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Speaker 1: Here we go our number one. I'm not sure we

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Speaker 1: We are live. We are in Chicago, and it is

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Speaker 1: The Herd one hour from now. Where Colin was right,

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Speaker 1: where Colin was wrong. I don't think we should waste

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Speaker 1: any time. Everybody's worst nightmare is now official. The Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs once again are the best team in professional football.

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Speaker 1: First three weeks, Mahomes was wobbly, they were averaging twenty

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Speaker 1: and along with those special teams. Sorry NFL, they did

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Speaker 1: it again. Kansas City only Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: They're the only people in this league that can take

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Speaker 1: number two and number three wide receivers. They can take

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and Jude ju Smith, Schuster and back up

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Speaker 1: left tackles and okay, running backs and get into the thirties.

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy with any other team, would he be this good.

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Speaker 1: All they do is make it work. Andy Reid is

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Speaker 1: the great chef, He's the Gordon Ramsey. Everything in the

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Speaker 1: kitchen has a role. Let's just keep tinkering. Let's keep

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Speaker 1: figuring out a way to make everything work. Put it

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Speaker 1: into our eCos system, and let's make it flourish. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this is what Kansas City does every year

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Speaker 1: when you get into these big games. They play differently.

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Speaker 1: No penalties, no turnovers, one punt, whine all you want

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Speaker 1: about the penalties. Well coached teams Belichick and Brady that

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Speaker 1: is for years they don't turn it over, and they

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Speaker 1: don't get penalized, and they don't pump much. The NFL

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Speaker 1: seasons are incredibly long. You can't overreact to zero to

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Speaker 1: two or three and three again. Get people healthy, make

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Speaker 1: everybody count in the kitchen. Three weeks ago, when they

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Speaker 1: beat Baltimore, everybody said, well the Ravens are beat up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, so is Tampa, so is San Francisco. A

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Speaker 1: lot of teams in the NFL are beat up doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter with this defense, this play calling, people get distracted.

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Speaker 1: The NBA is about talent and appeasing the star. The

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Speaker 1: NFL is about the on line, the defense coordinator, about

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Speaker 1: the entire system, and it's about the culture. This is

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Speaker 1: a locker room of fifty three guys, not five that

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Speaker 1: really really truly matter. And here's Kansas City. They keep tweaking.

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Speaker 1: Add a little salt, make everything in the kitchen work.

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Speaker 1: Prime example last night when they're offensive limp. The first

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Speaker 1: not very good. They had no running game. O line

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Speaker 1: was bad last night despite the Detroit Lions having a

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Speaker 1: ten minute opening drive, Kansas City one time of possession

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Speaker 1: with this offensive line that was a bit chaotic and

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear it, but Rashi Rice is coming back.

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Speaker 1: The receiving corp Now, all right? Were these a two

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a and with Mahomes and Reid pulling the levers,

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Speaker 1: what Kansas City does. First three weeks, very choppy. Last

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Speaker 1: good team, but they were so focused last night. Here's

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Speaker 3: And so it makes my job a lot easier when

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Speaker 3: I'm going to throw to some great ones. And let's

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Speaker 3: keep let's continue it, let's have some fun, and we've

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Speaker 1: That's the best team in the NFL right now, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs, one punt, no turnovers, no penalties, dominating an

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Speaker 1: West Seattle, San Francisco. Good teams and in both games,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was the difference. He's missing Mike Evans and

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving a Mecca. Buca got hurt

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Speaker 1: in the game. Baker willed his team to a w.

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Speaker 1: As you guys all know, this league is about toughness

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Speaker 1: and resilience. Don't be a victim. Deal with it. Baker's

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Speaker 1: and both caught their first career NFL touchdowns. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: a lot of these quarterbacks, I don't even need to

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Speaker 1: name them. They get coordinators fired, Baker Mayfield's last two coordinators,

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Speaker 1: he got head coaching jobs. And again, there's a quality

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Speaker 1: He just not everything has to be perfect. He never

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Speaker 1: plays the victim. It's like, what do I gotta work with?

