1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay Travis 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you, Appreciate you. In fact, 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: I just leaned into that one. I don't even know 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Appreciate you being with us, did it? 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I said a Clay style there for a moment there, 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and we are excited to tell you about everything going on, 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: including this major summit, this major sit down that is 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: going on in Alaska with Trump and footin that especially 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: for a Friday in the middle of August, that's going 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: to be about as big time as it gets for 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: any one individual foreign policy news story short of war 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: breaking out somewhere or major terrorist attack. This is a 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: big deal and we're going to get into some of 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the specifics here. I believe the meeting is occurring post show, right, 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: so we don't we don't. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Have every thirty Eastern time it starts, which I believe 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: is eleven thirty am. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Alaska time, Alaska time. We had some very interesting deep 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: dive with the Governor of Alaska yesterday and to things 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: that people might not have known about the lovely state 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: where we have a number of fantastic or even fabulous 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: radio stations up there where we have a great listening audience. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. It's pretty incredible that people that far 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: away can hear us on the old radio stations. It's great. 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: We love it. But we'll give you some of the 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: details and all. This all sort of take a lot 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: of your talkbacks and calls today because it is a Friday. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: More on the DC crime drama they're still going for 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: they're still pushing it. In fact, Clay something that you 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: see today, DC files a lawsuit challenging the administration's police takeover. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: This just happened today and this is still breaking. So 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: the District of Columbia's filed an emergency motion challenging the 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration's attempt. They're going to have a judge listen 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to this. The issue is, I see it here. It's 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: pretty cut and dry that the president can do this. 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to find some and I know 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats have a million ways. They'll say it violates 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the Administrative Procedures Act or something. Don't even know who 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the Administrative Proscedures Act is, So this is just what 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: they say. The people who say they know what it 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: is don't even know what it is. So I'm wondering 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: where they're really going to take this and what this 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: judge is going to say. And we still have the 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: redistricting fight going on. By the way, the governor California, 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, has kicked off his campaign for a proposition, 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: play your buddy, Gavin. I think Gavin is still the leader. 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I think he is the leading Democrat in the country 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: right now. Bernie Sanders gets more live hype from the 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: tours he does, but I think Gavin views himself as 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: as the alpha male. We're gonna get into the alpha 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: males Trump and putin here in a second, but what 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: do you think of both the DC emergency or challenging 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: this or emergency challenge? I should say to the crime takeover, Well, 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: let's start with that one. I'm I'm seeing this as 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: they're just making it worse for themselves. And at this point, 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: all Trump has to do is just keep doing what 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: he's doing, and everybody who's opposing him is going to 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: look increasingly foolish. 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: It is indisputably the case that Trump has the constitutional 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: authority to act as he did in Washington, d C. 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: With that in mind, it is also possible that a 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: federal district court judge could in the DC area question 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: whether Trump has that power, particularly Boseburg and the anti 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: Trump contingent of the district court judges. So the media 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: will chase whatever the district court judges do. But remember 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: the Ninth Circuit. I believe one of the Federal District 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Court judges, a brother of Stephen Bryer, if I'm not mistaken, 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: in the San Francisco area, said that Trump didn't have 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: the right to call in the guard in LA and 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: almost immediately that was reversed as it moved up the 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: legal hierarchy. But it wouldn't shock me if a judge 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: said that Trump can't do what he clearly can do, 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: because many of these judges are basically politicians in robes, 74 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: and so he can. 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Indisputably do this. 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: Warriors everywhere who have even spent a scintilla of time 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: studying this not a difficult case. But that doesn't mean 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: that some judge might not say, well, I don't think 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: he could do it, you know, for some reason, just 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: to write an opinion to get a lot of attention. 