1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: And welcome back to George NORII with doctor Bruce Goldberg. Bruce, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: would you explain what a spirit phone is? 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: Okay? So basically, it's a device that you can contact 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: souls on the fifth dimension. You might say, you know, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: like when you're in the fifth dimension, you're an ultra terrestrial. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: It's my famous term mm hm be at the part 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: of soul, a lost loved one or just somebody who's 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: in between lives but occupying the spiritual body. So this 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: was the war between another war between Edison and Tesler. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Tesler had a very weird experience which generated this. Let 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: me just kind of just review what happened. Sure Tesla 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: was considering the possibility of contacting, you know, spirits from 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: the other side while experimenting with a crystal radio powered 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: by electromagnetic waves in nineteen oh one. The signals he 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: picked up one night were so unnerving that his scientific 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: mind couldn't help but think of ghosts, he wrote in 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: his diary. So let me quote just quickly here. My 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: first observations positively terrified me, as there was a present 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: in them, something mysterious, not to say supernatural, and I 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: was alone in my lab at night. So he was 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: freaked out by this, and he didn't know what this was, 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: and he decided to using his brilliant mind to come 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: up with a device that would be able to record 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: the sound in more detail of people who are on 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: the other side. And of course in those days, remember 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: spiritualism was very popular in the late eighteen hundreds and 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, where people would go to seances. You know, 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: remember Harry Houdini trying to contact his late mother, exposing 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: all the phonies. That was the time. But there were 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 3: some real people here. So let me go over to 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: the science behind the first and then we can show 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: you how this works. So scientifically, energy can neither be 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: created nor destroyed, that's a basic law physics, but can 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: change from one form to another. If a living soul 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: is a form of energy we call it electromagnetic radiation 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: like this radio signal or a computer signal, then after 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: death it will always be in some form of energy. Okay, 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: So it is expected that advances in electronic instrumentation will 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: make it possible one day. But you'll see we have 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: it today, not only to record the existence of supernatural events, 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: but also to talk with them, and this is what 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: we call today EVP electronic voice phenomena. So that was 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: the science behind that. There are two prominent ways in 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: which supernatural is connected to electronics. First, there is a 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: claim connection between electro magnetism and ghosts. Ghost hunters claim 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: that ghosts create electromagnetic radiation or consist of electromagnetic energy. 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: Some people see ghosts on TV sets of a departed 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: relative or answer the phone and it's a departed loved 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: one that happens. Let's say it's happened a lot, It's 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: been recorded enough. The second aspect here is a direct 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: connection between electronic devices and the super natural is often asserted. 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: The most common form is what we call EVP electronic 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: voice phenomena, and this occurs when individuals claim that supernatural entities, 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: altered terrestrials as I call them, especially spirits of the departed, 56 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: communicates through static in electronic devices. So this is what's 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: known as the EVP, which is very well researched today. 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: It's been around for the last over one hundred plus 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: years and Testa was the first one to come up 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: with this. So let me show you example, let's say 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: that you go to a graveyard, right, and you have 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: your phone and you're recording it. You just have it 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: on the you know, your tape you want to tape something. Oh, 64 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: if you have a tape player or whatever you have, 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: and you walk around the graveyard, you don't say anything, 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: you don't do anything. You just walk around. And then 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: when you're there for maybe an hour, you go home 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: and then you play back your device, your tape recorder 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: or phone. Not very often, but occasionally you will get 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: voices help me, I was murdered. You're going to get 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: all kinds of things coming up. And that's because you're 72 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: actually recording the electromagnetic radiation, which is what a soul is, 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: your subconscious mind or soul is electromagnetic radiation. So Testa 74 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: was brilliant enough to say that, hey, if it's electromagnetic radiation, 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: it's always there, and if it's there, occasionally we can 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: catch it on tape. 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: Now, how do they connect with the other side. 