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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ Is King.

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Speaker 5: Two US Navy ships colliding in the Caribbean. Videos appearing

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Speaker 5: Officials now assessing whether the vessels are able to proceed

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Speaker 5: with their deployment in the Caribbean, where they are part

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Speaker 6: In the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Now the US carrying out a series of strikes against

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Speaker 1: ISIS and Syria. US Central Command saying forces conducted ten

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Speaker 5: Is a legitimate reason to have a debate about things

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Speaker 5: like migration.

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Speaker 6: It went too far.

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Speaker 5: It's been disruptive and destabilizing.

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Speaker 6: And it needs to be fixed in a.

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Speaker 2: Humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people.

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Speaker 7: Columbus businessman Les Wester is scheduled to be deposed by

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Speaker 8: Fallout over the latest release of the Epstein files. Hollywood

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Speaker 8: agency after his suggestive emails with Epstein associate Gaelenn Maxwell

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Speaker 7: A letter to.

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Speaker 3: Area Powermount is trying to sweeten it's Warner Brothers bid

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Speaker 1: February sixteenth, twenty twenty six ANNO. Dominate well, folks. Huge

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Speaker 1: news out of the Department of Homeland Security. This is

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Speaker 6: What does it mean? And they're all losing their minds.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security is finally going after Discord

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Speaker 1: read it and these other sites were anti ice, anarchists, anarchists, terrorists,

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Speaker 6: For posting a meme. Now you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: You guys remember this whole situation with Netflix and Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Terry, you know what this world is like. This is

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Speaker 4: Well, Jack, I think no small part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, physics, or just enjoy a fun you know,

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Speaker 10: Yes, and rightfully so. Right the whole the whole point

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Speaker 10: They want they want to usher in, they want to

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Speaker 10: It's a political company, and they really don't care as

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Speaker 1: It's it's all about the narrative. Terry working people go

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Speaker 6: Kevin, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Doing pretty well?

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Speaker 7: Jack? Are you hey?

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Speaker 1: It did match the style of glove, and inside that

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Speaker 1: they did find DNA. And I think what they were

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Speaker 1: saying my reading between the lines of this was that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily blood as you say, but that it

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Speaker 1: was touch DNA, so not the blood of Nancy Guthrie,

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Speaker 1: but actually or the DNA skin cells that sort of

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Speaker 1: thing transferred DNA from the person who was wearing it.

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Speaker 1: And then so this is where this big kerfuffle has

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Speaker 1: gotten in over the weekend, and I know you've been

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Speaker 1: talking to sources and Human Events sources have been at

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Speaker 1: this all weekend talking about this really dust up between

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Speaker 1: which lab are they going to use?

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Speaker 6: The Quantico lab, which of course.

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Speaker 1: Has access to all of the national database, or this

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Speaker 1: lab down in Florida, which is a private lab doesn't

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Speaker 1: have access to all of those materials, isn't as fast

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Speaker 1: as the FBI lab, and of course has been you know,

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Speaker 1: has been leading to a number of these issues. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: what can you tell us about the latest on that

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Speaker 1: DNA issue.

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Speaker 7: So we have, you know, plenty of advances in technology,

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Speaker 7: including AI, and if you look back to the OJ

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Speaker 7: Simpson case that was thirty years ago, that did definitely

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Speaker 7: take you know, about two to six months to get

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Speaker 7: that analysis. So fast forward, this took about twenty four

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Speaker 7: to forty eight hours, so they utilized genetic genealogy, and

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Speaker 7: so if you're familiar with any ancestral type of website

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Speaker 7: to figure out your lineage, you take a swab of

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Speaker 7: your saliva or blood and you submit it to these

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Speaker 7: companies and they will track who you're related to. Okay,

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Speaker 7: so they're using that as well. Now we didn't have

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Speaker 7: that thirty years ago and certainly not as fast. So

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Speaker 7: they're utilizing that to find a match, whether it be

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Speaker 7: a brother, a daughter, sister, a son, someone who is

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Speaker 7: related to the suspect name question. And also going to

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Speaker 7: check out.

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Speaker 1: You're going to check out their ancestry databases, just like

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Speaker 1: the Brian Koberger case. Quick break, heartstop there, keV Hold,

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Speaker 1: there will be right back.

