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Speaker 1: was Steve Tasker. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's a

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Speaker 1: and how about this? Did anybody think about this vert? You?

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Speaker 1: You know, football listeners, viewers, you know how it goes.

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Speaker 1: about the lot over the next month. But our poll today,

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Speaker 1: in an effort to kind of move away from pass

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Speaker 1: interference and replay, we got to pull the deals with

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Speaker 1: the draft. We're exactly one month away from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: One month from Round one of the NFL Draft, and

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Speaker 1: we got talking about it. This is how these Twitter poles,

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Speaker 1: these show topics come about. We talk about stuff, we

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Speaker 1: argue about. We had a big argument today about mostly

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Speaker 1: the Sabers, didn't we got it was pretty passionate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were pretty loud. I'm a Sabers guy. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying vaughan does not equal correctness. I think

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Speaker 1: I said just because you're loud doesn't mean you're correct.

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Speaker 1: I think I finally say, it just means I'm not

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Speaker 1: in doubt. Anyway, This was a argument today, discussion today.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen. Draft Round one is one month away. Look,

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Speaker 1: they made what twelve editions in free agency over the

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Speaker 1: last month or so, right, it might be thirteen. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about the Sabers now, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: about the Bills. They may all those editions have been

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Speaker 1: made since free agency began. You get a sense of

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Speaker 1: what the roster will look like, and you know the

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Speaker 1: Bills have ten draft picks coming up right, one pick

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Speaker 1: in each the first three rounds and then seven picks

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Speaker 1: and rounds four through US seven. That's a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: On Day three. Here's the question how important is the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft coming up at a month to the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. We know they're gonna we know it's

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Speaker 1: important ten players right now. Maybe they get ten, maybe

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Speaker 1: they get more, maybe they get less. We know it's

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Speaker 1: important for the franchise overall. Right, a draft like this,

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Speaker 1: ten picks, you're gonna add talent. Maybe they blossom this year,

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't. But how important is the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: draft to this upcoming bill season? In other words, can

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Speaker 1: they get players in this draft in a month that

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Speaker 1: will impact the twenty nineteen one loss record? Think about

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Speaker 1: it in those terms. Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty the number all three one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five two five fifty. You can vote in the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll, right, Do we have a vote? No, it's no.

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Speaker 1: Vote is an opinion only in an opinions. Or you

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Speaker 1: can send in a tweet and we'll read it on

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Speaker 1: the air and we get it too. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of permutations this For obviously a number nine pick overall

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, you expect that guy to contribute

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Speaker 1: for years and years down the road. You expect him

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the franchise for quite some

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Speaker 1: time now, but we're talking about just this season, and

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Speaker 1: what I guess that basically, if you want to put

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Speaker 1: this question into another term, how many wins or losses

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Speaker 1: are in that draft class? Yeah, that's that's it. This year?

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Speaker 1: How many wins are losses this draft class gonna mean

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Speaker 1: for this team this year? As your what's your expectation

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Speaker 1: the number nine overall pick. I think it depends if

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna go offense or defense. You think

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Speaker 1: a guy like DK Metcalf's gonna come in, catch thirteen

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Speaker 1: fifteen touchdown passes for jo from Josh Allen and win

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Speaker 1: a couple three games or score enough points to help

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Speaker 1: the Bills be able to win a couple three extra

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Speaker 1: games or one extra game. The second round draft pick

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Speaker 1: number forty overall, what do you take? You know, do

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Speaker 1: you get an edge rusher or do you get an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher in the first round? And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the defense is just as good as it was a

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Speaker 1: year ago, even with more turnovers and more sacks. So

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Speaker 1: what are your expectations? And I guess that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: How many wins and losses for twenty nineteen are wrapped

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Speaker 1: up in the ten picks they have in this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: and it's only this year that we're discussing. Look, look,

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Speaker 1: they're going to draft people in the fifth round, sixth round.

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Speaker 1: They may be contributors this year. They may be even

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Speaker 1: more likely to be a contributor down the road late

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Speaker 1: round picks, but certainly the top round picks are I

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Speaker 1: think of it in terms of, even you know the

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Speaker 1: position they draft, if they draft a wide receiver, and

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Speaker 1: with what we know about development time typically for an

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Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver, if they draft a wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: number nine overall, do you expect that guy to impact

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Speaker 1: the one lost record this year? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they do. On the other hand, if they draft an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, a pass rush specialist, that guy might have

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Speaker 1: a better chance of having an impact on this year's

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Speaker 1: one lost record. I agree, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, there's yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the guy. You can make it a case

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Speaker 1: either way, the wide receiver helping him score more points

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Speaker 1: than they were able to last year. Knowing the defense

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Speaker 1: is at least going to be solid like it was

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Speaker 1: a year ago. We have You know, you lose, you

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Speaker 1: lose Kyle Williams upfront, but you also gain EJ. Gains Back,

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Speaker 1: You've got Tarren Johnson coming back, You've got some guy,

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Speaker 1: You've got a depth in your defensive backfield. You know

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano's coming back, He's gonna be back strong. You're

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, Lorenzo Alexander, you got all these guys back

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Speaker 1: on defense that it should be a year that they

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Speaker 1: can build off of what they did a year ago

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Speaker 1: and hopefully get more turnovers and more sacks. And if

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Speaker 1: you throw in a wide receiver on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the football, a guy to go deep, a guy

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Speaker 1: that can catch the intermediate routes, a guy that accentuates

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's strengths, maybe the team does score on on

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Speaker 1: average maybe what six more points a game, eight more

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Speaker 1: points a game than they were able to this last year.

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Speaker 1: You do that and couple with that defense, that turns

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Speaker 1: into what two wins more, three wins more, five wins more?

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Speaker 1: What your opinion? That's and that's really the question. Give

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Speaker 1: us your thoughts on that. Call us up eight h

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or twelve three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. How important is the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft to the twenty nineteen season. Let's discuss,

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Speaker 1: for instance, we know that today it's reported anyway that

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Speaker 1: Bill's head coach Sean McDermott is on the road at

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Speaker 1: a pro day attending the University of Houston Cougars. They're

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Speaker 1: at the Cougars, right, Yeah, yeah, pro day in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Why you gotta believe it's for the big guy at

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Speaker 1: Oliver right, the defensive tackle, the potential three technique that

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Speaker 1: might fit in for the Bills at the number nine

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Speaker 1: spot on the first round. Who just ran a four

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Speaker 1: seven one in his forty a pro day, Okaymot attending

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Speaker 1: that pro day, I mean that's it says a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the importance they might put on this guy

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Speaker 1: and the fact that this might be their guy in

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Speaker 1: the first round. There at least the head coaches at

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Speaker 1: the pro day today, Right, you get your attention. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he's the guy number nine, does he have an

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Speaker 1: impact on this year's one lost record? You gotta believe

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Speaker 1: he would. You gotta believe he would. Right, if it's

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver or or even you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it'll be a tight end, But if it is

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Speaker 1: a tight end at number ninety, might have less of

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Speaker 1: an impact on this year's one lost record. The draft,

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Speaker 1: Round one is a month away from today, and we're

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Speaker 1: asking you, what do you think how important is this

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Speaker 1: year's draft overall to this year's one loss record eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five. There's a lot of directions

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Speaker 1: you can take this and go. It's it's fun to

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Speaker 1: think about. Already, in from sipping the Koola says, it's

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Speaker 1: incredibly important. This draft is incredibly important. We currently have

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Speaker 1: three picks in the first three rounds, seven picks and

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Speaker 1: rounds four through seven. I believe this will change as

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Speaker 1: the draft approaches. I'm interested to see how Bean creates

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Speaker 1: more picks in the first three rounds via trade and

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Speaker 1: or with our late round picks. So there's one one

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Speaker 1: viewer that a listener that thinks it'll change it more

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Speaker 1: when the Bills get more picks on the first day. Look,

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Speaker 1: don't be confused. Nobody is saying the draft is not important.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's critically important. It is the most important

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Speaker 1: offseason event for the Bills and everybody else. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the impact that will have on this year's record.

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Speaker 1: In other words, are they drafting somebody or two or

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Speaker 1: three this year this year who will have an impact

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Speaker 1: on how many games they win this year? So think

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Speaker 1: about it in those terms. Yeah, and it's it's also

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Speaker 1: true too that Listen, we're talking to Bills fans who

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Speaker 1: know what the Bills have done in free agency. They've

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Speaker 1: signed all these guys at crucial positions. They've filled at

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Speaker 1: least partially filled a number of holes they had, particularly

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side, well with Cole Beasley and John

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Speaker 1: Brown all the offensive lineman they've signed, which you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole list of guys like that. So I

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Speaker 1: knowing what you know about the Bills roster now and

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Speaker 1: what a difference, how different it looks. Does that take

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Speaker 1: the you know, does that take the pressure off of

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Speaker 1: having to get a guy who's absolutely a kingpin in

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Speaker 1: the draft? I don't know. Maybe it does, and if

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Speaker 1: they you know, if it does, do they need those

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Speaker 1: guys to really win as many games as they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win Anyway, with what they've done in free agency, there's

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Speaker 1: certainly this draft class is going to have some effect

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Speaker 1: on how this team plays this season. Whether these guys

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Speaker 1: are young or whatever, whatever position they play, but how

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Speaker 1: big effect do you think it's gonna have given what

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Speaker 1: they've already done in free agency. Give us a call,

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss eight three five fifty and toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. That's the layout.

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Speaker 1: We're just getting started here. We're coming back and Jake

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Speaker 1: Fisher literally signed Bills tight end schedule to join us

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Speaker 1: when we return. Come on back for that. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. It's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the Big Show,

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Speaker 1: and I mean big, big Show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We're waiting to

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Speaker 1: hear from Jake Fisher, builds new tight end, former offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle in his fifth year in the league, former second

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Speaker 1: round pick out of Oregon. He's going to join us

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Speaker 1: in a moment or two, and maybe somebody else coming

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Speaker 1: up this hour as well. So, like in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: so this guy, Jake Fisher, his bio picture is an offense.

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Speaker 1: He's like, we're in number seventy four. He's gonna make

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Speaker 1: the transition. So in nineteen twenty fifteen, as a member

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals. He catches a pass we lined up

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Speaker 1: as an extra tight end as a wide receiver, goes

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Speaker 1: thirty one yards. It's the longest catch by an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL since nineteen eighty eight. Wow, So

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Speaker 1: now he's a tight So he said, hey, I can

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Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna switch positions. Well, let's ask him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I want to get to talk

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Speaker 1: to him to find out. And that's you know, you're

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Speaker 1: drafted in the second round as a tackle, and four

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Speaker 1: years into your NFL care you say, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try this tight end thing. He's caught two passes

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Speaker 1: over his career for forty three yards and what do

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Speaker 1: you say, thirty five on that one? Thirty thirty one

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Speaker 1: so another than an eight yard or twelve yard reception

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Speaker 1: on the other one. Yeah, so ain't had a ton

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Speaker 1: of receptions. He was an All American at Oregon, second

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Speaker 1: round pick, so, um, you know, playing on really good

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Speaker 1: college teams at Oregon. Yeah, he wasn't getting done as

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Speaker 1: an offensive line and he started twelve games out of

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Speaker 1: forty eight possible in his career. So he said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we've seen another place that we've seen. You know,

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Speaker 1: guys moved from quarterback to wide receiver and tight end

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff, So why not certainly he could play.

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Speaker 1: Certainly he could be an end man on the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Is a tight end? I guess right? Yeah,

639
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: with all his training. So we'll see if Jake Fisher

640
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: are gonna have him on in a few minutes hopefully. Hey,

641
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Speaker 1: our Twitter question today, not a pole. Our Twitter question

642
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: a month away from the NFL draft. How important is

643
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen draft to this year's one loss record?

644
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: How important is the Bill's draft upcoming a month away

645
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: to the twenty nineteen season. Give us a call. The

646
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: lines are wide open eight oh three oh five fifty

647
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Speaker 1: or twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty two

648
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Speaker 1: five fifty On the tweet sheet from John Dubik says

649
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: it's very important to find at least two starters for

650
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: next season, but I feel it's even more important to

651
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: build depth for not only next season, but also for

652
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: future seasons. And we acknowledge that, John. That's what leads

653
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Speaker 1: us to the question. Look, I would submit Steve that

654
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: you're you're likely to get more of an impact on

655
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Speaker 1: this year's one loss record. Twenty nineteen record from the

656
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: free agency class from the people that were signed a

657
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, including uh, you know Morse the

658
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: tackle and some of the other offensive lineman from Beasley

659
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: and John Brown, Um from Tyler Croft EJ. Gaines. Yeah,

660
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: you're looking at people. Those people I think are gonna

661
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: have in general, more of an impact on this year's

662
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: one loss record, this year's success or failure in twenty

663
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: nineteen than the people will come in the draft. We

664
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Speaker 1: all know the draft is critical to build the team.

665
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: You got ten picks too, you can really build the

666
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: team and look into the future. But I think John

667
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: Dubick might be right about that it's important to find

668
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: at least two starters for this upcoming season. I guess

669
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Speaker 1: i'd ask what two positions are you thinking? Yeah, and

670
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: I've really given that much thought. That's a critical star.

671
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: That's the critical question because I don't know if you

672
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: get If you draft an edge Russia, is he gonna

673
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: start right away? He'd better be pretty good if he does. Really,

674
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: he's going to be part of the rotation, no question,

675
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: But is he going to be the guy you line

676
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: up on you know, first and ten, second and eight

677
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: and third and seven. Maybe I don't know. I got

678
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: another one, got another one from Wandering Jacket's paramount, what

679
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: how is important to this year's draft? To the Bills

680
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season, It's paramount what did the Bills? What

681
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: the Bills did in free agency was great, addressing many needs,

682
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: filling holes, but didn't answer didn't add any star power.

683
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Being put the Bills in a position to add the

684
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: best players available in the first few rounds, and those

685
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: guys could be stars Ed Oliver for example, and then

686
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: build depth in the later rounds. Yeah, I mean that's

687
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: it's a big question. I guess, A good question, really

688
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: good question. Two. We'll get more on that in a moment.

689
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: We've got a guest on line with us right now.

690
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: We're just talking about him. He just signed a contract

691
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills last week? Was it last week?

692
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: March twenty second? Happy to have Bill's new tight end,

693
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Jake Fisher on the line with this, Jake John Murphy

694
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo Arn'chard Park with Steve Tasker. Thanks very

695
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We appreciate it. Were you you're

696
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: in Michigan, who live in Michigan, Den? Then is that right? Jake.

697
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Guys. I'm actually currently in just

698
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati trying to pack our stuff up and move up

699
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. There you go. You're gonna drive up by yourselves.

700
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: My girlfriend will probably come up with me the first

701
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: weekend help unpacking. What all right? Man? Good luck? That'll

702
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: be great. I've made that trip, actually, I'll have from

703
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: time to time. Yeah, yeah, what'd you think of it?

704
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Why Buffalo? What brought you here to Buffalo? Jake? When

705
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: I got there, I really just had an open mind

706
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: towards the situation I'm in coming in with, you know,

707
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: a new new position, new mentality, and they're open to

708
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: it as well. And just seeing the people, meeting the people,

709
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: seeing the facilities and what they're kind of bringing in,

710
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: I was excited. Why are you changing positions? For me,

711
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: it's more of like, what are you passionate about in life?

712
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: And if you're not waking up, you know, chasing what

713
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: you want to chase, then you need to switch it up.

714
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: And for me, that's what it was. I'm passionate about

715
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: blocking and you know, being that tight end guy and

716
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: I kind of fell in love with the last few years.

717
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Get an opportunity. He's reminded me of kind of my

718
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: high school early on days and just revamp that passion.

