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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we've come to the most important story

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Speaker 2: of the day, the questions thwirling around President Trump's health,

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Speaker 2: So we could go ahead and put these pictures up

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Speaker 2: on the screen. President Trump has not spoken to in

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Speaker 2: front of a camera in I believe it's six days.

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Speaker 2: At this point. We've only caught these glimpses of him

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Speaker 2: going to and from his golf courses. Okay, I think

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Speaker 2: we can all say in both of these photos he

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Speaker 2: looks like shit. Okay, can we go back to the

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Speaker 2: first one again? We can see his look on his

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Speaker 2: face is very brandon esque. It's the mouth a gate.

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Speaker 2: You can see, you know, the skin is sagging, the

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Speaker 2: makeup is not properly applied. There's no hair visible. For

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Speaker 2: some reason, people were like zooming in and enhancing this

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Speaker 2: in all kinds of ways, like he looks bad here, okay,

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Speaker 2: and this is basically the only glimpse that we've gotten

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Speaker 2: of him. Then they said, okay, well he's fine, he's

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Speaker 2: going golfing. Okay. Well, the press pool that was with

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Speaker 2: him were kept from being able to see him on

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Speaker 2: the golf course. They were made to wait on the

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Speaker 2: tennis course, so they didn't actually get to see any

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Speaker 2: of him golfing. There are no pictures of him golfing.

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Speaker 2: This is all we've got, okay. Then they posted photos

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Speaker 2: posted these photos of him, or he posted them on

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Speaker 2: his true social account. Great playing golf with John Gruden.

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Speaker 2: Really nice guy in a true character wearing, by the way,

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Speaker 2: a very similar outfit to the one he wore when

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Speaker 2: he was allegedly playing golf. This is an old photo.

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Speaker 2: This was taken on August twenty third, and they seem

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Speaker 2: This is a parsager where this was the first time.

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Speaker 2: I was like, h maybe there is something going on here.

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Speaker 2: We can put C three up on the screen. It's

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Speaker 2: the Newsweek article about some of the series and speculation here.

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Speaker 2: They mentioned to the week old photo and how that

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Speaker 2: raised eyebrows amid health speculation. Of course, we already had

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Speaker 2: those bruising on his hands that he's been trying to

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Speaker 2: hide and trying to cover up. We all know about

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Speaker 2: the cankels and the way that they've been you know,

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Speaker 2: the way they address that, and the way he's been

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Speaker 2: trying to hide those cankels as well. So we're already

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Speaker 2: some swirling speculation. Then he disappears, then we get these

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Speaker 2: to the golf course allegedly and there are no photos

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Speaker 2: have been playing, and they post this week old photo

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Speaker 2: other MAGA influencers like Charlie Kirk and the like who

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Speaker 2: golf videos that were again I think meant to meant

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Speaker 2: is being viril inactive in all of this that also

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Speaker 2: were all old. So it's really weird. And then last

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Speaker 2: the White House and the Pentagon and Walter Reed. All

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Speaker 2: until two pm when he was making some unspecified announcement.

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Speaker 2: Now we have since then received word that the announcement

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Speaker 2: two pm. But what do you think of all of

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are having a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun on the internet, so let's go there. And

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Speaker 1: but let's talk about it. So the six days thing

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Speaker 1: care if Trump is sick or not. If he was,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, of course they should be transparent about it.

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Speaker 1: He spoke for three and a half hours on camera.

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Speaker 1: Reagan Reese of The Daily Caller interviewed him for over

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Speaker 1: an hour and a half on Friday. He's always been

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Speaker 1: old and frankly unseemly when not in a suit. By

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Speaker 1: you should always wear one. Also why you shouldn't wear

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, just looking at all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: whenever he had the bruises on his hands and his cankles.

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Speaker 1: So is the White House being fully transparent by his health?

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Speaker 1: Almost certainly not, especially with the hands. I definitely think

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Speaker 1: some weird stuff is going on there. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people are having too much fun

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Speaker 1: on the internet, like, for example, I get how the

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Speaker 1: framing of the golf course, like, oh, well, go the

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Speaker 1: literally in the motorcade. It's pretty much basic standard. When

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Speaker 1: the president goes to the golf course on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: they don't allow the press. In ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: time the photos that get release are from the White House.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with the week old photo stuff and

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Speaker 1: all that looks quote bad, you know, in the context

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Speaker 1: of all of this, and I would be happy to

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Speaker 1: or whatever that he is like, I just don't see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any of this stuff. For example, Okay,

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Speaker 2: It's weird to have no Labor Day events though too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that president. It is weird for

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Speaker 2: a president is supposed to be like glass.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, Crystal. He spends all of his time golfing,

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Speaker 1: and when he was president the first time, every Thursday

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Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I just think a lot of this is just fever

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Speaker 1: pitched like brain DAWs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, probably, but yeah, you have to admit it's weird. Okay.

