1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Thing from iHeart Radio. My guest today is famous for 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: playing a witch and keeping us in stitches. Actor, comedian, 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: and my dear friend, Caroline Ray. The Canadian born performer, 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: came up as a stand up comic in New York City, 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: working in the Bloomingdale's Perfume counter by day and performing 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: open mics at night. In the nineties, she moved to 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and soon after landed the television role that 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: would make her famous, Aunt Hilda in Sabrina the Teenage Witch. 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Since then, she has taken her talent many places, performing 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: stand up on Comedy Central, HBO, and Showtime, helming The 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Caroline Ray Show, hosting The Biggest Loser, voicing the Disney Channels, 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Phineas and Ferb, and appearing as a panelist on game 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: shows like Hollywoo with Squeers and With Me on Match Game. 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Yet Ray always comes back to her first love. She 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: recently got back on the road performing stand up across 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: the country. But don't let the perky, smile and buoyant 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: personality fool you. Her humor can be body. It's hard 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: to pick a name like, I wanted to name her 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: Emmy because I've always wanted an Emmy, And but when 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: we were trying to pick her middle name, it was 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: like everybody was giving a suggestion. So someone said what 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: about Lily, And I'm like, no, that's like a poled answer, 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: absolutely not. And no one said what about Marie? And 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, my mother's like, that's so Catholic. Like oh, 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: and so my daughter's father's mother said well, what about Gina, 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: And everyone's like that's so pretty, and I'm like, hello, Ava, 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Gina is not going to be my daughter's name now. 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Caroline Ray had her daughter Ava in two thousand and 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: eight and took ten years off of her career to 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: focus on raising her. I wanted to know what that 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: time of her life was like. I did stand up, 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: but I would do it. I would do occasional corporates 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: and I would but I would cut way back. I 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: would maybe go on the road two or three times 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a year, but I would do stand up locally. But no, 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I really thought I was like lucky enough to have 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: a baby as old as I was, and I was not. 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: There was nothing at the time that was going to 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: be more interesting than she was at a comedy club 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: and I felt like I'd already been there. And then 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: when she was about two and a half, I was like, 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: I have to go on stage right now. And then 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: I did a special, so I worked on that. But 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I would say in the last year, I've done more 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: stand up than I have in fifteen years. I'm like, 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: every night I'm at the comedy store or the improv 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: doing something I don't know. After COVID, I thought I'd 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: never do it again, and then I got COVID and 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it's not as bad, and then 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: I ran to a stage as quickly as possible. But 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: it's weird. It's it doesn't matter what I do. That 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: is where I'm happiest. Yeah, what is what is your 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: happiest like of all the things you do? Being in 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: a movie? Probably right, no no no, no no no, 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: a plate or this. I like doing this. I mean, 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: we do this and we're not trust me, we're not 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: getting rich to in this podcast. But you were brilliantly 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: funny as a game show host too. You take off 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: when you just said that about nothing is interesting in 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: a comedy club as this. I said, to watch the 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Journey of human development, day by day, up close the 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: good and the bad. Because my kids are either uproariously 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: funny or I want to throw them off the balcony. 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: There's just nothing I found that could be placed. Though. 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: Did you find that when you after that period, when 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: did you decide you were going to go back into 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: it hard charging in full time? Well, at some point 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm like, I call it a MoMA. It's 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: like a mom coma. Or you're just in it, you 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's what you're doing. You're being 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: a mom or you're being a dad, and you're being 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: it so fully, and every minute of that is the greatest. 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Like I feel like my life went from like at 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: a great life and the minute ever was born into 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: technicolor like it's just it was winning the lottery for me. 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: And it took so long and it came. You know, 78 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: my dad died, My parents got diagnosed with cancer one 79 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: week apart, and my dad died, and the next month 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: I got pregnant naturally at forty three, So I feel 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: it was like a spiritual miracle. I was told I 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: had a one percent chance of getting pregnant, so I 83 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: believe in all that. So it was one percent, but 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I was just going to say that. At some point, 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: I thought I have to be an interesting person for 86 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: my child, and I have in no way sacrifice anything, 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: because she's given me everything in raising her and being 88 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: with her. But I want her to have a passion 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: in her life that she loves and a purpose. She's fourteen, 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's my purpose to be a comedian, 91 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and now after having done it for so long, I'm 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: not trying to get a special I'm not trying to 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: get a TV show. I'm not doing it for anything 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: other than the fact that if I go in a 95 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: room and at the end of that hour, I've elevated 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: anybody in any way to be in a happier place, 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I feel like my job's done, and I feel like 98 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: that's what we need to be doing. I feel like 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: concentrating on what we have in common as people again 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: like to sort of reunite us. And I also think 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: my mom didn't have a voice at this age. I'm 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: never going to give up mine, and there are women 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: my age that exists that are thriving that need to 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: see themselves being spoken about. How is it different now 105 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: than when you started in terms of being on stage. Well, 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: you could say anything on stage in nineteen eighty nine, 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: and now you know you have to be socially respectful, 108 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: and it's just it's very different. But also stand ups 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: how I process my life. The audience is sort of 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: therapy and we figure out what's going on. And I 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: always say this, but the only reason I was successful 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: is I thought it was so unique. It' because I'm 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: not in anyone unique. I'm exactly like everybody else. That's 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: exactly like everyone else. But when I first started, I 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about sex. Then I want to talk 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: about everything that women are traditionally not supposed to talk about. 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: That's what I want to talk about. I remember being 118 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: called the Liz Fair of comedy and I thought, wow, 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: that's like the biggest compliment. You know how to clean right, 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming because you've done a lot of network 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: stuff you have to play a clean like Tina. They 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: taught me that. She said, this is harder with standards, 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and because we have to find another way to say 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: it right. We can't be dropping the F bomb and 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: everything all the time. I don't know what your most 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: famous thing is, but like if I say you're a name, 127 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: to a man, they immediately say Glen Gary, Glenn Ross. Yeah, 128 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: but for me it was Sabrina, which is what you're 129 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: most known for, which I will be forever grateful for. 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, I had eight year olds 131 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: in the audience, and I remember saying to them, do 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you know what boundaries are? And they said yes, I 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: go because your parents don't. And then I thought, okay, 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: now I have to change my ACCT because I'm never 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: going to teach a child something it's parents. Their parents 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: haven't taught them. You're not their parents now. So then 137 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I then I sort of adjusted my act and I 138 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: would say, I don't know, it's probably more for everybody now. 139 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I just like writing a joke about something like I 140 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: wrote a joke that if you date someone in the military, 141 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but after sex, the protocol as 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: you're supposed to say thank you for your servant, I said, 143 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: and I did it. He was an army ranger, so 144 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: I think he had intimacy issues with After sex, I 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and he parachuted out of the window. 146 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: So like, to me, that's processing something that actually happened. 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into nitty gritty detail anymore. 148 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Probably maybe if I was in a group full of 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: just women, because women speak in the most intricate, disgusting 150 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: way about sex that you have no idea. You're more like, oh, 151 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: her whatever. But we're like, we could do a court 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: sketch of any penis we've ever been told about. Yeah, 153 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: but when you're out there now, like when you started 154 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: describe your first stand up comedy gigs, this was in 155 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Canada before you came here. I never did in Canada 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: because you know, you can't be a prophet in your 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: own town. I moved to New York. Scott Blakeman taught 158 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: a class at the New School to called stand up comedy. 159 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: And then the first time I went on stage was 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: at the Comic Strip, and I had all these Australian 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: friends who were completely broke, who are now like giant 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: titans of business who you know, sold their companies for 163 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. And then like, really, because 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: I paid for every dinner in the nineties, And as 165 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I walked on stage and John Wiley said, you're really bad, 166 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not even at the mic yet. 167 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: It's like in Ireland they heckle you on the way 168 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: like you're a fat I'm I'm not at the mic yet, 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: you can't pre echo me. And then I just remember 170 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: standing there and doing it, and I thought, I have 171 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: no idea where I am or what I'm doing, like 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: I said, And then I just said, I can't imagine 173 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: how many times you're at your job and you get 174 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: up and look around and go, I have no idea 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: what I'm doing here or where I am. Oh, I'm 176 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: a dentist, whatever it is. I just and then that 177 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: was it. And then I went on stage probably five 178 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: hundred times a year for the next few years, going 179 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: to every open mic possible. My sister could lip sync 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: my act from the back of the room. She was 181 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: so supportive. It's funny the performance. Jean, Did you know 182 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: you were a performer back then when you were in Canada? Oh? Yeah, 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean I was always in plays and I was 184 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: always sort of I think that's the thing about a 185 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: stand up. Before they get on a stage they're doing 186 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: those poor people that they grow up with have heard 187 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: their material all the time. There's something that is triggered 188 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: in me. If there's you know, more than a certain 189 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: amount of people you know, it wakes up in me 190 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: that and if it's a thousand strangers, then it really 191 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: wakes up at me. It's a weird thing. It is 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: that complete love of performing. Billy Joel came on the 193 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: show in one of our earliest shows he did. Billy 194 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Joel comes on the show and he says that, you know, 195 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: one of the conditions of his success is everywhere he goes, 196 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: people are like, Billy, do you mind it's Christmas? Just 197 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: a couple of tunes. We just had it tuned. The 198 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: pianos right over here. Just a couple of songs, please, Like, 199 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: everywhere he goes, if this a piano in the room, 200 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: everybody's like, Billy, does everybody ask you to do the 201 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: wedding toast? Do they ask you to do the you know? 202 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Are you always asked to get up and be funny? Yes? 203 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Which is like literally the only thing that will make 204 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: me not funny. So the first place you go from 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Canada when you come to the US as where New 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 1: York City? You go to New York I moved by 207 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was eighty five or eighty seven. 208 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: I was flying back from Tucson, where my dad lived. 209 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Sitting next to this very gorgeous model who was talking 210 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: to me about his famous brother who was on Notts Landing. Oh, no, Billy. 211 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: It was with Billy. And then we shared a cab home. 212 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: I was on the opprest side, he was on the 213 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: breast side, and I was so mesmerized by him, handsome, 214 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: he was. I left all of my luggage in the cab. Yeah. 215 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: So when you come to New York, is it hard? 216 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: That's terribly hard. It's awful. Was it hard to break in? Yes? 217 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: I felt like New York was a giant balloon and 218 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: I had a cotton ball And I remember my friend 219 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Norm McDonald was on Letterman and he brought me with him, 220 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: and I remember sitting backstage the old Letterman, Yeah, the 221 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: early nineties, And I remember sitting backstage and Christy Turlington 222 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: was the other guest, and there were these giant cookies 223 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: with jam in them. About the fact that that's what 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: I remember from Letterman, right, the treats in the green room. 225 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: And then I remember just thinking I just want to 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: be a part of whatever this is. I need to 227 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: And it was like I was invisible. Nobody would even 228 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, like talk to me basically, and I was 229 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: just there for norm sitting in the back and then 230 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: arding him and Melissa Ethritz was the other guest too, 231 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, I just want to be this 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: is this is all I want. And I loved Letterman 233 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: so much. That was very hard. It was very hard. 234 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: It was. And then I went on the road and 235 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: did colleges and I would just cry and I would 236 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: call my sisters or support. It was just really hard 237 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: because the thing about comedy that's so hard is that 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you're so seemingly connected to people and then you are alone, 239 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, and then you're alone in your room. You 240 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: were with so many people. And I fully understand now, 241 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: like to me, the understanding of an extrovert and an introvert. 242 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: My friend Peter Johnson is like an expert in this, 243 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: and he said, an expert it's someone who really finds 244 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: energy from other people. That's their life source. And an 245 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: introvert is ultimately drained by being around too many people. 246 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: And I am truly an extrovert. I can't even get 247 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: something done if I'm alone, But if someone's in the 248 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: other room, I can function really well. Wow. But if 249 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm alone, I'm like, hmm, no, But you have such 250 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: a command on stage, Like, there are people who come 251 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: up and you know you're not Stephen right right, Well, 252 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: I couldn't even find you inside the wallpaper. They could 253 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: all blends together in terms of his personality. But he's 254 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: very funny. He's incredibly funny. But you are an entertainer 255 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: of the old school, where you're up there and right 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: away first of all, and I told them this before 257 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: you came here. I go, this woman is. Everybody loves you. 258 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: Everybody loves you. You have an energy. You walk on 259 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: and you don't even open your mouth and you're halfway home. 260 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: People just adore you. There's a warmth, there's a love, 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: there's a graciousness. They know they're going to see a 262 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: good show. You have a persona before you even start 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: telling jokes. Did you have to find that a warmth? 264 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: I sound so sappy, but I am genuinely so happy 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: to be there, and especially after COVID, I'm so grateful 266 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: to be there, and that the fact that I've been 267 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: doing this long and an audience is still coming to 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: see me. I am so happy to see them, you know. 269 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: But you're most comfortable when you're on stage. Probably you 270 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: really love it. Yeah, I feel like I always think 271 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: my stand up as a dinner party. I know what 272 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make, you're my guests. I don't know what's 273 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: going to happen. But the thing about stand up that 274 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: amazes me is it's only going to happen in that 275 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: moment in time. Even if we film it, it's never 276 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna be what it feels like live. So I think 277 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: it's just an exchange of energy. Now, you were in 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: New York, went out to kept the apartment in New York, 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: finally gave up the apartment of New York, and you're 280 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: living in LA what's the difference for you, because I 281 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: have my theory about that. What's the difference for me? Well, 282 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: the difference to me is that there's so many more 283 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: actors out there than there are in New York. Like, 284 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: every time I see a picture of you in your Instagram, 285 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, hey, it's me and so and so. 286 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: You're like at this eventure, this party, and it's very 287 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: social in the business. There's a lot of opportunities at benefits. 