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We have an amazing show for everybody today. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: When do we have gristal? Indeed, we do lots of 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: great stories to get to you this morning. Actually a 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of really important stories. So first of all, we 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: had a court issuing a ruling at least temporarily blocking 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: that Biden vaccine or test mandates. So we'll give you 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: the details there. Bunch of stuff happening with the strikes. 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: Updates on John Deere. Also updates on thirty thousand plus 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: workers for Kaiser Permanente who have given them a ten 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: day notice that they are preparing to go out on 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: strike on November fifteenth. So we've got all the details there. 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Rather interesting clip on CNN. Actually give them a little 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: bit of credit for having an interesting guest on and 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: having a conversation that normally doesn't happen there. We'll break 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: all of that down for you. All the latest on 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: that horrific tragedy in Houston at Astra world. What are 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: the authorities saying at this point? What is the very 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: latest there? Also, as you guys now, I was out 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: on Thursday last week. It's to not get to talk 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: about Virginia Shire right by the way, thank you for 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: all the well wishes. My dad was in the hospital, 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: he's out, he's recovering, he's doing phenomenal, so thank you 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: for that. Sorry to miss last week, but I have 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: some thoughts on Virginia. I'm going to talk about it 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: my monologue. We'll also have Kyle Condick on to talk 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: about what it means both in the state of Virginia, 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: but nationally and for the midterm. So we'll get to 45 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: all of that, but we wanted to start with some 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: very significant and in my opinion, extremely disheartening developments with 47 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: regard to the Infrastructure package and the Build Back Better 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Reconciliation package. So long story short, and then we'll get 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: into all of the details. The situation has unfolded to 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: be exactly what progressives were allegedly trying to avoid all 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: the way along, which is that the infrastructure, the bipartisan 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: sort of corporatist infrastructure package, has passed the Senate, it 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: has passed the House, it has gone to the presence 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: desk for signature. That is over with. That is done, 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: And the idea was always that that was going to 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: be matched together with the Build Back Better agenda, because 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: progressives want of the build Back Better thing corporatus one 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: of the infrastructure thing. Keep them tied together and then 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: everybody has some piece of leverage over the other one. Well, progressives, 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: if you can even call them that completely folded, with 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: a few limited exceptions that I will get to at 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: a moment. Let's save this New York Times tear sheet 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: up on the screen. Let me just read you the 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: intro here. The House passed a one trillion dollars bill 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: on Friday night to rebuild the country's aging public work system, 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: fund new climate resilience initiatives, and expand access to high 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: speed internet service, giving final approval to a central plank 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: of President Biden's economic agenda after a day long drama 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: that pitted moderate Democrats against progressives, but an even larger 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: Social Safety Net and climate change bill was back on hold, 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: with a half dozen moderate to conservative Democrats withholding their 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: votes until a non partisan analysis could analysis could tell 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: its price tag. They go on. In the end, enough 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: progressives accepted a written commitment released after ten pm from 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: five they say centrist i'd say corportus colleagues that they 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: would back the Social Safety Net and climate package in 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: mid November as long as the numbers add up. So 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: here's how this went down. These blue dog type corporatist 79 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Democrats said, we're not voting on this thing until we 80 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: get a CBO score. But enough of them signed this 81 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: meaningless letter of commitment that, oh, we promise we'll vote 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: for it as long as the CBO numbers add up. 83 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Progressives were pressured by Biden. He called into the Congressional 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Progressive Caucus, meaning he called from Villa Jaiapaol multiple times, 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: put the squeeze on, and ultimately they folded. Even Lloyd Blankfine, 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: who apparently hadn't tweeted in months, decided a way in 87 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: and say Progressives blinked, And that's exactly what happened here. 