Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: I think Kristen is going to be joining us via zoom,
Speaker 2: but it might.
Speaker 3: Just be you and me.
Speaker 2: Kat.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go.
Speaker 3: So we don't have a guest today.
Speaker 2: We just have a few host chat ideas and pop culture,
Speaker 2: so we can just go from there. But little life update, Cat,
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm just you know, I don't know. Just
Speaker 1: in the full swing of all the madness kid stuff.
Speaker 1: End of the school year.
Speaker 3: You just celebrate an anniversary.
Speaker 1: I did seventeen years, which is crazy. That makes me
Speaker 1: feel so old. It does seem, yeah, like it was
Speaker 1: like wow, yeah, I mean I was a baby when
Speaker 1: I got married, but still like that's a long time.
Speaker 3: It's a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did nothing for our anniversary, so that's exciting.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really shock me though, because a lot of
Speaker 2: the anniversary, like you spent your one anniversary with.
Speaker 1: I spent too around that time with you. I think
Speaker 1: the first year, something was going on on the anniversary
Speaker 1: and so I had to stayed or something. And then
Speaker 1: the next year you filed on my anniversary, so I
Speaker 1: had to stay there that night. It's okay, it's like
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, now, so what's up with you?
Speaker 2: You know, when I hear the baby cry just really
Speaker 2: just gets my gets my heart just like you know,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to nap, you know, go to sleep baby.
Speaker 2: So there's some life updates that said you got your dress?
Speaker 3: What is next? Have you sent out invites?
Speaker 2: So we got the dress in New York, the wedding dress,
Speaker 2: but we're working on getting because it says Kat and Kat,
Speaker 2: do you have your maid of honor dresses yet?
Speaker 1: Working on that.
Speaker 4: It's hard to find a dress well because you're kind
Speaker 4: of like whatever, which is awesome, but like I also
Speaker 4: am terrible at this, so it's hard.
Speaker 2: Well I think it's hard to because yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, whatever, but also it has to still
Speaker 2: kind of look uniform too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure, and I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: And I'm not the best with that. Usually.
Speaker 2: It's what I've been used to is everybody matches right, right,
Speaker 2: and so when it's not, which is I'm fine, Like
Speaker 2: I genuinely don't care. It's just at that kind of
Speaker 2: I have that like older school, but I just would
Speaker 2: think that everyone looks the same or same dress, but
Speaker 2: I also know not everyone would feel good in the
Speaker 2: same dress. Yeah, and I don't care, right, And I
Speaker 2: truly don't care. So I'm like, yeah, where wouldever you want?
Speaker 2: But then you know, Kbie comes in, It's like, well,
Speaker 2: if one's were in this and if sleeven, you gotta
Speaker 2: wear that. And I'm just like, you girls figure it
Speaker 2: out because I don't.
Speaker 1: Think for her because I don't know, and she's like,
Speaker 1: am I A this week? So I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to need you to tell me if these options are
Speaker 1: good or bad because she's the fashion girl of the group.
Speaker 1: But but we're working on it. We've narrowed some things down.
Speaker 2: There is how big will the wedding be? So it's
Speaker 2: going to be very small, like super super super duper small.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm really doing the wedding for Jolie
Speaker 2: in a sense.
Speaker 1: Hmm, she is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she would get it, Like if
Speaker 2: we didn't have a wedding, she'd be like, are you
Speaker 2: guys not married?
Speaker 3: Easily.
Speaker 2: I don't think she'd understand the marriage thing because she's like,
Speaker 2: you get you have a wedding and then you're married,
Speaker 2: so to watch the whole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's a good point. I haven't thought about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I really because we've had many conversations about it.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, well, I think because that's her
Speaker 2: big thing, Like when we got engaged, she's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: the wedding, I'm so excited. And in my mind, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm fine just going down to the courthouse too, Like
Speaker 2: I would be fine with that as well. But she
Speaker 2: was very much of like, but then you wouldn't be married.
Speaker 2: So it's like I think, in her, I in her
Speaker 2: sweet little brain, it's you have to have the a
Speaker 2: wedding and that's sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really want that for her.
Speaker 2: I just picked out her little bridesmaids and let bridesmaids
Speaker 2: her little flower girl dress. So I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see them and so cute. Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you don't have to answer this because I
Speaker 1: don't know. But I don't know the answer to this.
Speaker 1: Will Roman be like in the wedding.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how he I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: he'll obviously be in all the photos and with us
Speaker 2: there and everything, but he can't walk or there's no like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can really like cart him
Speaker 2: down in a wagon if he would. The kid ain't
Speaker 2: moving like, he's not rolling over, and he's not sitting
Speaker 2: like he's he's got a couple.
Speaker 3: On him.
Speaker 2: Then he can't. He can't sit up by himself. So
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he'll be able to do then.
Speaker 2: I mean he should be, but he also should be
Speaker 2: rolling right now and eat close and that's okay. That's
Speaker 2: like he lays there like a brick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally talked to my sister in law about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: She asked how he was doing and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she can't he doing this? No, Debbie, who does my hair?
Speaker 1: And I was like, He's like, is he doing this?
Speaker 1: You're doing that? I was like, no, he's not. And
Speaker 1: she's like, I mean, do you remember Peyton because like
Speaker 1: our kids were so big, like they didn't do those
Speaker 1: things till waigh late to because they had extra wait.
