1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is John, this is them Okay Storytime podcast hosts, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: and we have some. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Good story is coming up for you. That's right. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: But before that, we have a little more sol of 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: a two minute ad break from the sponsors keeping the 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: show delicious. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: My brother's ex wife made a controversial article about him 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: and it went viral. They say, all press is good press. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Right. You know how your. 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Android homepage pulls articles that thinks she would like to 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: read into a feed? 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Today the robots. 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Brought me a very dubious, present and apparently popular article 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: featuring my ex sister in laws let's call her Eve, 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: from one of those Facebook driven click bait sides. The 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: article is about my brother. By the way, this comes 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: from really cool people, and if you want to your 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: own story, go to our slash Okay stories. I'm sub bred, 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: so I don't want to link it as it uses 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: her real name and. 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Photos, but for context. 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: It got thirty three thousand shares and a video that 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: highlights the story, and it almost has two million views. 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: It's meant to be a love story about her real 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: profound struggle to leave her first husband, my brother who 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: will call Jim to be with her current partner. She 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: seems very happy with the new guy, which is great, 28 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: But she felt the need to introduce the story by 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: painting my brother as a fat shaming, dream crushing, emotionally 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: harmful be astered. Oh and she repeatedly returns to her 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: misery as his wife as a refrain. Let's be clear, 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: Jim's not a fat shaming, dream crushing, emotionally harmful disaster, 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: and nothing in this article revealed anything worrying about him. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: To me, I know more about the situation from both 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Jim and Eth than I honestly want to. Jim feels 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: things very deeply, but stinks at talking about it. His 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 3: big expressions of love usually involve kind acts, he never 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: mentions to anyone, and he hates spending money. He feels 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: deeply too, but her approach clashed with this. She's always 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: scaled the highs and lows of her life into public epics, 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: and her big expressions of love you involved big gifts. 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: They got married very young. She walked out on him 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: after ten plus years. They're both much better off. He 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: still blames himself for almost everything. The melodramatic article is 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: pretty par for the course, Eve, But as you might 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: deduce from the above, Jim is profoundly a private person. 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: He cares very much how others see him. I want 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: to curl up and pass away just thinking about how 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: much he would want to curl up and pass away 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: reading this article. Jim and I weren't close growing up, 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: but we are now. Like a lot of siblings, we 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: are simultaneously polar opposites and the same person. I act 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: more like an Eve than Jim. Case in point, I'm 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: asking about this on a Reddit, but he and I 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 3: can react to emotional situations in very similar ways. If 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: something like this was out there about me, I would 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: want to know, especially since real names and photos are 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: involved in the article. He's not named, but it's a 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: small town, and I would be devastated if my loved 60 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: one's new and didn't tell me. I live in another state. 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: I have no idea if he knows about the story. 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: Jim isn't a heavy Facebook user, but it's an important 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: news source to a lot of his friends. My family 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: has a bad habit of hiding things in order to 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: theoretically protect loved ones from pain, so I can't really 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: ask them. My personal impulse to tell him is at 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: war with the family habit and I genuinely don't know 68 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: which is best for us help kind strangers, and we 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: got some relevant comments. But I remember whenever I had 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 3: a video that went viral that like around two million views, 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: my face was on it. Not a lot of people 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: like said anything. But then I had a video that 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: me and John did for his Okay wraps and it 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: had ten million views and like four people out of 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: know where. It hit me up. 76 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: It was like, dude, I just saw you on this video. 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: This is crazy. So if it keeps getting viral, but. 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's just it's a matter of it sounds 79 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: like they like like they said, it's like they were 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: both better off. So it's just a matter of having 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: the conversation with the people it's it's relevant. 82 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: Flee Slayer, I think you should tell him you know 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: that you saw the article that you thought it was 84 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: unfair to him, and ask if he's aware out of it. 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: If he does already know, he might appreciate a sympathetic 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: If he doesn't know, he will probably much prefer to 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: find out from you. Then someone he isn't as close 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: to who might not choose their words carefully. Opie says, 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: thank you very much. This is the way I'm going 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: to go. I appreciate the advice on softening the blow 91 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: while being honest, our beetic robotic. This seems outrageously far fetched. 92 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: Is your brother a British prince or something? How would 93 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: Google even know to recommend some clickbait obscure article about 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: people in another state? Opie says, Lol, Yeah, it's all 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: a bit wild to me. She writes for the township 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 3: paper sometimes, and usually I get those articles in my feed. Yesterday, 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: another local paper featured her in one of those reverse 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: parodies teachers have been doing because of quarantine, and I 99 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: clicked on it. I assume that's why Google decided to 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: look for more stuff involving her and game Boy Path says, 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to link it as it uses real names. 102 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: Is Jim's full name listed in the article? How easily 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: could one deduce that the brother you personally know is 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: Jim is the same person that this author Eve is 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: talking about. I'm not a lawyer, but depending on the 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: nature of her writing, it may be slander if her 107 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: statements are both specific and falsifiable. Not to a lawyer, 108 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: but regardless of the legalities, if you're understanding of the 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: popularity of the article and Jim's social media network suggests 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: either he, a friend or a professional colleague could get 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: a hold of this article and its contents. You should 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: warn him. This could allow him to advance some notice 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: of knowing about the article before someone whose opinion he 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: cares about finds out. He can then prepare for any questions, concerns, 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: or backlash he gets. But do you think it's not 116 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: popular enough for that situation to happen. Then it's up 117 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: to you, hope, he says, thank you for the response. 118 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: I should half clarified. It contains the full names and 119 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: photos of his ex and her new partner, but my 120 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: brother is fortunately only referred to as the first husband. 121 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: You wouldn't have to do much sleuthing to google her 122 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: name and find his form wedding announcements, et cetera. But 123 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: it's not literally written in the article. Getting to the 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: edit edit, thank you all for the advice. I'm calling 125 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: them tomorrow after recruiting a close friend who could be 126 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: there in person at a socially safe distance to talk 127 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: after plus asking his wife to take the call with him. 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: Some people have asked about the emotional abuse thing. I'm very, 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: very confident about my understanding of our situation, but I'm 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: not comfortable sharing all the gory details here. I've removed 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: a couple of my comments below. I feel like I 132 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: said too much. I'm trying to avoid attacking Eve's character 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: more than my explanations already do, Plus avoid trying to 134 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: prove my brother's innocence for people unwilling to take me 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: at my word by dishing out even more stuff about 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: his private life, especially since it's all out of context, 137 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: to hopefully satisfy the curiosity a little bit without being 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: too huge of an ahole. The article and its content 139 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: are part of a long documented pattern of each choices 140 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: in a variety of life areas. Jim has only had supportive, 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: positive relationships outside this one, and has since gotten remarried 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: to an awesome woman who never hesitates to communicate openly 143 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: in a healthy way. 144 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: But people who do. 145 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: Report abuse should always be heard and assumed to be honest, 146 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: and their accusations should be seriously and fairly investigated. We 147 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: got an update one week later. 148 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: Is a lawyer involved or not? I'm saying no. I'm 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: saying no lawyer. 150 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that there's probably not enough there to 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: make the case worth it. You know how long that's 152 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: gonna I mean, it's gonna cost so much. It's gonna 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: cost a lot of money. It's gonna be drawn out, 154 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: and it's gonna bring more attention to whatever it is. 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: It's like I think, at the end of the day, 156 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: a situation like this, it's just gonna blow over. It's 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: gonna go away on its own. 158 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 3: As a positive update as there can be, my brother 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: aka Jim, and his wife aka April and I video 160 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: chatted a couple of days ago. Long story short, they 161 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: already knew and he's toughing it out like a jam. 162 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: They've been showered with support from all sides, which probably 163 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: makes him more uncomfortable than ever, but he seems to 164 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: at least appreciate the good intentions. We took a couple 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: of minutes a long, and Jim seems more worried about 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: the extra stress this inevitably puts on April than about himself. 167 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: Were better or worse. He told me he knows and 168 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: it's all bull and it doesn't quite feel real. I 169 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: flailed around trying to ask him to please call if 170 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: that ever changes, since I can reality check with him 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: from the era of Eve the X. I hope he would, 172 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: though I'm not sure how realistic it is to expect 173 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: that or assume that he wasn't just putting a rosy 174 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: Lenz on for me. April was able to tell him first. 