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Speaker 2: There was all this speculation, like I'm gonna say, like Friday,

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Speaker 2: that he was actually dead. There was all this speculation

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Speaker 2: online like we haven't seen Trump Trump maybe dead. There

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Speaker 2: was like video of somebody rolling something out of the

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Speaker 2: White House. We were like, that was Trump and he's fit.

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Speaker 2: He in the staff are super online. So what would

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Speaker 2: like the logical thing to do would be he's on

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Speaker 2: the go. Look at him taking this swing. Doesn't he

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Speaker 2: look great? And even if you don't allow the press

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Speaker 2: to go along and to see that, you release a

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Speaker 2: current photo that demonstrates that. So you don't have that.

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Speaker 2: The photos that are of him just like shuffling to

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Speaker 2: the you know, to the transport looks like Brandon on

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Speaker 2: the debate stage, looks like total old man, terrible.

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Speaker 1: He always look like this is my point.

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Speaker 2: No he doesn't, No, he doesn't, And he doesn't talk

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Speaker 2: to the press, right, He's always talking to the press.

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Speaker 2: This man cannot and shut up.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from.

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Speaker 2: Days and days that you have to admit, ye, to

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Speaker 2: go this long without saying ship on a camera is

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Speaker 2: very very unusual.

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Speaker 1: He did an interview on frand look that I sound

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Speaker 1: like I'm defending Trump, I really am not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he probably just took labor day off like

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Speaker 1: everybody else. But I mean, look, he's going to be

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Speaker 1: on camera in a matter of hours. We'll all see it. Also,

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you. The Department of War is a

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Speaker 1: great name, and we have launched more wars of aggression

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Speaker 1: under the quote Department of Defense than we did on

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Speaker 1: the Department of Wars, so everybody, well.

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Speaker 2: I actually think that it is its honest exactly.

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Speaker 1: The Department was a dystope name.

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Speaker 2: You have to admit that is ironic for mister anti

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Speaker 2: war to now be like, you know, yes, total department

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Speaker 2: of What.

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Speaker 1: Are you supposed to call the Department of Peace? I

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Speaker 1: mean the Department of War. The point we wage war now, the.

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Speaker 2: Point isn't what the name of the thing is. The

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Speaker 2: point is what you're actually doing. And he has been

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Speaker 1: Point the name is good. No, I'm going to stand

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Speaker 1: for this. The name is good, all right. It's important

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Speaker 1: that America be honest about what it actually is the

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Speaker 1: we have done nothing but to launch disastrous wars. The

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the name is going to change

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Speaker 2: the terrible policy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not now, all right, but but the post I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you this stuff matters a lot more than people think.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that was about dystopia, It was about

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Speaker 1: actual ramifications Congress voted for and more. Do I think

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Speaker 2: Going to change any doubt that the name change has

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Speaker 2: much to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I think restoring honesty and restoring honesty and clarity in

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Speaker 1: what exactly these places do is a lot more important

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Speaker 1: than people think. Stympology does still matter, and the Department

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Speaker 1: of War was an important part of that.

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Speaker 2: So let me put up this next piece, which is

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Speaker 2: C four. So in addition to all of the things

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Speaker 2: that we've the photos, the weak old photo being passed

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Speaker 2: off as current, the fact he looks like absolute Crop,

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Speaker 2: hasn't spoken to the press, his posts on true Social

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Speaker 2: or weird they don't sound like him at all in fact,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is true. I've seen people saying this,

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Speaker 2: like Gavin Newsom doing his weird Trump impression sounds more

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Speaker 2: like Trump than these posts. And so one individual ran

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Speaker 2: his true Social posts through chat GPT and asked for

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Speaker 2: an analysis of whether or not this sounded like Trump,

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Speaker 2: and the TLDR here is no, they don't sound like

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Speaker 2: him at all. This one says, Wow. Mayor Muriel Bowser

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Speaker 2: of DC has become very popular because she worked with

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Speaker 2: me and my great people and bringing crime down to

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Speaker 2: virtually nothing in DC. Her statements and actions were positive

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Speaker 2: instead of others like Pritzker, Westbourn, scum and blah blah blah. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they say that the signature President djt our, memo letter

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Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to the left because it could

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Speaker 1: suck a lot of the enthusiasm out of him. It

436
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Speaker 1: could become you know, things could go back to normal, honestly,

437
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Speaker 1: relatively quickly, So you really have Look, I don't want

438
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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of energy around hating jd Vance and the Petertiel Palenteer

440
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Speaker 2: elon Musk tech oligarchs as well.

