1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. I just said to you, 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: we can't keep talking about what we're talking about because 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to actually let the listeners hear this. But 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: you were saying to me, what the hell has happened 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. It has been rough, So 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: talk us through. Why was this such a wild little 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: run in the end of July. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Well, because you had a full moon that was loaded 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: with conflicting energies. Okay, and when you and remember, when 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: you get to the full moon, you're looking at what 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: you started fourteen years prior, fourteen days prior at the 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: new full moon. So in other words, think of as 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: the sun is creative and you're stepping out and you're 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: not looking at nothing, you're not looking reflectively at life. 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: When the full moon comes, you have now put yourself 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: out there for fourteen days and now you're getting the 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: reflection coming back at you. So, in other words, we 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: got a reflection coming back. And of course when you're 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: talking about Pluto conjunct the moon and opposed the Sun, 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: it's like I told you, that was intense internal conflict 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: leading to periods of self doubt and identity crisis, power struggles, 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: control and dominance problems, and of course you see it's 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: the moon is telling you that there is a lot 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: of old habits and old patterns that you've been trying 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: to operate with, and if you've been operating with them 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: for the fourteen days of the new moon, well they're 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: going to reflect back to you at the fourteen days 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: at the full moon and show you that hey, this 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: is not clear and this is what you're getting because 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: your feelings and security issues are getting in habits are 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: getting in your way. 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, what's always so interesting about what you just 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: said to me is that I look at my life 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: or whenever you tell me like we do these podcasts, 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, well here's the things that are 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: going to be coming up this month, and I'm thinking 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: through the energy patterns that you talk about, I'm thinking, Okay, 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: this thing will come up, and I always associate it 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: with this big thing in my life or this big 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: obvious I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: trying to say, but like just that it's going to 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: be just as obvious as the sky is blue to me. 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: And what I'm really starting to realize is that the 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: way it works for me is that these lessons they'll 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: just come in and so it's like it could be 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: like this almost underlying issue, but it's that I'm showing 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: up in the same way in the same kind of situation, 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: regardless of if it's a different person, a different relationship, work, love, friendship, whatever. 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: It's like, the way that I'm showing up is like 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing you say about noticing where we need 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: to make changes. Those are the lessons that I've been getting. Like, 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: if I have a pattern of showing up and abandoning 54 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: myself in relationships, for instance, it's not that I like, 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, don't do that. It's that someone 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: will come in and challenge the fuck out of me, 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: and I want to go back to my old pattern 58 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: of abandoning myself or something like that. And I finally 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of clicked with it this month. Oh, this thing 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: is happening because I'm supposed to work that out. I'm 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: not supposed to do that anymore, and so I'm getting 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: the most challenges and this person is in my face 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: in the most aggressive way. But it's actually a gift 64 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: at the end of it. But Jesus, it's rough when 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: you're in it. 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, and what you've and 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: what you're trying to learn by it is to how 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: are you responding right to to that aggressive or assertive 69 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: or that energy that's bringing up these stressful, stressful experiences, right, 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, as I was doing some writing here the 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: other days, and I mean, you know, I keep being 72 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: reminded when you look out into the world, all you 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: see is you mm hmm. 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: That actually makes so much sense to me. Now I 75 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: would have never known what you were talking about, though, 76 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: even a couple of months ago. That has clicked for 77 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: me really recently. 78 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, and so when when we like 79 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: the it's like the moon. When we look at the moon, 80 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: it's a reflection of the sun. It's not bright, it's 81 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: not real, it's not yellow. It's a reflection of the 82 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: sun because the sun is shining on it. So that 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: means when we metaphorically break it down, that means all 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: of your actions for fourteen days are now being exposed 85 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: and you've brought in the people, you've brought in the experiences, 86 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: you've brought in whatever comes into your life by the 87 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: actions that you took for fourteen days. 88 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Well, when I was reading your outline, you bring up 89 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the masculine and feminine again, specifically with the Leo new moon. 90 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit more about that specific 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: new moon that's going to be coming or actually that 92 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: happened on August fourth, right, Yeah, so that show you remember, 93 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: were the next couple weeks. 