719
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: What did the Bills tell you when you said that's

720
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: the deal? How How did I know you said? They

721
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: were seemed open minded about it? What they say? Um,

722
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: it really just comes down to, am I going to

723
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: have a fair opportunity to play and they're willing to

724
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: give me in that opportunity. I think they see the

725
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: intangibles that are there and the things that could be

726
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: worked on, and from both of us, I mean, we're

727
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: both excited to get started. Jake, help me understand why

728
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: it's I know, I know there's a different than the

729
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: way you would block as a tight end and as

730
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. But how could you be passionate about

731
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: the tight end way of blocking and maybe not so

732
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: much as an offensive tackle. What's the difference? What's the

733
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: what's the different look that you would get from those

734
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: two positions. You look at successful tackles in the league.

735
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: You know there's a few guys like Lane Johnson who

736
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: are three ten, three or five. The majority of the

737
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 1: guys are you know, three forty three fifty that are

738
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: really successful. Um, guys like Taylor one that are super

739
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: athletic at three tea three twenty and I just really

740
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: couldn't maintain that weight. I tried. I put a lot

741
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: of time and effort into it. Everybody that knows me

742
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: and have seen me eat, it's you go to dinner,

743
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, three or four plates of food to

744
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: maintain two ninety five three hundred. So for me, it's

745
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: a good transition to cut that weight that I was

746
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: carrying that wasn't really natural weight. I'm down to like

747
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: two seventy three today, so it's it's been a good

748
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: transition for me. Yeah, Now what do you what do

749
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: you expect to play at it tight end? And how

750
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: what do you How have your training methods changed since

751
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: this has been decided on. It's really not a whole

752
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: lot of training that's different, besides you know, adding in

753
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: routes and different agility and like catching and things like that,

754
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot of different hit movements and things like that.

755
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: But from a training aspect, it's really just eating balanced

756
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: meals three or four times it's six times a day

757
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: that are smaller, um, just being more to natural weight,

758
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: being able to move to yeah, you know, bend my

759
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: hips a lot better, and things like that. So it's

760
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: coming together. What do you think you're gonna play at?

761
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: What weight? Um? Well, I'm not really sure you I

762
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: want to be down to two sixty five coming into

763
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: OTAs in a couple of weeks, and then you're just

764
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: going to reevaluate after that. Yeah, the coaches kind of

765
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: just said, well, won't you ate your weight? See how

766
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: you do with certain things. You still got to move

767
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: people off the ball and the point of attack and

768
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: things like that. So let's kind of see what's what's

769
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: the most successful wait for me and go from there. Jake,

770
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: in any sense, in any sense, do you think, man,

771
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I should have done this sooner. I mean, you've been

772
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: in the league for a while, four years at Cincinnati. Uh,

773
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, did do you ever think yourself, this is

774
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: a change I should have made a couple of years ago. Maybe, Um,

775
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: I hate to say that what is and whatnot? But

776
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I would have to say, yeah, I should have just

777
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: went full bore when I you know, kind of had

778
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: it in my mind and stead of just fishing out.

779
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: But I was contracted out, and you know, I was

780
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: passionate about what I'm doing no matter what it is.

781
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: I had an accountability to my teammates and you know,

782
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: responsibility to my team. So that's really what it came

783
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: down to. Let me encourage you, Jake, I'll tell you

784
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 1: it's it's great. I think that you're doing this. Plus,

785
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I think the four years you've already had in the

786
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: league headed into your fifth year, you know what it

787
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: is to be a pro football player. Now you can

788
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: make it a transition makes it harder on anybody, let

789
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: alone a guy who doesn't know the ropes. And you've

790
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: been around the block a couple of times. That's going

791
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: to help you mentally in this transition, is it not? Oh? Absolutely?

792
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: You know we kind of talked about with the coaches

793
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: as well. It's you know, you could see it as

794
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: getting a veteran player or a young player from the draft,

795
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: but with me, you're kind of getting both. You're getting

796
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: a four year experienced guy, young young, and his early

797
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: in his career, and you know he's still had a

798
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: lot of experience. So I'm excited about it, Jake. Um.

799
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if you mentioned that you approach blocking differently

800
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: as a tight end and as a tackle, and that's good.

801
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: Do you think about past receptions? Also, Steve made mention

802
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of your rookie year a thirty one yard pass reception

803
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Obviously, the Bills can't use you just

804
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: as a one dimensional tight end, right, They're gonna have

805
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: to use in the passing game. Oh. Absolutely, It's part

806
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: of the position. It's part of my job, and I'll

807
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: be accountable in all aspects of the game. Tell me

808
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: about the experience at Oregon. You must have played with

809
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly there for Chip Kelly, with Mariota in that

810
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: group when you were there. I did, Yes, I mean

811
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: I had an unbelievable experience when I was at Oregon.

812
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Kind of just did just played tackle there, but with

813
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that offense. I mean I kind of ran like a

814
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: tight end, block like a tight end. Yeah. So I

815
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: think that'll all transition very well. I got to play

816
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: with some unbelievable players, unbelievable coaches. Steve Greatwood as the

817
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Oline coach, you know, Chip coach Helfridge. They're all a

818
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: definite blessing in a growing, growing mind. Let me ask

819
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: you this, and I don't want to get off the

820
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: subject of your career exactly, but I do want to

821
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: ask you. You you played in chip Kelly's offense. You

822
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: watched it then you saw him go to Philadelphia and

823
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: watch that and how it came up Hartne. He's not

824
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: there anymore and it didn't work. Do you think that

825
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the kind of offense that he ran at Oregon with

826
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotte and all those guys, why didn't it work

827
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL under him when he was in Philadelphia?

828
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: And do you think it could with somebody else or

829
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: in under other circumstances. Like I said before, I can't

830
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: really get into what ifs. I can only speak on,

831
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, the present and what I've seen in the past.

832
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: I think with Philadelphia and the NFL structure, it's hard

833
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: because you don't have depth of positions that you normally would,

834
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and you kind of can't control the whole aspect of

835
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: things with who's on your roster. And can you get

836
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: guys that buy in. When we were in that college

837
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: realm was you know, younger players. We all bought into

838
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: his concept and his mindset and that's what made us successful.

839
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: And I think point you can get to the league

840
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of ingrained with what they do,

841
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: how they think. Some of them murray and a growth

842
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: mindset some of them are. So it's hard to really

843
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: get guards to buy in some aspects of life. Jake,

844
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: you said you're packing. You said you're packing, You're getting

845
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: ready to get up here. I would think in the

846
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: next week or two were the Bills. Yeah, I hope

847
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: you too. Great. We hope to see when you get

848
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: you when you get here, very much, Jake, absolutely, thank you.

849
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Speaker 1: Jake Fisher, Bill's tight end going into his fifth season

850
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That is an interesting transition and an

851
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: interesting weight loss from rare that you see well, we

852
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: saw well rinso Alexander, our guy did it in his career.

853
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: Jake says he wants to play two sixty five listed

854
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: on paper is two eighty two. Said he was trying

855
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: to keep his weight in the low three hundreds while

856
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: he was trying to play offensive line in since two

857
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: seventy three today eight more pounds. Let's skip breakfast here, right,

858
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Jake Fisher are joining us now one of the newer

859
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. He is. There's another new guy just announced.

860
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: So Noris Perry, running back special teamer, just announced that

861
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: he has signed with the Buffalo Bills and he's going

862
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: to join us when we come back after this break.

863
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: It is one Bill's live from One Bill's Drive. John

864
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Murphy was Deep Tasker. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Enter

865
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: Back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills

866
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Live on this Thursday afternoon. The Bill is still busy

867
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: in free agency, signed a running back special teamer and

868
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: what do you know, he's sitting here on set with

869
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: us Sonoris Perry is with us, Sonoris, Welcome to the show.

870
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming by here, Thank you for having this

871
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: all happened pretty quickly. Ham. When did you just come

872
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: to Buffalo today? That's just got here last night late

873
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: last night. Did you know you're gonna be on TV

874
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: and radio? It look fine? You spent you spent last year,

875
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: last four years with Miami Dolphins. He's last three years

876
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: spent with Miami. And so you've played the Bills number

877
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: of times you played in this game up here, the

878
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: last game of the season this last year, and you

879
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: played for Adam Gayes, who's now the jet head cod

880
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: We're having all this conversations, but in the break, what's

881
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: it like? Why Buffalo? What do you think when you

882
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: showed up here? And what was the vibe like? Man,

883
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: the vibe, the culture chains that's what got mean to

884
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: talking to everybody. It's exciting to be a part of

885
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: something that's wanting and you want the process to go

886
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to. It's unbelievable. Where do you

887
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: get the vibe and the culture change vibe when you're here?

888
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: And really, there's not a whole lot of players here

889
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: right now. But it's not a whole lot of players.

890
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: I've met a few players. I'm at the cornerback Tevis White.

891
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: I met Lorenzo Alexander. I met a few other guys

892
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: as well in the locker room. One of the other

893
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: corners from Alabama. I seem to forgot his name already

894
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: because Levi Wallace. Yes. And the culture changed so far. Man,

895
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just everybody want to build off something, and you

896
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: want to build off something that you had last year.

897
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: If I went the Bills, I would put Lorenzo Alexander

898
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: at the front door like the greeder at Walmart. And seriously,

899
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: what a better Probably the best representative of the best

900
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: spokesman they could find as far as another player telling

901
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: you what it's like, right, Oh yeah, great guy, I'm

902
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: a great special teamer as well, So you can learn

903
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: off that one. Going on, we found out as well.

904
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: You had played a number of time some years with

905
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: Preston Brown, who is a former Buffalo bill here nights

906
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. A good report about what Buffalo was like.

907
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: He gave me a great report about him. He told

908
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: me um to be prepared for the process, and he

909
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: was like the coaches love here, loved to hard work,

910
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: and of course I love a work hard myself. You

911
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: played with Preston at Louisville and he's made a nice

912
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: career for himself, started here obviously. Now he's back home

913
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: essentially in Cincinnati with the Bengals. How close are you

914
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: with you guys are pretty close. We're close. We're real close.

915
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: We're best friends. We still talk to each other to

916
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: this day. I told it, actually told him that I

917
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: was coming up here beforehand. I'm gonna sign with him,

918
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: and he was excited for it. Yeah, when you tell

919
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: me around our show, because he used to be great

920
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: on our show, I'm sure. I'm sure he'll find out

921
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: some type of In fact, there a couple of guys

922
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: in the other room who do Preston Brown invitations when

923
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: you walk out, and he asked them, do your Preston

924
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Brown invitation for us? And we'll see if it's any good.

925
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: You started your career undrafted right out of Louisville and

926
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: you went to the Bears. Yes, a couple of years there,

927
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: two years, two years there? What was that like? That

928
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: was a code, real code and its greatest parents. The culture.

929
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: That was crazy too because of the tradition, and it's

930
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: a it's a tradition here too as well as in Chicago.

931
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: I played my college ball at Northwestern University right in Chicago,

932
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: just north of Chicago. And believe me, I've lived in

933
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo for thirty two years. Now, you can live your

934
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: whole life in Buffalo and go to Chicago and freeze.

935
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Chicago is way colder than Buffalo. They don't get the

936
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: snow Buffalo does. But Chicago is dangerous cold. So it's

937
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: more so the snow here. Yeah, okay, okay, now, yeah,

938
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: but you'll yeah this. You're right though. Chicago is a

939
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: town that I'm familiar with, and you spend a lot

940
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: of time though in your pro career in Miami. Tell

941
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: us about that. You had a good experience there, right,

942
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: I had a wonderful experience there. I actually learned how

943
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: to play better and become a better player there. As well,

944
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: because as as older you get, the more time you

945
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: can get on the field and the more experience you get.

946
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: And I learned a lot just covering kicks, returning kicks

947
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: as well as making tackles on a plant. So it's

948
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: like and then becoming a better running back. I grew up.

949
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: I grew up becoming a better running back in Miami,

950
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: and I got anothering. You have a teammate here in

951
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Frank Gore. Oh yes, so tell us about Frank.

952
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Frank has a lot of dog and mean, of course,

953
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Frank's a Hall of Fame already, So my experience with him,

954
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: it's just so more so about hard work, going out

955
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: there and take care of your body the right way.

956
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: And Frank Frank Frank, he does it the right way.

957
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: It goes buy his business the correct way. As soon

958
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: as you mentioned you learned how to be a special

959
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: teamer in Miami. Is that something you did much of

960
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: it Louisville or did you have to learn that in

961
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: the NFL? Did it at Louisville as well? I mean

962
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: it was more so seaball get ball, and then I

963
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: was always a kamikaze style, you know, so the right

964
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: way z, So I just I played. I played with

965
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot of passions. So I love playing whatever time,

966
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: whatever gets me on the field, some type of way

967
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: to make plays. I'm there. The game against Buffalo late

968
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: last season, you had a pretty good game covering kicks.

969
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I had a wonderful game. You have had four tackles, Yes, sir,

970
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: that's like a stellar game for a special team. Kick coverage,

971
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: punch coverage. I think it was all together. I think

972
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: it was five. It could have been five total. I

973
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: missed the time, so you're probably on the field with

974
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: ten places and you had four tackles or I was.

975
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't recall, but I know I have fas. Yeah,

976
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: what do you think of that game and where the

977
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Dolphins were at that point in the season coming up here?

978
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was a lot going on

979
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: during the time, so but a lot of ins and outs.

980
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: But I'm here now, so I'm happy to be here.

981
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: What did you take from the experience of playing in

982
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: that stadium when you played up here? Man, experience is crazy.

983
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: The fans are wild, and I loved it. I love

984
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: the fans. How the players feed off the fans energy.

985
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: It was amazing. So you still got your place in Miami.

986
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna pack it up. You gotta be up here, right,

987
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gotta be a times running out now. I

988
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: gotta be up here soon. And man, I'm actually ready.

989
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm actually ready. As soon as I get back, I'm

990
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm right into it. Okay. What's it a transition for

991
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: you scenors coming out of Louisville to I mean, you

992
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: have to like swallow your pride and say, if I'm

993
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna stay in the league, I'm gonna have to run

994
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: down there and chase kicks. Not tough for you, not

995
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: at all, because I did it at Lottiville. I was

996
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: always a team guy when it came down to whatever

997
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: right for the team, so and it was right for myself.

998
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: So they got You know, one of the things I

999
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: love about your signing, there's been a couple of signing

1000
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: special teamers now for the Bills this offseason, and they

1001
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: all seem to come from other AFC East teams. You

1002
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're taking plucking guys off the

1003
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: Dolphins roster, the Jets roster. That's good, right to take

1004
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: away from from your AFC East rivals. I mean, it

1005
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: is good at all times but if you can find

1006
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: a player that come make your team better in ways

1007
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: that can get them to a playoff caliber team, that's

1008
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: the best way to do it. And now your former

1009
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: head coach where you're speaking about this just before we

1010
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: came out the year, Adam Gase is now the Jets coach.

1011
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: Say you know him, and yet you knew too. You

1012
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: got along with him really way. He played for him

1013
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. It's probably his whole tenure

1014
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: there in Miami. Yes, I probably had a chance to

1015
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: maybe think about going to the Jets as well as

1016
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo. What are your thoughts about him switching

1017
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: teams in the same division, I mean my thoughts to him.

1018
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: He's a great coach. He's a great man at that

1019
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: as well. I mean he tried to help develop you

1020
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: into a player that you you don't see yourself at sometimes.

