Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for day Edith State? Is that?
Speaker 2: Whoo?
Speaker 1: Whoom?
Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie, welcome back to the solid verbal
Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hilton Brandt. Joining
Speaker 2: me is always over there in beautiful New York City.
Speaker 2: My man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?
Speaker 1: First of all, before I commit, I want to thank
Speaker 1: my friends, my family, obviously, everybody up above, every coach
Speaker 1: who recruited me. It's been a weird process. Tie. But
Speaker 1: for the next sixty three or so minutes, are.
Speaker 2: We getting an announcement ceremony here?
Speaker 1: I am committing to the solid verbal. Whoa, I am
Speaker 1: committing to you and the verbalers and the verbaler sphere.
Speaker 2: I woo, it's a reallyef Are you putting the dad
Speaker 2: hat on as we speak?
Speaker 1: I wish I had a bucket hat? That would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: I wish I had that bucket hat, but no, Ty,
Speaker 1: early signing day, I am. I'm pretty excited the.
Speaker 2: Future transfers of America Signing day.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's so mean and accurate.
Speaker 2: Today it is the early signing period. It was enacted
Speaker 2: last year for the first time. I believe the early
Speaker 2: signing period is between today. We're recording on December the nineteenth,
Speaker 2: and it ends on Friday the twenty first, actually the
Speaker 2: first day of winter. So we will over the next
Speaker 2: minutes or so, however many minutes this show goes, talk
Speaker 2: in some level of detail about what has transpired, who
Speaker 2: signed where, what some of the big storylines are coming
Speaker 2: out of the first day of this early signing period.
Speaker 2: Absolutely things to discuss on that front. We also got
Speaker 2: more ball games to get through. Dan got a handful
Speaker 2: of those that we want to talk through. We've got
Speaker 2: our Bowl preview show today. We've got a Bowl preview
Speaker 2: show coming up on Sunday that will drop on Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's going to be the playoff preview. By the way,
Speaker 2: for those of you who have written in wondering what
Speaker 2: are you going to talk about the playoffs, It's going
Speaker 2: to be on Sunday. Okay, Then we've got another show.
Speaker 2: We got one more Bowl preview show after that. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if we want to drop that on Sunday
Speaker 2: with the playoff show, or if we want to drop
Speaker 2: it the day after Christmas, but it's going to be recorded,
Speaker 2: it's going to be available.
Speaker 1: So what does that include? What is the post playoff
Speaker 1: show include preview wise?
Speaker 2: Good question. Okay, So the playoff show is going to
Speaker 2: run from the twenty ninth, which is when the playoff
Speaker 2: games are, through New Year's Eve, which of course is
Speaker 2: the thirty first, and then the show after that would
Speaker 2: run from some of the other games of New Year's Eve,
Speaker 2: So we're breaking New Year's Eve up a little bit,
Speaker 2: but basically from the Bowl through the Sugar Bowl. Got
Speaker 2: what we're looking at, which would be on New Year's Day.
Speaker 1: So that's the New Year's six and surroundings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got about eight games per show that we're
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Speaker 2: here all throughout Bowl season, talking through all these games,
Speaker 2: these results, breaking it down. But we should start dan
Speaker 2: because it is early signing day. Yeah, with our breaking news,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to yield it. Trying to be respectful
Speaker 2: of the young men who made some very important decisions today.
Speaker 2: We should talk through these and do a bit of
Speaker 2: a signing day rundown here.
Speaker 1: And we should point out after the full signing period.
Speaker 1: So that's what Early February is the final signing day.
Speaker 1: That's when we will have on Brandon Huffman, dear dear
Speaker 1: friend of the show to recap everything and sort of
Speaker 1: look at this from a ten thousand foot angle. But
Speaker 1: this is most of what's happening is happening today as
Speaker 1: we record this on Wednesday, but we will review it
Speaker 1: in sort of more specific detail then as well.
Speaker 2: So let me do this just to give you a
Speaker 2: general framework of what we're looking at here on the
Speaker 2: recruiting trail. Your number one team, who would have guessed
Speaker 2: a surprise of the century. We've got Alabama currently as
Speaker 2: the number one rated recruiting class for the twenty nineteen class,
Speaker 2: followed by Georgia surprise surprise, followed by a couple other
Speaker 2: teams that are of NOE, Texas A and M Texas
Speaker 2: A and M with a really strong recruiting class. We'll
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that LSU really strong recruiting class,
Speaker 2: getting the number one cornerback in the nation, a local
Speaker 2: kid Oregon, your Oregon Ducks, rounding out the top five
Speaker 2: big class for the Ducks so far, followed by Clemson, Michigan, Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: Texas at nine, and my Penn State nitty Lyons at
Speaker 2: number ten. Notre Dame by the way, in case you're wondering,
Speaker 2: they're at currently at thirteen, behind Ohio State, which is
Speaker 2: at twelve. So with that is the backdrop, Dan, what
Speaker 2: were some of the storylines that are merged from the
Speaker 2: first day of really signing, so.
Speaker 1: Just a shocker in Alabama closing mostly incredibly strong and
Speaker 1: incredibly strong fashion. They get the number one running back
Speaker 1: in the country and Trey Sanders from IMG. I believe,
Speaker 1: they get his teammate, who is a top flight offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: also obviously from IMG. His name, I believe is Evan Neil.
Speaker 1: He is super big. He's six seven and a half
Speaker 1: three seventy before going into Alabama and getting you know,
Speaker 1: ripped and shredded and everything like that. Georgia has a
Speaker 1: completely historic class last season, and they follow it up
Speaker 1: with a class that's merely stupid excellent, and that's highlighted
Speaker 1: by Nolan Smith, the number one overall player per the
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Composite rankings. He's an edge rusher
Speaker 1: and just everything you could possibly want, and Georgia has
Speaker 1: had those types of players recently, so he is that
Speaker 1: guy of the future. They also got a flip. Dwan Mathis,
Speaker 1: who was a quarterback from He's from Michigan committed to
Speaker 1: Ohio State flipped. You know, probably the news of Justin
Speaker 1: Fields transferring, which we'll discuss momentarily, had something to do
Speaker 1: with the depth at Georgia and them chasing, so he goes.
Speaker 1: He ends up at Georgia and you know, a focus
Speaker 1: online play at Georgia A and m you know, really
Speaker 1: strong class receivers, but just mostly defense, especially a pair
Speaker 1: of safeties. LSU did very very well. You mentioned the cornerback,
Speaker 1: but they also signed John Emery who was a Georgia
Speaker 1: flip and he is local. Oregon did a really good
Speaker 1: job a lot on defense, a lot at receiver. You know,
Speaker 1: if you watched orgon this year, you saw that receiving
Speaker 1: options after Dylan Mitchell as we're not not really there.
Speaker 1: And they also end up with their highest rated recruit ever.
Speaker 1: His name is Kavon Thibodeau from actually not far from
Speaker 1: where I grew up from Oakes Christian and he is
Speaker 1: an EDG dresser himself who for a long period of
Speaker 1: time was the number one player in the country. Michigan
Speaker 1: had the very rare but still very effective double flip,
Speaker 1: the double heel flip, yes to and then from Alabama
Speaker 1: Dackson Hill the number one safety in the country and they,
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Speaker 1: It back to signing day and out of Italy. Clemson
Speaker 1: obviously does super well. Their defensive back classes great. They
Speaker 1: may have pulled the top corner in the country. He's
Speaker 1: up there and he's out of Georgia. Texas went defense heavy,
Speaker 1: including two Blue Chips out of California, which I imagine
Speaker 1: has something to do with Tom Herman's connection to the state.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma went heavy on the lines and Huham signed the
Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the country, and that I think
Speaker 1: that's smart.
Speaker 2: Ty Spencer, no, no, here, here's what's best. Yeah, Spencer
Speaker 2: Rattler R A T T L E R from the
Speaker 2: desert from Arizona. It's perfect, just perfect.
