Speaker 1: What's up, friends, and welcome back to Fantasy Pros MLB.
Speaker 1: This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I am Chris Welsh,
Speaker 1: joined by Joe Rico, and we are crazy people because
Speaker 1: we're mock drafting in December.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: We are firing up the Fantasy Pros Draft simulator, the
Speaker 1: MUDs as we call it, the multi User Draft Interface,
Speaker 1: so muddy, we could call that right there. But we
Speaker 1: are in the Fantasy Pros world and we are going
Speaker 1: to be drafting with a couple of our great Fantasy
Speaker 1: Pros people we work with. I completely forgot what the
Speaker 1: term would be. Our co workers would be a good
Speaker 1: one here. It's the end of December. It's a very
Speaker 1: difficult time right now. A couple of our coworkers. We've
Speaker 1: got Kelly Kirby, we got Mike Mayer in with us,
Speaker 1: and we've got the robots, yes, the ghost in the machine.
Speaker 1: The Fantasy Pros is going to be drafting with us.
Speaker 1: We are going to be going through a standard five
Speaker 1: by five, no bench. We are going to do five outfielder.
Speaker 1: We are going to do corner and middle. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a few relievers in there. We're gonna try to
Speaker 1: give you a really good perspective of what the early
Speaker 1: values are. That's gonna be the biggest test to this
Speaker 1: mock draft. When you're mock drafting in December, you're really
Speaker 1: you know, getting an understanding of the values, or you're
Speaker 1: experimenting in the world of jumping into like you know,
Speaker 1: the early drafts of maybe NFBC and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But we are going to give you a good idea
Speaker 1: of the evaluations and a preview of the draft board
Speaker 1: and the draft system at Fantasy Pros for the coming year.
Speaker 1: Mister Joe Rico, thank you so much. You are a
Speaker 1: company man, absolutely freaking decked out and pro stuff.
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy, I'm doing well, man. It's Christmas season
Speaker 2: watching all these little Christmas specials. I got a bone
Speaker 2: to pick with you because I was doing the Fantasy
Speaker 2: Pro Show yesterday. You're a Charlie Brown hater. You are
Speaker 2: a Charlie Brown hater. I couldn't even believe my ears.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of them. I haven't seen it
Speaker 2: this year, so maybe it's one of those ones that
Speaker 2: doesn't hold up as much. But it's a classic.
Speaker 1: No, that's fine, one hundred percent. I'm not a Charlie
Speaker 1: Brown hater. I what I simply said was the Charlie
Speaker 1: Brown Christmas Special might hands down be the one thing
Speaker 1: that hold It holds up less than anything I've ever
Speaker 1: watched that I can recall, Like there are things that
Speaker 1: take you into their era and stuff like that, the
Speaker 1: perception of like, hey, Charlie Brown's Christmas and all that,
Speaker 1: like I know, the Pumpkin One and everything. I was
Speaker 1: just astonished rewatching it with my kids. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is atrocious. And there's some pretty great animation of
Speaker 1: that time. That's simply what I was saying, and a
Speaker 1: little grinchy in the holiday spirit. But it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hold it. It's a rough watch. The storytelling,
Speaker 1: the all of it is just it's not great. And
Speaker 1: I'll probably just go back to National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 2: I got to watch it this year. I'm just going through,
Speaker 2: like the Grin Show. I watched Home Alone yesterday, just
Speaker 2: getting into the getting into that holiday spirit here as
Speaker 2: we start our drafts for the year. But I mean
Speaker 2: I've already started drafting months ago, so this is more
Speaker 2: just just another practice round.
Speaker 1: Really well, yeah, Joey's been crazy, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: the holidays, but we're moving into the new year, and
Speaker 1: that's what this is going to be all about. You
Speaker 1: can get into, like, you know, some early drafts that
Speaker 1: are going on. There's Gladiators from NFBC. You can get
Speaker 1: into early best balls. I know you've already taken down
Speaker 1: six seven of those. I'm just about to jump into
Speaker 1: the way. I like to wait a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I like to make sure that I've really really honed
Speaker 1: in my rank process before i start jumping into like
Speaker 1: real serious money stuff. But we are going to tackle
Speaker 1: some of the early perception and that's going to be
Speaker 1: the thing that's going to open up a lot of
Speaker 1: people's minds in what's happening in those early best balls
Speaker 1: and Gladiators and DC's and what's going to happen when
Speaker 1: you guys start drafting. There's a host of new crazy
Speaker 1: things that are going to be going on, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll be able to do that as we go through
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Speaker 1: out and preparing what you want to do. So let's
Speaker 1: get to what we're going to do. We've got this
Speaker 1: mock draft all set up here. Mike Mayer's in the
Speaker 1: one spot. We've got Kelly Kirby at four, Joe, we've
Speaker 1: got you at seven. I am drafting at eleven. Right
Speaker 1: before or I hit start on this bad boy. Any
Speaker 1: quick thought process of how you want to attack this
Speaker 1: from that seven spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to be at least in the middle.
Speaker 2: I don't like to be on the turns because then
Speaker 2: you miss out on the runs off it's starting pitcher,
Speaker 2: if it's closer, it's whatever. So I like to be
Speaker 2: in the middle for this draft. I got to choose
Speaker 2: my spot, so I went just after the middle because
Speaker 2: I do think that there are maybe seventeen or eighteen
Speaker 2: first round worthy players, so I can get myself potentially
Speaker 2: two of them drafting. Maybe it's better to be a
Speaker 2: little farther down eight, nine, ten, guarantee yourself whatever, Julio,
Speaker 2: Carrol Combo or Jordan and Carol or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: do like to be kind of in the middle and
Speaker 2: a little slightly more towards the back end here. So
Speaker 2: I like where I am. I'm going to plan for
Speaker 2: some of course, some five category bats here in the
Speaker 2: first couple.
Speaker 1: Rounds, and that's kind of what I was looking at,
Speaker 1: is like I think there's some really really great value.
Speaker 1: At the end of drafts, we're doing a twelve team.
Speaker 1: The only thing I didn't mention about the whole process,
Speaker 1: you know, roto maybe being a little bit more king
Speaker 1: fifteen team would make sense. But again, you know, just
Speaker 1: as a nice little promotional tool to the simulator and
Speaker 1: the lobby, you can have so much customization. I set
Speaker 1: this up in minutes, was able to put how many teams,
Speaker 1: what the positions by quick clicks the time, and you
Speaker 1: can invite as many people as you want to throw
Speaker 1: out there, or you can just have the robots draft.
Speaker 1: So I'm at eleven here, I'm going to be looking
Speaker 1: at probably some combination of the really great value bats
Speaker 1: that are going to fall out. Let's see where the
Speaker 1: pitchers go, Let's see where the values are, and let's
Speaker 1: start this bad boy up. We have got our dear
Speaker 1: friend Mike Mayer, who's going to be on the clock
Speaker 1: here drafting one show. Hey Otani, sixty seven percent expert consensus.
Speaker 1: So far as the number one player doesn't have a position,
Speaker 1: it's going to just be U two, which is probably
Speaker 1: the slight little negative to it. But his production and
Speaker 1: performance is great, and I've said this before I think
Speaker 1: there are four really great ways you can go in
Speaker 1: drafts for extremes, the overall Otani, the best positional Wit.
Speaker 1: You want all the homers, Judge, you want all the
Speaker 1: stolen bases, Ellie. I think those four are a great
Speaker 1: way that you can tackle this into your drafts. And
Speaker 1: this bad boy has started up, Mike Mayor is on
Speaker 1: the clock, and I would suspect Otani is going to
Speaker 1: be our top dog.
Speaker 2: Here are you on?
Speaker 1: Are you on Otani at util?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't mind it. I mean, especially hell,
Speaker 2: if you get him as a pitcher too. There's some
Speaker 2: sites where you'll get both of those stats. If it's
Speaker 2: a daily league, then he's easily number one. If you're
Speaker 2: just talking about the offensive stats, I don't really mind
Speaker 2: going with Bobby Wit, especially if you are somebody who's
Speaker 2: going to do like a bunch of drafts. Let's say
Speaker 2: you get the number one pick like ten times. I
Speaker 2: probably would take both of them evenly, maybe sixty percent
Speaker 2: Otani forty percent Wit. But Bobby Wit, I mean, thirty
Speaker 2: thirty season, hitting well over three hundred on the upper trajectory,
Speaker 2: there's no injury concerns. It's not crazy to consider him
Speaker 2: as the first overall pick.