94 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 2: Well, you remember when we had the conversation that Gibbus 95 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: started at forty five degrees of Leo. 96 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't but okay, a few podcasts back, Okay, I'm 97 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: not a girl. 98 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: So in other words, yes, Leo, see this has got 99 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: to this should be a fun month. There's no greater 100 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: fun and the happiness and joy and serving myself than Leo. 101 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: And when you're bringing in the masculine feminine, in other words, 102 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: the masculine is all the action oriented and the feminine 103 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: is all of the receptive oriented. Or we could just 104 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: simply say the ego mind versus the feeling body, okay, 105 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: be the same thing. Yeah, And so you know, when 106 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: you're you're talking about Leo, you're talking about the most 107 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: individualistic individual there is, because what you're doing in Leo 108 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: is you are building a powerful sense of self. You're 109 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: building will power to go with your thinking. You're building vision, 110 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: creativity to go with your whole expression, putting out into 111 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: the vortex in the universe to be creative of whatever 112 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: you felt and envisioned. So this is all being this 113 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: is all being sculpted in Leo. And this is why 114 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: Leo are very powerful people, very intelligent. They've got to 115 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: learn to channel and listen to the mind of God. 116 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: And that's I mean, yes, that's true for everybody, because 117 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: everybody's got Leo somewhere, but just Leo in general. You've 118 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: I mean, when you say I will, is it my 119 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: will or is it God's will? So there's a there 120 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: is a tremendous spirituality in Leo, and Leo has got 121 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: to learn how to listen to that still small voice 122 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: before they can really become their greatest creative self. So 123 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: this is a month of fun. This is all Let 124 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: it go, enjoy, express yourself, play love. 125 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're the most positive astrologer about the month of 126 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: August because everything that I've seen people are like, whoo, 127 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be a doozy, So why are you 128 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: having this? So what's what's happening that other some other 129 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: astrologers that I've maybe seen on social media or something 130 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: are doomsdaying this month. 131 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: Oh, they look at it. They look at the energy patterns, 132 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: and you know that I look at the energy patterns. 133 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta we got a Uranus square venus 134 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: coming up with this Leo, Well, I just want I 135 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: want you to live and love and light and have 136 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: fun and play and all of that. Well, Uranus square 137 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: venus venus is love, joy, happiness, and harmony, and you 138 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: got Uranus says break up, break out, break away, and 139 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: break free. So if you're feeling like you're being strapped 140 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: by your own desires, well then you're going to have 141 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: alternating feelings of love and loneliness. You have stifled, restricted 142 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: personal relationships, You're going to constantly creating unseen crisis because 143 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: you keep you keep grasping for the love, joy, happinessiness. 144 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: So what is that energy pattern here to teach us? 145 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: What? 146 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Like? What if you're like as as you were saying earlier, 147 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's always like something to reflect on. 148 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: In other words, it's going to teach you how that 149 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: you can lose your sense of self in relationships or 150 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: your own personal DeSUS. 151 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: Your own personal say that way. 152 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: Remember, Venus is what Venus is, what makes the world 153 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: worth having and worth being here. And of course if 154 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: you are uh you can't find that Venetian quality of love, joy, happiness, 155 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: peace and values and relationships, well then it's because uranus 156 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: is very individualistic. Okay, So in other words, Uranus wants 157 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: to break a free of something that feels you may 158 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: feel trapped by, you may feel overly bonded to and 159 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: losing your sense of self like you talked about earlier. 160 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: So it's coming in to say if that is there, well, 161 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: then this energy is going to be difficult because you're 162 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: going to feel a deep seated desire and become very 163 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: wilful about no longer no longer tolerating a relationship that's 164 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: that's not working no longer, you know, feeling love and 165 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: long I mean alternating feelings of love and loneliness. I 166 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: mean here you you know, one moment you're happy, in 167 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: another moment you're you're upset. 168 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Right, So you're. 169 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Getting way too involved into what what what whatever? Your 170 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: venus is focused on achieving for happiness. And then we 171 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: got a Saturn square Jupiter. This is going to challenge 172 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: everybody's honesty. 173 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah. 174 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's Saturn. You're hardly going to get 175 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: a lesson with that. 176 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: What's that mean in reality? 