Speaker 2: Well, the doctor was saying, hey, kb hi. So the
Speaker 2: doctor was saying when we won the last time, because
Speaker 2: he knew the old check marks or whatever, and she's like,
Speaker 2: all right, bye, you know the five months they should
Speaker 2: be rolling over so and I'm like, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: he ain't going anywhere, Like he's just he's just staying there.
Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, well by six weeks, like he should,
Speaker 2: I mean six hours, six months, he should absolutely, you know,
Speaker 2: then will need to figure something out. It's his six
Speaker 2: months is two weeks away. So I'm like, I am,
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, buddy, it's roll time. Like let's
Speaker 2: like let's get it rolling. But I don't know like
Speaker 2: what she means by we'll have to figure like like
Speaker 2: what like I'm doing everything possible and she's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, like third baby, you're probably holding him a
Speaker 2: lot like no, No, I am like have him on
Speaker 2: the ground. I'm like putting him on the side, trying
Speaker 2: to put his little leg over to be like all right,
Speaker 2: roll buddy, but his weight just pulls him right back
Speaker 2: onto his back.
Speaker 1: Well and he naps in his crib, not swaddled right.
Speaker 3: No, he's not swattled. Well, I have the Merlin suit.
Speaker 1: Hard to to flip, but.
Speaker 3: I have him on his back all the time.
Speaker 1: He's always in that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but KB, when did h I said Tiger? Sorry?
Speaker 3: When when Dido when sorry? And I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: laugh about it.
Speaker 5: I was just I was like I was gonna say
Speaker 5: this first of all, on behalf of my I think
Speaker 5: he's doing his very best to roll himself over. He's
Speaker 5: really working hard. I think so lying girl rolled over fast.
Speaker 5: But Legend was literally a full hearted meatball. We used
Speaker 5: to call it how to Dress the Meatball was the series.
Speaker 5: He was so thick that everything was delayed. So I
Speaker 5: think he's the best to compare it to.
Speaker 3: And he was a little later, like six months late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, My niece literally was like eight or nine months
Speaker 1: old when she rolled over, So don't freak out about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they going to do?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, is there like baby pet or like.
Speaker 1: And maybe they want to check and make sure like
Speaker 1: muscles are okay and like all that stuff. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, when you have that added weight, like, it's.
Speaker 3: Hard to do the size have thighs.
Speaker 1: That's ow kay. It was all of mine were actually.
Speaker 2: Like, it's fine, it's so cute and I love him
Speaker 2: to death.
Speaker 3: He's just such a fun baby.
Speaker 2: But I got him a kilt for the wedding, but
Speaker 2: I don't think the kill fits him anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably not.
Speaker 2: No, I just wasn't because he was such a tiny baby.
Speaker 2: He was, so I kind of based off yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but that thing is not I know, I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try too. But we did pick out, yeah, the
Speaker 2: outfits for them, and they're just gonna be It's just
Speaker 2: it's so cute.
Speaker 1: So ill I was to say he probably won't be
Speaker 1: in the wedding because it would be hard to like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd probably eat the ring. Right.
Speaker 5: How did Alan do with you filming a movie, a
Speaker 5: romantic movie. This is your first movie together, it's your
Speaker 5: first movie since you and Alan have been together.
Speaker 2: Correct, No, the movie in Arizona was like that member, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 5: Like oh that's right, Okay, that was.
Speaker 2: Love we had like the first sexy for a lifetime
Speaker 2: Christmas movie. This was way different this movie. I mean
Speaker 2: this movie, Austin was trying to kill me. So there
Speaker 2: was a lovey dovey like anything did he do?
Speaker 5: Okay? Like it was? Was it good with Alan? Like?
Speaker 2: Was he?
Speaker 5: I mean that's also I guess that's another that's I
Speaker 5: suppose that is another like protective thing that would come
Speaker 5: out too. So even if it isn't like the sexy stuff,
Speaker 5: then it's like you're filming a movie where you're like
Speaker 5: put in this position. Does Alan's protective Scotland side come
Speaker 5: out in this at all? During filming?
Speaker 2: You know, he is a very listen. We all know
Speaker 2: he's very old school, right, Like he's very put he's
Speaker 2: very protective. He loves me like so much, and he's
Speaker 2: just in the kind of mind frame you know, he's
Speaker 2: he doesn't love another male being around me all day,
Speaker 2: every day for fourteen plus hours. Like he's like, that's
Speaker 2: never going to make me feel good, whether you I
Speaker 2: like the person or I don't. He's like, it's just
Speaker 2: my male, My love for you, my protection over you,
Speaker 2: is always going to not love the fact that you're
Speaker 2: around someone that much during the day.
Speaker 5: Right, That's how Preston would be. That's why I ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is not jealous.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 2: He's here's the difference. Like my ex was never jealous,
Speaker 2: and I was always like, well that kind of stinks,
Speaker 2: you know, because he would not care if I was
Speaker 2: being flirty, maybe in Instagram videos or not. I'm saying flirt,
Speaker 2: but you know, just like being free and fun and whatever.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't care. And I look back sometimes and I'm like,
Speaker 2: was I trying to be that way to then get
Speaker 2: attention to want him to be jealous because I want
Speaker 2: him to want me and not the other women. So
Speaker 2: I think maybe there was a subconscious layer where I
Speaker 2: would maybe do that to try to get his attention,
Speaker 2: but I never got his attention. He would just say
Speaker 2: he didn't care. But then also I realized he wanted
Speaker 2: me to even the score, which is something he said
Speaker 2: when we got divorced. He's like, I wish you would
Speaker 2: have cheated so that I wouldn't have been the only one.