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: Any sort of potential leverage that they had over this 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: thing to even make sure anything passes, let alone trying 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: to improve it from the pathetic and sorry state that 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: that Build Back Better Bill is in. At this point, 92 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: that is all completely gone, Scott everything they wanted with 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: the infrastructure bill, and Progressives are stuck in an untenable, 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: unwinnable position. Yeah, and just for people who don't know, 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: the CBO is the Congressional Budget Office, and there's actually 96 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: no guarantee that they're going to score the way that 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the Biden administration wants. People might remember this, but during 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: the Trump tax cuts and Job Zach, the CBO rightfully 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: said it was going to expand the deficit, and they're like, no, 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: we're going to go with our own like fake accounting 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: as to why this is okay. This is going to 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: be the reverse situation of that. So if the CBO, 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: the Congressional Budget Office does score this as you know, 104 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: non deficit neutral or saying it won't, necessarily it may 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: cost more than they're saying in terms of the price tag. 106 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Mansion Cinema and many of these other people have the 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: out in order to vote against it. So there's no 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: guarantee whatsoever in terms of the actual number of votes. 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: It was an interesting little shakeout. Let's put this up 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: on the screen in terms of the actual votes for 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: no and for yeah, both from the GOP and the Dems. 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: So amongst the Democrats who voted against the infrastructure bill, 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: it was aoc rasheated to lib ilhan Omar Corey bush 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Aana Presley, and Jamal Bowman, several members of the squad. 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: There we should note, though, Crystal, which is that there 116 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: seemed to be a little bit of coordination here. I 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: mean Presley herself apparently had voted did not vote no 118 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: on the bill until it hit two eighteen, until it 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: had enough votes and the only reason it really seems 120 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: to have gone across the finish line is that thirteen 121 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Republicans there voted for it. A lot of them either 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: people who had voted for impeachment they're on their way out, 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: or people in the state of New Jersey. So I 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: didn't know this, but New Jersey Republicans are obsessed with 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: this bill because of the Amtrak New Jersey to New 126 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: York tunnel. It has a seventy percent approval rating amongst 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Republicans in the state of New Jersey, hence why many 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: of their reps actually voted for it. Like Jeff Bandry, 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: some politics are listen as somebody's you know, we all 130 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: hate the goddamn a Man track, So you know, I 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: sympathize for those on the West coast. Come try it sometime. 132 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: It's awful. I dissent from that view. Oh really, it's 133 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: not their faults. There's complicated reasons. It is often late anyway. 134 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: So all of that being said, there are some very 135 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: interesting politics here happening in terms of what's happening with 136 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the actual vote itself on build back Better, because they're 137 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: not going to be able to have the same number 138 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: of Republicans obviously cross for build back Better maybe maybe 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: one vote, maybe two. Even then they would be extraordinarily unlikely. 140 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: So what happened here is that the Squad was able 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: to vote against the bill because they knew they were 142 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: going to have a decent number of crossover amongst the GOP. 143 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Let me pause you there, because the other part of 144 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: that tweet is really important. If the Squad had actually 145 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: wanted to flex their muscle and kill this thing, they 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: had the numbers to do it, even with those thirteen 147 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Republicans crossing over. If all of the squad members or 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: some chunk of the Progressive the Squad plus Progressive costs, okay, 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: if some sizeable number of the Progressive Caucus, they didn't 150 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: even need ten votes from the Congressional Progressive Caucus in 151 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: order to kill this thing. So if they actually wanted 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: to use power and leverage, they could have instead. As 153 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: you said, it appears more likely that at least some 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: of the individuals who voted no did more so as 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: a protest vote, knowing that it ultimately wasn't going to matter. 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: So it was a complete and utter fold on their part. 157 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, at this point, I'm using the 158 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: term progressive extraordinarily loosely, because I think only the people 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: there who were the six no votes you could even 160 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: argue are progressive at this point. Let's put up their 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: statement here. This is from Primilagaiopol, who is the chair 162 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: of the Progressive Caucus. They say about this commitment that 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the corporatists gave them, that our colleagues have committed to 164 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: voting tonight for the Transformative Build Back Better Act as 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: currently written, no later than the week of November fifteenth. 