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Speaker 1: All Right? Let's go that. He's never pointing fingers. Bakers like,

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Speaker 1: get on my back. This is a guy pulling. He's

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Speaker 1: pulling a team right now. They are a mess. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: they are falling out. He's using D two receivers and

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Speaker 1: he's beating Seattle in Seattle. You see what Seattle did

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Speaker 1: brock Pertes, guys are injured. Baker's like, yeah, what evs,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I don't think right now that Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: It's not a top ten roster. They're missing great players.

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Speaker 1: Pedal to the medal, head down, don'ts. Tampa's now five

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Speaker 1: His resilience is completely contagious and redeemable, and here he

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Speaker 5: I truly genuinely trust the guys that are in there.

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Speaker 4: They're ready.

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Speaker 1: We talked throughout the week.

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Speaker 5: Guys are on the same page, and that's real. I

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Speaker 5: trust these guys, even though some of them might not

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Speaker 5: have played a whole lot of ball. But we're four

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Speaker 5: on the same page. Good things happen. You don't have

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Speaker 5: to have the perfect play when all your guys are

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Speaker 5: And that's an example of that defense played great special

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Speaker 1: All right. Right now, Baker Mayfield, I think he's got

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Speaker 1: everybody's vote as the most valuable player to do it

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Speaker 1: with that beleaguered roster on the road, beating good teams,

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Speaker 1: beating really good defensive minds or defensive coordinators. Feel terrible

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Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Fred Warner's now injured. The whole team

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Speaker 1: is falling apart physically, all their stars. But that's you know,

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Speaker 1: we often asked ourselves, you know, what's a franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 1: What's the difference? The difference is when things aren't right.

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Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. Well, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you hear it from you know, for years and years. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't have Caleb's missing this, or Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart was missing that. Baker's missing everything. He's on the

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Speaker 1: road Seattle and San Francisco, were good, and he's willing

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Speaker 1: his team to win. He may not be the best athlete,

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Speaker 1: but on that one run he looked like it. That's

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Speaker 1: what a franchise quarterback is. You don't have your best

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Speaker 1: running back, you don't have your top three wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: you got a defensive coach, so it's your offense. That's

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Speaker 1: what an MVP looks like. That's what a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: looks like. It took Baker a while to get there

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland and Carolina and Los Angeles. Took him a

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Speaker 1: while to get there. Who cares some careers, You gotta

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Speaker 1: let him bake. But fantastic performance. Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 1: J Mack gotta say this, by the way, that was

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Speaker 1: that was in Tampa? Was it in Tampa? Samford said,

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Speaker 1: I watched so many damn games yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Say my bad, My bad on that, folks, My bad.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't it was in Tampa. I got I watched

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Speaker 1: thirteen games yesterday and nine the day before. I'm lost.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, the truth of the matter is Saul

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Speaker 1: is a great defensive coordinator. To go to Seattle, you're

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Speaker 1: facing McDonald. I mean, look what he did the Trevor

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Speaker 1: out there and pull that stuff is unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think I saw stat after Fred Warner

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Speaker 6: yards per place, something insane. Without Warner, the Niners have nothing,

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Speaker 6: no Bosa, no Warner. So I'm pumping the brakes on Baker.

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Speaker 6: He was fantastic again yesterday. Oh my god, he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: You could argue he's been the best quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: No, I don't even I don't even think. I think

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Speaker 1: you have to. You have to consider everything. You have

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Speaker 1: to consider it. You got to consider what you have.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Seattle win shocked this. I think you

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Speaker 1: I've got Washington tonight at home over Chicago. Bears don't

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Speaker 1: travel particularly well. I'm not sure if you caught this.

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Speaker 1: The Mariners, your guy Cal Ray, Well, all right, we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about. Speaking of quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, I thought that the Baker run may have

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Speaker 1: been the play of the day. How about the Justin

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Speaker 1: we come back. That is all time stuff. We talk

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Speaker 1: about this all the time. I like traits with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I like big, strong guys over small guys. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Baker's not the biggest guy, but he makes

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Speaker 1: he plays bigger than himself, right, bigger than his size.