Speaker 3: And I was like, and that's.
Speaker 2: Why I never would because I don't want you to
Speaker 2: have that over me exactly. Even though yeah, but so
Speaker 2: with and I brought that to therapy one time because
Speaker 2: when we were I was still married to him because
Speaker 2: I'm like, I told Amy that, I was like, it
Speaker 2: kind of bums me out that he doesn't care at
Speaker 2: all or it doesn't seem jealous. And it's not that
Speaker 2: I want jealous, because I've been with those jealous guys
Speaker 2: and it's not fun, you know, But with him, it
Speaker 2: was nothing. And she's like, there's it's a thing called
Speaker 2: healthy jealousy. And I think that's what Alan has. It's
Speaker 2: what I have with him, it's just healthy jealousy.
Speaker 3: Sure what, I.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't love him being all day with a female. You know,
Speaker 2: he was coaching a women's team. I actually had zero
Speaker 2: jealousy around that, but you know, if it was maybe
Speaker 2: one on one, I don't know, I'd probably have healthy
Speaker 2: jealousy around it. But I wouldn't have been psycho or
Speaker 2: controlling like I was in the past. So with him,
Speaker 2: he's so respectful, like he was amazing with Austin. He
Speaker 2: also knows my history with Austin where you know Austin
Speaker 2: and I we were roommates together in One Tree Hill.
Speaker 2: We have been friends you know, post show as well,
Speaker 2: and I respect Austin a lot like Austin, And we
Speaker 2: were just talking about this when we wrapped, like he
Speaker 2: is my favorite scene study partner ever, Like how amazing
Speaker 2: he is as an actor, and how giving he is
Speaker 2: in a scene and how present we both are together.
Speaker 2: Because again, like we talked about it when we wrapped,
Speaker 2: He's like, we have something that's so great together on
Speaker 2: screen that you don't get with a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and I've never had that with any other person. Like
Speaker 2: we just are so in it together that we forget
Speaker 2: that we're almost like acting. And so you know, he
Speaker 2: met I know, I'm always making sure too, Like before
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right here, like I want you to
Speaker 2: meet Alan, and so I just I want Alan to
Speaker 2: feel so comfortable and safe. So I always make sure
Speaker 2: to do you know, a good job with that. And
Speaker 2: I'm a different person now with Alan, so like my
Speaker 2: boundaries are very different on set now, how I interact,
Speaker 2: how I you know, how I would have in the past,
Speaker 2: I don't do now, Like I'm just way more respectful
Speaker 2: to my situation and to other situations.
Speaker 3: So but I like it.
Speaker 2: He still doesn't love it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like he's not gonna love the idea. Like if we
Speaker 2: were watching something the other day where there was like
Speaker 2: a heavy simulated scene, He's like, I would not like that,
Speaker 2: and I was like I wouldn't either, you know. And
Speaker 2: it's also not like that when you're filming, like when
Speaker 2: we do do kissing scenes, like when Austin and I
Speaker 2: did have a kiss, it's not like there's people staring
Speaker 2: at you. It's not there isn't a connection. The problem
Speaker 2: and I will always say, this is the connection that
Speaker 2: you have off screen with the person. So it's whether
Speaker 2: you spend time with them, you know, in the trailer
Speaker 2: or running lines, like that's the stuff that gets shady
Speaker 2: and not good, Like you have to have really good
Speaker 2: boundaries off screen. That's when people get messed up in
Speaker 2: movies and stuff. It's never truly the on screen because
Speaker 2: there's so many people watching. It isn't like there's no emotions.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I just like I love his his
Speaker 2: balance because I do. I feel protected, I feel safe,
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like he cares, but he's not
Speaker 2: controlling or psycho like other people that I've been with
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think, honestly, like I think it is
Speaker 5: so special. Well, I think what you do is special.
Speaker 5: I've always admired like the actress part of you, but
Speaker 5: also just I think it is would be red flaggy
Speaker 5: to me if he was like cool, go make out
Speaker 5: with that dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I think it's like incredible that he cares enough.
Speaker 5: But I always do wonder because Alan is he's just
Speaker 5: such a different guy for you. He's different than anyone
Speaker 5: you've ever dated or been with. And it was I
Speaker 5: remember the minute I thought it the first time, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I really like this guy because he
Speaker 5: isn't going to give you like he's he held the line,
Speaker 5: which was really interesting to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he held the line.
Speaker 2: But also because he respects me, I respect him, right,
Speaker 2: And that's the difference. I didn't respect Mike because he
Speaker 2: didn't respect me. So that was like then how I
Speaker 2: acted reflected how he acted reflected. So with this situation
Speaker 2: is like, he respects me so much, I'm going to
Speaker 2: respect him as well. And the relationship.
Speaker 5: But that's the first time I had seen that out
Speaker 5: of you with a person you had been with, and
Speaker 5: that's what I loved the most.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Preston wouldn't be a fan.
Speaker 5: Oh there's a zero percent chance I'd be on set
Speaker 5: with somebody.