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: This is what we're going to see. Are the hashtag 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: resistance judges in DC willing to remember this is not 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: an interpretation of like a broad spectrum authority that the 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: president has. This is specifically in the district of Columbia 85 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: and looking at a law pass in nineteen seventy three 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: that has been good law for fifty years that deals 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: exactly with this issue, that says Trump can do this. 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: This is Trump has thirty days he can do this. 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: It says it in the law. Are we going to 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: have a judge that comes along, I'm i'm I could. 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: Go fifty fifty Whether they could just say that he 92 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: can't do it? Eventually judges will say he can, but 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: there might be one judge who says he cannot. 94 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: It'll just It's fascinating though, because you see this Judges 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: no longer when it comes to Trump and the hashtag 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: resistance judiciary, they're no longer. There's no longer the fear 97 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: of embarrassment at being completely slapped down nine to oh. 98 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Remember when they tried to kick Trump off the ballot 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: in Colorado. I think they talked about it in Maine, right, 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: but they actually were moving forward on her in Colorado 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nine to oh, even so to mayor even 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: Catangi Brown Jackson we're like, guys, I mean, we gotta pretend. 103 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: We gotta pretend at least, right, this is not even 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: pretending to care what the law says. This is pretty 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: close to that for me, based on the reading of 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy three Home Relact. If a judge manages 107 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: to come up with some way to stop Trump on this, 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: it's just a judge saying I don't like Trump. They're 109 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: not even pretending the law matters. 110 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: I also think this is where there should be some 111 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: consequences when judges engage in behavior that's way outside the 112 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: bounds of what the law is. When you get lifetime tenure, 113 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: there's virtually nothing that happens to any of these federal 114 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: district court judges. Sure there's a measure of embarrassment on 115 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: some level for people who want to actually apply the law, 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: but I think in many ways that's canceled out by 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: other judges giving them pats on the back and saying, 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: way to stand up to that tyrant, Way to stand 119 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: up to that authoritarian. This is what judges should do. 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: And honestly, I think if you get overruled nine oh, 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: I think you should actually have a consequence. You know, 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: a good example, as you were just pointing out the 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: Colorado Supreme Court, everybody wants to forget about it because 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: now they're saying, oh, redistricting is putting democracy on the 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: ballot and all these things. The state of Colorado voted 126 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: to pull Donald Trump off of the ballot and not 127 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: allow people there to vote for him, and the Colorado 128 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: Supreme Court said four to three, that's appropriate. We can 129 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: do this looking at the federal Constitution. And then the 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: actual Supreme Court looked at it and said nine to zho, no, 131 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: this is unacceptable. But all of those people in Colorado, 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: there were no consequences for them being wrong. There were 133 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: no consequences that we barely even talk about what they 134 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: tried to do. And what was it Maine that followed up. 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: There were multiple states that were willing to get in 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: line and say Trump was disqualified from being able to 137 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: be eligible for president of the United States. If that's 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: not an actual legal insurrection, what is you know? That's 139 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: the phrase Kathy Hokel used to describe Texas redistricting. Pulling 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: a candidate off the ballot and not allowing your citizens 141 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: to vote is to me a level of attack on 142 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: basic democracy in the process of warresident that maybe. 143 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: For judicial overreach we've seen in the Trump era against Trump, 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I could because it's I mean, you think about they 145 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: also were just deciding that there was no there was 146 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: no process to speak of. I mean they just said, yeah, 147 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Trump did a thing I don't like, so he can't 148 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: be on the ballot. You can't and you can't even 149 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: point to that just being one judge buck, which is 150 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: why I find it so troubling. The Colorado Supreme Court, 151 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: I believe there's seven Supreme Court justices in the state 152 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: of Colorado voted. 153 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Four to three, we're going to do this. So that 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: actually went through the entire Colorado court system and they 155 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: said yes, and then they got slapped down nine to zero. 156 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: And I'm mentioning it now, and I bet a lot 157 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: of you are just now thinking, oh, yeah, I totally 158 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: forgot about that. Because there's so many legal process and 159 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: procedures that have been put in place since then. I 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: think that was, of all of them, the most egregious. 