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Speaker 1: What Justin Herbert did yesterday and one play, I looked

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Speaker 1: at it this morning on social media, switching hands during

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Speaker 8: You know, on a physical level, it just can't really

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Speaker 4: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 6: All right, Colin, Let's get started with your new number

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Speaker 4: In the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: It was an incident last night after the game. Brian

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Speaker 6: Goes up and just wax Juju Smith Schuster in the face. Now,

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Speaker 6: the reason that Branch went after Juju, and Juju Smith

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Speaker 10: Let me start with this. I love Brown Branch, but

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Speaker 10: That's not what we do here, and it's not going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, emotional intelligence is really important, and people

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Speaker 1: the reality. Game's over. I don't know if he'd be suspended.

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Speaker 4: Now, wast it? You and I have played sports.

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Speaker 6: We know in the key of the moment your mind.

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Speaker 6: Somebody's got to reel them in or he's got to

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Speaker 4: I can't do that. Juju didn't kind of hit him

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Speaker 4: Just a quick question. Are you sure the.

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Speaker 6: Chiefs beating the Lions makes them in the number one

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Speaker 1: It's not that they beat them, it's that they controlled them.

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Speaker 1: They're getting they're getting their left tackle, they're getting Rashee Rice.

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Speaker 1: it's hard to explain. I remember hearing this year. I

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Speaker 1: watching Mahomes, you're tell me that's not. I mean nothing

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Speaker 1: He literally sees the field better cognitively. He sees stuff

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Speaker 1: Jujo Smith. Schuster has done nothing every time he's with

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Speaker 6: I mean, is it possible the Lions were overvalued? They

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Speaker 1: They have really good players all over the field. They

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Speaker 1: Spags the airy thing. You notice it's almost like, I

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Speaker 6: I know you woke up at the butt crack of

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Speaker 6: the ball down the I'm sorry, Justin Fields was not

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Speaker 6: Here he is talking about Justin Fields and his comments

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Speaker 11: When you look at what Justin did the games that

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Speaker 11: and we can't have that, you know, and we have

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Speaker 11: he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I

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Speaker 1: It's not about that. What you have to do in

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Speaker 1: Denver was in his head, Denver was hammering him. He

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is an uneven quarterback. But it was remarkable.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't want to go to the backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I thought over the course of the game, I thought,

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Speaker 1: go to the veteran, bring it down, move the chains.

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Speaker 1: But I was sitting there like, dude, just get seven yards,

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Speaker 6: I love how you're saying, just get seven yards. They

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Speaker 6: That's fine, we know he's not great, But what the

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Speaker 6: Denver's offense ain't great, and they just basically hung around

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Speaker 4: The Jets had a chance.

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Speaker 6: But by the way, Denver's defense is a crazy staff.

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Speaker 4: That's how good this defense is.

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Speaker 6: So the idea that Justin Fields is going to go

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Speaker 6: He didn't lose the game for them. They were in

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Speaker 6: it until the end. This is a good loss, right,

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Speaker 6: you're winless, you're in line to get the number one pick.

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Speaker 4: You covered the spread.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not a good loss when your coach appears

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Speaker 6: Well, come on, he's a first year coach against Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: It's got a we don't know what we're doing. Is

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Speaker 1: that the worst thing in the world?

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Speaker 6: Code When you could get the number one pick because

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Speaker 6: you lose fourteen games, that's not the worst.

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Speaker 4: Thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying it is. But you would like

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Speaker 1: to not have to buy another coach and another set

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Speaker 1: of coordinators and more physician coaching. How many times can

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Speaker 1: you keep flushing this green toilet?

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Speaker 4: Well, well let's ask.

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Speaker 6: The owner, Woody Johnson, who keeps making horrible decisions. Final story,

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Speaker 6: Colin is two Major League Baseball. Your Mariners. Last night,

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Speaker 6: Cal Rawley did it again, hit a home run and

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Speaker 6: Jorge Polanco had two big hits. Yes, Seattle picking up

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Speaker 6: the three to one win. They steal Game one in Toronto.

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Speaker 4: Best you win for your Mariners.