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Speaker 1: Purely online the average you know, Normy lib hates Trump

442
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 1: for being uncouth and you know whatever, like they don't

443
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Speaker 1: give a shit. And to the extent that they care

444
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Speaker 1: about Jad, they're like, he's Trump's little errand boy or whatever.

445
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't know anything about Palanteer. So I

446
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: think that's this here.

447
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: Is emblematic of the oligarchy and like the billionaire class. Well,

448
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 2: and there's certainly normy reactions.

449
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, we'll see. Personally, I think that the

450
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Speaker 1: left Trump is the best thing for the left right now.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean his you know, his like brashness and all

452
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Speaker 1: that return to normalcy would nuke them because then they

453
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Speaker 1: would Yeah, I don't think that. I think all the

454
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Speaker 1: energy would completely be sucked out it. Also, I look,

455
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Speaker 1: a lot of it depends on GD A lot of

456
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Speaker 1: it depends on the circumstances too, and the timing, Like

457
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Speaker 1: early on right now, you're basically the full on president

458
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Speaker 1: for three years. That's what happened to Roosevelt, That's what

459
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Speaker 1: happened to Truman. Whereas it's like LBJ, you're running in

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Speaker 1: the I think so November, Yeah, so he only had

461
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Speaker 1: a year. It's number twenty third up until the election.

462
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Speaker 1: He only had the last year of the presidency that's

463
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Speaker 1: a very different circumstance too. So the point is it's complicated.

464
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Speaker 1: If you look broadly around, we'll see I mean, it's

465
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Speaker 1: fun thought experiment, I guess. All right, let's get to Saturers.

466
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Speaker 1: Very crazy story coming out of Jordan where two United

467
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Speaker 1: States senators were denied the ability to fly over Gaza

468
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Speaker 1: despite being in the country of Jordan and would have

469
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Speaker 1: been boarded on a Jordanian plane. So here's the video

470
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Speaker 1: that they shot. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Merkley and I are here at the King Abdell

472
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Speaker 3: of the second Air Force Base in Jordan. Jeff and

473
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Speaker 3: I wanted to go into Gossam to see firsthand the

474
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Speaker 3: destruction which we've seen in photographs and by eyewitness testimony,

475
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Speaker 3: but we were denied that opportunity to go in on

476
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Speaker 3: the ground. We are really hoping for the opportunity to

477
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Speaker 3: fly over against to be able to witness firsthand exactly

478
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Speaker 3: the scale of destruction in Gaza. So far, we've not

479
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Speaker 3: been able to go.

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Speaker 1: So far, the senators have not been able to go,

481
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Speaker 1: denied the ability to go by the Israeli government, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty shocking. Again, you know, considering the fact that

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Speaker 1: the government itself has banned journalist and others from even

484
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Speaker 1: participating in flyovers that are dropping AID and that is

485
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Speaker 1: one where you know, you just have to ask, well,

486
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Speaker 1: what are you covering up exactly? And well we all know,

487
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Speaker 1: don't we because there have been enough images of all

488
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Speaker 1: of that that have been able to come out. It's

489
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Speaker 1: mostly just a serious breach on US sovereignty because it's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, exactly, I mean it's crazy, like these are

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Speaker 1: United States senators in a foreign country. The Jordanian government

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Speaker 1: has no problem with them going and they're like, no, actually,

493
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Speaker 1: because what is that. It's a tasket commission and we

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Speaker 1: control the skies, it's our territory. Well, it's our country,

495
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Speaker 1: and which just gets all the questions around this of like, well,

496
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Speaker 1: why what exactly is going on here? We're not even

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Speaker 1: allowed to fly and they're oh, Hamas has rockets now

498
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Speaker 1: that can shoot us. Come on, like what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And we know the way they blocked journalists from going

501
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Speaker 2: on board these you know, AID drop flights because they

502
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Speaker 2: didn't want pictures coming out and they don't want Merkley

503
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Speaker 2: and they don't want Van Holland to actually see that

504
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Speaker 2: Gaza has been turned into absolute and complete rubble. They

505
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Speaker 2: also went to the Ropagate on the Egypt Gaza border,

506
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Speaker 2: and he says in this post, he says, on the

507
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Speaker 2: other side was Gaza's thriving city of Rafa, home to

508
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Speaker 2: two hundred and six seventy thousand. Today we saw it

509
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Speaker 2: reduced to rubble. The net Nahoo government has gone beyond

510
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Speaker 2: targeting Hamasta, waging a war of destruction against all Palestinians.