161 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: And so when you hear somebody like Kathy Hochl, Governor 162 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: of New York, say, oh, this is a legal insurrection 163 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: referring to Texas or redistricting I think it's important to 164 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: remember what they did legitimately in trying to take Trump 165 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: off the ballot, and it had to go all the 166 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: way to Supreme Court to put his name on the ballot. 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: I can't think of anything that's even remotely comparable that 168 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: any Republican has ever done that is a legal attack 169 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: of a similar nature on Democrats. 170 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, there are Democrats out there. This is as somebody 171 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: who's been in Baghdad during a war. I gotta tell you. 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Here's Tiffany Cross, Democrat saying, I guess this is over 173 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: at CNN, CNNMSNBC. You know, Tomato, Tomato, It's all the 174 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: same these days. Here she is saying, remember, she's upset, 175 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: this has cut five. She's upset not because DC is dangerous, 176 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: but because there are too many people who are there 177 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: to make it safer on the streets. Play five. 178 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: I mean, this is frightening. I kind of disagree with 179 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: you both. It's not a distraction, and the way we're 180 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: normalizing fascism is frightening. I left DC today it looked 181 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: like Baghdad, the way that the National Guard has taken over, 182 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: the way that they have militarized the police force, there. 183 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: It is scary, and so the fact that he has 184 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 3: previously threatened to have Gavin Newsom arrested. He had the 185 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: Christy known the Homeland Security Secretary. I mean, for her, 186 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: killing puppies is business as usual. She's not in any 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: position to even be qualified to oversee a department with this. 188 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: Ice does not have the authority to arrest anybody. He 189 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: is deploying them, like you said, like it's his own 190 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: personal police force. 191 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: Just ignoring everything that's true and just saying things that 192 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: are crazy and emotionally charged, and even a shot about 193 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: the Gnomes in the past. She believe herself open to that, 194 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: but I'm not defending it. I'm just saying working this 195 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: is a kitchen sink strategy. It's fascism, attacking Nome for 196 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: the dog thing and all this stuff. She's going all 197 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: in on this instead of just saying for a second, 198 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: hold on. First of all, there are I've seen plenty 199 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: of There was an armory near where I grew up 200 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: in New York. You see people in military uniforms. Why 201 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: is it scary to see people from the National Guard? 202 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: Why would that be a bad thing? This is a 203 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: little bit like why police on your block should make 204 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: you feel safer, and if they don't, you should ask why. 205 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: I agree. 206 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: And anybody out there who doesn't want more police is 207 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: probably doing something illegal. And here's a big question. Worst 208 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: case scenario, Trump does all this additional mobilization of resources 209 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: to help try to make DC safer and the crime 210 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: rate stays basically the same. That's the worst case scenario, 211 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: absolute worst case scenario. Has anybody really considered what happens 212 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: if it works? Imagine if Trump brings these resources to 213 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: bear on the district of Columbia and suddenly violent crime 214 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: drops by forty percent. Look at what he did on 215 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: the border, where basically nobody talks about the border. It's 216 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: important sometimes to remember stories that were big, Oh Trump 217 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: can't be on the ballot, he's not a constitutionally eligible 218 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: to be president. 219 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Just vanishes. 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: Nobody even mentions it the border, nobody mentions it at all. 221 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Has anybody really thought? This is why I love the 222 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: move that Trump is making. I don't see a downside. 223 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: Democrats say, hey, we've got too many police. Most people say, 224 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: well we should. If you're upset about too many police, 225 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: you're probably a criminal. The only person who's upset about 226 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: a drunk driving. A test is the person who's driving drunk, right, Like, 227 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: if you're driving, you know you know how the person 228 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: they can catch you because some guys are like uh oh, 229 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: and you turn and go the opposite direction and they 230 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: pull you over. If you see a drunk driving checkpoint, 231 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: it's probably a sign that you may have been drinking. 