1021
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: And with him going to the Jets, I'm sure he's

1022
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: going to develop great players there and I'll still stay

1023
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: in contact, but it'll be a finally a good chance

1024
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: to finally just beat him, you know. Here you go. Hey,

1025
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: So Norris, congratulations, thank you, thank you. You have a

1026
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: great to visit and we'll get your back up here

1027
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Thank you for sure. So Norris

1028
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Perry is a running back special team or just signed

1029
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: today by the Buffalo Bills. We're happing at him and

1030
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: in studio with a Steve and I coming back with

1031
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: more our number two coming up One Bills Live from

1032
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Balo

1033
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network stors update comes from One Bill's Drive.

1034
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: Another signing by the Buffalo bill is another special team

1035
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: or another player that comes from the ranks of the

1036
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: AFC East. The Bill se signed a running back special teamer,

1037
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: So Noris Perry to a one year contract. You just

1038
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: joined us on the show. Twenty seven years old. Spent

1039
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: the last two years with the Miami Dolphins, mostly as

1040
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: a special team's performer. Led the Dolphins and special teams

1041
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: tackles last season one fumble recovery. So Norris Perry, originally

1042
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie of the Chicago Bears out of Louisville,

1043
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: is now with the Buffalo Bills. Yesterday, the Bills made

1044
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: room at the running back position as they released veteran

1045
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: running back Chris Ivory. He signed a two year contract

1046
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: with the Bills going into last year, played one year

1047
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: thirteen game for Buffalo last year, and Chris Ivory is

1048
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: now gone from the roster. The majority owner of the

1049
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football says the league is in danger

1050
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: of folding without help from the NFL Players Association. The

1051
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: majority owner says the NFLPA is not cooperating with the league,

1052
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: refusing to allow the first year league to use young

1053
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: NFL players. College basketball, the NCAA Tournament resumes tonight with

1054
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: a total of four games, two of them in the

1055
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: West Region Florida State against Gonzaga, the Texas Tech against Michigan.

1056
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Two of them in the South Region with Purdue against Tennessee,

1057
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: Oregon against Virginia. Niagara Purple Leagals have a new head

1058
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: basketball coach. Patrick Belne, the son of Michigan head coach

1059
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: John bee Line, is the new head coach at Niagara.

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00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: He's thirty six years old. He's been the head coach

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00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: at Lamoine College since twenty fifteen, going to three consecutive

1062
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: NCAA tournaments. That announcement came earlier today. Alabama pulled away

1063
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: Buffalo's head coach Nate Oates for their next basketball coach.

1064
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: That announcement came late yesterday. Night's forty four years old

1065
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: replaces Avery Johnson. He led the ub Bulls for the

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00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: second round of the last two NCAA tournaments, blowing out

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00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: the Arizona State this season, then losing the Texas Tech

1068
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: last Sunday, and the Buffalo Savers home tonight, they hosted

1069
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Detroit Red Wings face off seven o'clock. The Savers assigned

1070
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Tag Thompson to Rochester this morning. Twelve points and sixty

1071
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: five NHL games this season. Man, there's a lot going

1072
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: on today, Steve. I know, football news right in the

1073
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: middle of it. You're right, advice center. We are the

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00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: ground hero of the Spear. I think this is an

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00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: appropriate shirt to wear today. Yeah. I don't have a

1076
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: problem that he wearing a Michigan gear. Well, I mean

1077
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: it's a basketball day, County. You know, I reserved the

1078
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: right to pick us something, pick a different logo and

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00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: wear it. You got a Bill's logo. Yeah, so we're

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00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: here's on the sleeve. It's a Bill. No, it's just

1081
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: a charging buffalo on this league. I think we need

1082
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: new company here here. We don't You think I got Murph?

1083
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: I got like six dozen of these shirts. You know

1084
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: how they go. Every time they come out with something new,

1085
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: we have to wear it on the air so people

1086
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: will buy it. Yeah, the Walking Billboard would take a

1087
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: Sonors Perry. You and he hit it off immediately. I

1088
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: think it was a special teams thing going on. You know,

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00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: you know what I notice he said, did it like

1090
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: three times? You know, Murphy, he had this thing where

1091
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: you come in and you gotta feel like you gotta

1092
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, you tell all these guys that come in

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00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: here that were born after I played, um that I've

1094
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: made seven Pro Bowls as a special teams and he

1095
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: goes all rights. But yeah, but he also went in

1096
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. He said that like three times. He's

1097
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: a team guy. He goes, hey, but he went to

1098
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. He knew that more than he did

1099
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: the seven Pro Bowls, which I found very impressive. Look,

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00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: if I just signed with the Buffalo Bills as a

1101
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: special teamer, I would want to meet you. I want

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00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: them to know it. And I get it. It's been

1103
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: a while since you played, but you kind of set

1104
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: the standard. Not just here and here comes this. I'm

1105
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: being it's uncomfortable for me to sing your praises but

1106
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: you kind of set the standard not just here about

1107
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: all over the league for special teams excellence. He just

1108
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: signed here as a special team or he needs to

1109
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: know who you are and the resource that he has

1110
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: at his disposal right down the hall. I think the

1111
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: most you can say about what happened to me was

1112
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: that I was maybe like one of the first guys

1113
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: to do it for an entire career and because and

1114
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: for one of the benefits that I had was I

1115
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: was on this team that was full of superhuman guys

1116
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: and we were on TV all the time. Everybody knew us,

1117
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: and every time we played, you know, I would get

1118
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: mentioned for whatever whatever I did, And so I got more,

1119
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, notoriety for because I was on that really

1120
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: good team, more so than because there was a lot

1121
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: of really good special teams players in the league even

1122
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: when I played, and it was a golden era of

1123
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: special teams at that time too, so there's a lot

1124
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: of really good players out there doing what I did.

1125
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: But I think because of the team I was on,

1126
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 1: I think I put it out there and people began

1127
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: to be collectively aware that, man, there are some guys

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00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: out there that that are contributing in a way that

1129
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: we didn't know they could before. So whether it was

1130
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: me or not, I certainly benefited from a lot of

1131
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: good things that happened around me. So there you go. Yeah,

1132
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: all right, give me that. I still think if I'm

1133
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: a young special team or just signing with the Bills,

1134
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: I'd want to not only would I want to know

1135
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: who you were, I'd want to pick your brain. I

1136
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: think he did. He said he was gonna want to

1137
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you when I get back,

1138
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, can you blame him? I liked him.

1139
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. And by the way, he's

1140
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna help the guess we had before. I liked him

1141
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: to Jake Fisher wanted him. It's it's it's gonna be

1142
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: a great story to follow. Jake Fisher's conversion to tight

1143
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: end from offensive tackle. It's weight loss, but it's also technique.

1144
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I would think, and you know, at what fifth year,

1145
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: going into his fifth year in his career to make

1146
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: that kind of a change. He admitted, probably should have

1147
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: done it sooner. Second round pick, so obviously he was

1148
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: a pick that had value with the Cincinnati Bengals. Um

1149
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: they needed him as an offensive lineman. They're certainly within

1150
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: their rights to say no, keep your weight up, playoff

1151
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: offensive line, we need to tackle. Never worked out, and

1152
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: he has moved on now from Cincinnati to come here

1153
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: and basically reboot his career at another position. I think

1154
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: that's really kind of fun. It'll be a fun thing

1155
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: to watch, you know. An amazing thing for me is

1156
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: that I guess it shouldn't be amazing for a guy

1157
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: like me, because I know these guys are everywhere in

1158
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: the league. But every guy we've had on the show,

1159
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: every signing that we've had a chance you and I

1160
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: have had a chance to interact with, it's been most

1161
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: of them. They're impressive the bar here in Buffalo, and

1162
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: it's much like what happened when Bill Polian took over

1163
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: the Bills back in the late eight mid to late eighties,

1164
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: when he started saying, listen, we're not hiring guys who

1165
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: we can't depend on. They're getting really solid, dependable, good

1166
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: hard working men to come in here and buy in.

1167
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: And now it's easy. It's great, it feels good. It

1168
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: makes the place you work at great. You know they're

1169
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to win games, though, yeah right, yeah, But

1170
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. At first, glance, and when we

1171
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: interact with all these guys. Man, oh man, it's a

1172
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: vibe that you really want to be part of. And

1173
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: it really seems contagious. Am I right? Sons Perry, yeah, snars,

1174
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: Perry walks in here? Why you just sign here? I

1175
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: like the vibe. I like the process of culture culture.

1176
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: How do you get that? He's probably been here what

1177
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: two or three hours at most today? How do you

1178
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: get that without And there's not a whole lot of

1179
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: players He said he met Lorenzo whitebil today. Yeah, I mean,

1180
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: what do they do? They immediately start talking about cultures

1181
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: soon as they meet him? Maybe they do, right, welcome,

1182
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: Here's what we do. Here's we think you need guys

1183
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: like that doing that? By the way, oh yeah yeah.

1184
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: The most credible source for any information is one of

1185
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: your peers who is doing the same thing you are,

1186
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: at the same spot or a different you know, kind

1187
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: of the same level you are, coming to you and say, hey, bro,

1188
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: you really need to be here. This is awesome, and

1189
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: that when that happens, that's more important than what your

1190
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: mama says, you know, I mean, it really is. Uh So,

1191
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: it's when you have guys like Turdavious White, who happens

1192
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: to be in the buildings that I saw him in.

1193
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: And you know, Lorenzo Alexander's hanging around, and the guys

1194
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: are here when they go to these eyes and give

1195
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: them a quick testimonial about how cool it is and

1196
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: the vibe and all that. That is the selling point

1197
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: for the culture change in this process. We all talk about. Yep, hey,

1198
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: the draft, believe it or not. One month from today, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: April twenty fifth, Round one of the draft. You'll be

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00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: here then, right, you'll be here that day. What day

1201
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: is it, Thursday April twenty fifth, I will be here. Yeah,

1202
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: you were here last year. That was your first week

1203
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: of work. It'll be fun this year too with all

1204
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: those two were draft right during the draft, right, NI

1205
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: nighttime show? Yeah, probably do that again. I don't think

1206
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: we've had the conversation yet. That's a hard show to do,

1207
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: but a fun show. It's fun when you're drafting a quarterback,

1208
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: by the way, in the first round. So the bill,

1209
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: it's not a Twitter poll today. It's just a question

1210
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter. How important is this year's draft to this

1211
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: year's season? And think about that. Look, ten picks we

1212
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: know This is a critical draft. Absolutely, they're adding talent,

1213
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: some of which may contribute this year, some of which

1214
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: may may just you know, keep on board for a

1215
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: while and let them get better. But we want to

1216
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: know from you kind of a sense of this year's draft.

1217
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: How will an impact this year's season? Did they get

1218
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: an impact player in the draft? Ninth overall, maybe fortieth overall?

1219
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: And how big an impact? Yeah, here's a call eight

1220
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

1221
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty or he can do it

1222
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: by sending in a tweet and we might read it

1223
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 1: on the air. How important is the twenty nineteen draft

1224
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: to the twenty nineteen season? And here's a clue And

1225
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: this just came out to the video. We just found

1226
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: our great crew in the other room or producing crew.

1227
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: So head coach Sean McDermott today is at the University

1228
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: of Houston Pro Day. There who do you think he's

1229
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: looking at? He's looking at Ed Oliver, the defensive tackle,

1230
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: the potential three technique replacing Kyle Williams. A short video

1231
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: here of Ed Oliver. Look how he bumps into Look

1232
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: at this if you're watching on MSG. He gets around

1233
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: the tackling dummy and actually bumps into head coach Sean McDermott,

1234
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: who was about as close as you want to be

1235
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: to that particular drill. It's like it's there. It's like

1236
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: they're in that one Bill's drive. Yeah McDermott is in

1237
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: the middle of that drill and start right there. I

1238
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: wonder if they met before, if this is theirs. He

1239
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: could not he could not be any closer to that drill.

1240
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: And if you look at Sean real close, do you

1241
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: see him assume like a wrestler's stance. Yeah, he starts

1242
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: to take him on when Oliver's coming at him, Chunk

1243
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of gets into a wrestling stance out. Yeah, that

1244
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: first instinct was to break down and take him on

1245
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: instead of backwa he good sense took away, took over.

1246
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's that's the way it is. Man.

1247
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: He get these guy at Oliver's he's a big dude.

1248
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: And there's we got all kinds of highlights of at

1249
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: Oliver playing at Houston off off the ball down inside.

1250
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: Uh and that's you know, we got him going one

1251
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: on one with Sean mc Yeah, he's going one on

1252
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: one with Sean mcnarran. So great still, And I know

1253
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have this kind of activity last year because

1254
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, once they weren't very active in free agency,

1255
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: so we didn't have all those guys to look at,

1256
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: and the and the conversation was all about the quarterback.

1257
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: Last year. We talk and plus and plus we talked

1258
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: more last year about the Bills because they did it

1259
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times, move up in the off season,

1260
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, trading Cordy Glenn and a draft pick and

1261
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: this guy in a third rounder in Tyrod Taylor. All

1262
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: this stuff went away and we were moving up and

1263
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: up and up the draft board. So it was all

1264
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: a very very different conversation a year ago. This year

1265
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: there's I don't know where they're gonna go. Are they

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00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna Are they gonna draft this guy at Oliver? Are

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: they gonna draft that kid dk Metcalf? Are they gonna

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: draft some other somebody else? I don't we don't know about.

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Speaker 1: When I see that video and when I think Joe

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: Biscalli was here last week from Channel seven draft expert

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00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: that he is, I'm thinking it's it's looking like at Oliver.

1272
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: When when Sean McDermot is standing there assuming a blocking stance,

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00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: for a guy coming right at him, You're thinking that

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: looks like his guy, right, I mean, he could not

1275
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: be any closer to that drill at you. I don't

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: know how many Pro day Seawan has gone to. That's

1277
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: a question we don't have an answer to. I don't

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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: know if he would answer that. I don't know how

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00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: many pro days he's gone to it. But not only

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: is he at at Oliver's Pro day, he's ready to

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00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: take him. I love that video anyway. That goes to

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00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: the question today, how important is this year's draft to

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: this year's season? Guy like that Oliver difference maker in

1284
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. He could be There's an opening right at

1285
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle three technique. There's an opening there, and Oliver

1286
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: could step right in and be a starter. You would

1287
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: think he's supposed to be a top ten draft pick

1288
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: at a great college career, highly regarded. We talked about

1289
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: him with Great Cosell and several others last week. But

1290
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: maybe he's the guy who could step in and start.

1291
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: And that gets to the question, how important is the

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft to the twenty nineteen season. I know

1293
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: it's an important draft, we all know that, But let's

1294
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 1: discuss it with you eight oh three five fifty toll

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00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five from the

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00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: tweet sheet Buffalo Wing where and this speaks to what

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00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: I was just saying about, there's so many things on

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: the table now that there weren't last year. We didn't

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: have any of these conversations last year about who. We

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00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: don't even know what position the Bills are going to grab.

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00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: So this one from Buffalo Wing where, with Chris Ivory

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00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: being released, do you think the Bills may pick a

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: running back as their first pick in the first round?

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: They don't really need a running back and they say

1305
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: they don't want or draft for need. Who are the

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00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: best top running backs in this draft? You know what,

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01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: I can't see him taking a running back that either

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: not a top ten Nope, people are teams don't do

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01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: that anymore. They just don't. And I mean, yeah, I

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: just don't think it's gonna happen. I mean, I get

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01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: it that you're seeing here. These are the top running

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: back prospects that we're looking at right now. Josh Jacobs,

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01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: Damien Harris, two guys from Alabama, David Montgomery from Iowa State,

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01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: David Devin Singletary from Florida Atlantic, Darrell Henderson from Memphis,

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders from Penn State, Elijah Holyfield from Georgia, Vander

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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: Holyfield's son, Justice Hill from Oklahoma State, Bryce Love from

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Stanford who's a senior. All these other guys, most of

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Speaker 1: them are juniors. Mike Webber from Ohio State. Um, you know,

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01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: I don't. The highest rank on that on this list

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: is twenty two. That's Josh Jacobs from Alabama. That's the

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: twenty second best player on the board. So we're in

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: the bills picking nine and then forty. You know, I don't.