511
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Speaker 2: It must end. And we all remember when everybody's posting

512
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Speaker 2: all all lies on Rafa, right, we all remember that.

513
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Speaker 2: We all remember the Biden administration saying going into Rafa

514
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Speaker 2: is a red line, because remember what the Israelis did.

515
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Speaker 2: They pushed the entire population of Gaza further and further

516
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Speaker 2: and further south, Rafa being the southernmost city, and just

517
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Speaker 2: obliterated in their path, squeezed everybody down into the southern

518
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Speaker 2: part of the Gaza strip. And then they went in

519
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Speaker 2: and annihilated Rafa as well. And Rafa has been reduced

520
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Speaker 2: to rubble as we speak, we can put D three

521
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Speaker 2: up on the screen. You know, there is a just

522
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Speaker 2: absolute onslaught happening in and around Gaza city. This is

523
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Speaker 2: from yesterday. According to Middle East I and this was

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Speaker 2: information from Gaza's health ministry, they said that Israeli killed

525
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Speaker 2: at least ninety eight Palestinians in Goza in the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours. During the same period, four hundred and

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Speaker 2: four others were wounded. A number of these Palestinians who

528
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Speaker 2: were murdered by the IDF were out seeking aid. A

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Speaker 2: number of other ones I believe eight of them died

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Speaker 2: because of starvation. So it is absolutely as brutal and

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Speaker 2: as dire as it has ever been in this war.

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Speaker 2: I saw numbers that even if you use which most

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Speaker 2: I mean all experts say at this point like the

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Speaker 2: official numbers are dramatic undercount. If you can consider people

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Speaker 2: are dying of malnutrition and disease and lack of sanitation,

536
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Speaker 2: and you know who are buried under the rubble and

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Speaker 2: unaccounted for, etc. It's a dramatic undercount. But even if

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Speaker 2: we take that official count, that means that ten percent

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Speaker 2: of the population of the Gaza strip has ever either

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Speaker 2: been killed or injured. There is really no analogous situation

541
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Speaker 2: in modern history ten percent of an entire population that

542
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Speaker 2: has either been killed or injured, and you know, we're

543
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Speaker 2: still here backing the whole thing and putting up plans

544
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Speaker 2: for you know, official ethnic cleansing, which we'll get to

545
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Speaker 2: in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really sickening. Let's go ahead and put the

547
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Speaker 1: next part up here on the screen, please, just so

548
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Speaker 1: we can show at least some of it. I mean,

549
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Speaker 1: it really is sickening. Actually some of the video that

550
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Speaker 1: has been coming out at the very least of like

551
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Speaker 1: what is even available you know, warning obviously if you're

552
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Speaker 1: watching this, and some sensitive stuff, but this is the

553
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Speaker 1: least amount from what we've been able to see that

554
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Speaker 1: remains there. And it demonstrates why a lot of the

555
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Speaker 1: campaign against journalists and against these senators is happening is

556
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Speaker 1: to basically keep it so that only the on the

557
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Speaker 1: ground images are the ones that are able to be disseminated,

558
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Speaker 1: and there's no journalists, there's nobody even really verifying or

559
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Speaker 1: plotting or telling people what exactly is going on. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it is actually very interesting from the point

561
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Speaker 1: of how much longer this can continue in terms of

562
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Speaker 1: public and US support, Like that's the big question is

563
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Speaker 1: at a certain point, even the pro Israel defenders and

564
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this soon the people in Israel, the IDF,

565
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Speaker 1: who can we all agree is not like some bleeding

566
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Speaker 1: heart liberals and all them are like, guys, this is

567
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Speaker 1: doing nothing like it is basically killing for the sake

568
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Speaker 1: of it and expulsion in conjunction with this like crazy

569
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Speaker 1: plan of the far most far right ministers of the

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Speaker 1: Israeli government. It's a question both for them politically, you know,

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Speaker 1: at a constituent level, because it's true, basically Israel either

572
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Speaker 1: de facto supports this or you know, supports this all out.

573
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Speaker 1: But it's also a question of like America here where

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Speaker 1: even with the limited amount of images, the amount of control,

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Speaker 1: and the lack of support, that they're just going for

576
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Speaker 1: it in a way that strategically doesn't make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense if you plan for a continuation, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it does, because they're like, this is it. We're just

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Speaker 1: going to get it done now. It's the only time

580
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Speaker 1: that we'll ever have the opportunity. So don't I don't

581
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Speaker 1: really know, you know, how else to square it, because

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Speaker 1: that seems to be what they think, Well.