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Speaker 1: That was where the Yankees got absolutely overwhelmed. I thought

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Speaker 1: Toronto was gonna win Game one. When you come out

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Speaker 1: of an emotional series, American League Championship series, I thought

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Speaker 1: Seattle was just going to get engulfed with the emotion

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Speaker 1: and the rest of Jays. That is a that could

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Speaker 1: be a series deciding win, gain even home field advantage

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Speaker 1: to Seattle. They played great at home. I have a

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Speaker 1: number somewhere today in my notes. Cal Rawley has been

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Speaker 1: great against the Jays all year. He is just eating

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Speaker 1: them up.

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Speaker 4: Game two today on Fox fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Look at this. I'll rally in the playoffs three obp

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Speaker 1: patting four hundred. Now, think about that, Think about the hitters.

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Speaker 1: Think about the Dodgers Phillies, all the great hitters, Trey Turner,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, O Tawny, Freddie Freeman. Like the Dodgers Philly

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Speaker 1: Stars could not hit. Cal Rawley's hitting four hundred against

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Speaker 1: elite pitching. That is that is Beer League numbers. That's

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Speaker 1: insane j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stubbing by the

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Speaker 2: heard line news.

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Speaker 1: See we have so much. I'll get to the James

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Speaker 1: Franklin getting fired. I wouldn't have done it, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. And everybody at Penn State, all the

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Speaker 1: insiders saying it was untenable you had to fire him.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. So I am going to shock

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Speaker 1: you that for the second straight time. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the Steeters and Aaron Rodgers. I've got positive vibes. They

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Speaker 1: beat Cleveland, they were gonna beat Cleveland twenty three to nine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, name Dylan Gabriel had no shot, totally engulfed.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has done two things

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Speaker 1: really well. Number One, he is fit into the Steelers culture.

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Speaker 1: He's not taking anything away. And secondly, he's made the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh offense smarter. Pittsburgh's offense is unique. It's got huge targets,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Hayward in Washington and DK Metcalf and Friarmouth.

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Speaker 1: It's got gigantic men. This is not like gadget receivers

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Speaker 1: like Kansas City's doing it with some smaller body types.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got massive size, and Aaron realizes that there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to take big risks down the field. For the

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Speaker 1: last seven eight years, I had said on this show,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh had playmakers defensively, but they just weren't They were

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Speaker 1: like tone death offensively. They just weren't very smart situationally.

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Speaker 1: So Aaron has fit in. It's not about Aaron. He's

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Speaker 1: fit in with a culture and he just made the

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Speaker 1: offense much smarter now now places like PFF or like

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Speaker 1: he didn't told them down the field on this team,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to This offense is big, strong and physical,

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching this team. He's not doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of wow stuff. He's doing a lot of Wei stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is for Pittsburgh. So you now they

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Speaker 1: couldn't beat Sam Darnold because I don't think I don't

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Speaker 1: think this team is going to beat the best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But in the AFC Norths right now, it's backups. So

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron has down shifted. He understands. He's a

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Speaker 1: smart guy. He understands what the team needs from me.

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Speaker 1: And in these games when you're facing Dylan Gabriel and backups,

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Speaker 1: what the team needs is the system, first downs, not

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Speaker 1: a lot of wow plays. I got big targets, and

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like you're throwing at defensive ends. This

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Speaker 1: whole team feels like a tight end, but effective productive enough.

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Speaker 1: I like what I see. You're getting his touch, his

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Speaker 1: accuracy in his IQ, and I think he's done a

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Speaker 1: great job. The numbers will tell you, well, he's not

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field. You know what, maybe

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Speaker 1: a younger Aaron Rodgers, when he was in his athletic prime,

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Speaker 1: would have been running around and running out of completions.

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Speaker 1: This errand for this team which has Mac trucks as

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Speaker 1: targets in Washington and DK metcalf, this is exactly the

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Speaker 1: offense you should run. Get some physical matchup advantages. You

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Speaker 1: can throw stuff underneath, your big guys can break tackles.

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by it. I know they may run

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Speaker 1: away with this division by Thanksgiving, but he's doing exactly that. Now,

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Speaker 1: that was a great throw in the end zone, across

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Speaker 1: your body. That's an air and throw. But he I

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Speaker 1: think he's really figured out the right tenor for this offense.

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Speaker 1: He's just moving the pocket enough. Here he was after.