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: The only people upset about drunk driving checkpoints are people 233 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: that might have been drinking. To me, the only people 234 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: upset about more police on the streets are people who 235 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: are actually engaged in criminal behavior. But buck, what if 236 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: it works? What if in two months we have a 237 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: fifty percent decline in violent crime in DC? What if 238 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: carjacking plummets. What if the number of murders plummet? What 239 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: do democrats do then? I and worst case scenario, nothing changes. 240 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: And the problems are so intractable in DC right now 241 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: that more troops and more police on the ground don't 242 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: impact things. 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Find it on the iHeartRadio app 267 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 268 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 269 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 270 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: I know we got big serious things to discuss, but 271 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: I do think I've been getting blown up all morning 272 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: about this. I was just talking about it to Buck. 273 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: The numbers are out. You have no knowledge of the 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift interview that she did with Travis Kelcey Buck 275 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: at all? 276 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Right? Like you have? 277 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: You truly have had zero knowledge of it in any way? 278 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: Have you managed to escape all coverage of it, all 279 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: attention on it. 280 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I have no idea. I didn't know who 281 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey was until he started dating Taylor Swift. That 282 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: is a very girl like thing for you to I 283 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: was gonna say, maybe I shouldn't have admitted that on 284 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: the radio. That's that, that's a little that was a 285 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: little fabulous for you. 286 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: I was actually, yeah, well, we've got some fun, fun 287 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: analysis there. I didn't actually know there was a heaterous, 288 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: actual man who did not know Travis Kelcey until he 289 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: started dating Taylor Swift, until Buck just told us. 290 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 6: So. 291 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate him being so honest with his audience early 292 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: in the show. Today, my phone has been blown up 293 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: with everybody dissecting this relationship. Let me just tell you this, 294 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: I do find it interesting in this way. I think 295 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: the legacy media is to a large degree now worthless. 296 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: And I say that because look at where major news 297 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: is breaking outside of Fox News, which is a leviathan 298 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: unlike any other news organization. Right now, I think it's 299 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: fair to say in the country, almost everyone is doing 300 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: things outside of the traditional metric, and the number of 301 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: people consuming them is off the charts. I was just 302 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: looking through billions of impressions of that Taylor Swift and 303 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey interview. Now, whatever you think about it, I 304 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: do think the Trump election in twenty twenty four, to 305 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: a large extent, is a map for what twenty twenty 306 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: eight is going to look like. The sixty minutes interview thing, 307 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: which obviously turned into a flap associated with Kamala, that 308 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: organization is dead. I don't even think it's going to 309 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: matter in twenty twenty eight, and I do think it's 310 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: going to be one of the most profound legacies of 311 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Trump that the media that traditionally was the safeguarding universe 312 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: that analyzed all of this is gone forever. I don't 313 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: think it's ever going to return. And I think this 314 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: interview that has taken over much of pop culture is 315 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: emblematic of what happened in the twenty twenty four election too. 316 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: You ever seen those stats about CDs and MP three's 317 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: and how even after MP three's came out, people are 318 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: still buying CDs until two thousand and six, and then 319 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: it was done and then it just died gone. And 320 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: we'll come back here a second. What percentage of Americans 321 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: do you think own gold? Is it five percent, fifteen percent, 322 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: a third of all Americans? Look, just more than twelve 323 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: percent is the answer, which is pretty small when you 324 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: think about it, considering especially that gold has increased by 325 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: some forty percent over the last year alone. For you, 326 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: for most of this audience, it's an investment opportunity. And 327 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons to own gold these days, 328 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: not just because of that value increase. It's proven to 329 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: increase in value over time, that's one thing, and owning 330 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 2: it in your savings account is going to help hedge 331 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: with the declining value of our dollar over time. Owning 332 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: gold is good can be physical gold, That's what I've got, 333 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: but you can also take an existing ira or four 334 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: to one k and turn it into a gold ira 335 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: or four one k with birch Gold Group. 