Speaker 2: But yet it's okay for him to be on music
Speaker 2: videos with listens and every night with girls throwing their
Speaker 2: bras on stage to them listen.
Speaker 5: The younger that front row gets, the better for downloads.
Speaker 5: I will say that. Yeah, it is a really interesting thing.
Speaker 5: Like even like we've had this talk before, right, because
Speaker 5: our industry is a hot mess a lot of times
Speaker 5: in marriage, and I think for we have dealt with
Speaker 5: our own stuff in our own marriage just because it
Speaker 5: is wild, Like he's away from me two hundred nights
Speaker 5: a year. That's a lot, and it gets lonely on
Speaker 5: both sides. Even if lonely looks different, it gets lonely,
Speaker 5: you know. But we have talked about that too, because
Speaker 5: I was like, you don't even know how like blessed
Speaker 5: you are. When I leave you, I go and sit
Speaker 5: with like Jana and kat if I go do anything
Speaker 5: for work and air quotes, which I don't consider what
Speaker 5: we do work. It's like so much fun out there.
Speaker 5: But like if we do wind down on the road,
Speaker 5: I'm like our demographic like ninety nine percent women with
Speaker 5: their girlfriends or somebody brought their husband, Like you don't
Speaker 5: You'll never know.
Speaker 1: There's literally no single man really at these besides Osama.
Speaker 2: We love it, that's true, and they're amazing, but Ryan
Speaker 2: Osama Matt, yeah, sweet.
Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting about that, KB though, don't
Speaker 1: you feel like Janna being kind of the preston of
Speaker 1: the group in your relationship that you've always been kind
Speaker 1: of the more jealous one. Maybe not this time around,
Speaker 1: but like, for instance, you go do movies and you're
Speaker 1: rolling around with men, but if you were any man
Speaker 1: that you were with at the time was doing the same.
Speaker 2: If he was so here's here's the difference to that
Speaker 2: if he was an actor. Zero jealousy, like for real, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's not like again, you have to like like
Speaker 2: I don't care when I was dating that one actor
Speaker 2: at all. It does it because it interesting. I know,
Speaker 2: it's nothing. It's again all how they.
Speaker 1: Know the boundaries outside of it. Yeah, and you have
Speaker 1: to be like to beuper careful. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's a part of you that would
Speaker 1: be a little bit more jealous as same as Preston.
Speaker 2: I mean I thought i'd be jealous when he was
Speaker 2: coaching all like thirty freaking soccer girls, and I wasn't
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: I was like, go have fun.
Speaker 1: I mean even last night when we were talking and
Speaker 1: you mentioned something about him doing something, You're like, great,
Speaker 1: I won't be there have fun. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: but I just Jane. I would have been like I'll
Speaker 1: be there with you every second. No, but no, totally totally.
Speaker 1: But I didn't trust the person. I was like, right,
Speaker 1: of course I would be there because I would felt
Speaker 1: like I had to control it. Now I'm like yeah, bye, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm true. Go have fun for the ten days out
Speaker 1: of the month. I don't like, you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I trust him and if he did anything again I
Speaker 1: met that place too, I'm like, you're an idiot, right true,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay alone and you've messed up, but we're here.
Speaker 2: But I I don't think he ever would you know that.
Speaker 2: I trust him so much, so that's why I'm like,
Speaker 2: go go for it. I don't know the acting things like,
Speaker 2: for example, this actually pissed my ax off, which I
Speaker 2: thought was kind of funny. Well, the motorcycle THINGKI pissed
Speaker 2: my ax off, but also I.
Speaker 1: Can only imagine how much that pissed him off.
Speaker 2: He walked in the garage and goes, what the is
Speaker 2: what I was like, cat, catch your tongue. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say that, but I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: yeah what and I knew exactly what he was staring
Speaker 2: at that was and he goes, did an is this
Speaker 2: sounds bike? And I was like yeah, He's like are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? And I was like what.
Speaker 3: We all have choices that we can make. We can
Speaker 3: all make our own choices.
Speaker 2: So there was that and then the second one, which
Speaker 2: by the way, to add salt to it.
Speaker 3: He's like, you can take it up for a spec.
Speaker 2: But besides that, So the second thing was he had
Speaker 2: come to pick up Jolie had left her softball bag
Speaker 2: whatever at the house and so he came to pick
Speaker 2: it up and he's like, oh, where's Allan. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to have a drink at Bricktops. He's like
Speaker 2: by himself. I was like yeah, He's like wow, and
Speaker 2: I will say he gave me a compliment. He goes,
Speaker 2: he goes, I'm really proud of you, And I go
Speaker 2: for what and he goes, well, like I know that
Speaker 2: that must have been like hard for you to get there.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I trust him, So if he
Speaker 2: wants to go to have a drink somewhere, I trust
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be sitting there then meeting
Speaker 2: another woe, right, you know what I mean? Or like,
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I didn't and I didn't go into
Speaker 2: all that, but I'm like, I trust him, so I
Speaker 2: have no problem with it, Like, and that's where situations
Speaker 2: like that, I'm like, oh yeah, no, Like I genuinely
Speaker 2: am fine. If there was ever a reason to not
Speaker 2: trust him, then I probably wouldn't be fine, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be in the relationship right.
Speaker 1: Well, you've just changed so much since.