288 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: It's in a giant office, That's what Los Angeles is. 289 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: It's a giant office, but I'm really there more as 290 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: like I don't need to live there anymore. I mean, 291 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: it's just that my daughter's in school there now and 292 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: she's connected to that. And even though I lived in 293 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: New York for thirty years, I come back and it's 294 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: the boyfriend who I loved more than anything. But I 295 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: know why we broke up, Like, I don't want to 296 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: live here anymore. It's too many people. Yeah, I feel chlaustrophobic. 297 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: And then when I'm out there, I'm like, stop talking 298 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: about hiking. I don't care. Yeah, it's just it's such 299 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: like I just can't believe you're talking about hiking and 300 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: how the hike was, how it was just walking up 301 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: a hill with rocks. Stop talking about it. It's just torture. 302 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: But I think about that because because most of my 303 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: friends who were living here moved there in the nineties. 304 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: They're all out there. They're all there. They're all there. 305 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, New York is where you come and live 306 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: because you either don't care or you've made your name 307 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: known well enough when they'll confine you if they want you. 308 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: But for me, I see on your Instagram, and I'm 309 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: not saying in a judgmental way, I'm saying you remind 310 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: me about how out there you could go out every 311 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: night to an event of screening, and I hate doing that. 312 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: I only have to do that for my social stuff. 313 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: I just you know, it's just yeah, I don't I 314 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: could care less about going to those things. I really could. 315 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I'd much father sit and have a small dinner party 316 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: with somebody that I super interesting. How did your work 317 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: change once you had a child? I mean, who you 318 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: are before you have a child and who you are 319 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: afterwards is completely different. My sons are just I don't 320 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: know what to do in terms of theirs. They have 321 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: all this energy. They don't go to sleep, They collapse. 322 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I mean, if I had a boy, 323 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I would have had a nervous breakdown. I always think 324 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: of you because Ava couldn't say certain letters when she 325 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: was like a baby. You know, she couldn't say ell. 326 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: You know how when they go through phases where they're 327 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: like and I remember, sure we'll called water wad and 328 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: an orange or none. And I was like, don't ever 329 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: correct her because it's so adorable. But the little boy 330 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: killing that lived across the hall, who was like, you know, 331 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: they got married at age three. He was obsessed with 332 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Thomas the tank, your show my magnum opus, Yes, your 333 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: magnum opus, and he couldn't say ours, so he would 334 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: always say do you want to play with pussy instead 335 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: of Percy? And she had a big pink clock and 336 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: she was like, do you want to play with my 337 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: big pink cock? And I was like, this is the 338 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: most horrifying soundtrack I find. Okay, I'm not the Queen 339 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: of boundaries anyway. I think Ava was seven when she 340 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: came home and said, we learned a new word today. 341 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. And I go, well, 342 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: how do you spell it? And oh, like, yes, you've 343 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: never heard it at this house. So I think one 344 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: being a single parent, I overcompensate because you know, she's 345 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: with me the most of the I mean, she has 346 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: a lovely father, but she's with me most of the time. 347 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: I've always said to where I go, if we do 348 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: all the yeses, they're far fewer knows, like, if you 349 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: do everything you're supposed to do, I will say no, 350 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: probably much less than the average parent. How are you 351 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: with your daughter about media? We were great until we 352 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: went to Australia and I did the Melbourne Comedy Festival 353 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: and then I was like, she's going to get something 354 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: electronic to, you know, so that she can be distracted. 