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: Well, remember, the electromagnetic radiation is out there. It's like 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: cosmic radiation or their kind of radiation. So they're out 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: there and they're trying to communicate with people on the 81 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: earth plane, especially people who loved ones. If you're a 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: person has clinically died across into spirit as we say, 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: and they're hovering around where they were last alive, which 84 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: is very common, and they have maybe a grandson or 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: a granddaughter or this son or daughter or a husband 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: or wife, whatever, and they want to communicate, so they're 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: sending out saying like, you know, help me, I'm here, 88 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: or I need help, and they don't know what they're doing. 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: They're just talking, which is telepathically actually through electromagnetic radiation 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: on the astral plane fifth dimension, and people can't hear them. 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: But a device can, just like your radio, like a 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: radio people listening to the show or their computer or 93 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: cell phones can pick up signals, so you can, you know, 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: you can communicate with people across the world with the 95 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: cell phone or a computer. Right, electromagnetic radiation that's what 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: all these devices run by. So why can't you communicate 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: with a soul which is also electromagnetic radiation? And that 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: is the science behind or the theory behind Tesla's work 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: with the spirit phone. Now let's get back to Edison 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: for a moment. 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: I was going to say, was there a difference between 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: what Edison was doing and what Tesla was doing. 103 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, Remember Edison was always playing catch up to Tesler. 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: He knew that Tesla was brilliant and smarter than him, 105 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: but he would never admit it. Okay, so they had 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: a rivalry. He said, you know, if Tesla's going to 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: do this, and this was well known as I was 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: reported by the media that he says, well, I'm going 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: to beat him out. So he decided to come up 110 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: with his phone or his phone to do this. And 111 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: what happened was that he set up a meeting with 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: a bunch of psychics and mediums and channelers, etc. And 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: he had this device that he created what he called 114 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: his spirit phone, and he set it up for a 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: certain evening and he was going to you know, there 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: was a lot of there was media there, and he 117 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: was trying to impress everyone. So his prototype spirit phone 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: was put into tests in nineteen twenty and the mediums 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: and psychics and scientists that were there, they saw this 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: like a projector like machine was set on a workbench 121 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: that admitted the thin beam of light into a photoelectric cell. 122 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: That illuminated cell was meant to detect the presence of 123 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: forces and objects people were sitting there for hours, nothing happened. 124 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: Edison died in nineteen thirty one without ever producing evidence 125 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: of spirits, whereas Test his spirit phone was the basis 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: of the EVP phenomena that we have today. So test 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: the one that war again. 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Has anybody perfected the phone where they can talk directly? 129 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: It's not like, Okay, there are devices you can get today. 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: You can actually go to Amazon and order a ghost meter. 131 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: It's really interesting. They had these devices that will pick 132 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: up electromagnetic radiation. So if you so it's commercial today, 133 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: you can actually you know, you have to be patient 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: because just because you're using a device like this, it 135 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that some entity is going to make you 136 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: feel happy and say, hey, I'm going to communicate with you. 137 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: But this the electronic device today, quote a ghost detector 138 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: or quote ghost meter, which contains a circuit that can 139 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: detect oscillations in the magnetic field. And these electro magnetic 140 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: field meters or EMF meters are available commercially. Like I say, 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: you could ordered them on Amazon. 142 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Do they work? 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't used them myself, but you can read 144 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: the reviews on them. But they should work, but not 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: necessarily every time you use them. 146 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: What happened in nineteen oh one that scared the living 147 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: daylights no. 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: I roughly described that where Tesla was working on his 149 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: one of his little experiments here and he had this 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: this event or an observation that terrified them while he 151 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: was trying to connect with one of these quote ghosts. 152 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: He was sitting in his lab and all of a sudden, 153 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: this signals that came up from his devices crystal radio 154 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: and scared the p GPS out of him. And as 155 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: I quoted him, he said that there was present something mysterious, supernatural, 156 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: and I was alone in my lab at night and 157 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: he was just like really scared it like a psychic attack. 