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: They go on to say, the President has affirmed these 167 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: members gave him the same commitment. So they're relying on 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: the word of these five corporatists. By the way, in 169 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: their statement, we don't mention that it's contingent on the 170 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Congressional Budget Office giving them the score that they want 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: no guarantees on that, no guarantees whatsoever, and so the 172 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: corporatis have provided themselves within out here of Oh the 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: numbers are not up. Sorry, guys, we would love to 174 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: do it, but we just can't. Let's go back to 175 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: the drawing board. Let's endlessly draw this out so that 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: it never ever ever happens, and anyone who wanted something 177 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: better than what is on offer here, and we've covered 178 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: relentlessly how this bill has been stripped back and some 179 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: of its most popular, most important provisions have been killed. 180 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: Anyone who wanted anything better out of this, that leverage 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: has been utterly lost. Right, And as Jake Sherman put 182 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: in that tweet, you know, I am struck by the 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: vote by November fifteenth stuff. Considering these deadlines have been 184 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: an absolute joke this year, So they're clinging to false deadlines. 185 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: They people who said that they would vote for it 186 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: already gave themselves an out in terms of the conditionality. 187 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: The bill has already become law. So the thing that 188 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: Josh Gotheimer and all those other people had banked on 189 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: has basically passed. Now from what I am hear in Crystal, 190 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: there is one thing that may still induce these people 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: to vote for the bill. Well, it's called the salt tax, 192 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the multi millionaire tax cut that they are purposefully taken 193 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: out of the bipartisan infrastructure package put into the build 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: back better to try and induce these people to go 195 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: for it. So there's a lot of jockeying behind the 196 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: scenes here in Washington. Bernie Sanders said that he would 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: oppose an outright removal of the salt cap up to 198 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: like seventy two thousand dollars something like that is what's 199 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: being floated right now. And once again it's a reminder 200 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: that the overwhelming ninety something percent of salt benefits go 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: to people who make over one million dollars a year. 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the benefits. Well, that does not mean 203 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: that there aren't people out there and make you know, 204 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: two three hundred, four hundred thousand or whatever in the 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: state of New Jersey and all that who won't get 206 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: a tax cut. But I'm saying that the people who 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: have the most invested within this are millionaires, and in 208 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: many cases they're actually billionaires who dig it on the 209 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: income and more. Given that that's how they actually make 210 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: their money, they have been able to write that off 211 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: in the past and now aren't able to. So that 212 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: is the one thing crystal that may keep these people 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: in line. That actually brings up a good political point, 214 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: which is that if they had tied, had actually had 215 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: these things be one bill from the beginning, then everyone 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: would have had a stake in the whole thing ultimately 217 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: getting passed. And so the fact that they pulled these 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: two pieces apart in the hopes of getting some level 219 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: of Republican support, so Biden could have the you know, 220 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: could could go out and say and have the talking 221 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: point that he did a bipartisan deal. That's the reason 222 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: why these two pieces were pulled apart, and it's also 223 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the reason why it has made it so incredibly politically 224 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: difficult to get anything across the finish line, let alone 225 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: something that was actually good. If the corporate infrastructure piece 226 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: had been included in the Build Back Better piece, then 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: people who were really interested in that would have had 228 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: more of a reason to hurry up and get this 229 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: thing done. So that decision to split them apart from 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: the beginning has turned into total catastrophe if you actually 231 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: care about people benefiting from these bills. There have been 232 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: a couple developments. The House is going a little bit 233 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: of its own way on the Build Back Better thing. 234 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: They've implemented a few of a few reforms to some 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: of the more popular provisions. So originally the paid leave 236 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to be twelve weeks, then they said maybe 237 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: it'll be four weeks. Then they pulled it out entirely. 