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: I just can't. I just can't see him doing that.

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: I can't see him doing that. I I just I

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01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: guess don't see it. No, I don't either. They just

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01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: signed another running back today, right even after sat Frank

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01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: Gore the another Sonoras Perry today. No, I don't think,

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01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: even after saying that so many things are on the

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: table this year that weren't on the table last year,

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: that I don't think running back is I don't either.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling or thanks for sending that in. Let's

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Speaker 1: get a call here. George is on the line. George,

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01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, and welcome to the show. Hey, I just

1334
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: want to say, think so, UM thanking my call for

1335
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: saw sure, sure, thank you Steve being a future Hall

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01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: favre Go. I just want to um, I heard something

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: about Raiders saying that it would be a distraction if

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: they were to get on that hard Knock, Right, think

1339
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: about Buffalo Bills to try to get on the hard Knock.

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: We just had this conversation two seconds before. Wasn't this

1341
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: right before we went on the air, right, wasn't it? Um?

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm most of this stuff. Sorry, go ahead, I no

1343
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: you no, no, we weren't on the air. We haven't.

1344
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: We were having it privately and you brought it up.

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills would be interested. I don't

1346
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: think it speaks to the culture they're trying to build.

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to put that out, knowing

1348
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: the private nature that some of the things they do are,

1349
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: and how I mean, we do a show from the

1350
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: building every day and sometimes it's hard for us to

1351
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: crack that shell to get the access we want. And

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: we're friends of the team, right, So I don't know

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: that they would be willing to open them up themselves

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: up for the access that Hard Knocks would dictate. They're

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01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: certainly a candidate, and they are not one of the

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: teams that are automatically exempt from Hard Knocks. But I

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01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: just don't think they'd want to do it. They are

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01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: not automatically exempt. They are not automatically they are. Yeah,

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: most teams, there's I think there's only like four or five,

1360
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: maybe six teams that have no excuse not to go

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks. All the others have a reason why

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: they are not on that list. So like if you

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01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs last three years or something else

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01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, they got a lot of rules. Yeah,

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: there's a ton of rules of how you get on

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: and how how you get out. I don't imagine if

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: the Bills could decline a visit by Hard Knocks, they

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: would probably take that. They would decline it just because

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: based on my guests of the way they think. But

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe not. I don't know. Do you want it?

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Or the caller is gone? But do we want it?

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: Would you want it? I would not like that. I

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: don't think might help us for some content, Murph, we

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01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: an't a couple of weeks off hard content. Here's the

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: thing I think it, I think and hard Knocks is great,

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: award winning, great stuff, but I do think they are

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01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: under pressure to produce storylines and produce conflict and drama.

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think you need somebody in your camp

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: embedded to the extent that they are, who's there to create,

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, drama. I don't think you need that in

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01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: your camp. I look, I don't know how long the

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: bills are gonna be at camp. Might not be that long,

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01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: might not be as long as they went last year,

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: which was what three weeks. They might not be that long.

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen a camp schedule. But

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01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to bring people in who

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01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: are there to find conflict points and drama. And I

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: just don't think that's the goal of camp. And I'd

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: be surprised if this group, this management group, would want

1390
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: that either. But I've been wrong. I gotta say I've

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01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: heard nothing but good things about Hard Knocks, how it's

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: put together, how it's produced, the quality of production that

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: is put together, and the kudos that has gotten for

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01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: the year after year that it's been done. But I

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: will say this, if it is if it does come

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: to Buffalo and Buffalos on Hard Knocks it'll be the

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: first year ever I've seen a single episode. Really, I

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: do not tune into it. I'm trying to think if

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: I watch last day, I don't know. I cannot. I've

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01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: never seen it. I've seen like snippets, highlights that kind

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: of thing on other shows where they say, hey, this

1402
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: is what happened on Hard Knocks, And I've seen like

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: thirty second clips over the course of the years, maybe

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01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: ten of them. But I've never watched it. Not when

1405
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: Rex and the Jets were on there, that was pretty entertaining.

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: It was great. It was really fun. You know, let's

1407
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: go get a snack. I mean, who will forget that? Right?

1408
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: You never heard that one? You know that one? I've

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01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: heard that one. It was great, it was fun. I'm

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: glad it wasn't the Bills, but it was great. But no,

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: I don't see that. But if it happens, you know,

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: I'll be watching it. What if the Bills get it? Yeah, yeah,

1413
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: well we'll have to. We'll have to see what we missed,

1414
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: which is another paint in the night, right, Oh, what

1415
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: do we miss this week? Now here did they give

1416
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: to somebody else? They did give it? Exactly? What do

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: we miss that'll be what it is. Thanks for your call.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty two three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty Um. Here is Jose

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo with a thought on Hard Knocks. Hello, Jose, Hey,

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01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of wanted to piggyback off of

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01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: that though, because you say that it would be a

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: bad idea. But you know, for me personally, as as

1424
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: a fan, we don't hardly get any type of media

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: attention during the year or even in the off season,

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: So why not Hard Knocks here? And didn't the Buffalo

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01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Bills do embedded with something like which is something like

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01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks? It's similar. I don't think it's as embedded

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: as um as Hard Knocks. I don't think they had

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01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: the same kind of access hard Knocks at But Jo

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: was a question for you, why do you why do

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01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: you need national media attention? What does that do for you?

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, because truthfully, I'm tired of being I'm tired

1434
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: of the Bills being treated like chop liver. I want

1435
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: them to see the culture that we got going on here.

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We don't want The answer

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: for that is so as they win, you won't be

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: treated like Chop Liver. If you win, that's the that's

1439
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: the goal, right this this, this is true, and this

1440
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: is true. I understand what you're saying. I understand, but

1441
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: you gotta you know we're we're we're fans of tradition.

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: We I mean, yeah, I mean maybe we I don't

1443
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: want to say we're living off the Super Bowls, but

1444
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean this is still where we're where. We have

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: one of the hardest, one of the biggest fan bases

1446
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think, I mean, I would think

1447
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: I've seen Bills fans is everywhere, you know, So, I mean,

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01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: who whould not want us to be? You know, we

1449
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: don't we get chief treated light Trob Liver too much,

1450
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So who would not want

1451
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: to be some half some natural media attention. Well, Jose,

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I'll agree with you on one thing. There's a lot

1453
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: for the Bills at this point in history, even though

1454
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: this team in this regime hasn't done much of anywhere.

1455
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: They went to the playoffs two years ago, no question

1456
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: about it. But right now, there's a lot of things

1457
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills organization to be really proud of

1458
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: and also very optimistic about how its future is going

1459
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: Murph and I had a really I had a rant

1460
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: this morning in the office before we came on the

1461
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: air about how much goes into this offseason, off seasons

1462
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Speaker 1: like this one, how well researched they are, how scouted

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: these players are, all the thought and discipline that has

1464
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: gone into getting the club from where it was two

1465
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: or three years ago to where it is not three

1466
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: or four years ago, to where it is now, and

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: all the discipline and hard things and the sacrifices and

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01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: the tough times that the fans have suffered through even

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: after the even since and before the playoff run two

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: years ago, all the things that have happened. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of research, hard work, smart decisions, tough decisions have

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Speaker 1: been made to get them to where they are at

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: this point, and it's hard to argue with the path

1474
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: they have chosen. Certainly, six and ten's not anything to

1475
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: be proud of, but you can all if you watch

1476
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: the league and watch it closely, you can see the

1477
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: plan and the process that they trumpet so loudly taking

1478
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: shape in a very tangible way, most notably with the

1479
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: last twelve days where they've been signing these guys off

1480
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: free agency, and they're guys that you know, they look

1481
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: exactly like you would hope they look. So after all

1482
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: of those things happen, there's still no guarantee that the

1483
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: Bills will win two games next season, let alone ten.

1484
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: But the problem is this, unless they do win a

1485
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: bunch of games, all these decisions and all the good stuff,

1486
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: no matter how good and well thought out they all work,

1487
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna trash them because they didn't work, just because

1488
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: they are gonna get a bad bounce on a couple

1489
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: of games or whatever. However, they lose these games. And

1490
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: that's that's the frustrating part for me. Why I see

1491
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: these guys, Uh yeah, there's thirty two other thirty one

1492
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: other teams that have to win two and the problem

1493
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: for me is it's so hard to do that, and

1494
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: sometimes the wins don't come even if you deserve him.

1495
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: Ask the New Orleans Saints about going to the Super

1496
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Sean Payton could have gotten You know,

1497
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: their teams that get fired over stuff like that and

1498
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't their fault. There are things that are There

1499
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: are too many things that are out of the control

1500
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: of the people in this building that make decisions and

1501
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 1: they make you sign a guy. You scout him, you

1502
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: talk to him, you sit him down, you talk to

1503
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: his agent, you talk to him, You look at his career,

1504
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, this is the guy that's got enough

1505
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: left in the tank that he's gonna help us. You

1506
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: get a game into the season and he retires at halftime?

1507
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And now? And Vante Davis can

1508
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: live with that, but this coaching, I mean, what do

1509
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: you you know? They get vilified for it, but in

1510
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: some quarters their joke, it was a joke. They got Villa,

1511
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: The Bills got made fun of for signing him, thinking

1512
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: how could you not know that? Well, how could you

1513
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: know it? And those are the kind of things that

1514
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: come back to haunt all the stuff that the Bills

1515
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: have done, step by step by step by step, from

1516
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: the time they hired Sean McDermott, then Brandon Bean, got

1517
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: through that draft, all the machinations that led to getting

1518
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, all the the whole thing, all the way

1519
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: down the line. If they don't win games, it doesn't

1520
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: mean anything. You gotta win. So what are you saying.

1521
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: You're advocating your hand out offseason medals, offseason trophies. Rex

1522
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: Ryan proclaimed a couple of years ago the Bills won

1523
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: the offseason, that didn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything.

1524
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: You do have to win. This is kind of what

1525
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: what of the points of our contention? Point? Yeah, my

1526
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: point bad breaks all of that. It doesn't matter. You

1527
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: do have to win. My problem is the people sitting

1528
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: on the fence watching all this for twenty four or

1529
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: thirty six months. Some fans, a lot of media people.

1530
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: They sit on the fence watching it, and then at

1531
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: the end, when the results aren't there, they bash everything

1532
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: they did. Well, where were they when they were making

1533
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: the decisions? They didn't criticize them for jobs, They didn't

1534
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: criticize them for what drafting Tremaine Edmunds are getting, jumping

1535
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: up and making all these trades. They're like, nobody says anything.

1536
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: It's all fine until the results aren't there. Why don't

1537
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: you tell them when they're making the decisions that it's

1538
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: you think it stinks? Some people do that. It's not

1539
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: really loudly. We're kind of going down the road where

1540
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: we went down around ten thirty this morning. But I

1541
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 1: know what you're saying. I just would not bus Smiths

1542
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: wins and losses not either. It's the most important measure

1543
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 1: of how it takes you know, it's it's it's a symptom.

1544
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: It's a symptom of how you run your business. And

1545
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: the symptom is the problem is the symptoms don't really

1546
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: point to the real problem. I think I disagree. I

1547
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: think it's the most important measure of how you're doing you.

1548
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and my and my good friend Frank reich

1549
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: in in in any none of them. They don't talk

1550
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: about winning. They're talking about being your best every week,

1551
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: getting better, doing the right things because they know result

1552
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: winning is going to result. You have to get better

1553
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: every day. And that's the mindset that that led to

1554
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: the success I had in my career and the teams

1555
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: that I was on in my career. You try and

1556
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: do your best all the time for the right reasons

1557
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: and the right way, and you're trying to help all

1558
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 1: your teammates do the right thing for the right reasons

1559
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: in the right way. Sometimes the results aren't there. It's

1560
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: not and it's not your fault. It's because the other

1561
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: guy's really good. You're still gonna win. Why do you

1562
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: Why do you want to? I'm I'm not even talking

1563
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: about the bills now, Why do you want to create

1564
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: um opportunities to shift blame? I mean you look, they

1565
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: know it too, by the way, you're good friends, Franklin.

1566
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: They have to win. It's not blame, it's credit. And

1567
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: it's blame too. You the guys sitting on the fence

1568
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: and the media and all those guys that don't they

1569
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: don't know. They don't see Josh Allen every day. They

1570
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: don't see our team. They look at a percentage, they

1571
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: look at a graph, they look at some you know,

1572
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: pro football focus. They look at these guys. No, they

1573
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: look at all these stats and they make evaluations of

1574
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: these players. They don't know them. They don't know what

1575
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: they did, and they make all these pronounces from five

1576
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: hundred miles away and they throw these things in there.

1577
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: They have no idea, and then they say, fire all

1578
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: those guys. They should be fired. They don't know. They

1579
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: don't there's you don't know that there's anybody that could

1580
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: have done anything better than these guys did. Maybe maybe

1581
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: six wins, maybe ten wins was a phenomenal effort. You've

1582
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: heard that a million times from guys after they do it,

1583
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: and when they like when they know what the effort

1584
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: went in. They said, Wow, that guy did his best

1585
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: job of coaching this team. They're not gonna make the playoffs.

1586
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got here. I didn't I

1587
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: didn't know how he got here at ten thirty this morning.

1588
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what you're saying. Save me, Murph.

1589
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to tread water here and I'm going down.

1590
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm choking. I'm choking on my own passion. Save me.

1591
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: I think wins matter, and I think fans are well

1592
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: within their right to expect wins. Here's you go, though,

1593
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: if when your neck deep in and when you're doing

1594
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: it every day, the wins are not the best measure

1595
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: of success or how well anybody in the buildings doing

1596
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: their job. And that's that's the harsh reality of it.

1597
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: Wins is how you're judged, but it's not the best

1598
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: measure of how you're doing your job. Oh that was

1599
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: a good way to put it right there. Yeah, I

1600
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: disagree with that. Are ye. Here's a caller who has

1601
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: something to say about this. David, Hello, David, how are

1602
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: you doing this? Sir? Okay? I don't know, David. I'm struggling,

1603
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: go ahead and save me. Well to think first of all,

1604
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: and what he just said wise is wins and losses.

1605
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: It plays a big part. But we also have to

1606
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: realize that we have certain people. They put out what

1607
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: they can and by putting out that's how we win.

1608
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: Second thing, I take my hat off to McDermott and

1609
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: the whole organization build dealing with that thing about Antonio Brown.

1610
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: The bottom line should be, you don't want to come

1611
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: to the buffalough. We're not pleading with you to come here,

1612
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: but don't make boss application out. Oh I don't want

1613
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: to go to it because for all you're doing is

1614
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: putting yourself down. Thank you sir, Thank you, David. David

1615
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Call here from Rex in Tonawanda. Hello, Rex,

1616
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You're on the air with us.

1617
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: Hey guys, Yeah, I was gonna talk about that past

1618
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: interference rule change from esterday. It was a terrible decision.

1619
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: But while we're, you know, talking now about the bills

1620
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: and winning everything, I gotta say I understand where taskers

1621
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: coming from. Where I think we just want to be competitive.

1622
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: We just want to have the right guys in place

1623
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: running a good team. And just would you rather be

1624
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs nine out of ten years or just

1625
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl one year and then not make

1626
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs for five years. I think as a fan,

1627
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: I'd just like to have a consistent winning team and

1628
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: that's and eventually, yeah, maybe we'll break through and get

1629
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: through to the super Bowl, but yeah, I want it

1630
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: to be where we have the right guys in place

1631
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 1: that can just make us competitive every single year. And

1632
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: you know what, Bill fans got to stop caring what

1633
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: the media says about us, what the big guys think

1634
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: of us, what our moves are made. We just gotta

1635
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: we just gotta enjoy where we're at and what we're doing. Okay,

1636
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good media guy coming up on

1637
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: the show at two o'clock. By the way, Don Banks.