175 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: One of Jim's friends called her soon after the article 176 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: caught fire to check on them. She looked it up 177 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: and talked to him right away. It's no one's first 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: experience with Eve's choices. Unfortunately, April's amazing and there really 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: couldn't be a better person to process this with him. 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: And guys, we can process more stories with you. You 181 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: go to your favorite freaking Comcast app search up. Okay, 182 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: story time right there, dude, We got we got a 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: lot of processing to do. We got a lot of 184 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: catch up on. They ended the call because the kids 185 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: were climbing like a jungle gym, begging to play Lego. 186 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: So they're already doing a great job helping him focus 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: on things that matter. Thank you again for all your help. 188 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: Good redditors. Edit. 189 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: This isn't a parable about how poor and innocent men 190 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: constantly have their lives ruined by horrible women through a 191 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: random accusations, harmful act. That parable is a BS narrative 192 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: concocted by sis straight men who don't know how to 193 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: cope with company at the top of the hill. This 194 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: has just happened to be the situation where you're in 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: need to just say that cheers. 196 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 197 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: But see now I don't get that because they're like, 198 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: that's not a thing, except it's the exact thing that 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: this guy went through. 200 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: But it doesn't happen. 201 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: But it's like we can say that things happen, and 202 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: that also people exaggerate sometimes. 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, people exactly. 204 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: Plus you gotta get clicks, dude, this is exactly got 205 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: to get Clixactly what happened to this guy? 206 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 207 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: People, But anyway, Yeah, it's not like it's happening to 208 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: every relationship. 209 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: I think was the point of that edit. I like 210 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: how this has turned out. 211 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: I think I am a fan of It's like, hey, 212 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 4: immediately he knew about it, had a support system around 213 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: him taking any easier, taking it breezier, trying to hang tough. 214 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: That's all you can do it and it'll blow over. 215 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: It will at some point go away. 216 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: I think there were some good points made though about 217 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: that that if if there is money made off of 218 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: this article, or money made off of these videos that, like, 219 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: I don't know depending on how much it is. 220 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: It's like it's probably not a lot, but like a 221 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: true it just depends. That's the end of that story. 222 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: Though my best these behavior is problematic, so I'm going 223 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: in no contact. 224 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: I just wanted you to buy our drinks. It's not 225 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: that big of a down. 226 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 4: There are three main events that have unfolded throughout this 227 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: debacle leading up to the decision. This first happened in 228 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: August of twenty twenty four. The second, and in my opinion, 229 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: the most damaging and detrimental, happened on Halloween of twenty 230 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: twenty four. The third happened just a few days ago. 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 4: And I have absolutely had it. I've always been incredibly 232 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: fortunate to have a family that I'm close with, so 233 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: this is not a decision I've made lightly. By the way, 234 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: this comes from user Zappi Zaza, and if you want 235 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: Okay story time I'm subreddit. But before I get to that, 237 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: I would like to give some context. My brother, who 238 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: will call Neville, and his very close friend Bartholomew, which 239 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: I will shortened to Bart, his close friend's girlfriend. 240 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: All of us are roommates. 241 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: Neville has always been a bit of a turd, but 242 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: lately he's been genuinely dismissive of me, and he has 243 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: this false sense of superiority because he makes more money 244 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: than I do, which is just ick. We weren't raised 245 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: that way, and I don't know why he's starting to 246 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: change like this, but that is beside the point. In 247 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: the beginning, Prudence and I got extremely close. We did 248 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: everything together. We learned about each other's deepest secrets, our fears, 249 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: our thoughts, et cetera. I would have trusted her with 250 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: my life. She always supported me when Neville would be 251 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: mean to me, validating the fact that I'm not just 252 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: being sensitive like he tells me I am. For example, 253 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: I said I forgot to clean the floors because I 254 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: didn't want to vacuum while everyone was asleep, and I 255 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: forgot to continue when everyone woke up. He told me 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: to stop being lazy and use the broom, but when 257 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: I got upset, he didn't mean it like that. There's 258 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: another example. I was in my underwear and he barged 259 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: into my computer room despite me saying do not come in, 260 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 4: and when he just came in. Anyways, he told me 261 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: to grow up and it's not a big deal and 262 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: he's not even lokay, just being ridiculous and disrespectful, but 263 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: being a brother. Nonetheless, Well, I started noticing strange little 264 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: things with Prudence, which looking back, I should have taken 265 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: as red flags. She would try to ask our friends 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: whose stomach of flatter. While we would all hang out, 267 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: She told me about how she's scared to trust women 268 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: because of a girl who tried to act inappropriately with 269 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: her boyfriend years ago, and I reassured her she didn't 270 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: have to worry about me because I don't find taken 271 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: men attractive, especially not my friends boyfriends, nor do I 272 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: find him specifically attractive him being Bartholomew. She said that 273 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: made her feel like crap, because she wants other women 274 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: to feel jealous that she has such a prize and 275 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: feel like she won. She constantly compared our front airbag sizes, 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 4: constantly talking about how she could help me look better 277 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: if she does my makeup because I don't usually wear 278 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: any except mascara, And when she would compare us, I 279 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: only ever lifted her up, telling her how gorgeous she is, how. 280 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: Her body has carried her through live to where she 281 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: is today. 282 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: How everyone's bodies are beautiful, and how there's so many 283 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: people out there who love her body type. 284 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I would 285 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: just gas her up. 286 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: The first red flag that I actually registered as a 287 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: red flag, as silly as it was, was all over coffee. 288 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: As roommates, we shared all our food. 289 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: We all went grocery shopping together and cooked meals with 290 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 4: and for each other, et cetera. 291 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: But we were also respectful about food sharing. 292 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: Bart who had bought coffee pods this time, and there 293 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: was only one left, so I didn't touch it. I 294 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: decided to forego it because I wanted to be respectful. 295 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: Later on, Prudence told me to go ahead and have 296 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: it because she was about to go get more for 297 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: him anyway, So. 298 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: I used it. I'm a coffee hollak, I am not 299 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: going to turn it down. 300 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: Well, Bart woke up and asked Prudence what happened to 301 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: the last coffee pod. Prudence, not knowing I was in 302 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 4: the computer room just around the doorway, and could hear 303 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: have told him that I drank it? 304 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: That was it? 305 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: Just that I drank the last one. I didn't think 306 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: much of it until I noticed that he started hiding coffee. 307 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: I decided to confront Prudence, and I asked her, Hey, girlie, 308 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: I know that Bart knows I had that last coffee, 309 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: and I noticed he's keeping his coffee to himself now, 310 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: which is totally fine. But I'm just wondering if you 311 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: told him about the portion where I had permission to 312 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: drink it from you. I don't want him to feel 313 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: like he has to hide his food or anything in 314 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: his own house. 315 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: And she went off. 316 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: She started saying she would never throw me under the 317 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: bus like that, and that she never said my name. 318 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: I said, well, first of all, I heard the whole conversation, 319 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: and secondly, I didn't take it as you throwing me 320 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: under the bus. I just thought you were telling him 321 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: what happened. I thought you just had a vague description. 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: I wasn't upset. I just don't want him to feel 323 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: like he has to hide things. She continued to deny 324 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: she ever said I drank it, and she literally said 325 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: she didn't believe me, so I just dropped it. It 326 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: wasn't worth it for me to continue arguing. A few 327 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: days later, she told me that she asked Bart if 328 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: that's what she said, and he confirmed it to her. 329 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: That was kind of frustrating that she couldn't just believe me, 330 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: But I was grateful Bart said it straight because I 331 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: felt incredibly unheard when I talked to her about it. 332 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: There were a few weird situations like this, like I 333 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: remember the first time she said something under her breath 334 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: after I walked away from an argument that was starting, 335 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: and I was so shocked that she would do that. 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: Things just got so uncomfortable from there. She stopped wanting 337 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: to do fun things like having our own snack drawer 338 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: in our computer room for just us, and I noticed 339 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: she also started to deny that Neville ever treated me 340 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: differently than other people. 