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Speaker 2: We have, we have the plan. We'll talk about in

584
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: the next block of what they intend to do. They're

585
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Speaker 2: using GHF basically as shaping operations to push everybody again

586
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Speaker 2: to the South and you know, be able to push

587
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Speaker 2: people to you know, to self deport. We'll say, just

588
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: breezen plans for ethnic cleansing and then create some you know,

589
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Speaker 2: development haven for for Trump and his cronies to cash

590
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Speaker 2: in on his utterly disgusting and stage capitalism kind of stuff.

591
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Speaker 2: Let's put D five up on the screen because it's

592
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: also unbelievable how rogue Israelists they assassinated Yemen's prime minister

593
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Speaker 2: and their entire cabinet. And this is from Code Pink.

594
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Speaker 2: They say Western impunity means Israel can kill entire government

595
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Speaker 2: cabinets of sovereign countries and commit genocide without the world

596
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Speaker 2: batting in eyelid. It goes without saying, imagine that the

597
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Speaker 2: houthis assassinated net Yahoo and Smoke Church and Benkevie. What

598
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: do you think the reaction would be? And yet they

599
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: operate in such a rogue and lawless manner with absolute

600
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Speaker 2: impunity and zero accountability with us when they're indicted for

601
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Speaker 2: war crimes, sanctioning the ICC for daring to sanction them

602
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Speaker 2: to you know, indict them for war crimes just absolute impunity.

603
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Speaker 2: It is insane what this country is doing, the number

604
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Speaker 2: of countries they bomb, the number of war crimes they've committed. Obviously,

605
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Speaker 2: what's happening in Gaza, what they're doing in the West Bank,

606
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Speaker 2: what they're announcing, and they're once again saying, we're going

607
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Speaker 2: to cut off aid to northern Gaza because we, you know,

608
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Speaker 2: believe anyone who's left there, we're just going to assume

609
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: that they're a terrorist, so we're going to try to

610
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Speaker 2: starve them to death. This is all announced and out

611
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Speaker 2: in the open, and yet our country is, you know,

612
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: just going along with it. And ultimately, we know other

613
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Speaker 2: nations around the world with any power to do anything,

614
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Speaker 2: are really doing anything. Listen, the recognition of Pali sine. Okay, fine,

615
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Speaker 2: but that is not going to change the situation right now,

616
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Speaker 2: and Israel truly is going for it. In that interview

617
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Speaker 2: that you mentioned that Trump did give to a print

618
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Speaker 2: reporter on Friday, he was asked about Israel. Can put

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Speaker 2: D four up on the screen to show you part

620
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Speaker 2: of his answer. So he was asked this question about, like, hey,

621
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Speaker 2: do you see that some young Republicans even now are

622
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Speaker 2: moving away from Israel? And what do you make of that?

623
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Speaker 2: Are you aware of it? And he says, yeah, I'm

624
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Speaker 2: aware of it. So Israel is amazing because you know,

625
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Speaker 2: I have good support from Israel. But when if you

626
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Speaker 2: go back twenty years, I mean, I will tell you,

627
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Speaker 2: Israel had the strongest lobby in Congress of anything or body,

628
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Speaker 2: or of any company or corporation or state that I've

629
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Speaker 2: ever seen. Israel was the strongest. Today it doesn't have

630
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Speaker 2: that strong lobby. It's amazing. I think we have more

631
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Speaker 2: from this interview we can go to. He says there

632
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Speaker 2: was a time where he couldn't speak bad if you

633
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: wanted to be a politician, you couldn't speak badly. But

634
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: today you have, you know, AOC plus three and you

635
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: have all these loot and they've really changed it. So

636
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get that war over with. But

637
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Speaker 2: it is hurting Israel, There's no question about it. They

638
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 2: may be winning the war, but they're not winning the

639
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: world of public relations, you know, and it is hurting them.

640
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Speaker 2: So some interesting commons similar to things and that he's

641
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: actually said in the past about the Israel lobby, and.

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Speaker 1: I mean yes and no, he's like said that stuff

643
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Speaker 1: before on Israel. He just reverts to this like, you know,

644
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Speaker 1: template answer, what about October seventh he did or what.

645
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Speaker 2: It's just it's like no one has done more for

646
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Speaker 2: Israel than I have.

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Speaker 1: True, I guess truely true. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there is mystif the people around Trump, many others, even

649
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Speaker 1: in the Republican movement, are mystified at his deference to Israel.

650
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: It does not exist with any other state. Nobody really

651
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: knows why. We can all speculate. We certainly have here

652
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: on the show if variety of ideology, money, who knows,

653
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: you know what else that female some people are saying,

654
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: some people are so many people are saying that it

655
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: could be. But regardless they have, he has an exception

656
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: to them that does not exist for literally anyone else.