177 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you tell you tell a 178 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: little lie, it's not untruthful so that you can get 179 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: ahead Jupiter, Well, then you're going to pay the You're 180 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: going to pay the consequence. 181 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah. 182 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: And so misjudging others intentions, well, I mean, you know, 183 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: in a way I look at it as an astrologer. 184 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: I mean, if something seems to be a little funky, 185 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to look at the energey, especially if I'm 186 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: responding to it. Then I'm gonna look at the energy 187 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: and say, oh, okay, that's an energy and I just 188 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: got to be aware of how that energy is affecting me. 189 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Well, because okay, let me ask tell me if this 190 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: is the right way to look at this. But I 191 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: don't feel like when these energy patterns come up, it 192 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: doesn't create specific problems that aren't there, It just magnifies them. 193 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: So something's coming up during one of these energy patterns, 194 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: it is there to be like looked at and healed 195 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: or fixed or changed or whatever. But like it might 196 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: feel bigger and more hostile or aggressive or volatile or 197 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: whatever sad when these energy patterns are at play, Is 198 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: that right? 199 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's take a Jupiter Saturn. Saturn says I'm 200 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: working hard for my reality, right, Jupiter says, this is 201 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: how I can expand and get that reality. Okay, Now, 202 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: if you have some energy inside of you that wants 203 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: to make sure that people are responding the way you 204 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: want them to respond, so you kind of either tell 205 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: a lie or you try to you know, say something 206 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: that is going to make sure you get what you want, well, 207 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: then that's obviously going to be a conflict. Just like 208 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: you're Uranus, if you start, if you start all of 209 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: a sudden that and this for these uh this full 210 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: this new moon, if you all of a sudden start 211 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, getting kind of erratic. If you don't understand 212 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: that you're something's not free flowing, You're freedom somehow isn't 213 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: working right. You feel like you're being hymned in or 214 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: box did well, whether Uranus venus you're going to be 215 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: and say this isn't working for or you're going to 216 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: try to break it up or get angry or or 217 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: do something that's you know, off the off handed. That 218 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: doesn't feel good. 219 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Your phone kind of broke up. But I think what 220 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: you were saying is you're going to notice it in 221 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: your relationships because anything tied the venus is our relationships, right, well, it's. 222 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Your relationship and your. 223 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: Values, right, and your money, okay. 224 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: And money and values for you know, what I teach 225 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: is that you know, when you want to place a 226 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: value on something, how much is it worth? M m 227 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: Everything has a worth. How we look at worth is value? 228 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: How much money is it? So this is how you 229 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: look at venus. 230 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: So the reason people might be going well, August is 231 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: going to be wild it is because we have these 232 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: These are like big, big transits. But it's again like 233 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: what we said. I mean, I don't know what will 234 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: happen on a big cultural level, but like for your 235 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: individual life, the thing is already there. Whatever's happening is 236 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: already there. It's just like these certain energy patterns just 237 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: magnify it. So you might as well just use them 238 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: to work with them. 239 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: Yes, perfect, I mean you know, and if you work 240 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: with it right, the nixt stop is a. 241 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Trine, right, it'll flow right, It'll be easy, right. 242 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean, uranus can bring you into an adventure. It 243 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: could bring you into a togetherness in a whole new 244 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: way you could be taking. You could take a trip 245 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden refall in love. 246 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Right. 247 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know it doesn't always have to manifest, 248 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: but it's see a square to you have to take 249 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: action in a square. 250 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 251 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: And if you're realizing you're feeling a little iranian of 252 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: wanting to break up, break out and break away, you say, 253 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit hemmed, then so you know, 254 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: let me just set with the energy for a while 255 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: instead of responding with an argument or a fight or 256 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: some sort of way of or you know, taking an 257 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: action that breaks up a relationship over some little silly stuff. 