341 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: She was playing mind games with you. 342 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: Now all because she's like, yeah, you can have it, 343 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: don't worry, I'm gonna get more. 344 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: And then you're like, hey, did you tell him that 345 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: you told me I could have that? No, I never 346 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: said that. I never said it. 347 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: The thing is is that she would always say things 348 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: like he doesn't like me more than you, which I 349 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: thought was strange. Never had I claimed that he liked 350 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: her specifically more than me, nor had we ever discussed 351 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: that prior. It was a weird and at the time 352 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: I thought a random shift in perspective. Later, Prudence confessed 353 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: to me that she and Neville kissed, even though she 354 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: is still in a long term relationship with bart. I 355 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: obviously told her how not okay it was. I gave 356 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: her the tough love talk, and I love her and 357 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: wanted to be honest, but I also didn't want my 358 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: brother Neville to get wrapped up in that bs well. 359 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: In August of twenty twenty four, we had a huge 360 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: verbal fight. Here's some more context. Prudence has a dog 361 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: and I have a cat. Prudence dog is food slash 362 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: attention aggressive and has twice attacked my cat. The first 363 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: time was because I stopped petting the dog to pet 364 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: my cat, and the second time was because I was 365 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: feeding my cat. Mind you, Prudence told me she knew 366 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: she could be aggressive, but didn't tell me she knew 367 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: her triggers, so both of those attacks could have been avoided. Thankfully, 368 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: I intervened quickly enough both times Prudence would just panic 369 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: and watch, so it didn't get too bad. The only 370 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: injury my baby had sustained is that her bottom fang 371 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: broke in half. But she's doing well physically. Now, she's 372 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: just traumatized, and I understand why. Still, I adore that dog. 373 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: I worked in VETMD for six years, two of those 374 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: in emergency, and I know it's not the pup's fault, 375 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: that's right, it's not the pups face. 376 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's the owner's fault. 377 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: Prudence worked at a pet chain store for a few years, 378 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: and that's actually part of why this blowout took place. 379 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: We were standing in the kitchen and out of nowhere, 380 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: she says, I've noticed you have anxiety around my dog. 381 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: Now. 382 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: I didn't feel the way that she thought, but I 383 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: did have anxiety about how she wanted her dog taken 384 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: care of, so I let her know that. When she 385 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: asked for examples, the first one I provided was that 386 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: she would go back and forth on if I was 387 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: or wasn't allowed to take her dog on walks. She 388 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: just completely denied that ever happening, despite her going back 389 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: and forth three times. Since I wasn't getting anywhere there, 390 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: I brought up a time when she got upset at 391 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: me for letting her dog inside from the backyard while 392 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: she was gone. I did it because living in southern California, 393 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: and it being the end of summer, it was one 394 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: hundred plus degrees outside. Prudence and Bartholomew had an appointment 395 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: to get his car service to the appointment ended up 396 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: being four hours long when it wasn't supposed to be 397 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: nearly that long. She always asks me to watch her 398 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: dog and allows me to let her in and out freely, 399 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: give her water freely, et cetera. So I didn't think 400 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: it would be bad. Prudence responded with, I got mad 401 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: because she was supposed to be outside. And I replied, okay, 402 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 4: I totally respect that, but I didn't know that and 403 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: that's not what usually happens. 404 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: Instead of just. 405 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: Acknowledging that I was confused, she asked, why did you 406 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: even let her in? Any way? I told her the 407 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: whole thing about the temperature and the time and being 408 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: allowed to do so in the past, and she just said, 409 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: it's not bad for dogs to be outside in the heat. 410 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: She's obviously fine. She's survived much worse, I said, Prudence, 411 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: I've literally watched dogs pass away from less than that 412 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: from being out in the field. And she just screamed, 413 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 4: she is so sorry. I have trauma, but she knows 414 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: what the f she's doing with her dog. I just 415 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: kept saying, and I respect that it's your dog. I 416 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: respect how you want her taken care of. Eventually I 417 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: just started saying okay because she wouldn't stop. She started 418 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 4: accusing me of judging her for leaving the dog outside, 419 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: which honestly you should. 420 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're judging you right now, girl. 421 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 4: I repeated again that I wasn't and that I respected 422 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 4: what she wanted. 423 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: It just didn't make sense to me. 424 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: She disregarded my clarification and continued to yell at me, 425 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: so I started yelling back and said I was done. 426 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 4: I cut off the friendship, and immediately after I ran 427 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: upstairs to try and talk to my brother because I 428 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 4: was having a panic attack and needed support. Unfortunately, I 429 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: started bringing up the way she was projecting about him 430 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: and her and how that was affecting me, and he 431 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 4: got very pissed. He started screaming that I was the 432 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: one that was projecting and that he can't effing help me. 433 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: After that, I distanced myself. I was so hurt, and 434 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: eventually things kind of settled down. Neville and I got 435 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: over things, and Prudence and Bart weren't really talking to me. Anymore, 436 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: so they was nice. They were leaving me alone, which 437 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: now brings us to Halloween of twenty twenty four. Prudence 438 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 4: decided to have some people over for a Halloween party 439 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: and extended the Olive branch by letting me know I 440 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: was welcome to join it. Since everyone she was inviting 441 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 4: was mutual friends, I was relieved, and I thought, maybe, 442 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: just maybe we could be civil or maybe even be 443 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: friends again. 444 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: But boy was wrong. 445 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: Things were okay for the majority of the night, but 446 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: there was a lot of booze flowing, and the later 447 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: it gets, the more of a problem that becomes. She 448 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 4: pulled me into a room and closed the door behind us, 449 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: got in my face and accused me of being wrong 450 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: in the argument we had about her dog. I asked 451 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: her why that even came up right now. She tried 452 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: to say that it had something to do with what 453 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: we were just talking about, but she had just been 454 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: wrestling with the guys she invited over. 455 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 2: We weren't talking about anything. 456 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: She was just wasted and she saw me, so it 457 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: came to mind, and she impulsively grabbed me and cornered me. 458 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: I just decided to let it go because I didn't 459 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 4: care about what she thought anymore at that point. A 460 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: few moments later, Pruden started making food in the air 461 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: fryer for everyone, but forgot she didn't started wrestling again. 462 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 4: I found the food half burnt but still edible, and 463 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: so to be kind, I finished making the food for 464 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: her and played it. I didn't realize that while I 465 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: was doing that, she was going around telling people that 466 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: I'd put the food in but burnt it all. I'd 467 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: only realized when she came to me and also tried 468 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: to convince me that I put the food in, and 469 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 4: another guest corrected her, saying she act actually put it in. 470 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: After that, I politely excused myself to bed. I knew 471 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: it was about to get messy and I didn't want 472 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: to be a part of it. I cozied up into bed, 473 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: door closed, grateful. I made it through the night without 474 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: any major issues, and then there was a knock at 475 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: the door. Knock, knock, aty knock. I wonder who it 476 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: could be. 477 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: So we already got bad, got through the bad part. 478 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 479 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 4: Prudence came in to tell me she thought I went 480 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: to bed because of the food thing, and that. 481 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: She really didn't care who put the food in, and 482 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: it wasn't a big deal. 483 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't know why I would do this, considering it 484 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: worked so well the last time, but I took the 485 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: opportunity to address the fact that I was a little 486 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: more upset about how she closed me in a room 487 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 4: and got in my face. She started saying she was 488 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: never talking about me, and I clarified that I was 489 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: referring to what she herself had said to me. She 490 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: just continued on about how she wasn't talking about me 491 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: to other people. So I just stopped her and told 492 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: her I don't want to talk anymore. She said, honey, 493 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to still be friends. I don't know 494 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: why you think I want to talk to you. I 495 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: stopped her and I said, no, no, no, I mean 496 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: this conversation right now. That pissed her off. She closed 497 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: my door and I just sighed whatever. I went to 498 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: get my phone that I had left out there, and 499 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 4: I heard her telling people that I was accusing her 500 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: of talking crap about me. I went into the room 501 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: and clarified again that no, I'm talking about what you 502 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: said to me. And then she started screaming, and I 503 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: mean blood curdling screaming. 504 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: That's not what you said, you're such a heavy liar. 505 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: I just said okay and turned around and went to 506 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: my room and closed the door. She literally followed me 507 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: and was screaming at me through my door. I opened 508 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: my door as she was yelling, and I had to 509 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: wipe her spit off my face from the screaming and 510 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: tell her she needs to leave me alone because I'm 511 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: not going back to jail over someone like her. At 512 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 4: that point, my brother Neville, heard the commotion finally and 513 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: came back downstairs. This was the beginning of a four 514 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: hour screaming match. I say match, but it was just 515 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 4: her screaming at me for letting her dog inside, then 516 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: for not helping her clean up after herself anymore because 517 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 4: she was mistreating me, for not wanting to share my 518 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 4: things anymore with her, because she was mistreating me, et cetera. 