Speaker 1: I don't think no, and I don't think it's crazy,
Speaker 1: and that's definitely not what I'm saying. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think it is a wild crazy thing. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, I think from a statistical not worry about
Speaker 1: positional standpoint, Otani makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1: So first pick is up here and we do have Otani.
Speaker 1: Wit goes to Soto go three. Kelly is on the
Speaker 1: clock here and eighty three percent expert consents is so
Speaker 1: far in the early ranks. A lot of this powered
Speaker 1: by our expert consensus rankers, which as the season goes on,
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep going up and up. We have air
Speaker 1: Gunner Henderson going to Kelly. Aaron Judge was eighty seven
Speaker 1: percent consensus. It went Judge and then Ellie. You are
Speaker 1: now up. Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take care of a weaker position in third base.
Speaker 2: Talked about the five category prowess I'm looking for in
Speaker 2: the first round. I'm gonna go Jose Ramirez, gonna keep
Speaker 2: it simple. I mean, I could have gone Mookie beats
Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker, but I feel like Hoose Rimir is one
Speaker 2: of those guys you can pretty much write the numbers
Speaker 2: down in pen before the season. You know what, He's
Speaker 2: gonna do some variants in the runs in RBIs but
Speaker 2: so safe. It's such a weak position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that Mookie bets Kyle Tucker, Fernando Tatis Junior.
Speaker 1: That's pretty core. I mean, honestly, you would have loved
Speaker 1: one of those falling. But that's what's so great about
Speaker 1: so like ten looks like a really good spot. It's
Speaker 1: gonna feel homery. Corbyn Carol is sitting there. I kind
Speaker 1: of love and I've talked about this combination potential of
Speaker 1: you could go Corbyn, Carroll and Julio Rodriguez on the wheel.
Speaker 1: I also have the potential of jumping in in the
Speaker 1: sp market if you were to ever do or all
Speaker 1: do the pocket ASA strategy. Scooble and Skeens might be
Speaker 1: the ultimate of all time. They're also a huge safety net.
Speaker 1: But it's a battle of what are you comfortable with
Speaker 1: on the hitters versus what are you comfortable with investment
Speaker 1: on the pitchers? And I just I can't quite pull
Speaker 1: the trigger on that, but oh my, I just got
Speaker 1: sniped by the system. As I said that, I would
Speaker 1: say Julio or Skins and they both just went on
Speaker 1: the wheel. That's a phenomenon. So now I am staring
Speaker 1: at this possibility of maybe I do take the top
Speaker 1: sp I like Lindor, a lot yard on Alvarez is
Speaker 1: as safe as safe can be. You know what, I
Speaker 1: am going to do this. It is the top of
Speaker 1: the board here. Lindor is being pushed at me. Man,
Speaker 1: what do you think Scooble or Lindor stolen bases overall
Speaker 1: production or get that sp I'm tempted to lock up
Speaker 1: the sp.
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, if it were me, I'd
Speaker 2: probably go Schooble. But Jordan Alvarez is kind of like
Speaker 2: the mirror of Corbyn Carrol because you're not getting steals.
Speaker 2: The Carrol could give you forty steals and then you're
Speaker 2: getting forty homers from Jordan. It's definitely I mean, I
Speaker 2: know I didn't help you out too much there, I
Speaker 2: just give you.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do it like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with scoobl I really thought Julio was
Speaker 1: going to be my lock and if not, go schemes.
Speaker 1: But you know, get the top pitcher I've got a
Speaker 1: fifty plus stolen based guy in Corbyn Carroll and pretty
Speaker 1: comfortable with that, so I go schooble the next team.
Speaker 1: It's still a little bit high Ronald Acunya going in
Speaker 1: the second round. He's kind of falling in more of
Speaker 1: the higher stick stuff into like the third we had
Speaker 1: Lindor Vladimir Gerrera Junior, and then you just got gifted
Speaker 1: Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two o six. He shouldn't crazy all quite that far.
Speaker 2: Now the lineup around him is not what it was
Speaker 2: even a week ago, but I still think that he
Speaker 2: is a pretty damn safe pick there middle of the
Speaker 2: second round. Later he fell, I mean, he could be
Speaker 2: a first round pick and it wouldn't really shock me
Speaker 2: if he went eleven or twelve. But getting him middle
Speaker 2: of the second that is a gift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about, Yeah, there's always
Speaker 1: been this debate that's gone on just forever about like
Speaker 1: Vladimir Gera Junior or Joran Alvarez, and people struggle with that,
Speaker 1: and it's like they're just both incredibly great picks. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's like just a phenomenal spot picking up
Speaker 1: the last couple. Let's see we had, if I can
Speaker 1: get back to it, we had. You took Alvarez, Duran, Shurio.
Speaker 1: Kelly went with Freddie Freeman, which is a really solid pick.
Speaker 2: This late.
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, who I would have went with a head,
Speaker 1: went three, Zach Wheeler, Mayer did the wheel of Jackson
Speaker 1: Merrill and Chris Sale. I love the Chris Sale pick.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit lower on Jackson Maryral. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to pull the trigger on Jackson Merrill.
Speaker 1: In the second round. The last couple went Trey Turner, Olsen,
Speaker 1: Kelly got seized. So another pitcher, Jazz Chisholm, Raphael Devers, Joe,
Speaker 1: you're on the clock. I want to talk about Meryl
Speaker 1: for a second, but let's wait till after your pick.
Speaker 1: So what are we doing on the clock here? And
Speaker 1: then let's go to maryl Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't mind Meryll or debating. Yeah, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of debating a couple of different picks here. I don't
Speaker 2: mind Merrill. I think the second round is he's fully priced.
Speaker 2: You need him to absolutely smash at that rate, and
Speaker 2: there is some risk, you know, just coming off of
Speaker 2: that massive rookie season, he could regress a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be fine, but the second round
Speaker 2: feels a little a little bit much for me, especially
Speaker 2: in a twelve team or fifteen teamer. If he sneaks
Speaker 2: in the back end, the second round okay, but top
Speaker 2: twenty four for me is a little rich.
Speaker 1: You took my guy. I was going to go with
Speaker 1: Corey Seeger or Katel Marte who went right after you.
Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet would have been a phenomenal sp pick. Kind
Speaker 1: of glad I took Scoogle because that would have been
Speaker 1: who I wanted in this range. And then William Contreras
Speaker 1: insane catcher value. Talk about Corey Seeger while I'm up here,
Speaker 1: because like the production was there, you look at like
Speaker 1: the underlying stuff, it was all there. It's just the
Speaker 1: injuries are consistent. So I was gonna take him though.
Speaker 2: He's coming off of a year where, I mean, most
Speaker 2: of the Rangers were not quite what they were the
Speaker 2: year prior, coming off of the long World Series run.
Speaker 2: It was a bit of a quote unquote down year,
Speaker 2: and it was still like a one for thirty five
Speaker 2: WRC plus thirty plus homers are almost guaranteed. The injuries
Speaker 2: are a bit of a concern, but in the third round,
Speaker 2: pairing him with who I have I think have a
Speaker 2: pretty safe base there to start off with Jay Ramon
Speaker 2: Alvarez and then Seeger gives me I think forty home
Speaker 2: run upside in a lineup that should be quite a
Speaker 2: bit better this year than it was last year.
Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet William contrast, I went with Austin Riley, who
Speaker 1: I value in that same Raphael Dever's ish range of
Speaker 1: third baseman, and then it went to Ozzy Albi's Garrett
Speaker 1: Cole on the wheel. So I am back up, and
Speaker 1: I don't love this territory. If I'm being honest with you,
Speaker 1: I really really don't. So I'm gonna do something I
Speaker 1: don't usually do. But it's fourth round. I've got a
Speaker 1: pretty or yeah, it's fourth round. I've got a pretty
Speaker 1: big fall here. I'm gonna go with the top closer
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. I'm gonna go with a manual
Speaker 1: class A pairing that with one of the top pitchers,
Speaker 1: so I've got to essentially at the top of their
Speaker 1: position and one of the best stolen base guys. So
Speaker 1: I'm going for balance there. What are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: a manual class I know you're about to come up here.