238 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: While that might be put back in at four weeks 239 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: in the House, the prescription drug negotiations. Originally, the idea 240 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: very simple that Demgrat's been campaigning on since two thousand 241 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: and six. We're going to have medicare and negotiate prescription 242 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: drug prices, something that is patently obvious and it's absurd, 243 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: it's not already done well. That got pulled out altogether 244 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: because of these Dems who take a lot of money 245 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: from big pharma. Now there's a sort of industry proved 246 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: middle ground that's going to let them negotiate prices only 247 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: on the drugs that basically farm is okay with them negotiating. 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: That may be put back in. So there are some 249 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: movements there in terms of the House versus the Senate. 250 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: So I can provide some clarity on that. I asked 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: around what happened is is that the House, because this 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: is not actually going to be the final bill. I 253 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: wanted to put that in there to show, you know, like, hey, nowhere, Pailee, 254 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: So here's what's actually going to happen, which is that 255 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: because it still has to go through the Senate and 256 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the vote rama amendment process, all of these things can 257 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: be stripped out easily. And so Joe Manchin, what they're 258 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: essentially doing is they're daring Joe Manchin in order to 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: put forward an amendment which would have GOP support, in 260 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: order to strip out paid family leave and the same 261 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: thing whatever it comes to prescription drug that actually could 262 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: have more than fifty one votes there in the Senate. 263 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: And then what they're betting on is that the Senate 264 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: will then pass this House bill minus a certain parts, 265 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and the House is just going to vote for it anyway. 266 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: So like that is as far as I understand it 267 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: from what I've asked Senate insiders here, that's the strategy 268 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: around why the House willing to put that in because 269 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: they know it's not actually going to get in there 270 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: in the final thing. They want the headline and the 271 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: credit without actually as a party having unified guarantees that 272 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: these things would make it, you know. I mean, the 273 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: subscription drug thing may ultimately go through because it's so 274 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: watered down and industry approved at this point that they 275 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: may even like the talking point of like, look see 276 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: you we support this and this is great so that 277 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: they can get a little bit of pr halo, but 278 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: it's basically meaningless. The last week we wanted to show 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: you of this is just how pathetic the quote unquote 280 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: progressive position ultimately ended up being Congress and Rocanna, who 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: you know we've interviewed multiple times. Always appreciate the time 282 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: that he gives us. I also credit him. Yeah, very 283 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: nice guy. Interviewed him at length on podcast Crystal Kyle 284 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: and Friends. He was very Oh, we're gonna be tough. 285 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna hold the line. We're going to make sure 286 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that you know that we get something good for the 287 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: American people, and we're gonna we're gonna make sure we 288 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: keep these bills tied together. Well, he ends up being 289 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: the one that goes along with this. Yeah, we promise 290 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: we're going to vote for the bill just as long 291 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: as the CBO score comes through. Jank On Tyt pressed 292 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: him on exactly what his position is. Let's take a 293 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: look at a little bit of that. But but well 294 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you didn't but you got it. Look, you just let's 295 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: just do one thing at a time. You guys said 296 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: that you would not vote in the House until the 297 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Senate passed Build Back Better. You're now saying, no, we 298 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: withdraw our position. You have to say that's true, because 299 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: it is true. Right, Well, there was a disagreement. They 300 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: were different. It is that's certainly our chair for Religion, 301 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: pol said initially, I don't know how she framed it, 302 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: that we want some iron cloud. I can I can 303 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: read a New York Times score for your progressive dere 304 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Grants warned the House leadership that a majority of their members, 305 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: the majority of their members, will withhold her support for 306 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: one trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill until the Senate passes a second, 307 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: far larger package containing their spending priorities. That's a fact. 308 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, but if yeah, the challenge is, if we 309 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: really were to hold to that, then we done nothing. 