1638
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: We spent twenty years covering the NFL for Sports Illustrated.

1639
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: Now he writes for Bleacher Report and The Athletic. And

1640
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess we can throw if we can, if I

1641
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: can crystallize what it is you're saying, Steve, I can

1642
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: kind of throw a question at Don Banks about this.

1643
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: But thanks, thanks Rex for your call. We started out

1644
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: talking about the draft. How important is this year's draft

1645
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: to this year's one loss record. That kind of got

1646
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: us off on this tangent. But that's okay. We'll come

1647
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: back and talk more about this and a couple of

1648
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: other topics when we return. It's One Bill's Live, presented

1649
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: by a lot of health from One Bill's Drive. And

1650
01:16:43,760 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio backtalk in NFL and Pro

1651
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 1: Football and Buffalo Bills with Steve Tasker. I'm John Murphy.

1652
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: We're here every day noon to three, One Bills Live.

1653
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: A couple of notes Steve. This one was one of

1654
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: them was in the update. One of them was not.

1655
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: This was not. Ian Rappaport says the Cowboys and Dolphins

1656
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: have parameters in place on a trade to send pass

1657
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: rusher Robert Quinn to Dallas. Still minor issues to work

1658
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: out with Dallas owner or with Quinn's agent, but the

1659
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys are expected to land Robert Quinn, a big piece

1660
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: on the edge of their defense. We should have asked

1661
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: the Norris if he thinks coming from the Dolphins, if

1662
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: they're tanking this. No, I'm curious what a player's perspective

1663
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: who has been in Miami for a couple of years

1664
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: might be on that this troubles me. The Alliance of

1665
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: American Football, and you've been a bigger fan than I

1666
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: have watching games, but they're in trouble. Steve, believe it

1667
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: or not, the majority owner of the Alliance, the guy

1668
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: who just dumped a ton of cash in their lap

1669
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: a couple of about a month ago, Tom Dundon, he

1670
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: told USA Today Sports the league is in danger of

1671
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: folding if the NFL Players Association doesn't help. Dundin, became

1672
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: the Alliance chairman last month, says the NFLP is not

1673
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: cooperating with the league by refusing to allow the first

1674
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: year league to use its young players. So m they

1675
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: hope to make a decision over the next two days.

1676
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna play this week, but beyond that they don't know.

1677
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 1: Unsigned players, including practice squads, are free to join the

1678
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: Alliance at any time, but the Alliance needs the Union's

1679
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: cooperation to require to acquire a practice QUN player who

1680
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: was currently signed to a futures contract. So, in other words,

1681
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: in the bills they have a couple of these guys

1682
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: who were signed right after the season ended futures contract

1683
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: the NFLPA is prohibiting those players or encouraging them not

1684
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: to play in the Alliance. The Alliance needs those guys, right,

1685
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: If I had a futures contract from an NFL club,

1686
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to play. You wouldn't. No, No, I'm

1687
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: under contract. I got let's go, you know, and I

1688
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: see the what are you gaining experience? No, shok, you

1689
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: already got a contract. You can't go any place else.

1690
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: You can show your team that you can play, that

1691
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: you might be able to help him. No, they signed you,

1692
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: they know you can play, or they think you can. Yeah,

1693
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean you do it. You do it strictly for

1694
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: the money that you'd be making, no question, But yeah,

1695
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't. Here's why they got to work this out.

1696
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: I think the Alliance. Look, the football is okay, you

1697
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: were saying the other day. It's not crazy competitive. It's competitive.

1698
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: They're getting a bit of an audience, not giant, but

1699
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: it is. It is the best hope we've had for

1700
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: a couple of long time in a developmental league. And

1701
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: if you can't get the union on board for a

1702
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: developmental league, I wonder about where that union's head is

1703
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: at right. So basically, the PA, the Player Association, let's

1704
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: get Lorenzo in here and talk about this. They're standing

1705
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: in the way of guys who might be potential NFL

1706
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: players from making their case to be an NFL player

1707
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: if they don't allow and don't want these players playing

1708
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: in the Alliance. There hasn't There has not been since

1709
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: the folding of the USFL. There's not been a better

1710
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: opportunity for a developmental league since the Alliance over the

1711
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: last month or so, and now it's in danger of folding.

1712
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: That's that's terrible and it's amazing too because this is

1713
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: U Yeah, it doesn't speak well for any of the

1714
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: other leagues that are gonna start up, the XFL or

1715
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: the whatever whatever leagues that are gonna start up. I mean,

1716
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: they're if this one can't make it, ain't none of

1717
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: them gonna make it. Really, no way, no way. There's

1718
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: just no way. This league had too many things, too

1719
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: many smart decisions behind it, and there's yeah, if this

1720
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: one can't make it, then there is no other league

1721
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: to be made. I don't think I think this is

1722
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: the best best shot for a team. And if the

1723
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: players union gets in the way, I don't know. That's

1724
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: that's not good political stuff. Who knows how important is

1725
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: this year's draft? The twenty nineteen draft to Buffalo is

1726
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: one loss record. In twenty nineteen, Steve been off on

1727
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: a tangent about whether one loss record means anything. Not quite.

1728
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: Now you're overstating it's just a hair. Yes, I'm just

1729
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: saying it's not the only way or even the maybe

1730
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: even the best way to evaluate how an organizations football

1731
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: organization is operating. There you go. That's as discinctly as

1732
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: I can put it on the tweet sheet from Big Multi.

1733
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: The draft is critical about the answer to the question

1734
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: how important is this year's draft? And nobody's disputing that

1735
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: the draft is critically He says, we've added many great

1736
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: pieces through free agency. Now let's add depth and future stars.

1737
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: It's great going into the draft knowing we go best available.

1738
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Fy I hope we do draft to add Oliver Man

1739
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: as a study. Big Multi kind of answered our question

1740
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: by by not answering our question, and he says, now

1741
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: let's add depth and future stars which not probably don't

1742
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: necessarily have a chance to contribute to the one lost

1743
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: record in twenty nineteen. Yeah, they've added many great pieces

1744
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: and that's the essence of our question today, is this

1745
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: year's draft picks. Do they matter as certain in terms

1746
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: of this year's one loss record. What do you think

1747
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: I amen to think if it's at Oliver or maybe

1748
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. The answer to that is yes, they

1749
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: may matter a great deal. If it's a wide receiver

1750
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: or somebody else, and maybe even anybody on the offensive

1751
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: side of the ball, I think the likelihood of them

1752
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: being a contributor to the one lost record are diminished

1753
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's what I think. But in plus,

1754
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: have you know as well as as well as everybody

1755
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: thinks the Bills did, and how many holes they think

1756
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: that the Bills filled in free agency? Does it lessen

1757
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: the importance of finding a guy that's a difference maker.

1758
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Do they really need a guy now like they did

1759
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: four weeks ago? Well, probably not, not, probably not. They've

1760
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of solid players that they signed in

1761
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: the free agency and at just the right just the

1762
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: right positions to make you feel like this is a

1763
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: much different football team a month later than it was

1764
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: a month earlier. So that's really where the crux of

1765
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: the question is. Also from Brad, you didn't read this

1766
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: one right. Nope, the draft is extremely important. I'll go

1767
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: ahead and say it. If the Bills don't make the

1768
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: playoffs with the money they had in free agency, this

1769
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: year's draft, and the fact that the AFC East is

1770
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: a bit weaker this year, it's playoffs or bust. Go Bills. Yeah,

1771
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot in that one, and I yeah, the

1772
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: opportunity is there. No question, you're gonna have a forty

1773
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: two year old Tom Brady coming off what ostensibly would

1774
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl hangover. But I don't know, they've

1775
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: never really showed that they whether that's storm pretty good. Um,

1776
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: both the other teams, the Jets and the Dolphins, have

1777
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: new head coaches. UM. Dolphins with a first time head

1778
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: coach and a roster that's been gutted to a large extent.

1779
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: The Jets, they you know, they had as much money

1780
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: and they were kind of in the exact same spot

1781
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 1: as the Buffalo Bills. They got a coach coming in

1782
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: for the first time. He's and Adam Gates is gonna

1783
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: have to instill his personality and his stuff, and you'd

1784
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 1: think there'd be some growing pains there. So yeah, the

1785
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. This AFC East is different, a little bit

1786
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: different landscape than it has been in the last ten years. People,

1787
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: except for the new England Patriots. What's it mean when

1788
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: people say it's playoffs or bust? What does that mean?

1789
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're people like you. If you don't

1790
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: get if you don't get in the playoffs, fire everybody

1791
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: in the building and burn it to the ground. Oh yeah,

1792
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: that sounds like me. That's you. I'm telling you. That's

1793
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna go to a break before the snap. One

1794
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from un Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1795
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. John Murphy and Steve

1796
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 1: Tasker from One Bill's Drive. Here we go talking about

1797
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: a couple of things. And you wanted to say something

1798
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: about a guy that you played against. Yeah, you know,

1799
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I played a long time ago. You know, when the

1800
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: teams were going to the Super Bowl. We played against

1801
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys a couple of times, and over the course

1802
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: of the years, I've got a chance to know some

1803
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: of those guys are acquainted with. Michael Irvine was one

1804
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: of those guys, and a lot of Buffalo Bills fans

1805
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't like. I mean, there's no question he's had a

1806
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: roller coaster of a life, and some of it by

1807
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot of it by his own doing. But He's

1808
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: one of the sweetest guys you'll know and a friend

1809
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: of mine, a guy worked with and CBS Steve Burline

1810
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: played for the Cowboys in Super Bowl twenty eight, the

1811
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, and he want to ring with the

1812
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: Cowboys as a good friend of mine, he said. Michael

1813
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 1: Irvin was one of his favorite teammates of all time,

1814
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: and Michael's going in. Michael lost his father to throat

1815
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: cancer at the age of fifty one, and now Michael

1816
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: is He had lost his voice for a couple of

1817
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: months and was wondering what'll happened, and now it looks

1818
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: as though they're gonna check him for the same affliction.

1819
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: So I just want to give a shout out to

1820
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: Michael Irv the playmaker, wishing him the best and hoping

1821
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: that this is all something that can be explained and

1822
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: he comes out of it healthy and a one hundred percent.

1823
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't know him from

1824
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: anybody except for his TV personality. Some people to maybe

1825
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: not like him because of his TV personality. Let me

1826
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: tell you something, the acid test is what his teammates

1827
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: think about him. They know him better than anybody, and

1828
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: they all love him to death. I know, my friends

1829
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: who are in the Hall of Fame know him and

1830
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: like him very much. And after playing against that team

1831
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: and losing a Super Bowl of that team, a lot

1832
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: of years have passed and he kind of he gained

1833
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,799
Speaker 1: a really level of respect for these guys. Michael Irvin

1834
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: is being checked for throat cancer. We hope, I just hope.

1835
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out and tell us

1836
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 1: thinking about him, I hope it turns out all right.

1837
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: As an old man, I can I can feel for

1838
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: a guy who his father uh that way and the

1839
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: way it has and now he's being checked for the

1840
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: same affliction. Good luck to you, Michael, and I hope

1841
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: hope it turns out all right. Why there his teammates

1842
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: love them so much. What have you heard? She's just

1843
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: a wonderful guy, a great gregarious locker room presence you

1844
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: can get as kind of the same guy is on

1845
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: set with all his friends, you know, with uh, with

1846
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders and those guys. He's just a great, fun

1847
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: loving guy. Um. And he you know, he fell victim to,

1848
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of the rock star mentality

1849
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: that some great sports heroes do, but he came out

1850
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: of it on the other side, and he's worked hard

1851
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: to rebuild his life and to keep it together and

1852
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: keep it between the lines. And you just wish him

1853
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: the best and I hope it turns out well for him.

1854
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me do that, Murph. I appreciate it.

1855
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. Man, show Jay's show.

1856
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: How important is this year's drafted, this year's season, That's

1857
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: the topic of the day. We're taking calls on it,

1858
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: talking about it. Let's go to Brand in Pennsylvania. Hello, Brand,

1859
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, Stephen Murphy. I'm going to

1860
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Steve was talking about and we all know this is

1861
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: a result flip the coaches either win, ours are out.

1862
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: But as a sand I think this year, I would

1863
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: be more excited if we won seven or eight games

1864
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: and Josh liquid Leaga maybe over thirty five hundred yards

1865
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: passing over four hundred rushing, really thirty five touchdown. You know,

1866
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: I would be more excited in that scenario than if

1867
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: we won ten games in need the playoffs and Josh struggle. Really, yes,

1868
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: what would have to go wrong for Josh to have

1869
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: a year like that and them not win a lot?

1870
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: By the way, something else must be going dramatically wrong.

1871
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: If that happens, well, and maybe we win by defense,

1872
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we're winning thirteen fourteen or something like that,

1873
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: and Josh, she's just struggling high. But don't get me wrong,

1874
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: I love when we make the playoffs. But I would

1875
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: be more exciting if he if he shows that he belongs. Yeah,

1876
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I get it, and I I get that sentiment. I

1877
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people out there, the big

1878
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: debate we just had a between uh. I want to

1879
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: see Josh play well. Yeah, I know it's easier to bid. Yeah,

1880
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I've I don't know about his numbers. I don't care

1881
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: about they need to win more than six games. I

1882
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: don't care about his numbers or stats. I want to

1883
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: see Josh have eleven wins on his ledger this year,

1884
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: twelve wins. I want to. I want to, No, I

1885
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 1: want to. I want a great quarterback because I know

1886
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: you can build everything around him and whatever happens this year,

1887
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: if in the years down the road, you're gonna still

1888
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Speaker 1: have that great quarterback and you're gonna be able to

1889
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Speaker 1: put it stuff around him whatever. And you know, I mean,

1890
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: there's so many there's so many question marks about that

1891
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: scenario that the caller just put out there. You gotta say, well,

1892
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: what happened? Wait a minute, now, that's what I still right?

1893
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 1: How can he play that well with those numbers and

1894
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: have seven wins? Listen and lighten up. The league is

1895
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: not thirty five hundred yards passing, it's forty five hundred

1896
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: yards passing. Yeah, I mean that's a let's be real,

1897
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Speaker 1: and I don't And I just would love to see him,

1898
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, throw sixty sixty five percent completions and that

1899
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: would that would put an end to everything that's been

1900
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: critically said of him. Um, they wouldn't be able to

1901
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: have the same arguments anymore, and they'd have to evaluate

1902
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: him through a different prism. And I would love to

1903
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: see people. Love to see people turn into a defensive

1904
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: backfield and backpedal out of that one. Because everybody's been

1905
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: hammering him, and every critic whoever said anything about him

1906
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: has been saying this about he can't complete enough passes.

1907
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: He's and I just don't think it's true. I just don't.

1908
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm I'm gonna love it if he comes

1909
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: out and takes up where he left off in the

1910
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Miami game and complete sixty four percent of his saying no, no, no,

1911
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about what I'm talking about, Josh.

1912
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: The Winds will take care of themselves. They're playing good.

1913
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Speaker 1: Let's take a call from Dan in Florida. Hello, Dan, welcome,

1914
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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air of this. Wow, that

1915
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Speaker 1: was quick. Thanks guys, surete appreciate that. Um Murph, Steve.

1916
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Speaker 1: I just to respond to your question, I just believe

1917
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: that that we are going to be a nine and

1918
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Speaker 1: seven to ten and sixteen. I think we'll possibly get

1919
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: in the wild cards. And you know, they've done a

1920
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: lot of good additions. I'm really excited about that. And

1921
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: I think the offense, if we can just get the

1922
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 1: offense to be like fifteenth or fourteen and then maintain

1923
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: that top defense that we have, that that's a playoff team.