Speaker 1: It was by everybody who would know. A ridiculously down
Speaker 1: year for quarterbacks, and so that's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I think part of that was also JT. Daniels going
Speaker 1: to USC a year early. He would have been in
Speaker 1: this class, but a down year. I think next year
Speaker 1: is supposed to be better. Nationally, Florida State with all
Speaker 1: kinds of mostly not great news that they were unable
Speaker 1: to close on some big targets. They lose a big
Speaker 1: defensive ent Texts A and M, and most notably Mac
Speaker 1: Brown from under their feet.
Speaker 2: The Mac attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mac attack in his own backyard. A top
Speaker 1: flight quarterback, Sam Howell from North Carolina flips today from
Speaker 1: Florida State to North Carolina, So that's a big loss.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Willie Tagger has now signed a quarterback
Speaker 1: in either of his recruiting classes in Tallahassee. You may
Speaker 1: know better than I about Notre Dame's class, but from
Speaker 1: the looks of things from very far away, it looks
Speaker 1: like a very strong offensive line class, which shouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: given what Notre Dame offensive linemen have done lately. A
Speaker 1: lot of heavy defense, which makes sense given a lot
Speaker 1: of upperclassmen on this current defense. And one of the
Speaker 1: quarter I think it's one quarterback in this class, and
Speaker 1: he looks I don't think he is a blue chip
Speaker 1: by any means, so maybe just a depth play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing that I should point out. I tweeted
Speaker 2: to our friend Jeff Schwartz, I seed him on something
Speaker 2: that our other friend, Pete Sampson, also of the.
Speaker 1: Athletic we have so many friends.
Speaker 2: Put out earlier today. I guess yesterday the highlight reel
Speaker 2: from Zeke Coral. Okay, Pete is very careful to say
Speaker 2: that he doesn't want to compare anyone to Quentin Nelson,
Speaker 2: but here's the highlight tape, and the highlight tape is
Speaker 2: basically a kid who is a monster on the football field,
Speaker 2: just blowing up people about my size, about my size.
Speaker 2: You know how high school football is six right, just
Speaker 2: blowing people up who are grossly undersized. And if you
Speaker 2: like pancakes, I can tweet that out and people can
Speaker 2: check it out for themselves. But it seems like to
Speaker 2: your point, yes, they did do very well on the lines.
Speaker 2: They reinforced a lot of the other non skill positions
Speaker 2: that they need to keep this team performing at a
Speaker 2: very high level.
Speaker 1: Yes, and stepth play might be a thing at quarterback,
Speaker 1: because hey, Brandon Wimbush might have some value on the
Speaker 1: open market if he do you think he transfers joining
Speaker 1: a long line of notre Dame quarterbacks transferring and not
Speaker 1: necessarily fine.
Speaker 2: I would if he's not willing to play another position,
Speaker 2: I would, okay.
Speaker 1: Penn State also very strong offensive line class. You probably
Speaker 1: also know better than I, being somewhat there and paying
Speaker 1: attention to the Nitny Lyons closer than I. But they
Speaker 1: snag what looks to be one of, if not the
Speaker 1: best inside linebackers in the nation in Brandon Smith, who's
Speaker 1: from Virginia. I think they also got a top running
Speaker 1: back who is from Virginia. The name Joey Porter Junior
Speaker 1: should elicit the correct response, which is one, is that
Speaker 1: Joey yes son? Uh huh? Also the one bee response
Speaker 1: is I'm that old? I am that old? Where Joey
Speaker 1: Porter's son is a college football player.
Speaker 2: Almost came out my nose, but yes, that was my
Speaker 2: exact reaction.
Speaker 1: Penn State also takes two quarterbacks, one of whom is
Speaker 1: the son of Oregon's wide receiver coach. Wide receivers coach
Speaker 1: maybe looked at as more of an athlete. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how people are evaluating the Penn State quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: certainly with Trace McSorley moving on from Penn State, Penn
Speaker 1: State's in a pretty good place recruiting and talent and
Speaker 1: depth wise right now. Also of note, tie, we've got
Speaker 1: some people sort of out performing, some programs outperforming what
Speaker 1: they've looked like recently. On the field, I saw Tennessee
Speaker 1: stole of what a five star guy. Tennessee with a
Speaker 1: really nice class, a top twenty type class, heavy on
Speaker 1: the lines, a top top offensive tackle from Georgia, Mississippi
Speaker 1: State Jomo doing really really well, takes a top quarterback
Speaker 1: out of Charlotte, and you know, recruits the lines in
Speaker 1: a pretty impressive fashion. Arkansas I think has eight or
Speaker 1: nine blue chips in their class, including some really talented
Speaker 1: looking pass catchers. Ole Miss did very well, especially at receiver,
Speaker 1: Pery Jeff brom has recruited very well, most notably you know,
Speaker 1: the Rondel Moore poll from last year dividends pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: But they're strong again at receiver, and they go heavy
Speaker 1: on defense, including a pair of pretty huge, impressive defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Minnesota again, PJ. Fleck does a good job bringing in
Speaker 1: new Gophers once again along the defensive line. Virginia does
Speaker 1: a good job, and I've really liked Bronco Mindenhall's classes
Speaker 1: thus far. Virginia in that sort of mid Atlantic area
Speaker 1: has a lot of high end talent, and he's done
Speaker 1: a good job. Indiana also doing a really good job
Speaker 1: a big running back. Yeah, guy Tom Allen, And maybe
Speaker 1: this year is the year.
Speaker 2: So do this? Yeah, give me like the thirty to
Speaker 2: forty five second abridged version of who underperformed so far?
Speaker 2: At least?
Speaker 1: Yeah, USC maybe with all of their hysteria off field,
Speaker 1: on field their class is usually top five. They look
Speaker 1: to be like top twenty Ish Auburn, Ohio State both
Speaker 1: like top fourteen, fifteen, but we're used to seeing them
Speaker 1: more like top two to six. Seven. Florida does not
Speaker 1: appear to have closed in super strong fashion. TCU. I'm
Speaker 1: used to seeing in a top twenty twenty five way,
Speaker 1: and they're not there. Miami just I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the way they closed the season, but offensively, especially
Speaker 1: a disappointing class. Oklahoma stateium used to seeing higher, and
Speaker 1: I get because of the way Chip Kelly approaches recruiting
Speaker 1: and not always star chasing, but still given his location
Speaker 1: and the talent, he should and the Bruins should be
Speaker 1: able to attract in LA not an impressive class, but
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe these are just all of the
Speaker 1: right three stars.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Okay, So that's a
Speaker 2: primer for what we're looking at. It sets up obviously
Speaker 2: a longer recruiting cycle. There's going to be more to
Speaker 2: come on this. There might be more to come this
Speaker 2: week on this, but at a minimum, that's what we're
Speaker 2: looking at right now. You know, the top ten things
Speaker 2: are shaping up to look very strong again for a
Speaker 2: lot of the usual suspects.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see. By the way, in just naming
Speaker 1: those teams, there's one of those teams that stands out
Speaker 1: to me, and that's Ohio State because of the coaching
Speaker 1: transition and Ryan Day has himself a probably stressful nerve
Speaker 1: racking January ahead. I don't know what the size of
Speaker 1: their class looks like right now and how many spots
Speaker 1: are still open, but I'm sure they're going to look
Speaker 1: to close pretty strong.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that because news broke again
Speaker 2: not too long after we hit the stop button. Yes,
Speaker 2: that justin Fields, the former top quarterback, former top player,
Speaker 2: I guess in the twenty eighteen class is shockingly going
Speaker 2: to transfer out of Georgia. I remember we both talked
Speaker 2: about it when he committed behind Jake fromm that this
Speaker 2: might not be a long term situation. He played in
Speaker 2: a number of games this year, so the red shirt's
Speaker 2: gone for him at least at Georgia. But I heard
Speaker 2: Ohio State is sort of the front runner because of
Speaker 2: Ryan Day. I'd be very interested to see if that
Speaker 2: is ultimately where he ends up up there in Columbus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would make a ton of sense, given a
Speaker 1: potential opening with Dwayne Haskins perhaps looking at the NFL.