310 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean you really, but then the President's agenda, that 311 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: would not happen, and we'd move on to the no no 312 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: but hold on representative kinda. That's of course not true, right, 313 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have a hold on. You wouldn't have 314 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: it yet. And then what would happen next is pressure 315 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: would then go back to Mansion in cinema and they 316 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: would say, well, the progressors are holding the line and 317 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: they're doing the same exact thing that mantioned a cinema 318 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: are doing. Mangin a cinema are drawing red lines all 319 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: over you guys. I think making some very salient points 320 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: there Harms and Kanna not really having any response whatsoever. 321 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: And ultimately what jenk is getting at there is this 322 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: is why y'all aren't taken seriously in Washington, and you 323 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: never will be because think of what the position was 324 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: originally in the position of six trillion. Then Burning negotiats 325 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: all right, three and a half trillion, and the line 326 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: from them was always, this is the compromised position, three 327 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: and not trillion. That is the compromise position. We will 328 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: settle for nothing less. Then they kind of came off 329 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: then and said, well, you know, we're willing to work 330 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: with them, but no climate, no deal. They a couple 331 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: times drew a hard line and forced to delay that 332 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: these two things have to be tied together. And then 333 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: as it gets chipped away and chipped away and chipped away, 334 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: and they draw no red lines whatsoever about what programs 335 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: have to be included or what their top line number is, 336 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: the thing dribbles all the way down to almost what 337 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin's position is, and then on the very last 338 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: line that they were holding that they have to be 339 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: tied together, ultimately they collapsed there too. I think it 340 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: comes down to this, which is you got to be 341 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: willing to walk. You know, at the end of the day. 342 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin famously looked Bernie in the eyes, he goes, 343 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: I can live with zero, Well can you live with Bernie? 344 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: And the truth is is that Bernie could not live 345 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: with zero. And that's the same thing with these people, 346 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: which is that they weren't willing to walk whenever it 347 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: came to their priorities. So you're going to get rolled 348 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: and you look like a joke as you point to 349 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: can you imagine what the headline we've have been in 350 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: twenty eleven if the Freedom Cocus had the numbers to 351 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: kill a bill and they didn't kill it. I mean, 352 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: they would have been like, this is a total joke. 353 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: And they always showed up and were always killed the bill. 354 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: So they actually said they would, and leadership came to 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: them because they were serious in their willingness to vote 356 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: against something. And what you're seeing here is fake posturing. 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: There's a couple of years left in the Biden administration, 358 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: but they will not be taken seriously for the remainder 359 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: of it. That's pretty much the case. No, nor should 360 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: they be, yeah, I mean, ultimately, nor should they be 361 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: because already their position was pathetic that they hadn't fought 362 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: to keep what they said were their priorities in this bill. 363 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: They'd already moved off of that, and then the very 364 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: last thing that they were holding on to that they 365 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: would keep them tied together. Ultimately, all it took, this 366 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: is all. It took. Three calls from Joe Biden, maybe 367 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: some nice tweets from ron Klayn or something like that. 368 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: And I think what really freaked them out was the 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: media saying, oh, it's their fault that Democrats lost in Virginia. 370 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: A little bit of negative media coverage and they just 371 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: instantly collapse. It's pretty sad to see, very sad. All right, 372 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and move on. We're going to talk 373 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: about this vaccine mandate court decision, a very big ruling 374 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: out of the State of New Orleans in the Fifth 375 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals. So let's put this up there 376 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: on the screen, which is that the judges in the 377 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit have frozen the Biden vaccine or testing requirement 378 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: after a federal lawsuit. So the Court of Appeals suspended 379 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: the requirement for private companies. Now this is important because 380 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: it was issued by a panel of three judges Now, 381 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: all the judges were GOP appointed. However, within that what 382 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: they rule is not necessarily a total strike against a 383 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: mandate itself, but they are giving the Biden administration a 384 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: few days in order to come forward and respond to 385 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: what they say could be a grave assault on liberty 386 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: and grave statutory and constitutional issues with the mandate itself. 