight, and

689
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: then you go after undrafted free agent and these guys

690
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: get like five, ten, fifteen thousand undrafted free agents. I mean,

691
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: if you don't make it through the first usually have

692
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: two practices on Friday, two on Sunday, and then one

693
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Speaker 1: two on Saturday and one on Sunday. If you don't

694
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: look good in the first workout, they don't invite you back.

695
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: And what happens is because we've been on the field

696
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: for those luckily and unfortunately over you know, a while back,

697
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: but you could see the outs go talk to the

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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: player before when he's coming out for Philly. We went

699
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: off to a contract, so he must have shown enough

700
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: to where they probably thought we drafted a corner in

701
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: the fourth round and this guy is a trialut player

702
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: and we think he's got more upside. And that's how

703
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: it works. You get an opportunity and that's all you

704
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: can ask for in life. Yeah, we talk about the

705
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: undrafted Dennis gardeck Ezekiel Turner, Trent Sherfield when he was here.

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Speaker 1: But then you have the other category, and that is

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Speaker 1: attending rookie mini camp and trying to make the team.

708
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: So that's I think that's another story that needs to

709
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: really be applotted for Malcolm Butler to be able to

710
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: not only make the team, but I last as long

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Speaker 1: as he has here in the National Football League. Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: your phone as Cardinals dot Com Slash podcast. For more information, Greig,

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Speaker 1: maybe next week we got some different rule proposals. We'll

721
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Speaker 1: get into some of that because a lot of it's

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Speaker 1: just you know, a team can put it in a proposal,

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Speaker 1: but then you need twenty four or thirty two votes.

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Speaker 1: But I do like one proposal. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: it was, eliminate overtime in the preseason, thank you. I

726
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: did see that, and it kind of took me back

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00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: because I was wondering. He's like, well, why do you

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00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: even go into overtime in the preseason why? Usually, yeah,

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00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: you hope the coach would kick a field goal or

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Speaker 1: go for two, and a lot of times they do.

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Speaker 1: They'll sit there and go for two, as opposed to

732
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, hey, let's let's go

733
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Speaker 1: for another ten minutes or you know, sudden no no, no,

734
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Speaker 1: no overtime the preseason. Yeah, it didn't mean to step

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Speaker 1: on I think honestly, before the preseason game, there's a

736
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Speaker 1: there's a gentleman's agreement at midfield we're not going into overtime.

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Speaker 1: I like that gentleman's agreement. Speaking of the owners meetings

738
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Speaker 1: this week, virtually, of course it is now official, and

739
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, we knew it was going to happen, and

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Speaker 1: now it's been rubber stamped. A seventeen game regular season.

741
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Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell called it a monumental moment in NFL history.

742
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Speaker 1: So now instead of sixteen games, seventeen games, So what

743
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: is that seventeenth game for the Cardinals. The NFC West

744
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: will play at the AFC North, where you're where you finished.

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00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: So the Cardinals finished third, So the third place finisher

746
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: the AFC North the Cleveland Browns. So in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals will play at the Cleveland Browns. At some

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Speaker 1: point we'll get the schedule later on, but at some

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: point the Cardinals will have another road game. They'll have

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00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: nine road games in twenty twenty one. Two years ago,

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00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: they beat the Browns at State Farms, stating him. So

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00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: the Cardinals we get that Kyler Murray Baker Mayfield matchup.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun to cover the first

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Speaker 1: time around, and I think a lot of people are

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00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: looking forward to the rematch, if you will, Murray Mayfield

756
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Speaker 1: Part two. Kyler was almost giddy after that game. He well, yeah,

757
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: because he won. You know, I just hope when the

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Speaker 1: schedule comes out it's not in December now. Usually they

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Speaker 1: you know, the NFL wants to have you know, head

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Speaker 1: to head and flexion games, so you usually have a

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Speaker 1: conference game in week sixteen or division games in week

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Speaker 1: sixteen to seventeen. In other words, teams. You're chased seeing

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00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: jockey for physicians sitting wise, but I just hope that

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Speaker 1: that game is not early December. Yes, you're gonna have

765
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: to play outdoors at some point, but you know, you

766
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: just you just want to avoid the weather. But we

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Speaker 1: can't control that. A matter of fact, a couple of

768
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: years ago, when that Packer schedule came out and he said,

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Speaker 1: oh man, they got no chance Aaron Rodgers in the

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Speaker 1: month of December, and Josh Rosen was the quarterback that

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: won that game, and that night they fired Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals now playing seven teams eight games, or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: seven teams nine games against opponents that made the postseason

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: a year ago. With the addition of the Browns on

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00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the roster, you got the Rams Seahawks two games each

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Speaker 1: against those two opponents Packers, Bears, Colts, and Titans. And

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00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: then I saw this interesting on NFL dot Com. When

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Speaker 1: you look at strength of schedule now updated Cardinals schedule

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Speaker 1: ranks thirteenth hardest, tied for the thirteenth hardest schedule in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Opponents last year went one thirty eight

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Speaker 1: and one thirty four. By comparison, the Rams have the

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Speaker 1: tenth toughest schedule, Seahawks tied for the eleventh, forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers tied for nineteenth. Okay, I mean that's not bad,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, Craig, they will face

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: a lot better quarterbacks this year than they did last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Rodgers, You've got Baker Mayfield perhaps to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. We don't know what's going on over there.

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Speaker 1: You get Carson Wentz in Indianapolis, so Jared Goff. We

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Speaker 1: still get Jared Goff though in Detroit, Trevor Lawrence with

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Speaker 1: the Jarny got Matthew Stafford twice a year. Now. Yeah,

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00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: you still got Russell Wilson. And you know they were

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00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: twelve and four last year. So yeah, again, we don't

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00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: know because of injuries, but on paper they will face

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00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: much better quarterbacks than they did last year. And don't

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Speaker 1: forget Dak Prescott as well. The Cowboys are on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: and by all accounts, Stack is doing very well in

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00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: his rehab. So Ryan Tannehill. As I look now at

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Speaker 1: the opponent's home and away, it's you bring that up,

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Speaker 1: and I just keep rattling off one quarterback after another year. Yeah,

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00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: this is this is a tough schedule on paper, and

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00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: we know what happens on paper. But yeah, to your point,

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00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: this is depending on how it all lines up. Hopefully

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: you don't have like a murderers row if you will

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00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: have four or five weeks in a row, but maybe

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00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: that keeps the players honest and keeps them motivated for

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00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: and of course in the entire season. Well, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo when he's healthy, he's got a good win

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: the lost record, but the Cardinals win there and then

809
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: he come back and play last year Dwayne Haskins that

810
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: you're off to an old start and then you lose

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Speaker 1: it as staff for it, and then you lose the

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and yeah, don't bring up that Lions game

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00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: last year. That's but then but then you know, you

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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: lose the ta okay, and he was making his first

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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: road start, and then the Josh Allen game. Luckily, you know,

816
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: hop was able to out jump three guys and Murray

817
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: made the great throw. So yeah, it's just we don't know.

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00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: But the fact is just on paper, they are going

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Speaker 1: to play a better rotation of quarterbacks in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Season will begin Thursday, September ninth. It will end the

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Speaker 1: regular season Sunday, January ninth. The Super Bowl will be

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Speaker 1: played on February thirteenth a SOFI Stadium in La good

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Speaker 1: News Commissioner Goodell says, quote, we expect to have full

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Speaker 1: stadiums in the twenty twenty one season, and then starting

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, every team will play an international

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Speaker 1: home game at least once every eight years. Now, for

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they are owed an international game. They had

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Speaker 1: the game on Mexico City on the schedule last year

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00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: that had to be canceled. Cardinals, though, will play that game,

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Speaker 1: maybe as soon as this season or next season because

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Speaker 1: they're hosting the Super Bowl in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But after that that requirement is done as far as

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Speaker 1: you have to play a quote international game in order

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Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl host. Now they're just going

835
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Speaker 1: to make it every team over the course of eight years,

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Speaker 1: at least once you'll have a quote unquote home game overseas.

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Speaker 1: You know, the only team that hasn't played in London

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Speaker 1: yet Dallas Packers. Packers. Okay, that's surprising because I would

839
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Speaker 1: figure those teams, you know that have the long history

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00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: of Cowboys of Bearers of Packers, that there would be

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00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: a market, a fan base in London and overseas. But

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00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: that's that's interesting. Now. Rich Eisen went through his sneaky

843
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: top four games Chiefs, Packers, which we thought we might

844
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Speaker 1: have gotten in a super Bowl once upon a time,

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00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: but now we'll get in the regular season. He had

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Speaker 1: Cardinals number one, Cardinals, Browns. You know what's interesting, The

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Speaker 1: Problems finished in third place. Wow, because Baltimore made a

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Speaker 1: run at the end, right, and then Pittsburgh obviously got

849
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: off to a good start. Yeah. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: will say the NFC West was the best division of

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00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: football last year. I gotta think it was the North. Well,

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Speaker 1: a third place finished here with eleven wins. I mean,

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00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: that's that tells you how tough that division was, right there.

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Speaker 1: Eleven wins wins most divisions. Not a third place finish

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Speaker 1: and you become a wild card team or you're hoping

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00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: for something to happen those last two weeks so you

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Speaker 1: have a chance to get into the postseason. You finished

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00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: with eleven wins, you better get into the postseason. Yeah. So,

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00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: and it goes year to year. A lot of it's

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00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: based on the quarterbacks, and now you had Stafford and

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00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: we know Kyler Murray's you know, on the rise. Hopefully

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00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: you can take that next step, whether it's you know,

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00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: hopefully this year, but you know, we got to look

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00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: a big picture. You just got to make progress every

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00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: single year, get better and then you know, I think

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Speaker 1: we'll see a new quarterback in San Francisco next year,

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Speaker 1: and then we couldn't see a new quarterback in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I think people are you know, surprised that you know,

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00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take the Bears offer, but they would take

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00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: a thirty nine million dollar cap hit. So clearly he's

871
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: not happy there, and you know, if they make another run,

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00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: maybe they can convince him. But I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on roster. So we could have Stafford's under contract,

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00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: they could extend him. Murray will be under contract, they

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Speaker 1: could extend him, and then you're probably gonna have mac

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00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: Jones or Trey Lance or Justin Fields and then Seattle

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00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: what do they do. So we're going to see the

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00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: changing of the guard, but I don't think it happens

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00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: this season. I think it's more next offseason. One other

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Speaker 1: note coming out of the league meetings this week and

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Speaker 1: fingers crossed that this does happen. Offseason work begins April

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Speaker 1: nineteenth for all thirty two teams. Meetings will be held virtually.

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Speaker 1: Though there is hope on the league side that there

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00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: will be some on field work this summer. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to wait and see if that happens. But I am

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00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: of the opinion that you would like to see the rookies,

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00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: maybe some first, second, third year players get some work. Again,

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00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: it's all voluntary, but at least give players that want

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00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: to that option. And if you don't because of the

890
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: success of a year ago, that's fine. But I do

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00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: think several players, several teams missed out on having that

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00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: on field work last offseason. If you're a fringe player,

893
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's voluntary, but it's a job, interview,

894
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity. So yeah, I mean, I just you know,

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00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: I think three preseason games maybe won too much, but

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00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, these guys need to play, Like I want

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00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: to see Isaiah Simmons playing a preseason game. I want

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00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: to see Chris Straveler playing a preseason game. I want

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Speaker 1: to see, you know, Andy Isabella gets some reps against

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: a good defense, you know, getting off press covers getting

901
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: in separation. So I hope at some point in time,

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00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: when everyone gets vaccinated, that they can do something. I

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00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: know that JC Treder said, we like to have the

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Speaker 1: same offseason as last year. From an organizational standpoint, No,

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00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: and I get it. It's about players safety. But at

906
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: the same time, these guys got to get better by

907
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: getting reps, just reps, reps, reps, and the veterans aren't around,

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00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: so you don't you're not you're not afraid to make

909
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: a mistake, and when the coaches going on the field,

910
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: they can coach you up. So I hope it all

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00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: works out. But I do think the pandemic and the

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Speaker 1: vaccination is going to be something that I think people

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Speaker 1: we'll start to say, hey, we can have maybe not

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Speaker 1: ninety guys together or fifty five, but we'll have a

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Speaker 1: couple of different groups so we can get on the field.

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Speaker 1: Only way you're gonna get better as being on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fingers crossed. Will pay attention to that storyline as we

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Speaker 1: get closer and closer to that off season. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, let's put a lid on this edition of

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amhndro

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Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki, I'm Greig Railu, Bird Gang and our

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Speaker 1: baseball fans. That'll be Opening Day. We'll talk to you

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