WEBVTT - Ep24 Jeff Zwart 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.280 All right, welcome back to Another Car Stories with Sun King. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:12.640 And Amelia Hartford. So it's the questions. All right, I 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:18.079 got a question for you. Would you survive a zombie apocalypse? 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:18.919 Oh? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.200 Would I? Wow, that's a great question. Would I survive 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.439 a zombie apocalypse like right now? 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:25.840 Yes? 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.160 Today? 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.760 If it happened like in five minutes, Well, it depends 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.760 on what kind of zombie? Are they fast zombies? Are 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:32.800 they slow zombies? 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.160 I'm talking like walking Dead zombies. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:36.800 Were they they were slow? 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:37.480 They were slow? 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.120 Well, I would be yeah. 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.200 I'm not talking the last of us zombies okay, okay? 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.239 Or I am legend zombies that runs super fast. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.800 The walking dead ones, the ones where they can't run, 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.440 they could walk, but they'll eat your brains. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.680 I would say that I'm not prepared at home, okay, 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:59.240 Like I don't have like yeah, sure, actually I do. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.120 I do have a bag that will last me a month. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:03.800 Vin Diesel gave it to me. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.000 That's awfully nice. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.920 He gave me a like a survival bag. I don't 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.680 know if it's still good. Wow. So I have that, 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.120 But I don't have any weapons. I don't have guns 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.600 and stuff. But if so, if they were to attack 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.280 my home like there were would I be able to survive? 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.480 I think you're overthinking this a little. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.039 I would hope, what do you think? Well, how about you? 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.040 Hell yeah, I would survive a zombie apocalypse. You would, yeah, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:31.520 I would? 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.480 Well, what makes you say that? Why it's so confident? 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.200 I just it's just my gut instinct. I feel like 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:43.039 I have those instincts given a life or death situation 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.000 to pull myself out of it. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.640 I don't know. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.360 Would you so if there was like two zombies coming 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.840 in and you would be able to chop their heads off, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.560 because you know you got to if I need it too. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.960 Sure they're dead, so you would be okay doing that's all? 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.200 To do that, though, how would you do that depends? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.480 We're here right now the iHeart Studios. Grab a knife 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.560 out of the kitchen. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.240 Well, there's no knife there. We couldn't even find a 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:06.720 fork for that. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:08.960 I' found a knife. That's how I cut the sandwich 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:09.120 and have. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.000 A butter knife. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.160 I kill. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:13.480 You. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.840 Go upstairs like a lock on the doors. I could 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.040 scale the side of the building. I could park her 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:19.000 to the next building. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:19.600 You would do that. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.760 I'd climb down to my car, my truck. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.960 But what about Teddy? You would just leave him behind? 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:25.840 We can take Tedgi. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.760 Yeah, no, no, he would be zombie. He would be 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:30.960 trying to hump that zombie. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.919 That's true. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:33.640 I would hope. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.840 I would hope I could survive. But I thought about 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.680 this before. I was like, what would happen if zombies 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.720 attacked my house and bit my wife and then she 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.280 turned into a zombie? Would I just leave? Or would 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.079 I wait for her to be a zombie and then 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:52.160 chop off her head. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.680 I love that you've thought about that. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:57.200 Useless stuff. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.760 Secondly, why do you have to stay at a chop 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.360 her head off? Why not just leave? 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.919 I don't want her to go around and exist right 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.080 as a zombie. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.079 But what if they come out with a potion or 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.119 a formula one day? 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.919 Like, yeah, well she still has to go around and 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.359 like eat people. Yeah, eat people, right? I would be sad. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.720 Like what if like I'm like in the neighborhood, like 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.160 you know, breaking. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.320 Into casually walking the dog. You see your ambie wife 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:25.840 running by. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.120 No, I would have to go get supplies, right, Like 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.280 I would break into someone's house to go get can goods, right, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.400 you know, during the day, and then I see her 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.839 like walking just like, oh, living dead, right, I would 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.640 be sad. Sure, so I would want to end her misery. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.920 Okay, I thought this was gonna be a fun Like 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.360 now I'm thinking about what it would take to murder 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.360 a significant other. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.000 Come on, Like, would you okay, if you saw me 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.000 and I was a zombie and you're like you were 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.760 driving by me, would you just run over me to 0:03:58.880 --> 0:03:59.560 end my misery? 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.560 Would you too? 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:01.840 I would hope you would. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.760 Then sure, I'll squish your body so hard to get 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:05.920 some building with my truck. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.840 You could do that. Well, yeah, you would do that. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.560 And put you out a misery if that's what you wanted. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.080 I appreciate that. Yeah, all right, all right, anyway, Jesus 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.600 speaking of I don't know what, there's no segue speaking 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.680 of kindness, of ending friends misery. One of the kindest 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.839 people I think in the community. And I mean, it 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.160 was just amazing to talk to this wonderful, wonderful hearted 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:31.760 human being. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:37.520 Yeah, Jeff Swart. Swart, Yeah, he is a racing driver, 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:42.840 he's a director, he's an artiste, photographer, videographer, you name it. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.360 I mean he was just dropping words of wisdom, all right, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.640 just his philosophy of people being passionate about what they do. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.560 That's the beginning and that's the end, you know. So 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.720 it's just a privilege and honor to sit down with them. Yeah, 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.880 be able to just listen to his words. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.719 So yeah, without further ado, Jeff Swart. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.400 Now for the listeners that aren't familiar with your career, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.000 you started in print and then you went into commercial directing, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.479 and then you went into narrative film directing. So how 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.640 did you get your start in print photography? 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:25.200 My fourth grade field trip in Delaware we lived in Wilmington, Delaware. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.960 A fourth grade field trip. My parents gave me an 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.760 instematic camera to actually go take pictures on it. So 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.680 they did that. But funny enough, you know, as you 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.120 grow up, when you stop wanting to be a fireman 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.600 or an astronaut, you know, or at that he's kind 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.479 of all these kind of typical things. My goal was 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.240 to be a veterinarian. I loved animals. I loved that 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.600 whole process, and I always had a dog when I 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.279 was born. My dad, he was a sharpshooter in the Navy. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.320 When I was born and came home, he took his 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.400 rifle down the street and traded it for a dog. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.320 Every boy, he and his mind needed to have a dog. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.480 And so I from that point on, we've always had 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.719 a dog. But so dogs and animals and everything were 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.240 so part of my life and so naturally the veterinary 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.640 part was very interesting. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.440 Oh wait, wait, wait, why did your dad feel that 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:18.599 every boy needed a dog? 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.359 And they say dogs are man's best friends. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.279 Yeah, and that's also it's kind of it's just nice 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:30.560 to have a non communicating relationship with something where you're 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.800 not a verbal communicator with it so much you just 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.400 sense this wonderful animal is here for you, and I'm 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.159 here for this wonderful animal. And we don't sit down 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.800 and have long talks about things or share, but there's 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:51.880 a communication and a relationship that develops that is just pure. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.320 It's like, you know right now, you know, we live 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.839 in Colorado, and it's just wonderful to just watch the 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.560 dogs go out and be dog every day, no fences, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.479 no anything, and you just sit there and you kind 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.039 of look at that dog and go, what's going through 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.440 his mind or her mind or whatever. I just I 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.880 don't know, I really like that. So the veterinary side 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.400 was really kind of to help dogs, you know, that's 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.400 a whole other level and to be able to do that, 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.640 and I love the fact that, again, the dog doesn't 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.080 come in and tell you what its problems are. You know, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.760 you need to look at it, you need to spend 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.960 time with it. And even in the days of when 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.520 I was involved in veterinary medicine, it was you know, 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.360 there weren't even a lot of testing, and there weren't MRIs, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.200 and there weren't all the things that we do for 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.200 our dogs now. It was really more of just like 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.960 looking and listening to the owners and you know, feeling 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.360 things on the dog and just seeing where are the problems, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.840 what can we do? And it kind of really very 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.160 spiritual to kind of get in the head and the 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.440 body of the dog to decide what to do with it. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.600 But anyway, my plan was to go to veterinary school 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.680 in the United States, but then all of a sudden 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.600 it looked like, oh, maybe it would be a little 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.960 easier to get in the ventory school in Europe. So 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.760 I went to Germany. Got oh that's a huge Yes, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.760 yeah it was. It was a bit. It was a 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:13.240 big deal. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:14.560 This was your hold. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.920 It would have been nineteen years. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.680 It's just like it's going to be easier to go 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.640 to vet school or become a veterinarian. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.320 For the It's very hard in California at that time 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.000 one vetinary school you see David ninety spaces. I think 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.600 it was easier for me to be a doctor than 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.920 it would have been to a ventnor. It was very, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.120 very hard. It was hard and so but there there 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.120 were nineteen foreign student positions. So I thought, well, I'm 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.200 going to do do that. I flew to Frankfurt, took 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.280 a train to Munich, got off the train in Munich, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.400 I stayed in the youth hostel, and I went around 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.080 Munich going to all the veterinarians showing up and they're saying, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.440 do you need an assistant? Because I decided that for 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.280 the first year I needed to go there learn the language. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.440 Really could and the only thing I really knew how 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.160 to do was to be a veterinary assistant because that's 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.400 what I done in the US. Ultimately, somebody knew another 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.280 veterinarian that needed help, and it was a large animal vetinary, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.520 and I started working for a large, large animal veterinarian 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.760 outside of Munich. But the thing that simultaneously kind of 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.840 happened once I got settled into that was, as you 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.920 can in Europe. On Friday nights, I would get on 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:30.679 a train and take the train to somewhere else in 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.800 Europe and go to a race because I loved racing, 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.760 and here I was in Europe to get to see 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.360 racing from Formula one, sports car racing to whatever. And 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.240 so I would spend Saturday and Sunday at the races 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.320 and figure out ways to sit, sneak into the pits, 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.280 and do all those kind of things that you could 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:47.760 do then. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.120 And during that era. To be able to go to 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.680 races in Europe. Ivote, God, what a what a time 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:55.240 to be alive? 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.160 Oh it was, And it was Nikki Lauda and James 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.760 Hunt and you know, all those kind great things, which 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.240 I'll tell you a little funny moment relative to that. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.040 But I was literally, you know, with my little camera 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.360 that I had kind of evolved from that instematic and 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.920 fourth grade. I had a camera with me and would 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.800 photograph the races and be right there in the middle 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.360 of things. And I just came to this realization that, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.160 you know, this is where I really wanted to be. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.040 I was allowed to be around cars, the people that 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.680 were closest to the action were the photographers. So I 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.920 wrote my parents a letter from Europe after being there 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.280 for about nine ten months, and I said, you know, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.600 I don't think I want to be a Venteroran anymore. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.840 I want to be a photographer. And you know, you 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.560 have to wait for that to come back now. So 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.720 then the letter comes back, and I opened the letter 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.640 and said, well, you know, that's going to be a 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.479 really difficult life because my parents knew nothing about photography. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.360 You know, as a career, I really didn't know anything 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.640 about photography. But they just said, we'll support you. But 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.800 you know, if you're a veterinarian, you've got it kind 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.920 of made. You know, you will be a doctor and 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.479 all that stuff. But if you want to be a photographer, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.800 you need to come back to the United States and 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.079 you need to figure out where you're going to go 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.640 to school, because we can't help you in that. And 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.360 so that was my life change. And it was not 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.800 because I love photography, but because photography was the way 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.240 to be around cars. So that was really it. And 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.720 as it turned out, you know, I did eventually really 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.920 love photography. I did all that. I just in my 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.120 head the driving force was this is my way to 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:34.920 be around cars. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.880 You know, you think because you love cars and racing, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.400 you were able to capture in your photography the cars 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.360 in a unique way compared to other photographers that would 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:46.520 just take a picture of a car. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.080 That was really true and it still works to this day. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.800 I mean, there's so many subjects that relate to what 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.960 you just said, is that. You know, it was the speed, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.560 it was the motion, it was the thing like that 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.600 to it that I was so attracted to. I was 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.880 less interested in just freezing the car. I wanted the 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.480 motion and things. And my highest aspiration was someday shoot 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.719 something for Road and Track magazine because that's what I'd 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.760 grown up with my family, was this magazine that came 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.599 every month. Well, of course, when I got out of 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.200 Art Center, I thought, you know, if I could just 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.320 do something. So the offices for Road and Track were 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.360 in Newport Beach and I went down to those offices 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.440 and my first assignment was a cover with them, So 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.000 it just it took off from there. But also I 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.640 started covering Formula one for Road and Track magazine, and 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.760 I'd go to the Brazilian Grand Prix and shoot the 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.800 Formula one spotters, guide and do all these things, but 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.080 it was always about motion and action and blurred backgrounds 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.640 and kind of creating it maybe more artful and funny enough. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.320 I mean, who would have ever thought that somebody was 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.520 reading Road and Track magazine and they're at a company 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.280 that builds fighter planes and they call me up and say, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.560 could you come up to our offices for a meeting? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.520 And I come up there and they have all my 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.960 Formula one work from Road and Track magazine. They're saying, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.720 we would like you to shoot our fighter planes like 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.840 you shoot Formula one, And I'm like, how do I 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.960 get in this situation? Ultimately it led to me being 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.280 Martin Baker ejection seat certified, went through all the training 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.680 that you do basically to be a pilot, and I 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.360 flew back seat with this little card I carried with 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.320 me in F eighteen's and almost everything that way, and 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.440 photographed fighter planes the way I did F one And 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.959 it was just kind of a magical moment. But it 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.880 came from Road and Track, came from shooting the Formula 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:49.760 one cars. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.000 So came from something that you were passionate. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.000 what a great lesson. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.160 Absolutely can you look back in your life and see 0:13:58.880 --> 0:13:59.840 everything connect. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.280 The amount of full circle moments, it still to this 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.560 day gives me chills just around motorsport or whatever. You know. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.720 I get a call through my office that Ron Howard 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.080 wants to have a meeting about a movie he's working on, 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.200 and it was the movie Rush, and he said, can 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.560 we meet for breakfast? I really like the way you 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:29.720 approach shooting cars and action and everything. He said, could 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.040 we just have a breakfast one day? And so I 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.000 go down and I'm sitting there and I didn't know 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.520 what he was working on, but I'm sitting there with 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:44.520 Ron Howard and then to get his perspective that says, 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.520 this is about James Hunt and Nikki Lauda, and I 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.800 go back to I'm a veterinary working for veterinarian in 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.360 Europe in the pits at Dutch Grand Prix and song 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.000 for it shooting Nikki l Loud and James Hung. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.600 It's like, wow, well, you know, Ron Howard is a 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.560 is a real special human being. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:11.800 Huh. Yeah. I loved his diligence in studying it. You know. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.520 Yeah, I did this table read for a film that 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.160 he was going to potentially do and we never did it. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.920 And it put things into perspective, like meeting him the first. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.080 You know, I grew up watching him on Happy Days 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.280 and Andy Griffith Show, right, and Andy griff The show 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.240 is a black and white TV show. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:38.880 Room. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.400 It's great TV. But rn Over was like a little boy. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.440 He's really the little boy of the local sheriff, right. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:58.480 And anyway, so we're in his production office in Beverly 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.640 Hills and and then I went to the bat. I 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.120 was like, hey, can I use your bathroom? And he 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:04.640 had a bathroom in his office. He goes, hey, you 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.800 can use that one, and I'm using his toilet. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.520 There was an oscar on the toilet and I was like, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.600 I guess this is what he thinks of what these 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.680 actually are. I mean, at the end of the day, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.160 it's really the experience, really, you know that he values. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.840 It's like at the end, it's just a statue, right, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.160 And it was like one of those like full circle 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.560 moments to be able to work with this icon. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:33.000 Yeah, yeah, no it is. And I think he really 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.520 need to appreciate those moments too, And it really puts 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.800 things in perspective. Even for like fun I shot the 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.040 first I think I shot four seasons of GT Academy, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:50.120 the real, real GT Academy. Yeah, so you know, so 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.760 here we are, you know, a million I think about that, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.320 you know, then the movie comes along. But you know, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:17:01.000 it's like I was living four years with a group 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.160 of kids that basically had qualified by gaming, and then 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.280 we'd put them literally on day one in a GTR 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:14.840 you know, on Silverstone, and it was to watch the 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:21.520 mental load, the physical load, the the racecraft developed, all 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.080 these things that would have to kind of all come 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.800 together to succeed in that. It was a fascinating process. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.639 And then here you are coming off the movie. It 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.399 was just again a really fun, you know, circle moment 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.000 of watching that evolve into something that was bigger than 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.680 we ever imagined in the beginning. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.879 What were some of the characteristics that stood out of 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.320 the individuals that excelled you know, I mean that's a 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.680 question through life, Yeah. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.840 It really is. It was. It was kind of hard 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:56.119 to watch sometimes because people were so serious there the 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.679 competitors that were so serious and tried so hard, and 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.160 you know, it wasn't you know, racing is so much 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.159 a part of economics in a lot of ways today 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.560 is racing, and there was no economics in there. You 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.840 know you qualified or you didn't. It wasn't you know, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.600 how you were bankrolled or anything. So for them to 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.320 arrive there, it was really kind of multiple great human 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:29.360 interest stories of guys that are just living, breathing. Everything 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.719 about it was, you know, basically in the hands of 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:38.240 this one week long event, and the problem in the 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.960 not the problem because the game prepared them so well, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.920 but there was no consequence in the game for them 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:50.479 to get there. And I couldn't believe how fast the 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.840 competitors would ramp up. They would go quick right away 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.720 because they'd race with no consequence to get there. And 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.360 then the other side of it, too, was is that 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:08.160 they would they would be able to manage the cars 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.679 so often because some of this part of this. I 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.200 would ride with them sometimes in film and do thing 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.760 and you just, you know, knowing what I knew, their 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.120 car control was so good, and a lot of times 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.560 it would come back to saying, well, I have so 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:27.000 little physical feedback in the game, but now that I'm 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:33.040 in a car, that extra feedback I have actually really helps, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.280 you know, I really understand it. It's it's obviously something 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.280 you have to adapt to, but the ability to kind 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.760 of ramp up and go quickly right away was always 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.360 surprising to me because I remember in some of the beginnings, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.000 you know, some of these guys had never even driven 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.960 a manual transmission. You know, they qualified in the game, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.280 but they never had driven a manual transmission, and the 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.680 things that they'd have to deal with was really fascinating. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.920 And and it was interesting because it became more entertainment 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.760 in this as we went through the seasons, rather than 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.359 pure racecraft and everything that you needed to do to 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.879 be a racing driver. It needed to be a little 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.120 more entertaining season after season, and I think that. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:14.480 Like a reality show. 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:19.080 Yeah, yeah, and it became probably the results were less 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.479 pure to what it took to be a racer. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.880 I mean, when you bought that nine fourteen six, it 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.760 was the affordable Porsche. Yeah, but today that's not a fortune. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:48.920 No, I is really, but yeah, it was my cheapest 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.200 way to get into a six cylinder porschew How much 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.280 was that when you bought it? I think thirty eight 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.720 dollars or something like that. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:57.800 Oh my god. 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.199 The story, you know, we can get into it. The 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.719 story of getting that car is kind of very defining 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:08.199