1924
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're going to win this year, but

1925
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, we can certainly make a step in the

1926
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: right direction. And we haven't even addressed the fact that

1927
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: we get ten picks in the draft. You know, I mean,

1928
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: like I can't factor in what when lost records are

1929
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: until the draft stout. Yeah, Dan, do you think that

1930
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: how like how much is say if they hit home

1931
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: runs in this draft or if they strike out in

1932
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: this draft. How big of an impact will it have

1933
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: on the team the roster right now, knowing all the

1934
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: free agents and the guys that are left over from

1935
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, how many games you expect them

1936
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: to win with the roster now before the draft and

1937
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 1: how much do you expect it to change after the draft?

1938
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: So great question, not that you needed by affirmation, but

1939
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: but I think that you're going to have a swing

1940
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: of a couple of games based on whether absolutely just

1941
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: with like maximum of three games, minimum of one. Yeah,

1942
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: So okay, yes, I would say there will be a

1943
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: three game swing. Okay, you'd go to eight and eight

1944
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: or we could be at eleven and five based on

1945
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 1: the draft you're seeing? Ye, what's that? Based on the draft?

1946
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Based on the draft? Yeah, I believe that with ten

1947
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: picks that we should be bundling picks and moving up

1948
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 1: a number of times, not necessarily in the first round,

1949
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: but after that, and I think that that that's how

1950
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: you get better. I hope we get one of these

1951
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: top four tight ends, and I know we probably want

1952
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: another autentive tackle, and I know we want a pass rusher,

1953
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 1: and we want all these things and maybe another wide receiver.

1954
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard all you guys talk about this

1955
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: as well as NFL radio do that, and so we'll see.

1956
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 1: I trust Brandon Bean, I really do, and I trust

1957
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: the German, and you know, I just I can't understand

1958
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: these bill stands that are so critical of these two

1959
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: guys based on what we've been dealing with for seventeen

1960
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: eighteen years prior to that. I gotta say, Dan, I

1961
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: don't hear a lot of that criticism. What do you

1962
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: hear because I don't notice it bills fans critical of

1963
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Bean and McDermott. I don't think that's a I don't

1964
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: think I haven't heard that. If that's true, what are

1965
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: people saying critical of those two? I could just tell

1966
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: you that, you know, you know, I don't live in Buffalo,

1967
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and even though I grew up there and I'm I'm

1968
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 1: true blue, red white and wild blue. But you know

1969
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: the thing is is that I have heard a lot

1970
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: of just like, yeah, we'll see how they do. You know,

1971
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: the Buffalo is not a great place to go to

1972
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: and YadA, YadA, YadA. Well they just proved it with

1973
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: fourteen pickups for free agency. That it is a good

1974
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: place to go to. And and I think that those

1975
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: receivers and those linemen are going to do wonders for

1976
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: the Bills. Yeah, Josh Allen having another year where you

1977
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: really understand day Ball's offense, which is not simple, it's

1978
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: a little bit complex that. Um, I think that he's

1979
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: going to do really well. So I am much more positive.

1980
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: So if I listen to the NFL radio and I

1981
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: listen to especially your show, I put it on in

1982
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: twelve or you know, not working or whatever, and or

1983
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: drive time, and I just think that we're gonna have

1984
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: a We're gonna have a much better season. We're not. Yeah, Dan,

1985
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that's it. You're right. And I think

1986
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: if you're living out away from Buffalo and it's just

1987
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: fans everywhere else, do kind of what Buffalo bill fans

1988
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: do about the other teams. They kind of spend them negative,

1989
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: spend the Bills positive. And if you live out out

1990
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: and away from Buffalo, you're gonna get you know, if

1991
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: you're living in New York, gonna get Jet fans opinion

1992
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: about the Buffalo Bills. They say, whether quarterback's not as

1993
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: good as ours, or he's not gonna be able to

1994
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: play as well as he needs to for that team

1995
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: to win, or or they're not being able to they're

1996
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to put together roster because nobody

1997
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: wants to play that. All the criticism you hear from

1998
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: other teams about Buffalo just because you're talking to fans

1999
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: of other teams. But I think if you if you've

2000
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: talked to Bills fans over the past, you know, eighteen

2001
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: twenty four months, I think they're like the caller Dan,

2002
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: They Brandon Bean and Sean mcdermom and have done a

2003
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: lot to earn the trust and the confidence of fans

2004
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: throughout Bills. Yeah, the Bill's fan base, and I think

2005
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: that's where most fan Bills fans are anyway. That's why

2006
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: I asked him that criticism could be out there, but

2007
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't hear it. Yeah, that's because he's he lives,

2008
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: he said, he lives someplace else. You know. I think

2009
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: that's where you get is when you're not when you're

2010
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: not in the you know, if you're not in your house,

2011
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear it from the neighbors. So that's where

2012
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Dan Livin is living. All right, A break when we

2013
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: come back down Banks, formerly of Sports Illustrated dot COM's

2014
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: covered the NFL for decades. You're gonna join us. He

2015
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: writes for Bleacher Report and the Athletic dot Com. Down

2016
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Banks when we return One Bill's Live from One Bill's

2017
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Bills Radio Network Stories Update,

2018
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. Yet another addition to the

2019
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo roster by a free agency Today, running back special

2020
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: teamer Sonari Perry agrees to terms with a one year contract.

2021
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: We had him on the show in the first hour

2022
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: or so ago. Perry's twenty seven years old. Spent the

2023
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: last two seasons with the Miami Dolphins, getting most of

2024
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: his work as a special teamer, a kick return man

2025
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: and a kickoff coverage man. Finished first on the Dolphins

2026
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 1: team and special teams tackles last season. Perry originally an

2027
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent rookie signed by the Chicago Bears when

2028
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: he came out of the University of Louisville, and then

2029
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: he played the last several years with the Miami Dolphins.

2030
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: So Norris Perry ran new Buffalo Bill those made running

2031
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: back made room on the roster by releasing running back

2032
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory late yesterday, played one year of his two

2033
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: year contract. Thirteen games played for the Bills last year.

2034
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: Ivory a nine year NFL veteran. The draft is ahead

2035
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: one month from today and head coach Sean McDermott was

2036
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: spotted at the pro day today in Houston for University

2037
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: of Houston star defensive lineman and Oliver. Oliver ran a

2038
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: four seven one in the forty yard dash today unofficially

2039
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: is the Outland Trophy winner as the best lineman in

2040
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: college football this past year. Expect to be an early

2041
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: draft pick in the draft. Comes Texans coach Bill O'Brien

2042
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: and general manager Brian Gaine there as well as well

2043
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,839
Speaker 1: as Tampa Bay Bucks defensive coordinator Tom Bowles and Titans

2044
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: coach Mike Brabel. GM Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott at

2045
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: a Oliver's pro day in Houston today. College basketball, the

2046
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,799
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament resumes today with the Sweet sixteen. Tonight, Florida

2047
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: State plays Gonzaga in the West Regional, followed by Texas

2048
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: Techs and Michigan, and in the South Regional it's Perdue

2049
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: against Tennessee. Oregon plays University of Virginia Niagara. As a

2050
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: new basketball coach. He is Patrick Belin, the son of

2051
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: Michigan head coach John bee Line. Patrick Beline has been

2052
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 1: the head coach at Division two Lemoine since two fifteen

2053
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: and taking them to three NCAA tournaments. Ub Bulls have

2054
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: to hire a new head coach. They lost in eight

2055
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: oates to the University of Alabama yesterday and the Savers

2056
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: in action tonight home against Detroit face off seven o'clock.

2057
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and

2058
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Did you sit You're still on the fence

2059
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: as to whether you're going to watch some hockey tonight.

2060
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: You're going made up his mind? Actually, stop the press,

2061
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: and Steve's going to the highway. Here's the thing. We

2062
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: don't usually have two seats. Well tonight we actually have four.

2063
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: So the question was too to eat four? Well, we're

2064
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 1: not eating him. Oh, so we're gonna instead of leaving

2065
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: my family and my get you know, my daughter's in

2066
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: from out of town, so I didn't want to leave

2067
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: her because he's only got a couple of nights left

2068
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: in the tribute, so she's coming with. We have tickets

2069
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: enough for everybody, so everybody's going to Aga it's gonna

2070
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: be a fan of fun, family outing for all of us. Good,

2071
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: you'll have fun. It's gonna be fun. Gonna have fun

2072
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: with our next guest. He is a longtime NFL reporter,

2073
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: former Bucks and Vikings beat reporter, covered the NFL for

2074
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated for sixteen years. He's a contributor now to

2075
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com, Bleacher Report and Patriots dot Com.

2076
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: Our buddy Don Banks on the line with us Don,

2077
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve task Her up here in Buffalo.

2078
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Last time I saw you, we

2079
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: were leaving the combine. We were just out the door,

2080
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: and it was a fun farewell. I have to tell you,

2081
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: I was happy to be leaving the combine. Though the

2082
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: combine is a little bit boring sometimes time, I am

2083
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: always happy to be leaving the combine. Yeah, I agree

2084
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 1: with you. I think the underwear Olympic has gotten a

2085
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: little more tedious than ever and so yeah, I remember

2086
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: shooting you a quick wave, but leaving Indie behind in

2087
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: mid February, late February is not a bad thing. Yeah,

2088
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You just back from Arizona, right,

2089
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: you were at the owners meetings? Correct? Yeah, I got

2090
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 1: back yesterday and the top order of business thing everybody's

2091
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: talking about is the change in the use of instant

2092
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: replay for past interference calls. What do you make of that?

2093
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: What do you think of that time? Well, I think

2094
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: it was I think it was the right move. I

2095
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: think it was a great move. I think it's a

2096
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 1: really interesting story. I've covered a lot of owners meetings,

2097
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Speaker 1: i think since the early nineties, and really there was

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01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: a little more drama and intrigue given that this thing

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01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: went down to the wire, and I'm surprised, frankly that

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01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the coaches who have gotten walked over and walked on

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01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: so many times in these type of settings, they held

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Speaker 1: their ground. I think this particular victory has a lot

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01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: of fathers. I think Sean Payton clearly has a lot

2104
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: to you know, credit coming his way. I think Bill

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01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: Belichick and Andy Reid, who reportedly kind of were the

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01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: backbone of the coaches group that met for almost three

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01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 1: hours Monday night in Phoenix in essence to say we

2108
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: gotta keep pushing, we don't want to accept a half measure.

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01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: We don't want to accept and know, you know, I

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01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: was told that Belichick and Reid kind of stood up

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01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: and told Mike Tomlin and h the other coach on

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01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: the Competition Committee, Sean Payton, that they needed to get

2113
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: in there and and win this, and that they were

2114
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: the voice for the coaches on this matter, and that

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01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: that you know, don't let him table it. Don't let

2116
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: them m do the half measure that they were proposing

2117
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: the competition committee with not having non calls under the

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01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: umbrella of the replay review. I think Roger Goodell there's

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01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: there some credit, and I'm glad in the eleventh hour

2120
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: he finally stood up and said to to the owners

2121
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning that you know, we can't let this stand.

2122
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: We've got to take a pretty bold step here. So

2123
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting that after years of saying that they did

2124
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: not want judgment calls to cross the threshold of replay review,

2125
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: we have them for past interference offensively and defensively. And

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01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: I think it's not going to be a huge change.

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01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: It's it's always a lot of handwringing and people saying,

2128
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 1: oh no, I think they wove it into the current system.

2129
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,919
Speaker 1: And remember, coaches are still going to have two challenges.

2130
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: You can you don't have seven. We're not stopping the

2131
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: game every five minutes for a PI review. It's to

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01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: correct the debacle of the call, like what happened at

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01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: the NFC NFC title games. Again, one thing about the

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01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,560
Speaker 1: coach's involvement. Are we sure that's a good thing? Do

2135
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: you ever hear the famous quote war is too important

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01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: to be left to the generals. I understand that. I

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01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: actually think in this case though, the coaches needed to

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01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 1: be on this particular front line. I think it affects

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01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: their job security as much as anyone, and I think

2140
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I've seen it too many times rules that greatly impact

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01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: how the coaches have to do their job, and they

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01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: don't really have a voice in it. So I don't

2143
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,879
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. I think this was important

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01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 1: enough and that situation was had enough ramifications. And I'll

2145
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, with increased gambling legality, the legality

2146
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: of gambling, you're going to have more import placed on

2147
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: these calls, not less. And I think this is a

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01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: good move that at least the league acknowledged how serious

2149
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: the situation was. This is certainly a polarizing move by

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01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: the NFL because you think it was a great and right.

2151
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: We've talked to a number of people and we've debated,

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: and we thought it was. We don't think it's a

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01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: good idea at all because of the unintended consequences. But

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01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: if they treat this rule the same way they treated

2155
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: the handwringing over the helmet rule, where you're gonna have

2156
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: guys thrown out every play, you know, that kind of

2157
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: thing that kind of went away pretty quickly, does this

2158
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: have the same sort of potential to be maybe just

2159
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: brushed away pretty quickly because it was. It's just not

2160
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: going to work if they call it the way that

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01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: it's written. Yeah, Steve, I think I don't know why

2162
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 1: we go through this cycle every year almost these days.

2163
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 1: Remember even before the lowering the helmet of last year,

2164
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: remember the crown in the helmet about five years ago, Well,

2165
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: all we heard was it was going to change the

2166
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: running game forever. Emmett Smith came out and said, you

2167
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: can't do this to running backs. The running game of

2168
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 1: the NFL will never be the same, and take a breath.

2169
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: This is not going to affect every game. I really

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01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: believe that. I think this is going to There are

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01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 1: going to be times where this corrects some egregious errors,

2172
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: and there'll be times when they get even the replay

2173
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: review wrong or it'll be too debatable. I don't think

2174
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: this is going to be a game in game out occurrence.

2175
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: I believe this is a fix for the worst case scenario,

2176
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: which is what we had in the NFC title game

2177
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: and created two months of debate and two months of talk.

2178
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: But I understand every spring we are thinking that they've

2179
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: made a fundamental change that will change what we see

2180
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 1: to the lesser on Sunday in the fall, and I don't.

2181
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever lives up to that. Well,

2182
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: it's easy to see where they were coming from because

2183
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: of the statistics they did put out along with this

2184
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,919
Speaker 1: rule change that you know, most of the missed calls

2185
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: that have something to do with the outcome of the

2186
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: game that affect a team's chance to win happen you

2187
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: know obviously late in the game, and are this call

2188
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: it's the pass interference call. So is there a chance

2189
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: where the last two minutes of every game that's very close,

2190
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have both coaches throwing saving both their challenges

2191
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: for that exact thing, and all of a sudden, the

2192
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: last two minutes the game does take twenty five minutes.

2193
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: The last two minutes of each half are up to

2194
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: the booth review. Again, the coaches can't challenge, so they

2195
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: get the first twenty eight minutes and they've got to

2196
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: save one now because this is so important. These are

2197
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the two most impactful penalty calls in the league. They

2198
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: have the research to show and it stands the reason

2199
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive pass interference their spot poal and we've

2200
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 1: seen games swung on them. So coaches, I believe, are

2201
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: going to actually keep one of their challenges in their

2202
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 1: pocket just in case a interference call of great importance

2203
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: does come up late in the game. But in the

2204
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: final two minutes. Again, I think the booth is clearly

2205
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: in charge as it is now the replay booth. I

2206
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: don't think you're going to see a bevy of delays.

2207
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be for the call that

2208
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 1: happens once in a while that everybody sees. They blew

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01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: that one, and now you're gonna have the ability Rather

2210
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: than to put out a statement the next day and say, yes,

2211
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: Team A was screwed on this play. We regret the error.