Speaker 1: And even so, a lot of the thinking is, well,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields would have to sidout a year anyway. But
Speaker 1: there is another line of thinking that he could apply
Speaker 1: for the hardship type waiver that got Shaye Patterson eligible
Speaker 1: immediately at Michigan if he alludes to And this is
Speaker 1: our friend Andy Staples writing writing this about the incident
Speaker 1: that took place with the Georgia baseball player yelling out
Speaker 1: some pretty awful things to Justin Fields and just on
Speaker 1: the Georgia sideline, to the Georgia sideline in general. So
Speaker 1: perhaps that situation comes up, but certainly there will be
Speaker 1: no shortage of God everyone Justin Fields his talent correct,
Speaker 1: So whether it's Alabama or Oklahoma or Ohio State or whoever,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm curious about Florida State. I'm curious
Speaker 1: about Mississippi State because of Joe Moore. Sure, Penn State
Speaker 1: was in the running for Fields for a while and
Speaker 1: there was a relationship there that I think formed through
Speaker 1: the recruiting process between Fields and Joe moorehead. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it happened.
Speaker 2: It's obviously tough to beat out a school like in
Speaker 2: Ohio State or some of these big players, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't count Mississippi State out. No.
Speaker 1: And on that same note, I don't know what his
Speaker 1: relationship now is with James Franklin because he was committed
Speaker 1: to Penn State. The Nine Lions have no shortage of
Speaker 1: incredible skill talent right now and look to be yeah,
Speaker 1: in the next few years. You know this is it's
Speaker 1: a long term play with the guys that they have there,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Ricky Slat or Justin Shorter kJ Hamler.
Speaker 1: So a pretty ideal situation for a school without a
Speaker 1: sure thing quarterback of the future. So Justin Fields will
Speaker 1: We'll have a lot of interest come his way.
Speaker 2: Also, justin Field's transferring out, but Khalil Tate staying put.
Speaker 2: There was some scuttle butt that he might decide to
Speaker 2: go elsewhere, but he will be staying at Arizona Dan
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 1: For sure would have been that name, perhaps even more
Speaker 1: so given that he has shown an incredible amount on
Speaker 1: the field already as a transfer if he were to transfer.
Speaker 2: We've got some deck glorations as well. None of these
Speaker 2: are going to come as a huge surprise. Benny Snell,
Speaker 2: Devin Bush from Michigan, Mike Weber from Ohio State, Sutton Smith.
Speaker 2: We have Andre James going pro as well, So a
Speaker 2: few more names tackle, yeah, to add to that list
Speaker 2: of guys leaving early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, I think a lot will happen
Speaker 1: as we get closer to some of the bigger bowls,
Speaker 1: as guys weigh their future and perhaps get evaluations back
Speaker 1: and see what the NFL thinks of them in my
Speaker 1: first round pick of my top three round whatever, So
Speaker 1: we will we will stay on top of that. But no,
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those comes as huge surprises.
Speaker 1: I did see Rashaun Gary is starting his own sports
Speaker 1: agency or something. Okay, he had already declared at Michigan,
Speaker 1: but had always come across as a super bright dude.
Speaker 1: So interesting to see how something like that works out.
Speaker 1: I'm sure more will come out about it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Michigan closes strong even with some of these big losses.
Speaker 1: I saw Aubrey Solomon, their five star signee from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, who had gotten who has been
Speaker 1: pretty beat up. He announced that he's transferring. So Michigan's
Speaker 1: defense will certainly look more and more different as we
Speaker 1: move forward.
Speaker 2: That's all I have in the way of news, Dan,
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we need to cover before
Speaker 2: we get into it?
Speaker 1: Ty, why don't you drop that big? Just play the
Speaker 1: bowll intro music.
Speaker 2: That's fine, Dan, So I know I promised a new sound.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Nope, still waiting.
Speaker 2: I have failed the verbowler hood again. But we got
Speaker 2: games to talk about.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 2: We got games to talk about. So I saw that
Speaker 2: UAB Swab had a big win, so hopefully, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: folks picked you would be in the Blazers to.
Speaker 1: I screwed that up. Yeah yeah you did, and I
Speaker 1: really shouldn't have. U AB was using my tried and
Speaker 1: true formula, essentially the no brainer, easier pick.
Speaker 2: So we've got a handfull of games here that we're
Speaker 2: going to go through tonight. This is Bowl Preview number three.
Speaker 2: We're gonna start with the Serve Pro first responderble Dan.
Speaker 2: They play this one at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.
Speaker 2: I think formally this was the heart of Dallas Bowl
Speaker 2: if memory serves. This one is on the day after Christmas.
Speaker 1: This is outside. This is the outdoor Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's yes, background, Yes, so I guess Boxing day for
Speaker 2: some folks who are into such things. Okay, it's on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Boston College at seven five boys, he stayed at ten
Speaker 2: and three. The Broncos are three point favorite. Here's what
Speaker 2: we got in the way of gifts for this game.
Speaker 2: And get a big game football which whatever, nice little souvenir.
Speaker 2: Get an RFID blocking ridge wallet. What do you what
Speaker 2: do you know about this here device? Dan, the RFID
Speaker 2: blocking ridge wallet.
Speaker 1: I have no I'm looking at I'm googling as we speak.
Speaker 1: What does it?
Speaker 2: So? Here is the deal. Okay, there are some credit
Speaker 2: cards that you can get that will I shouldn't be
Speaker 2: giving all this away. I don't want to give State
Speaker 2: secrets away. People ready are on to me, Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that like, so you can just hold up
Speaker 1: your wallet.
Speaker 2: Well, there are some there are some credit cards that
Speaker 2: you have that will emit an electronic signal via RFID.
Speaker 2: And if people have if if if scammers have the
Speaker 2: necessary equipment and they can get close enough to your
Speaker 2: wallet or to your card, they can essentially skim some
Speaker 2: of your personal data. Then they can use it on
Speaker 2: the dark web. They can buy stuff on Amazon. I
Speaker 2: am here today to tell you that that's a little scamble.
Speaker 2: It is a notable Okay, this is not a very
Speaker 2: prevalent thing that our stars of tomorrow need to worry about.
Speaker 1: Yes, and this is it's Boston College, Boise State in Dallas.
Speaker 1: And again you mentioned it. There is a gift suite. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we did get an email from oh somebody, we did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will drop this right here. We got an email
Speaker 1: from somebody who I won't give out his name, but
Speaker 1: he used to work for a bowl you would recognize.
Speaker 2: Sources day, We have sources.
Speaker 1: Sources. He has given us the skinny on on gift suites.
Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say. Each guy is
Speaker 1: given seven points.
Speaker 2: This is for his the game that he worked for
Speaker 2: sent through to solid verbal at ProtonMail dot com. High Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Each guy has given seven points and there are
Speaker 1: dozens of different items ranging in value from one to
Speaker 1: seven points, and they can split the points up however
Speaker 1: they'd like. There's all kinds of stuff like electronics, appliances, sunglasses, guitars, recliners.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool to see them act like kids in
Speaker 1: a candy store. To be terribly cliched, a lot of
Speaker 1: players will use it as an opportunity to get Christmas
Speaker 1: gifts for their family that we've talked about that is smart,
Speaker 1: which is really awesome. The big dudes seem to go
Speaker 1: for the recliners a lot. Can't blame them. No, we
Speaker 1: did have a team try to tell their guys they
Speaker 1: couldn't the recliners because the equipment staff didn't want to
Speaker 1: deal with them. I also understand that equipment staff lost
Speaker 1: the battle. I know the gift suite doesn't sound as
Speaker 1: cool as everyone getting a Bluetooth speaker bar, but they
Speaker 1: can get one if that's what they want. It was
Speaker 1: always a lot of fun to see the videos of
Speaker 1: the guys going through it and making their choices.
Speaker 2: So Okay, that's cool, So maybe we need to reevaluate then.
Speaker 1: I would imagine most gifts suite gift sweet gifting is
Speaker 1: pretty standardized with your your upper and lower tiers.
Speaker 2: There was also a tweet that somebody forwarded to us
Speaker 2: that I believe showed Texas going through their gift suite.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, so decent game. Boston College, Bois, I love
Speaker 1: me some Bronco.