258 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Right. And then with the square, if you're noticing something, 259 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: you have to do something different or take an action to. 260 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Taking an action. In other words, with a Saturn Jupiter, 261 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: you're trying to build a reality. So instead of being 262 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: irritated by relationships, you try to get a different idea 263 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: of how you can work together. So I mean, if 264 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: it takes two to tango, well you've got to have 265 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: a good partner and you got to give them space 266 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: to express their uniqueness, their creative fact about two minds 267 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: are better than one? How often have we heard that? 268 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: But if you're so, if you're so hung up on 269 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: what you want and Saturn, let me see, where is 270 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: that Venus in the new Moon? So it's Venus and Leo. 271 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: You want what you want, when you want it now, 272 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: not going to bump up against the huronus. So, in 273 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: other words, the group mind Uranus is going to be 274 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: opposing or being in friction with what you want. So 275 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: how do you make that work? Do you rebel? Do 276 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: you fight? Do you do all of the things that 277 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: Uranis can bring up? Or do you kind of or 278 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: do you try to get along and understand a greater 279 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: connection to the group. 280 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: Well, isn't that essentially the same thing as you said 281 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: about the Leo new moon? In general, it's like letting 282 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: go of your own will, your self will, or your 283 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: ego or all of those things and looking at God's will. 284 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: So it's the same thing essentially, It's like getting out 285 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: of yourself and your own ego and looking even I mean, 286 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: or if you're gonna argue or say something like, is 287 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: that what you're supposed to do? Are you supposed to 288 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: use your voice? 289 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: Like? 290 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: What is God's will in this situation, or the higher 291 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: selfs will like all of those pieces of it. 292 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's always to work with people, isn't it. 293 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 294 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: I think so. 295 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, if you do something creative, isn't it for 296 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: It's got to be creative for the rest of humanity? 297 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Right? 298 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: I mean have you ever created something just for you? No? 299 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that doesn't really work. 300 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: Doesn't really work. 301 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean you can, but it just doesn't go anywhere. 302 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: It's not going to do anything. What's it for, right? 303 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: I mean you're here to experience people, right, grow with people. 304 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Right? 305 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: We all a deal that we've got coming. And this 306 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: is probably what you're talking about. We've got a Murcer 307 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: retrograde going on. 308 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: We're we're here, We're in it. 309 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: We're in it. 310 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, just hit it, just it. I started feeling it actually, 311 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: the pre shadow stuff. I was having all sorts of 312 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: weird technological issues and things like that. But as we 313 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: always say, retrogrades are not these like doomsday times that 314 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: people make them out to be in pop culture. But 315 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: it is a time to reflect, to go back. We 316 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: really broke this down a couple of weeks ago or 317 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: a couple months ago on the podcast that Marv describes 318 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: it as the time to go back because we just 319 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: didn't quite get something right. So if you're having a well. 320 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Let's think about this, I mean work for retrograde. The 321 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: point of retrograde is building a bridge to another reality. 322 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: How apropos is that, Yeah, building a bridge to another reality. 323 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: So that's why we're struggling with that, the micro and 324 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: the macro and so social ideals that work breast for 325 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: the general welfare. We've got to learn how everything can 326 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: work for everybody. We got to create a new plan 327 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: for the country. I mean, we don't just know to 328 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 3: do that. 329 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: We're trying to struggle about all these ideas and changes 330 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: and everything else. And so we're going to go back 331 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: so that we revisit. The direct point and the challenge 332 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: of the energy for this marker retrograde is we're all 333 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: being challenged about our securities and our habits to protect ourselves, 334 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: unsteady values and relationships. So that's the big deal about 335 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: the retrograde. It's going to be so tough. The thing 336 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: about it is is the moon is under a lot 337 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: of stress, okay, And when the moon is under stress, 338 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: it's your past. Your past is coming to face you 339 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: and if you're insecure, It's like I told my daughter, 340 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: why are you insecure? Why do you respond to insecurities 341 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: instead of rethinking it in a different perspective. And so 342 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: that's what we're trying to learn. And then the Mercury 343 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: direct is, it's how about slide diplomacy versus showy threats? 344 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Slides? I would rather have me versus showy threats. Yep, 345 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking through that. Explain more power struggles, gotcha. 346 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: So if you're trying to uh get your ideas across, 347 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: if they're not being heard, well, then how do you 348 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: say it so it can be heard? 