2212
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna have the ability to change it in real time.

2213
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: The problem is going to be I think done that

2214
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: when the booth review doesn't happen, and you're gonna have

2215
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 1: everybody seeing the replay of the final play like on

2216
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: either a Hail Mary or a shot down the sidelines,

2217
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: a fade route in the corner, when technically speaking, there

2218
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: is going to be pass interference, but it's gonna be

2219
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: very subtle, you know what I mean. It's gonna be

2220
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: a judgment call, and you're gonna, depending on who you're

2221
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: a fan of, you're gonna think you either it was

2222
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: a good no call or you can't believe the egregious

2223
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: nature of the omission. Well, I guess that's where we're

2224
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: at now, right, So we're gonna get some of those fixed.

2225
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get everyone fixed. And again,

2226
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you know, now you're supplanting that judgment

2227
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 1: of the referees with the judgment of whoever's on the

2228
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: replay review upstairs. But I think it was necessary to

2229
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: have ability for someone upstairs to take another look. They're

2230
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna fix some of these, and I think

2231
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: fixing some of these is probably better than fixing none

2232
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: of them. Hey, don are they ready to deal with

2233
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,560
Speaker 1: hail mary plays? Um? You know, what happens on a

2234
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: hail Mary. There's all kinds of contact. Most of those

2235
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: occur in the last two minutes. So the replay official

2236
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: in the in the in the stadium site, it'll have

2237
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: the ability to send that to New York right for

2238
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: them to look at what you're gonna do with those.

2239
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna start calling that really close. You know. It's

2240
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: funny because I heard some people say, oh, the coaches

2241
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna try hail mary's. Well, no, you're

2242
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: not going to try hail mary unless it's the last

2243
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: two minutes of each of each half. I mean, it

2244
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: doesn't stand a reason. So you're right, it's going to

2245
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: be a replay assistant that's going to get those. And

2246
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,919
Speaker 1: there's traditionally a lot of pushing and shoving and leverage

2247
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: creating on a hail mary play. I do not think

2248
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: they will overreact and try to reinvent. You know, the

2249
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: hail mary play as a completely clean play with no contact.

2250
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: If somebody gets tackled and the ball was headed their way,

2251
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: they could reverse that. But I think it's going to

2252
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 1: take something really egregious. I don't know if you remember

2253
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: there was a Monday night game a few years back,

2254
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: New England Carolina. The game ended with Rob Gronkowsky attempting

2255
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 1: to catch the ball in the end zone. Loop Keeklely

2256
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: tackled them and it wasn't even close. This is the

2257
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: kind of call that can now be corrected. That game

2258
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: ended if Carolina celebrated no flags, gronk looked around and

2259
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: there was nothing you could do. The moment was over.

2260
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: Now there is, and I think that's the kind of

2261
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: play that will look back and say that this was

2262
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 1: about and it's not going to be about, you know,

2263
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: making sure that the tiki taki hail mary, you know

2264
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: contact that we've always seen. Uh it suddenly called stringently. Okay,

2265
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 1: don I gotta I gotta move on for the murph

2266
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: and I have have chewed this up for two days.

2267
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: So now this is not the only rule change that

2268
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: was adopted. And I don't know if you've even had

2269
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 1: a chance to read over the other one. Some of

2270
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: them are a little bit Is there anything other than

2271
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 1: this pass interference that is even gonna be noticeable to

2272
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: anybody as you watch a game. I mean there's like

2273
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: six or seven rule changes, and one of the changes

2274
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 1: is just to make one permanent the kickoff rules. Is

2275
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: there anything of substance other than this coming out of

2276
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: this meeting? Well, I mean, I thought it was a

2277
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 1: no brainer because we were we were headed this way

2278
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: for a long time. But the blindside block is obviously

2279
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: now completely. You know, they're not they're not trying to

2280
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 1: say this is a legal block type block that's gone.

2281
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: And and I just frankly think in the this age

2282
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: of player safety comes first, um and and the future

2283
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 1: of football, that had to go away. It's gonna go away.

2284
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: You've got some people saying, well, now now the blocker

2285
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 1: is at at risk. I don't think so. I think

2286
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:10,759
Speaker 1: they're looking for that decleting earhole hit that everybody watching

2287
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: on TV when you could see the two guys but

2288
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: the one guy didn't didn't see it coming that that

2289
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: that hits out, And I think, um, that's probably for

2290
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: the better for the safety of players. Um Again, I

2291
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to revolutionize what we see on

2292
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoons down Banks. Our guest contributed to The Atlantic

2293
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: dot Com, Bleach Your Report and Patriots dot Com and

2294
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:35,520
Speaker 1: Don Rob Gronkowski last weekend. The headlines when the announcers

2295
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: retirement what if any impact will that have on the

2296
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 1: rest of the AMC East. Do you think, Yeah, I

2297
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: asked that question, and uh, no one's really willing to

2298
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: say that. You know, the uh, the Wicked Witch of

2299
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: the West is dead. Um, I do think right now,

2300
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: as Belichick pointed out, it's it's it's late March, so

2301
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: answers could still come. But um, the weapons that mister

2302
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Vardy has at his disposal right now are not too

2303
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 1: intimidating in the receiving game. That's obvious. Um, they wouldn't

2304
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: shock me to see New England obviously prioritize um tight

2305
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: end and it's a good tight end draft. Hockinson of Iowa,

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Speaker 1: Fant of Iowa, uh Smith of Alabama. I think they're

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: clearly you know, they're not going to replace wrong, but

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01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: they have to get somebody who's a threat at tight end.

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01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 1: And you know, they don't have much more than Edelman

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01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: and Hogan right now at receivers, so with Josh Gordon

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01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 1: a complete question mark. So this is this is a

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01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: team that we've we've seen in you know, in the

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01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:44,480
Speaker 1: offseason before leave our head scratching with where where's the playmakers?

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01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: But um, they've got twelve picks. They better use them

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01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 1: wisely and get them offense into Foxborough. What, if anything,

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 1: does that mean to the chances of, for instance, the Bills. Yeah,

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01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 1: challenging the New England Patriots. Yeah, I look, I think

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01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: I think it narrows the gap a little. I don't

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01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: know how you can take what I considered be a

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01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player, a slam dunk Hall of Fame

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01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: player out of out of the mix and that not

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01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: have them weakened and therefore the gap closing a little bit. Obviously,

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01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,560
Speaker 1: the situation in Miami is a little interesting. With their rebuild,

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01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: the Jets are hoping that they close the gap a

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01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 1: little bit with their free agency's free um. But I

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01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, I like, I like a lot of what

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01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: the Bills have done. I think the Bills at least

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01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 1: have the feeling like, you know what, getting one elite

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01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: player off that roster is nothing but a positive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Hey, Don, thanks for this. Good to talk

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01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: with you, and I hope to see you again soon.

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01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes very much. Thanks Steve, Thanks John Okay down Banks

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01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 1: is the contributor for the Athletic dot Com Bleacher Report

2334
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com. Longtime NFL reporter who covered the NFL

2335
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated for sixteen years, and we're happy to

2336
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: him on the line with this. Um. Um yeah, he

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01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: sees it in favor of the replay. He thought it

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01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 1: was a great idea, and I get it. There's I

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01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: just uh yeah, I mean, I just it's gonna it

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01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 1: raises a different kind of problem. Maybe there are gonna

2341
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: be sometimes when when I just pictures too many times

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01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: when this is gonna be just as frustrating as it

2343
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: was before. You can fix some of these, maybe, but

2344
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,440
Speaker 1: we don't. I don't see the egregious. You don't the Patriots,

2345
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 1: none of the Patriots. The Saints Rams call was the

2346
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: only that was the most egregious call we've seen missed

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01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: for a long time. And he mentioned the one with

2348
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: New England Gronkowski and Carolina and a hail Mary. Okay,

2349
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: there's two. Um you know, Um, it just doesn't happen

2350
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 1: that often, and this to me opens it up. I

2351
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 1: think what they should do. And and the big fear

2352
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: is that it's going to take these games forever to

2353
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: get over. I mean, because they're gonna save these challenges,

2354
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back. And I get it. Yeah, you're right.

2355
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: But I think what they could do is say listen,

2356
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 1: and I think they should have done this a long

2357
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: time ago. They said, listen, you can challenge all this

2358
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: stuff you want to challenge, but if you get it wrong,

2359
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: that's your it. That's it. As long and as long

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01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: as you keep getting them right, you keep getting able

2361
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: to challenge them. But if you miss one, you're done.

2362
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,799
Speaker 1: You don't get two to miss. You don't get two misses.

2363
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: You get one miss Save it for a time when

2364
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: you know it, because that would make it, that would

2365
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: make it murph. So that is an egregious penalty. Miss

2366
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it when you know that you're right.

2367
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say, okay, I think maybe that ball.

2368
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: You know what, let's try it. You know you don't

2369
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: have a spare one. You're gonna save it for an

2370
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: egregious one. So just give them one, yeah, and if

2371
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: they get it right, give them another one. I gotta say,

2372
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: I've never gotten hung up on the time it would

2373
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: take to have more. The time of replay challenges doesn't

2374
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: bother me, and I don't think that's a major factor.

2375
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: If obviously, if they had made this change and said

2376
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: and you know, by the way, you get two more challenges.

2377
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that, but that's not what

2378
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: bothers me. What bothers me is creep down the road

2379
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: of removing the human element from refereeing officiating this game.

2380
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm fully prepared to live without any replay at all.

2381
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: I added a long discussion with a co worker here

2382
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 1: in the building the other day about this, who said, well,

2383
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: the technology is available, let's use it. Yeah, okay, I

2384
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: get that, but the technology does not guarantee that you're

2385
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: getting it right. It creates I've said the scene decades now.

2386
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: It replay creates just about as many, if not more,

2387
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: issues than it solves, I believe. And somebody's you know,

2388
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 1: same co workers telling me, well, the current generation can't

2389
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: sit by watch a play being a call being missed

2390
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: like the Nickel Roby Coleman called know the technology is

2391
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: there and settle for not fiction it. I understand that,

2392
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: but I don't agree with it because I don't think

2393
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: the technology ensures that you're going to get it right consistently.

2394
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: It does, And I asked you this question I will

2395
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: ask again today. When you played in both the pre

2396
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: replay era and the replay era, was the officiating worse

2397
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: in the pre replay era where the calls worse back then.

2398
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: I remember watching those games. I don't think it was

2399
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it was any better. I don't think

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01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: it's any better now than it was pre replayed. They're

2401
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: bad calls in both of you. You know, I go

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01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: back and forth about this all the time, and I'm

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01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm fine with replay because I think it does fix

2404
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: egregious errors and stuff like that. And it does, but

2405
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: I acknowledge fully that it does open up a whole

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: can of worms that you didn't anticipate and cause problems.

2407
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and we've said it a

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01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: ton of times too, you need full time officials. The

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01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: officials they have on listen. They they're good, they really

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01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: And I've I'm the last guy laughably to ever say

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01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: the officials are. I was the world's worst official abuser

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01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: when I played. I got thrown out of my last

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01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 1: game because I was hot over a call that they

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01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: actually got right. So so I'm the last guy. You know,

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01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 1: Lightning is going to strike when I say this. But

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01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: the officials, by and Largs do a phenomenal job in

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01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 1: a game that's almost impossible to get right. They get

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01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 1: it right almost all the time. Certainly they miss a

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01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and it's hard, but they do get

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01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: into a rhythm with game. And the thing that struggle

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01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: they struggled with from crew to crew week to week

2422
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 1: is consistency. But within a game that these crews do

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01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: really a good job. So, and to your point, you're right,

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01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: and the big scheme of things. The time that I

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01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: spent in a league without replay wasn't any different than

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01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: with replay, you know. Okay, so this guy all right,

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01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 1: his toe was out. Okay, so that cast basted and count. Okay,

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01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 1: Now it's third and fifteen. Let's go back and let's

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: let's run, let's go, let's go play. So there's a

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of that. So I get it. And listen, let's

2431
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: face it. None of this that we're talking about, And

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01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: he said it was how did I feel about as

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01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: a player. None of this is for the players and coaches.

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01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: This is for the fans. This is for the business

2435
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: of football to get it right. For the people this

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: one pay money to watch it. This change looks like

2437
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: it's for the coaches. Coaches pushed it through. Yeah, yeah,

2438
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: and I think there's something wrong with that too. As

2439
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: they've said a couple of times, I don't want the

2440
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: coaches in charge of the way the game has played.

2441
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 1: I really don't. M there's got to be and that's

2442
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: why the competition community who was more qualified owners, coaches,

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01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: general managers, maybe even some players, observers, a long time

2444
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 1: efficient and observers. Yeah, you don't want the coaches making

2445
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 1: all these rules. You really don't. And I think it's

2446
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 1: a mistake for the coaches to circumvent the process like

2447
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: they did this week. I don't know I get it,

2448
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: but I listened to me that the professionalism of these

2449
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: coaches and their level of knowledge and depth of knowledge

2450
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 1: surpasses anybody's. So I think the game's probably in pretty

2451
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: good hands if as long as you can get a

2452
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: group of guys in there that has the greater good

2453
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: in mind. There's no question there's some coach where to

2454
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 1: be self serving and stuff. But I think yeah, But

2455
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: I think also when they're all self serving, it's a

2456
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: step forward for the game. When one of them is,

2457
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: it's not so when they all get on the same page,

2458
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for that. But

2459
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: you're right when one guy goes off on his own

2460
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 1: and wants to do something else. Yeah. Sure, but it's

2461
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of if it benefits one, it'll benefit all of

2462
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 1: them at certain times. So I don't have a problem

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01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 1: with the coaches having a big voice in how the

2464
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: game evolves. All right, We've talked about it a couple

2465
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: of days. Promise not to talk about it anymore. Today

2466
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: the replay change. We've got to talk about our topic

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01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 1: of the day. This year's draft is a month away,

2468
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft one month from today. How important is

2469
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: this draft this year for the Bills ten picks? We

2470
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: know it's important, but how important is it to this

2471
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: year's one loss record? How important is this year's draft

2472
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: to this year's season? See think about that and give

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01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: us a call. We got phone lines open eight O

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01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty steem and I back with that

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Speaker 1: and with the NFL True and false. It's One Bill's Live,

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01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health from One Bill's Drive.

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01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Welcome back week. Making our

2479
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: way through the show, Steve, the show's flown by. We

2480
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: got twenty five minutes left on the Where has the

2481
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: sign gone today start. I almost popped a vein earlier

2482
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: in this show when I was talking about it on

2483
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 1: even rins in Losses. Yeah, I didn't understand that. I

2484
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 1: don't want to get back into it, but I I

2485
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 1: know yourself a headache. I know you believe wins and

2486
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: losses are important. That's yeah, but it's it's they are,

2487
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: that's what the whole thing's about. But that doesn't because

2488
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 1: there's thirty one of the teams who are really doing

2489
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: well as working hard, working hard, that's what makes the

2490
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 1: lead great. It's right, it's not always the most accurate

2491
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: way to evaluate how well your franchise is doing. No

2492
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: better way, no better way to do that anyway. Um,

2493
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 1: that's not what's there's a weird. If we could just

2494
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: narrow down what our disagreement is, we'd be okay. Hey, um,

2495
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 1: it seemed vast to me, not narrow down. It seems

2496
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: too vast to narrow it now. No better way. But

2497
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: here's what one of the things that happened today, and

2498
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 1: we showed you the video will show it again if

2499
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 1: you're watching on MSG. Bill's head coach Sean McDermott paid

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01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: a visit to the Houston Pro Day where defensive tackle

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01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: and Oliver is going through the paces. We told you

2502
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: you ran a four or five one to four seven

2503
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: one different clocks, all un official time on his forty

2504
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: yard dash. Who cares about that? But if you look

2505
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 1: at the video, you see it Oliver coming off the

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02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: tackling dummy and you see he meets right away Sean McDermott,

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02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Bill said, coaches there, random Bean is there as well

2508
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: at the Houston Pro Day. McDermott could not stand any closer.