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Speaker 12: I think we're playing playing pretty smart football. I think Art,

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Speaker 12: you know, got us into a good rhythm today. And

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Speaker 12: when we take care of the football and don't turn

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Speaker 12: it over, we're gonna have a chance any game. And

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Speaker 12: then if we can control line scrimmage, you know we're

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Speaker 12: gonna be planned downhill. I thought the key to the

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Speaker 12: last two games has been first and second down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it looks really good. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for years and years. You know, it's so funny. Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Aaron left the Jets and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: at the meeting with Aaron Glenn, I flew cross country

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Speaker 1: on my Gulf Stream or Citation or something, my private jet,

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Speaker 1: and I sat down for a meeting in twenty seconds later,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn said, we're gonna go in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron's like, that was weird. I watched the Jets yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They're weird. Aaron's not. Aaron went to Pittsburgh and he

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Speaker 1: just he's taken this week. The Steelers offense for like

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Speaker 1: seven years, they can't run the ball, just fight using

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Speaker 1: draft capital on the old line and a running back.

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Speaker 1: You're like, well, why aren't they more effective? They just

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Speaker 1: weren't smart enough, and he's a trick and he deserves

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Speaker 1: a ton of credit. Coming up next, another track meet

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Speaker 1: involving the Dallas Cowboys. James Franklin gets fired. And there

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Speaker 1: was a play last night in the Lions Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: There was a singular play that defines why Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna win another Super Bowl. Oh, it makes you uncomfortable,

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Speaker 6: A fight for the American League Crown continues as cal

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Speaker 1: Brewers beat the Mariners in six in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how good I feel about that. After

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers appear to have solved their bull pen. Probably

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Speaker 1: go with Los Angeles, but be that as it may.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys lost yesterday, and they lost because their

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Speaker 1: defense is a quarterback stimulus package. Everybody, everybody. Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: has never been more comfortable. He couldn't have been more

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Speaker 1: comfortable sitting on a couch watching the game. Dak is

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Speaker 1: on fire. Eleven total touchdowns, no picks, last three starts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dak is absolutely on fire. He's playing great football,

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Speaker 1: but he can't play linebacker. Maybe they should consider it

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Speaker 1: right now. The Cowboys allow opposing quarterbacks one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventeen passer rating, and I'm told by my team this

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Speaker 1: morning that's the highest since they have kept track of

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Speaker 1: that stat There's never been a defense this bad. But

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Speaker 1: I said, when they traded Micah, you're gonna lose this

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Speaker 1: trade for a year. It's the Shaq Kobe trade. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose it for a year. Remember when they shipped,

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Speaker 1: they chose we got a move Shack, not co And

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years it looked really bad because

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Speaker 1: the Heat were ready to win a title. But the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have two first round picks. It is a draft

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Speaker 1: that is rich at corner and edge rusher, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to use all their picks in the first several

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Speaker 1: rounds the draft of defense. They don't need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Dak is healthy and playing great. Did George Pickens move?

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Speaker 1: You know, I looked at it and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: Pickens is a one year deal. I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: Now Dak's maturity has really tempered. George Pickens kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, high maintenance. So maybe that's a tantem that works.

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Speaker 1: You can pay two receivers. I mean, you got to

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Speaker 1: hit on some free labor in the draft. But I

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Speaker 1: watched Dallas's offense, they look reasonably well coached. Dak's on fire,

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Speaker 1: but this defense made Rico Dowdell look like Earl Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I mean they gave him the ball thirty times you

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Speaker 1: rush from were two one hundred yards almost. So again

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Speaker 1: it's a track meet and Dallas has only one way

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Speaker 1: to win. Now, They've got to hit the rip. Been

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Speaker 1: first at the track meet and they didn't. Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: did and here's Dak after that.

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Speaker 4: One says it's demoralizing.

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Speaker 9: Excuse me, but I'd definitely say it's frustrating, right like

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Speaker 9: just even the last time you have the ball were

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Speaker 9: probablys are not our best series of the game. If

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Speaker 9: we don't score, last thing I'm doing is being frustrated

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Speaker 9: at the defense.

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Speaker 4: That's that's my problem.