519 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: She started screaming in front of everyone, my secrets and 520 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: things that I've told her in confidence. She was calling 521 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 4: me the most vile things. She even said that my 522 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: cat doesn't deserve to leave my room. I could never 523 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: think anything bad about her dog. Thankfully, Neville saw the 524 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: second half of it all and he sat with me 525 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: for a while after Prudence was finally escorted off to 526 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: bed by Bart. I told Neville I was just grateful 527 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: that other people were there to witness what I've been 528 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: putting up with, and he apologized for not believing me 529 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: or listening to me when I tried to tell him 530 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: how bad it was. Even though Neville didn't really stand 531 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: up for me verbally that night, I was still glad 532 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: he stood with me while I endured all the things 533 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 4: she hurled at me. I thought that him witnessing that 534 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: was going to deter him from wanting to be with 535 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: her any further. I realized this is already incredibly long. 536 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: So if you guys want to hear about what went 537 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: down with the third main event, the one that has 538 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: me cutting off both my brother Neville and my roommate Prudence, 539 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 4: and by extension, cutting off Bartholomew sense he's Prudence's boyfriend. 540 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: Let me know, guys, guess what we're about to We're 541 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: about to know right now. We're just going right into it. 542 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to preface with the fact that there were. 543 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: Countless instances of Prudence being toxic in between these main events. 544 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into that. 545 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: I also want to mention that the home we are 546 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: renting is actually one of my childhood homes. We moved 547 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: there in twenty ten. And just to reiterate, Neville is 548 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: my brother, Prudence is my ex best friend, and Bart 549 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 4: is Prudence's long term boyfriend. Okay, anyways, remember how I 550 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: said that Prudence's dog has food and attention aggression and attacked. 551 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: My cat multiple times. Well, she doesn't watch. 552 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: Her dog all the time, and her dog roams around unsupervised. 553 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: This wouldn't be a problem to me if she wasn't 554 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: aggressive towards my cat. I am always keeping her dog 555 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: from eating out of the cat box, which is by 556 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: my room. 557 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: Her dog gets locked out of whatever. 558 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: Room Prudence is in frequently because Prudence gets annoyed that 559 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: her dog has a lot of energy and doesn't just chill. 560 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: We need a new law where if you get a dog. 561 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: And then you deny its existence and right to behave 562 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 4: and be a dog jail. It was inconvenient that I 563 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: have to also watch her dog, but the argument I 564 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: knew would happened wasn't worth bringing it up. That is 565 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: until the pup started coming into my room. Like I've mentioned, 566 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: I love this dog so much. My concern is that 567 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 4: if I wasn't in my room to stop her from 568 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: coming in and my cat was eating, my cat could 569 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: be unalived. My cat is my baby. I love her 570 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: as if she were a human child. So I sent 571 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: this message in the roommate group chat. Hey guys, please 572 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: please please if you're going to let the dog roam, 573 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 4: keep an eye on her. She has started trying to 574 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: come into my room and it is a safety issue 575 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: for both of our pets. I love her very much, 576 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: but that's just not acceptable. 577 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: Thank you. 578 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 4: And my brother Neville texted me this on the side 579 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 4: in private. Stop texting the group chat. They didn't intentionally 580 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: try to send the dog in there, and she's normally 581 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: being watched. Please, I'm overhearing every single problem that everyone has. 582 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 4: You won't have to deal with it much longer. 583 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 584 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 4: Oh this is the point where I'd done lost my 585 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: ish Ay. She is most definitely not always watched. And 586 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: b I'm not going to stop standing up for myself 587 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 4: just because he is uncomfortable. He said, it's just crazy. 588 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: I've taken it this far, like what me take it 589 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: this far? 590 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: You're just sitting a text in a group chat. What's 591 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: actually happening in Prudence's world, you have nailed the ninety 592 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: nine thesis of get away from me. 593 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: I think I think this op needed. 594 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 4: The ninety nine thesis is of when the frick you 595 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 4: move out of a place because your roommates are cycle. 596 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd I'd be looking around and be like, get out, actually, guys. 597 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to yeah, And then they'll be like, 598 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: what do you mean? 599 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: Why are you moving? 600 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 4: Why? 601 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: Why are you moving? 602 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: You've been like the position that puts. 603 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 4: It, and you go, hey, I'm moving because look at 604 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 4: what you're doing right now. 605 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: That's why I'm moving. 606 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: If I couldn't moved right away, what I would do 607 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 3: is have a friend that could take care of my cat, 608 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: give it to them for now, find a new place 609 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: to get into, stay until my leases up, work, maybe 610 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: a second job so I can stay away from those people, 611 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: and then just spend as last time as like anything 612 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: possible there please, And So I said, what's crazy is 613 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: how you've seen how she acts and you still want 614 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: to be with her behind your best friend back. 615 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: What's crazy is you won't support your own sister. What's 616 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: crazy is how delusional you all are. So Neville continued 617 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: on about how I'm just creating drama and I need 618 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: to stop texting the group chat. You want to know 619 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 4: the reasons I texted for Prudence left the stovetop on 620 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: with an open flame and everything for hours overnight. Someone 621 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: didn't shut the fridge, so everything went bad overnight, making 622 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: my bathroom off limits to them and their guests because 623 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: they had someone come over who was fighting and crying 624 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: all night with their significant other in my bathroom, keeping 625 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: me up until three am, and I woke up to 626 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: vomit everywhere in the morning, like at least clean it up, 627 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: and also just protecting my cat, so I'm not just like, oh, 628 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 4: you left the TV on? 629 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: You know? 630 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 4: Want to know what she gets upset about, calling me 631 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 4: weird for starting to write my name on my food, 632 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: you know, like normal roommate behavior, because she keeps eating 633 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: my food and I want to fixed income, so I 634 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 4: can't just go get more whenever I want to, saying 635 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: I need to stop turning off her light in our 636 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 4: shared office when she leaves it on all night. How 637 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 4: then to look at my stuff in the shared office 638 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: space that she isn't even paying for. 639 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean, she moved my. 640 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: Stuff out of the office after I'd already told her no, 641 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 4: which was crazy, because who do you think you are 642 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 4: and why do you think you have authority to do that? 643 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: She just wants me to be the bad guy so badly. 644 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: She refuses to take any responsibility, and my brother telling 645 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: me to just let bygones be bygones because she refuses 646 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 4: to apologize is insane. Both Neville and Bartholomew enable her 647 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: to be the way she is. She hasn't ever had 648 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: any real consequences for her actions, and that's why. 649 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: She acts like a child at her big age. 650 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: And by the way, my children, you can listen to 651 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: full episodes with stories like this on iHeartRadio and Spotify 652 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: and Apple podcasts and wherever you listen to podcasts, just 653 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: search Okay story Time, and there you will find every single. 654 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Story that we've ever said. 655 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: We do have a little bit more left here that 656 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 4: ope bringing up the fixed income. I think that is 657 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: probably a very big reason why they have not moved 658 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: out of the situation. Regardless, you have to figure out, 659 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: you have to start putting feelers, you have to contact 660 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: your friend. This is gonna end with that dog potentially 661 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: harming your cat, ye know, Like at that point, it's 662 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: like can't do it. You have to put a lot 663 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: of energy into moving out of this place as fast 664 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: as possible. I'm exhausted trying to beg my brother for support. 665 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm exhausted trying to tiptoe around the house to avoid 666 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: everyone as much as possible. I was even having nightmares 667 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: every single night. Now they happen only once in a. 668 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: While, Thankfully. 669 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: It's just heartbreaking to lose my best friend and my 670 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: brother all at once. Since I've decided to let go 671 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: of all that, I do feel a little lighter. Although 672 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: the sadness isn't gone, it feels so relieving to put 673 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: down some of that stress. Thank you all for taking 674 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: the time to read why I have cut off my 675 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: brother and ex best friend. 676 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: The delulu is delulu ing and that is the end 677 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: of that story. 678 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: How are you going to really cut them off when 679 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: you live with them still is my biggest question, and 680 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: I have an answer for that. 681 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: I think it's time for somebody. 682 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: To expose the truth about your brother and the prudence blackmail. 683 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: I think if you just blow up that entire situation, 684 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: they end up moving out on their own. So somebody's moving, 685 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: somebody's leading. 