355 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I regret it terribly, I really do, because I think 356 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that we're all so addicted to it, you know. I mean, 357 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I lost my iPhone recently and they were three of 358 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the happiest days of my life. You know. It's nice 359 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: to be disconnected in the summer, no electronics until six 360 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: and we're all together, like my sisters and all the 361 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: we are all together as a family. So I like 362 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: that now, you do, Sabrina, Yes, and when I'm want 363 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: to talk about that in a little detail about what 364 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: that experience was like, because that's a classic TV show, 365 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's all I ever 366 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: wanted to do was be on a sitcom, That's all 367 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I mean. I have this thought that many people have, 368 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: which is that you know, these things are now on forever, 369 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, I know, if you're one of the stars 370 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: of Friends or Seinfeld, it's like that's going to just 371 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: follow you around forever. Sabrina has been on television every 372 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: day somewhere since the two thousand and then. Amazing. Yeah, 373 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: And what was that experience like for you? Did you 374 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: love it from the beginning. It's so funny. I have 375 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: this horrible, horrible boyfriend and we went to Hawaii. This 376 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: is pre cell phones or whatever. It's the old, like 377 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: ever your pictures developed, And I said it and we 378 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: broke up before the pictures were developed. And I was 379 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: like so devastated by this. And I was sitting in 380 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: the Upper West Side and I got this phone call 381 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: from Neil Scovell, who created Sabrina, and she said, are 382 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: you sure you won't reconsider the part? And I'm like, now, 383 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. My managers 384 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: had never forwarded it to me. Weeks before, well, they'd 385 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: never forwarded it to me. They'd passed on it. I 386 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: knew nothing about it. And she said, will you please 387 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: you know we're casting this week. I'm going to send 388 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: you the script. And it was so long ago that 389 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: she sent it, and it was printed on like it 390 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: looked like it came on a scroll from like Yeo's exactly, 391 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: because so I went across the street all the curled papers. 392 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: I read the script immediately, I'm like, oh my god, 393 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: I absolutely want to do this. I want to be Zelda, 394 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: which was not who I was. And she said we're 395 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: really thinking of view is Hilda And I said, well, 396 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: tell me about the character and she said she traps 397 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: a man in her ring for not loving her. And 398 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I literally said, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do the 399 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: part because I had heartbroken. Yeah, I was like, I 400 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: just was like, I want this guy trapped in a ring. 401 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: That's literally what I said. And then I flew out, 402 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: and you know you. I did the first test and 403 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: then I went to producers and then they sent me 404 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: to the network and I had just done a pilot 405 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: that for some reason, it's just for that network. Now. 406 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: For see, I'd done a pilot that didn't get picked up. 407 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: It was called Daisy's Mom, about being a single mother 408 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: to a girl. And I was like, everything in my 409 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: life I always came it always came true in some 410 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: element was something I was playing. It was weird. And 411 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: then I went to network and I was like, you 412 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: know what, this show is going to be on the 413 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: air forever. I don't want to do this. I don't 414 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: think I can do this. So I left my network 415 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: test and they were so bad. Yeah, I left it. 416 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not signing. That's the quickest way to 417 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: get hired. By the way, it's exactly what you show. 418 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Go to hell. I just had this panic and I 419 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: don't know what I was thinking, and I flew home 420 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: and then they immediately called me and said, you don't 421 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: have to test. You can have the part. You know, 422 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: you just can you let us know and then you 423 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: could just have to fly out and do like a 424 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: chemistry tester with whoever's going to play your sister, but 425 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: please come. And I was such an idiot. I was like, 426 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: now an I want to And then I remember my 427 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: mother called me and said, good lord, that's not like 428 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: they've asked you to be a bricklayer. Don't be such 429 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: an idiot. You're appointing me exactly. She disappointed her. So 430 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: then so then I took the job. And then of 431 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: course I went to the psychic and he said, the 432 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: show that you're starting in September will be on the 433 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: air for seven years, which it was. I stand on 434 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: it for six, but it was it was there for seven. 435 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: It was the greatest thing that's probably ever happened to 436 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: me in many ways because and this is really hooking, 437 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: but it was like, what a gift to be able 438 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: to entertain kids, right, and like in an adult show 439 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: that was the loyal audience, powered by women about powerful women. 440 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: The only objective my character ever had was she was 441 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: six hundred years old and she had a playmate. And 442 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: the only thing I ever thought and ever scene is 443 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: you love this kid. You just love her and you 444 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: have someone to like, play with and be silly with. 445 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Caroline Ray. If you enjoy conversations with hilarious women, check 446 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: out my episode with Paula Powell. I used to write 447 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: a sketch called six Degrees Celsius and it was like 448 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: a boy group and Will Farrell was their manager. They 449 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: had tinted glasses of course, you know. It was Jimmy 450 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: Fallon and Chris Katan and Chris Parnell and they were 451 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: a boy group. And then we'd have the host in it. Well, 452 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: that week in Sync was there. We asked and Sync 453 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: to be another boy group in this competition on the show, 454 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: playing a fake boy group, And so I wrote a 455 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: song called hold the Pickle and they were like McDonald's employees, 456 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: and so in Sync came out with like McDonald's outfits 457 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: on and saying hold the pit gull and they're so 458 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: they were so crazy talented, like they got there and 459 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: looked at it for ten minutes and had full harmonies 460 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: and full choreography. I mean, they threw that shit together. 