Speaker 2: You're up. Yeah. I took Cole Reagan's as my ACE,
Speaker 2: and based on the way the software is set up currently,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's going to maintain. But he
Speaker 2: has a relief picture eligibility still from the year prior
Speaker 2: at that may not.
Speaker 1: It won't, it won't. That's that'll be the I can
Speaker 1: tell you right now. There are some positional things that
Speaker 1: are going to adjust into the new year. Again, that's
Speaker 1: why the software is not up. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: hack for you, but it won't be for the regular.
Speaker 2: So for now I can put them in the relief
Speaker 2: picture spot and then get that taken care of with
Speaker 2: one of them. But for Class A, I think he's
Speaker 2: still incredibly safe. The strikeout rate maybe isn't quite what
Speaker 2: you want with the elite closer like the rest of them,
Speaker 2: it's fairly the average actually, but I mean the ratios,
Speaker 2: the potential for forty plus saves, I think he is
Speaker 2: definitely I haven't done relief pitcher rankings, but he's definitely
Speaker 2: in that top two or three there with Williams and Hater,
Speaker 2: I mean maybe even maybe even Edwin Diaz like there's
Speaker 2: a cluster of elite closers, and he's definitely among them.
Speaker 1: After Reagan's I went Machado Schwarberg, That's who I was considering,
Speaker 1: Michael King very high in the fourth round of Kelly Kirby.
Speaker 1: Pete Alonso followed up that pick Willia Damas, Mike Mayer,
Speaker 1: went Mason Miller and Taoscar Hernandez. On the four or
Speaker 1: five wheel, Blake Snell, who I did want a pretty
Speaker 1: considerable amount, Altuve, Pablo Lopez, Michael Harris, c J Abrams.
Speaker 1: You took Devin Williams, Royce Lewis, Marcusimi, and Jacob de Brom.
Speaker 1: I'm up, So let's hear your take on Devin Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think that much changes going to New York.
Speaker 2: I don't love that, you know, lefties essentially have a
Speaker 2: Little League park to hit in. But I don't think
Speaker 2: much changes in terms of like, his talent is undeniable.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make like crazy comps, but he's
Speaker 2: one of the best relief pitchers I've ever seen in
Speaker 2: my life. I mean, every single year he's giving you
Speaker 2: sub to era is ridiculous, strikeout rates, ridiculous stuff. Numbers
Speaker 2: wherever he's pitching. Even if he was in Colorado, I
Speaker 2: think I'd still be pretty interested at this range and
Speaker 2: getting him in the fourth walking down one or actually, no,
Speaker 2: I got him in the fifth, didn't I be getting
Speaker 2: of the fifth? So yeah, I'll absolutely take that.
Speaker 1: I just took James Wood, followed up Santander and Zach Gallon.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one of my favorite players in the
Speaker 1: sixth round. Still, I hate passing up this other h
Speaker 1: take O'Neill Cruz. I can't ever quit O'Neill Cruz, and
Speaker 1: I get to slot him in its shortstop played shortstop,
Speaker 1: move to center field into the year, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: have dual position eligibility, good average, twenty twenty season thing,
Speaker 1: he's gonna tap into more power. So I took James
Speaker 1: Wood and him. I'm going for big, big counting stats.
Speaker 1: I've got three guys at Steel twenty three guys that
Speaker 1: can hit over two hundred. I might be a little
Speaker 1: susceptible in batting average. That's something I'm gonna pay attention to.
Speaker 1: Cleaning up those last picks after that, because we in
Speaker 1: between you, we had Santan, Darren Gallen, Luis Castillo, Josh
Speaker 1: Hater Valdez, Yamamoto. We're in a big pitching run going
Speaker 1: on right now, Logan Webb, even Naga, Kelly Kirby took
Speaker 1: a white Langford who I almost took Ryan Hellsley. You
Speaker 1: went with Yamamoto. Is that your second sp That is
Speaker 1: because you took Coll Reagans.
Speaker 2: Right after Reagan's. Yeah. Yamoto, in the drafts I've been
Speaker 2: in this year is usually a third round pick, so
Speaker 2: getting him in the sixties feels like really good bargain.
Speaker 2: He's usually going in SP one territory. But I have
Speaker 2: like co aces there with Reagan's and the Ammoto especially
Speaker 2: not going early pitching quote unquote early first three rounds
Speaker 2: were hitters. I'm pretty happy with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And point out early drafts and like NFBC and stuff,
Speaker 1: you're going to play like upside, big stolen bases, big
Speaker 1: strikeouts and stuff like that. Pitchers go higher, catchers go higher.
Speaker 1: Catchers kind of ruin the system a little bit of
Speaker 1: values because an FBC and two catcher systems. So just
Speaker 1: some things to point out here.
Speaker 2: Hate you got your league, man, I hate two catcher leagues,
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: I hate this round. Everybody just taking my guys. Nola
Speaker 1: and Vientos went to Mayor Teleglasstan was one. I wanted
Speaker 1: Brent Rooker to Kelly, I like, and you took Johann Duran,
Speaker 1: So I'm up, why don't you break us down on
Speaker 1: that is your second closer?
Speaker 2: I believe? Yeah. I mean there's a lot of drafts
Speaker 2: I've done this year where I've waited way too long
Speaker 2: on closer and then you're going with like a Calvin
Speaker 2: Fouchet or somebody is your sp two, And I mean
Speaker 2: half of people probably just said who is that? And
Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame them. So I try sometimes, especially when
Speaker 2: we have a little bit more freedom in these mocks,
Speaker 2: to try out some different builds and going with a
Speaker 2: couple of early closers. I like what I've done so far.
Speaker 2: I've got two absolute shutdown arms, Williams and Durant, and
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about it at all. And
Speaker 2: that's been something for me in the early drafting I've
Speaker 2: done where I'm sitting there in the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh,
Speaker 2: through like fifteenth round thinking I need another closer. I
Speaker 2: need another closer. Now I can just focus on the
Speaker 2: team and I have to worry about that positional stuff.
Speaker 1: I just took Jordan Westburgh, one of my favorite break
Speaker 1: out candidates who already had like just a big breakout
Speaker 1: year last year, insanely great slider of baseball savant. If
Speaker 1: you care about looking at that good hard hit numbers,
Speaker 1: barrel numbers, they're making the right feel or the I
Speaker 1: guess i'd be left field wall. They're bringing it down
Speaker 1: for right handed hitters, so it's an advantage for right
Speaker 1: handed hitters in general. It's a huge boost for Jordan
Speaker 1: Westburg talking them about eighty three. Just for people's perspective,
Speaker 1: it's about where you're gonna have to take a guy
Speaker 1: like him, and I think that's one that's going to
Speaker 1: like open people's eyes, like, whoa, you know, Jordan Westburg.
Speaker 1: That seems like a brand new one here. I currently
Speaker 1: have my technically qualifies at second here probably shouldn Onneil
Speaker 1: Cruz Riley. I've got two outfielders. I've got one starting pitcher,
Speaker 1: one closer. I'm very tempted to go starting pitcher here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. This is going gonna seem weird.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Luis Robert and I just
Speaker 1: want to throw this out Luise Robert gross year insanely
Speaker 1: bad underlying stats XBA like two ten. Everything fell apart,
Speaker 1: but it fell apart so much as I've been doing
Speaker 1: some of this work, it seems like the outlier more
Speaker 1: than it is anything else. I've kind of come to
Speaker 1: terms of that. I don't know if Robert's ever gonna
Speaker 1: become like that second round overall talent. It was so
Speaker 1: bad it reeks to me of the injury, the lack
Speaker 1: of care and play on a team that was losing,
Speaker 1: And it's such an outlier that I actually don't think
Speaker 1: the bad K numbers and with numbers and underlying data
Speaker 1: is as bad as it truly is. And he still
Speaker 1: put up big counting stats, So I kind of think
Speaker 1: it's a it's a sneakier little pick out there. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Luis Robert from my third outfielder
Speaker 1: here bevia picks a Rosarina Ozuna Holiday, you took Christian Walker,
Speaker 1: we had jan your Diaz, Brian Reynolds, Roley, Lawrence Butler,
Speaker 1: who I really considered, Gossman, Doyle, and then the ninth
Speaker 1: round started with munyez Ober and Netto Why don't you
Speaker 1: talk to us about Walker and then what you're thinking
Speaker 1: about doing coming up here?