336 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: Cash in our accounts. The cash in our accounts is 337 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: going down. Gold is going up over time. Go check 338 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: it out for yourself. Text my name Buck to ninety 339 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: eight ninety eight ninety eight. Birch Gold will send you 340 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: a free infoKit on Gold. Text Buck to ninety eight 341 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight. Today, welcome back into Clay and Bock. 342 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: Let's start to dive in with the Trump Putin summit 343 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: in Alaska today. It's going to be happening. They're sitting 344 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: down right after the show, so we're telling you what 345 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: we're expecting and all of the preview, if you will, 346 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: of this diplomatic boxing match that will be going on. 347 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Trump was on Air Force one this morning, speaking to 348 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: the press as he does. This is cut ten and 349 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: this is what he said. Are the territorial swaps on 350 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the table? Will you be discussing? They'll be discussed. 351 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 6: But I've got to let Ukraine make that decision, and 352 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 6: I think they'll make a proper decision. But I'm not 353 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 6: here to negotiate for Ukraine. I'm here to get them 354 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: at a table, and I think you have two sides. Look, 355 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 6: Vladimir Putin wanted to take all of Ukraine. If I 356 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 6: wasn't president, he would right now be taking all of 357 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 6: you grant. 358 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: But he's not gonna do it. So Trump is really 359 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: setting this up. I think, Clay and this has been 360 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: I believe the expectation from a lot of people now 361 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: who have been following this where he is. He's getting 362 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: the two sides to talk, and so he's talking to 363 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: Putin about that process. But it sounds like he doesn't 364 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: have a particular I don't know. It doesn't sound like 365 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: he has an expectation of what either side is going 366 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: to demand, or maybe I should say he doesn't plan 367 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: to dictate terms to either side other than just make 368 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: a deal. Is he's like smashing these two, these two 369 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: guys together Zelenskin Putin and saying, figure it out. 370 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: I would equate this too, And I bet a lot 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: of people out there in business in life you've done this. 372 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: You go to meet with somebody and you think, I 373 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: don't really know what the significance of this meeting is, 374 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: and then you can tell about five minutes in whether 375 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: or not it's going to be worth your time. 376 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: I think that's really what Trump is trying to do. 377 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: Did you see I. 378 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: Want to play this cut because I couldn't believe it. 379 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton said that Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize 380 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: if he gets this war to end. I never would 381 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: have believed that. Do we have that audio? I believe 382 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: we do is in the cutscheet. Can we play that 383 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: if he. 384 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 7: Could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where 385 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 7: it had to concede its territory to the aggressor had 386 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 7: to in a way validate Putin's vision of greater Russia, 387 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 7: but instead could really stand up to Putin to make 388 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 7: it clear there must be a cease fire, there will 389 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 7: be no exchange of territory, and that over a period 390 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 7: of time, Putin should be actually withdrawing from the territory 391 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 7: he seized in order to demonstrate good faith efforts let 392 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 7: us say, not to threaten European security. If President Trump 393 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 7: were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a 394 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 7: Nobel Peace Prize. 395 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that standard, Well, first of all, that standard at snarky. 396 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: She doesn't have high faith here. 397 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also that standard is basically Russia just puts 398 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: down its arms and says we never should have invaded 399 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: in the first place. I do think that Trump's going 400 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: to get a deal. And I believe that the media 401 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: has not covered enough the move to splash big tariffs 402 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: on India for taking in the Russian oil and gas, 403 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: and hardly anyone has talked about it that I believe 404 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: was the move that got Putin to come to Russia 405 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: and meet with Trump. I also think not enough as 406 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: being so for those of you who don't understand that 407 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: tactically why it was such a big move, there had 408 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: been a tacit acknowledgement that Europe was not going to 409 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: pay for oil and gas from Russia, but that we 410 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: basically weren't going to allow the oil and gas of 411 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: Russia to continue to continue to pile up and not 412 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: go on to the global marketplace because that could raise 413 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: the cost of oil and gas for everybody. And so 414 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: there was sort of a wink, wink, nudge, nudge, they'll 415 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: just sell all of their oil and gas to India 416 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: and also China. But India obviously is a democracy that 417 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: we have a great relationship with, and India went I 418 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: believe the math is from oil and gas from Russia 419 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: representing one percent of their overall oil and gas imports 420 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: to I believe thirty three percent. Basically overnight. So that 421 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: if you think about India and the amount of size 422 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: of that country, Russia I believe is fueling about a 423 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: third of their overall oil and gas needs from one 424 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: percent pre invasion with Ukraine. So that suddenly doubling of 425 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: the tariff on India was a statement that Trump basically 426 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: isn't okay with that. Continuing almost immediately Putin said okay, 427 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: let's go meet now. I think that has not gotten 428 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: enough attention. I think that's what motivated this second part 429 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: of this that hasn't gotten enough attention. In my mind, 430 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: Buck Putin's coming to America. It wasn't very long ago 431 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: that we were saying through the Biden administration, Oh, if 432 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Putin ever steps foot in America, we're going to arrest 433 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: him for war crimes. Have you heard anyone on the 434 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: Democrat party side even mention the idea? Do you remember 435 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: that tough talk from Biden. Oh, he'll never come to 436 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: America because the international criminal courts will arrest him and 437 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: America is going to take him into custody. And there 438 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: was talk that he wasn't going to be able to 439 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: travel anywhere outside of Russia he's coming to America. That 440 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: feels pretty significant too that Trump got him to come here. 441 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: Trump's not going to Russia. Trump's not even going to 442 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: Sweden or some sort of traditionally neutral country. He's got 443 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: Putin coming to the United States. Now, I know it's 444 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: not a huge trip from Russia, but I think both 445 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: of those parts, before we even see how the conversation go, 446 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: are illustrative to me of Putin actually being interested in 447 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: potentially trying to get a deal done here. Now what 448 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: does he want? That's the ultimate question we never have 449 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: really figured out. 450 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Here's Trump also on Air Force One talking about Putin. 451 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Just a little throwback here, Ah, what was it three 452 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: years ago when we were in mar A Lago with 453 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: Trump in the early early days of the Russia Ukraine War, 454 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: And Trump said Putin's a genius. 455 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 5: Uh. 456 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: And it was in the context of a much longer 457 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: thing where he's basically just saying this guy is a 458 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: very savvy operator and knows how to get what he wants. 459 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: But he was just being Trump, you know, when he 460 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: says he has a very good relationship with somebody, Well, 461 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: that can change in a day. But Trump likes to 462 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: present things in a certain way, and the whole Internet 463 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: melted down over this for a couple of days. I 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: remember there was like a global news story that Trump 465 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: said Putin's a genius. Trump, I think has respect for 466 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: Putin's skill set and for his bravado. I wonder though, 467 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: if he likes makes him at all as a person. 468 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: First of all, he has his English is not very good, 469 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: is what I understand. He speaks He speaks English, but 470 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: not well. So they do use it. I think they 471 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: use a translate. That's actually really I want to know. 472 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I know they have translators present. I'm wondering how much 473 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: that is relied on in an exchange between Trump and Putin. 474 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: But I do know that Putin's English is not very good. 475 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: So the the depth of the relationship between these two men, 476 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't think is particularly you know, they don't they 477 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: don't really have some deeper connection. Right. This isn't FDR 478 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: and Churchill slapping each other's backs back in the day. 479 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: But here is Trump saying some things about Putin. This 480 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: is cut eleven. Listen to it. And you've had a 481 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of phone calls with President Putin. 482 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: What's the difference in the face to face in person 483 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: media different? 484 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 6: Look, He's a smart guy been doing it for a 485 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 6: long time, but so have I been doing it for 486 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 6: a long time. And here we are with president that 487 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 6: was much more difficult than what I'm doing today, believe me. 488 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 6: So we get along. There's a good respect level on 489 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: both sides, and I think, you know something's going to 490 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: come of it. I notice he's bringing a lot of 491 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: business people from Russia, and that's good. I like that 492 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 6: because they want to do business. But they're not doing 493 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 6: business until we get the worst out of it. 494 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: He's not over selling it, Clay. You'll notice Trump isn't 495 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: saying this is one hundred percent get ready to pop 496 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: the champagne. He's saying, we'll see, but I'm trying. 