1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: and Ri with here. Robert Moss with us as a 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: good latest book, Growing Big Dreams. Will tell you how 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: you can get this book. In just a moment, Robert, 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about the crisis of imagination. I'll let 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: you finish up, and then we've got a million other 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: great questions. I'm still recovering from the report that Weuiji 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: boards are being sold in England. Oh, I know what 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: You've got to watch what you invite into your space? 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: That's right, very relevant the subject of dreaming and imagination. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: What are you going to invite in? You're going to 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: open your windows in the night and say, whoever's up 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: there coming in and party in. Auiji board is a 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: bit like that. We've had all these horror films telling us, 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: like The Exorcist, telling us where Auiji board can lead. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: One of the things I say to people very rationally 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: is you're going to go dreaming, particularly if again to 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: extend it to ask all projection OBEs that kind of stuff. 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: You better be careful, you know about the neighborhoods that 21 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: you frequent about what you invite into your space. So 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from the news that you know, my 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: friends in England are the Sellinguiji boards for that is 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: very far. You want to use your imagination a lot 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: better than that. Absolutely, Dreaming is a very powerful thing, though, 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's huge And you know what, George, I've 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: noticed since the pandemic came upon us that more people 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: are willing to talk about dreams, shared dreams, and seek 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: guidance on dreams than before. Lots of people who wouldn't 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: open about dreams are doing it now, partly because people 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: are looking for sources and resources beyond the obvious, partly 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: made because they've got more time, Partly maybe because you know, 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: they're shut up with a few people and they want 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: something new to talk about. And one element in the 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: dreams that are being shared, I mean lots of them 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: anxiety dreams. Lots of dreams reflect the trauma and the 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: concern about the world around us. But one of the 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: most fascinating aspects of dreaming today in terms of the 39 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: increase in reports and the type of report is lots 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: of people are talking about dreaming about those who have died, 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: and the dreams bind large are not anxiety. Dreams bind large, 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and I see many dreams. I could read two hundred 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: dream reports today if I wanted to be a teacher 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: and a leader. Many of the thoughts that I see 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: are dreams in which people are seeing people, including some 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: who've died during the virus pandemic, who are doing okay 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: on the other side, and they're learning from the dreams 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: that there's life beyond life, consciousness survives death. You might 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: be okay, you might even have a good situation on 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: the other life, and you might if you're approaching death yourself, 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: have good people who are waiting for you. So I 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: actually see in the patterns of dreamings is during the 53 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: pandemic that there is this very positive aspect. People are 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: becoming more willing to recognize that. One of the things 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: dreaming teaches us. I have no theology about this. This 56 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: is something that is in my experience and our observation 57 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: for many years. One thing they're learning from dreaming is 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: that consciousness or soul survives death. That's an important thing 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: to know. You might have been taught it by your 60 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: faith or your church. It's important to know at firsthand 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that dreaming can tell 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: you when you're departed, come calling on you, or you 63 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: find yourself in their realm. And lots more people are 64 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: talking about this kind of thing. I think this is 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: very important at a time and death is all around us, 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: it's a very important thing for us to focus on 67 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: when we dream. How comes Some people just don't remember 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: their dreams. That's a lot of us, Well, we don't 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: have any we haven't had any social support for one thing. 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no social advantage, no social reward to 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: sharing dreams, and many people, you know, just let them go. 72 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: So you know, if you want to, if you want 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: to start remembering your dreams, you need a kind of 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: basic practice. The most basic practice does it gets yourself 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: a notebook or a pretty journalist you like, and write 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: something down. Every day you don't have a dream, you 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: write something down in the morning, what you feel, you know, 78 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: whatever's going through your mind. And when you do that, 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: you're saying to your dream producers. Some dreams are like 80 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: movies that we feel are being made for us. That's right, 81 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: the person of the world. You're saying to your dream producers, 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm listening, I'm ready to record, and you 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: might find that in itself changes things. Another thing that 84 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: can help is to have a way when you do 85 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: have dreams of sharing them in which you can get 86 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: some helpful feedback from someone else and the guided towards 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: appropriate action. I invented a process for doing that. It's 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: a simple, full step process for sharing dreams or stories 89 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: and getting towards some kind of action. And you know 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: there's something else you can do a couple of other things. 