Speaker 2: So that's why when you say that, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'd actually like I'm fine, Like I don't have any
Speaker 2: worries when he goes to Chicago. I genuinely don't like, go,
Speaker 2: yeah go. But because I used to not even let
Speaker 2: Mike when he would travel, because he would meet women
Speaker 2: when he traveled. I wouldn't let him sit at a
Speaker 2: bar in the hotel. Yeah, like I would lose my mind.
Speaker 2: Well granted he still did, and like, cheaters will always
Speaker 2: find a way, right, So that's why I'm like, it
Speaker 2: doesn't even Well.
Speaker 1: The more you tried to control control it and grasp you,
Speaker 1: there was no controlling that situation. He was always going
Speaker 1: to figure it out exactly.
Speaker 2: And so with this, I'm like, I don't I trust
Speaker 2: you because you show up and yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Are so well.
Speaker 5: This was my fear with this one because the connection
Speaker 5: here is so lousy. I'm in NAPA worse places to be,
Speaker 5: but I can hear y'all. I just have to like
Speaker 5: really super super listen because it gets really really quiet,
Speaker 5: really fast.
Speaker 1: So, hey, are you gonna have a bachelorette party, well bridesmaids, Hey, KB,
Speaker 1: are we planning a bachelorette party?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be in London.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's I think it's hosted by iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: I think they want to put out there.
Speaker 5: Can we do it on Broadway? Can I grab some matching?
Speaker 5: Can I grab some matching cowboy hats? And we can
Speaker 5: just do it on Broadway?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you were about to have abs.
Speaker 2: I think that though queendom on Broadway would be kind
Speaker 2: of fun, so fun, that actually would be fun because
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody honestly can travel.
Speaker 1: Because no one's going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Everyone has soccer, baseball, cheerleading. So my absolutely no. Just
Speaker 2: went to let's do it. Let's go get a hot
Speaker 2: tub time machine and go watch the time machine.
Speaker 5: It's what it's like, the splitsh slash the hot tubs,
Speaker 5: they go around.
Speaker 1: Okay, I draw a line at that, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll meet y'all at the bar.
Speaker 5: It doesn't see Jeremy at all. Cat, I think it's
Speaker 5: gonna be perfect.
Speaker 1: That is awful. I don't know if that's worse. They're
Speaker 1: actually peddling while I'm drinking. It all sounds awful. But okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna plan that. Thank you. iHeart that's great.
Speaker 3: Well, no, now it's not hard.
Speaker 1: Now, it's sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, question for you guys, this is interesting. It's a
Speaker 2: pop culture one for you. Oh, by the way, has
Speaker 2: anyone heard the new Taylor Swift album.
Speaker 1: I went through it a little bit.
Speaker 5: I have listened a little bit.
Speaker 3: Thoughts.
Speaker 5: Well, I would say that the reason I'm listening is
Speaker 5: to screen for love because she's a Swift tie and
Speaker 5: so it's got it's a little bit tricky. This album's
Speaker 5: a bit tricky, and she listens to her albums on vinyl,
Speaker 5: and so I'm just not sure how I can because
Speaker 5: there's certainly songs she's not going to be able to
Speaker 5: listen to.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: You know that this is like the most controversial thing
Speaker 1: to talk about, Like you start talking about Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and people are like, I angree, Well, they're very passionate
Speaker 1: about some Taylor Swift. But I also can't say anything
Speaker 1: because I took my kids to know Lavia Rodrigo week,
Speaker 1: so I'm already judging myself. That's fine. I am not
Speaker 1: a huge Taylor Swift fan, just come at me. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm just not and my kids are already kind of
Speaker 1: over her, luckily, so I don't really have to deal
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: So Jolie is not a fan, which is so interesting
Speaker 2: because I didn't know this. She was at a birthday
Speaker 2: party and she's like, Mom, is it okay that I
Speaker 2: don't like Taylor Swift? And I was like, this is
Speaker 2: so crazy because we've never had this conversation. I go, Honey,
Speaker 2: one thousand percent, you can like whoever you want. I
Speaker 2: was like, it's just because she's super famous, you know,
Speaker 2: and everyone loves her, does not mean that you have
Speaker 2: to love her too. Just you know the Beatles, It's like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to like that. Like and sometimes like
Speaker 2: I didn't like the Beatles because everyone loved the Beatles,
Speaker 2: so I always kind of go opposite. Now do I
Speaker 2: rock out? So Alan always makes fun of me. He's like,
Speaker 2: you're Sessa Taylor Swift. I was like, I do like
Speaker 2: some of her songs one hundred percent. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to deny that. I think she's an insane entertainer. Like
Speaker 2: I didn't see your concert. I wanted to, tickets were
Speaker 2: too expensive, so I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't go. I'd still love to go.
Speaker 2: I watched the movie on whatever, like she's she's she's
Speaker 2: very calculated all that. I don't love the new album.
Speaker 2: I've listened just for a couple songs. I kind of
Speaker 2: got a little bored. But you know, but again, you know,
Speaker 2: I still like respect her as an artist. The thing
Speaker 2: that so interesting to me is I do feel like
Speaker 2: she's above if this song which I get it, the
Speaker 2: thank You Amy song, which is the Kim Kardashian for me,
Speaker 2: like when I kind of look at it from like
Speaker 2: an outsider's point of view, I just think she's better
Speaker 2: than that to like come up with like it just
Speaker 2: seems so like I don't know, I just think she's better.
Speaker 2: She's better than that to like to have a dig
Speaker 2: song like you know you kind of won, But I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of all she does is
Speaker 1: dig songs. Taylor Swift, I mean, right.
Speaker 2: Well, it is a lot of you know, but I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't say anything I write. I wrote like a
Speaker 2: million cheating.
Speaker 3: Songs, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean not that she's
Speaker 1: every man. She's ever dated, well, that's true, literally, and
Speaker 1: it's they're very specific. Again, I don't listen to all
Speaker 1: her stuff, but yes, the Kim thing, I'm like, when
Speaker 1: did this happen?
Speaker 3: This was the Kanye West thing?
Speaker 1: No, I know what it was, but it was what
Speaker 1: seven years ago?
Speaker 2: It was a long time ago, but but I do
Speaker 2: believe that that took her in a tailspin and was
Speaker 2: like a I could see how Kim Kardashian is a force.
Speaker 2: She's so freaking famous, and at that time, I think
Speaker 2: she was probably more famous if yeah, and so a
Speaker 2: lot of people I think jumped on Kim's bandwagon of yeah,
Speaker 2: screw Taylor. You know she she's lying or making up
Speaker 2: the situation. So I can only imagine how that affected Taylor.
Speaker 2: But now I feel like Taylor's bigger of a star
Speaker 2: that I don't. So I look at it as like,
Speaker 2: you know what, you kind of why bring it back
Speaker 2: up again? And you've lessened your power a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's how I perceive it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And with the lyrics to the song yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes it. I always kind of felt like then in
Speaker 1: that situation, she was kind of playing the victim, and
Speaker 1: I felt that a lot with her. If I'm being
Speaker 1: honest and again I'll get attacked for this, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of felt like a victim mentality.
Speaker 3: Making a friend the victim.
Speaker 1: Oh god. But and I'm not standing up for Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian by any means. I mean, geez, but this is
Speaker 1: like just playing into that again. For me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: are we going back to being the victim of this situation?
Speaker 1: Like I understand, like you are huge, like you said, like,
Speaker 1: you're huge, and I hate that it affected her. Obviously
Speaker 1: it affected her more than anyone realized. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think it like, if it affected you, write
Speaker 2: it in a way where it's not a caddy way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is like you want to write a song about that,
Speaker 2: then yeah, then write it where it's like but this
Speaker 2: just feels like you're just you're better than that, like
Speaker 2: you're and you guys are both I don't know, now, both.
Speaker 1: Are huge like no one you know, and.
Speaker 2: I think I think bigger. And this is such a moment,
Speaker 2: like why bring that.
Speaker 1: Up again because we're all talking about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, Ei, there you are. It's true.
Speaker 2: But I like the fact that she says Kim Kardashian
Speaker 2: doesn't want to add fuel to the fire and people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, she lost one hundred thousand followers. Kim
Speaker 2: did Kim did yeah after the after the song. But
Speaker 2: I think again, if she doesn't respond Kim, I think
Speaker 2: that's again, good on her.
Speaker 3: Let it go.
Speaker 1: The last thing you want is just like a caddy
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 5: Last thing I would want to do is resurrect any
Speaker 5: beef with Kim Kardashian or anyone.
Speaker 3: What is like that?
Speaker 5: What's the point? Yeah?
Speaker 2: My thing is like I'd rather just have a solid like, Hey,
Speaker 2: this hurt sorry, or I hurt you, I'm sorry. Like
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of that behind the scenes, where
Speaker 2: I've reached out someone had been like, hey, I'm really
Speaker 2: sorry I was I was a dick to you and
Speaker 2: I apologize, or I was a bitch to you and
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think there's gonna be any apologizing in
Speaker 1: this situation.
Speaker 2: No, But it's like I would love for them to
Speaker 2: be friends. Yeah, I just want everyone to be happy.
Speaker 2: It's such a but you friend, are not a tortured poet.
Speaker 2: You're not a tortured poet. So I just don't know
Speaker 2: if that is done. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 2: same on her side. But I'm also saying all this
Speaker 2: and then was like talking about my ex just twenty
Speaker 2: minutes ago. So but it's all in relation to topics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't like you're like I have like.
Speaker 2: No, my ex and I are great, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, We have our moments, but I mean, so
Speaker 2: far we've been great.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's getting soccer balls off your roof, he's
Speaker 1: climbing on roof.
Speaker 3: But so that.
Speaker 2: But it's like when you go back to relating, and
Speaker 2: that's right when I unfortunately is the past and comes up.
Speaker 1: And that's when people were like, oh, she's not over it,
Speaker 1: she's da da dah because we will relate topics on here. Heck,
Speaker 1: I'll still relate topics to my ex boyfriend when I
Speaker 1: was nineteen, you know, like, and I can promise you
Speaker 1: I'm over that. But I just think people take that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, but I think people take
Speaker 1: when you relate things to it. But it is who
Speaker 1: how it makes you. It makes you into the person
Speaker 1: you are now. That does not mean that you're not over.
Speaker 2: It, right, but it is the capitalization of the K
Speaker 2: and the I and the M.
Speaker 1: That was like making sure everybody knew yep.