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Speaker 1: That's our problem.

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Speaker 9: That's somebody on offense or you know, something that we

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Speaker 9: didn't do better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk about in that game last night.

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Speaker 1: So remember a couple of weeks ago, Kansas City goes

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Speaker 1: they lose the Jacksonville but it's it really is the

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Speaker 1: foundational piece of Kansas City. They are so good situationally.

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Speaker 1: So there was a play that was called a pick

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, this

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Speaker 1: is not a pick. It's within a yard of the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. That's legal. Travis Kelsey knew it. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: knew it, Andy Reid knew it. They all all were pointing, no, no,

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Speaker 1: mister official, you're wrong on that. It's within one yard

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Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. They knew the rules better

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Speaker 1: than the officials. And this is very Belichickian. Back in

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Speaker 1: New England, Brady and Belichick, Josh McDaniel, they knew the

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Speaker 1: rule book better than the officials and they tinkered with

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Speaker 1: it and they manipulated it. So Kansas City knew no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that pick is legal, and they were right. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Detroit gets into one of these plays and I think

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Speaker 1: Detroit's well coached, but the Jared Goff touchdown when he

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Speaker 1: goes out to the flat. No, they practiced that thing

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Speaker 1: ten times. It's illegal. You got to get that buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: You can't run that play more than once a year,

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Speaker 1: and when you run it, you got to get it

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Speaker 1: buttoned up. It's an old rule that goes back to

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Speaker 1: t formation, where GoF has to stop for at least

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00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: a second. He just can't go in motion and curl off.

644
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: He has to stop and set. It's kind of a

645
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: specific to quarterback rule from the the Lost Ages, the

646
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: halcyon days of football. So again, in both instances near

647
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: the goal line, huge situational play. Kansas City against the

648
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: Jags knew the rule book better than the official Detroit

649
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: just a little play, was not buttoned up and didn't

650
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: know the rules specifically. And to me, I mean, you

651
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: start watching these games, I mean games that should be

652
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: thirty to nothing like they're not. The Jets and Denver.

653
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Denver is so much better, and Denver's incredibly well coached.

654
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Denver had the better everything it comes down to, like

655
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: situational coaching, situational quarterbacking these Super Bowls. There was a

656
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: period for about ten years where all the Super Bowls

657
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: were blowouts. The Cowboys were in a few of them

658
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: when them That's not the way it is now generally speaking.

659
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Now Kansas City has gotten their boat raced in a

660
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: couple of Super Bowls because they couldn't get the left

661
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: tackle right. But by and large, these games are decided

662
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: on these little situational, circumstantial plays, moments understanding the rules.

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00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: Kansas City's great at it. They knew this pick was legal.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you they went to the rule book because

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00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: the minute that play happened, they were all pointed at

666
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: the reft. No pick the flag up. So it's just,

667
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, not the end of the world, but it Detroit,

668
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: you gotta get that right. That's a play that you

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00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: run to Jared Goff one time a year. You can't

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00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: run it again. It's like Philly Special. You get one

671
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: of those every couple of seasons. You better have it

672
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: buttoned up. So Penn State, it's as strange it really

673
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: is to me, lost three straight close games. Now they

674
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: lost to Northwestern. They lost as a huge favorite out West.

675
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: Although I will tell you in college football, traveling three

676
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: thousand miles, nothing feels like an upset. That's why what

677
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Indiana did to Oregon this weekend is unbelievable. College teams

678
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: are young men. They do not travel as well as professionals.

679
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: In the NFL home field. I mean, Seattle can go

680
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: all the way to Jacksonville, it doesn't matter. It just

681
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But in college you know, you travel to

682
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: UCLA off that Oregon loss, it's not that shocking they lost.

683
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's shocking now losing the Northwestern Apparently James

684
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Franklin and the athletic director got into a shouting match

685
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: in the locker room. But here's why I worry about it,

686
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the old substitute teacher rule. If you're gonna spare no

687
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: expense to fire a coach, and they paid Franklin fifty

688
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: large fifty million, then you better spare no expense to

689
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: hire the next coach. What happens in the next six

690
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: weeks if Penn State goes five and one or four

691
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: and two, because they got the players and all the

692
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: players are going to protest. We want the interim coach.