387 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: So what essentially what needs to happen now is that 388 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has until five pm Monday today to 389 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and respond to the request for a more 390 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: permanent halt to the mandate itself. Now, in terms of 391 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: the court watchers that I have asked around, they do 392 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: think that it's possible that this may get stayed until 393 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: there is a Supreme Court decision itself on the matter. 394 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: So what that would mean, you guys can think back 395 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: to the DACA decision, where we saw like a Hawaii 396 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: or a California judge posit all the way up into 397 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: Hill hit hit the Supreme Court. There were others under 398 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: the Trump administration as well. The travel ban was another 399 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: one where until the Supreme Court ruled on it, it 400 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: didn't actually go into effect. This could kick it into 401 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the same territory, and of course we know that the 402 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court can take a very long time. Now. What's 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: happening here is the Department of Labor, who issued that 404 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: ruling through the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, is arguing 405 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: that under the OSHA Act itself, that it already gives 406 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: the government the authority quote to act quickly in an 407 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: emergency where the agency finds that workers are subjected to 408 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: a grave danger and a new standard is necessary to 409 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: protect them. Now, under that standard, they're arguing that COVID 410 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: go ahead and applies to this. The real question is 411 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: around where Scotus would fall, Crystal, because people and Scotus 412 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: have kind of been. When I say scotis sorry for 413 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: those who are an insider Supreme Court of the United States. 414 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Where the Supreme Court is going to stand on this 415 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: is they have been all over the map. So we'll 416 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: remember Justice Kavanagh, the Trump appointed judge, had already acquiesced 417 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: on the eviction moratorium back and then the several months 418 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: ago whenever he said that because coronavirus is this extraordinary crisis, 419 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: we are allowing the eviction mandate to go forward even 420 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: though in my judgment it's probably not legal. Now that 421 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: actually could give an opening as to why they may 422 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: justify then and seeing coronavirus as an extraordinary crisis, grave danger, 423 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: all of that possible avenues through justice is Gorsic and 424 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Barrett a little bit more libertarian in their leanings. Very 425 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: difficult to see them going ahead. So it could see 426 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: a five to four split right there, even though it 427 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: is a six to three court. Justice Roberts again, whenever 428 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: it came to the Trump administration, he would always object 429 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: based on process arguments. So it's like, oh, well, you 430 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: didn't file the right paperwork, so that's not the right thing. 431 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: Biden administration has at least gone through all of the 432 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: administrative loopholes. Big question as to how they decide there. 433 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: And then the main one is this. Remember the Supreme 434 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Court did not find that the main vaccine mandate which 435 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: recently came to them violated constitutional rights, but that was 436 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: based on religious exemptions themselves. So this would be as 437 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: a mandate for all workers, and critically in private companies. 438 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: So the vaccine requirements plus the testing requirement, whether it 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: infringes upon the constitutional rights of both businesses and the 440 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: individuals who work there who don't work for federal contractors. 441 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: That's really why the case law here is very different. 442 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of questions right now as to 443 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: how the Supreme Court is going to find this crystal. 444 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: So there are overall, courts have been both Republican and 445 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: Democratic appointed judges have been ruling in favor of a 446 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: variety of mandates, both those implemented by universities for example, 447 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: also those like the one in Maine have been upheld. 448 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal said at least seventeen different lawsuits judges 449 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: have refused to block those vaccine mandates. They upheld Maine, 450 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: they upheld universities, They've upheld some that have come from corporations. 