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just seen so much data with Walker.
Speaker 2: He is essentially Matt Olsen and Pete Alonzo without the
Speaker 2: name brand value, that hard hit data, a lot of
Speaker 2: the underlying numbers. If you just were to take the
Speaker 2: three of them, put them in an Excel sheet and
Speaker 2: look at every they're like the same player. And you're
Speaker 2: paying quite a bit less for Christian Walker than you
Speaker 2: are for the other two. I'm not sure where he's
Speaker 2: gonna play yet, which does worry me a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I do think he ends up probably a Yankee stadium.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's no chance of a reunion in
Speaker 2: the desert or what are you thinking there with I.
Speaker 1: Think there is a chance. I mean you say Yankee stadium,
Speaker 1: But they just brought in Cody Bellinger, and I know
Speaker 1: Tody could be the outfielder, but he might end up
Speaker 1: being the first baseman when it's all said and done
Speaker 1: with Jason Dimingez. So I think it's kind of open
Speaker 1: right now. I think Walker might be too expensive for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks, but I know there are some conversations around it.
Speaker 1: You sneaky little sneaker.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: You just took Shane McLanahan in the ninth, which was
Speaker 1: definitely in my queue. Hunter Brown had been in, Mike
Speaker 1: que Kelly Kirby, took Robert Swarez, Tristan Cassis, Profar, Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1: That was a pretty brutal round of a bunch of
Speaker 1: like really good late sleepers, And that's kind of the
Speaker 1: sneaky thing. I think sp is crazy deep right here.
Speaker 1: I invested a second round pick in a starting pitcher
Speaker 1: and I haven't taken another one yet outside of relief.
Speaker 1: That's this is where I want to rectify that in
Speaker 1: this round which I'm up. I forgot that I'm up
Speaker 1: here because there are quite a few really really good
Speaker 1: valued starting pitchers. So I'm going to double tap here,
Speaker 1: all right, I am going to go, oh man, I'm
Speaker 1: really struggling with this. Actually, which one I wanted to do?
Speaker 1: I gotta think Joe Ryan, Joe Ryan just elite underlying
Speaker 1: stats too. Fastball ended up having just big strikeout numbers.
Speaker 1: Just love everything I saw. Grayson just went so that
Speaker 1: made my decision easier. Max Freed is a good pick here,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to pivot, and I'm going to go
Speaker 1: with Spencer Swallenbach with the Atlanta Braves. I love him
Speaker 1: and I've got him ranked really really high, great K
Speaker 1: numbers across the board, splitter with sick fastball, just was
Speaker 1: on everybody all year long. So you know, Yankee Stadium
Speaker 1: a little less friendly. I mean, Freed's gonna be fine
Speaker 1: with it as ground ball pitcher. But I like the
Speaker 1: combination of Swellenbach adding with Joe Ryan to just have
Speaker 1: like elite strikeouts areco What do you think about Schwellenbach
Speaker 1: this high?
Speaker 2: I would have taken him overt Freed. Freed worries me.
Speaker 2: Man like that elbow. Two consecutive years of four arm injuries.
Speaker 2: I did a show last year with Eno where he
Speaker 2: broke down the percentages of each injury recurring, and it's
Speaker 2: like eighty five percent chance that he eventually has surgery.
Speaker 2: So I think that's a It is a bit of
Speaker 2: a risk, and I'm not sure it's gonna be this year,
Speaker 2: next year, what's going to happen? But Freed scares me.
Speaker 2: Schwellenbach what he showed last year, incredible command, great strikeout rate,
Speaker 2: great team context. Like he's going a little bit later
Speaker 2: than I thought he would, so in the tenth round, absolutely,
Speaker 2: no question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, third sp we had Exavier Edwards go after. That's
Speaker 1: a big stolen based chase that someone's doing. But you
Speaker 1: know what, he's going to hit the top of the lineup.
Speaker 1: We had Junior Cameronaro Tovar, you took Salsuzuki, Mike Trout
Speaker 1: went after. Roki Sazaki is going to be a big one.
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger was actually a target of mind Volpi I
Speaker 1: believe we had because it moved on a sunny gray.
Speaker 1: Will Smith just quick thoughts, I know you're coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't want to distract you through your pick here.
Speaker 1: I'm curious at your pick of Riley Green and also
Speaker 1: Roki Sazaki.
Speaker 2: Sazaki and this is also like my NFBC brain. But
Speaker 2: he's going in the top like six rounds every single
Speaker 2: time pretty much. I think his ADP is settling in
Speaker 2: around the seventies once he signs. Jack that up a
Speaker 2: round or too, So any shares you can get up
Speaker 2: Sazaki outside of the top one hundred. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to pretend to be an expert on him because we
Speaker 2: haven't seen a lot of him. There's not as much
Speaker 2: data on him, as we have on players who've been
Speaker 2: in the major leagues the last couple of years. But
Speaker 2: from all accounts, he is a generational talent. I think
Speaker 2: it was Baseball America who put an eighty grade on
Speaker 2: one of his pitches yesterday, and that was kind of
Speaker 2: a big deal. Like that doesn't barely happen very often.
Speaker 2: So like this kid is incredibly talented. He's like twenty one,
Speaker 2: twenty two. He's going to go to a good situation
Speaker 2: if you can get him after pick one hundred. Do
Speaker 2: it every single time.
Speaker 1: I think I might agree with you on that. All right,
Speaker 1: I am up here there are again. I think we're
Speaker 1: in an SP territory. We mentioned being afraid I'm gonna
Speaker 1: jump on Max Freed here now that I'm getting a value,
Speaker 1: he's my SP. Four Adulas and Bogerts went behind me,
Speaker 1: and I am in a I'm in a tunnel of chaos,
Speaker 1: a vacuum here. On one hand, I have a personal
Speaker 1: friend of mine. On the other hand, I have what
Speaker 1: is like a top ten SP who's coming off of
Speaker 1: an injury and who pitched at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: justin Steele. I feel obligated to take my friend Justin Steele,
Speaker 1: But I think Justin will understand I'm gonna take Sandy
Speaker 1: el Contra. I'm I hope maybe Justin'll fall back, Probably
Speaker 1: not now, but Sandial Contra coming off of this injury,
Speaker 1: him and Shane McClanahan or two relatively undervalued players. Sandy's
Speaker 1: velo was up before the end of the year. He
Speaker 1: was throwing some looks like he's going to be healthy
Speaker 1: and get to push his innings this year. Also trade potential.
Speaker 1: There's been some trade talks. I love the prospects of
Speaker 1: getting Sandy, especially as my sp four. You scoffed, but
Speaker 1: you can't take him with McClanahan, you can't have all
Speaker 1: the posts Tommy John starting pitchers, or you don't want
Speaker 1: them at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you technically probably shouldn't. I feel like with him
Speaker 2: because he was healthy at the end of last season.
Speaker 2: If the Marlins were a team that was even somewhat
Speaker 2: serious and they were competing for anything down the stretch,
Speaker 2: I think he probably would have returned. But because they
Speaker 2: were already officially eliminated, there was no point in risking it.
Speaker 2: But he had another six months of recovery onto that
Speaker 2: I don't see him as big of a risk as
Speaker 2: a lot of people do. So I'll probably be maybe
Speaker 2: overweight to the field on Sandy this year, is the
Speaker 2: best way to put it.
Speaker 1: I like that, all right, So let's see if I
Speaker 1: can potentially pick back up where we were. So in
Speaker 1: that round I took so it was a twelfth round.
Speaker 1: I took Sandy and went Ersag Pasquentino literally top of
Speaker 1: my cue, Brandon Nemo, Contreras terrang Luke Weaver probably not
Speaker 1: great losing his job. Jake Berger also at the top
Speaker 1: of my que that went to Kelly Radon Indy, Mike
Speaker 1: Mayer went Luis Garcia, Jason Dimingez back to back. Diminga's
Speaker 1: pick is freaking phenomenal. After that, we had Kelly taking
Speaker 1: Justin Steele, Horner, Finnegan, you took Jared Jones, wu Cronenworth
Speaker 1: and Low. Did you want our friend of the show
Speaker 1: Justin Steele? Are you happy with that Jared Jones pick?
