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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George NORII with doctor Bruce Goldberg. Bruce,
Speaker 2: would you explain what a spirit phone is?
Speaker 3: Okay? So basically, it's a device that you can contact
Speaker 3: souls on the fifth dimension. You might say, you know,
Speaker 3: like when you're in the fifth dimension, you're an ultra terrestrial.
Speaker 3: It's my famous term mm hm be at the part
Speaker 3: of soul, a lost loved one or just somebody who's
Speaker 3: in between lives but occupying the spiritual body. So this
Speaker 3: was the war between another war between Edison and Tesler.
Speaker 3: Tesler had a very weird experience which generated this. Let
Speaker 3: me just kind of just review what happened. Sure Tesla
Speaker 3: was considering the possibility of contacting, you know, spirits from
Speaker 3: the other side while experimenting with a crystal radio powered
Speaker 3: by electromagnetic waves in nineteen oh one. The signals he
Speaker 3: picked up one night were so unnerving that his scientific
Speaker 3: mind couldn't help but think of ghosts, he wrote in
Speaker 3: his diary. So let me quote just quickly here. My
Speaker 3: first observations positively terrified me, as there was a present
Speaker 3: in them, something mysterious, not to say supernatural, and I
Speaker 3: was alone in my lab at night. So he was
Speaker 3: freaked out by this, and he didn't know what this was,
Speaker 3: and he decided to using his brilliant mind to come
Speaker 3: up with a device that would be able to record
Speaker 3: the sound in more detail of people who are on
Speaker 3: the other side. And of course in those days, remember
Speaker 3: spiritualism was very popular in the late eighteen hundreds and
Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, where people would go to seances. You know,
Speaker 3: remember Harry Houdini trying to contact his late mother, exposing
Speaker 3: all the phonies. That was the time. But there were
Speaker 3: some real people here. So let me go over to
Speaker 3: the science behind the first and then we can show
Speaker 3: you how this works. So scientifically, energy can neither be
Speaker 3: created nor destroyed, that's a basic law physics, but can
Speaker 3: change from one form to another. If a living soul
Speaker 3: is a form of energy we call it electromagnetic radiation
Speaker 3: like this radio signal or a computer signal, then after
Speaker 3: death it will always be in some form of energy. Okay,
Speaker 3: So it is expected that advances in electronic instrumentation will
Speaker 3: make it possible one day. But you'll see we have
Speaker 3: it today, not only to record the existence of supernatural events,
Speaker 3: but also to talk with them, and this is what
Speaker 3: we call today EVP electronic voice phenomena. So that was
Speaker 3: the science behind that. There are two prominent ways in
Speaker 3: which supernatural is connected to electronics. First, there is a
Speaker 3: claim connection between electro magnetism and ghosts. Ghost hunters claim
Speaker 3: that ghosts create electromagnetic radiation or consist of electromagnetic energy.
Speaker 3: Some people see ghosts on TV sets of a departed
Speaker 3: relative or answer the phone and it's a departed loved
Speaker 3: one that happens. Let's say it's happened a lot, It's
Speaker 3: been recorded enough. The second aspect here is a direct
Speaker 3: connection between electronic devices and the super natural is often asserted.
Speaker 3: The most common form is what we call EVP electronic
Speaker 3: voice phenomena, and this occurs when individuals claim that supernatural entities,
Speaker 3: altered terrestrials as I call them, especially spirits of the departed,
Speaker 3: communicates through static in electronic devices. So this is what's
Speaker 3: known as the EVP, which is very well researched today.
Speaker 3: It's been around for the last over one hundred plus
Speaker 3: years and Testa was the first one to come up
Speaker 3: with this. So let me show you example, let's say
Speaker 3: that you go to a graveyard, right, and you have
Speaker 3: your phone and you're recording it. You just have it
Speaker 3: on the you know, your tape you want to tape something. Oh,
Speaker 3: if you have a tape player or whatever you have,
Speaker 3: and you walk around the graveyard, you don't say anything,
Speaker 3: you don't do anything. You just walk around. And then
Speaker 3: when you're there for maybe an hour, you go home
Speaker 3: and then you play back your device, your tape recorder
Speaker 3: or phone. Not very often, but occasionally you will get
Speaker 3: voices help me, I was murdered. You're going to get
Speaker 3: all kinds of things coming up. And that's because you're
Speaker 3: actually recording the electromagnetic radiation, which is what a soul is,
Speaker 3: your subconscious mind or soul is electromagnetic radiation. So Testa
Speaker 3: was brilliant enough to say that, hey, if it's electromagnetic radiation,
Speaker 3: it's always there, and if it's there, occasionally we can
Speaker 3: catch it on tape.
