WEBVTT - Everybody Loves Caroline Rhea 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.880 This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:11.400 Thing from iHeart Radio. My guest today is famous for 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:16.400 playing a witch and keeping us in stitches. Actor, comedian, 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:22.600 and my dear friend, Caroline Ray. The Canadian born performer, 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.680 came up as a stand up comic in New York City, 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.040 working in the Bloomingdale's Perfume counter by day and performing 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.559 open mics at night. In the nineties, she moved to 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.640 Los Angeles and soon after landed the television role that 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:42.000 would make her famous, Aunt Hilda in Sabrina the Teenage Witch. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.400 Since then, she has taken her talent many places, performing 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.640 stand up on Comedy Central, HBO, and Showtime, helming The 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.840 Caroline Ray Show, hosting The Biggest Loser, voicing the Disney Channels, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.120 Phineas and Ferb, and appearing as a panelist on game 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.200 shows like Hollywoo with Squeers and With Me on Match Game. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.560 Yet Ray always comes back to her first love. She 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.920 recently got back on the road performing stand up across 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.399 the country. But don't let the perky, smile and buoyant 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.680 personality fool you. Her humor can be body. It's hard 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.600 to pick a name like, I wanted to name her 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.400 Emmy because I've always wanted an Emmy, And but when 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.480 we were trying to pick her middle name, it was 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.640 like everybody was giving a suggestion. So someone said what 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.680 about Lily, And I'm like, no, that's like a poled answer, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.800 absolutely not. And no one said what about Marie? And 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.280 I'm like, my mother's like, that's so Catholic. Like oh, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:43.320 and so my daughter's father's mother said well, what about Gina, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.959 And everyone's like that's so pretty, and I'm like, hello, Ava, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.160 Gina is not going to be my daughter's name now. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.760 Caroline Ray had her daughter Ava in two thousand and 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.600 eight and took ten years off of her career to 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.360 focus on raising her. I wanted to know what that 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.440 time of her life was like. I did stand up, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.160 but I would do it. I would do occasional corporates 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.720 and I would but I would cut way back. I 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.519 would maybe go on the road two or three times 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.760 a year, but I would do stand up locally. But no, 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.680 I really thought I was like lucky enough to have 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.680 a baby as old as I was, and I was not. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.280 There was nothing at the time that was going to 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.400 be more interesting than she was at a comedy club 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.680 and I felt like I'd already been there. And then 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.120 when she was about two and a half, I was like, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.080 I have to go on stage right now. And then 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.400 I did a special, so I worked on that. But 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.880 I would say in the last year, I've done more 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.840 stand up than I have in fifteen years. I'm like, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.800 every night I'm at the comedy store or the improv 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.119 doing something I don't know. After COVID, I thought I'd 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.080 never do it again, and then I got COVID and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.240 I was like, Okay, it's not as bad, and then 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.840 I ran to a stage as quickly as possible. But 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.440 it's weird. It's it doesn't matter what I do. That 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.560 is where I'm happiest. Yeah, what is what is your 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.440 happiest like of all the things you do? Being in 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.119 a movie? Probably right, no no no, no no no, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.680 a plate or this. I like doing this. I mean, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.160 we do this and we're not trust me, we're not 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.800 getting rich to in this podcast. But you were brilliantly 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.120 funny as a game show host too. You take off 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.320 when you just said that about nothing is interesting in 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.600 a comedy club as this. I said, to watch the 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.160 Journey of human development, day by day, up close the 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.440 good and the bad. Because my kids are either uproariously 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.600 funny or I want to throw them off the balcony. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.480 There's just nothing I found that could be placed. Though. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.119 Did you find that when you after that period, when 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.760 did you decide you were going to go back into 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.200 it hard charging in full time? Well, at some point 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.400 I thought, I'm like, I call it a MoMA. It's 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.720 like a mom coma. Or you're just in it, you 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.080 know what I mean. That's what you're doing. You're being 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.080 a mom or you're being a dad, and you're being 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.160 it so fully, and every minute of that is the greatest. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.000 Like I feel like my life went from like at 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.160 a great life and the minute ever was born into 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.760 technicolor like it's just it was winning the lottery for me. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.440 And it took so long and it came. You know, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.200 my dad died, My parents got diagnosed with cancer one 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.640 week apart, and my dad died, and the next month 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.520 I got pregnant naturally at forty three, So I feel 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.600 it was like a spiritual miracle. I was told I 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.359 had a one percent chance of getting pregnant, so I 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.320 believe in all that. So it was one percent, but 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.960 I was just going to say that. At some point, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.560 I thought I have to be an interesting person for 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.159 my child, and I have in no way sacrifice anything, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.320 because she's given me everything in raising her and being 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.359 with her. But I want her to have a passion 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.760 in her life that she loves and a purpose. She's fourteen, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.240 and I feel like it's my purpose to be a comedian, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.400 and now after having done it for so long, I'm 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.039 not trying to get a special I'm not trying to 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.880 get a TV show. I'm not doing it for anything 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.960 other than the fact that if I go in a 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.760 room and at the end of that hour, I've elevated 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.400 anybody in any way to be in a happier place, 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.640 I feel like my job's done, and I feel like 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.479 that's what we need to be doing. I feel like 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.799 concentrating on what we have in common as people again 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.760 like to sort of reunite us. And I also think 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.680 my mom didn't have a voice at this age. I'm 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.800 never going to give up mine, and there are women 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.599 my age that exists that are thriving that need to 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.000 see themselves being spoken about. How is it different now 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.200 than when you started in terms of being on stage. Well, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.640 you could say anything on stage in nineteen eighty nine, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.720 and now you know you have to be socially respectful, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.120 and it's just it's very different. But also stand ups 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.159 how I process my life. The audience is sort of 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.159 therapy and we figure out what's going on. And I 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.200 always say this, but the only reason I was successful 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.080 is I thought it was so unique. It' because I'm 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.320 not in anyone unique. I'm exactly like everybody else. That's 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:47.600 exactly like everyone else. But when I first started, I 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.360 wanted to talk about sex. Then I want to talk 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.440 about everything that women are traditionally not supposed to talk about. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.680 That's what I want to talk about. I remember being 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.240 called the Liz Fair of comedy and I thought, wow, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.240 that's like the biggest compliment. You know how to clean right, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.800 And I'm assuming because you've done a lot of network 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.760 stuff you have to play a clean like Tina. They 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.520 taught me that. She said, this is harder with standards, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.440 and because we have to find another way to say 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.320 it right. We can't be dropping the F bomb and 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.320 everything all the time. I don't know what your most 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.800 famous thing is, but like if I say you're a name, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.279 to a man, they immediately say Glen Gary, Glenn Ross. Yeah, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.440 but for me it was Sabrina, which is what you're 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.760 most known for, which I will be forever grateful for. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.320 But all of a sudden, I had eight year olds 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.599 in the audience, and I remember saying to them, do 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.240 you know what boundaries are? And they said yes, I 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.320 go because your parents don't. And then I thought, okay, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.040 now I have to change my ACCT because I'm never 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.559 going to teach a child something it's parents. Their parents 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.920 haven't taught them. You're not their parents now. So then 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.960 I then I sort of adjusted my act and I 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:47.360 would say, I don't know, it's probably more for everybody now. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.800 I just like writing a joke about something like I 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.080 wrote a joke that if you date someone in the military, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.240 I didn't know this, but after sex, the protocol as 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.280 you're supposed to say thank you for your servant, I said, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.360 and I did it. He was an army ranger, so 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.719 I think he had intimacy issues with After sex, I 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.920 went to the bathroom and he parachuted out of the window. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.720 So like, to me, that's processing something that actually happened. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.280 I'm not going to go into nitty gritty detail anymore. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.640 Probably maybe if I was in a group full of 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.720 just women, because women speak in the most intricate, disgusting 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.440 way about sex that you have no idea. You're more like, oh, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.840 her whatever. But we're like, we could do a court 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.880 sketch of any penis we've ever been told about. Yeah, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.800 but when you're out there now, like when you started 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.240 describe your first stand up comedy gigs, this was in 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.680 Canada before you came here. I never did in Canada 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.000 because you know, you can't be a prophet in your 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.760 own town. I moved to New York. Scott Blakeman taught 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.960 a class at the New School to called stand up comedy. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.640 And then the first time I went on stage was 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.320 at the Comic Strip, and I had all these Australian 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.240 friends who were completely broke, who are now like giant 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.480 titans of business who you know, sold their companies for 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.520 hundreds of millions of dollars. And then like, really, because 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.800 I paid for every dinner in the nineties, And as 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.040 I walked on stage and John Wiley said, you're really bad, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.880 and I'm like, I'm not even at the mic yet. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:05.960 It's like in Ireland they heckle you on the way 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.520 like you're a fat I'm I'm not at the mic yet, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.840 you can't pre echo me. And then I just remember 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.920 standing there and doing it, and I thought, I have 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.440 no idea where I am or what I'm doing, like 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.840 I said, And then I just said, I can't imagine 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.400 how many times you're at your job and you get 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.360 up and look around and go, I have no idea 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.720 what I'm doing here or where I am. Oh, I'm 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.360 a dentist, whatever it is. I just and then that 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.040 was it. And then I went on stage probably five 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.280 hundred times a year for the next few years, going 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.920 to every open mic possible. My sister could lip sync 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.760 my act from the back of the room. She was 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:40.720 so supportive. It's funny the performance. Jean, Did you know 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.079 you were a performer back then when you were in Canada? Oh? Yeah, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.560 I mean I was always in plays and I was 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.520 always sort of I think that's the thing about a 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.240 stand up. Before they get on a stage they're doing 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.319 those poor people that they grow up with have heard 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.120 their material all the time. There's something that is triggered 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.040 in me. If there's you know, more than a certain 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.760 amount of people you know, it wakes up in me 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.240 that and if it's a thousand strangers, then it really 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.280 wakes up at me. It's a weird thing. It is 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.960 that complete love of performing. Billy Joel came on the 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.839 show in one of our earliest shows he did. Billy 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.320 Joel comes on the show and he says that, you know, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.080 one of the conditions of his success is everywhere he goes, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.760 people are like, Billy, do you mind it's Christmas? Just 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.760 a couple of tunes. We just had it tuned. The 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.640 pianos right over here. Just a couple of songs, please, Like, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.760 everywhere he goes, if this a piano in the room, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.280 everybody's like, Billy, does everybody ask you to do the 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.600 wedding toast? Do they ask you to do the you know? 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.120 Are you always asked to get up and be funny? Yes? 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.640 Which is like literally the only thing that will make 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.840 me not funny. So the first place you go from 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.920 Canada when you come to the US as where New 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.239 York City? You go to New York I moved by 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.400 I can't remember if it was eighty five or eighty seven. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.720 I was flying back from Tucson, where my dad lived. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.880 Sitting next to this very gorgeous model who was talking 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.920 to me about his famous brother who was on Notts Landing. Oh, no, Billy. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.560 It was with Billy. And then we shared a cab home. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.079 I was on the opprest side, he was on the 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.480 breast side, and I was so mesmerized by him, handsome, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.640 he was. I left all of my luggage in the cab. Yeah. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.920 So when you come to New York, is it hard? 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.320 That's terribly hard. It's awful. Was it hard to break in? Yes? 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.600 I felt like New York was a giant balloon and 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.440 I had a cotton ball And I remember my friend 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.760 Norm McDonald was on Letterman and he brought me with him, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.240 and I remember sitting backstage the old Letterman, Yeah, the 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.840 early nineties, And I remember sitting backstage and Christy Turlington 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.720 was the other guest, and there were these giant cookies 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.560 with jam in them. About the fact that that's what 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.040 I remember from Letterman, right, the treats in the green room. 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.440 And then I remember just thinking I just want to 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.360 be a part of whatever this is. I need to 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.559 And it was like I was invisible. Nobody would even 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.480 you know, like talk to me basically, and I was 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.120 just there for norm sitting in the back and then 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.920 arding him and Melissa Ethritz was the other guest too, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.880 and I was like, I just want to be this 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 is this is all I want. And I loved Letterman 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.120 so much. That was very hard. It was very hard. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.600 It was. And then I went on the road and 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.840 did colleges and I would just cry and I would 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.480 call my sisters or support. It was just really hard 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.600 because the thing about comedy that's so hard is that 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.480 you're so seemingly connected to people and then you are alone, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.720 you know, and then you're alone in your room. You 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.280 were with so many people. And I fully understand now, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.760 like to me, the understanding of an extrovert and an introvert. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.200 My friend Peter Johnson is like an expert in this, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.400 and he said, an expert it's someone who really finds 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.719 energy from other people. That's their life source. And an 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.480 introvert is ultimately drained by being around too many people. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.880 And I am truly an extrovert. I can't even get 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.720 something done if I'm alone, But if someone's in the 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.360 other room, I can function really well. Wow. But if 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.280 I'm alone, I'm like, hmm, no, But you have such 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.320 a command on stage, Like, there are people who come 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.760 up and you know you're not Stephen right right, Well, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.439 I couldn't even find you inside the wallpaper. They could 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.880 all blends together in terms of his personality. But he's 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.640 very funny. He's incredibly funny. But you are an entertainer 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.160 of the old school, where you're up there and right 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.840 away first of all, and I told them this before 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.720 you came here. I go, this woman is. Everybody loves you. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.600 Everybody loves you. You have an energy. You walk on 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.360 and you don't even open your mouth and you're halfway home. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.480 People just adore you. There's a warmth, there's a love, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.440 there's a graciousness. They know they're going to see a 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.240 good show. You have a persona before you even start 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.080 telling jokes. Did you have to find that a warmth? 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.559 I sound so sappy, but I am genuinely so happy 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.960 to be there, and especially after COVID, I'm so grateful 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.240 to be there, and that the fact that I've been 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.079 doing this long and an audience is still coming to 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.960 see me. I am so happy to see them, you know. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.520 But you're most comfortable when you're on stage. Probably you 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.360 really love it. Yeah, I feel like I always think 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:56.839 my stand up as a dinner party. I know what 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.280 I'm gonna make, you're my guests. I don't know what's 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.319 going to happen. But the thing about stand up that 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.400 amazes me is it's only going to happen in that 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.839 moment in time. Even if we film it, it's never 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.640 gonna be what it feels like live. So I think 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.000 it's just an exchange of energy. Now, you were in 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.600 New York, went out to kept the apartment in New York, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.200 finally gave up the apartment of New York, and you're 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.160 living in LA what's the difference for you, because I 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.760 have my theory about that. What's the difference for me? Well, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.319 the difference to me is that there's so many more 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.679 actors out there than there are in New York. Like, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.560 every time I see a picture of you in your Instagram, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.280 you're like, you know, hey, it's me and so and so. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.080 You're like at this eventure, this party, and it's very 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.800 social in the business. There's a lot of opportunities at benefits. 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.160 It's in a giant office, That's what Los Angeles is. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.600 It's a giant office, but I'm really there more as 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.600 like I don't need to live there anymore. I mean, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.400 it's just that my daughter's in school there now and 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.439 she's connected to that. And even though I lived in 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.680 New York for thirty years, I come back and it's 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.920 the boyfriend who I loved more than anything. But I 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.760 know why we broke up, Like, I don't want to 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.559 live here anymore. It's too many people. Yeah, I feel chlaustrophobic. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.360 And then when I'm out there, I'm like, stop talking 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.760 about hiking. I don't care. Yeah, it's just it's such 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.320 like I just can't believe you're talking about hiking and 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.560 how the hike was, how it was just walking up 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.319 a hill with rocks. Stop talking about it. It's just torture. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.800 But I think about that because because most of my 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.079 friends who were living here moved there in the nineties. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.080 They're all out there. They're all there. They're all there. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.800 I mean, New York is where you come and live 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.760 because you either don't care or you've made your name 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.160 known well enough when they'll confine you if they want you. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.760 But for me, I see on your Instagram, and I'm 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.640 not saying in a judgmental way, I'm saying you remind 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.640 me about how out there you could go out every 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.080 night to an event of screening, and I hate doing that. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.280 I only have to do that for my social stuff. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.480 I just you know, it's just yeah, I don't I 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.040 could care less about going to those things. I really could. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.880 I'd much father sit and have a small dinner party 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.280 with somebody that I super interesting. How did your work 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.440 change once you had a child? I mean, who you 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.360 are before you have a child and who you are 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.320 afterwards is completely different. My sons are just I don't 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.120 know what to do in terms of theirs. They have 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.120 all this energy. They don't go to sleep, They collapse. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.160 I don't know how. I mean, if I had a boy, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.320 I would have had a nervous breakdown. I always think 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.000 of you because Ava couldn't say certain letters when she 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.600 was like a baby. You know, she couldn't say ell. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.520 You know how when they go through phases where they're 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.360 like and I remember, sure we'll called water wad and 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.680 an orange or none. And I was like, don't ever 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.600 correct her because it's so adorable. But the little boy 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.800 killing that lived across the hall, who was like, you know, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.440 they got married at age three. He was obsessed with 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.880 Thomas the tank, your show my magnum opus, Yes, your 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.120 magnum opus, and he couldn't say ours, so he would 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.240 always say do you want to play with pussy instead 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.800 of Percy? And she had a big pink clock and 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.920 she was like, do you want to play with my 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.240 big pink cock? And I was like, this is the 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.760 most horrifying soundtrack I find. Okay, I'm not the Queen 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.000 of boundaries anyway. I think Ava was seven when she 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.160 came home and said, we learned a new word today. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.880 I don't know what it means. And I go, well, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.200 how do you spell it? And oh, like, yes, you've 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.040 never heard it at this house. So I think one 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.440 being a single parent, I overcompensate because you know, she's 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.840 with me the most of the I mean, she has 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.320 a lovely father, but she's with me most of the time. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.640 I've always said to where I go, if we do 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.640 all the yeses, they're far fewer knows, like, if you 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.480 do everything you're supposed to do, I will say no, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.600 probably much less than the average parent. How are you 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.240 with your daughter about media? We were great until we 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.960 went to Australia and I did the Melbourne Comedy Festival 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.240 and then I was like, she's going to get something 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.640 electronic to, you know, so that she can be distracted. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.960 I regret it terribly, I really do, because I think 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.080 that we're all so addicted to it, you know. I mean, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.480 I lost my iPhone recently and they were three of 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.760 the happiest days of my life. You know. It's nice 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.880 to be disconnected in the summer, no electronics until six 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.120 and we're all together, like my sisters and all the 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.680 we are all together as a family. So I like 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.240 that now, you do, Sabrina, Yes, and when I'm want 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.919 to talk about that in a little detail about what 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.359 that experience was like, because that's a classic TV show, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.560 you know what I mean. And that's all I ever 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.639 wanted to do was be on a sitcom, That's all 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.679 I mean. I have this thought that many people have, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.320 which is that you know, these things are now on forever, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.600 you know, I know, if you're one of the stars 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.159 of Friends or Seinfeld, it's like that's going to just 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.840 follow you around forever. Sabrina has been on television every 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.280 day somewhere since the two thousand and then. Amazing. Yeah, 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.040 And what was that experience like for you? Did you 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.720 love it from the beginning. It's so funny. I have 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:39.480 this horrible, horrible boyfriend and we went to Hawaii. This 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.879 is pre cell phones or whatever. It's the old, like 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.840 ever your pictures developed, And I said it and we 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.520 broke up before the pictures were developed. And I was 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.800 like so devastated by this. And I was sitting in 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.280 the Upper West Side and I got this phone call 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.440 from Neil Scovell, who created Sabrina, and she said, are 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.200 you sure you won't reconsider the part? And I'm like, now, 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.520 I have no idea what you're talking about. My managers 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.640 had never forwarded it to me. Weeks before, well, they'd 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.440 never forwarded it to me. They'd passed on it. I 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.520 knew nothing about it. And she said, will you please 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.320 you know we're casting this week. I'm going to send 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.320 you the script. And it was so long ago that 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.760 she sent it, and it was printed on like it 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.440 looked like it came on a scroll from like Yeo's exactly, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.760 because so I went across the street all the curled papers. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.600 I read the script immediately, I'm like, oh my god, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.119 I absolutely want to do this. I want to be Zelda, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.920 which was not who I was. And she said we're 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.320 really thinking of view is Hilda And I said, well, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.920 tell me about the character and she said she traps 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.960 a man in her ring for not loving her. And 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.840 I literally said, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do the 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.679 part because I had heartbroken. Yeah, I was like, I 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.640 just was like, I want this guy trapped in a ring. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.840