Speaker 2: No. I like Steel a lot. I mean, he's been
Speaker 2: so consistent the last I mean since he entered the league.
Speaker 2: He's one of the most consistent pitchers. But there was
Speaker 2: also some arm trouble in September I don't think it
Speaker 2: was that serious, like he made his last start. I
Speaker 2: believe still doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling though,
Speaker 2: to draft a guy who did have some arm trouble
Speaker 2: down the stretch. So I actually don't think I've landed
Speaker 2: on Justin Steele this year. The price is reasonable enough.
Speaker 2: There's just something that worries me a little bit there
Speaker 2: with anybody who had any kind of arm problem. But
Speaker 2: I think we're getting to the point where it's pretty
Speaker 2: hard to find a picture who hasn't had some kind
Speaker 2: of arm problem, And at this price, I think it's
Speaker 2: definitely a fair range to take a shot on him.
Speaker 2: For sure. It's probably later than he should be going
Speaker 2: if we're being on it.
Speaker 1: Man, I can't believe I'm gonna do this. I'm taking
Speaker 1: an empty stat but I need batting average to carry
Speaker 1: back up Luisa Rise. I'm gonna let Louisa Rise push
Speaker 1: my team up just a tiny bit. I really have
Speaker 1: taken some some risky shots where I might be tanking
Speaker 1: batting average, but I have some pretty intense stolen bases
Speaker 1: on my team. I've got Carol Wood, Robert, I've got
Speaker 1: some big homers and Riley Oneo Cruz. I will say
Speaker 1: I probably need to bulk up on the power a
Speaker 1: little bit more if I'm that's just my personal feeling.
Speaker 1: If I am gonna end up taking a guy like
Speaker 1: Luisa Rise, which is just a bit risky, there are
Speaker 1: quite a few players I like here. I don't oh Man,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna see if I can slip a
Speaker 1: guy by. I'm gonna take a closer. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Pete Fairbanks here. I needed a second closer. We got
Speaker 1: two RP spots. I'm gonna play a risk to see
Speaker 1: if I can get my guy to fall back to me.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if it ends up happening. Kirby Gates, Kakuchi,
Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be a relatively reliever round. Joe,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about doing here?
Speaker 2: In round fourteen, I'm gonna take a bit of a chance,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go Spencer Strider fifth sp At this
Speaker 2: point of the draft, I know it's risky. I know
Speaker 2: it's risky, but I think especially in leagues where you
Speaker 2: guys are going to have IL spots, which is the
Speaker 2: majority of people play in leagues with IL spots. At
Speaker 2: that point of the draft, Okay, you got to stick
Speaker 2: them on the shelf for a month, even two months,
Speaker 2: you pick up somebody else and then maybe you get
Speaker 2: four months of Spencer Stryder. I pick one fifty one sixty.
Speaker 2: I kind of love it, to be honest, even though
Speaker 2: I don't say that it's without its risks. I like that.
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Speaker 1: Looks like I am up This round went Pepio, manaia Ohapi,
Speaker 1: Johannio Springer, Lane, Thomas Lao, Josh Low, Langaliers Burlson, and
Speaker 1: Real Muto. You took mister Josh Low. Pretty good combination speed,
Speaker 1: not pizza hut taco bell, but you know, speed and power. Josh,
Speaker 1: Did he fill out a positional need of outfield for you?
Speaker 1: Were you low on outfield?
Speaker 2: He filled out a categorical need for me. He's my
Speaker 2: fourth outfielder. But speed, I've I mean, I'm going to
Speaker 2: probably handily be at the top of the power projections
Speaker 2: with Walker Seeger, Jay ram Alvarez, a Zuki Green. But
Speaker 2: the stolen bases of those guys I just mentioned there's
Speaker 2: a lot of maybe not zeros, but really low numbers,
Speaker 2: and I think I need a guy who has the
Speaker 2: potential for thirty five forty steals and you get the
Speaker 2: huge park upgrade coming this year as well for those
Speaker 2: raised bats. So I love me some Josh Low. If
Speaker 2: you're pushing pick two hundred, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a killer Bylow. So the guy
Speaker 1: wanted to fall back Louise Heel. I know people are
Speaker 1: weird about Louis Heel. They didn't want to trade him.
Speaker 1: He is still considered one of their top pitchers. He
Speaker 1: gets to move down the rotation. He's going to get
Speaker 1: to push more innings this year. I think Louis Heel's
Speaker 1: in a great spot, especially for strikeouts. I got a
Speaker 1: good core of starting pitchers that he's like my SP
Speaker 1: five or six. I really wanted him to push back,
Speaker 1: and I want all the shares of Tyler O'Neal I
Speaker 1: can get Baltimore Oriole Right handed hitters are going to
Speaker 1: have an increase this year. How about a thirty plus
Speaker 1: home run guy who talked about in an interview. Tyler
Speaker 1: O'Neal mentioned recently that he wouldn't have signed with Baltimore.
Speaker 1: He didn't even consider Baltimore until they move those dimensions.
Speaker 1: Analytical hitter understands who he is gonna pull that ball
Speaker 1: more thirty five plus Homer. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: huge power potential. Might not even show up in the
Speaker 1: projections right now. He's my fourth outfielder. Love getting Tyler
Speaker 1: O'Neil here, because, like I said before in my construction,
Speaker 1: I don't love Louis. I'm not a big Louis Riis guy,
Speaker 1: and he does hurt you in some aspects. But if
Speaker 1: I can stack up some more power, I can kind
Speaker 1: of mitigate what he takes away from me because I
Speaker 1: have elite speed and I'm still building in some good power.
Speaker 1: I need that batting average there. Joey, Joe, you ended
Speaker 1: up this pass round taking Zach Eflin. We also had
Speaker 1: Alexis Diaz, Stevenson, Copeck, Kowser, Rafaela love that pick, Mayor went,
Speaker 1: Jimenez and Rob Ray, Rangifo and Boz talk to us
Speaker 1: about your pick and what you're looking at doing coming up.
Speaker 1: Are you getting into the territory of like you've got
Speaker 1: some positional needs? You got to feel pretty quick here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, second base is one that I don't usually like
Speaker 2: to wait this late on, but that's generally speaking in
Speaker 2: a fifteen team context. In a twelve team er, there's
Speaker 2: still some options I shouldn't wait too too far. But
Speaker 2: that's the next thing that really needs to be taken
Speaker 2: care of. The Zach Eflin pick. For anybody who's followed
Speaker 2: me for the last few years knows that I have
Speaker 2: an irrational love of Zach Efflin. I think it's the
Speaker 2: whip you can get from him. Now the park, the
Speaker 2: ball coming in in Baltimore is not my favorite thing,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it hurts him too too much,
Speaker 2: and I think that he is another guy that should
Speaker 2: be going a little bit earlier than he is. One
Speaker 2: eighties feels too late for Zach Eflin. He was disappointing
Speaker 2: last year because of what he did in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: but if you look at the numbers, they're still very
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: All right, eure up. We had Tolia, we had Tanner,
Speaker 1: Scott go, Chris Sanchez. I love that Tolia pick. Some absurd,
Speaker 1: absurd hard hit numbers and hitting in Colorado also not
Speaker 1: some great. Brenton Doyle has some of the heaviest home
Speaker 1: road splits, which gets you worried about hitters. Sometimes. We
Speaker 1: didn't really see that with Tolio. There's like forty plus
Speaker 1: home run potential with him, but not to compare necessarily too.
Speaker 1: But like Doyle was like two hundred on the road
Speaker 1: and three hundred at home if I remember correct, They
Speaker 1: don't believe Tolia had as extreme home road splits. So
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there that I actually really love
Speaker 1: that as like a sneaky pick. In Tolia, you ended
Speaker 1: up going with who did you? Oh, you went with
Speaker 1: Zach Gelloff. We had Rainaldo Edmund and Boden Francis Win.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty fun pick. Are you buying the bounce
Speaker 1: back of Galoff? I guess around two hundred, it's kind
Speaker 1: of easier to buy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still needing steals, still needing a second basement with
Speaker 2: the park up grade. I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 2: good buy back opportunity for Gelloff. Not my favorite target
Speaker 2: as a starting second baseman, but considering I kind of
Speaker 2: messed up and left that one a little bit too long,
Speaker 2: I'll take it. I will say, though, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be like the technology is going to hate my draft
Speaker 2: because it's like three picks in a row and labeled
Speaker 2: as reaches. So I'm on the lookout for eleventh out
Speaker 2: of twelfth place in this year.