158 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: That was the event of nineteen oh one. 159 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: That would be nineteen oh one, right, So that was 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: and that got them on the what he got when 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: he did that. That was when he started working on 162 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: his spirit phone. And then the media got involved, and 163 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: of course you know then become the media loves having 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: wars between people that ares. And then remember it was 165 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty when Edison set up that little meeting with 166 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: the quote seance kind of thing with his spirit phone, 167 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: which failed. So that was twenty years nineteen years later. 168 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: So this was going on throughout the nineteen early nineteen 169 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: hundreds while they were working on their other inventions and 170 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: patents and you know motion picture machine, the copy machine, 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: and you know all the things that Edyson came up 172 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: with in Custer's developments his patents. So this was around 173 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: because in those days, remember, spiritualism was a major topic 174 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: of what people would do. They get together seances, and 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: they were all trying to mostly overcome bereavement from lost 176 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: loved ones. Was the main reason why spiritualism became very 177 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: popular in this country. Came in from Europe, but in 178 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: the late eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds of spiritualism, 179 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: contacting this spirits of the dead was a major thing today. 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: In those days, Tesla was a very lonely person by design, 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: wasn't he. 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a germfobe. He was. He's not like 183 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: the Howard Hughes of his time. He was. He would 184 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: walk around like eight times before he sat down for dinner. 185 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: He would wash his hands a million times, he was. 186 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: He would dress for dinner at this little restaurant. He 187 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: would go to and. 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: Clean his knives and forks like twenty times or something. 189 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Not very good. He was not a party animal. Let's 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: put a desk way, even though he was invited to 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: a lot of functions, and because he was the star, 192 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: he was like he was like having Elon Musk come somewhere. 193 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: But he was a weird guy in that level. And 194 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: remember he could he kept pigeons, remember, on top of 195 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: the building of the hotel in New York. And he 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: was a germ fobe. He collected pigeons, which of the 197 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: dirtiest birds you'll ever going to see to eat? 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: To eat or what was he doing with them? 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: Well, he actually he was so involved with a particular 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: pigeon that he he wanted to marry the pigeon. It 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: was it was sort of like you picked it. If 202 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: you ever remember the mel Bricks movie that producers, Yeah, 203 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: remember the writer, the real weird writer who had pigeons 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: on the ceiling of his hotel. That was they were 205 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: trying to mimic Tesla with that depiction. 206 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, but he was. 207 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: You understand, Tesla was a brilliant man who people would 208 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: just put him in a lab and say, you know, 209 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 3: don't communicate with us, just do your thing, and we're 210 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: going to make a lot of money, and we're not 211 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: going to give you anything other than a certain amount 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: of money for you. He died pennyless. And even though 213 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: there were millions of dollars that came through his hands 214 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 3: in the research, he put everything into his towers in 215 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Long Island. You know that he used for the Tesla 216 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: gun or the death ray, as well as in Colorado 217 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: the free energy devices. Remember, these patents worked. You can't 218 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: have a patent in the United States without demonstrating that 219 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: it actually works. So his free energy device actually works. 220 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: But no what he ever capitalized on it because of 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: the robber barons, and you know, the politics was against him. 222 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: And remember the government. Here's the other thing about Tesla. 223 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: He had this device. This is why the government was 224 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: afraid of him. Even though Tesla was not an evil person. 225 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: He had a device think of a transistor radio maybe 226 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: four inches by three inches a rectangle. Okay, right. He 227 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: could take this device with energy. He could put it 228 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: on side on the side of the Empire State Building 229 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: and bring down the building by energy vibrations. That's how 230 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: dangerous people thought he was, although he wasn't going to 231 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: do that. So let me show you what Tester understood. 232 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: Tester understood the secrets of the universe, and this is 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: what he said. I'm gonna say how it applies to hypnotherapy. 