657
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: And it is exceptional because it stands so stark to

658
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: how he treats every single other country in the world.

659
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: And it's what's actually remarkable is that Trump's thing about

660
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: being independent was he always different than other Republicans, even

661
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: if he would do many of the same things. But

662
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: on Israel he seems exactly the same. It's just like

663
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, He's just like all the others He's just

664
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: like all the you know, like everyone else. And it's

665
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: the one area where I think people can credibly be like, dude,

666
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: you are, you know, like you're just not different in

667
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: any way. If anything, you're the most you know, fervorent

668
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: like Backer, They're off the Israel lobby. So I think

669
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Speaker 1: that is probably the area which has been most disillusioning,

670
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, for a lot of the so called like

671
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: podcast Young right and all these other people, because they

672
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: don't like Israel, you know, and they're not subjected to

673
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: the same level of propaganda that a lot of these

674
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: other people are. I don't know, I just I'll never

675
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: understand it, I truly won't.

676
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think part of what he gives up there,

677
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I think the blackmail thing

678
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: is like a real life possibility, and even if he

679
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: doesn't know specifically, he is probably somewhat afraid of them

680
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: and what they might have on him. And we know

681
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: that they've like threatened, you know, Ryan's reporting about it

682
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: threatened Bill Clinton, so we can't put that past them

683
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: at all. But he also says something there that he's like,

684
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot of support there, I mean, and

685
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: that's part of how he thinks too. He's like Mary

686
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Meddlson gave me a one hundred million dollars and I'm

687
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: going to do what she wants me to do. I'm

688
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: going to do what they want me to do because

689
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: they really support me. And you know, there is a

690
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: large constituency in the Republican Party that is just they're

691
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: still majority overwhelmingly pro Israel. So he's looking at where

692
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: his bread is buttered, and it doesn't you know, that's

693
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: certainly a part of the calculation of the way that

694
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: he views the world, Saber. This will transition us to

695
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: the next piece. I think he also is enamored with

696
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: the real estate developer possibilities of the Gaza strafinitely.

697
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. All right, let's get to that, shall we,

698
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Because this, you know, we both were going through the

699
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: post war playing the PowerPoint which remarkably are actually out

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: in the open, and it's actually insane. Let's go and

701
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: put this up here on the screen. This was from

702
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the Washington Post. Gaza post war plan envisions quote voluntary

703
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: relocation of the entire population. It's called the Great Trust

704
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: from a demolished Iranian proxy to a prosperous Abrahamic ally,

705
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: let's stick with that. It's the Gaza Reconstruction, economic Acceleration, Transformation,

706
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: or Great as they are calling it. You can actually

707
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: look at the prospectus. It's linked there. It's completely public.

708
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: It quote envisions a temporary relocation of all of Gaza's

709
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: more than two million population through what it calls voluntary

710
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: departure to another country or into restricted, secured zones inside

711
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Speaker 1: the enclave during reconstruction. It would be financed, it says,

712
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: by various shady entities. And I think the most important

713
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: here part here is that it would entail basically the

714
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: United States being responsible for this. Much of the financial

715
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: planning has been done by Boston Consulting Group. So this

716
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: is like inclusion of all the worst of America.

717
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: And they themselves, by the way, for the lawyers anyway.

718
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the lawyers, you know, they've put out

719
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: a statement, etc. But at the very least, this is

720
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: a classic Jared Kushner style, which I mean, look, he

721
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: even said it right over a year ago. He was like, oh,

722
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: some of the best real estate in the world. And

723
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Speaker 1: I do think that they are genuinely like enamored by

724
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: what you said of the riviera of the Middle East.

725
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: But the most appealing part to Trump is that quote

726
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: it requires no US government funding and other significant profit

727
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: to investors. Instead, what it would do is use private

728
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: US security contractors to distribute food in four gods and

729
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: locations like with the GHF, which is de facto under

730
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: Israeli control, and it would be financed by public and

731
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: private sector investment for mega projects from electric vehicle plants,

732
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: data centers, beach resorts, and high rise apartments. Now, obviously,

733
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Speaker 1: I think the question of like who gets to live

734
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: there seems to be pretty important, And like the GHF,

735
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: what we have basically seen is this private quasi force

736
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Speaker 1: which includes and is funded by the United States by

737
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Speaker 1: the Israeli government. What we know from GJF whistleblower Anthony

738
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Speaker 1: Aguilar is that the Israelies were the quote client, and

739
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: we're effectively the ones running this. And if the two

740
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: million people lead and you build this great resort for

741
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: who's it for? Is it for these rag leis? So

742
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: it's a US funded development resort, Disneyland project so that

743
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: people in Tel Aviv can come to the beach. Like

744
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? Yeah, that's why it's

745
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, disaster capitalism does not even capture

746
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: what Elvis is. This is dark.