686 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: Let's rego back about twentyish minutes. 687 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't like black mounts. It's not blackmail. That's that's 688 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: not even a black that's that's black. 689 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: Mol black Mail is saying I'm gonna I have this thing, 690 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: and I would say it adjustment, don't. This is not blackmail. 691 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: This is just being like, Hey, Neville's making out with Prudence. 692 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: Nevill's hooking up with your girl. Go to Bartholomew and 693 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: say Nevill's hooking up with her. Okay, Okay, I just 694 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: I just thought you deserve to know. 695 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: I would have. I would want to know if I 696 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: was you No bad, not bad? What do you think you? Yeah? 697 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: And yeah, let that just let that blow itself like 698 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: you just watch it from a far hit your popcorn. 699 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: Ready, definitely lock the door, put the earmuffs on. I 700 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: don't know. Hey, it's Sean here. We're gonna get back 701 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: to this episode. But a quick three minute break with 702 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: aswerm More sponsors. 703 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: I discovered the truth about me and my girlfriend's relationship. 704 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: It changed everything. 705 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 5: I get a break up. 706 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: So for a quick background, my girlfriend twenty four and 707 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: I twenty seven, have been dating for around eight months now. 708 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: I first met her at a funeral of all places. 709 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't close to the deceased. They were a friend's uncle, 710 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: and I was just alonged to keep him company. By 711 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: the way, this comes from us throw away account nine 712 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: eight five eight five eight, and if you want to 713 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 714 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: Storytime Stumbrenny. In any case, I wasn't particularly sad looking. 715 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: I was talking with a family friend and smiling, which 716 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 4: she noticed and made a pretty morbid joke asking if 717 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: I put him in the casket. 718 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: It was so blunt. 719 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: I just sort of laugh snorted, and we got to 720 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: chatting all afternoon, ending up with her number in my phone. 721 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: By the end of it. 722 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: She was funny, witty, pretty, and a genuinely fun girl 723 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: to be around. So of course I took a chance 724 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: and asked her out, which she accepted rather eagerly. My 725 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: ego was through the roof at that. Little did I know. 726 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: I came home a little earlier from work last night. 727 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: I was covering a shift, and the bloke I was 728 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: covering came in anyway, so they didn't need me. 729 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: Anyway. 730 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: I came home earlier than planned and overheard my girlfriend 731 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: laughing with someone on her phone. I was about to 732 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: surprise her with a little jump skin when she said, 733 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: and I quote, I never meant for this whole thing 734 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: with my boyfriend to last so long. I'd never normally 735 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: date someone like him. So she spotted me shortly after, 736 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: saying that I admit I made a noise I can't 737 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: even begin to explain, and she heard me. I'd never 738 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: seen someone go that pale before. She was all wide, 739 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: teary eyed and quivering lips. Girlfriend then spent the next 740 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: hour or so confessing that she never planned to date me, 741 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: but once her friends found out she'd given me her number, 742 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: they found a pick of me online and apparently found 743 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: me too hilariously unattractive that girlfriend just had to fake 744 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 4: date me for a week to give me hope. 745 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: I wish I was joking. 746 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: Her friends and apparently girlfriend are all stuck in their 747 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: mean girl high school phase. Girlfriend agreed, but I guess 748 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: apparently forgot about it because we've been dating for eight months, 749 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: not one week. She told me that she was stupid 750 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: for agreeing with it, and that I really was a 751 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: good bloke and that she really did love me, but 752 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: she never expected to actually feel that way about me. Why, 753 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: Because I'm not her usual type of guy. When I 754 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: asked her to elaborate, she mumbled up, she didn't initially 755 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: find me attractive at all, but after dating for a 756 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: few weeks, she stopped caring about my looks. I admit 757 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: I sort of lost my temper here and called her 758 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: an immature waste of my time. I told her I 759 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: wished that she dumped me a week into dating, because 760 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: to find out all this crap eight months in when 761 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: I cared about her and loved her was effing foul 762 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: raining raining. 763 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: I thought, you love me? I do? 764 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: I do? 765 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 6: I did love you, but I don't know it was 766 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 6: all fake this whole time. 767 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 5: Go to prom with someone else. 768 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: I'm staying with my mom at the moment because I 769 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: need space to think and vent. Would I be the 770 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: a hole if I dump my girlfriend for this? No, 771 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: of course not. No. Do the scene where he's crying 772 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 4: out the window, like he's like holding the pillow and 773 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: he's like, do. 774 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 5: You want to be in a wrong com Do you 775 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 5: want to do the sane move dump your girlfriend you 776 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 5: can be sane, or do you want to have a 777 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: little spice to life be in a rom call. You 778 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 5: have to make the decision yourself. 779 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: Let's get rom COMI Wow, okay, did not expect this 780 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: much feedback. 781 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Boy. 782 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: So I've turned my phone back on and it's a 783 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: mess of text, voicemails and missed calls. I've only listened 784 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: to a couple, but she's absolutely sobbing her heart out 785 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: and pleading for me to come home so she could 786 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: explain nothing from her friends. Mind you jess her, which 787 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: says it all really no idea what to do? But 788 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: now I feel like rubbish? 789 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: Am I? 790 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: The A hole has no consensus here some comments? Is 791 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: she still friends with all those mean girls given that 792 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: she was chatting to one of them yesterday? 793 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so? How much? 794 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: Or two says not the a hole Even if you 795 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: didn't care about the joke part of it. She didn't 796 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: go out with you because she wanted to, but was 797 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: pushed by her friends. And then what did she give 798 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: a play by play after your first date? 799 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: Too, said friends? 800 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: Did she share your intimate moments with the friends? Was 801 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: your first kiss us with Joe? Was she hesitant to 802 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: kiss you because of the joke? 803 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 5: Did she she even sing I love you baby in 804 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 5: the bleachers while you played soccer? 805 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: It's thoughts like that that would drive me nuts, because 806 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: at what point did her joke turn into real affection 807 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: or was she cringing and flinching for those first few dates? 808 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: How can you be with someone who thought you were 809 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: gross for how long? Weeks? 810 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: Days? Not the a hole? Op says, that's the same 811 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 4: crap on my mind. I mean, she didn't act strange 812 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: or hesitant when we started dating. It was funny and 813 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: cute and demanded we hold hands on our second date. 814 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: But was it all a funny story to tell her friends? 815 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: Was she laughing at how pathetically happy I was dating 816 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 4: someone out of my leave. 817 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 818 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 4: It's driving me insane thing about it. I've already chucked up. 819 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: I just feel sick and tired and used. Would oh 820 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: you be able to forgive and move on, Opie says, 821 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know. I love her, she loves me, apparently, 822 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: but I was a dare date to her, something funny 823 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: to give hope and then dump once she got her jollies. 824 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: That she gave up that plan is nice, I guess, 825 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 4: but I still feel ugly and laughed at. I really 826 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 4: don't know. I have no idea if she even cares. 827 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 4: I haven't even looked at my phone. It's been turned 828 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: off since last night. Struggling with the fact that my loving, funny, 829 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: very kind girlfriend is apparently a lying, using, mean girl 830 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: who only dated me to break my heart. Sure she didn't, 831 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: but she never told me about it. I found out 832 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: by accident. Was she laughing about it with her friends 833 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 4: for months? I have no idea, but the thought makes 834 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 4: me ill. I've already up chucked dressing over it downvoted 835 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: comment here. Really you want to leave her because she 836 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: loves you for you? I'm pretty sure there's romantic movies 837 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 4: with this setup. It's as the dare, but then he 838 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: or she fell in love with the person. Does it 839 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: really matter that it was the dare? She loves you 840 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: for you, your personality that's amazing. You probably already know 841 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: if she's prettier than you, and how her former boyfriends 842 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 4: look like. So the only surprise is that it wasn't 843 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: love at first sight. What a strike of luck that 844 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: her friends had dared her to date you. If they hadn't, 845 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 4: maybe she wouldn't have found out what an amazing person 846 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: you are. Oh, he says, It's really got nothing to 847 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 4: do with how unattractive she finds me. It's more the 848 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 4: fact that for eight months she never told me the 849 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: truth that she's still friends with those girls. That I 850 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: had no idea, but can guess, given that I heard 851 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: her laughing about it, that she still laughs with her 852 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: friends about me. I feel used and ugly and small, 853 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, that's the point is that you heard her going, aha, 854 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: I never thought I'd be dating this ugly sack of 855 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 4: crap first ap. 856 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 5: Oh, three months. Can you believe that the thing is? 857 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 5: Commented her. It would have been a rom com had 858 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: she dropped the friends and gone to the prom and 859 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: gone upstage and been like, I need to make a 860 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 5: fool of myself because I need you to know that 861 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 5: I love you, and then Avril Levine's I'm with You. 862 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: Place March fourteenth, two days later. 