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Speaker 1: edition of our show Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here

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Speaker 1: with Alana Rizzo and Alana. We're in the home stretch

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Speaker 1: and general managers, managers, coaches, players for that matter as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, good to see you as always.

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Speaker 3: This is it three weeks left, not even three weeks

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Speaker 3: they can ill afford to lose jose L two.

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Speaker 1: They can they cannot lose a jose L two. They

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Speaker 1: And obviously, even as al two they acknowledged last night,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, many teams holding those injuries tight to the vest,

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Speaker 3: The good news is though for the Minnesota Twins. Is

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Speaker 3: Talk about the AL postseason as they are looking to

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Speaker 3: We want to hear from you guys. This is an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to ask Ken some great questions. Do you think

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Speaker 3: to rotate guys in that back end of the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Is the equivalent for Aaron Boone of having Jason Dimingez

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Speaker 3: far as versatility and options for the bullpen as it

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Speaker 1: Lineup a lot. And I'm glad you raised that point

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Speaker 1: because I do see it the same way, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I would say it's options. It's competition, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Right now, there's competition on this roster. There's competition between

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Speaker 3: Now for Grill and Ken and Ken. The first question

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. Chris Fetter is a pitching coach

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Speaker 1: Brench Drom stands out former Astros pitching coach now with

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a great line. I love it all right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that a lot, and

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Speaker 1: Going to happen eventually, Alta, and we might see it

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Speaker 1: I just can't see either side having the courage or

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Speaker 3: Time Now for Dude and Dork of the Week, an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to brag on somebody and also to scratch our

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Speaker 3: head on the actions of others.

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Speaker 2: Ken Who is your dude.

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Speaker 1: Due to the week? For me is a guy that

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Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent, a guy who

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Speaker 1: plays for a team that is going to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and a guy who is having an amazing season and

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about him enough. I'm talking about Anthony

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Speaker 1: Santander of the Baltimore Orioles. Forty one home runs that's

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Speaker 1: tied for eighth all time by a switch hitter. That's

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Speaker 1: an amazing season, and Santander is one of the important

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Speaker 1: players on that team. He's a great influence. People love

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Speaker 1: him on the team, the players love him, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see how far they

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Speaker 1: go to retain him. During free agency, we talked about

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Speaker 1: Pete a Lonzo a little bit in the last segment,

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Speaker 1: Alana Anthony Santander means a lot to the Orioles. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I would say as much as Peter

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Speaker 1: a Lonzo to the Mets. These are kind of subjective discussions.

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Speaker 1: But he is by due to the week. For all

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Speaker 1: that he has accomplished this season, amazing year.

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Speaker 2: More impressive to you because he is a switch hitter.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's really impressive to be able to do that,

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Speaker 1: because hitters will tell you switch hitters will tell you

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Speaker 1: that to maintain your swing from both sides and to

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Speaker 1: do the work necessary for that, it's draining and it's

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Speaker 1: difficult to do.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to do it from one side, let alone

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Speaker 2: both sides.

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Speaker 3: All Right, my dude is going to be Bowden Francis

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Speaker 3: this guy, My goodness, what does he have to do

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Speaker 3: ken to get a no hitter? I mean he loses

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Speaker 3: his second no hitter in the ninth inning in eighteen days.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's pitched incredibly well. It's been fun to

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Speaker 3: see him, and really, the sky's the limit for this

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Speaker 3: young man. What impresses you the most about the way

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Speaker 3: he goes about his business the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that he was sent down after two starts this

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Speaker 1: year and bounced back in this way, and he's pitching

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Speaker 1: in a really good rotation. Remember, they've got Barrios and

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Speaker 1: Gosman and Chris Bassett. They are an impressive group and

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Speaker 1: he looks like he is going to be part of

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Speaker 1: that next year. And to put together two starts in

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Speaker 1: a span of four in which you take a no

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Speaker 1: hitter into the ninth inning, that is just impressive. And

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Speaker 1: this kid has fought back from some difficult circumstances earlier

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Speaker 1: this year. That the motion and kudos to him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bowden, keep at it, kid. He was named after

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Speaker 3: Bobby Boden of the Florida State fame. All right, who

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Speaker 3: is your dork of the week?

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Speaker 2: Ken?