234 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 3: He said, if you understand three things, you understand the 235 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: secrets of the universe, energy, frequency, and vibration. That's it. 236 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: So in my hypnotherapy practice, I deal with the soul, 237 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: which is electromagnetic radiation or dark matter, if you want 238 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: to think for that way. I deal with accessing the 239 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: highest by raising the frequency vibrational rate of the soul's body, 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: by accessing the perfect frequency of the higher self or 241 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: the super conscious mind. In other words, my practice illustrates 242 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 3: Tesla's research of the secrets of the universe, which is 243 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: why my patients, not me. My patients do ninety nine 244 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: percent of the therapy and why they can overcome incurable 245 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: diseases or depression, anxiety, bereavement, and all the things that 246 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: my patients have done. And I'm very proud of that, 247 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: but I'm not doing it. They are. I'm one percent. 248 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm sort of like the social director on the combat 249 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: cruise ship. They're doing all the work, but they have 250 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: to be connected to the higher self, just like Tesler 251 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: connected people with his spirit phone to entities on the 252 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: other side, same principle, all deal with energy, frequency and vibration. 253 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: Bruce, If Tesla were alive today, what kind of technology 254 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: do you think. 255 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, this would be Buck Rodgers in the 256 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: twenty fifth century. If Tesla was alive today, you think 257 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: the military would love him the way? You know, this 258 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: guy would develop devices that would put an enemy into 259 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: a stargate, into a black hole. I mean, this guy 260 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: would be using more than just electricity. Course, electricity would 261 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,359 Speaker 3: be his main thing, but he would be developing technology 262 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: on the military use. Of course, they would take advantage 263 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: of him in doing so. Remember the military always gets 264 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: first priority. When the Wright brothers flew the first airplane 265 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: in Kittyhawk in December of nineteen oh three, Teddy Roosevelt, 266 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: who was president of the time, one of my heroes 267 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: by the way, fellow Scorpio, he sent a military advisor 268 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: to watch that event because he wanted the military to 269 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: use airplanes in eventual wars, which occurred in World War One. 270 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: Tesla died before the atomic. 271 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: Bomb, Yeah he did, but he was also around involved 272 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia experiment, as I discussed the last November 273 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: on the show. So Tesl it was Einstein that was 274 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: actually more involved with the A bomb than Tesl. 275 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: At Tesla witnessed the atomic bomb, what do you think 276 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: he would have said. 277 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: Oh, what he would say would be, first of all, 278 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: he would be horrified by it, just like Oppenheim had said, 279 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: that was the worst thing he ever did, and even 280 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: Einstein said, you know, it was the worst thing we 281 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: ever did because of the Nagasaki in Hiroshima exposures. I'm sure. 282 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: But Tesla would look upon it as not as a 283 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: weapon of evil. He would look upon it as developing 284 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: it for nuclear energy. You know, nuclear energy today with 285 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: all the green people and all the people yelling and 286 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: screaming about you know, fossil fuels, et cetera, nuclear energy 287 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: is the cleanest and the most efficient and the greatest 288 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: form of energy that we have today. When he's been 289 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: working for decades, and you know, politically people don't like it, 290 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's a great source of Eventually, 291 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: if Tesla would have used it not for making military 292 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: equipment or weapons, I'm sure the military would have gotten 293 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: involved with him. He would have used it for nuclear 294 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: power for you know, heating combs, et cetera. And he 295 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: would use it for other ways, in which maybe for 296 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: space travel, you know, using it for our crafts in 297 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: our space force, you know we have today. He would 298 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: use that for a more positive way, but the military 299 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: would have probably tried to coax him by using grant 300 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: money to get him to develop more weapons so that 301 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: you know, we could go from the A bomb to 302 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: the H bomb, to the Q bomb to whatever else involved, 303 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: you know, So that would have been his mentality. No 304 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: Tesla would have made this leaks like centuries ahead of time. 305 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: Ironically, we're doing a program on Oppenheimer tomorrow and I 306 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: Bruce and yeah, well there's going to be a movie 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: coming out about him. 308 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: Oh, really interesting. But he was an interesting guy because Oppenheim, 309 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: when he was in Los Alamos in New Mexico in 310 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: nineteen forty five with a bunch of merry men, as 311 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: I call that, he regretted significantly, and I hope they 312 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: point that out in the film. I haven't seen that 313 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: and will eventually see it. But he was he really 314 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: did not like the result. He was very he felt 315 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: very guilty about the depths that occurred in Japan because 316 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: of that. 317 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 318 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: one a m Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 319 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: dot com for more