Speaker 2: I do too. I like them to the tune of
Speaker 2: thirty seven points woo. Boise's a little better on defense,
Speaker 2: but a lot better on offense. In case you're wondering,
Speaker 2: it is Brett Rippens's final game as quarterback, which is
Speaker 2: a nice feel good story for the Broncos. Keep in mind,
Speaker 2: Dan Boise one what seven? I want to say seven
Speaker 2: in a row before losing to Fresno. Right, And on
Speaker 2: the flip side, Boston College lost their last three and
Speaker 2: their offense was really bad down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Boston College was a mess in November. Boise State,
Speaker 1: I still like a good deal. I think Brett Rippen
Speaker 1: goes out really nicely. I can't imagine wather It's gonna
Speaker 1: play a huge role, he says, as he doesn't look
Speaker 1: at the forecast. There's probably ice and sleet everywhere, but
Speaker 1: I like Boise to the tune of thirty confidence points.
Speaker 1: We agree.
Speaker 2: Moving on also on Wednesday, Boxing Day, Dan, let's go
Speaker 2: to the Quiplane Bowl, Ford Field neat Venue in Detroit.
Speaker 2: It's on ESPN. Got the Minnesota Golden Gophers at six
Speaker 2: and six versus Georgia Tech at seven and five. Tech
Speaker 2: is a six point favorite. It's Paul Johnson's final game.
Speaker 2: Yes it is, he is retiring. He layer on top
Speaker 2: of that the fact that Danell Green, the big offensive
Speaker 2: tackle for Minnesota, signed with an agent. He's not going
Speaker 2: to play in this game. Okay, the layer on top
Speaker 2: of that the fact that Minnesota has really struggled, and
Speaker 2: I mean really struggled against the run this season. They
Speaker 2: give up a lot of big plays on the ground.
Speaker 2: None of that strikes me as a great formula for
Speaker 2: success here for the Golden Gophers. So for as much
Speaker 2: as I like them, for as much as I like
Speaker 2: their their their their their pluckiness. Oh there it is,
Speaker 2: I gotta go Georgia Tech to the tune of thirty
Speaker 2: six confidence points.
Speaker 1: To whoa I think I made? Dissagree? Really, Yes, the
Speaker 1: Gophers were bad on defense for a majority of the season,
Speaker 1: but it's been a different look defense since they fired
Speaker 1: Rob Smith earlier on in November, and Georgia Tech's defense
Speaker 1: is pretty awful. And far be it for me to
Speaker 1: beck against Paul Johnson in his final game. But I
Speaker 1: actually think I am going to go with Minnesota, even
Speaker 1: though there's not going to be a weather advantage because
Speaker 1: it's indoors at Ford Field, it's much more local to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So I'm on with the Gophers here. I expect a
Speaker 1: decent enough game from this Minnesota offense. I have them
Speaker 1: winning thirty three to thirty one, and I'm going Gopher
Speaker 1: and Tidd. Tell everybody what Paul Johnson is walking away with?
Speaker 2: Paul Johnson walking away from the sport of college football,
Speaker 2: at least for now, one hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 2: Best Buy gift card a JBL set of E fifty
Speaker 2: five BT over ear wireless headphones. I'm assuming BT stands
Speaker 2: for Bluetooth Dan.
Speaker 1: I would assume, So okay, that seems like a good gift.
Speaker 2: A life sized fat head decal for each participant of
Speaker 2: his likeness. Does this mean that Paul Johnson's going to
Speaker 2: get a Paul Johnson decal that he could put somewhere
Speaker 2: in his man cab.
Speaker 1: Oh, we can only hope, and we can only hope
Speaker 1: it's a scowl.
Speaker 2: What would john wife? What would your wife say? Dan?
Speaker 2: If you had a home with a big old man
Speaker 2: cave or really just some big prominent wall. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: on that wall you put a fat head of your
Speaker 2: own face.
Speaker 1: I can I can actually speak to this very specifically
Speaker 1: and realistically because at an old job I had, an
Speaker 1: old video show I did on the set was essentially
Speaker 1: a fat head of my face smiling. So the only
Speaker 1: thing I can say about it is as somebody who
Speaker 1: enjoys attention, I loved it. I loved it. It was
Speaker 1: great to have around. And in that office in the
Speaker 1: kitchen which big company, there were small, little polaroid type
Speaker 1: pictures of everybody with their name on it. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is Kristin, Oh this is Brad whatever. And one
Speaker 1: day I decided to just you know, we're talking about
Speaker 1: two to three inch polaroid type pictures, and I brought
Speaker 1: in my three foot giant head and taped it to
Speaker 1: the wall. Never felt prouder, tie, Okay, never felt prouder.
Speaker 1: So what I can tell you Minnesota and Georgia tech
Speaker 1: players getting personalized fatheads is it's gonna be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, life size fathead decal.
Speaker 1: Would you get one of your your head? You could
Speaker 1: you put it in the studio and have I mean,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's too much in your studio.
Speaker 2: I don't know if fathead listens, but listen if if
Speaker 2: they want to send us a fat head of you,
Speaker 2: and I sure, I do have a wall where I
Speaker 2: could put it as a backdrop. It would actually have.
Speaker 1: A high resolution photograph that you'd be willing to use.
Speaker 2: I could take one.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fat out look us up. Also a backpack, shirts,
Speaker 2: mini helmet, football, the usual kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But this whole Boxing Day as we go through Boxing
Speaker 1: Day era of these bowl games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real strong.
Speaker 1: We're getting into a real strong session of gifting right here.
Speaker 2: Of gifting, yes, maybe not so much. Forget the games
Speaker 2: in the way of games, because we're about to talk
Speaker 2: about the cheese at bowld In. I'm ready chee it
Speaker 2: bull Chase Field in Phoenix, also on Boxing Day, Dan
Speaker 2: mm hmm, ESPN. We've got cal at seven and five,
Speaker 2: We've got TCU at six and six. It's to pick them.
Speaker 2: Even Vegas doesn't know who's gonna win this game. Here's
Speaker 2: what they're getting to participate in this game. We should
Speaker 2: start with this because the game's probably gonna be trash.
Speaker 2: Fair to say, well, if everybody who liked and loved
Speaker 2: and explained how that nine to six Alabama LSU game
Speaker 2: was real football, you gotta tune into the cheese At
Speaker 2: Ball Folks. Tune into the cheese At Bowl because it's
Speaker 2: a later game on Boxing Day, day after Christmas. Tune
Speaker 2: in because the commercials will probably be funny. I love
Speaker 2: the cheese At commercials. Dan Okay, a fossil watch with
Speaker 2: engraved case back Okaya, a JBL Charge three Bluetooth speaker
Speaker 2: great a Bag O Bag Toss tailgate cornhole set not bad.
Speaker 1: That sounds fine.
Speaker 2: A Yetti Roady twenty cooler, a Yetti Rambler, a dry
Speaker 2: Duffel bag, a Roomy I Guess, Roomy Reveal court bag
Speaker 2: branded Bill's Cap, Dollar Shave Club Starter set, and a
Speaker 2: Dollar Shave is not a sponsor this show, but they
Speaker 2: are a sponsor of the Cheese It Bowl, so we
Speaker 2: do need to mention them. No gift suite here, which
Speaker 2: is notable, but it seems like a relatively good selection
Speaker 2: here of gifts for the participants.
Speaker 1: You got a Bluetooth speaker, you get cornhole, you get
Speaker 1: both a cooler and a yetti rambler. This is this
Speaker 1: is incredible. This is a great suite.
Speaker 2: I like that the cheese At Bowl has laid its
Speaker 2: cards on the table.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. And if you're going to the cheese It Bowl,
Speaker 1: eat at a place that serves really good cheese and
Speaker 1: that is Pizzeria Bianco, really good, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: pizza places in America. I also tie have loaded up
Speaker 1: because I don't have much to say about this defensive
Speaker 1: battle other than I think cal might win because TCU's
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is a disaster. Not that Cal's isn't, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have food and wine. That's such
Speaker 1: how much I'm caring.
Speaker 2: Very dismissive. I love it. I feel the same.
