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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here, rolling along into the phone lines,

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Speaker 2: we go to talk to our buddy Chris Adamski, of

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Speaker 2: course covers the Steelers for the trip. He's been doing

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Speaker 2: that for over a decade and co hosts these Steelers

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Speaker 2: Blitz with Tom Aferman here at noon on weekdays on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Buzz. Thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: As always, let's jump right into it, Crystal Ball this

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Speaker 2: thing for me? Does it really feel like the road

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Speaker 2: has narrowed that this is down to one of the

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Speaker 2: Rams candidates or Mike McCarthy for the next head coaching

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Speaker 2: job of the Pittsburgh Steelers, or might there be some

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Speaker 2: other names A Flores, a McDermott, some other people who

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Speaker 2: could work their way into this discussion.

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Speaker 3: Still, you have to think that by now, whether or

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Speaker 3: not you know I know it or you know it

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Speaker 3: or hurt you know somebody, it would have been leaked

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Speaker 3: by now right at some way or another, I mean,

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Speaker 3: especially from the side of the perspective candidate to have

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Speaker 3: kept expecting today it's kind of a donut hole day

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Speaker 3: where unless something completely comes out of left field with it, again,

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Speaker 3: nobody nationally locally knew about. Is is a day where

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Speaker 3: there's no interview going on this week when in person

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Speaker 3: you would think that just for efficiency and just I

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Speaker 3: don't know why you would wait like it certainly seems

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Speaker 3: Halfo was already hired. The guys that were interviewed get

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Speaker 3: a second interview. But yeah, yeah, just yes, just me

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Speaker 3: and career. So those those three scenes as if they

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Speaker 3: apparently got eliminated via the virtual part of it. So

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Speaker 3: I guess there's always a chance, and and you know

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Speaker 3: this always did. I suppose that these developments all point

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Speaker 3: that was soon thereafter that that the two RAMS guys

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Speaker 3: guess you're running a risk. I don't know how today's

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Speaker 3: mon what were the varying degrees a generation that that

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Speaker 3: Let's say, to make a major decision as a you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously were impressed by both Shoe House and Shula during

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Speaker 1: Do you agree that it would be shocking if they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I, Like I said, I certainly, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Damski with us here on the drive on this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of candidates, there is a member of the

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Speaker 2: albeit on the coaching staff, but in the front office,

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Speaker 2: Andy Whitel, in that vacant Atlanta Falcons general manager chair.

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Speaker 2: We kind of discussed this a little bit yesterday, Chris,

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Speaker 2: We know Mike Tomlin and his exit, Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 2: his potential exit or at least just uncertain future head

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Speaker 2: someone like Andy Whitel I think could be just as

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Speaker 2: impactful to the Pittsburgh Steelers as their future head coach

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those things where I think if

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Speaker 3: And this was only May of twenty twenty two. But

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Speaker 3: I say only but then I think it was generally

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Speaker 3: getting another job at some point, right, And I probably

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Speaker 3: think in that context, that's not bad. That's not a

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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's a that's not a short tenure. Really,

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Speaker 3: also not something where he just you know, made a

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Speaker 3: and he would of course want to take that, so

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Speaker 3: all being said, the timing, of course is less than

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Speaker 3: scheme and all that certainly less than ideal. If if

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Speaker 3: you happen to lose the guy that was kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Andy's a super smart football mind from Libo too,

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Speaker 1: just like West's partner and your partner there as well,

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Speaker 1: and handsome too, a guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we might have the MLB rookie of the year

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Speaker 2: And both both both you know, both school colors are

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Speaker 2: I'm just dallous. I'm just jealous that Matt played street

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Speaker 2: hockey with Dave Filoni growing up. But that's a different

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Speaker 2: one of the things that Matt and I also discussed

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Speaker 2: yesterday that I'd like to get your opinion on. We

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Speaker 2: we all know goes into these fifth year franchise tags,

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Speaker 2: how do you think that decision plays out here in

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Speaker 2: it relates to Broderick Jones's fifth year option.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's kind of you know, well, first

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Speaker 3: more projectable. You probably need a little more time to

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Speaker 3: grow into it. He wasn't like fought Tadu, who came

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Speaker 3: have nineteen career starts in college, Brederick Jones. I believe

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Speaker 3: you thought, whereas I think I'm not making this comparison,

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Speaker 3: maybe by three he's can prob or project maybe if

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Speaker 2: problems than bad ones. Chris Adamski, he's a good problem

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Speaker 2: Taking some time, but thank you for the time as always,

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Speaker 3: And nice to think somebody's ever said about me. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm sure all of your high school teachers back at

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Speaker 3: Take care pal, all right, take care of the West.

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Speaker 2: There he goes, Chris and Damski good stuff from him,

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