349 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 350 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: But it's diplomacy, you're not you're not threatening violence or 351 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: threatening in any way if if if it's not accepted 352 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 2: or your ideas aren't accepted, forcing forcing desk spots or 353 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: corruption from power. Huh? How's that working on the micro 354 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: and the macro? And yeah, yeah, and so so you 355 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: see Mercury's backing up. So we can take another look 356 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: at this and say, you know what, we got to 357 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: start looking at reality. We can't be you can't be 358 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: threatening me and expect me to take, you know, take 359 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: an action that's going to be supportive, and so we've 360 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: got to learn how to stand up for ourselves. We 361 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: got to see things as a unity and try to 362 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: bring the opposites, bring polarity. There's always going to be 363 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: white and white and black. There's always going to be 364 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: day and night. There's always going to be polarity. Polarity 365 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: is what we learn and teaches us how to get 366 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: into the middle. It's a seesaw. So we got to 367 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: have differing points of view so that we can and 368 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: uh choose what view we want the person that makes 369 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: sense for us. And so I like the and the 370 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: energy is challenge our habits and beliefs for security? Why 371 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: why do uh why why do uh strong men despots 372 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: and and corrupt? Why do they give us security? Why 373 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: do I need security from an outside agent? 374 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: You're saying our deepest security is within ourselves. 375 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: There, Yeah, there is no security outside of yourself, right, 376 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: It's always in certainly, and so we've got to look 377 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: at that. We've got to uh and at it's mercury. 378 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: So we've got to evaluate how that is in us. 379 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: We've got to uh look at the Are we fantasizing 380 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: thoughts and visions? Are we just responding unconsciously without really 381 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: thinking things through. So those are some of the struggles 382 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: it's going to be with mercury direct that are ultimately 383 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: going to help us to start moving forward with the 384 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: with the rectrograde. What's best for all of us? What 385 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: works for all of us? What is the best plan 386 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: for all of us? I mean, I would hope that 387 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: you know. That's what the ultimate question is. How does 388 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: this help everybody? I mean, if it was just what 389 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: I wanted, that would. 390 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Be kind of dull, right, So we're being pushed back 391 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: into that which we keep talking about with the age 392 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: of Aquarius. It's not about one, it's about all. This 393 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: is obviously the mistake. 394 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: And then the full moon again is going to be 395 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: kind of tough compared for this new moon. It's in 396 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: a it's in twenty eight Aquarius. Earthly wisdom based on 397 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: hands on experience, learning how to make collaborative efforts between 398 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: people work. It's understanding your own limits, understanding your own 399 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: self reliance. So as mercury retrograde brings in this your 400 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: limits of security, you have to understand those insecurities have 401 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: a belief system behind them. Why why are you choosing 402 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: to be insecure and of course, the energy is going 403 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 2: to be pretty tough. Uranus is going to square the 404 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: moon Sun and mark Bury, well, it's going to have 405 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: trouble finding consistency, fear about the future, not trusting yourself, 406 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: so you follow the crowd. Saturn opposes Venus playing victim 407 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: versus listening and considering your own values. Saturn squares Mars 408 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: Jupiter trying to be all things to all people. Mars 409 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: square's Venus harshness in relationships. In other words, of Mars Venus, 410 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: that's an aspect that even natally, it's just they're brusque people. 411 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: Their brusque voice, there's a brusqueness to them. So in 412 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: other words, when we're when when we're feeling a little 413 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, victim, or feeling a little overwhelmed, or feeling 414 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: a little out of calter and nothing consistent, you're going 415 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: to be a little more brusque, be a little more 416 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: harsh in your tone and voice. And then of course 417 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: you got a Jupiter squares Vetas that's a lazy attitudes, 418 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: greedy and wasteful. 419 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: So this is all happening in August. This is probably 420 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: why people are like August is going to be wild. 421 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: I love that is so fun, Leo season for play. 422 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: To your Leo power. You bypass all this. 423 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's happening, but channel you're king or queen, 424 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: because that's what Leo. 425 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: Your king queen properly. Then it's going to be a 426 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: little tough. Okay, You're going to feel like you need 427 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: to break out and break. 428 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Away, right, No, right. 429 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: Have a revolt, a fight, a union with uh people 430 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: like you. 431 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Right, you're not saying me specifically, you're saying like minded people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 432 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to watch how this 433 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: plays out on a bigger scale, because if this is 434 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: all happening and there's all the volatility we already have 435 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: and divisiveness and all those things, I'm sure that this 436 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: is going These energies are going to bring up some 437 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: interesting situations. So TBD, I guess this full. 438 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Move gonna bring up some real breakup, you know, real 439 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: radical old urania and energies. 