Speaker 1: This is this is the top ten taste tested cheese
Speaker 1: it flavors from food and wine. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're a cheese it enthusiasts, I love cheese it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've tried the various options.
Speaker 2: Got to be white cheddar number one.
Speaker 1: Number ten, zesty cheddar, ranch.
Speaker 2: Ridged No, no, not for me.
Speaker 1: Food and wine says a bit too ranchy.
Speaker 2: Yeah them, Everyone who tries the ranch flavoring is a
Speaker 2: bit too ranchy. Have you ever noticed that?
Speaker 1: I do notice that hot? Well, I think cooler ranch
Speaker 1: gets it right.
Speaker 2: Do you ever try the ranch flavored David Sunflower seeds.
Speaker 1: No, you were baseball player, so you had more access.
Speaker 2: That represents rock bottom in the ranch flavoring industry. Just tear.
Speaker 1: Hot and spicy cheese, it's.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Have you had them?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know they tried that.
Speaker 1: One of their reviewers said, not spicy at all, very
Speaker 1: tabascoe and vinegary. Doesn't appeal to me. No, I like spicy.
Speaker 1: I don't like that big cheese.
Speaker 2: It's that's a flavor.
Speaker 1: I mean, just it's an option. It's all the Yes,
Speaker 1: technically big is a flavor. Oh, number seven is original,
Speaker 1: which real hard hard to fight with the classic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: number six made with whole grain. Hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I just if you're gonna get a cheese,
Speaker 1: it go for the full cheese at experience.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not eating cheese. It's to be healthy, right.
Speaker 1: That's true. I agree with all. Like I don't get
Speaker 1: wheat tortillas. If you're not gonna get a tortilla, don't
Speaker 1: get a to don't don't get fake tortillas. Okay, Grooves
Speaker 1: original cheddar so a more ridged, grooved appearance.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the great groove versus non
Speaker 1: groove debate of eighteen?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever had the groove cheese.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, they're ahead of the original.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I mean I'm pro, I'm pro grooves. Okay, with
Speaker 2: that cheddar jack? Hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So there's apparently something called duos with u ze because
Speaker 1: of cheese, it cheddar jack and hallapeno.
Speaker 2: No, no, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Number two, this might be your number one. Number two
Speaker 1: is their grooves sharp white.
Speaker 2: Cheddar Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, buddy.
Speaker 1: And their number one is duos caramel popcorn and come on,
Speaker 1: have you had those? No? I mean no way. One
Speaker 1: of the reviews is come on, I wanted to hate this.
Speaker 1: I did not, which I can appreciate. Are here's here's
Speaker 1: the ending. Here's the epilogue of our cheese At reviewing. Again,
Speaker 1: not a sponsor. No, we just like snacks are cheese.
Speaker 1: It's a dippable cracker or must they be? No, they're dippable. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're dippable. What will you dip it?
Speaker 2: Cheese? It in? Could dip it? Maybe in like some hummus?
Speaker 1: Okay, a French onion dip? Or is that too much?
Speaker 2: No, you could do that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'd be worried about.
Speaker 2: I think you could do that, all right? Ty?
Speaker 1: The Independence Bowl?
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I didn't pick a winner.
Speaker 1: Oh what do you like? I like Cal? It's a pig.
Speaker 1: Who do you like?
Speaker 2: Nine points on col?
Speaker 1: I have this relatively low as well.
Speaker 2: Hopefully Cal and TCU folks won't be offended by us
Speaker 2: doing a full cheese at review. But to be honest,
Speaker 2: that is more entertaining than the game.
Speaker 1: The least favorite, so this is number sixteen. I only
Speaker 1: did top ten. The least favorite was Italian four cheese
Speaker 1: like if you screw up that, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be you have extra toasty in there, bacon and cheddar,
Speaker 1: hot and spicy cheddar, cheddar, jack and sharp cheddar pretz.
Speaker 2: See here's here's my problem with this though, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: my problem is that the the litter name of the product.
Speaker 1: Is cheese it right, not cheese them right.
Speaker 2: It is cheese it right. So you would think that
Speaker 2: you should have the market cornered on all things cheese
Speaker 2: flavored cheese. It is the name of the product. Why
Speaker 2: are they trying ranch? Why are they trying hollopeen, it's.
Speaker 1: A ranch cheddar tye.
Speaker 2: Get out of here. They should banish that ranch flavor.
Speaker 2: I like ranch dressing, but they should banish trying to
Speaker 2: put ranch on things where it doesn't belong.
Speaker 1: I like that. You're a snack puris. We've been doing
Speaker 1: the show for ten years and I never knew that.
Speaker 2: I think I am Okay. Where are we at walk
Speaker 2: On's Independence Ball. Yes, this is not Boxing Day. This
Speaker 2: is on Thursday, the twenty seventh. It's at Shreveport Independence Stadium.
Speaker 2: They get a gift suite, a timely watch. Hello, old friend, Hey,
Speaker 2: a new era skull cap. Do you own a skull cap?
Speaker 1: I mean, I own Beanies. I don't think i'd sign
Speaker 1: anything that tight. Now I do have a skull cap.
Speaker 1: It's a little weird.
Speaker 2: For me into football, it is a game between Temple
Speaker 2: and Duke. Temple is a four point favorite. Who you got?
Speaker 1: I'm going with Temple here. I can count on more
Speaker 1: even without Jeff Collins. I really like this Temple team
Speaker 1: against the pass, which is where Duke really thrives. And
Speaker 1: there's just a lot more to like about how complete
Speaker 1: the Owls looked. By the end of the season. They
Speaker 1: were scoring on everybody, they were stopping teams. I thought
Speaker 1: Jeff Collins did a tremendous job, and just what was
Speaker 1: there two years? Yeah, you did a great job with
Speaker 1: the Owls. So I think that travels to Shreveport. So
Speaker 1: give me Temple here. I will give you the confidence
Speaker 1: after I get, after I shuttle past the cheese at
Speaker 1: tab I am going to go with. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: Temple at Did I close the window?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: It is just remarkable.
Speaker 2: I have Temple at nineteen. Well you find pretty good?
Speaker 2: Why you find, George, I have Temple at nineteen Why, Well,
Speaker 2: they lost their head coach, so they to your point, okay,
Speaker 2: they lost their head coach. But did you happen to
Speaker 2: see the clip of their interim coach?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Indeed he was and fully is his name. He is
Speaker 2: very excitable. Yeah, he is pumped. I only haven't sat
Speaker 2: nine points on nine points, Okay. He's very pumped to
Speaker 2: be in Treeport for this game and very optimistic about
Speaker 2: his team's chances. Temple's better on offense and defense. They're
Speaker 2: really good against the pass, which I don't know if
Speaker 2: we'll see that here, but uh, I just found myself
Speaker 2: looking at this saying, what is what is Duke good at?
Speaker 2: What are they other than playing basketball? Really? What is
Speaker 2: Duke good at?
Speaker 1: This game actually really is a hell of a nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three John Cheney coach, keg it is right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Nineteen for Temple. Okaye, were the new era Pinstripe Bowl.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: much here because I'm gonna lean on your expertise. Is
Speaker 1: that an in stripe Bowl?
Speaker 2: Alum? That's right? That's right. Thursday the twenty seventh, on ESPN,
Speaker 2: we got Miami at seven and five versus Wisconsin at
Speaker 2: seven and five. Miami, I think I have it a
Speaker 2: four point favorite here. There are no favorites in this game, Dan,
Speaker 2: These are two teams that I think both are ready
Speaker 2: willing and able to just get the whole season over
Speaker 2: with this point. They both get a variety of new
Speaker 2: Era products, which I think is actually better than meets
Speaker 2: the eye. That's a cool gift.
Speaker 1: And it might be an incomplete listing as well.
Speaker 2: It might be incomplete. I think the limit is like
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars, so there probably is something else otherwise.
Speaker 2: That's a full on hat rack dog.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. I like Miami because I at this
Speaker 1: point feel like their defense is the best thing that
Speaker 1: will be on the field. Just Wisconsin and Miami really,
Speaker 1: both of them are in a state of just wanting
Speaker 1: to move forward and get to twenty nineteen. I saw
Speaker 1: Miami lost a quarterback today who they were counting on
Speaker 1: for depth or to compete perhaps for the job next
Speaker 1: year with Nikosey Perry, and he is not going to
Speaker 1: be playing for the Canes anymore. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: a down matchup. I'm going with Miami because the defense,
Speaker 1: and if you happen to be coming into town for
Speaker 1: this game and you're making your way way uptown to
Speaker 1: the Bronx, may I suggest stopping in East Harlem. That's right,
Speaker 1: it's like one hundred and sixteenth Street. Taco Mix has
Speaker 1: maybe my favorite Alpas star in New York. Tacos really
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go Wisconsin. Give me a
Speaker 2: comment here. I'm Wisconsin. I'll say seventeen.
Speaker 1: I have Miami at nineteen. Okay, we disagree, not too much.
Speaker 2: The Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl at the NRG
Speaker 2: NRG Stadium in Houston. It's also on Thursday on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Baylor at six and six, Vandy at six and six.
Speaker 2: The Commodores are a four point favorite. They get a
Speaker 2: gift suite, they get a gift card to Academy Sports
Speaker 2: and Outdoors. They get an Adidas back back in. Of course,
Speaker 2: you need to get the belt buckle if you're going
Speaker 2: to Texas Dan ohways. I think if you like Baylor here,
Speaker 2: it's because this is a scrappy and plucky team and
Speaker 2: they are getting better. They're basically playing a home game here,
Speaker 2: which would you like HM On the flip side, if
Speaker 2: you like Vandy, I think it's because they're better on
Speaker 2: offense and defense and they don't choose themselves in the foot,
Speaker 2: which if you go through and look at the numbers
Speaker 2: for Baylor, they're very mistake prone, turnover margin not great.
Speaker 2: I like Vandy. I like Vandy a lot here twenty
Speaker 2: four points. Give me, give me the doors.
Speaker 1: For all the reasons you stated. I like Vandy. He
Speaker 1: or Baylor a lot of struggling giving up bigger plays
Speaker 1: on defense. So I'm going with the Doors. And if
Speaker 1: you happen to be in the Houston area going to
Speaker 1: this game, it looks like the weather's not going to
Speaker 1: be great. It's indoors, even though it says it's the
Speaker 1: outdoors Texas Bawl, the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Ball.
Speaker 1: Inside the nerd, find yourself some viet Cajun. I think
Speaker 1: there's a place called Crawfish and Noodles. So they take
Speaker 1: Vietnamese food and they take that buy you Cajun food.
Speaker 1: They combine it. There are a couple different places. Warm
Speaker 1: yourself up with some Viat Cajun.
Speaker 2: That leaves us dan with December the twenty eighth. Now,
Speaker 2: if you listen to our last show, you'll know that
Speaker 2: we're both pretty gung ho yeah about this three games
Speaker 2: slate that we've got On the twenty eighth, We'll start
Speaker 2: with the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl. They played
Speaker 2: at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. It's on play right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's with the Titans. Play. It's between Perdue at six
Speaker 2: and six in Auburn at seven and five. The Tigers
Speaker 2: are a four point favorite. They get a gift suite
Speaker 2: and fossil watch. Now, listen, listen. Here's where I'm going
Speaker 2: to get a little crazy. I don't think you know
Speaker 2: my rules. I don't think Auburn gives a damn about
Speaker 2: this game. I think it's a huge letdown to be
Speaker 2: playing Perdue.
Speaker 1: But did they think they were going to be going
Speaker 1: to anything for November? Don't. It's not like Auburn lost.
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I not the verge of something.
Speaker 2: I know. Maybe I am overthinking this, Okay, I am
Speaker 2: prone to doing such things, but I just I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that if you're Auburn, you really give
Speaker 2: a damn about playing Perdue in Nashville in late December.
Speaker 2: So I'm not putting much on this, but I'm actually
Speaker 2: going to go Purdue to the tune of two confidence
Speaker 2: points here. I think it means more to them. I
Speaker 2: think retaining Jeff Brohm, at least for another season's a
Speaker 2: big deal. Purdue was scrappy. You know they're going to
Speaker 2: play hard in this game even if they do end
Speaker 2: up losing. So I'm gonna press my luck and say
Speaker 2: Boiler Makers outright here over Auburn.
Speaker 1: Wow. I think I disagree Purdue away from West Lafayette.
Speaker 1: I know they showed out really nicely last year, and
Speaker 1: I believe whatever it was last year, maybe the Foster
Speaker 1: Farms Bowl out west in the Bay Area against Arizona,
Speaker 1: scored a bunch of points. I think I like Auburn here.
Speaker 1: I think with time, with game planning. I know they
Speaker 1: came out flat last year when they were disappointed to
Speaker 1: be playing UCF and I believe the Peach Bowl, but
Speaker 1: I think they show up. I think they're able to
Speaker 1: move the ball reasonably enough. Jared Stidham is he playing.
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive he is.
Speaker 2: I know he.
Speaker 1: Declared for the draft. Yeah, I believe so. Jared Stidham
Speaker 1: has a lot more to prove than a lot of
Speaker 1: players who have decided to skip bowl games because his
Speaker 1: stock has fallen off with the season he's had. I
Speaker 1: think the Purdue defense can be had, so I like
Speaker 1: Auburn here. I like Auburn to win this by seven
Speaker 1: to nine points. And my confidence level with Auburn right
Speaker 1: now is very low.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, that's the thing, right one point. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Whether or not you're picking Auburn, it's still, I think
Speaker 2: a game where you're not going to put a lot
Speaker 2: of confidence because this has been a tough team to
Speaker 2: try and project really the full way through. The losses
Speaker 2: aren't bad losses. It just doesn't feel like they ever
Speaker 2: quite reach their potential here. Certainly, the running game wasn't
Speaker 2: there all year. I think at a very basic level,
Speaker 2: Auburn's defense and particularly their defensive front is a lot better.
Speaker 2: But man, I don't know. I'm not sure if your
Speaker 2: motivation is there.
Speaker 1: Here's the great news. Nashville is an excellent place to visit,
Speaker 1: to hang out, to see the sites, to eat. Go
Speaker 1: to Husk. They have a great lunch. You can get
Speaker 1: a probably my favorite burger in America. At home, I.
Speaker 2: Always talk up this Husk burger.
Speaker 1: I love Husk. I've been to the one in Charleston
Speaker 1: and the one in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I went with our pal Travis Haney a few months
Speaker 1: ago when I was in Nashville. You can get fried
Speaker 1: chicken at lunch as well. I did some damage. Go
Speaker 1: to Princes. If you want the true thing, the hot
Speaker 1: chicken in Nashville, don't get the extra hot. I would
Speaker 1: not even know. I would not even get I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would even do medium. I just it's
Speaker 1: going to ruin you for a couple of days. Also,
Speaker 1: this sounds cliched, it sounds obvious, But when I was
Speaker 1: there and I hadn't really spent time there, I went
Speaker 1: to the Country Music Hall of Fame and museum, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it ruled time. Really, it was so fun. It
Speaker 1: was so cool. I'm not a fan of country music
Speaker 1: at all. But they had all of like the bedazzled
Speaker 1: cacti onesies that you know these Hopolong guys wore in
Speaker 1: the forties. They had Elvis's cars that a lot of
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton stuff. It was spectacular, neat. It's enormous in downtown.
Speaker 1: You can't miss it. I strongly recommend it if you're
Speaker 1: going to the Music City Bowl or you're just in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Also on Friday, it's the Camping World Bowl Danic Camping
Speaker 2: World Stadium in Orlando, Florida. It's on ESPN, It's West Virginia.
Speaker 2: It's Syracuse. West Virginia currently a one and a half
Speaker 2: point favorite. Here's what you need to know. Will Greer
Speaker 2: not playing. Also, their big left tackle Yodney could just
Speaker 2: not playing either for the Mountaineers. So two key pieces
Speaker 2: are are gonna be out against a team in Syracuse
Speaker 2: that I gotta believe is going to be fired up
Speaker 2: as hell. Sure is a big deal. They won nine
Speaker 2: games this year. It's grungy Eric Dungee's final game. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go cues here. I've been teasing this since I
Speaker 2: think before we even started doing our Bowl previews. But
Speaker 2: I think they've got an axe to grind, They've got
Speaker 2: something to prove here, and this is a pretty big
Speaker 2: stage for them. This is a nice game to go
Speaker 2: from Syracuse to Orlando in December.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 2: Gimme cues, give me them with a reasonable level of confidence,
Speaker 2: like eighteen points.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna list all of the good things that happen
Speaker 1: in Orlando right now. You see a football, all right?
Speaker 1: That is the entirety. I haven't been to Disney World.
Speaker 1: I've been to Disneyland, and I do like Disneyland, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Orlando's not great.
Speaker 2: I will it's better than Syracuse in late December. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, you're a big weather guy.
Speaker 1: I know that's fair. I like Syracuse a lot here
Speaker 1: as well, and it's because I like their defense a lot.
Speaker 1: I love that this is the final game for grungieric
Speaker 1: Dungee and a lot of that talent on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball really has has impressed over the course
Speaker 1: of this season. A chance to get to ten games
Speaker 1: West Virginia with their with their backup quarterback, another Miami
Speaker 1: transfer in Jack Allison. Curious to see what he looks
Speaker 1: like a lot of skill position talent around him. But
Speaker 1: I'm going with QS here. I think they go to
Speaker 1: that level of stage, especially tye four hundred dollars best
Speaker 1: by gift card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, you can do some damage with that.
Speaker 1: I haven't been to a best Buy in three and
Speaker 1: a half years, seven years. I don't know the last time,
Speaker 1: but you probably spend it on best buy dot com.
Speaker 1: You're your old friend. An Ogo backpack yep, and a
Speaker 1: fossil Watch bad seems pretty decent to me. I'd be
Speaker 1: happy to go to the camping world.
Speaker 2: Bowl all right, and finally the Valero Alamo Bull at
Speaker 2: the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, also on Friday on ESPN.
Speaker 2: You're going to have to help me out with this one, Dan,
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I kind of backed myself into a corner
Speaker 2: where I figured out all the other games, and the
Speaker 2: only slot I have left is fourteen confidence points, which
Speaker 2: isn't an egregious amount to put on a game that
Speaker 2: you're not sure of. We've got Iowa State at eight
Speaker 2: and four, We've got Washington State at ten and two.
Speaker 2: Washington State is a three and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2: I am supremely on the fence here. I feel like
Speaker 2: Wazoo is the better team, They've been the better team
Speaker 2: all year, but Iowa State. Iowa State has the appropriate
Speaker 2: level of pluck to really keep my interest here. So
Speaker 2: of all the games that I think we're going to
Speaker 2: see on Friday the twenty eighth, this is one is
Speaker 2: the later game. This is the one that I am
Speaker 2: genuinely the most curious to see how it shakes out.
Speaker 2: Where where do you come down on this game? As
Speaker 2: a resident sort of packed twelve enthusiast.
Speaker 1: Washington State has been incredible to watch all year long
Speaker 1: love the Gardner Minshew story. In potentially most other years,
Speaker 1: I think he would be closer to Heisman consideration, at
Speaker 1: least until the Apple Cup. I think I like Iowa
Speaker 1: State here because of their defense. I think they are
Speaker 1: uniquely built in the way that they've handled big twelve
Speaker 1: teams to look at this Wazoo offense, which has been
Speaker 1: incredible all year long, and get some stops, not a
Speaker 1: lot of stops, in fact, maybe basically no stops. But
Speaker 1: I think they are constructed in such a way with
Speaker 1: Rock Purty showing out, with having you know, one of
Speaker 1: the best receiver duos, especially you know you have a
Speaker 1: keen Butler on your team, you are a threat at
Speaker 1: most moments to do damage. So I like Iowa State here.
Speaker 1: I like the way that they came out last year.
Speaker 1: I believe they took down Memphis in their bowl game
Speaker 1: last year. So I think they're constructed in such a
Speaker 1: way that they'll have enough success against Wazoo. I have
Speaker 1: them winning a shootout. I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: the sound available to you on the soundboard, but something
Speaker 1: in the range of forty seven to forty two. I
Speaker 1: have Iowa State, and my confidence level is ju ju
Speaker 1: ju ju twenty not bad, pretty.
Speaker 2: Solid fourteen points. I'm going to agree agree with you
Speaker 2: on a situation. Four hundred and twenty five dollars Amazon card.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, TI. If you are struggling
Speaker 1: to figure out what to get somebody for a big
Speaker 1: event that gifts are expected a wedding, some something, graduation,
Speaker 1: nobody doesn't like receiving an Amazon gift card.
Speaker 2: Here is the one gripe that I've heard about the
Speaker 2: Amazon card.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's a completely evil company.
Speaker 2: I've heard that. I forget that it's too impersonal of
Speaker 2: a gift for big opadians. I feel quite too people
Speaker 2: don't care. I feel to the contrary, that is usable
Speaker 2: US American currency that you can put into pretty much
Speaker 2: anything you want.
Speaker 1: It's an oh yeah gift where a lot of people
Speaker 1: are ordering stuff from Amazon, like, oh yeah, I've got
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks. Great cool.
Speaker 2: They also get a fossil watch, a mini team helmet,
Speaker 2: and a team panoramic photo, which is kind of cool
Speaker 2: to commemorate your almodome experience. I'm gonna go Iowa State.
Speaker 2: One thing that jumped out at me. I know, Iowa
Speaker 2: State isn't the most efficient team on the ground, but
Speaker 2: I think if they're going to do any damage against
Speaker 2: Washington State, they can do it on the ground. Certainly,
Speaker 2: they've got David Montgomery brock Party is quite mobile as
Speaker 2: a quarterback and has come into his own in the
Speaker 2: second half the season. So I'm gonna agree with you
Speaker 2: for all the reasons you stated. Plus I think they've
Speaker 2: got a better ground game here. Certainly they put more
Speaker 2: effort on the ground than Washington State does, So Iowa
Speaker 2: State fourteen points.
Speaker 1: I don't hate wazus backs, but yeah, we agree.
Speaker 2: So that's all we got here again to run through.
Speaker 2: Did a bunch of games here this evening, the Serve
Speaker 2: Pro First Responder Ball, Quick Lane Bowl, Cheese It Bowl,
Speaker 2: walk On's Independence Bowl, New Era Pinch Stripe Bowl, the
Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl, Franklin American Mortgage Music
Speaker 2: City Bowl, Camping World Bowl, and to close it out,
Speaker 2: the Valero Almo Bowl. Din Which means that on the
Speaker 2: next show we're going to be breaking down the playoff.
Speaker 1: So what are all of the matchups were doing for
Speaker 1: a Sunday's Show.
Speaker 2: On Sunday's Show, let me pull it up again here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got it. Notre Dame Clemson, the Cotton Bowl, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Alabama and your Orange Bowl. We've got the Chick fil
Speaker 1: A Peach Bowl Florida, Michigan, Belk Bowl, South Carolina Virginia.
Speaker 1: I believe that's an adam a mean game. Arkansas State,
Speaker 1: Nevada in the Arizona Bowl. We've got the Military Bowl Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, which I guess could be kind of interesting,
Speaker 1: Stanford pitt and the Sun Bowl, Michigan State, Oregon in
Speaker 1: the Red Box Bowl, and I think I'm going to
Speaker 1: get dinner in a halftime. Something else struck me, though Ty,
Speaker 1: because we talk about bowl gifts, and we talk about
Speaker 1: these matchups. What game is Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: In Notre Dame is in the Cotton Bowl Classic?
Speaker 1: And what is the most I'm hitting my standing desk
Speaker 1: famous Brian Kelly Bowl gift? Dy, we could get Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly in boots again. Oh no, we could get Sun
Speaker 1: Bull Brian Kelly. Isn't that where he wore them?
Speaker 2: Oh? God, not the boots.
Speaker 1: We could get some O'Brian Kelly. He already did like
Speaker 1: he did a rap pose like a month and a
Speaker 1: half ago, right, Kelly is not above posing well showing out.
Speaker 2: I don't know that for sure, because the Cotton Bowl
Speaker 2: Classic would not disclose. It was the only bowl int
Speaker 2: typical Notre Dame fashion. They're in the one bowl game
Speaker 2: that would not disclose what the gifts are.
Speaker 1: This is almost a corollary of Jimbo Fisher doing Texas
Speaker 1: things from our fantasy Things draft, yes, where he was
Speaker 1: introduced and he had boots, and he had a cowboy
Speaker 1: hat and he was on a horse. If we get
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly in boots, I'm going to freak the f
Speaker 1: out tie. I cannot wait to see what happens. Because
Speaker 1: they always do these introductory press conferences, you know, a
Speaker 1: few days ahead of time they're doing Texas stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to evolve, but I am
Speaker 1: just pointing out we could have Brian Kelly in boots
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: So we had a lot of folks who wrote into me.
Speaker 2: M more than one when I say a lot, yeah,
Speaker 2: A handful of folks right into me to ask if
Speaker 2: we would kindly put the names of the bulls that
Speaker 2: we are reviewing into description we can do.
Speaker 1: So that we say nay, we can do that, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: we can do that.
Speaker 2: Can't guarantee we can do the timestamp thing for every show,
Speaker 2: but certainly we could put the names of the bulls
Speaker 2: that we're previewing, or at least the range of bowl
Speaker 2: games that we're previewing in our description. Apologies if you're
Speaker 2: waiting for that and it hasn't happened yet, we'll do that. Also,
Speaker 2: as we've been mentioning here countless times, I feel we
Speaker 2: will be doing two shows a week through the end
Speaker 2: of the college football season. So Wednesday Sunday next week
Speaker 2: may be a bit of a different schedule, and the
Speaker 2: week after maybe a bit of a different schedule given
Speaker 2: the fact that we've got holidays to contend with. But
Speaker 2: nonetheless you can find two shows a week. If you're
Speaker 2: going to be traveling, we'll be there, the bus, training
Speaker 2: car plan, wherever you're going to be, there will be
Speaker 2: shows for you to listen to. So keep it tuned
Speaker 2: right here. Solid Verbal at gmail dot com, as always
Speaker 2: is our email. If you got something to say, please
Speaker 2: let us know. We've had myriad folks right in talking
Speaker 2: about the playoffs and what their ideals set up would
Speaker 2: be a lot of really cool emails coming in, so
Speaker 2: please do keep that up. We love to hear from people.
Speaker 1: And Bill Hancock sent us a note. I incredible and
Speaker 1: it is nonsensical. Have you done your holiday Christmas shopping?
Speaker 1: Are you all set with that? No?
Speaker 2: No, we're close to it. Actually, are you an in
Speaker 2: person shopper? I'm usually an online shopper, but I'm given
Speaker 2: the fact that it's sort of been a weird years
Speaker 2: has been previously discussed. Sure, I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be more of an in person situation this year.
Speaker 1: An in person situation. Yeah, because so you're going to
Speaker 1: go and really put a lot of thought and visual
Speaker 1: effort into it.
Speaker 2: That's right. The two day free shipping might be right
Speaker 2: up against limit. Yeah, given the fact that it's, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, look pretty late in the game here, So it.
Speaker 1: Does, it does? Solid Wife, Solid Wife, Kate. Listen to
Speaker 1: the show? No, God, No, is she in your house
Speaker 1: right now? She's not? So what are we thinking?
Speaker 2: I can't give it out away? Every We can't give
Speaker 2: that away. No.
Speaker 1: Are you a jewelry guy this year?
Speaker 2: We could be, It could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is she a jewelry person?
Speaker 2: Only if it's the right kind of jewelry.
Speaker 1: Okay, good answer. Are you a jewel Have you been
Speaker 1: gifted jewelry?
Speaker 2: Ever? I think some and gave me a necklace once. Whoa, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was very it was It might have been my
Speaker 2: grandmother when I was in my second grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's understandable. Yeah, okay, any other So who else
Speaker 1: is receiving gifts? So you've got to you got a
Speaker 1: big family.
Speaker 2: We do a big family. No, I mean all sides
Speaker 2: of the family.
Speaker 1: Mom H lessens. Don't say anything wrong here.
Speaker 2: I won't say anything wrong. But I have procured mom
Speaker 2: H's gifts. She's like, yeah, we've got.
Speaker 1: How proud are you of this year's gift as compared
Speaker 1: to previous year's gift? Out of a out of a
Speaker 1: proud Yeah, you're like, oh, she's gonna love this.
Speaker 2: I'm proud that I was early in purchasing it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Usually my my hair is on fire trying to get
Speaker 2: all the gifts in working order before you know, the
Speaker 2: big day. So the fact that I was this early
Speaker 2: with this gift is really a watershed moment for me personally.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, you know, we've we've got we've got
Speaker 2: a big, big family to contend with.
Speaker 1: Here walk because I if you don't remember your solid
Speaker 1: verbal lore right right, I believe you propose to now
Speaker 1: solid wife Kate on Christmas Day, Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: So this is this is a big, big holiday.
Speaker 2: It is a big holiday. No, we'll do the seven fishes.
Speaker 1: And mom, I've done that before, as somebody who doesn't
Speaker 1: even celebrate Christmas, I have had I've partaken in that.
Speaker 2: You know, there seven fishes on Christmas Eve, which is
Speaker 2: always a bit of an event. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: Are you guys doing that? The little the honey drizzled sprinkle,
Speaker 1: little little circle.
Speaker 2: Things, honey, I have no idea what that? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: ty Chris, I'm looking it up right now.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Oh, they were pretty good. They're very sweet,
Speaker 1: honey drizzled what so they're like little balls and they're
Speaker 1: covered there. It's like a honey drizzled balls. And they
Speaker 1: have those they're not sprinkles, but they're those little dots,
Speaker 1: those colorful dots. Come on, Tye drawing a blank. What
Speaker 1: are they called? I'm looking right now, Christmas dessert honey drizzled.
Speaker 1: Who that's not helping much. And there appears to be
Speaker 1: a woman who goes by. Oh there they are Strafoli,
Speaker 1: an Italian Christmas cap classic st r U F f
Speaker 1: O l I.
Speaker 2: No, you know, I've had those before, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to be part of part of the festivity.
Speaker 1: They're almost like tiny little donut holes. They're like smaller
Speaker 1: donut hole. Yeah, they're like little pieces of dough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're pretty good. Okay, so you're doing the Seven fishes?
Speaker 1: Are you opening presents under a tree Christmas morning? Christmas Eve?
Speaker 2: Not sure? Actually, it's usually usually Christmas Eve is the
Speaker 2: big one on mom H's side.
Speaker 1: You know what I've discovered, Tie, because I'm I'm super
Speaker 1: into everything about Christmas other than Christmas, right, I'm into it.
Speaker 1: There's a Spotify Christmas Cocktail Jazz playlist. Okay, Tie, it
Speaker 1: is killer. Yeah, listen to that. Put on a I'd like,
Speaker 1: light up a candle, do some crosser puzzles, throw on
Speaker 1: the Christmas Cocktail jazz. Tie, it's a great old man moment.
Speaker 2: Sot's listen, Dan, We've got another show to do before Christmas.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, we say some of my Christmas.
Speaker 2: Need to save some of this hashtag content for that show,
Speaker 2: because Christmas Outsider. That's right, hashtag Christmas Outsider coming your way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: next show on the Sunday Show. Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: so just have so many questions, keep that we can.
Speaker 2: We can do all of these questions.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'd rather talk about these than.
Speaker 1: The mccale offense.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, thank you for bearing with us
Speaker 2: here on the program. We'll be back on Sunday. Talk
Speaker 2: more college football preview, the playoffs, talk a little Christmas talk,
Speaker 2: some holiday spirit, what have you. Solid Verbal at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com, Hit us up, let us know what's on
Speaker 2: your mind in the meantime, for that guy over there
Speaker 2: in beautiful New York City, for myself, Ty hilding Brand
Speaker 2: over here at Eastern PA. Thanks again for tuning in.
Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,