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Speaker 1: All Right, it's getting to the time of year now

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Speaker 1: where we've got to address the White Sox a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than we have one hundred and fourteen losses

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Speaker 1: as we speak. And let's look at what their general

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Speaker 1: manager Chris Gets said just the other day on the

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Speaker 1: rue hundred and twenty five loss pace Gets commented, if

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Speaker 1: you would have told me we would end up flirting

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Speaker 1: with the record, I would have been a little surprised. Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: problem there. Now, if you would have told me prior

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Speaker 1: to the year we would have ended up with over

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Speaker 1: one hundred losses one hundred, five hundred and ten, I

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Speaker 1: would not have been as surprised. Okay, this is the

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Speaker 1: problem with this statement. This is the cards we've dealt

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Speaker 1: at this point. You try and make the best of it.

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Speaker 1: WHOA wait a second, No one has dealt the cards

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Speaker 1: to the White Sox. Chris gets as the general manager,

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Speaker 1: and granted it's his first full year as general mager,

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Speaker 1: he dealt the cards himself. He dealt some of the players,

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Speaker 1: he lost some other players that he shouldn't have lost.

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Speaker 1: Things have happened. So I think what Chris Getz was

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Speaker 1: trying to say was we are where we are at

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Speaker 1: this point, and he just came out and said, these

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Speaker 1: are the cards we've been dealt. Listen, we've all said

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Speaker 1: things that we wish we had framed differently. I've probably

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Speaker 1: done it sixteen times in this show already. But that

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Speaker 1: said general marriage with the White Sox alone would merit

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Speaker 1: dork of the Week. And that quote, yeah he's dork

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Speaker 1: of the week this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you're sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I raise you seventeen and it's funny because those are

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Speaker 3: the cards that he's dealt.

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Speaker 2: He's the dealer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my my dork of the week is Edwin. You said,

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Speaker 3: U who decided that he was going to go ahead

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Speaker 3: and just plunk the Phillies. And Nick Costiano sude, he's

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Speaker 3: the last person on the Phillies lineup that I would

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Speaker 3: want to I mean, here's the thing. The Phillies already

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Speaker 3: had a nine to four lead in that game. He

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Speaker 3: decides to plunk them. If you don't like what's happening

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Speaker 3: at the plate, then pitch better. And I applaud the

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Speaker 3: Phillies for not retaliating in terms of hitting a guy.

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Speaker 3: You know, the next time up or the next time

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Speaker 3: these guys face each other, We'll see what happens next season.

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Speaker 2: Phillies are mature, more mature than this.

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Speaker 3: And you said, as my mindork of the week, that's

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Speaker 3: just uncalled for and immaturity.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Alta, and it kind of goes even

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Speaker 1: beyond that. That was the situation in this particular case.

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Speaker 1: But we've had wit Merrifield in recent weeks get hit

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Speaker 1: and complain about pictures going up and in and not

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Speaker 1: knowing where it's going, which is the way the game

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Speaker 1: is right now. Because everyone is so focused on ve Lo.

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Speaker 1: This needs to be cleaned up. I'm not sure how,

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Speaker 1: but pictures need to be more aware of the circumstances

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Speaker 1: of the game. That's one, and also just where the

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Speaker 1: ball is going. It's not good. We've had too many

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Speaker 1: guys hit and break their wrist this year. It's not

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Speaker 1: good happening, and.

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Speaker 2: Not for nothing. He said it was not intentional that

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Speaker 2: the ball got away from him. I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I necessary believe that. I think everybody says that.

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Speaker 2: That's what they were anyway, that's what they all say. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, that serve time now for our final thought.

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Speaker 3: I know that you're in New York for Boston and

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Speaker 3: New York. Doesn't matter what the records are, This one's

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Speaker 1: It is always a good time, and the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: It's kind of Alex Korra's pet thing, and he's pretty

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Speaker 1: good at so I'm looking forward to tonight. It's Cortes

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Speaker 1: Junior against Cooper chris Well, and the Red Sox are

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Speaker 1: barely hanging on, but they're hanging on, and they, i'm sure,

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Speaker 1: would love to mess with the Yankees a little bit, who,

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Speaker 1: of course, are in a race with the Orioles for

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Speaker 1: the Al East title. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If there's nothing else that the Red Sox would like

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Speaker 3: to do is spoil the Yankees season, if anyway that

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Speaker 3: they can do that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Foul Territory is next.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you being with Ken and I here on

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Speaker 3: fair Territory. Enjoy the folks on Foul Territory next, and

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Speaker 3: then Dodgers Territory comes up after that.

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Speaker 2: Ken of course is back with a brand new Fair

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Speaker 2: Territory on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us, Bye bye