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02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Mcdermot's about as closer you can get. And I love

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02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he gets into a stance like I'm

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02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 1: ready you hit me or I'll hit you. Texans coach

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and his general manager Brian Gaine were there

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02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: in Houston today. Tampa Bay Bucks defense coordinator Top Bowls.

2514
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: The Texans have got JJ Watt and Dan clown Rable

2515
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: were there as well. What's Texans doing? They don't need

2516
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: another d line and they got two of the best

2517
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,879
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the planet on their team in backyards

2518
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: shot out were the Bills here for UB's Pro Day?

2519
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, it was cool and that shows the

2520
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: level of interest the Bill's having and Oliver, which it's

2521
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: becoming pretty apparent, is important to them. How important is

2522
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: this year's drafted this year's one loss record. That's our

2523
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: question of the day. No pole today, but what do

2524
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: you think the picks Bills make starting one month from today?

2525
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: Do the impact? How many games they win this year?

2526
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three fifty and TWLL three

2527
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's

2528
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 1: go to Paul and Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Hello Paul, go ahead,

2529
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: Hey John, Hey Steve, how you doing doing well? What's

2530
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 1: going on? Well? I wanted to call in. I love

2531
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 1: all the moves we made with the offense and picking

2532
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 1: up all the offense to help for Josh. I think,

2533
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: really at the number nine pick, we need to go

2534
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 1: with defense, and Oliver would fit our team. And I

2535
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 1: mean to a t do you think he'll be there, Paul,

2536
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, there there's there's a slew slew

2537
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: of guys out there, good pass rushers, and I think

2538
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 1: if we could get one of them, or if we

2539
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: could even move up higher than nine to get one,

2540
02:01:55,000 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 1: it would create a better pass rush. With Jerry Hughes

2541
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: and with the dbs we got back there. You know,

2542
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 1: this turns into turnovers which could actually turn into points

2543
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: which he actually then turn into winds. Winds are important, right, Paul, Hey, Paul.

2544
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 1: I think it's important too to understand the distinction. Ed

2545
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: Oliver is an interior guy, right, a potential three technique,

2546
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: not necessarily a pass rush guy. I mean, he'd be

2547
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 1: a penetrator, he'd make plays from him there. But there's

2548
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: also the Bills have a need for an edge rush too,

2549
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 1: an edge rush guy maybe more of an eat inside

2550
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: without Kyle Williams than outside. You know, we asked this

2551
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: question today, which can the Bills make a draft pick

2552
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: this year that would impact this year's one loss record.

2553
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 1: I think ed Oliver might have the most to say

2554
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 1: about that, because he could probably if the Bills get

2555
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: him wherever nine or wherever, he could probably pencil him

2556
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: right into the starting lineup. I would think, and you know,

2557
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips would be his competition. And you think about

2558
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,080
Speaker 1: whether a guy like Ed Oliver his qualities out and

2559
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 1: trophy winner is he could he fall to number nine? Well,

2560
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 1: the reason he could fall to number nine is simply

2561
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 1: because he is an interior defensive lineman, and everybody wants

2562
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 1: these edge rushers. That is one reason they might take

2563
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: a couple of edge rushers like this Josh Allen from Kentucky.

2564
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 1: One of the other guys that are up there, like

2565
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: the Bosa Bosa is going to go very high. So

2566
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 1: there's a couple of edge rushers ahead. And that's kind

2567
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 1: of always. You know, the guy that you think is

2568
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 1: going to get a bunch of sacks from the edge

2569
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 1: is kind of the guy that you would think would

2570
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,160
Speaker 1: go first. So if Ed Oliver is a guy that's

2571
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: going to be an interior lineman, maybe he will last

2572
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: until number nine. Yeah, we'll see. It's interest. It's interesting

2573
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: to see mcdermots standard right there on this pro day too.

2574
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Tom and West Seneca. Go ahead, Tom,

2575
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, John, See thanks for having me.

2576
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Uh. I kind of focus this year.

2577
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 1: It should be on our offensive line because we all

2578
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 1: own you have a really good offensive line. It opens

2579
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 1: up your passing game, your running game, etc. Etc. And

2580
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 1: I also would like a apologized. A couple of weeks ago,

2581
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 1: I was pretty critical about Daniel Jeremiah and it wasn't

2582
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 1: about Daniel Jeremiah so much that a personal I thought

2583
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: it was like a personal attack on our quarterback Josh

2584
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 1: Ellen and it wasn't. But that was pretty much on

2585
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: that and uh okay calls being made over again. I

2586
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: think the only thing I'd go for is when an

2587
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 1: official missus a flagrant had to head hit, because these

2588
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 1: concussions could really be rough, be rough on a guy

2589
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 1: as he grows older. And that's pretty much it. Thank you,

2590
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom. I would say, I don't know. The

2591
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: offensive line is near at the top of my list

2592
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: for Bill's draft needs based on the fact that they

2593
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 1: have what five offensive lineman Enski Felino, Morris Waddle, Spencer Long,

2594
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 1: five offensive lineman signed in the last five or six weeks. Yeah,

2595
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that gets it for me too.

2596
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 1: And the um is the list of guys that they've signed.

2597
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 1: Um Mitch Morse was the best center available in free agency.

2598
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 1: That's exactly where they wanted a guy to get that.

2599
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 1: Now they've gotten Russ Bodine here from last year, They've

2600
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 1: got uh Spencer Long they signed from the Jets almost

2601
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: virtually as soon as their Jets released him, he was

2602
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 1: signed for the Buffalo Bills. M Tyler, Uh, ty Yeah,

2603
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 1: t Nets what was it? How do you say they

2604
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: got these guys? They got these guys now, Inseci, they

2605
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: got these guys. Now we're offensive line. And here's the

2606
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: thing too, it's easy to say, all right, they've fixed it.

2607
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, they've got all these guys in there. It

2608
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:46,880
Speaker 1: is it's Spencer Long, it's Mitch Morse, it's Tyler in Inseci, uh,

2609
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 1: John Feliciano, Adrian Waddle. They got all these guys signed,

2610
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 1: So it's easy for you and me, Murph, and maybe

2611
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 1: maybe we're wrong in doing this. They're saying, Okay, now

2612
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 1: they kind of fixed it. There's some for those out

2613
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 1: of the guys they've got on the rod and these

2614
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: guys they've signed, certainly they're gonna have a good offensive line.

2615
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be better than it us last year. We're

2616
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go. Well, we think maybe they do

2617
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what these guys are. Okay, but

2618
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 1: if we get one of these guys that's an offensive tackle,

2619
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. We've still got to take an

2620
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. We're gonna skip Ed Oliver. We're gonna take

2621
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle. It's there or whatever. I don't know.

2622
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: Maybe they will, and I think it may come down

2623
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 1: to how highly they rate these guys, what kind of

2624
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 1: pro they think they're gonna be. But I would think

2625
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: with all those offensive linemen they've signed that they would think, well,

2626
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 1: we've got some other needs that are more glaring. There's

2627
02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 1: a call from Mike and Rochester. Mike, your thoughts this

2628
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: year's draft? How much does it matter to this year's

2629
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:43,920
Speaker 1: one lost record? Well, I think it can't hurt the

2630
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: one lost records, So you would open the draft, wouldn't

2631
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: hurd it. You're right, good point. The work they've done

2632
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 1: is positioned them in a certain place and if they

2633
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: address and you know at number nine they're either going

2634
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:56,880
Speaker 1: to trade that pick, which wouldn't surprise me at all,

2635
02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 1: but at number nine, there's gonna be one of those guys.

2636
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: Whether you can go on a wide receiver, a pass rusher,

2637
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 1: an interior lignment, somebody really good is going to be there.

2638
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: So you'd think that whoever that is is going to

2639
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 1: step on the field and actually help the record. It

2640
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 1: might just be a game, it might be several games

2641
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: next year or the year after, and I think that's

2642
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: what we're looking at. You know to me, I heard

2643
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 1: all this stuff about how you evaluate a group, but

2644
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:23,880
Speaker 1: I bet your Brandon Being and Sean McDermot to have

2645
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: one thing on their mind. Can they build a team

2646
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: that can win a Super Bowl? And they know that's

2647
02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 1: not coming up in twenty nineteen, but maybe two to

2648
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 1: three years from now that would be the goal. So

2649
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: whoever they're drafting, it might have a one game impact

2650
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 1: to year, but I think what you do with ten

2651
02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 1: picks is continue to build that team so that, first

2652
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: of all, if somebody does go down with an injury,

2653
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: you've got the dep But secondly, season, win more in

2654
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and eventually we've got to

2655
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 1: get back to a super Bowl. I bet you every

2656
02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 1: general manager and every coach wants to win a Super

2657
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: Bowl and that are going to be looking towards. And

2658
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing. I love what they're doing.

2659
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 1: I think they're heading in the right direction for that,

2660
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 1: and why stop short of that. Let's go for it,

2661
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's win the whole thing. I agree. I agree with you,

2662
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: and I think one of the things they've done in

2663
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 1: this free agent thing right before they go into the

2664
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:13,560
Speaker 1: drafts is they've made sure they don't have any. And

2665
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott told us when we were at the combine,

2666
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 1: he said, they don't want to have any positional emergencies.

2667
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: Where listen, if we don't get a wide receiver in

2668
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: this draft, we're cooked. You know, We've gotta get one.

2669
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 1: So that means they reach and try and take a

2670
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: guy just to make sure they get one. They take

2671
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 1: whoever's available, and they take him too high, and then

2672
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: they spend too many assets to get one guy who

2673
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: may or may not be good enough to warrant it.

2674
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: They're out of that now. The free agent's market has

2675
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 1: put them in a position, both at offensive line and

2676
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, to take the best player available. And

2677
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: if it's an offensive tackle, get him. If it's an

2678
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,560
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, interior defensive lineman, take him. If it's an

2679
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: edge rusher, take him. I don't care who it is,

2680
02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: if the best guy available. And so I think, given

2681
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 1: what I see in this draft of what I've been told,

2682
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 1: this draft is about it's defenders. There's a whole ton

2683
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: of great defensive players available at the top of this draft,

2684
02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: and if you're going with the best player available, the

2685
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: odds are it's going to be one of those guys.

2686
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, you know, you can just shrug your

2687
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 1: shoulders and say, if you're gonna ask me to predict,

2688
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: that's what I predict. I regret to announce, see that

2689
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: we do not have time to do NFL true and false.

2690
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: This is a good one today. We'll use these questions tomorrow.

2691
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 1: For instance, true false, don't answer, all right, this is

2692
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: for tomorrow. True false. The Patriots should make a run

2693
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback Josh Rosen. Well, that's a good one. Don't answer. Okay,

2694
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,840
Speaker 1: but isn't it a good one? So good? I can

2695
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 1: make the argument either way. I love that. I can't

2696
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: believe you're not gonna let me answer that. I am.

2697
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 1: That's a huge team. How about this one? Andy Dalton

2698
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: must restore himself to get another extension. That's pretty obvious.

2699
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 1: Pretty we'll save it for tomorrow. But Andy Dalton's coming

2700
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. Andy Dalton's coming to Buffalo for Frank Bright's event.

2701
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: The Call the cur Javan I'll be m seeing again

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02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 1: for like the twentieth year or something. It's Saturday, May

2703
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: eighteenth at the Higher Regency, Buffalo. The Call to Courage

2704
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,880
Speaker 1: Awards Breakfast and Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton is going to

2705
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 1: be the Call to Courage award winner. If you're interested

2706
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 1: in tickets, you can dine him up five five nine,

2707
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,920
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred for the Call to Courage Breakfast with Andy

2708
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 1: Dalton and Frank Craik. You're likely to be I'll be there.

2709
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to be man, but you're like coming

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02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: back with more in a moment. One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: he's a tight end. I can't call him an offensive

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Speaker 1: I mean right, Jake Fisher is his name. He's played

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Speaker 1: offensive line for four years in the league, coming to

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Speaker 1: Bills and played tight end. Jake Fisher was on the

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Speaker 1: show with us and he told us why he's changing

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Speaker 1: positions from the offensive line. Did the tight end spot

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Speaker 1: for me? It's more like what are you passionate about

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Speaker 1: in life than if you're not waking up, you know,

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Speaker 1: chasing what you want to chase, then you need to

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Speaker 1: switch it up. And for me that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: I'm passionate about blocking and you know, being that tight

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Speaker 1: end guy, and I kind of fell in love with

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Speaker 1: the last few years kidding opportunities reminded me a kind

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Speaker 1: of my high school early on days and just revamp

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Speaker 1: that passion Jake Fisher. Now, today the Bills signed another

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Speaker 1: free agent. Fourteen free agents signed by the Bills guys

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Speaker 1: with the NFL experience. Today, running back special teamer Sonris

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Speaker 1: Perry was on the show This comes Over from the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, and he told us why he came to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: what he saw, and what he knows about the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Come on the vibe, the culture change, that's what got

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Speaker 1: mean just talking to everybody. It's exciting to be a

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Speaker 1: part of something that's wanting and you want the process

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Speaker 1: to go the way you want it to. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Where do you get the vibe and the culture change

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Speaker 1: vibe when you're here? But really, there's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of players here right now. But it's not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of players. I've met a few players. I'm

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Speaker 1: at the cornerback, Davis White, Sure, I'm at Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 1: I've had a few other guys as well in lock

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Speaker 1: room and the culture changed so far. Man, It's just

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Speaker 1: everybody want to build out something. You want to build

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Speaker 1: off something that you had last year. Up on the vine.

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Speaker 1: I'm met Lorenzo Alexander. We're gonna see him again here tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: coming back, and he's met a couple of weeks since

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo has been on the show. Well, you don't see offseason.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give the gas some time, give time. Yeah, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what happened today? So Noris Perry signed. We talked about

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Speaker 1: that and Jean McDermott and Brandon Biember and Oliver's pro

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Speaker 1: day Olda ran four seven one four seven five thereabouts

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Speaker 1: for the forty yard dash bench press two hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: five pounds thirty two times. That's pretty good. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Number thirty six inch vertical leap two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: one pounds two eighty seven at the combine, he's down

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Speaker 1: about six pounds. Good greet. Where do they find these guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a bit of a freak. We'll talk with

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Speaker 1: him tomorrow. We can avenger and we want to talk

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Speaker 1: with him. I bet we'll talk to uh Greg co

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Speaker 1: Sell tomorrow. We'll get to the defensive lineman tomorrow with

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Speaker 1: Greg co Sell. So look forward to that and Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander tomorrow as well. All right, fast show, Murph. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it went really fast today. I don't know why, really fast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're back tomorrow at twelve noons. Looking forward to it,

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Speaker 1: me too, more replay talk. No, I think we've we've exhausted,

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Speaker 1: that we've beaten that we have It's been interesting, a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things, but I think it's time to

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Speaker 1: move on. I haven't heard the last of it, though,

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Speaker 1: mark my words. Oh I know. First week of the

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Speaker 1: regular season right right. Production assistance George Blast, Jeff Coltnick

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Speaker 1: Thomas Homilder, Kelly Roo, JJ Tarito, Kevin Cargis, James Robell.

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Speaker 1: Our producer is Jay Harris. So tomorrow we'll do it

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Speaker 1: again twelve noon to three pm. We'll talk with you

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Speaker 1: about a variety of topics. We'll talk with Lorenzo, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk with with um. Who did I say oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's time. It's time for me to go. Yeah. See

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at noon One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio