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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 1: Matt it's a Friday. Uh. The Steelers did not have

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Speaker 1: any zoom interviews today, made nobody available, so we can

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Speaker 1: now assume that all of the exit interviews are finished

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Speaker 1: and uh completed over on the south side, and um,

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Speaker 1: well we're moving into uh off season uh off season

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Speaker 1: mode here completely. I would imagine now, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the next few days, probably not this weekend, but

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Speaker 1: early next week Mike Tomlin will start having his meetings

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Speaker 1: with his staff and we get I could get some

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Speaker 1: news coming out of those meetings as well. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, we're in a new studio today. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking here at this there's a little picture of a

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Speaker 1: to be there. I thought the same thing. I almost

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Speaker 1: and a lounge chair. Actually, I don't even know some

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Speaker 1: need the chair, lay there like a snake. It's lovely.

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Speaker 1: It is lovely. Did catch my eye as well. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: a little nicer than it is in town at the moment,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it was fourteen degrees this morning

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Speaker 1: when I was getting my card. I just it's way

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Speaker 1: too cold. Yeah, way too cold. Um, but the mock

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Speaker 1: draft season is starting to heat. Yeah. Absolutely, some other

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Speaker 1: other people are spoken for, you know, some other shots

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Speaker 1: fired here on some of these some new news you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some or some new viewpoints of how the first

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Speaker 1: round might go. And yeah, it was fun. It's just

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Speaker 1: a good way to learn these players. Absolutely, And I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get to one that dropped today that Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jarre Maya did his first mock on NFL dot com. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I always prefaces by kind of introducing who did it?

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Speaker 1: And Daniel actually when I got let go from the Browns,

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Speaker 1: he came in so he from the Ravens with Phil Savage.

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Speaker 1: He's an extensive scouting background. Him and Bucky Brooks, who's

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Speaker 1: also a former scout have a good podcast now does

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Speaker 1: the game day stuff for the Chargers. Yeah, and say

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Speaker 1: he's a color guy for the Chargers as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he's also dialed in in the league, so he

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Speaker 1: has a lot of his own thoughts through his scouting

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Speaker 1: eye mixed with what people tell him. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: good source. Uh, so we'll get we'll jump right into

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Speaker 1: this one. Um. Of course, the final eight spots will

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Speaker 1: be decided by this weekend's games. Yeah, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: those games in the next segment. But his first pick,

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Speaker 1: he's got a little different look at this as well.

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Speaker 1: He's got the Jaguars at one, taking Evan Neil, the

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Speaker 1: Let's just do everything to make Lawrence's life as easy

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Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, we're probably not winning the Super

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Speaker 1: number ten should be let's turn Lawrence into a star,

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Speaker 1: whatever that means. If if there was a Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson the ad dresser ad of Michigan for the Lions,

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Speaker 1: either Thibodeau or Hutchinson would fall to them at two.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Hutchison being a Michigan guy matters to them?

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Speaker 1: I actually almost brought that up because he's from the area.

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Speaker 1: taking Kenny Pickett. Okay, so he must think Pickets is one.

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Speaker 1: Newton went one overall. That wasn't a mistake. But the

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Speaker 1: The Vikings then take Derek Stingley. I would think they'd

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Speaker 1: a lot of high picks on corners and getting nothing

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Speaker 1: He's six nine six nine three eight and not you know, disgusting.

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Speaker 1: He can move. I mean he's a raw player. He's

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Speaker 1: kind of like backed in a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Just a massive human beings that like the sixth or

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Speaker 1: seventh tackles. That is the sixth tackle Okay, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: sounds about right. Who the wod he end up with?

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Speaker 1: He ended up with Miami very much. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: pick they got through that makes sense, more sense than

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Speaker 1: any of the other Dolphins picks we've seen the other moms.

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Speaker 1: The other ones have been linebackers and receivers and stuff. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, the Bills then take Kyler Gordon, the cornerback,

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Speaker 1: the other corner, the other corner at of Washington. It

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Speaker 1: must have been terrible to throw against the two first

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Speaker 1: round corners. I think corners are most likely spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Titans, and at twenty eight take Kay Walker, the

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Speaker 1: linebacker at of Georgia. Okay, I think Evans is up

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Speaker 1: after this year. They did pick up Cunningham though, and

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Speaker 1: his contract. They're kind of a hard team to pick.

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Speaker 1: But I think i'd take the best receiver on the board. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not kinding on Julio. I'm not counting on I'd

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Speaker 1: even considered the top tight end. Yeah, even quarterback back. No,

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Speaker 1: he's not there. L was already gone. Yeah, Okay. At nine,

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Speaker 1: we do have our second or another quarterback take and

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Speaker 1: this would the third of the first round. Okay, we'd

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Speaker 1: pick it in korne so far, the Detroit Lions take

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis. See that makes a ton of sense, Like

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna take one at two or three or

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Speaker 1: wherever they put two. But at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first round with the fifth year option, you know, grab

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Speaker 1: one that's a developmental player that doesn't need to play

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Speaker 1: at all this year, truly red shirt him or play

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Speaker 1: in the last month when you're you know, one and ten.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. And thirty the Chiefs take