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Speaker 6: Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 7: Jack, Where's Jack?

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Speaker 12: Where is Jack?

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Speaker 4: I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you,

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Speaker 4: what a job you do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back. We've got Kevin Posobic there live

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Speaker 1: on the scene out front of Nancy Guthrie's house, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in as well Lyndon Blake from

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Speaker 1: Real from the Daily Wire, who has been running a

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Speaker 1: completely phenomenal showcase on this Linden.

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Speaker 6: How are you, I'm good.

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Speaker 11: How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: We're great. So so Kevin in the last segment was

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Speaker 1: explaining to us and we were credit kind of getting

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Speaker 1: into this, this dispute the DNA sort of the dueling

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Speaker 1: statements from the FBI and the sheriff walk us through

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Speaker 1: the type of DNA that we believe was recover from

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Speaker 1: the glove and what it means in terms of this

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Speaker 1: profile that they're trying to work up, and how does

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Speaker 1: the FBI then use that by putting it into this

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Speaker 1: code of database for hearing all these these phrases, these

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Speaker 1: jargons run around, what does it all mean?

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Speaker 11: Okay? So I actually just talked with a former FBI

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Speaker 11: special agent this morning that really made this very clear.

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Speaker 11: So they have, you said, the touch DNA. They're looking

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Speaker 11: at any type of fingerprints on this one glove out

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Speaker 11: of the sixteen gloves that were found scattered around Nancy's holme.

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Speaker 11: So remember Jack, we talked about this last week. Calpe

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Speaker 11: mc County is using this private lab in Florida for

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Speaker 11: the processing, and we all know the FBI lab Quantico

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Speaker 11: is up there in Virginia. So this evidence from this

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Speaker 11: one singular glove we know preliminary it's an unknown male

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Speaker 11: that was done in Florida. So because the FBI and

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Speaker 11: pe mccounty are operating off these two different labs, which

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Speaker 11: we can get to later about.

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Speaker 7: Why that may be.

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Speaker 11: Now they're having to get this glove from Florida to

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Speaker 11: the FBI lab because they're the one that has CODIS

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Speaker 11: and they can put it in their database. That database

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Speaker 11: is for the FBI, and so you get this DNA.

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Speaker 11: We're in the quality control stage today. Monday could be

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Speaker 11: hearing something today potentially, but right now it's being put

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Speaker 11: into CODIS after the quality control thing, and then from

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Speaker 11: there in COTIS, if this person has any type of

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Speaker 11: criminal record and their database, they'll be able to match whoever,

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Speaker 11: not saying that it's the guy on the video, whoever's

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Speaker 11: DNA is on this glove, they'll be able to match that. Now,

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Speaker 11: if there's not anything in CODIS, that's what Kevin was

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Speaker 11: talking about, then they're going to have to go down

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Speaker 11: the genealogy trail, which is how Brian Coburger was called.

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Speaker 11: He had no criminal record prior to slaughtering four people.

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Speaker 11: So they can go through twenty three a meters ancestry

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Speaker 11: dot com. And these things have been around for a while.

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Speaker 11: I mean I think I did ancestry dot com over

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Speaker 11: a decade ago now and back in the day people

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Speaker 11: are buying these presents for people. All that DNA automatically

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Speaker 11: went into a database. You didn't even give permission. It

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Speaker 11: was these people getting these Christmas presents ancestry dot com,

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Speaker 11: and all of a sudden, Grandpa goes to jail because

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Speaker 11: they matched his DNA. So now since that there's more regulation,

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Speaker 11: so you have to if you do this DNA, you

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Speaker 11: have to refer through a kit. You have to say,

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Speaker 11: like I subscribe to putting it in the database. But

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Speaker 11: there's two options there. From this DNA found on the glove,

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Speaker 11: when it gets in the FBI's hands, it's going to

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Speaker 11: be run through CODIS and then they may have to

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Speaker 11: go down the genealogy trail. And it's just a spider

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Speaker 11: web of really how you put it together because you

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Speaker 11: want to match the DNA on the glove to somebody

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Speaker 11: and then you have the DNA at the crime scene.