Speaker 5: It's also tricky though, because you know, Taylor is so
Speaker 5: artistic when it comes to music. I hate it because
Speaker 5: you know, we know on our side, like the music side,
Speaker 5: she wasn't. She didn't just start this project like last year.
Speaker 5: This has probably been a compilation of like things that
Speaker 5: she's written for like the last since her last album
Speaker 5: or whatever, or even before that. You know, songs always
Speaker 5: make a way, like you can you can create a
Speaker 5: song and you can leave it for forever and then
Speaker 5: you decide it fits somewhere. So I think artistically, maybe
Speaker 5: this fits for her, or it feels like you know,
Speaker 5: like I try to go. I try to just go
Speaker 5: to like the artist side of things where it's like
Speaker 5: redemptive or it feels like it fits or like to
Speaker 5: her it all of those songs meant something and they
Speaker 5: all go into a certain season, or like like when
Speaker 5: an author writes a book. So I don't I just
Speaker 5: feel like sometimes her artistic display of it, like we're like,
Speaker 5: well why would she do that? But for her, she's
Speaker 5: like if I didn't put it on here, it would
Speaker 5: be like being complete to myself or true to myself
Speaker 5: or whatever. You know, or it doesn't maybe tell the
Speaker 5: whole story if she doesn't have that song in there
Speaker 5: in her artistic brain.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1: I think this album will be interesting because I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moms who last year idol kids
Speaker 1: are obsessed blah blah, and now there's a lot of
Speaker 1: moms going wha, wha what is she saying in these songs?
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I'm one of It wasn't there before,
Speaker 1: but people are really paying attention to it now, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see because she was
Speaker 1: just such an idol for so many young kids, and
Speaker 1: now this album is bringing out this whole side of
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what are what are we listening to?
Speaker 1: And is this good for our kids? It's going to
Speaker 1: be interesting to watch.
Speaker 5: That's the tricky part for me, is like love is
Speaker 5: such a swiftie and she you know, and I also
Speaker 5: get like, you can't Taylor's not going to stay the
Speaker 5: same right She's because she's she's a woman, she has
Speaker 5: a boyfriend and all the things. But it is a
Speaker 5: little tricky. I'm not I just don't know how to
Speaker 5: quite navigate because we haven't I haven't listened to the
Speaker 5: whole album. It is hard for me to listen to
Speaker 5: to Jana's point, honestly, it's just I'm kind of my
Speaker 5: jam which is whatever.
Speaker 2: Well like folklore like that wasn't my jam either at
Speaker 2: that album. So I like them more like Speak Now
Speaker 2: Red And that's.
Speaker 1: Not like the kid's favorites albums either, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I don't even know if they would gravitate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I like one song from with the Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't even say it, but like there's one or
Speaker 2: two songs I like from that album, you know, so
Speaker 2: I just rotate the other ones, like Yeah, me and
Speaker 2: Jace love bad Blood.
Speaker 3: That's our that's our vibe.
Speaker 5: Yeah you do, That's that's that Michigan mom, and.
Speaker 2: You I know, hey, guys, what are your thoughts? A
Speaker 2: mom defends asking guests a daughter's birthday to bring five
Speaker 2: dollars for backyard renovation in lieu of gifts.
Speaker 3: What it says?
Speaker 2: A mom of too opened up about how she's doing
Speaker 2: things differently her second baby's first birthday party, and her
Speaker 2: approach raised some eyebrows online. Rachel Gibbs, she's a known
Speaker 2: on TikTok Rachel on Life opened about how she's handling
Speaker 2: her daughter Harry Potter theme first birthday party, so she
Speaker 2: decided to just have an hour and a half long
Speaker 2: party at nine thirty am. I don't want you at
Speaker 2: my house all day. I'm giving you your day. I
Speaker 2: do not expect you to sacrifice your entire Saturday for
Speaker 2: a child's birthday who's not even going to remember it.
Speaker 2: There and the time, please leave my house. My child
Speaker 2: needs to nap, and anybody who's coming to a one
Speaker 2: year old's birthday party is already up at nine thirty,
Speaker 2: or they can suck it up for one day because
Speaker 2: it's over at eleven.
Speaker 3: You have your entire day.
Speaker 5: Chicknut friends to invite because it sounds a little sounds
Speaker 5: a little harsh, I'm not so sure. I have a
Speaker 5: matching best friend bracelet with her.
Speaker 1: Is this all on the invite?
Speaker 2: Then, she said, I specifically, very clearly put on the limitations.
Speaker 2: Please do not bring gifts, which fine a lot of us.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still gotta give you ram these, she said,
Speaker 2: explain that she put a cute rhyme about her little
Speaker 2: girl being far from a house elf and needed nothing
Speaker 2: from her gifts and then I said, if you feel
Speaker 2: inclined to bring something, consider five dollars because we're trying
Speaker 2: to remodel, redo our yard. Our backyard is a train wreck.
Speaker 2: Bring us five bucks to help us redo our backyard.
Speaker 2: That's what we're asking. The mom admitted, I'm very picky.
Speaker 2: I don't want to buy shit for my kids. I
Speaker 2: don't want you to buy for my kids. So I
Speaker 2: think she's just trying to be funny and people are
Speaker 2: taking offense to it. I think it's funny, like I
Speaker 2: don't want you guys also to bring like the kids
Speaker 2: have enough toys. But I hope she's not being serious
Speaker 2: about the five dollars things she has to be like
Speaker 2: she's taking a piss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think she's being funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it's funny.
