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Speaker 1: and he gets rewarded for it. He gets paid because

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Speaker 1: how much do you appreciate a GM A coach which says, hey,

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Speaker 1: almost you know, the first round pick. Didn't play an

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Speaker 1: out bust, right, you know, and it's like, Na, that's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily right. Find the right situation, to find the

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Speaker 1: right in here exactly, being able to stand up two

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Speaker 1: point Russian, the edge, be versatile, that just just his

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Speaker 1: niche and boy he he found it here. Which is

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Speaker 1: which is this team fits him perfectly. You've won in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, You've won a lot in your career. What

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Speaker 1: would it mean to you on the back end now

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Speaker 1: of your career to win here in Detroit, the place

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have a lot of history of winning, but

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Speaker 1: for you to come here and be part of that solution,

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Speaker 1: be part of that core that really turns this scene

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Speaker 1: around and helps this organization, this city be a winner.

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Speaker 1: How much would that mean to you? Man, It'll really

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Speaker 1: solidify my decision to come here, Just solidify my purpose

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Speaker 1: on being here, because you know, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: do a lot of moves without involving you know, guy,

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Speaker 1: my wife, you know, And this move was to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, it didn't make sense. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get traded, you know, to the Lions, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people, didn't make sense. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, La wins a championship the next year, so

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Speaker 1: people like, oh man, it's crazy you left. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even got traded. But being traded here and

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Speaker 1: being wanted by this team and then coming out and

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Speaker 1: being a you know, one of the guys who was

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Speaker 1: a foundation of the team and now we're winning, it

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Speaker 1: shows why they brought me here. It shows, you know,

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Speaker 1: what my purpose was here for. It shows like why

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Speaker 1: you know, why Brad was so high on me, why

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Speaker 1: you know Dan was so hio on me, is because

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm a great teammate. I'm a great leader,

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Speaker 1: um you know, and I build people up, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just the team camaraderie. But that's very important to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's very important to me because it lets

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Speaker 1: you know, man, are we really a team? Do we

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Speaker 1: really like each other? Are we're really gonna battle together?

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Speaker 1: Because when you get on that football field and you

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Speaker 1: got that same lion's helmet, owns me you're my brother

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Speaker 1: and I'll do anything to protect you. So a lot

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Speaker 1: that team building, it's a lot that goes into and

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Speaker 1: it seems to be a pretty close knit group. You know,

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Speaker 1: not only just position why is the offensive line of

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Speaker 1: defensive line, but but you know position lists as well,

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Speaker 1: and you guys seem to really do hang out a lot.

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Speaker 1: You guys like telling you see competition at practice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys are getting after it a little bit, having

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Speaker 1: fun with it something too. It's a team that really

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Speaker 1: does seem to like each other, and it's something to it.

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Speaker 1: It's something to it. I felt the same way in

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Speaker 1: La you know, you know, I was cool with the

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Speaker 1: old line. You know, even though we battle every day

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Speaker 1: in practice, but I was cool with the old line.

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Speaker 1: Those are my guys because we've seen each other every day.

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Speaker 1: We work out in the locker room or in the

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Speaker 1: weight room, and we're around and building because you're around

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Speaker 1: these guys twenty four seven. You know for six months, right,

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Speaker 1: you're around these guys twenty four sevens. You have to

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Speaker 1: play more than your family a lot of the time.

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Speaker 1: So we have to like each other. We have to

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Speaker 1: know you know who, you know, who's doing what? You know?

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Speaker 1: How is your life? You know how how are you

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Speaker 1: outside of football? Are you? You're and your wife doing good,

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Speaker 1: You're and your kids doing good. That's what's really going

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Speaker 1: to help this team grow together and be successful. All right,

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Speaker 1: before we go, you gotta let me in on the

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Speaker 1: gear here, Oh man, you're this is my my my brand,

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Speaker 1: brock brand. Um. I came out with it maybe like

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Um. I kind of started just silently,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to build it up, build myself

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Speaker 1: up outside of football. I'm doing my podcast, nice doing

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Speaker 1: all kind of stuff. You know. I'm eleven years then,

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Speaker 1: I got to find something to do, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: after the work. So you know, for me, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of getting my niche and finding what I really

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Speaker 1: want to do after foot. But they're still unfinished business

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Speaker 1: on the definitely definitely unfinished business on the football field.

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Speaker 1: I still love this game. I still have passionate about

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Speaker 1: going out out there and winning games and you know,

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Speaker 1: being with my brothers. So yeah, there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some juice left in the tank. Well he is

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Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's. That was a great podcast and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you guys next week. Thanks, appreciate you, Yes, sir,