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Speaker 11: And to Kevin's point, this has not been from of

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Speaker 11: my law enforcement, but it seems there have been reports

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Speaker 11: that they were using DNA and swiping that range rover

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Speaker 11: from one of the incidents on Friday night for DNA

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Speaker 11: as well to look into. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 11: things up in the air right now, but this, you know,

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Speaker 11: so you can look at it with like a hesitant eye.

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Speaker 11: But it also could be a big breakthrough in this

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Speaker 11: case if there's a profile match.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's right. And by the way, just and

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Speaker 1: so folks who understand this, that includes if anyone in

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Speaker 1: your family has ever done a twenty three and meters.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, they're still locked up. So I've not wait wait, keV,

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Speaker 1: I've never done it.

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Speaker 6: Have you done it?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 1: I haven't myself.

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Speaker 7: No, No.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problem, keV.

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Speaker 6: I was in the military.

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Speaker 1: So the way I figured it is, they got they

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Speaker 1: got all my stuff on record.

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Speaker 6: So sorry, man, we're gonna get you.

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Speaker 1: If they if they start looking, you're busted.

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Speaker 6: You're done for.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Jack, If I could interject here, I wanted to

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Speaker 7: follow up on the glove thing. So keep in mind,

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Speaker 7: if you have to look at that picture of the glove,

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Speaker 7: the flowers in the background look very similar to the

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Speaker 7: same kind of flowers in the security footage. So if

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Speaker 7: this guy's going through the yard, he's going through there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of vegetation here, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: thorns and cactuses, okay, which could prick your skin if

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Speaker 7: you're trying to get through the weeds. So he could

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Speaker 7: have got bloodied up by one of these cactuses or

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Speaker 7: thorns in the first place, which would make his gloves

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Speaker 7: bloody with his own blood. And to follow up on

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Speaker 7: the Idaho case, what they did. What they did there

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Speaker 7: was they tracked, you know, not only through all these

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Speaker 7: tips and family members, but they tracked the family members

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Speaker 7: with a certain vehicle. So now the next step could

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Speaker 7: be that they will match fingerprints or whatnot from the

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Speaker 7: range Rover, because to my knowledge, no other prominent vehicle

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Speaker 7: has been towed away and taken as evidence, so I

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Speaker 7: think there could be a match there. And that's what

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Speaker 7: led to the arrest in the Idaho case, and we're

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Speaker 7: hoping that's what brings the conclusion to this case as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think they do. Actually let me usk Lenden that Linden,

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Speaker 1: there was I believe a report that they took this

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Speaker 1: sister's vehicle.

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Speaker 6: Did Do we know if they still have that or

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Speaker 6: is that something they're still checking out so.

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Speaker 11: Reporters on the ground haven't seen it back at the home.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, that was the report. Was the first vehicle

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Speaker 11: that was towed into evidence was Annie's car, and then

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Speaker 11: the sheriff whenever the last time he spoke said that

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Speaker 11: that car, you know, standard protocol towed into evidence. Well

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Speaker 11: then it was after that press conference we saw Nancy's car,

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Speaker 11: the car from Nancy's house get towed into evidence that

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Speaker 11: Friday when we saw the big FBI you know, ascension

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Speaker 11: on her house. But then now the range Rover has

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Speaker 11: also been towed as well. So yeah, I think Kevin's right,

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Speaker 11: and the Coburger case should give people hope. That was

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Speaker 11: over a month, but the entire time they were putting

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Speaker 11: together this really timeline this story of Brian Coburger before

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Speaker 11: they were able to follow him across the country to

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Speaker 11: do that. I think the inconsistencies with this case and

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Speaker 11: with Coburger, you before you even knew who did it,

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Speaker 11: you were, you knew they went through the back door.

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Speaker 11: You know, there's all those house diaphragms or not diaphragms,

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Speaker 11: diagrams where people were trying to figure out who did it,

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Speaker 11: but there was a clear picture of kind of how

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Speaker 11: that went about. I think the difference in this case,

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Speaker 11: you know, we still don't have a suspect idd and

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Speaker 11: we don't know what the FBI is looking at behind

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Speaker 11: the scenes. I would assume they're looking at way more

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Speaker 11: video than the doorbell camera clip that we've been given,

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Speaker 11: you would hope, so that they potentially have some type

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Speaker 11: of car in some of the video. I know it

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Speaker 11: was hard to get the video that you're seeing right now,

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Speaker 11: but you have to think if they were able to

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Speaker 11: get that, surely they've been able to get more that

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Speaker 11: their whole holding privately right now. But it's all the inconsistencies.

