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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolley here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt I'm looking here at the story

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Speaker 1: that's on the ESPN dot com. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: the French thing is going on here. That another The

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Speaker 1: next story on here is is Mac Jones the Patriots

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Speaker 1: next Tom Brady unless they take him in the sixth

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Speaker 1: round and he goes and wins set you know, seven

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Speaker 1: super Bowls. He's not all right, nobody's next to all Brady.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's ridiculous. That kind of stuff is crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting conversation to me, with everything that's happened.

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Speaker 1: They may have to settle for we take Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: a fifteen or we don't take quarterback? Right? Did they

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Speaker 1: want an athlete like cam or do they look at

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones and say we'll try to run the Brady

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Speaker 1: offense like him, you know? Or do they take you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll just take Kyle Trash in the third round, right,

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Speaker 1: or Jamie Newman one of those guys somebody like that too,

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Speaker 1: or worry about it next year or whatever. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: real curious what they think of Mac Jones. But I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure Bill Belichick doesn't think he's gonna win seven

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Speaker 1: trade super Bowls with him because he's done Brady, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Just because just because they play

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Speaker 1: a similar style. Yeah. But the story that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: here is by Tom mcshaye and John Yeah. I looked

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Speaker 1: at that too. I'm gonna read it this afternoon. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and they're comparing the third top thirteen quarterbacks in this

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Speaker 1: draft how they play under pressure, their deep ball, their accuracy,

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Speaker 1: their pocket presence in their out route. Me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I think the kind of the preface of the

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Speaker 1: story is Todd is the tape guy. John is the

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Speaker 1: stats dude. Up you know, like these are the numbers

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Speaker 1: verse your eyeballs. Yeah, so, uh, who can expend extend

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Speaker 1: plays under duress is the first? The first Wilson on

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Speaker 1: that one they have, Mac Jones is number one. Matt

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Speaker 1: Jones total total QBR raising just by QBR when pressured

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Speaker 1: was seventy eight point three. Well again he was throwing

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Speaker 1: to you know, six NFL guys and say, buying a

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Speaker 1: Also bet that he was not pressured nearly as much

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Speaker 1: argument that the people chasing Wilson weren't as good as

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Speaker 1: the SEC people chasing Jones. I hear that, but he

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Speaker 1: also he also had a bunch of you know, I

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Speaker 1: do think he's good at though of confined pocket movement,

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Speaker 1: them buying time, feeling the pressure Brady kind of things.

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Speaker 1: You know. So the total QBR when pressure, Matt Jones

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Speaker 1: a huge chasm there. Jones QBR when pressure was seventy

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Speaker 1: eight point three, Wilson was forty four. Third on the

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Speaker 1: list is actually Cal Trask at thirty seven point five.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was fourth. Lawrence wasn't great at it Ian

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Speaker 1: book fifth, Davis Mills uh was sixth. Jamie Newman like

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Speaker 1: Mills ran like a four seven Mills is gonna be

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Speaker 1: picked on day two. I bet yeah, many Steeler fans

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Speaker 1: kind of dis liked about that. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get him in the sixth round. Jamie Newman, then

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Kellen Mond, Sam Eislinger, uh Felippe A. Franks.

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Speaker 1: He's a physical freak too. Yeah. I don't know much

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Speaker 1: he's an athlete to pick him in the seventh round

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Speaker 1: Not a huge chasm in this one though, over Wilson

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Speaker 1: Book was actually very good at that eighty two point four.

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Speaker 1: I think Book might be Colt McCoy. Yeah, that someone

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is great again throwing the NFL guys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: They're still Clemson. Yeah, you know, you know, he don't

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Speaker 1: over the past thirteen starts, Jones completion percentage sixty point

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Speaker 1: things about Jones, but he had a Burrow like year.

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Speaker 1: mean the numbers. But again, he's in a good situation,

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Speaker 1: the next one off target percentage, she's a throws that

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Speaker 1: question Newman at thirty three point eight, Lance at thirty

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Speaker 1: usually translate to a good deep ball. Now, the average

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Speaker 1: fewer down field off off target. Jones was three point

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Speaker 1: Trask was at five five point five percent, Buchelle at

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Speaker 1: ain't his bag? Yeah, and then Newman at nine point three.