863 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 4: I eventually turned my phone back on after making the 864 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: original post and was bombarded with voicemails and texts and whatnot. 865 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 4: I only listened to a couple, and girlfriend was sobbing 866 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 4: her heart out on all of them, more or less 867 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 4: begging me to come home and let her explain. Be fair, 868 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: I didn't really have much choice but to eventually go 869 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 4: back home anyway. It's a house chair and I pay 870 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 4: rent to live there. Plus my own mom was basically 871 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 4: nudging me back out to let girlfriend explain herself. Back 872 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 4: home the next day and she pretty much tore out 873 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 4: of her room and threw herself at me. She was 874 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 4: sobbing and trying to talk, but kept crying too hard 875 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: between her words to sound coherent. I know I should 876 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 4: have probably been angrier, but I hate seeing her cry. 877 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: And she wasn't just crying. She was sobbing so hard 878 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 2: she was having trouble breathing. 879 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: At a few points, I got her to sit down 880 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 4: and ask her to explain exactly why I should stay 881 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: with a woman who not only got with me as 882 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: a dare but also still laughed about it with her 883 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: vapid friends. Eight months on. A lot was said and 884 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: summarize it so this update doesn't take all night. She 885 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: more or less said this fake names and paraphrasing girlfriend. 886 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 4: I didn't mean to ask you out on a dare. 887 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 4: I wanted to date you before they even knew about you. 888 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 4: I gave you my number first. Remember when Stacey and 889 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: Tina found out I gave you my number, they looked 890 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 4: you up on Facebook and found it hilarious that you 891 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 4: were even trying with me. So they got this stupid 892 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: effing dare thing and told me to do it to 893 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 4: give all uglies in the world hope me. 894 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: Wow, real mature, you do remember what you said on 895 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 5: the phone to whoever it was right? That you never 896 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 5: meant for us to last this long. You told me 897 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't your type? What's your type? Girlfriend? 898 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 4: Not me? Right? 899 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 5: Too ugly for you? 900 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: Stop seeing that You're not ugly, You're just not the 901 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: type of bloke. I'd have picked a date long term. 902 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: But I was wrong, babe. Look at us. We've lasted 903 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 4: nearly nine mine. I love you too much, I really do. 904 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 4: How can I prove it to you? 905 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 5: How? I don't know? Girlfriend? I'm not girlfriend? 906 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: No girlfriend? 907 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 5: I love you too, But all I can think about 908 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 5: is you laughing about me behind my back to them. 909 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 5: How can I trust you anymore? 910 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: I mean, A wasn't meaningfully laughing you. I swear I 911 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: want one. I just do you know how to handle 912 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: Tina any other wee? She's always been like us, and 913 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 4: I just go along with it to keep the path. 914 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 5: So you'd rather keep the beast than stand up for me? 915 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying, you're totally like to see 916 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 4: my words be able. 917 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm not God? 918 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 5: Why should I stay with you? Girlfriend? Seriously, give me 919 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 5: a reason. You laugh behind my back. You dated me 920 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 5: on a dare given to you by Tina and Stacy, right, 921 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: and you're still friends with them. You chose them, and 922 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: they're cruelty over us and. 923 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: What we have. 924 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 4: But we've been like friends for years though. I give 925 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: up at this point. It was just back and forth 926 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 4: of me trying to walk away and her professing her 927 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 4: love and defending her friendship with the wonder Twins while 928 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: trying to make me sit back down. I don't know, guys, 929 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 4: I'm back home. She's constantly trying to have another talk. 930 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm tired, don't know what to do. I don't know 931 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: what to say. Advice would be wonderful because I'm very 932 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 4: tempted to just pack it in. And there are some 933 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 4: comments here. Comment ones is I have too much pride 934 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: to stay. I'd be second guessing every all the time. 935 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: How exhausting comment to from what I've read. Girlfriend failed 936 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 4: to resolve the situation. She continues to defend her friends, 937 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 4: dismissing their behavior by saying it's just the way they are. 938 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 4: She remains close with these friends, laughs with them at 939 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 4: Op's expense, joins in their jokes about him, and allows 940 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 4: them to disrespect him without taking any action. Despite all this, 941 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 4: she chooses to maintain her friendship with them. To me, 942 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 4: this feels like siding with her friends over her boyfriend. 943 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: Where has she stood up for him? Where has she 944 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: defended him? Where has she expressed disagreement with the jokes 945 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 4: and the disrespectful comments aimed at him? I just don't 946 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 4: see it. And there's a third comment. Okay, this update 947 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 4: just confirms she's not taking responsibility. She's trying to gaslight 948 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: you with twisting my words and I love you, but 949 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 4: her actions speak louder. She chose those friends over you, 950 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: and she's still trying to justify it. Keeping the peace 951 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 4: is just a cop out for not having a backbone. 952 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: You deserve someone who will stand up for you, not 953 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: laugh at you behind your back. And her I didn't 954 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 4: mean to act. Oh my god, believe she still knew 955 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 4: what she was doing. Don't let her tears and love 956 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: declarations manipulate you. She's shown you who she is. Believer, 957 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 4: Pack your stuff and go. You'll find someone who respects you, 958 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 4: and there's another update. This should be the final update. 959 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 4: You'll see why. So here it is. I'll be brief 960 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 4: with this because frankly, I'm done with it all. I 961 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: tried one last time to get any sort of sense 962 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: from girlfriend. I sat her down and told her that 963 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 4: I'm hurt and beyond disappointed that she didn't have the 964 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: spine to stand up to her friends, that she'd rather 965 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 4: keep the peace over defending the man she repeatedly claims 966 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 4: to love. Girlfriend got angry, told me I was putting 967 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 4: her in a position she couldn't possibly win. If she 968 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: had to go at her friends, she'd lose them but 969 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 4: keep me, But if she refused, she'd keep them but 970 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 4: likely lose me. She told me she genuinely didn't know 971 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 4: what the f to do. I said that as long 972 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 4: as she's enabling Tina and Stacy's crappy personalities, he'll never 973 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 4: stop being their doormat. She just went quiet at that 974 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 4: point and said it was only Tina and then just 975 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 4: kind of shrugged. So I told her that the fact 976 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: she was even struggling to make a choice between them 977 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 4: and defending our relationship was enough of an answer for me. 978 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: I told her that while I'm not the most attractive 979 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 4: fella and her friend not the most attractive blow. I 980 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 4: told her that while I'm not the most attractive bloke, 981 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 4: her and her friends were far uglier than I could 982 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 4: ever be, and I deserved. 983 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: But you're ugly on the inside. 984 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a real I might not be the hottest man, but. 985 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: You're ugly on the inside, and only say it. And 986 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 4: I'm going to call you Sea. 987 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: I want you to want me. I need you to 988 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: watch that movie I broke up with her. It was 989 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: messy easy. 990 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: She got physical, not violent, just grab it on to 991 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: me real tight, trying to kiss me. While that's pathetic, 992 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 4: she was also full on cry. 993 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 994 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 4: I've seen her cry and get mad, but I've never 995 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 4: seen her like that before. It genuinely disturbed me. I left, 996 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 4: and I'm back at my mom's for a bit. Now. 997 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 4: I know I'm not a kid anymore. I'm twenty seven, 998 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 4: but my mom and I have always had a really 999 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 4: good relationship. So I told her everything. You listened and 1000 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: didn't interrupt until I was finished. And then she pretty 1001 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 4: much said, what a lot of you told me. You 1002 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 4: told me I'm handsome. 1003 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 6: Handsome, it's so handy, boy. And then she's that's that's 1004 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 6: Witchkota's mom did today you so hand. 1005 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, she would see like the Grandma's like, you're gonna 1006 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 4: have so many girlfriends. 1007 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 5: You know you're gonna have so many girlfriends. Look at 1008 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 5: this little lady Kila. 1009 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 4: She told me that girlfriend is a silly girl who 1010 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 4: will never have any kind of meaningful relationship as long 1011 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: as she lets her friends bully her around. And then 1012 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 4: she told me that I'm young, and I'll find someone 1013 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: who loved me so much that she'll fight tooth and 1014 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 4: nail to defend me. I won't lie. I cried a bit. 1015 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 4: It felt good to feel worth something for a while. 1016 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 4: Aw I didn't really realize how little I felt that 1017 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 4: way with girlfriend until that conversation with Mom. 1018 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: She even made me an apple crumble. 