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Speaker 11: The fourth century, no, four century, the this, the that,

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Speaker 11: the we think it's a Berkeley Garwong, No, we think

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Speaker 11: it's this, the ransom notes. There's just a whole lot

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Speaker 11: more confusion around the nuts and bolts of this case

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Speaker 11: than if you were following the Idaho four case. You

665
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Speaker 11: just didn't know who did it. And so now it's

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Speaker 11: just a big mystery on who did this, and there's

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Speaker 11: just a lot of inconsistencies between FBI and p mac

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Speaker 11: County on what actually they think is going on.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and by the way, that to Kevin's Kevin,

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Speaker 1: You're you're reporting that you know they believe was a male.

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Speaker 1: That's that's something. The presence of the Y chromosome is

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Speaker 1: the reason that they know it's a male. So there's

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Speaker 1: just basic biology for folks. I know there are some

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Speaker 1: on in this country who don't don't quite understand how

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Speaker 1: those X and Y chromosomes work anymore. But when you

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Speaker 1: have a Y chromosome present, that means it's a male.

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Speaker 1: So it makes sense that that's when of the first

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Speaker 1: things that they would be able to identify before they've

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Speaker 1: even gotten to the point where they're digging in deeper

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Speaker 1: and able to build up an entire entire profile of

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Speaker 1: who it is or anything about you know, race or

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Speaker 1: you know, a specific family or something like that, because

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Speaker 1: of course you would see the chromosome there very quickly,

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Speaker 1: which is something of course that unfortunately does not change

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Speaker 1: regardless of if you change your pronouns online, your your

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Speaker 1: DNA as it turns out, does.

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Speaker 6: Say the same.

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Speaker 1: So word to the wise for those who are planning

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Speaker 1: to undergo gender transition and commit crimes. Right back here

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Speaker 1: a Jackasobic on with the Nion Blake and Chemasobic Human

691
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Speaker 1: Events Daily. Everybody's talking about it, and go get it

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Speaker 1: and spent my life.

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Speaker 4: They get it, this whole beautiful.

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Speaker 8: Event, and we're going to join her around and make

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Speaker 8: our way.

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Speaker 1: To get him, all right, folks, Jack Sovic back live

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Speaker 1: here Human Events Daily recovering the case of the disappearance

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Speaker 1: of Nancy Gothia On with Lynnon Blake from Daily Wire,

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Speaker 1: as well as Kevin Pisobek, whose boots on the ground

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Speaker 1: into us on out front of Nancy Gotthrie's home. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: last night you were in contact with a new source,

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Speaker 1: someone who's a member of the Sheriff's department, not the sheriff.

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Speaker 1: Directly tell us about what you learned.

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Speaker 7: Sure, So, we had an exclusive interview with Sergeant Aaron Cross,

705
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Speaker 7: and he revealed to us some statistics about the current

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Speaker 7: the current force. There's i mean, hundreds of people there

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Speaker 7: and but one of the highlights is that almost half

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Speaker 7: of this force is uh, you know, very new and

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Speaker 7: only a few years of experience, the detective in particular,

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Speaker 7: and they have you know, they're detective ones, as he

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Speaker 7: had told me, So they're they're brand new, okay. And

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Speaker 7: even the uh the senior chief or the one directed

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Speaker 7: onto this case in particular, only has about two years

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Speaker 7: of experience in homicide cases.

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Speaker 4: And you know, this is a unique case. Granted them.

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Speaker 7: The county is so large, so they're spread out, they're overwhelmed,

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Speaker 7: so they're young, in experienced, but they're working their butts off,

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Speaker 7: and they're putting in long hours away from their families,

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Speaker 7: putting in overtime, and so you know, at the end

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Speaker 7: of the day, it's it begs the question, like, you know,

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Speaker 7: why rely on these these new guys, these rookies more

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Speaker 7: or less not to be you know, use that term

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Speaker 7: in a derogatory way, but why not use the assistance

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Speaker 7: of law federal law enforcement instead. So so yeah, that's

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Speaker 7: that's pretty much what he said. And also he wanted

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Speaker 7: to highlight that, you know, this is a broad picture