461 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: I was just amazed to hear more of my conversation 462 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: with Paula pelle Go to Here's the Thing dot Org. 463 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: After the break, Carol Line Ray shares the gifts that 464 00:21:50,040 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: working on Sabrina the Teenage which has brought into her life. 465 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not like Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the Thing. 466 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: When Caroline Ray was hired on Sabrina the Teenage, which 467 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: she had already done years of stand up, I wanted 468 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: to know if her comedic background brought about any improvisation 469 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: on set that was not a big improvised show. They 470 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: were pretty, they were they were very nice about But 471 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: I had done a lot of pilots, and I had 472 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: done I had done a series that had lasted six 473 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: episodes and was canceled with a nineteen share. So now 474 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm actually writing a pilot because I 475 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: want to be able to write my voice, which I 476 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's fun. I like acting. I like playing 477 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: a character, but I think I want to do that too. 478 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Four camera, yeah, four camera, yeah, you're gonna be on it. 479 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: I haven't told you yet, but I'll play Carlton the doormat. Yeah. Now, 480 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: but you are you really working on this right now? Yes? 481 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: I am. Did I answer the question about Sabrina. I 482 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if I did. It followed Sabrina yet 483 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: everywhere I've been called a witch in every country. Yeah, 484 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing. But you know what, I've also been able 485 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: to walk into the wall to read and see soldiers. 486 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: I've been able to go into children's hospitals. I've been 487 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: able to be sort of you know, it's in its 488 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: fourth generation of like little girls who come up and 489 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: hug me. You know, it's nice to be on something 490 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: that was sort of a good like you can watch 491 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: that show. And I've watched so much children's television now 492 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: because of my daughter. I didn't watch an episode of 493 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Sabrina until Ava was seven. Wow, and then we watched 494 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: an episode every night. But I remember, and I'm sure 495 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: you've had this experience. I remember when I had done 496 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: a Sesame Street video and Ava saw me on television 497 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: and then she asked me one day, she goes, Mummy, 498 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: are you the same mummy as you are as that 499 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: person on television is that person on television also my mummy. 500 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I was like, it's a very confusing way to put that, 501 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, all forms of me and any any image 502 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: of me is still your mummy. Talk to me about astrology. 503 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Why did you become interested in an astrology? I don't know. 504 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: I think it's because always look, I grew up with 505 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: a very open minded family who we had a ghost 506 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: in our house and it wasn't scary. It was just 507 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: sort of accepted, and we were big believers in the unseen. 508 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: And I think it's just anything that's like a further 509 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: understanding of what it's just like breaking down a character 510 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: in a play, right, like who they are. You're an aries, 511 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: You're full aries. You're such aries energy. You know what 512 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: the condition of the aries is, don't you? How lonely 513 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: it is? Being right all the time. Really, that's pretty capricorn. 514 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: That's my wife. That's my wife. I should have brought 515 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: you my cards, did I know? I've sent them to you. 516 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: The original one for arias I had to put for Queries, 517 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: which was dear Aries, your compliment hurt my feelings were. 518 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: So if you're talking to another areas, you don't get 519 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: hurt feelings because you know exactly what you're saying, but 520 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, we've heard a lot of people's feelings 521 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: done intentionally. Let's get to the point. Yeah, what's the point? 522 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: Fast forward? Blah blah blah, what are you trying to 523 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: say saying? I'll say to exactly I will say to 524 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: my sister, and I'll see to numerous people in my 525 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: family has this and today's Saint Patrick's say they've got 526 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: this Irish disease. Where I'll talk to him and I'll go, oh, 527 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: I heard that Jerry's daughter was in a car accident. 528 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: They'll go, well, you know Jerry. Now I remember that 529 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: time with Jerry, and we got to loop around oh yeah, 530 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: like six spins around the track before we finally get 531 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: to the point. And I will just talk to my 532 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: family and go, wait, wait, wait, wait, what happened to 533 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: Jerry's daughter. That's how this began. And then and they 534 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: never get to the point. I have a really funny 535 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: memory with you two before we were friends. So it 536 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety six and I was sitting happily in 537 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: first class in my first class seat, I fell asleep 538 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and I thought we had arrived in LA And They're 539 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: like We're sorry for the Serira delay, but this plane 540 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: is broken. You know, we'll get you on another plane soon. 541 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: And we ended up getting I had to take a 542 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: flight that I had to fly coach. That day. I 543 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: had gone to look at an apartment with my sister 544 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: in New York and the girl who answered the door said, 545 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: you know you're intelligent. That's weird. This is Ted Danson's 546 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: old apartment. I go, that's weird, and she goes and 547 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: I was the original Maryland on the Munsters. No, yeah, 548 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: this woman blonde, she was married, Yeah, she was, so 549 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: that that happened. And then I go to the airport 550 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting next to Georgia Engel from marriage other Moore. Yes, 551 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting next to her, and that was like 552 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: another throwback, right, And then I finally get on the 553 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: plane and I walk by and in my seat from 554 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: the previous flight is now a very heavily bearded Alec 555 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Baldwin in my exact seat, who I did not know. 556 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so annoying that you're in 557 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: my seat. And I'm not not that it was you, 558 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: just that I was I was like in thirty seven. Eh. 559 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: And then when we Land. Aaron Murphy comes up to 560 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: me and says, Hi, We're kind of related. And I said, 561 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: how so? And she said, I was Tabitha on Bewitch. 562 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: This is all in the same day. And then she said, 563 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: and this is my friend. He was Ernie on My 564 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Three Sons. I'm like, when did this plane leave? This 565 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: is like the longest delay. Right behind her was Greg 566 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Evigan from BJ and the Bear. I mean that was 567 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: the celebrity that was the TV celebrity flight. Yeah. I 568 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: just watched a movie with Greg Evigan's daughter in it. No, Yeah, 569 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: she's beautiful. She looks exactly Greg Egan. Yeah, very handsome 570 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: leading man Gregory Harrison, who had a great career in TV. 571 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: He was the one that said the thing that really 572 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of changed my acting career in a way. He said, 573 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I walked into the audition and I stopped pretending like 574 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: I was doing them a favor. He said, you called 575 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: me here. I'm here for a reason. I'm like, oh God, 576 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and like being so needy. He said, 577 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: you want something I have. Now I want something you have, 578 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: which is the power to cast people in a show. 579 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: But I got something you you want as well. And 580 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: once I stopped asking, like they were doing me a 581 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: favor and were that I had something of value as well. 582 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: And I walked into and I was like a grown man, going, 583 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: what what do you want me to play? What? What 584 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: do you want me to do? Right? And and that 585 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: that imbued him with a kind of a confidence. I 586 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: always tell these young comics, I'm like, just remember that 587 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: manager and that agent work for you, right. You don't 588 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: have to please them. You're not like afraid of the 589 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: they are making money off your talent. Your talent, you're 590 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: very kindly said that I had a command on stage. 591 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: And I read a review that Malcolm Gladwell had written 592 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: about a book, and he said she wrote in a 593 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: manner in which she was saying, don't you dare take 594 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: your eyes off this page? And I remember reading that 595 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: and it gave me, you know, like, even though I've 596 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: done this for so long, you're always learning something new. 597 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: And I have this thing in my head now where 598 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't you dare take your eyes off me? 599 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Don't you dare? I have something to share with you, 600 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: and it's really important that I get this message across. 601 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: And I too think that now when I'm on stage 602 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: comedian and actor Caroline Ray. If you're enjoying this conversation, 603 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: tell a friend and be sure to follow Here's the 604 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Spotify, or wherever you get 605 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: your podcasts. When we come back, Caroline shares the one 606 00:28:50,760 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: time she completely bombed on stage. I'm Alec Baldwin and 607 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: you're listening to Here's the Thing. After three decades in 608 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: movies and television, Caroline Ray is a back performing stand 609 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: up in front of live audiences across the country. I 610 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: wanted to know why the comedy club stage remains such 611 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: a magnetic draw for her. I think one of the 612 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: things that to me still so exciting about comedy is like, 613 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: I remember when I first moved to New York, I thought, 614 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where my gift is from. I don't 615 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: know what this is. It's not tangible. It's not like 616 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: I memorized actuarial tables and I can go be an accountant. 617 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where this is. It's something that comes 618 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: from a place that I don't you know, I can't 619 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: see it. And then the longer I've done it, the 620 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: more is like you are going to trust that your 621 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: gift is there and you're sort of channeling it like 622 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: wherever it's coming from. I think it's funny that your 623 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: mother was an obstetrician, your father was a guy in college. 624 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: That's funny is the magazines that came to your house, 625 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: of professional periodicals that came to your house were probably 626 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: just unsettling. My father had I had a pen in 627 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: the second grade that was for the pill, and it 628 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: was like a little pill that went up and down. 629 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I had no we had all those things. We had 630 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: like Gina lotraman, notepads, no idea what they were. The 631 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: most hilarious is that when because my dad was also 632 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: medical director at Planned Parenthood, and my slutty friends in 633 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: college would call up and say, can you ask your 634 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: father if you can get herpies from giving a blowjob? 