693
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: We want the interim guy. What do you do? We're

694
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna transfer. I'm telling you these athletic departments they bow,

695
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: They bow to pressure. So when you fire a coach,

696
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: just know that, like the substitute teacher, everybody loves the

697
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: interim coach. They come in, everybody's on their best behavior,

698
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: everybody's working their butt off. Generally, the interim is not

699
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: as harsh, it's not as bleak or intimidating or as

700
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: punitive as the head coach. Everybody's playing their hardest. They

701
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: want to curry favor with the new guys backups think

702
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: to have a chance to start, and you go in

703
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: a little heater, You go in a three game, four

704
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: game winning streak, and then the players are like, this

705
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: is our guy or we're transfer and then your trapp.

706
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna spare no expense to fire James,

707
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: you better spare no expense to hire the next guy.

708
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: So you know, at Michigan hardball, leaves who was popular, well,

709
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: the popular assistant so far doesn't look very good. Now

710
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: it's too early to make a call. Bryce Underwood, marsh

711
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: two of their best players. You know their kids. Underwood's

712
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: a freshman. They got a lot of good young players

713
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Michigan brand. They still recruit well. But I always worry

714
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: about it. That's how Antonio Pierce got hired by the Raiders.

715
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: If you fire too early, it's one thing. If you

716
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: fire and there's two three games left, there's no pressure

717
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: on an athletic department to hire the guy. You hire

718
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: with six games left or seven games left, and you

719
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: win a bowl game, you go four and two, Maybe

720
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: you upset a good team. Everybody's like, has the guy?

721
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Is he really the guy? Or is he the guy?

722
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: The roster the substitute teacher that everybody loves. So I

723
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: think it's dangerous. Bruce Feldman will stop by later in

724
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: the show to talk about it. I think you get

725
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: into really dicey spots. I was shocked by it. I mean,

726
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: they won thirteen games last season. They've had double digit

727
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: wins multiple seasons. He's a great recruiter. Now there's an

728
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: argument it was, you know, just stuff gets untenable. Okay,

729
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm not close enough to the program to know. I

730
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: went online this weekend. Nobody on the message board, everybody

731
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: in the reddit sites wants him gone. But just be careful.

732
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: You guys all wanted Ryan daygone in Columbus before that

733
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee game last year when you lost to Michigan by twenty,

734
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: y'all wanted Ryan Day out. That's funny. You kind of

735
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: like Ryan Day. Now. Ohio State won it last year,

736
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: probably gonna want it this year. Gotta be careful. Listen

737
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: to the fan base. J Mac crazy weekend. What was

738
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: your favorite? What was your favorite game this weekend? We

739
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: both had a very.

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Speaker 4: Can I go with Penn State losing as my favorite game?

741
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Speaker 6: The James Franklis I mean, we talked about this college's insane.

742
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: How rapidly that accelerated it can?

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Speaker 6: I also hit up somebody who's in the college football

744
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 6: coaching industry, shall we say, and he gave me a name.

745
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: You want it, yeah, Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Keep an

746
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 6: eye on him, young guy, very sharp previously at Notre Dame.

747
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: Vanderbilt is pretty damn good this year on a good run.

748
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Speaker 6: I would keep an eye on him. I know you

749
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: liked the Indiana coach as well.

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Speaker 1: Listen, the Indiana coach should not lead and will not leave. Well,

751
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: he's making eighteen years old. I don't know. I mean

752
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: he's making eight million. It's his program. They just went

753
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: to Oregon and won. Why can't they win with a

754
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: transfer portal in the nil If you have support from

755
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: your donor base, why do you have to go to Alabama?

756
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Alabama doesn't have the money of right now, of USC,

757
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: they don't have the money of Notre Dame. They don't

758
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: have the money of Oregon. Alabama now looks pretty ordinary?

759
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Why they don't have the donors to step up?

760
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: They're not ordinary? The kid Tie Simpsons.

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: Amazing, he's good. He may go, he may go higher

762
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: in the draft, go to the mock drafts, he's a

763
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: first rounder. Our two Colin right, Colin wrong, and the

764
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: money