Speaker 1: Well again I will. I'll say, like you guys all
Speaker 1: can't come into the multi user interface that we're doing
Speaker 1: here where you can like add all these other people,
Speaker 1: so you will experience if you do the draft simulator,
Speaker 1: the ranks of especially the consensus ranks that are being posted,
Speaker 1: they're still coming up, so as they go the reaches
Speaker 1: will start differentiating. You know, some of those reaches are
Speaker 1: going to be powered by like Mayor and Kirby and
Speaker 1: myself and Scott White posted his because I have a
Speaker 1: few as well. I just took Esock Parades and that
Speaker 1: definitely could seem like a reach. Give me him back
Speaker 1: in Houston like Cubs, eh, But now you go and
Speaker 1: put me in a low left field for a guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how Alex Bregman lived. Alex Bregman lived
Speaker 1: by pulled fly balls, get it up in the air,
Speaker 1: big launch angles. That's the only way that esoch Prates lives.
Speaker 1: And he did it in Tampa Bay, couldn't do it
Speaker 1: in Chicago. So I'm back. I just took him and
Speaker 1: then I followed him up with Dansby Swanson, who I
Speaker 1: get to put in middle endfield, Not that I'm a
Speaker 1: necessarily enamored, but solid twenty ten guy that I can
Speaker 1: put in my middle infield and not having to be
Speaker 1: a starter, just trying to round out this offense overall.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Esac?
Speaker 2: I think it's funny that the Astros traded a top
Speaker 2: ten player in baseball for a guy who just specifically
Speaker 2: fits into their ballpark. I think that's kind of like
Speaker 2: a bizarre move for them to make because Parades is
Speaker 2: an okay player, but as kind of I mean, the
Speaker 2: prospect they got back is supposed to be fantastic as well.
Speaker 1: Cam Smith is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cam Smith is like absolutely no joke, big, big, hard
Speaker 1: to hit stuff. He hit over three hundred in his debut,
Speaker 1: Homers were starting to crush, great college bat, had some
Speaker 1: swing and mis issues. Looked like that was kind of fixed.
Speaker 1: Huge analytical team. So Cam Smith was a huge get
Speaker 1: in a nutshell to Tucker. It doesn't make sense, but
Speaker 1: you have to remember Tucker's on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: so that's why it did. They got like a top
Speaker 1: ish prospect and they got a player that literally will
Speaker 1: thrive where they play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Parides could hit thirty home runs like pretty easily,
Speaker 2: and even last year was a bit of a down.
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like more of a down here
Speaker 2: because of once you got Chicago, he didn't really do anything.
Speaker 2: Still Salid WRC plus it was like one ten range
Speaker 2: or so. He's still much better than league average. I
Speaker 2: think he's a thirty home run bat. It's just kind
Speaker 2: of weird the way the teams are doing things, Like
Speaker 2: they bring in Kyle Tucker and then they trade Bellinger
Speaker 2: immediately after. Like you'd figure you'd get one year of
Speaker 2: bell or one year of Tucker. You'd want to have
Speaker 2: Bellinger there as well instead of trading him for you know,
Speaker 2: a minor league reliever essentially. But weird stuff going on.
Speaker 2: Until teams have fully completed their moves, you never really
Speaker 2: know what they're up to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're up right now. The last couple picks
Speaker 1: last round we had after Dansby, Jock Paania, Kerry Carpenter,
Speaker 1: you took Bryson Stott, Brandon Fott went in the low
Speaker 1: two hundreds, poor Hodge, Diaz Woodruff, Shanwell and who was
Speaker 1: our last one? The system moved out to e Valdi
Speaker 1: and then we started the next round ten Or Haw
Speaker 1: Hellyo Ramos. That was when I was looking at David Bednar,
Speaker 1: Taj Bradley, Jansen, Parker Meadows, right before you, Jake McCarthy, Estevez, Glabor, Torres, McKenzie.
Speaker 1: I'm up a boy. Was I looking at Parker Meadows
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you were at all before
Speaker 1: taking Jake McCarthy.
Speaker 2: No, I'm still kind of I think with McCarthy. Now,
Speaker 2: I've completed the speed that I needed to get. I
Speaker 2: got Stot, I got Gellof, I got McCarthy, I got
Speaker 2: Lao kind of makes up for the power heavy build. Initially,
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking at Meadows, but I do like Parker
Speaker 2: Meadows quite a bit. And I also wonder just hearing
Speaker 2: the name for ever going to see Austin Meadows again.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's going to be a guy that
Speaker 2: pops out of the scene or if we're just kind
Speaker 2: of seeing the last of him. At this point, it
Speaker 2: feels like.
Speaker 1: We I don't know if we've seen the last, but
Speaker 1: it feels like we're in the final stages of seeing
Speaker 1: the last. I'm gonna go with this is gonna be
Speaker 1: util play Trevor story. You just got to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But it's a twenty twenty play. I get him around
Speaker 1: two thirty. I love that for my util and I've
Speaker 1: also created some flexibility. I just want to throw out
Speaker 1: to you guys that member Onio Cruz qualifies at outfield.
Speaker 1: In short, I have an outfield spot open. I could
Speaker 1: move Cruise to outfield, and now I have Dansby Swanson
Speaker 1: and Trevor's story at short and middle. So that little
Speaker 1: tiny bit of flex position flexibility I get down with that.
Speaker 1: I can definitely get down with that. I have left
Speaker 1: a catcher, I've got technically an outfielder, and I have
Speaker 1: one pitching spot. So those are my last couple spots
Speaker 1: that I've got to fill out here. There's quite a
Speaker 1: few interesting pitchers that are still sitting on the board.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel like locked in that
Speaker 1: I need to get any of them. I'm going to
Speaker 1: jump in take my outfielder. I'm a sucker. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take Byron Buxton two thirty playing in the outfield, hopefully
Speaker 1: a bounce back. I don't love any of the outfielders
Speaker 1: right here, but I just I kind of can't quit him.
Speaker 1: That's my fifth outfielder, easily expendable. So I've got two
Speaker 1: more spots. I'll have the catcher and last spot to
Speaker 1: fill out. What do you have left to fill?
Speaker 2: So just a Jung Hu Lee who is going to
Speaker 2: function as a fifth outfielders last utility bat. Him and McCarthy,
Speaker 2: however you want to arrange them, Let's call him the
Speaker 2: utility bat. So I have a corner infield spot and
Speaker 2: a pitching spot left at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, So Mike, let's see we just had Kelly Kirby.
Speaker 1: Go Jeffrey Springs, who was traded to the A's again.
Speaker 1: Ballpark might not be like the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Kind of love Jeffrey Springs, but don't love the destination
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. Mike Mayor just went Nolan Jones. He's
Speaker 1: on the clock for the last round. I guess this
Speaker 1: is twenty two. I thought it was twenty one rounds.
Speaker 1: He just took. Jorgees Solaire was one I was also
Speaker 1: looking at. So Jorgees Silaire, Austin Wells, Cutter, Crawford. Kelly's
Speaker 1: on the clock. You are up, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: your final two picks coming up here. You're on the
Speaker 1: clock now, Joe after Kelly took, Mike kel Garcia, Tyler
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald went, and Clark Schmidt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Josh Young was who I wanted in
Speaker 2: that final that final corner spot there, that's a little disappointing.
Speaker 2: So I need to do a little bit of a
Speaker 2: pivot here and I might shoot for some upside with
Speaker 2: Kyle Manzardo. It looks like they are orchestrating things so
Speaker 2: that he will have a role. That's why they got
Speaker 2: rid of Spencer Horwitz. I think right after they acquired
Speaker 2: him they didn't want to further clog up first base.
Speaker 2: I think that Mansarto especially, I think it's September hit
Speaker 2: like two eighty with five home runs, like you seem
Speaker 2: to figure things out. Looks like he's gonna play every day,
Speaker 2: So I like that as a utility spot, our corner
Speaker 2: infield spot. I guess, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I am going to yeah, we'll do this, and I
Speaker 1: should take a young guy out here. We're going to
Speaker 1: tap Jackson Job, who I could cheat in the relief
Speaker 1: pitching spot if I end up wanting to looks like
Speaker 1: I think early projections around one hundred and forty innings
Speaker 1: of the Tigers. I really love that. My last spot's
Speaker 1: a catcher. Love Sean Murphy, Travis Darnault out of there.