Speaker 2: Now, how do they connect with the other side.
Speaker 3: Well, remember, the electromagnetic radiation is out there. It's like
Speaker 3: cosmic radiation or their kind of radiation. So they're out
Speaker 3: there and they're trying to communicate with people on the
Speaker 3: earth plane, especially people who loved ones. If you're a
Speaker 3: person has clinically died across into spirit as we say,
Speaker 3: and they're hovering around where they were last alive, which
Speaker 3: is very common, and they have maybe a grandson or
Speaker 3: a granddaughter or this son or daughter or a husband
Speaker 3: or wife, whatever, and they want to communicate, so they're
Speaker 3: sending out saying like, you know, help me, I'm here,
Speaker 3: or I need help, and they don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're just talking, which is telepathically actually through electromagnetic radiation
Speaker 3: on the astral plane fifth dimension, and people can't hear them.
Speaker 3: But a device can, just like your radio, like a
Speaker 3: radio people listening to the show or their computer or
Speaker 3: cell phones can pick up signals, so you can, you know,
Speaker 3: you can communicate with people across the world with the
Speaker 3: cell phone or a computer. Right, electromagnetic radiation that's what
Speaker 3: all these devices run by. So why can't you communicate
Speaker 3: with a soul which is also electromagnetic radiation? And that
Speaker 3: is the science behind or the theory behind Tesla's work
Speaker 3: with the spirit phone. Now let's get back to Edison
Speaker 3: for a moment.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, was there a difference between
Speaker 2: what Edison was doing and what Tesla was doing.
Speaker 3: Well, Remember Edison was always playing catch up to Tesler.
Speaker 3: He knew that Tesla was brilliant and smarter than him,
Speaker 3: but he would never admit it. Okay, so they had
Speaker 3: a rivalry. He said, you know, if Tesla's going to
Speaker 3: do this, and this was well known as I was
Speaker 3: reported by the media that he says, well, I'm going
Speaker 3: to beat him out. So he decided to come up
Speaker 3: with his phone or his phone to do this. And
Speaker 3: what happened was that he set up a meeting with
Speaker 3: a bunch of psychics and mediums and channelers, etc. And
Speaker 3: he had this device that he created what he called
Speaker 3: his spirit phone, and he set it up for a
Speaker 3: certain evening and he was going to you know, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of there was media there, and he
Speaker 3: was trying to impress everyone. So his prototype spirit phone
Speaker 3: was put into tests in nineteen twenty and the mediums
Speaker 3: and psychics and scientists that were there, they saw this
Speaker 3: like a projector like machine was set on a workbench
Speaker 3: that admitted the thin beam of light into a photoelectric cell.
Speaker 3: That illuminated cell was meant to detect the presence of
Speaker 3: forces and objects people were sitting there for hours, nothing happened.
Speaker 3: Edison died in nineteen thirty one without ever producing evidence
Speaker 3: of spirits, whereas Test his spirit phone was the basis
Speaker 3: of the EVP phenomena that we have today. So test
Speaker 3: the one that war again.
Speaker 2: Has anybody perfected the phone where they can talk directly?
Speaker 3: It's not like, Okay, there are devices you can get today.
Speaker 3: You can actually go to Amazon and order a ghost meter.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. They had these devices that will pick
Speaker 3: up electromagnetic radiation. So if you so it's commercial today,
Speaker 3: you can actually you know, you have to be patient
Speaker 3: because just because you're using a device like this, it
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that some entity is going to make you
Speaker 3: feel happy and say, hey, I'm going to communicate with you.
Speaker 3: But this the electronic device today, quote a ghost detector
Speaker 3: or quote ghost meter, which contains a circuit that can
Speaker 3: detect oscillations in the magnetic field. And these electro magnetic
Speaker 3: field meters or EMF meters are available commercially. Like I say,
Speaker 3: you could ordered them on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Do they work?
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't used them myself, but you can read
Speaker 3: the reviews on them. But they should work, but not
Speaker 3: necessarily every time you use them.
Speaker 2: What happened in nineteen oh one that scared the living
Speaker 2: daylights no.
Speaker 3: I roughly described that where Tesla was working on his
Speaker 3: one of his little experiments here and he had this
Speaker 3: this event or an observation that terrified them while he
Speaker 3: was trying to connect with one of these quote ghosts.
Speaker 3: He was sitting in his lab and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this signals that came up from his devices crystal radio
Speaker 3: and scared the p GPS out of him. And as
Speaker 3: I quoted him, he said that there was present something mysterious, supernatural,
Speaker 3: and I was alone in my lab at night and
Speaker 3: he was just like really scared it like a psychic attack.
Speaker 2: That was the event of nineteen oh one.