1019 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 5: Yay. 1020 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 4: Mom made me apple crumble after she told me I 1021 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: was huntsome, and I felt I was on top of 1022 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 4: the woe. My younger brother twenty mail, still lives with 1023 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 4: her too. He's been dominating my butt at chess. Bloke's 1024 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 4: a wizard, I swear. Mom and I had a long 1025 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 4: chat about my living arraignments and have decided that I'm 1026 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 4: going to move back in with her in a couple 1027 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: of months. I've spoken to the agency and unfortunately they 1028 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: won't let me end the contract early without a payout 1029 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 4: for the remaining months. So I'm just gonna stick around 1030 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 4: till then and. 1031 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 5: Go, Honestly, if you're already going to be living with 1032 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 5: your mom, why not just live with your mom? Like, 1033 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 5: presumably are you paying to live with your mom? Because 1034 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 5: if you're not paying to live with your mom, you 1035 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 5: might as well just like. 1036 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 4: You can go pick up your stuff slowly wait to 1037 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: move on from my crappy x and be like, oh, 1038 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 4: where do you live with my mom? 1039 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: Would my mom? 1040 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 4: Mom? 1041 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: You know what? Honestly, but mom sounds good. 1042 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 4: It's a very American slash Western culture thing till yeah, 1043 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 4: to be like. 1044 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 5: No, you can't live with your parents. It's like super 1045 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 5: super common in most other places. 1046 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: Like pretty much everywhere else, like stay close together. But 1047 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 4: also like people don't move as much as a Americans do. 1048 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 4: Americans move around all the time, and a lot of places, 1049 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 4: a lot of people are like pretty pretty uh not stagnant, 1050 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 4: that's not the right word, but like stationary. 1051 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there. 1052 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 4: We go. There's like a radius that they don't typically leave, 1053 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 4: and it allows families to stay closer together. It's gonna 1054 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 4: be awkward since we have to live in the same 1055 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 4: house for a bit longer, but I'll manage. I know 1056 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 4: some of you really wanted me to work it out 1057 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 4: with her, but frankly, I have too much self respect 1058 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 4: to stay with someone who doesn't care enough to defend 1059 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 4: me from her friends. 1060 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: Who are those people telling you that? 1061 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: Like? 1062 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 2: Were they? Her friends were a bunch of like bots that. 1063 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 5: She made Besides that one common it was like, it's 1064 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: like a rom calm, Like, who's saying that? 1065 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 4: Not to mention whatever the heck she was trying to 1066 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 4: do before I dipped out. It seriously freaked me out, 1067 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 4: and by the way, you would be seriously freaked out 1068 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 4: by how many full episodes with stories like this we 1069 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 4: have available for you to listen to on Spotify, on iHeartRadio, 1070 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 4: on Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. 1071 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: Just search the name of our show, Okay, story time, 1072 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 2: and you will find a little treasure trove of you 1073 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: to dig through. We have a little bit most story here. 1074 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm leaving, You're leaving. 1075 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 5: I'm gone, dude, I've been gone man, I'm leaving me. 1076 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 5: I'm I'm falling in love with the neighbor next door. 1077 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm leaving, I'm showing up. 1078 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 5: And then she's the girl next door is playing as 1079 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 5: I walk over to her out. 1080 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Banks, Reddit, you all help me make a choice 1081 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 4: between staying and sacrificing my self respect to be with 1082 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 4: a woman who doesn't truly love me as much as 1083 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 4: she claim for leaving her in the hopes that i'd 1084 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 4: find someone better run day. I hope I chose right, 1085 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 4: but I guess only time will tell. Thank you all. 1086 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: There's some comments here still not the a hole. You 1087 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: made the right choice. Listen to your mommy. She's the 1088 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 4: only woman in this whole mess that has any sort 1089 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: of sense in her head. As for you crying about it, 1090 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 4: all good pry. You apparently needed it. I wouldn't even 1091 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 4: wait until you've paid it all off, op, get your 1092 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 4: things and go stay with your mom. No telling what 1093 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 4: your ex will do. You've got two months left, right 1094 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 4: and off tim get out of there. Come in er 1095 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 4: two says good for you. I'm proud of you for 1096 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 4: standing up for yourself. Please have someone with you when 1097 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: you go gather your things and record if needed to 1098 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 4: help protect yourself. He's unhinged and will likely lash out 1099 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 4: come in you three says so sorry, man, but seriously 1100 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 4: pay out the lease. Absolutely nothing good will come from 1101 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,439 Speaker 4: living with your ex. He'll either keep trying to force 1102 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 4: you to reconsider or switch over after her tox friends 1103 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 4: get into her head and start treating you like crap. 1104 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 4: Neither of those are worth staying for, and the cost 1105 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 4: to get out of it will be so worth it. 1106 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 2: Best of luck going forward, and that is. 1107 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 5: The end of freaking lovely. You got out of there. 1108 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 5: Got out of there to have a rom com moment. 1109 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 5: But that's okay. There is a lot of different rom complots. 1110 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: We don't have to do this one rom realism. 1111 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 5: We can do Tending How to Lose a Man at 1112 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 5: ten Days. 1113 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 4: We could do the Devil Wears Prada. That's not a 1114 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 4: rom com kinda No, it's crazy. Well, yeah, who's the 1115 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: guy from the Sight of the Concords. 1116 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a rom com though, Well, I mean 1117 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 5: he's already dating someone in that and then they like 1118 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 5: almost break up. 1119 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's story. Hey it's Sam. We're going to 1120 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: get back to these stories. But here's three minutes of 1121 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: ads from our sponsors. 1122 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 5: My boyfriend's best my friend crossed boundaries and I won't 1123 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 5: tolerate it. 1124 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: I will not tolerate this act of aggression. 1125 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 5: This story happened in twenty twenty two. My twenty one 1126 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 5: female boyfriend's twenty three male mom, Camille thirty eight female, 1127 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 5: got married in June twenty twenty two. It was a 1128 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 5: beautiful day and we were all so excited for this day, 1129 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 5: as was I because I tried my best to help 1130 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 5: her with anything possible. By the way, this comes from 1131 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 5: Ashley JTPSV and if you want to smit your own stories, 1132 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 5: good our slashokey story Time suppared it. His mom is amazing. 1133 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 5: I did not grow up with a mom, so she 1134 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 5: was truly like a mother to me. When I got 1135 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 5: punted out of my dad's house at eighteen, she took 1136 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 5: me in and helped me get up back on my feet. 1137 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 5: She supports me to this day. The wedding was beautiful. 1138 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 5: My boyfriend Isaac walked her down the aisle and it 1139 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 5: was the most beautiful moment. But I wasn't the only 1140 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 5: one who thought so. My boyfriend Isaac invited four of 1141 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 5: his closest friends to the wedding Mike twenty five male, 1142 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 5: Jennifer twenty one female, Liam twenty two male, and Ashley 1143 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 5: twenty two female. I've met these friends from the very 1144 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 5: beginning of me and Isaac's relationship. I love them. My 1145 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 5: boyfriend is very family and friend oriented, and I could 1146 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 5: see why these people were close to him, because they're 1147 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 5: amazing friends. When the reception was over, we all went 1148 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 5: into the venue and waited to be seated. I walked 1149 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 5: over to my boyfriend's friends and started talking with him. 1150 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 5: Ashley immediately said, Wow, Isaac looks so good in a suit. 1151 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 5: I've never seen him one before. I just agreed, because, yeah, 1152 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 5: he looked dang good. By the way. I've never been 1153 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 5: a jealous partner. I've never had it in me. I 1154 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 5: was always okay with him having girl best friends, as 1155 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 5: I always had guy best friends as well, so I 1156 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 5: didn't really react when she said this. As we all 1157 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 5: sat down, Ashley told my boyfriend Isaac to sit next 1158 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 5: to her so he could sit across from me instead 1159 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 5: of next to me. I thought this was a bit odd, 1160 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 5: but Jennifer was already sitting next to me, so it 1161 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 5: was fine. We all started eating and talking and Ashley 1162 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 5: kept wanting to take selfies with my boyfriend Isaac for memories. 1163 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 5: She's always recorded everything. She's a small YouTube channel, so 1164 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 5: again I didn't truly see anything wrong with this, except 1165 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 5: for the fact that she wasn't really recording anyone else. 1166 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 5: For the wedding, I was on cake duties. I had 1167 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 5: made a four layer faux cake for his mom and 1168 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 5: ordered the actual sheet cake for her. When we finished eating, 1169 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 5: they let me know to go to the kitchen and 1170 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 5: put a slice of the real ca in the space 1171 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 5: empty for the real one so his mom and stepdad 1172 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 5: could cut the cake for pictures. I left the table, 1173 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 5: and as I was finishing, I heard his mom the 1174 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 5: bride yelling at the distance. I ran out immediately. Apparently, 1175 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 5: while I walked away, a random woman who looked to 1176 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 5: be about mid thirties walked into the wedding, pretending to 1177 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 5: be a guest, saying she came with the DJ. When 1178 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 5: the DJ was asked, he said he had never seen 1179 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 5: this woman in his life. The random woman started recording 1180 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 5: the wedding, saying racial slurs to his mom. My boyfriend's 1181 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 5: mom is from Philly, so if you knew her, you 1182 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 5: know she does not play. Why did this woman just 1183 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 5: show up to a wedding and say Rachel? 1184 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,760 Speaker 2: Why did she roll in and start slurring? That's so strange. 1185 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 5: Why She then started yelling at her to get out, 1186 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 5: snatch the random woman's phone out of her hand, and 1187 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 5: was pulling her out of the venue. My boyfriend was 1188 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 5: falling along behind her and sober his friends, but Ashley 1189 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 5: was holding onto his arm tight. Everyone was outside and 1190 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 5: my boyfriend and his friends went to talk to the 1191 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 5: security guard and told him what happened because the random 1192 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 5: woman had apparently sat in my seat with them while 1193 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 5: I was gone. The woman left in handcuffs and everything 1194 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 5: was fine for now. Later on, after her everything, the 1195 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 5: party began. We all started dancing and drinking. It was 1196 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 5: a fun time. Then one of my boyfriend's moms, bridesmaids 1197 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 5: and best friends, Patricia thirty seven, female, pulled me aside 1198 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 5: and wanted to talk to me. She asked me who 1199 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 5: actually was and why she was so close to my boyfriend. 