747
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: This is like the end stage of genocide on behalf

748
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: of development.

749
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of that show, the Amazon Prime show

750
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: about if the Nazis won the war. I'm totally bladed

751
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: to Oh that's what it is. It's like New Ye.

752
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, what New York would look like if

753
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: the Nazis had won. It's like bullet and you know,

754
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: super fast Concord aircraft. And then people are driving through

755
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: the Midwest and there's ashes and they're like, oh, yeah,

756
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: it's start for the hospital to burn the bodies. You're like,

757
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: uh what, Yeah, But I mean that's kind of the

758
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: technological future that they envision. So it's I mean, I'm

759
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: I won't go that far. It's not as bad, budd It's.

760
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: Like, again, we're talking about committing a genocide and an

761
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: ethnic cleansing so we can clean clean down a population

762
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: so that Trump and Kushner and his buddies can make

763
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: millions on a real estate deal. That's what we're talking

764
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, And I have to say, the way this

765
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: article sets it up, like to not use any of

766
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: that any language around that is also really a disgrace

767
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: when it's all laid out in the open. The mechanics

768
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: of how they described this too are utterly horrifying. First

769
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: of all, the envision GHF the Gods of Humanitarian Foundation

770
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: that Tony Aguilar has been blowing the whistle on a

771
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: bunch of paid a marria and mercenary thugs who are

772
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: apparently comfortable with murdering children as they seek aid. They're

773
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: central to this plan. They lay out the different phases,

774
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: and phase number one they call it humanitarian operations. Israel

775
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: fights to dismantle hamas GHF provides hamas free, secure aid

776
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: and temporary housing. They operate under humanitarian mandate to secure

777
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: humanitarian operations in personnel. That's what they claim JHF is doing.

778
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: In the next phase, the Great Trust is created, GHF

779
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: folds under the Great Trust and they're used. So I

780
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: want you guys to understand too that this connects directly

781
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: to what's happening on the ground right now with GHF.

782
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: And this again is what Anthony Aguilar said. He said,

783
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: these aren't this is not an aid operation. These are

784
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: shaping operations. What are the shaping operations meant to enable this?

785
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: Is it to lure the population, to force them through

786
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: starvation into certain parts of the strip. Right now, once again,

787
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: the IDF in bombing the helen of Gaza City by

788
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: the way, attacking people who are trying to flee, trying

789
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: to follow the orders. And they're still attacking and murdering

790
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: these people who are trying to do what they're told

791
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: by the IDF they have to do. But in any case,

792
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: they are part and parcel of this plan to fully

793
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: get rid of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and create

794
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: this Trump Riviera Gaza situation, absolute insanity. And they talk

795
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: in the cold language of the you know BCG consultants

796
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: in this PowerPoint about how much more cost effective it

797
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: will be if they can lure more Gazans to completely

798
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: live leave the strip. We'll save thirty thousand dollars for

799
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: each person Palestinian that we lure to go to you know,

800
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: whatever country, Somaliland or whatever country agrees to ultimately take them.

801
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: That's the way this is all laid down. And I

802
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: really there's something about the combination of this corporate speek

803
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: real estate development PowerPoint when you know, like we showed

804
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: you the images of we know what is happening on

805
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: the ground. We know the way that humans are being

806
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: murdered and children destroyed and limbs amputated, and the level

807
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: of trauma and the complete destruction of like this was

808
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: a real place with schools and hospitals and churches and

809
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: moss and community and family and cemeteries and life and

810
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: culture and all of this, and you're just clearing it

811
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: aside so Trump can build a fucking beachside hotel. Like

812
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: it's sick. It is absolutely sick. And the fact that

813
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: it happens out in the open, that we can see

814
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: the documents and the plans are announced and it just

815
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: unfolds like it blows. It truly does blow my mind.

816
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: It really does blow my mind.

817
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put E four up on the screen because

818
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I think what's important to also note is how explicit

819
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: the current campaign in Gaza City is with what this

820
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: aim is as a posed to the ostensible well, because

821
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Speaker 1: if you listen to Scott Jennings on c really, what

822
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: about the hostages, what about the hostages? All of the

823
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Security Cabinet, all of the IDF told Netanyahu any Gaza

824
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: City takeover will not defeat Hamas, and they are begging

825
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: for him to accept the quote limited hostage deal which

826
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: has been on the table, the Wick Cough proposal for

827
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: what like two weeks three weeks now that has been

828
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: accepted by Hamas. They say, no, we're not going to

829
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: do that. Instead, pushing out and taking over Gaza City

830
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: is what eradication, destruction and the creation of the zone.