Speaker 1: Probably Drake Baldwin going to be in there. So I'll
Speaker 1: take that high powered offense. Give me a catcher and
Speaker 1: a high powered offense. That's my final pick for my
Speaker 1: final construction. After these last couple of picks, we are
Speaker 1: going to jump over just for a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: when we are going to see the system give us
Speaker 1: the grades. Which again that's something that's I it's my
Speaker 1: one of my personal favorites about this where it'll give
Speaker 1: you some insights on your teams. You can see experts
Speaker 1: who love or dislike yours, and especially as the experts
Speaker 1: come on. It's really one of my absolute favorite things.
Speaker 1: And the big key at this point is will I
Speaker 1: love my own draft the most because my ranks are
Speaker 1: up there. That's going to be the big key to
Speaker 1: this whole bad boy oh who had that sneaky pick?
Speaker 1: Team five just took Matt Shaw super sneaky pick. Saw
Speaker 1: he went inside the top two hundred of a December NFBC.
Speaker 1: Looks like he's locked into that job. Shout out to
Speaker 1: that pick. That's very good. System. Hated my draft though,
Speaker 1: I ended up getting like a C grade here. So
Speaker 1: we'll do a quick analysis of our own teams. Oh man,
Speaker 1: what a brutal win here. Coming in the bottom is
Speaker 1: me Chris Welsh at the very bitty bottom. Joe you
Speaker 1: came in at seven, Kelly Kirby at three. Mike Mayor.
Speaker 1: Mike Mayor won the draft behind the scenes too, we'd
Speaker 1: actually done this other thing and Kelly won it, and
Speaker 1: Kelly was like, oh great, I win and I'm out.
Speaker 1: And now Mike Mayor ends up winning the team.
Speaker 2: He scored perfect. He scored one hundred.
Speaker 1: One thousand percent. It's loved by my community. Team. Let's
Speaker 1: look at yours, Joey, your insights. You pull up your
Speaker 1: team because we'll give you. I'm going to just give
Speaker 1: out what the roster construction is of your team. The
Speaker 1: quick insights, you were top four in stolen based average
Speaker 1: and eer. When we're looking at your team, you know
Speaker 1: it had a couple of reaches. I wouldn't worry about
Speaker 1: the reaches right now. It did say you drafted one
Speaker 1: player in the top three of their position. That was
Speaker 1: Josier Ramirez, Joe Pisa Pia on the expert consensus ranks,
Speaker 1: loved you the most. Mike Mayer also loved, and I
Speaker 1: also loved. Who did not love is Kelly Kirby and
Speaker 1: Andy Barns from Yahoo. So those are some dislikes on
Speaker 1: your team, though I guess we don't have the grete
Speaker 1: up yet. That'll be coming. I was curious that, like
Speaker 1: what the overall scoring system of it, let's hear your team,
Speaker 1: Let's hear what the construction of your team ended up being.
Speaker 2: So I started Jose Ramirez, Jordan Alvarez, and Corey Seeger
Speaker 2: as the offensive base, went with Cole Ray Baigans and
Speaker 2: Devin Williams as the next two picks, and then Yamamoto,
Speaker 2: Joan Duran, Christian Walker followed that up with Shane McClanahan,
Speaker 2: Saya Suzuki, Riley Green, Wilson Contrerez who is catcher eligible
Speaker 2: that will be playing first base. So like that Jared
Speaker 2: Jones in the thirteenth round, followed by Spencer Strider, Josh Lowe,
Speaker 2: Zach Eflin, and then another Zach and Geloff, Bryson Stott,
Speaker 2: Jake McCarthy, Jung Hu Lee, Kyle Manzardo and then I
Speaker 2: ended out with DJ Hurts.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you your favorite and least favorite
Speaker 1: pick or part of this, like really early construction, because
Speaker 1: I look at this, I love your infield. I kind
Speaker 1: of like the late value of Bryson Stott. I think
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Your outfield, I think is really strong, and
Speaker 1: I think that's something that fades with a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You got your closers, which with a good investment, I
Speaker 1: think you did a great job of values on you have.
Speaker 1: You have some injury risk though on your pitchers. You
Speaker 1: know mcclanahemy Yamamoto, Jared Jones, you actually have an incredibly
Speaker 1: risky high It's a low floor high upside. I don't
Speaker 1: love your corner middle of Kyle Manzarto and Gelloff, especially
Speaker 1: in the twelve Man. I think that kind of struggled.
Speaker 1: But everything is give and take, like you can't nothing
Speaker 1: can be all perfect. So that's how I kind of
Speaker 1: foresee it. I would probably wait your pitcher injuries as
Speaker 1: a much bigger negative if I had to pick a negative.
Speaker 1: While saying that, I thought your offensive construction, besides that
Speaker 1: corner middle was like really strong, particularly with a couple picks,
Speaker 1: but what's your favorite let's say pick and least favorite
Speaker 1: pick or part of the construction.
Speaker 2: I think the favorite has to be Wilson Contrerez and
Speaker 2: say is Suzuki, Like those guys are big targets of mine.
Speaker 2: Suzuki if he stays healthy, like he is one of
Speaker 2: the best twenty or twenty five hitters in baseball, I
Speaker 2: think he's a five category guy going well after a
Speaker 2: lot of the other ones. And now we've swapped Cody
Speaker 2: Bellinger for Kyle Tucker mentioned Wilson Contreras. He's going to
Speaker 2: be playing first base, So catch your eligible guy that
Speaker 2: you're getting. I love that, probably gonna be playing one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five games, hopefully one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: games maybe if things break right. So I love those
Speaker 2: two picks. I got them both later than we're generally seeing.
Speaker 2: The Manzardo and Geloff pairing, I admit, is a little
Speaker 2: bit weak. It's more just shooting for upside, especially with Manzarto,
Speaker 2: and the pitching depth is maybe not the depth, but
Speaker 2: the riskiness of the arms that I took. I can
Speaker 2: understand what you're talking about. McClanahan. I don't know how
Speaker 2: exactly to feel about these guys coming off of Tommy John,
Speaker 2: the mcclanahan's of the world, the alcntras. I feel like
Speaker 2: they're relatively safe. But that's also like maybe there's a
Speaker 2: bananappeal on the floor a couple feet in front of
Speaker 2: me that I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit, you know, I was doing my analysis.
Speaker 1: I'm on starting pitchers right now, and I'm pretty deep
Speaker 1: into it. I love McClanahan more than most people. I
Speaker 1: have for a long time, but there is something startling
Speaker 1: when you're like, Okay, you can't look at his twenty
Speaker 1: four because he didn't pitch. Let's look at twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: K percentage is down like five percent, you know, like
Speaker 1: it was a dramatically down K percentage. And yes, you
Speaker 1: could be like all right leading up to that, so
Speaker 1: like I don't care about like what the second half
Speaker 1: numbers are because leading up to it, the arm issue
Speaker 1: was probably going. But the whole year it was like
Speaker 1: really dramatic decreases. So I am worried about Shane McClanahan
Speaker 1: a little bit. But that's why I'm saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: upside is fun and stuff like that. Way too risky
Speaker 1: of it, and I don't think like, come February, you
Speaker 1: would put together this risky of a class of starting pitchers.
Speaker 2: This is the thing with starting pitchers is right now
Speaker 2: we're looking at the pool and we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of arms, and then we're gonna
Speaker 2: lose fifteen or twenty of them to injury by March.
Speaker 2: So maybe it'll be McClanahan, maybe it'll be Strider. I
Speaker 2: mean Strider. Hopefully he doesn't get hurt again by March,
Speaker 2: but there'll be a couple of guys who get hurt,
Speaker 2: and you know, the pool be thinned out. So looking
Speaker 2: at these teams now taking some shots, hoping guys stay
Speaker 2: healthy by the time it gets to March. Where I'm
Speaker 2: doing my more expensive main drafts, probably will play it
Speaker 2: a little bit safer.