497 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Here's another thing that I think people say, Oh, Trump 498 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: gets along too well with dictators. Trump is too chummy 499 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: with authoritarians everything else. Here's what I think Trump relies upon, 500 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: and I think many authoritarian leaders do too. You ultimately 501 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: have to trust the person at the top of the 502 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: chain that you're making a deal with, because both Trump 503 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: and Putin and everybody else who's in a position of 504 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: power is going to have a vast bureaucracy of people 505 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: that are in charge of implementing the policies that they 506 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: put in place. This is true for any CEO, this 507 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: is true for any business, And ultimately, in a top 508 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: down structure, you have to know, hey, I can get 509 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: this guy on the phone and I trust him that 510 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: we have a mutuality of understanding. And that is ultimately, 511 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: I think the case on everything. Anybody who has ever 512 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: papered a deal of any kind of significance, If you 513 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: don't trust the guy at the top of the food 514 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: chain that you're doing the deal with, everything that you 515 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: intend gets lost in the flow of the bureaucracy, and 516 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: you ultimately need to be able to go to the 517 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: top and say, hey, this is what we talked about 518 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: face to face, let's work this out. And I think 519 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 2: Putin respects that, and I think Trump respects that, and 520 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: that's why I think there is cautious optimism. I thought 521 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: really yesterday Buck that the governor of Alaska, I thought 522 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: that was kind of big news when he said, Hey, 523 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: it's possible Zolensky just hops in a jet and ends 524 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: up here too. In other words, there is a possibility 525 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: that they could extend this visit in Anchorage and maybe 526 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: continue to hammer out details. I haven't heard anybody else 527 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: make that comment, but that to me, it wouldn't take 528 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: for I mean, all these guys have access to huge 529 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: jumbo jets that can travel around the world and get anywhere. 530 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that that's likely to happen, but maybe 531 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: there's a possibility this ends up in a longer meeting. 532 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: This is also one of those moments where no one's 533 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: really talking about this clay, but a reminder of the 534 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: United Nations is essentially worthless. Yes, you know, you'll notice 535 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: you don't hear, there's no and and really on this 536 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: issue too. The EU has done some stuff, the European 537 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: our allies are helping Ukraine with some money and weapons. 538 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's still America 539 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: that is calling the shots on the global state, especially 540 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: when you're talking about a Rusher or China situation. It's 541 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: us and it's them. You know, the the UN that 542 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: the make believe stories that the United Nations Security Council 543 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: does anything good, It really doesn't. It's it's either irrelevant 544 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: or sometimes actually bad in the decisions or in the way. Certainly, 545 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: the You and Human Rights Council is a giant mess. 546 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: But you would think that. This is why you would 547 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: have you know, an aggressor an invasion, a major war 548 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: the United Nations. Nobody even cares. Yeah, I'm not going 549 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: to do anything totally totally worthless. That's why they should 550 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: move it out of New York, to move it somewhere else. 551 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: And you know, not let these diplomats just run up 552 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: their charge cards at fancy restaurants. 553 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: Do you know why it's totally worthless? Because they're not 554 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: the deciders of anything. And that comes back to you 555 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: know why you got to try the tops to sit 556 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: down with Putin. Ultimately, the only thing that matters is 557 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: who is the decider. And that's that's why so frustrating 558 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: big business, big government, because there are seven hundred and 559 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: sixty eight different and vice presidents of something, but they're 560 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: all running their request up the flagpole and everything gets 561 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: bogged down. You always want to talk with the guy 562 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: or the gal who actually gets to make a decision 563 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: at any organization. Otherwise it's often a worthless process. And 564 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: I think that's what Trump gets, and that's certainly what 565 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: Putin gets. I'm going to go down Tuesday to Chattanooga, Tennessee. 