1200 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 5: I explained how she was one of his closest friends 1201 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 5: and how that's just how she is. She then told me, girl, 1202 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 5: you're way better than me. 1203 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 2: She looks like. 1204 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 5: She's trying to make it seem like she's his girlfriend, 1205 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 5: not you. I was a bit confused. I had never 1206 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 5: seen it that way, and assured her that would never happen. 1207 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 5: My boyfriend had been introducing me to his family all night, 1208 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 5: since a lot were coming in from out of town, 1209 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 5: and it was my first time meeting a lot of them, 1210 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 5: so there's no way anyone else would think that. Then 1211 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 5: I remembered earlier when we were outside, one of my 1212 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 5: boyfriend's uncles was standing behind me and was asking another 1213 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 5: man there if the girl holding Isaac's arm was his girlfriend. 1214 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 5: That was when I turned around, introduced myself and told 1215 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 5: them no, that I was his girlfriend. I didn't say 1216 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 5: anything to my boyfriend's mom's bridemay at that moment. I 1217 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 5: just laughed it off and went on with a night. 1218 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 5: Probably not even an hour later, another one of my 1219 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 5: boyfriend's family members pulled me aside near the bathroom and 1220 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 5: asked me if Ashley liked Isaac. Is he just from 1221 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 5: a whole family of postures. There's a lot of people 1222 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 5: per starting the spot. 1223 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 2: These are some people who don't know how to be delicate. 1224 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 5: Why are we making trouble on? 1225 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 4: Oh? 1226 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 2: Pease stop it? 1227 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 5: For Op's boyfriend's mom's wedding. Stop being troublesome as you're 1228 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 5: so troubling. I was like, what, No, not that I'm 1229 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,439 Speaker 5: aware of why? She tells me, Well, it really looks 1230 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 5: like that, and from what I've heard, I'm not the 1231 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 5: only one that thinks this. Uh oh, got just gossipping 1232 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 5: at the wedding. 1233 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 4: Why aren't we trying to, like, you know, I mean, 1234 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 4: maybe it's coming from a good place of like, hey, 1235 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 4: wake up, wake up, she's trying to steal your man. 1236 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 2: Wake up. 1237 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 5: That's when my face turned red. I was so embarrassed 1238 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 5: and everything hit me all at once. She has always 1239 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 5: acted like this, and it made me realize that my 1240 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 5: non jealous ways let a lot slip throughout our relationship. 1241 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 5: I decided in that moment to pull my boyfriend to 1242 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,439 Speaker 5: the side to have talk. As I was talking to him, 1243 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 5: I could tell he was already a bit upset, but 1244 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 5: trying to be in a good mood for his mom, 1245 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 5: because we had found out that morning his great grandmother, 1246 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 5: his mom's grandma, had passed away after a long time sick. 1247 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 2: No. 1248 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 5: I knew this as well, but was keeping it quiet 1249 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 5: so his mom wouldn't find out. When I was talking 1250 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 5: to my boyfriend. I was telling him what his family 1251 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,399 Speaker 5: was telling me, and that I was feeling a little embarrassed. 1252 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 5: I explained how that's one thing I hate to be, 1253 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 5: especially in front of a bunch of family of his 1254 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 5: I'm meeting for. 1255 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: The first time. 1256 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 5: He was telling me that what they're saying is crazy, 1257 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 5: and that I know how she is already assuring me 1258 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 5: that they're friends and that nothing would ever happen with her, 1259 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 5: especially if he's with me. I then explained, how I 1260 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 5: know all of this, and I've never felt any jealousy 1261 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 5: towards her because I know they're good friends and that's 1262 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 5: always been fine. But I just wanted him to have 1263 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 5: more boundaries with her. And even though I know there's 1264 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 5: nothing between them, it's just the way it looks. It 1265 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 5: makes us look bad. 1266 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: It's a matter of principle. At that point, I believe a. 1267 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 5: Switch flipped in him and he started getting upset, saying 1268 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 5: he didn't really have time for this, he was just 1269 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 5: trying to have a good time. At this point, I 1270 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 5: started tearing up because daddy issues ellowop, but I just 1271 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 5: excused myself and went to the bathroom. As I was 1272 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 5: in there cleaning myself up. Ashley and Jennifer followed me, 1273 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 5: and they were asking me what was wrong. I turned 1274 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 5: around and explained the situation. Ashley looked at me and laughed. 1275 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 5: She started acting very clueless and said how she just 1276 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 5: loves Isaac and his family a lot, so of course 1277 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 5: she wants to seem closer to him in front of 1278 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 5: his family than me. So she just admitted it. Hm, 1279 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 5: so she was just like, yeah, that's totally normal. 1280 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I want his family to like me 1281 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 2: more than you. Yikes, is that weird? 1282 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 5: I was baffled. I told her that was exactly the problem. 1283 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 5: The only reason I hadn't been by my boyfriend's side 1284 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 5: the whole time was because I was helping his mom 1285 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 5: out during the wedding, from decorating to helping her with 1286 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 5: her dress and being in charge of the cake, which 1287 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 5: obviously I was more than happy to do. After that, 1288 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 5: that's when Ashley said, well, I didn't do anything wrong, 1289 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 5: and Jennifer turned to her and said, well, you're very friendly. 1290 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 5: You can be too much sometimes, and yeah, there's never 1291 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 5: been a problem before because we all know how you are, 1292 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 5: but to act like this in front of Isaac's family 1293 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 5: is very inappropriate, especially in front of everyone, like, you 1294 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 5: have the right. 1295 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 4: To dang Jennifer, Snap, dang Jennifer, Jenifer just snap. 1296 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 5: Thank goodness, Jennifer was in the bathroom. She's got your 1297 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 5: back up. Yeah, that's when Ashley gaped and said, I'm 1298 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 5: just being my If she doesn't like that, then she 1299 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 5: should just handcuff herself to a man with her insecure. 1300 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 5: But I don't condone violence, but in that moment, she 1301 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 5: deserved it. I slapped her and walked out. Ah, you 1302 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 5: lost your high ground now, dude, you lost it. You 1303 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 5: lost your high ground. Will Smith does that you? Dude? 1304 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: Is that you will? 1305 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 5: After like obviously crazy comment from her, that's what made 1306 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 5: you slap her. Yeah, you're the able for the slap. 1307 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 5: I was done. I wasn't going to deal with this. 1308 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 5: My head was spinning going back thinking of everything I missed. 1309 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 5: Liam and Mike were outside and I told them everything. 1310 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 5: They were assuring me that they had noticed her actions 1311 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 5: too and made me feel less crazy. But putting my 1312 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 5: hands on her was also wrong. 1313 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1314 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 5: I should have been the bigger person and just left 1315 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 5: her alone, because no matter what, she's never going to 1316 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 5: truly change. But you know what, else never changes the 1317 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 5: fact that you can listen to full episodes of stories 1318 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 5: just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or 1319 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio and search a bookcase story time. 1320 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 2: That'll never change. 1321 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 4: I love that that little burst of perspective we got 1322 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 4: at the end there where they're like, yeah, I guess 1323 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 4: I should have done that, because nothing's gonna make her. 1324 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 5: Change exactly like that was. Yeah, So you can't really 1325 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 5: done that, especially not on the day of your your 1326 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 5: boyfriend's mom's wedding or the day of her boyfriend's grandmother's passing. 1327 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 5: The day it seems like you started. You were stirring 1328 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 5: up a lot of drama that could have that could 1329 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 5: have been dealt with people. To be fair, she didn't. 1330 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 4: Really stir it up. She just got caught in the shoes. Yeah, 1331 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 4: she got caught in the cyclone. 1332 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: That's fair. 1333 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 5: Like she didn't start it up. Other people were starting drama. 1334 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 5: Ashley was starting drama. But we don't need to, We 1335 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 5: don't need to, you know, put a fan on the cyclone, you. 1336 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, it's already cycloned, already, it's already spinning. 1337 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 5: After that, Ashley left and we ended up enjoying the 1338 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 5: rest of the night. I do sometimes still feel guilty, 1339 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 5: as my boyfriend and Ashley do not really talk anymore 1340 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 5: or hang out as much as they used to. That's 1341 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 5: on her. But you guys tell me, am I the 1342 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 5: ale for slapping my boyfriend's girl busfriend at his mom's wedding. 1343 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1344 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, especially when you put it like that, it's like. 1345 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, like she's easy a hole for how she was acting, 1346 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, you're really a hole for slapping. Yeah. 1347 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 4: Maybe if the other stuff hadn't have happened, you could 1348 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 4: have gotten away with that. But like with the passing 1349 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 4: and the slurring and the yeah, you just needed to 1350 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 4: like be like, I'm gonna turn the other cheek, Yeah, 1351 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 4: just be like okay, instead of crazy smacking her in 1352 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 4: her cheeks. 1353 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, just be like, yeah, she's not gonna talk. I'm 1354 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 5: not gonna talk to you anymore, Ashley, and then walk out. 1355 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 5: Jennifer already had. 1356 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 4: Your back, yeah, And then you have the conversation with 1357 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 4: your boyfriend and then he's like, oh, yeah, no, that's yeah, 1358 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 4: this is what she told me. 1359 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: I guess I won't be hanging out with her. 1360 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 5: But that is the end of that story.