635 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: But don't don't say it's for me. Says for you, 636 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I dance for me. I mean the 637 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: seventh time I asked, my father's like, good God, what 638 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: are you doing at that school? Exactly? Now? When did 639 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: you first sense that things had changed and this cancel 640 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: culture thing was coming and people started to change their 641 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: acts and the contents of their Did you become aware 642 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: of that at a certain point. I think when Louie 643 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: sort of got canceled overnight, right, and it was very 644 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: conflicting because he's such an old friend of mine, right, 645 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: and about getting into details. When you see someone being canceled, yeah, well, 646 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: but but why they're canceled. I mean, there's people who 647 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: get canceled and I don't get it. Yeah, Now, Louis, 648 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: when you understand what happened, you ask yourself, well, does 649 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: he deserve it to be canceled? I mean, when you 650 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: do that, well, it was very wrong what he did. 651 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. People make mistakes all the time. I 652 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: don't think their lives should be judged one one event 653 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: that they've made a terrible choice in. I don't. I mean, 654 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: but when that happened, that's when you saw it like 655 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: a turning point. Yeah, and then I thought, and then 656 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I was very conscious of you know, you do have 657 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: to be respectful of where society is going. You have 658 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: to be able to honor what people think and say 659 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: without you know, losing your own individual take on things. 660 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: What's the worst experience you ever had on stage? I'll 661 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: tell you right now. It was when I had to 662 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: perform at a wedding. I was dressed as a bridesmaid 663 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: and they weren't expecting me at their request, and yeah, 664 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: it was the worst experience. All of the saliva left 665 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: my body and it was just me horrible. And then 666 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: when the woman paid, man, I thought she was giving 667 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: me a paper cup with the chick it was and 668 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: it was like the first five hundred dollars I'd ever made. 669 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: And I was just, Oh, nobody's bombing at a wedding 670 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: where they're not expecting you, and they just oh, oh, 671 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: I still I'm having a flashback. Horrible, horrible, horrible. What 672 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: are among your favorite cities to perform? And what's a 673 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: city where you just almost invert? And I'm on my 674 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: way there because I'm gonna film a special there in May. 675 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: What's a special? I can't say, I can't say. What 676 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: do you think of this as a title. I'm trying 677 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: not to hate man. I think that's just gonna make 678 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: every man hate you even more. I just I seriously 679 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: don't understand, man, and I'd like to They won't hate you, 680 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: but they're gonna go clicks. We used to say, turn 681 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: the dial. I think men listen to these comics and 682 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: they'd be like, you know, what would the world be 683 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: like if there were no men? We don't need man. No, 684 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. You've always been hypersensitive about 685 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: being a man. I've noticed that you are. You're always like, 686 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: so hard, I'm not going to take all I remember. 687 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not going to have somebody else's bad 688 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: experience projected onto me, and like, oh, yes you are, 689 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: because you're a very handsome movie star. Well, I think 690 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: that's the you know, for men, they're always like, why 691 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: do you understand women? Do I understand women? Yeah? I 692 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: think I do in terms of you're very loving and 693 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: kind with your wife. Well, if I'm not as hell 694 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: to pay, my kids will look at me and go, 695 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: don't you talk to mommy that way? I love that. 696 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, when did my kids become my wife's legal team? 697 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm like her lawyer. God, that's mom. But what is 698 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: the difference you think between the relationship between mother and father? 699 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: Just innately, like from birth on? How do you think 700 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: it differ from what I consider a great line my 701 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: dad gave me. He goes parent He says, parented it 702 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: as a competition between two people where the father always wins. 703 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: The bronze medal. Oh my god, Yeah, the mother was 704 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: the gold and the silver. You come in third in 705 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: a competition between two people, you're a third. But when 706 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: then in Canada, when we grew up in the Olympics, 707 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: we thought brons was the highest you could right, But 708 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: let me just stop with this. I want to say 709 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: I love you whenever I hear from you, whenever I 710 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: talk to that energy of yours that's made everybody love you. 711 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Everybody loves you, everybody loves you. What's your wrap up? 712 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: That I love you and that you're a great man, 713 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: and that everything's going to be okay, and you're a 714 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: great dad and you make the world a better place. 715 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: My thanks to my dear friend Caroline Ray. This episode 716 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: was recorded at CDM Studios in New York City. We're 717 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: produced by Kathleen Russo, Zach McNeice, and Maureen hoban Ow. 718 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Our engineer is Frank Imperial. Our social media manager is 719 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Danielle Gingwich. I'm Alec Baldwin. Here's the thing is brought 720 00:34:43,120 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: to you by iHeart Radio.