566 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm speaking there at the Young Republican Conference. And I'm 567 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: also going to visit our friends at Legacy Box. I've 568 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: been talking about this for a while. 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That's a Legacy box dot Com 594 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: slash Clay. 595 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: Seek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with 596 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode of Every Sunday. 597 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 598 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 4: your podcasts. 599 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 600 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: We got a lot of different people. 601 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: Wa again, as is often the case on a variety 602 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: of different topics. Let's go here a day from Brockton, 603 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: mass DD talkback what we got for you. 604 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 8: Hey, Clay, this is Dave from Bronckon and nobody ever 605 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 8: heard of him before because he sucked. Now he's with 606 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 8: Tillo Swiss, So I'm kind of Patriots Nation. You got 607 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 8: me in Massachusetts and the Pats are gonna smoke Casey 608 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 8: this year. 609 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: Mock my words on I can't. I can't argue with 610 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: someone's analysis of the Patriots when they're rocking a Boston 611 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: accent like that, Like that's just he's beyond reproach. 612 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate the bitterness. The Patriots are not, in fact, 613 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: gonna smoke anyone this year. They're not very good. 614 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, is that the case? I was not aware. 615 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been awful without Tom Brady as they were 616 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: awful without Tom Brady before him. Hurley, I'm not Hurley. 617 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: It's like lost Hurley from Lincoln, Nebraska. 618 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: What you got for is ee, I'm here. 619 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 9: You're talking about Travis and Taylor, and I have to 620 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 9: tell you that I really appreciate them because it helps me. 621 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 9: When I go to my news websites. I scrolled down 622 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 9: and I read the articles that I want to read, 623 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 9: and I know exactly when the stop reading. It's when 624 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 9: I come to the first Travison and Taylor headlines. 625 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: So I love them. 626 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: People click on these stories like crazy. I will tell 627 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: you even at OutKick Dennis in Columbus, Ohio, he's mad. 628 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: I did it. Sometimes the things that I say that 629 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: are going to provoke me. I knew I was swear 630 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: to you. I was going to say, you've pissed off 631 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: the libertarians who are listening, and sure enough, here we are. 632 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: I am in favor of DUI checkpoints. I think that 633 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 2: they are smart. I think that they reduce drunk drive. 634 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: And I don't think you have a right to drive 635 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: on taxpayer funded roads and not worry that you might 636 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: be pulled over for breaking the law when it comes 637 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: to drunk driving. But Dennis from Columbus, Ohio is upset 638 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: with me for being in favor of the UI checkpoints. 639 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 5: Congratulations on selling out the Fourth Amendment. Boys, I'm not 640 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 5: sure which one of you said it, but I can't 641 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: believe either of you parroted the idiotic line about the 642 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: only people being upset about sobriety checkpoints are people driving 643 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: drunk period. 644 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: What about those of. 645 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: Us who don't like to be detained for as much 646 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 5: as an hour without probable cause. 647 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: You aren't getting detained for an hour at d UI 648 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: checkpoint again, public roads. 649 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: It was it was play. Just to be clear with me. 650 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: It's at Travis on Twitter. 651 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: I'll take I am now going to be attacked this 652 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: week for opposing murder and opposing drunk driving. So uh, 653 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: I you know, I'll take the slings and arrows when 654 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 2: they come. I actually think that that drunk drive stops now. 655 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: Frent thankfully, Uber and Lyft have helped, I think, decrease 656 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: drunk driving immensely. Also, young kids are not drinking as much, 657 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: which I think is probably a good health moves. They're 658 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: hitting historic lows, but the data is pretty clear that 659 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 2: when you drive drunk, you put a lot of people 660 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: in danger, and anything we can do to limit that 661 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: danger that is within constitutional authority. And I think that 662 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: is and has been found to be within the constitutional authority, 663 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: not violating the Fourth Amendment, and I'm in favor of it. 664 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: I'm anti murder and I'm anti drunk driving. I'm taking 665 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 2: some strong cases this week. When we come back, we 666 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: will break down a bunch of serious stories relating to 667 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: Putin and Ukraine. Also, we have research on my use 668 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: of the word fabulous, and it turns out, fuck, this 669 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 2: is a hell of the tease. Maybe I'm actually gay 670 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: and I didn't know it. I do use the word 671 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 2: fabulous a lot. We'll discuss next week.