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, why receiver out of Alabama. He's We've talked

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Speaker 1: about him a lot. That would be awful for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the Yeah, right, because he's probably the number

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Speaker 1: one receiver if it's not for injury. But this is

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Speaker 1: a third mock in a road that he's gone in

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Speaker 1: the first round still, but ten picks later than he

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Speaker 1: would have or fifteen picks later than he would have. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be scary. Um. At thirty one, the Bucks

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Speaker 1: take Johan Dotson, the wide receiver at of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: I guess receiver makes sense for them, especially if Godwin leaves.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's isn't young. I don't think they can afford to

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Speaker 1: bring Goblin back. Yeah, I can. Center back would bake

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Speaker 1: some sense to for them if they you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they drafted Trash last year, but I think

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Speaker 1: he's a lifetime back up. Yeah, that makes receiver. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be terrible pick for them. And then at thirty two

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Speaker 1: of the Packers take Devonte Wyatt, the defensive tackle at

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Speaker 1: a Georgia. It's a bunch of Georgia defenders going in

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Speaker 1: that first round. He's the other d tackle, but he's

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Speaker 1: more of an upfield guy. He's also a big body, dude.

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Speaker 1: Um do they list his height and weight? I think

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Speaker 1: he's like six six. He's big too, not as big

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Speaker 1: as I'm just thinking. Could he be in play at

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Speaker 1: twenty It seems a little early for him. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Bob was talking even about I'm getting a big defensive

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Speaker 1: linement no matter what type of situation. Why it's I'd

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Speaker 1: rarely get one of those middle realm type guys than

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Speaker 1: another another developmental guy that doesn't need you know, you're

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Speaker 1: not because he's not gonna play right away. The other

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Speaker 1: d tackle name I need to dig into is Yukon

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Speaker 1: as a guy in Sam Jones, who's also six five

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Speaker 1: three forty in that neighborhood, to that maybe he's a

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Speaker 1: Steeler second round guy. And and when not when when

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Speaker 1: I say things like knows I'm not talking about Hampton

489
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Speaker 1: will Fork, I mean we're talking you know, hopefully the Heloti,

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Speaker 1: Hilary Nada types. You know that a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: somebody I need to dig into. He's been second third

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Speaker 1: on the defensive tackle lists i've seen. Um, it does

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Speaker 1: not look like a very good defensive tackle draft in

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Speaker 1: general though, no, especially it's not great. Um. The one

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Speaker 1: that there's there's a couple of guys there that that

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Speaker 1: I've kind of been a little bit intrigued with. I

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Speaker 1: want to learn some more about. Um kid out of Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's an Alabama guy there, Fidarium Mathis I think is

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Speaker 1: I've seen the name. He's got the classic size that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers look for. Uh. And then Christopher Hinton out

501
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: of Michigan kind name rings of belts because his dad

502
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Speaker 1: was a former first round draft pick traded for Elway.

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Speaker 1: Rated for John Elway six six four or three ten.

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Speaker 1: How much. Mike Tomlin likes the bloodlines. Yeah, right right,

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Speaker 1: if you're talking like day two in that neighborhood's connection

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Speaker 1: six four three ten, he's he's almost he looks if

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Speaker 1: when you see him in uniform, like a young Tyson

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Speaker 1: and Lululu, that kind of build like yeah, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: as an anchor ish type build but not you know,

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Speaker 1: but has a little bit of juice and you know, interesting,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to learn about him. And his dad was

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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, dad was really good. That really seems

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Speaker 1: like a Steeler doesn't Michigan with bloodlines, and it checks

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Speaker 1: a couple of bocks, and it checks off a couple

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Speaker 1: of the boxes. That always gets my radar, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything if he's good or not, but I

517
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Speaker 1: bet I've seen him play a couple of times and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, all right, but yeah, So that's Arry

519
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's first try at the mock draft. That's three

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Speaker 1: mock drafts now we've seen from from the national guys

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Speaker 1: this week. They'll be more coming out Senior Bowl week

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Speaker 1: after the Senior Bowl practices. Uh, and then draft order

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Speaker 1: gets said even more on Monday. You know, things are

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Speaker 1: starting to take a little bit more shape when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the draft, and then soon after that we

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Speaker 1: might see some I don't I'm not predicting it, but

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Speaker 1: a team could trade picks for Russell Wilson or something too.

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Speaker 1: Something could happened. There's a lot of stuff on the

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Speaker 1: horizon that changes. Yeah. Really, if you start looking at

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Speaker 1: the middle of March show when free agency starts, isn't

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Speaker 1: that far away far away at all? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: you're talking about seven weeks. Senior Bowl is gonna be

533
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Speaker 1: a lot going on to and draft season's chatting with

534
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Speaker 1: and some teams still have to make GM HighRes. Things

535
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: have been slower this year. There haven't been the knee

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Speaker 1: jerk reactions in that. I don't. We have a ton

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Speaker 1: of time to talk. Let's talk about that in the

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Speaker 1: next Let's do I think there's a reason for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so as well. We'll get to that when

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Speaker 1: we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally.

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