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Very briefly. You know, you might think you've got nothing, 92 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: but you might have just the smallest little fragment. Maybe 93 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a song, maybe it's a sense 94 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: of color. You can play with that, help that in 95 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: your mind, play with it under the shower, see or 96 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: something more comes to you. So don't blow off your 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: fragments if you haven't been a dream recaller. And finally, 98 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: for now, you know the world around you will speak 99 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: to in the manner of a dream. You know there 100 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: are signs and symbols and synchronicity at play all around 101 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: us in everyday life. And part of my practice as 102 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: a practical dreamer, a walking, open eyed dreamer, is when 103 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: I go out in the streets. I don't travel as 104 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: much as I used to. The first unusual, unexpected thing 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that comes into my field of perceptions I will receive 106 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: as a dream for the day, you know, a signal 107 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: of some kind. It might be that overheard conversation on 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: the cell phone, might be the kid's chalk drawing on 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, It might be the behavior of that dog. 110 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: So I will be prepared going out into the street 111 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: to receive absolutely the first thing that enters my field 112 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: of perception as something like a dream speaking to me 113 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: from the world around you. When you're wanting to play 114 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: that game of looking for dreamlike signs and symbols around you, 115 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: it's funny. It sometimes opens the forces and the dreams 116 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: of the night start coming through. Now with dreams, there's 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: also nothing more exhilarating, Robert than waking up to a 118 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: great dream. Whether you know it's it's a relationship or 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: your job or something. But if it ends happy, it's great, 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, I was feeling rather blo earlier today, George, 121 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: not because I was coming on your show, but coming 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: out nap, I'm not feeling too great. I had this 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: tiny little dream I'm on the ground to some grand 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: country house, maybe an island, and they are huge BlackBerry 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: bushes which they've allowed to grow wild and free, and 126 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: there's otherwise manicured lawn, and some people have piled up 127 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: a great pyramid or can of I love blackbreest, eating 128 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: the blackbreest, and I wake up with the taste of 129 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: black bees in my mouth, feeling so juiced, so energized, 130 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: so happy. It's like my dream producers said, Okay, let's 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: get him revd up to Georgia's show. Let's make it. 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Let's make sure he's not going on feeling dull and down. 133 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: And this tiny little dream I wake from it's so happy. 134 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I've got the taste of the black beez on my mouth. 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid is to love to wade 136 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: into those huge spiked black peop bushes, come out and 137 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: bleeding with a pail full of black buzs in my hand. 138 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: So sometimes it doesn't have to be a big story, 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be an epic. But there's a 140 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: sort of homeostatic pattern in some of these dreams. Some 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: of them can revive us. And here's something else to 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: know about dreams. Right now, George and it's very important 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: in these shutdown times of pandemic. You can be as 144 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: social as you darn well like in your dreams. You know, 145 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: you can get out and about your masth free, meet 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: anybody you like, have whatever degree of the hard contact 147 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: with them you like. And you can travel without leaving home. 148 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: You can absolutely go wherever you like in some version 149 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: of this world or beyond this world. So these are 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: great aspects of dreaming. You can set your destination and 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: do destination travel. I'd like you're going to Paris to 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: night you know, I'd like to go to the Ozaks. 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to go to Transylvania. I'd like to go 154 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: to Atlantis. I'd like to go to the astral realm 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: of the moon, and you might get there. So these 156 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: are great advantages of dreaming. Whether you regard as entertainment 157 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: or education or initiation, all of these things are possible, 158 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: and I think they're more important than ever. I think 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: more people are interested than they ever were before because 160 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: of the conditions of the pandemic. Robert, what are nightmares 161 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: trying to tell us? Well, first of all, let's be 162 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: clear about the vocabulary. A nightmare is more than a 163 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: bad dream, A nightmare in my lexicon. This is me talking. 164 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: You won't nest you find this in other people's books, 165 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and I miss just a not just a bad dream. 166 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: It's an interrupted dream. You don't like it, you'd dislike 167 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: it so much you want to run away and get 168 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: out of it. And I think that whatever's going on 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: in a nightmare is something you need to know and 170 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: you need to recognize it might be a challenge coming 171 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: into your life of any kind. The nightmare might reflect 172 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: the unions would say, some shadow aspect of yourself that 173 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: you haven't recognized, part of you that you've put in 174 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: the basement like a prisoner because you won't recognize that. 