Speaker 3: That would be nineteen oh one, right, So that was
Speaker 3: and that got them on the what he got when
Speaker 3: he did that. That was when he started working on
Speaker 3: his spirit phone. And then the media got involved, and
Speaker 3: of course you know then become the media loves having
Speaker 3: wars between people that ares. And then remember it was
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty when Edison set up that little meeting with
Speaker 3: the quote seance kind of thing with his spirit phone,
Speaker 3: which failed. So that was twenty years nineteen years later.
Speaker 3: So this was going on throughout the nineteen early nineteen
Speaker 3: hundreds while they were working on their other inventions and
Speaker 3: patents and you know motion picture machine, the copy machine,
Speaker 3: and you know all the things that Edyson came up
Speaker 3: with in Custer's developments his patents. So this was around
Speaker 3: because in those days, remember, spiritualism was a major topic
Speaker 3: of what people would do. They get together seances, and
Speaker 3: they were all trying to mostly overcome bereavement from lost
Speaker 3: loved ones. Was the main reason why spiritualism became very
Speaker 3: popular in this country. Came in from Europe, but in
Speaker 3: the late eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds of spiritualism,
Speaker 3: contacting this spirits of the dead was a major thing today.
Speaker 2: In those days, Tesla was a very lonely person by design,
Speaker 2: wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a germfobe. He was. He's not like
Speaker 3: the Howard Hughes of his time. He was. He would
Speaker 3: walk around like eight times before he sat down for dinner.
Speaker 3: He would wash his hands a million times, he was.
Speaker 3: He would dress for dinner at this little restaurant. He
Speaker 3: would go to and.
Speaker 2: Clean his knives and forks like twenty times or something.
Speaker 3: Not very good. He was not a party animal. Let's
Speaker 3: put a desk way, even though he was invited to
Speaker 3: a lot of functions, and because he was the star,
Speaker 3: he was like he was like having Elon Musk come somewhere.
Speaker 3: But he was a weird guy in that level. And
Speaker 3: remember he could he kept pigeons, remember, on top of
Speaker 3: the building of the hotel in New York. And he
Speaker 3: was a germ fobe. He collected pigeons, which of the
Speaker 3: dirtiest birds you'll ever going to see to eat?
Speaker 2: To eat or what was he doing with them?
Speaker 3: Well, he actually he was so involved with a particular
Speaker 3: pigeon that he he wanted to marry the pigeon. It
Speaker 3: was it was sort of like you picked it. If
Speaker 3: you ever remember the mel Bricks movie that producers, Yeah,
Speaker 3: remember the writer, the real weird writer who had pigeons
Speaker 3: on the ceiling of his hotel. That was they were
Speaker 3: trying to mimic Tesla with that depiction.
Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, but he was.
Speaker 3: You understand, Tesla was a brilliant man who people would
Speaker 3: just put him in a lab and say, you know,
Speaker 3: don't communicate with us, just do your thing, and we're
Speaker 3: going to make a lot of money, and we're not
Speaker 3: going to give you anything other than a certain amount
Speaker 3: of money for you. He died pennyless. And even though
Speaker 3: there were millions of dollars that came through his hands
Speaker 3: in the research, he put everything into his towers in
Speaker 3: Long Island. You know that he used for the Tesla
Speaker 3: gun or the death ray, as well as in Colorado
Speaker 3: the free energy devices. Remember, these patents worked. You can't
Speaker 3: have a patent in the United States without demonstrating that
Speaker 3: it actually works. So his free energy device actually works.
Speaker 3: But no what he ever capitalized on it because of
Speaker 3: the robber barons, and you know, the politics was against him.
Speaker 3: And remember the government. Here's the other thing about Tesla.
Speaker 3: He had this device. This is why the government was
Speaker 3: afraid of him. Even though Tesla was not an evil person.
Speaker 3: He had a device think of a transistor radio maybe
Speaker 3: four inches by three inches a rectangle. Okay, right. He
Speaker 3: could take this device with energy. He could put it
Speaker 3: on side on the side of the Empire State Building
Speaker 3: and bring down the building by energy vibrations. That's how
Speaker 3: dangerous people thought he was, although he wasn't going to
Speaker 3: do that. So let me show you what Tester understood.
Speaker 3: Tester understood the secrets of the universe, and this is
Speaker 3: what he said. I'm gonna say how it applies to hypnotherapy.
Speaker 3: He said, if you understand three things, you understand the
Speaker 3: secrets of the universe, energy, frequency, and vibration. That's it.