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Speaker 7: here that te mc County Sheriff's Department does not have

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Speaker 7: any intention to move forward or get on board with

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Speaker 7: this larger ice anti ice movement, that we're see in

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Speaker 7: nationwide in places like Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's that's quite that's very interesting. So we're

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Speaker 1: we're tracking. TMZ says they have a new note. I'm

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Speaker 1: not personally, I'm very skeptical of those notes, to put

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Speaker 1: it that way. And of course, we also saw President

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Speaker 1: Trump coming out earlier today and saying that he's threatening

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Speaker 1: the kidnappers or abductors with the death penalty if she

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Speaker 1: is not returned. So got the President of the United

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Speaker 1: States weighing in yet again on this case which has

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Speaker 1: really captivated the nation.

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Speaker 6: We'll go back to Linden.

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Speaker 1: Linden, what Kevin is saying here about the force, you know,

742
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Speaker 1: guys who are working hard, but.

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Speaker 6: Young detectives, a young force.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't this then make the case that you would hope

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Speaker 1: to see more and better cooperation between the Sheriff's department

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Speaker 1: and the FBI one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: And the FBI guys that I talked to who used

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Speaker 11: to be in the bureau, they are very confused on

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Speaker 11: why Pema County one was had the cold shoulder, you

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Speaker 11: know when they first got into town. And two why

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Speaker 11: at the top, and again we're talking at the command level,

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Speaker 11: why there's so much lack of cooperation between the two

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Speaker 11: because again, you have Pema County they know the area,

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Speaker 11: but you have the FBI, who knows how to move

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Speaker 11: faster simply like they can speed up this investigation. They

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Speaker 11: have the tools, And it's been really hard for the

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Speaker 11: FBI because when they got into Catalina Foothills, the crime

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Speaker 11: scene was cleared by p MC County. So why PMA

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Speaker 11: County cleared that before the FBI got a chance to

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Speaker 11: look at it. You know, it takes a little bit

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Speaker 11: of time to make that initial contact, but that was

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Speaker 11: shocking to a lot of the FBI people that I've

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Speaker 11: talked to. But it's just like, you know, you have

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Speaker 11: people defending Pema County doing their own thing going to

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Speaker 11: the Florida lab. But then when you're sitting there and

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Speaker 11: it's test day like today, if the DNA from that

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Speaker 11: glove would have gone straight to the FBI's lab, we

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Speaker 11: wouldn't have this delay of this twenty four hour waiting

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Speaker 11: game of like let's just sit and wait, like things

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Speaker 11: would just speed up. So that's something that's very frustrating

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Speaker 11: to people on the federal side because they just want

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Speaker 11: to help. But again, it's the people on the ground.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's not like I keep picturing my head,

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Speaker 11: you know that scene like an Anchorman two and like

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Speaker 11: everyone like me in the street to like fight. Like

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Speaker 11: when people say like FBI and Pema County there's tension,

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Speaker 11: it's not on the ground where you have these investigators

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Speaker 11: and these deputies like going out of the FBI. It's

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Speaker 11: more of the command level. The people on the ground

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Speaker 11: are trying to get this solved, but they just keep

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Speaker 11: running into these roadblocks because there's not this synergy at

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Speaker 11: the top.

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Speaker 1: No's that's exactly right. And and Kevin, so you on

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Speaker 1: the ground, look, I understand that you're you know, you're

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Speaker 1: working with some of the sheriff's deputies as well directly,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we do consistently hear this signal coming

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Speaker 1: from the FBI side that they are really looking to

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Speaker 1: have a higher level or higher degree of cooperation from

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Speaker 1: sheriff nanos and they don't feel that they're getting it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, absolutely not, Jack, And you know, looking forward,

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Speaker 7: So tomorrow, Linden talked about that buffer barrier, some hesitation

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Speaker 7: of press releases, press statements. So tomorrow there will be

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Speaker 7: resolutions brought to the Board of Supervisors for Tucson with

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Speaker 7: Pima County Sheriff's Apartment directly which regard a certain sanctuary

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Speaker 7: city like policies. Okay, and I'm not sure if they

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Speaker 7: will be voted on tomorrow, but it will be presented.