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Speaker 1: The average on that one is five point seven. So

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Speaker 1: Trask is a little above average on that. Just to

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Speaker 1: be accurate within ten yards. Yeah, this is a tough

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Speaker 1: So eleven to twenty yards down the field, Fields was

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Speaker 1: number one at six point nine percent. That's that's pretty impressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: book at twenty one point four, Lance dead Last at

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Speaker 1: The average on that is sixteen point seven. So you're

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Speaker 1: looking at Newman being slightly above average at sixteen point four.

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Speaker 1: who if you're putting the chip down, who's the sixth

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Speaker 1: Shaka Tony probably in a third or fourth round. Before yesterday,

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Speaker 1: But I wondering how people people that opt out of

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Speaker 1: Pro day stuff, you know how much? Yeah, he's coming

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Speaker 1: back off of a back surgery. Yeah, but six five

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Speaker 1: to fifty one. He had thirty two and arms Yeah,

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Speaker 1: prod numbers across the board or a ball. Yeah. Um

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore yesterday, Yeah how about that. Yeah, he's only

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Speaker 1: five nine seventy eight, but he ran a four three five.

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Speaker 1: Uh he had a had a short shuttle of four flat.

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Speaker 1: That's ninety six percent His three comb was six six six,

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Speaker 1: that's ninety three percentile. Yeah, devilish. Jalen Darden was another one.

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Speaker 1: Did you see his number? Yeah, I was actually slightly disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Five eight one seventy four is a little, a little

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Speaker 1: on the short side. But thirty six looks like thirty

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Speaker 1: six in vertical um force four six, which is okay.

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Speaker 1: But I thought he might be a four three flat

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Speaker 1: guy though. Uh three eight though in the short shuttle

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Speaker 1: ninety seven percentile. Uh six comb was again six six six.

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Speaker 1: Uh that was pent all. So he's again there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of those little guys in this draft. More Espridget

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Speaker 1: was another one who really lit it up. Uh. These little,

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Speaker 1: these little wide receivers who are jitterbugs lots, but they're

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Speaker 1: not welcome. Welker Ammon Dola. Yeah, they can run, they

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Speaker 1: can give vertically. Yeah. I mean that's a Tyreek Hills

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Speaker 1: us out of this a lot, a lot. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of these guys are in

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Speaker 1: jet motion. That's basically what these I mean, five eight,

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Speaker 1: one seventy four is not all that different from Tyreekills,

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Speaker 1: not at all. I mean that's like the comparing anyone

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Speaker 1: to Tyreek Hills not fair. But it's the same mold.

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Speaker 1: There's five or six of them in this draft, more

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Speaker 1: and more in screage, you know that are going to

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Speaker 1: be used that way. I don't know. Maybe given his numbers,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's the biggest of this group at

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Speaker 1: five nine one seventy eight. I think more Elijah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Elijah more. I think he might end up going in

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first round. I think the

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Speaker 1: other guys are all second and third round picks. The first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's he's the he's the best little guy

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Speaker 1: because the tight matches in Obama. I think they're a

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Speaker 1: little different. Although masstilous from our buddy Greg Cosell. He

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Speaker 1: loves Darden and I've heard him say I was watching

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Speaker 1: Darden the whole time thinking what if I put Darden

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Speaker 1: in Waddles position, But every in the world think he's

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Speaker 1: the first round pick probably would the same. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's the same Aria. I mean, you can have that

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Speaker 1: argument with a lot of guys, a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: But I just thought that yesterday's pro days were interesting.

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Speaker 1: It was a big it was a big number of

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Speaker 1: pro days, and once again everybody jumps on the well

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colver at the Penn State Pro Day,

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Speaker 1: Well they go every year, they go every year. And

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Speaker 1: it's also you know when you look at some of

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Speaker 1: the other pro days yesterday, are they're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: North Texas? I mean, m Mississippi's you know, has a

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Speaker 1: has a nice pro you know, they get some guys

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Speaker 1: three or four. You know, Penn State had eight. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a big difference and better chance to Steelers end

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Speaker 1: up with the Penn State player than there's other schools. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just because because there's more pros and they're asking about

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Speaker 1: next year's crop. And you know, I'm sure they know

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Speaker 1: people there at all schools, but Penn State I bet

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Speaker 1: they have a better connection with two. Yeah. So anyways,

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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm dale Ally you're listening to

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