Speaker 1: But the nice thing with a guy like Strider too
Speaker 1: is it's like a cheaper cost. It's like if you
Speaker 1: could get a guy like a Schemes, you know, you
Speaker 1: eat a month and then you get the rest of
Speaker 1: the year production. If that's like what Strider is, and
Speaker 1: you are paying the cost, which is outside the top
Speaker 1: one hundred, it actually is good I like Strider. I
Speaker 1: actually think Strayder could be a good pick. It's just
Speaker 1: when you paired it with the amount of hurt pitchers,
Speaker 1: that's the risk here. So I ranked garbage. I ranked it.
Speaker 1: Did not like the system of what I put together here.
Speaker 1: I did say I took I'm going to say two.
Speaker 1: It's putting Bucks in as a top DH. But Riley
Speaker 1: and Tarik Skouble, I don't think it's acknowledging a manual
Speaker 1: Class A because I got multiple positions inside the top
Speaker 1: of their spot top three projected to be top four
Speaker 1: in saves. It really didn't like the other stuff. But
Speaker 1: I will say expert opinion me it love. I love
Speaker 1: my draft the most, of course I figured I would.
Speaker 1: Mike Mayer also liked it. Pierre Camu liked it, with
Speaker 1: James Wood. Andy Barns also did not like mes so
Speaker 1: Andy is very mad at us right now and a
Speaker 1: piece of p I hated it. Didn't like Class A,
Speaker 1: James Wood, Corbyn Carroll, he's just being a hater here.
Speaker 1: When we take a look at my team, Sean Murphy
Speaker 1: at Ketcher, my infield, Luis Arrise, Jordan Westberg's qualifying at second,
Speaker 1: I can't remember he's actually going to or not. I
Speaker 1: don't think he is Oneal Cruz at Short, Austin Reiley.
Speaker 1: My corner Middle eastac Parateiees Dansby Swanson. My outfield was
Speaker 1: Corbyn Carroll, James Wood, Luis, Robert Tyler, O'Neil Byron Buckson,
Speaker 1: Trevor Story at U Till, my pitching, Trek Scugle, Max Fried,
Speaker 1: Spencer Swellenbach, Joe Ryan Sandale, Contra, Luis Heel Jackson job
Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Class and Pete Fairbanks. So you know, I
Speaker 1: look at this team and I have way too much
Speaker 1: inherent hitting risk. I think I think my batting average,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't do a good job at the
Speaker 1: batting average with some of the risk pieces that I have.
Speaker 1: I think I have way more power production than I
Speaker 1: mean given credit for same thing with stolen bases. But
Speaker 1: you know, I like, if Robert fails, he's going to
Speaker 1: just drag down my whole team. If he boosts back up,
Speaker 1: it's going to be huge. Trevor Story has got some
Speaker 1: injury kind of woes in there, and just a rise
Speaker 1: just kind of stands out is like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that's going to be. I love my pitching staff
Speaker 1: I think I put together and I'm shocked I didn't
Speaker 1: get great better an a class starting pitcher slash closer
Speaker 1: set up there. So I am extremely happy with my pitching.
Speaker 1: I'm not as happy with my hitting, and that's not
Speaker 1: a good way to leave a draft. Joe, give me
Speaker 1: the same thing as there something you love and hate
Speaker 1: about the team I constructed.
Speaker 2: The thing that worries me the most. I won't say
Speaker 2: that I hate it because I've done it myself a
Speaker 2: few times and I alluded to it earlier is falling
Speaker 2: behind a little bit on my second closer, and I
Speaker 2: think Pete Fairbanks is a concern.
Speaker 1: It's a good point.
Speaker 2: The numbers fell for him last year a little bit.
Speaker 2: They're going to a more hitter friendly park, and there's
Speaker 2: also like six different options in Tampa that could close.
Speaker 2: It could be Useeta. I mean, Rasmussen's probably going back
Speaker 2: to the rotation, but I don't know for sure. They
Speaker 2: signed somebody the other day that I saw people hyping
Speaker 2: up as another sub three era reliever, so he'll probably
Speaker 2: be the next Billy Wagner or something.
Speaker 1: But one of the things with that I will point
Speaker 1: out for a second, how do we had bench, I
Speaker 1: was gonna take aj Puck. Also, I think there's some
Speaker 1: in just this instance, Like you know, if Tanner Scott
Speaker 1: had a home and I knew he's gonna be a closer,
Speaker 1: it might have considered him. There were a couple that
Speaker 1: I just stared at. Kirby Gates is sitting out there.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a home that I think the market
Speaker 1: for closers right now is a little bit wonky. But
Speaker 1: to your point, it was it was like a struggle.
Speaker 1: What's something about the construction that you dug? I think
Speaker 1: you do have a more nothing good Lord with that
Speaker 1: pause there.
Speaker 2: I think you have more balance than you give yourself
Speaker 2: credit for. Because I think if you are looking at
Speaker 2: like the true power bats you got, I mean O'Neil Cruz.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the in game power necessarily, but
Speaker 2: he could very easily hit thirty plus homers. Same with Riley,
Speaker 2: same with Parades Carol, twenty five would probably twenty five,
Speaker 2: Lou Bob thirty, O'Neil like thirty. You got speed spread
Speaker 2: out with I mean a little bit in Westburg, you
Speaker 2: got cruise. Carol is a huge cushion there would like
Speaker 2: that average is a little bit high variance, because Carol
Speaker 2: could hit two thirty or he could hit two ninety
Speaker 2: and neither outcome would really surprise me. And there's a
Speaker 2: couple of guys where there is some potential. The same
Speaker 2: with lou Bob. I mean if lou Bob hit two
Speaker 2: seventy or two twenty, neither ones really surprised me. So
Speaker 2: a little bit of high variance with the batting average,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a pretty well balanced offense. And
Speaker 2: even your pitching, I think is like you said, you
Speaker 2: got Tarik Skooble Freed is not somebody that I'm terribly
Speaker 2: interested in, but you got him I think well after ADP,
Speaker 2: So no real complaints there. Sandy I love would have
Speaker 2: probably taken him if I didn't already have McClanahan. And
Speaker 2: we've alluded to the compounded risk there. But I think
Speaker 2: I think you did a really good job. Safe enough
Speaker 2: team with upside and pretty balanced. So I can't really
Speaker 2: can't really complain about it too much.
Speaker 1: We'll do a quick look. We apologize to Kelly here.
Speaker 1: Kelly did finish three, so Kelly got to come on
Speaker 1: to get your analysis here. You didn't win, you did
Speaker 1: win the last one, So shout out Kelly did win.
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick quick look to
Speaker 1: Mike Mayer because he did win. Piece of PA loved
Speaker 1: his team. It said he is projected in the top
Speaker 1: four of Homer, stolen bases, wins, saves, k ERA, and
Speaker 1: the best of run, RBI and whip. That's nine. That's
Speaker 1: it's top four and nine of the top ten categories.
Speaker 1: That's why he crushed it. He projected at the tippy
Speaker 1: top across the board. And that team quickly was Will Smith,
Speaker 1: that catcher, Vientos, Luis Garcia Merrill who's qualifying at short
Speaker 1: which shouldn't by the way, and Colt Keith, Nolan Jones
Speaker 1: and Mason Wynn on corner. Middle Outfield is taoscar Doyle Yelich,
Speaker 1: Jason Dimingez, Solaier andresiman Is at util. Pitching was Chris sale,
Speaker 1: Aaron Nola, Ivaldi, Hawk, Robbie Ray also had Otani. I
Speaker 1: forgot about that. That's they slotted him kind of weird,
Speaker 1: Andres Munios and Ryan Pepio. That's actually probably why they
Speaker 1: slotted him a little bit weird. It's a pretty good construction.
Speaker 1: There's a couple players I'm actually not super into him,
Speaker 1: not into Jones. I'm not into Brenton Doyle. I love Domingas,
Speaker 1: I love the Otani build in here, but I think
Speaker 1: the system was messing around with although Tani just a
Speaker 1: tiny bit more. But that is what the number one
Speaker 1: constructed team looks like. What is your number one team construction?
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Speaker 1: thanks so much for drafting buddy. It was fun doing this.
Speaker 1: I know it didn't count for the money like you did,
Speaker 1: but we're going to probably draft into some soon. Appreciate you, buddy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, man. It's always good and we get
Speaker 2: to do a show together. I said it on Leading
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