WEBVTT - Episode 281 w/ Nick Cannon 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.679 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:17.360 and I Heart Radio and his Drinks Has motherfucking podcast. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:21.880 Mason He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segreed is your 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.320 boy in O R He's a Miami hip hop and 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.800 lioneer up his DJ e f N. Together they drink 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.400 it up with some of the biggest players in the 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:35.000 most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.440 drunk Fast Drink has Motherfuckings New year Z Just time 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:49.559 for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuck what it could be over? 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.879 They just want to see your boy in What up 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.080 is d J E F And this drinks as motherfucker 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.040 right now. When it comes to legends, when it comes 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.920 to entrepreneurs, I kid you not, I promise you I'm 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:11.360 not see fool y'alla. I'm not even exaggerating a little bit. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.280 I literally just came from Turks and Caickos and they 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.039 had something called every channel that you had, they had 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.920 that version of the Caribbean and everywhere I look wild 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:30.720 and out. You know, I'm changing different channel. I'm trying 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.360 to avoid wild. So I'm sitting back, I'm saying I 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.840 know I know this season. I know this season, and 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:42.479 and it's every rewhere and they've realized. I said, Holy moly, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.880 brocome moly, how proud I am of this next guest. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:52.000 Not only that the man has done dominated a rap career, 0:01:54.720 --> 0:02:02.960 dominated a movie career, continue use to dominate in every 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.320 section that you can imagine. The nicker was on the 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.760 mask singles one of them, I don't even know this 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:18.240 spight ship. This ship is crazy. In case you don't 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.880 know the funk I'm talking about, we're talking about the 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:30.200 impeccable duck Duck. They do everything lick motherfucker cat. But yeah, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.320 I appreciate you, my brother. No, not real talk, real talk, bro, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.160 you really are the renaissance man. I totally forgot to 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:43.280 mention radio. So what the funk makes you wake up? 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.600 Like that? Everything? Like why you don't slow down a 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.840 little bit a little bit? Man? I just should have 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.799 gotta keeps cooking while the pot is hot, Like when 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.840 you come from a hustling spirit, you just gotta get 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.400 in there and like, yo, they're gonna keep giving me 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.639 these opportunities. I'm gonna keep snatching it. And then it's 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.960 you know, I've been through my ship to where people 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.880 like you want to cancel you out and all of that. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.480 So then not I'm committing, but I'm not even talking 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.640 about that ship. I'm talking about even just all my 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:12.160 life wild jump in. I'm going about cancel coach can 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.200 general in general. Like point I was worrying, No, no, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.400 but that's the thing you gotta always say tough. You know, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.600 tough times don't last. Tough people. Do you know what 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.320 I'm saying. It's like I'm built for for the tough ship. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.680 The thing about you what immediately was I was glad 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.200 you understood this is why we don't talk politics on 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.080 this show. Yeah, well we do, but we we also 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.440 also we also like we were super disclaimer. We don't 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.520 know what ship, right, we see that right. But what's 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.280 good about you was when you felt like you was 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:51.480 naive to the situation, you admitted that to be No, absolutely, absolutely, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.160 And it was I say, you know, even because I 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.240 was coming from my podcast, which is an educational platform 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.120 that I started at Howard University, Appreciate You, and it 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.720 was like really just bringing in professors and different people, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.280 like on topics that we discussed multiple topics, so it 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.560 came from a place of education so if I was 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.520 miseducated in any form, hey, let's talk about it. Let's 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.320 figure it out. I only want to spit truth. I mean, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.600 the Minister said so many things that resonated with me 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.280 when I got a chance to sit down with him 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.200 all this, but the one thing that he said the 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.120 most that stuck with me. He was like, I don't 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.680 never want to say anything that isn't true. I don't 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.120 want falsehoods to come out of my mouth. So if 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.320 I'm saying something that isn't correct, first of all, yeah, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.800 I apologize, but show me, show me where what I 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.080 because I believe what I said is the truth. And 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.440 so where you get to that point, it's a it's 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.800 a really an opportunity for education. And I always say 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.280 it ain't about can just about council culture. Show somebody 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.920 where you believe. If you're from a different community and 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.920 y'all have disagreements, let's talk it out like otherwise. But 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.400 just trying to get rid of a nigg Like who 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.760 are you to try to get rid of anybody? So 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.720 that's husy you and I go back to even whether 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.320 it's that situation and I told you, you know, I'm 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.000 on talk show now I was like, I don't know, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.280 I'm gonna get canceled again. But it ain't. It's never 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.520 coming from a place in malice. Like when how y'all 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.560 sitting bill here, ain't nobody really charging on nobody in 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.920 a way with with discontent and hate. It's like, Yo, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.000 sometimes we're gonna say some ship because we're joking and 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.960 it's funny. Sometimes we're gonna say some ship because we 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.400 just literally don't know and we need to be educated. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.000 But I don't think even what we're trying to accomplish 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.360 this specifically, even what's going on in hip hop right now, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.760 we're just trying to evolve. We're trying to grow, you 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.320 know what I mean. We went from calling each other 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.599 niggas every day and now we're calling each other's kings, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.000 you know what I mean. Like, that's that's real talk. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.840 You see, that's the new ship. Because you don't know that. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.680 You take that like like we say drunk facts on 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.760 here just to to to make you know, an excuse, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.119 but to say that we're not gonna always be talking 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.920 with shooting the ship like you're talking to your homies. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.599 You're not gonna always be a fact check on what 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.760 you're saying. And that's the thing because now we live 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.599 in a day and age where media is at everyone's fingertips. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.359 So just as you're talking ship, somebody can disagree with 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.680 this ship you're talking. And now y'all don't win viral 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.599 because this side believes this and this side believes that. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.360 So you know, there's a there's a different responsibility for 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.760 this generation. But again, we can't be don't nobody know everything? 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.599 Like And that's kind of where I come from a 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.640 place when with all of this and even now having 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.719 my own platform, I always say, man, you can learn 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.120 so much more from listening. So in that, in that scenario, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.799 I want y'all do it beautifully, like y'all get cats 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.600 up here talking mad hours and just like this is 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.320 real ship. The reason why I want to ask you 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:44.960 this question, I don't notice answer the week you went 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:50.520 through what you went through. Glad TV quoted the minister 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.360 who that was heavy. It was a big mistake, made 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.440 a big mistake. He didn't get canceled. He got but 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:03.720 he got it looked the other way but not canceled. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.560 You know what it is. I want you to fully 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.440 understand what I'm like. He people said ah, cool, But 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.600 there was nothing saying cancel, there's no more for black. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.760 Why what was the difference between yours and black? Honestly, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.080 it's the people with the power in that sense of 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:31.280 like the idea of when our community comes together and 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.080 say we're not messing with something, we gotta stand firm 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.480 on what where our power lies. If it's our power influence, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.560 if it's our power numbers, if it's our empower, and 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.680 as curators, that community can say no, that's not cool, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.640 no more. Where there's other communities where if actually the people, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.040 whether whoever it is, if if it's your employer, if 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.720 it's someone, if it's the status quo, if it's the government, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:08:00.200 if it's the mob rule mentality, if someone says we 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.280 gotta take that person's job from them, no, we have 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.920 to take that. And that's where and that's why my 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.840 issue would cancel culture altogether, because sometimes we get people 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.680 who have strong opinions and then you get some people 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:19.080 who just got strong pockets. Yeah, yeah, you gotta really 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.920 like even when you think about like, are we here 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.120 to truly punish people? Are we actually here for real repentance? 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.760 You know what I mean? Are you really trying to help. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.200 Are you trying to go grow? Are you trying to 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.000 are you just trying to teach a lesson? Are you 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.760 trying to make an example out of somebody? That I 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.360 think that's dangerous, And that's when that's why we have 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.320 the culture of the penitentiaries now, Like if you even 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.760 think about the word penitentiaries is the root of it 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.080 is repentant to actually or even penance in that sense 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.240 to where you're supposed to heal, You're supposed you supposed 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.560 to go to these places to become better, not just 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.480 using for storages to lock niggers up. So I think 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.480 in that mentality, just see whether it's America just even 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.959 a culture that we operated now they think teaching somebody 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.000 a lesson or punishment is the right way. But if 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.280 you really trying to heal, you're trying to reconcile, you're 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.480 trying to you're trying to atone and exactly so I think, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.480 you know, it's just really us taking it our ours 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.360 is like a small glimpse and not even a real 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.800 problem because a rich person lost their job or somebody, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.120 you know, Like, but when you really think about our culture, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.840 where we're just so quick to blame, judge, and then punish. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.720 Where we don't even look like, we don't check ourselves. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.439 We don't look for growth in education and healing in 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.760 the true process, and there's no conversation to to build 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.360 like debate. And that's why our whole culture even right 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.960 now is in a dismal place, from whether it is 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.120 people getting locked up in the penitentiaries or even the 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.720 lack of education in certain forms, and where we may 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.760 speak out of turn and we may speak something because 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.480 we're just searching. We're looking to grow and find ourselves. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.440 We want to we only want truth. We want to 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.079 live our truth. We want to speak truth, we want 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.800 to learn truth. But if it's if you've been brainwashing 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.040 us for so many years and decades and got us 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.839 going in the wrong direction, it's like, well, come on, man, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.520 we're really gonna get to it. Unless I want communities 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.640 that are affluent show us how you got that way. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.200 I want the communities that own the block show us 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.679 how like give us those same opportunities, you know what 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.200 I mean. So, whether it's the idea of gentrification, whereas 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.839 it's social equity, all of these things we got to 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.160 really bring back and into our communities to our next 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.040 young generation because niggas is getting money now, but now 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.400 how you get money? Yeah, but how we keeping it? 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.400 You know what I mean, Because we're getting it and 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.160 then we're giving it right back to him. So it's like, yo, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.959 let's figure out how to And that's realistically, ain't buying 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:38.320 they buying Gucci, They ain't buying an incredible estate. When 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.679 I traveled, I've been like I went to Columbia, went 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:45.480 to this this really bad neighborhood called right it's one 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.480 of the when in men the Pablo escal Bar like that. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.920 It was really terrible and now it's open for tourism. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.840 And when I was there, the only words that came 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.400 to mids reverse gentrification, because they the neighborhood was still intact, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.840 the people were still there, it wasn't hadn't changed, but 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.839 they took control of their neighborhood and they made it 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.320 almost like a tourist destination. And then hip hop is 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.240 one of the biggest parts of it. It's like graffiti, 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.640 the B Boys are the mcs, and I feel like 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.320 that's something that we should lest here exactly, just really 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.840 like and that's even I mean, you know, I'm doing 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.800 my talk show out of Hard. I'm doing a Christmas 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.760 movie and Hard like I'm really trying to rebuild Harlem. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.160 A is that entertainment oasis, that place like that's where 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.679 all of our culture comes from. We wouldn't if I'm 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.560 taking it all the way back to the jazz days, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.400 to the Renaissance dates, to those times where if if 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.960 you were working uptown, if you were in Harlem, you know, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.200 every white folks was on Broadway downtown. But this is 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.440 where our culture was bred from jazz music, which then 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.240 came hip hop, where you know, from from stage and 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.160 theater acting, which became the movie. So it's like, I'm 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.679 just trying to show, you know, we have the really 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.200 the invaluable, priceless equity in a place like a Harlem 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.680 and in place like New Orleans, place like Atlanta, like 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.719 when becomes the greater history of our country. On top 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.520 of that, exactly our culture as a country, and like 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.400 we were the ones that recorded the stories where the storytellers, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.280 whether it's in the form of poetry, whether it's in 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.560 the form of music, whether it's in the form of 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.840 just the Lengthston Hughes and the Maya Andel lose all 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.400 of those types of people are the true Jaganism, the 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:25.320 people who actually record as Grio's and uh in that 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.320 sense for this generation. So I think even what y'all 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.680 do here each and every episode, I'm learning, I'm hearing 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.560 story that point we have really recording our history. But 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.280 we're gonna we got to get straight to the point. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.440 Let's get the ship we got we got. It's called 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.480 quick time with Slim and then we're gonna get to 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.360 your you director. But twick time with Slim is you 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.080 could pick one or two, all right, but if you 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:54.800 pick one both, if you pick both, it's a shot. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.440 And this is even if I don't drink, I can't, 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.600 I can't hit the blood. You can tell dream We 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.520 we did it. The last time we did. We went 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.439 to Wild. I wasn't there when y'all y'all drinking the restaurant. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.120 It was not our style. We did it for you, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.199 and I appreciated. Get you out of your style. Do 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:17.080 you know what drink? So listen, and we got some 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.719 black excellent sis. So I prefer you drink some rock. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.080 You had me drink hennessy lad when you get you 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.280 drink though you drink made me drilling. You didn't even 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.400 drink at all tasted. Come on, we're gonna drink some 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.760 black excellence. So we got to prefer what do you mean, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.760 I don't know what. I prefer you coldrink being why 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.079 you could drink my one? I don't know. Give me 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.480 what happened that drink black? Give me the speak black 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:48.599 Domerican excellent or Colombia Mexican excellent. We all think this 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.480 was a shot. It's literally so I just got to 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.880 play the game correct. But the game converg don't have 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.480 to take a shot, but you should take a shot. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.800 This is what everyone for and we take a shot 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.280 with you. I't to take a shot for you to ye, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.600 I'm gonna take a shot to you. We're gonna take 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.040 a let's just start it off. Let's just let's just 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.800 get the band aid off the ship. Jay Z, take 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:16.320 your shot, easy, jay Z? Oh really? Oh? I don't 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.200 think that was gonna be easy. That was easy, Okay. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:25.760 Respect A loyal to you? Respect because motherfucker ain't nobody loyal, 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.840 so you might as well respect. I'm not expecting you 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.360 to be loyal, but if they were loyal, they would 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.160 respect you. Though if they wasn't disrespecting because you because 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:42.320 ain't nobody loyal damn, but they ain't nobody's ship. I 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.600 totally agree and disagree. I don't want to agree. I 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.880 want to feel motherfucker's too loyal. But even still, I 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:56.960 told you, and they still stay suspect suspect. That's even 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.880 because they look, what are they loyal too? They just 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.520 they just Lloyd don't know nothing else exactly. That's yeah, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:09.440 but everybody tell different. Alright, cool shit, alright, cool you 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.680 to be off this one. You're taking the shot to 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:24.120 all right, Tupaca DMX, that is definitely and just watching 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.200 you gotta you gotta be even on this one. Take 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.360 the shot, even take the shot, take the shot, Take 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.840 the shot out of that. I'm gonna take this shot 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.240 because as much as I love Tupac, as much as 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.640 I admirebly the game he changed, he's the most influential 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.720 black man since Martin Luther King in the last fifty years, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:49.480 there's no more influential black male than tupacs court. But 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:54.280 I gotta go with DMX. I gotta go with X 0:15:54.520 --> 0:16:02.120 because about that before even say why your your answer 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.240 was so good that I'm taking a shot for you. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.800 I'm taking the shot for you serve to take a 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.640 shot for him. Now he right there, he right there. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:20.240 That's literally, bro, Bro, I got a chest. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:30.000 And that's and just one you thought you that's black, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.560 you bet you just on multiple occasions from you know, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.680 obviously we've you know, been in this for a minute, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.000 and even when I was a young dude in the game, 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.400 just like trying to come up and seeing him, you know, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.600 backstage on toward the hard knock love, toward all of 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.840 that stuff, and just watch how he operated, how he 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.360 was a true general and a gentleman all at the 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.720 same you know what I mean. Like the women, women 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.160 loved them, respected him. They're like, remember, we wanted that respect. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.880 It's not money, power, loyalty. It's about going back to 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.119 the respect, the level of respect that he had in 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.040 the level of respect he had for people, so passionate 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.120 all the way to cut the Twenty something years later, 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.680 I get a random call when we're doing you know, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.159 the Doctor Savy interview, and he said he hearing all 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.240 about all all this stuff from from that point to 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.440 all of the stuff I started going through. X called 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.760 me and I was like, man, I know you, I 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.280 got your back be careful. You know what I mean. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.520 He's like they like like, He's like, I know what 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.280 you up against. I salute you. If you ever need me, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.200 just out the blue and just like and and of 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.280 course pray with me, you know what I mean. Like, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.520 So that's what I'm saying. As much as I love Tupac, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:45.440 I got, I admire Tupac, I love X like. That's 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.720 a real one. So all right, let's keep keeping the 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.920 move with Miami or l A. Are we just talking 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:55.240 about whether women we whatever? Whatever the criteria your mind is, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.879 you can take a shot. Oh you know, Oh you 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.399 can't remember you and Miam, have you asked me this 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.040 about ten years ago? They definitely probably said, Miami, get 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:11.359 it way too complicated, Okay, a cool wet all the reason, 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:17.040 the West end fact. Okay, you gotta get home the 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:21.560 nineties hip hop or two thousand nineties. That's a great question. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:28.680 So what would murder count said this one? I swear 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.920 you gotta take a shot for this for real or 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.359 call you Kanye he's quit. Yeah, and I work with 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.760 the whoa day. I did not expect that I got 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.480 a for real story too, but I wanted to do 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:48.199 we might get no, I work with both of them, 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.240 love and admire both of them, and people don't know 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.520 I came in the game as like a producer DJ 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.600 like that's I didn't even really want to be a rapper, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.720 but because I was on television and doing so, I 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:01.080 really I was. I was jealous of how dope those 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.399 dudes were, you know what I mean, like specifically Farrell 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.440 and Kanye, and I felt like I actually met Pharrell first, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.320 and you know, rest in peace to a man. Chris 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.679 Lyti he put me with. I was I was managed 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.320 by Chris Lotty, so this is what late nineties, yeah, 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.560 like nineties seven, I think it was something like that. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:26.879 Um and he was job yeah yeah, and Chris was 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.840 my manager and he sent me. He said he flew 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:32.480 me because I was young. I can't even I don't 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.320 think I could fly by myself. He flew with me 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.040 to Virginia and then he was like, I'm man introduced 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.639 you to these kids out here in Nepportunes And he 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.080 was telling me about he's working with Hues where he 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.159 did the shake yass and all this stuff. And I 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.119 just keep it real break That's what I'm saying. Like 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.199 the number one number I'm gonna be a cat from 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.440 the West Coast. I knew. I didn't know the producers were. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.159 I just know that was like a dope, interesting sound. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.280 And I hadn't put two and two together other that 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:05.440 the same dude that ye doing this new jay Z 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.000 record that was about to start, Like I'm hearing all 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.040 of this stuff, and he was like, Yo, these are 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.879 the dudes, And like I get to that like studio 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.200 in Virginia and I see this dude with like this 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.200 big belt buckle on a porn stash and the trucker hat. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.320 I was like, Yo, you're about to leave me with them? 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:33.199 That it was for real? Yeah, yeah, the chat all 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.760 at the same he was on his trucker ship at 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.520 the time and then which fawned the whole fashion trip 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.720 Dutch and all of that ship. So like he was 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.280 always there, like ahead of his time and all of that. 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:51.959 But I didn't know, Like literally, Chris flew. Chris had 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.720 ship to do, he had real artists, and so he 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:56.199 flew me and then flew and I was like, Yo, 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.200 you're gonna leave me with fucking strangers, and yo, we 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.040 got in the studio, we got to it, and it 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.040 was it was interesting because I was wanting, you know, 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.480 that gangster like and he gave me one like Michael Jackson. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.200 And this is like, there wasn't the net tune jet like. 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.359 They was just they had one of two joints that 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.760 was popping and he gave me some ship and so 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:21.760 they were in the household name as producers. Nah he 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.720 still had and that was the thing. It was funny 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.320 they had and I hear hear about uh pushing T 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.200 and Malice was both in the studio and they was 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.960 like coming to help and I was like, no, I'm good. 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.000 I got my own. He was like trying to say 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.920 right now, what you're trying to say that they the 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:44.560 ghost right? Yeah, don't nobody right for ghost right for 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.280 Nick motherfucker kid. They was there and I was like, 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.120 that's what you said. I respected. But I was like, yeah, 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.399 I could get down on my own and you know, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.560 we was rapping doing all of that stuff. And they 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.840 was like oh, because again in their mind, I was 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.919 the kid from Nickelodeon. So and Chris Lottey was bring 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.240 and he was like, you know, he's about to be big, 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.760 He's about to go do a movie soon, and like 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.600 this is this is this is the Holy Molly. Sorry, right, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.120 I was gonna say the Nigga version of it. I'm 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.160 trying to stop saying. So this is the Black Molly. 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:23.040 This fifteen years before Moy. But again, like and I 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.600 had early on before that, I was signed to Will Smith. 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.120 So that's why that moniker was like, he's the next 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.359 Fresh Prince, He's the next Will Smith and that, and 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.720 I was on Nickelodeon. So by the time I got 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.159 dropped off to the net tunes, they had already had 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.680 like the Little rug Rats theme in mind. I had prepared, 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.120 but in the wrong way for you. Yeah, so, my mom, 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.320 all I want to do is be a producer in 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.840 the DJ DJ And since I was sixteen, I was like, 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.119