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: The nightmare might contain a challenge that is looming in 176 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: your life, whether it's a challenge to your healthy your job, 177 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: your marriage, or something else you haven't wanted to look at. 178 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: But whatever exactly is going on in that scary dream 179 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: that you run away from, you want to learn to 180 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: get back into that space and confront it and deal 181 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: with it. Okay, they're bad dreams, are just so? Or 182 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: who just want to spit them out? You can do 183 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: that too, But there's a certain kind of nightmare and 184 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: picture if it's a recurring situation that you need to 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: face because the truth of the matter is, and you 186 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: said something like this, you don't face that on its 187 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: own ground, it's likely to come after you in physical 188 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: life and bite you in the rear end or somewhere else. 189 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: So I counsel people, as you're scared of something in 190 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: a dream and you run away from it and leave 191 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: it as a broken dream, a nightmare. You want to 192 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: learn to do something that is fundamental to my teaching 193 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and practice. You learn to you need to learn to 194 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: put yourself back in that space. Imagine you can re 195 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: enter that space, go back right in that space. Face 196 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: the monster, open the locked door, deal the situation. If 197 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: you can on its own ground about of that can 198 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: come healing and clarity and information, and you might sometimes 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: sign that what is scaring you in your dream as 200 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: actually an ally or a power in disguise. Can I 201 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: tell a brief story about oh, absolutely sure things okay? 202 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: When I first started living in North America, I started 203 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: dreaming of bears in a way I didn't remember from 204 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: my earlier life. And I grew up in Australia. Bears bears, bears, Wow, 205 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: they're very cute. But they're not bears, and I started 206 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: bring of bears in a different way. There a huge 207 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: bear is trying to get into my space. I'm scared. 208 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not attacking me, but it's so big. I'm scared 209 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: of it. And finally I said to myself, this is many, 210 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: many years ago. I said, Okay, I got to go 211 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: back in this dream and face the bear and try 212 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: to understand what's going on. So I sit down in 213 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: an easy chair, no drumming, no special aids. I just 214 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: imagine I'm in front of the bear and the bear 215 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: is right there, and he's big, and he's ranked, and 216 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: he's serial. I'm scared, and I will myself to go 217 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: up to the bear in this imagined scene and confront 218 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the bear and try and understand what's going on. And 219 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the bear wraps he has great arms around me. I 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: think I'm gone. He's going to crush my rib cage. 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: But it's a gentle hug. Suddenly we're the same size. 222 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: And as it evolved, he says to me, mind to mind, 223 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: look at the heart. And I look at the heart, George, 224 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: and I see my heart and the heart of the 225 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: bear are joined by something like a thick umbilical cord 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: pumping energy back and forth, and I understand the bear 227 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: and I are joined at the heart, and the bear 228 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: says to me, mind to mind, call on me, and 229 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I'll show you what you need the healing, and I'll 230 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: help you to help other people find healing. And that 231 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: promises the earth being kept ever since. So it became 232 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: a very big story in my life. I found an alla. 233 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: I found an aller. We can all do with the 234 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: psychic or spiritual ally in life. I found the bear 235 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: because the bear came to me, but I had to 236 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: brave up to face him. What I thought was a 237 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: scary dream or nightmare was actually an invitation to claim 238 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: a connection and a power. But I could not have 239 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: claimed if had I been unable to brave up. Because 240 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: you've got to brave up to find the support of 241 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: the greater power. So that's what I learned then, and 242 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: that's what I bring into my interaction with other people 243 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: when they're having scary dreams. Maybe there's a power to 244 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: be claimed behind your fear if you can manage to 245 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: step through the fear and face the challenge and find 246 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: out what it is. I had a dream. Let me 247 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: briefly tell you about it before the break, Robert, and 248 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: with a little background, went to the University of Detroit 249 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: and Michigan got my degree in communications. You needed one 250 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight credit hours in order to get 251 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: your BA degree, and that's what I had, one hundred 252 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: and twenty eight credit hours. When I was nineteen, I 253 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: got a job at a television station in Detroit. When 254 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: I was twenty one, I got a full time job 255 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: as a radio reporter in Detroit. I had to switch 256 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: my classes from daytime to nighttime. And I promise my dad, Dad, 257 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get the degree in four years. Don't worry, 258 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: we'll do it. And I did, and I did, But 259 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I started waking up with these 260 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: horrible dreams that I was a credit hour short and 261 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I didn't get my degree. And I was so upset 262 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: about this, Robert, that I got my diploma and put 263 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: it by my bed. So when I woke up every morning, 264 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: I would see my degree. What the heck was going 265 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: on with me? Well, I would think that maybe there's 266 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: another test coming up. Maybe maybe if if that's my sequence, 267 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: if those are my dreams, I think maybe there is 268 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: another test. In a sense, I'm going to have to 269 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: earn one more credit even though I did all that. 270 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: What is the new test? What is a new credit? 271 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be going to be prepared, to bone 272 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: up for, to be prepared for. That's what I would think, 273 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: because life is a school, isn't it. Listen to more 274 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern 275 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: and go to Coast to Coast am dot com and 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: for there