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Speaker 7: And so what that means is potentially, in essence, in

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Speaker 7: the future, federal agents will need search warrants to even

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Speaker 7: go into county properties to interview illegal immigrants or any

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Speaker 7: any detained peoples. So they'll need to get the confidence

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Speaker 7: of a judge first to conduct operations further, and to

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Speaker 7: even cooperate further, I guess, even if the department wants

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Speaker 7: to work with them.

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Speaker 1: So wait, hold on a second. So what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is there's new resolutions that are going up. These are

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Speaker 1: anti ICE measures coming out right there in p Mac County.

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Speaker 1: While all of this is going on, while the eyes

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Speaker 1: of the world are on Pea mccounty, the Board of

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Speaker 1: Supervisors is putting up resolutions that are anti ICE in

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Speaker 1: terms of their design and intent. But what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is that you're getting indications that the way these things

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Speaker 1: are written, they could actually hinder the relationship the coordination

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Speaker 1: between working a murder investigation between the federal level and

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Speaker 1: the sheriff's level, at the local, at the at the

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Speaker 1: local on the ground level.

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Speaker 7: Is that what you're saying, Oh, I'm saying much more

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Speaker 7: than that, Jack, I'm saying much more than that. So

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Speaker 7: they're not only not using the word sanctuary city. Of

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Speaker 7: course that would be too uh, that would be too harsh.

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Speaker 7: But this also includes not just ICE, but Border Patrol, FBI,

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Speaker 7: HSI or whoever else would like to inquire into any

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Speaker 7: investigations going on. And yes, so very much so.

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Speaker 4: This is.

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Speaker 7: Quite the timing, it's quite interesting timing that we're seeing

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Speaker 7: this this unfold. So I will definitely keep you updated

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Speaker 7: and posted on this.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a huge scoop, Linden. Can I get your

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Speaker 1: reaction to hearing this.

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Speaker 11: I mean, at this point, it's it's shocking, but it's

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Speaker 11: not because of what we've seen unfold the last two

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Speaker 11: weeks like it, I mean, Kevin, it seems like it's

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Speaker 11: just a circus down there. So the fact that we're

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Speaker 11: seeing this and this resolution and this again another avenue

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Speaker 11: where PEMA, County and federal agents can be met at

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Speaker 11: a crossroads, like it's not surprising. But to have all

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Speaker 11: this happen during this I mean, the entire world is

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Speaker 11: watching Pema County and it cannot be good for tourism.

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Speaker 11: It cannot be good for anyone that gets this job

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Speaker 11: offer in Pema County right now. I mean, you're it's

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Speaker 11: like one of those places where're like, oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 11: I would not want to live there, because what the

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Speaker 11: heck is going on?

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Speaker 6: No, it's it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And God forbid you have family there, God forbid you

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Speaker 1: have you're someone. And of course there's these stories about, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's home invasions, there's burglaries.

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Speaker 6: I mean, imagine you live.

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Speaker 1: There, or if you have loved ones or the elderly

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Speaker 1: loved ones who live in the area, and there's stories

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Speaker 1: about burglaries and home invasions and all the rest, and

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Speaker 1: it's and let's let's not get away from I think

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Speaker 1: the reason that this has struck a struck a chord

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Speaker 1: for so many is that we've all got older relatives

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Speaker 1: or older friends and and you know, you do have

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Speaker 1: to think about their safety, and this idea that someone

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Speaker 1: could just disappear in the middle of the night is

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Speaker 1: something that's shocking and horrifying.

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Speaker 6: London, where can people go to follow you in your program.

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Speaker 11: Okay, so yeah, we have Fining Nancy Gothrie. It's on

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Speaker 11: the Daily Wire platforms as well as Spotify and Apple,

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Speaker 11: and I will continue to post updates on my personal

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Speaker 11: pages at London Lake Excellent and you.

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Speaker 7: Got you can follow me at x and Instagram, Kevin

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Speaker 7: Pasovic and also sometimes Substack and also Real America's Voice

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Speaker 7: and Jack if I have an extra minute here, I

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Speaker 7: wanted to add two things. So they have no light ordinance,

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Speaker 7: okay at nighttime, so it has to be dark in

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Speaker 7: an old, old community. And also the street cameras if

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Speaker 7: there is looking for a getaway car, okay, like it's

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Speaker 7: me gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: As always, you have my permission to lay shore