831
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Speaker 1: So the Equin eventually annexit and create the Gaza Riviera,

832
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: which by the way, they don't have to pay for

833
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: because of course why would they have to pay for it,

834
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: even though they broke all of it, all of it

835
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: out they want America to pay for in the UAE

836
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and all these other countries, and then to use the

837
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: full might of the Empire to actually force this expulsion

838
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: and then pay for in quasi finance the development of

839
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: a Disneyland for Israelis. I mean, it's pretty insane, sickening,

840
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: but that's the only way that you can actually make

841
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: this all makes sense, especially in the context of they've

842
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: been threatening what they have been threatening, the current official

843
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: annexation of the West Bank, not that they obviously don't

844
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: occupy it now, and then the Greater Israel project is

845
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: in full force, except by this time it's paid for

846
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: by the US taxpayer finance for the US dollar. That's

847
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: the really sick and insane part of it.

848
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a put E two up on the

849
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: skik screen. There happens to be a crypto scam. Also

850
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: at the heart of this, I mean, just to put

851
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: the most modern dystopian spin on it, possible, those who

852
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: those Palestinians who own land will be offered a digital

853
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: token by the trust in exchange for rights to redevelop

854
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: their property, or they'll be offered that how kind of them,

855
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: They'll get a digital token for their land that they

856
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: have had in their family for generations. Unbelievable. And then

857
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, as this is happening and unfolding again in

858
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: front of our eyes, you can put E three up

859
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: on the screen. You have the foremost association of scholars

860
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: of genocide who just voted overwhelming land that it was

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Speaker 2: eighty six percent or something to say yes, it's a genocide,

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Speaker 2: and they join the They joined the view of the

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Speaker 2: provisional ruling of the ICJ. They joined the view of

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Speaker 2: other scholars around the world, of Amnesty International, of Betsalum,

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Speaker 2: of all sorts of international human rights organizations like Soccer

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00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: doesn't use that term, so we'll put him aside. But

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Speaker 2: for those who embrace this term and think that it

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Speaker 2: means something and think that it should apply in certain situations,

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Speaker 2: there is a consensus now and it is no longer

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Speaker 2: a question.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't deny that within the confines of the term,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, And that's what I'm Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm for sure.

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Speaker 1: And look, I mean and this is part of why

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Speaker 1: where Netta Yaho, This is part of why, because it

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Speaker 1: all gets you know, wrapped in I think Netanya who

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Speaker 1: goes on pvds of course all recognize the Armenian genocide, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, so the Armenian genocide was a genocide

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Speaker 1: and it was a mass murder, but this one is not.

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Speaker 1: And so then it gets all this tedious genocide you know,

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Speaker 1: oh this, and that it goes back. I've talked about

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Speaker 1: this from nineteen forty eight, the genocide convention. It was

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Speaker 1: literally a term made up by a Polish writer in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen forties. It was basically meant to invoke like

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Speaker 1: a post World War two doctrinate a quote unquote never again.

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Speaker 1: Even though by its own terms it's obviously happened over

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Speaker 1: and over again. That's probably why I reject the term.

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Speaker 1: I think mass murders fine, and because I think that

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Speaker 1: in general, if you operate based on American interest, or

891
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Speaker 1: if most countries do, then they a lot of these

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Speaker 1: things won't happen. The only reason this stuff like this

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Speaker 1: even does happen is because this slavish devotion that we

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Speaker 1: have over at Israel, if it was treated like a

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Speaker 1: normal state, they were no rekilling nobody. And if other people,

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Speaker 1: if Western style democracies and others, really lived up to

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Speaker 1: their My point is just that nobody ever actually lives

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Speaker 1: up to this human rights style rhetoric because it's bullshit

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Speaker 1: and it's just fake law created post World War two

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Speaker 1: to make America feel good about itself, even though we

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Speaker 1: have and many other countries have perpetuated horrific disasters point them.

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Speaker 1: But yes, within that framework, of course, I would deny

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Speaker 1: it at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean it's undeniable at this point of

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Speaker 2: the population again either murdered or injured, and they're actively

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Speaker 2: announcing their eth and cleansing plans, like what are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? If you're still in denial of that? All right, guys,

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Speaker 2: rather than doing the hard turn to the US Open controversy.

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Speaker 2: We've talked for a really long time about a number

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Speaker 2: of these topics, so we're just going to cut the

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Speaker 2: show and go ahead and try to get it out

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Speaker 2: to you guys on time, and Sager and I are

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Speaker 2: going to go ahead and do that AMA live again.

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Speaker 2: and Emily will be in tomorrow.

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