Speaker 1: But I could see where it's kind of like, wait,
Speaker 1: is this funny?
Speaker 5: Is it not?
Speaker 2: But speaking of there's another one that I think is
Speaker 2: even more controversial, which kind of makes me get a
Speaker 2: little uh when it comes to my wedding. Is there's
Speaker 2: there was this thing that went around the news where
Speaker 2: the couple said, instead of gifts, don't know, gifts, no
Speaker 2: money at the wedding, they just wanted people to pay
Speaker 2: for their dinner. What because we know weddings are so expensive, right, so.
Speaker 5: So you could choose to have one if you don't
Speaker 5: want to feed people.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, guys, yeah, are you are you considering this?
Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I feel bad even being like, hey, the airbeam, you
Speaker 2: know that the castle were staying in like you guys,
Speaker 2: you know you guys aren't. But like you know, other people,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel bad having them pay for that
Speaker 2: because but I'm also like, well, if they were traveling
Speaker 2: anyone's they'd need to find a hotel, right, I would
Speaker 2: never have them pay for the food of the day
Speaker 2: of the wedding, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, what hotels is normal for people to right.
Speaker 2: So, but then I'm like, is am I asking the
Speaker 2: same thing? Because I'm asking for the wedding dinner food money,
Speaker 2: I'm asking for like the day before and the day after,
Speaker 2: you know, like the breakfast and dinner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and at the intergral day you're also providing a
Speaker 5: whole experience in that, like as a guest coming. What's
Speaker 5: really cool about it? I don't know how much we're sharing,
Speaker 5: but like I like that I know there's a full
Speaker 5: experience in that. Like, tell me a time in my
Speaker 5: life where someone invites me to say, hey, so all
Speaker 5: you'll have to do is pay for the castle. That's
Speaker 5: not a real sentence, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If someone was traveling somewhere for a destination, they have
Speaker 2: to pay for their food, hotel.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, and let's.
Speaker 1: Let's remember gifts of any sort for anything are an option.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I am a guest invited to something,
Speaker 1: I don't have to bring a gift. No, that is
Speaker 1: an option. Is it obviously what you should do. Yes,
Speaker 1: But you're basically saying it's not an option for you
Speaker 1: to bring a gift. If you want to eat, you're
Speaker 1: paying for your food, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's not comparable in my And you're saying a
Speaker 1: certain amount a gift, you could buy a ten dollars
Speaker 1: gift or you could buy a five hundred dollars gift. Right,
Speaker 1: but like you're sitting in that food. Is like what
Speaker 1: if they can't.
Speaker 5: It's called hosting, right, That's what that is. It's called
Speaker 5: hosting an event. So if you're going to host something
Speaker 5: and you invite those people then you host.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah, or just see on the flowers, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't get the point of flowers at a wedding.
Speaker 3: I don't so expensive?
Speaker 2: Why there's no point pick some like those weed flowers
Speaker 2: from the like garden.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: I did a night wedding, so I didn't have to
Speaker 1: really do flowers, and I just did candles.
Speaker 2: Pretty That's what I did too, Cat, I don't, well,
Speaker 2: I'll never understand the flower thing ever.
Speaker 1: It's so expensive for flowers, it's.
Speaker 5: Really expensive, but it's stunning.
Speaker 2: I know, if I had the money, I mean, like
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, like if if you know.
Speaker 3: If you weren't already over budget, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. It's trying to find the words.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't already over budget, then yes.
Speaker 5: So you guys. What ended up happening with the Boundary
Speaker 5: Queen birthday party?
Speaker 2: People brought fifty dollars like it ended up being fifty
Speaker 2: dollars in cash?
Speaker 3: People like it was the total?
Speaker 1: Were only ten people invited or only only some people
Speaker 1: bring I would have wanted to go just to see
Speaker 1: it all play out.
Speaker 2: How are the speeches, ladies going? What the speeches for
Speaker 2: the bridesmaids. Okay, don't let me just hear a little
Speaker 2: bit of.
Speaker 3: It right now. Let's just give me like a little like.
Speaker 1: Did you just see the speech I had to do
Speaker 1: the other day? KB had to literally hold me up.
Speaker 1: It was awful.
Speaker 5: I started mine out with saying, what doesn't kilt us
Speaker 5: only makes us stronger?
Speaker 1: Oh God, could she just be the only one I forgot?
Speaker 3: That's so funny? But please, that's really funny.
Speaker 1: Started that way, that's good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, great, well good. I'm just tested it out here
Speaker 5: to see how it would go over with the crowd.
Speaker 2: Speaking of, if you guys want to come see us
Speaker 2: on the Wine Down Tour, we are going to Nashville, Detroit,
Speaker 2: and Chicago in June June, like yeah, June fifth, Nashville,
Speaker 2: June sixth, Detroit, June seventh, Chicago.
Speaker 3: Come see us.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun and we have well,
Speaker 2: we'll save some private snippets for y'all.
Speaker 5: We you are really good.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, all right. I think that's it, y'all. All right,
Speaker 2: I really love you, love you too. Come help to us,
Speaker 2: bring us some wine.
Speaker 5: I was at Camis yesterday and I was telling them
Speaker 5: all about how it's on the rider for wine down,
Speaker 5: all right by girls
Speaker 1: Bye bye bye