Speaker 3: So in my hypnotherapy practice, I deal with the soul,
Speaker 3: which is electromagnetic radiation or dark matter, if you want
Speaker 3: to think for that way. I deal with accessing the
Speaker 3: highest by raising the frequency vibrational rate of the soul's body,
Speaker 3: by accessing the perfect frequency of the higher self or
Speaker 3: the super conscious mind. In other words, my practice illustrates
Speaker 3: Tesla's research of the secrets of the universe, which is
Speaker 3: why my patients, not me. My patients do ninety nine
Speaker 3: percent of the therapy and why they can overcome incurable
Speaker 3: diseases or depression, anxiety, bereavement, and all the things that
Speaker 3: my patients have done. And I'm very proud of that,
Speaker 3: but I'm not doing it. They are. I'm one percent.
Speaker 3: I'm sort of like the social director on the combat
Speaker 3: cruise ship. They're doing all the work, but they have
Speaker 3: to be connected to the higher self, just like Tesler
Speaker 3: connected people with his spirit phone to entities on the
Speaker 3: other side, same principle, all deal with energy, frequency and vibration.
Speaker 2: Bruce, If Tesla were alive today, what kind of technology
Speaker 2: do you think.
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, this would be Buck Rodgers in the
Speaker 3: twenty fifth century. If Tesla was alive today, you think
Speaker 3: the military would love him the way? You know, this
Speaker 3: guy would develop devices that would put an enemy into
Speaker 3: a stargate, into a black hole. I mean, this guy
Speaker 3: would be using more than just electricity. Course, electricity would
Speaker 3: be his main thing, but he would be developing technology
Speaker 3: on the military use. Of course, they would take advantage
Speaker 3: of him in doing so. Remember the military always gets
Speaker 3: first priority. When the Wright brothers flew the first airplane
Speaker 3: in Kittyhawk in December of nineteen oh three, Teddy Roosevelt,
Speaker 3: who was president of the time, one of my heroes
Speaker 3: by the way, fellow Scorpio, he sent a military advisor
Speaker 3: to watch that event because he wanted the military to
Speaker 3: use airplanes in eventual wars, which occurred in World War One.
Speaker 2: Tesla died before the atomic.
Speaker 3: Bomb, Yeah he did, but he was also around involved
Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia experiment, as I discussed the last November
Speaker 3: on the show. So Tesl it was Einstein that was
Speaker 3: actually more involved with the A bomb than Tesl.
Speaker 2: At Tesla witnessed the atomic bomb, what do you think
Speaker 2: he would have said.
Speaker 3: Oh, what he would say would be, first of all,
Speaker 3: he would be horrified by it, just like Oppenheim had said,
Speaker 3: that was the worst thing he ever did, and even
Speaker 3: Einstein said, you know, it was the worst thing we
Speaker 3: ever did because of the Nagasaki in Hiroshima exposures. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: But Tesla would look upon it as not as a
Speaker 3: weapon of evil. He would look upon it as developing
Speaker 3: it for nuclear energy. You know, nuclear energy today with
Speaker 3: all the green people and all the people yelling and
Speaker 3: screaming about you know, fossil fuels, et cetera, nuclear energy
Speaker 3: is the cleanest and the most efficient and the greatest
Speaker 3: form of energy that we have today. When he's been
Speaker 3: working for decades, and you know, politically people don't like it,
Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's a great source of Eventually,
Speaker 3: if Tesla would have used it not for making military
Speaker 3: equipment or weapons, I'm sure the military would have gotten
Speaker 3: involved with him. He would have used it for nuclear
Speaker 3: power for you know, heating combs, et cetera. And he
Speaker 3: would use it for other ways, in which maybe for
Speaker 3: space travel, you know, using it for our crafts in
Speaker 3: our space force, you know we have today. He would
Speaker 3: use that for a more positive way, but the military
Speaker 3: would have probably tried to coax him by using grant
Speaker 3: money to get him to develop more weapons so that
Speaker 3: you know, we could go from the A bomb to
Speaker 3: the H bomb, to the Q bomb to whatever else involved,
Speaker 3: you know, So that would have been his mentality. No
Speaker 3: Tesla would have made this leaks like centuries ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Ironically, we're doing a program on Oppenheimer tomorrow and I
Speaker 2: Bruce and yeah, well there's going to be a movie
Speaker 2: coming out about him.
Speaker 3: Oh, really interesting. But he was an interesting guy because Oppenheim,
Speaker 3: when he was in Los Alamos in New Mexico in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty five with a bunch of merry men, as
Speaker 3: I call that, he regretted significantly, and I hope they
Speaker 3: point that out in the film. I haven't seen that
Speaker 3: and will eventually see it. But he was he really
Speaker 3: did not like the result. He was very he felt
Speaker 3: very guilty about the depths that occurred in Japan because
Speaker 3: of that.
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