440 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: When is the full moon? Do you know the date? 441 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, of course I know the date? 442 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, would you care to share. 443 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: MARV August nineteen. 444 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: You do know that's the Democratic National Convention when the nineteenth? 445 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: That week? So that is that? 446 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Right? 447 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? So that'll be wild that wild sure, wild Wow. 448 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well, keep your heads on straight, do 449 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: what you can to channel your inner king or queen, 450 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: and work with the energy. Be reflective, think of the 451 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: the whole versus individuals. What I've heard a lot of Yeah, 452 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: any other closing words for us, Marv as we. 453 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: Go, why I talked about Leo in general. Okay, we're 454 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: taking things so serious that you lose your sense of fun, 455 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: love and happiness. Okay, stay in the now, Okay everything 456 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: and just open your heart and accept things as they are. 457 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Quit trying to change it. 458 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: And you're right because you always say things are already 459 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: mapped out. And like I do think there is a 460 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: lot of pieces of me and I think of other 461 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: people that I see around me, we're so resistant to 462 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: change ultimately, Like as much as maybe there's some things 463 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: where like oh, let's we need this to change, and 464 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: we need this to change, when it actually gets put 465 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: into place that systems need to be different and they 466 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: go into what that looks like, I do see a 467 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of resistance because we're very comfortable, Like we're very 468 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: comfortable in the way that we know things to be, 469 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: even if what is that you're you're more comfortable and 470 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: you're familiar Hell than a new and unfamiliar heaven or something, 471 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't know, it's maybe just time 472 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: for us to start opening up our minds to what 473 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: change could bring, even if it's uncomfortable for a minute, 474 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: Like maybe this is the time. 475 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, the unknown is going to expose your security at 476 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: insecurity right, so it could be better, right if you're 477 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: too insecure to accept it. 478 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. Well, Marv, where can people 479 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: find you if they want to do a reading with you, 480 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: a natal chart reading, or you do all kinds of 481 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: different things. Maybe we should maybe we should remind listeners 482 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: all of the different offerings that you have. We haven't 483 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: done that in a minute, Like, what do you mean, Well, 484 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: you can do hypnosis. There's all sorts of different kind 485 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: of sessions. 486 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, you can reach me on my astrology at 487 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: astromarv dot com. Yeah, and you can reach me in 488 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: my hypnosis uh sector at bl hypnosis dot com that 489 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: stands for Better Life Hypnosis. 490 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you hypnotize people? 491 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: For? Oh goodness sakes, you don't even want to hear that. 492 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: List Give us some different so it's like, I know 493 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: you've definitely talked about even just smoking, our addiction things, 494 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: but then we've done sessions where it's kind of we 495 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: go into like a past life almost regression type session 496 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: via hypnosis, which is really interesting. What else I like this? 497 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: You know, my joy is doing spiritual enhancement, so obviously 498 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: into the Light speaks for itself, shackra healing and cleansing, 499 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: spirit journeys, power animal journey, enhanced intuition, connecting with the 500 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: higher self, and my favorite is ultra height taking you 501 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: in to see speak to your own soul. 502 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: Hmm. That is interesting. 503 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: So you know that's what I do on top of 504 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: all the conflicts that we all and I'll go through, 505 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, whether if it's anxiety or pain or PTSD 506 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: or from addictions to achieving goals, achieving memory, testing people 507 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: for tests, any kind of fears and phobias, sleep, increase 508 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: self confidence. So that's just a tippity iceberg. 509 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, if you have questions, I will put the both 510 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: of the websites and Marv's email address and the description 511 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: of this podcast. But that is something to think about 512 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: if you're kind of struggling and bumping up against something 513 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: and you're like, I've done astrology, but you're ready to 514 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: take it further. Maybe it's a hypnosis session and really 515 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: get in touch with your soul, your spirit guides all 516 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: the things that Marv just listed, it sounds like there's 517 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different things you can do in hypnosis, 518 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: so I'm not even going to try to name them all. 519 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, you guys, I'll put all of Marv's info 520 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: in the description of this podcast. You guys reach out 521 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: to him for more info. Marv, thank you for being 522 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: here with us. We'll obviously talk to you again in September. 523 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully we all survive August. Accordingly, have fun, have fun, guys, 524 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: have fun, have a blast with all these transs. All right, 525 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Thanks Marv, Thank you guys for listening.