451 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: That all dates mostly dates back to this nineteen oh 452 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: five US Supreme Court decision Jacobson versus Massachusetts. There was 453 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a Lutheran pastor who had an objection to the smallpox 454 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: vaccination requirement. And that was actually even more stringent because 455 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: there wasn't at that point, there wasn't an option of 456 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: vaccine or tests number one number two. They actually would 457 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: find you if you didn't go forward and get the 458 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: small pox vaccine. This particular gentleman had had a rare 459 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: but very you know, damaging reaction to a vaccination. He 460 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: had received previously, so he had, you know, a major 461 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: health consequence. It was a more onerous burden in terms 462 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: of you know, it was a stricter vaccine mandate, and 463 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: the court upheld it. Let me just read you a 464 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: little bit of the decision because I think it's it's 465 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: interesting the way that they worded it. It was written 466 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: by Justice John Marshall Harlan. The Court held that quote 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: in every well ordered society, charged with the duty of 468 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: conserving the safety of its members, the rights of the 469 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: individual in respect of his liberty may, at times, under 470 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint 471 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: to be enforced by reasonable regulations as the safety of 472 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: the general public may demand. So that is the case 473 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: law that this goes back to that nineteen oh five 474 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: ruling that gives the state a lot of power in 475 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: terms of these types of vaccine mandates. So that's why 476 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people have felt that when this does 477 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: ultimately go up to the Supreme Court, it is very 478 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: likely to stand. Yeah, and you know, the other question, 479 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: because I raised that as well, was that there gonna 480 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: be a lot of arguments over whether coronavirus now faces 481 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: a grave danger standard. So that's going to be You're 482 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna hear a lot of stuff like what we heard 483 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: in the public square, actually presented within the courts, around 484 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: survival rates, around you know, when you have vaccination, herd, immunity, death, 485 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: all of that as compared to smallpox. It's going to 486 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: be pretty fascinating because it's basically going to be a 487 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: distillation of the public argument, but in a legal framework 488 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: which then can apply to everybody. So you know, it's 489 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: interesting too. In order to think about it in the 490 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: public context, we have to remember the Supreme Court is 491 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: a political machine just like any other. I mean, the 492 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: Justice Roberts is desperate to avoid court avoid court packing, 493 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to fall on the wrong side 494 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: of public opinion, and public opinion is shifting around on this. 495 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: The vaccine mandate was actually quite popular whenever it was 496 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: implemented or announced. At the time a couple of months ago, 497 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: it was in eighty twenty level of support. But as 498 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I pointed out in a recent MONOLOGU, let's put this 499 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: tweet up there on the screen. This is from NBC 500 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: News's own polling. They find forty seven percent favor the mandate, 501 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: while fifty percent actually oppose, and the strong agreement or disagreement. 502 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: There is a thirty four strongly favor with a forty 503 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: one percent strongly disapproved. So question though, does ask do 504 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: you support everyone getting a COVID nineteen vaccine. It doesn't 505 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: give the vaccine or test alternative, and it doesn't have 506 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: the language in there about just businesses with one hundred 507 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: people or more. That's right, and I believe also that 508 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: the one hundred or more requirement, this is another thing 509 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: that OSHA is looking at in order to try and 510 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: push it even further down the chain in terms of 511 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: a number of people who are employed or not, but 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: they haven't yet found the same legal ground. One hundred 513 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: or more seems to be the standard that they feel 514 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: the most comfortable on. And you actually found this one 515 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: where the vaccine mandate collides with business interests. So let's 516 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: put this on the screen from Politico, which is that 517 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: the mandate from Biden is very specifically tailored in order 518 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: to hit on January four. Now you may think that's 519 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: because of the new year, but actually it's because the 520 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: people who are involved in the holiday shopping season are like, okay, 521 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: hold on a second, you cannot make us enforce this 522 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: thing whenever we have to send out all of these 523 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Christmas gifts and more, even though we're already in the 524 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: middle of a supply chain crisis. And so I do 525 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: find this a little ridiculous in that. Look, if it's 526 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: a total oppressing danger crisis that the Biden administration says 527 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: it is, then the holiday season shopping market probably shouldn't 528 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: be the consideration. So instead they're actually shifting it to 529 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: January four in order to make sure Amazon and Walmart 530 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: and all these other people can send out their gifts 531 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: on time. It just goes to show that even in 532 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: this one, the business lobby was very very effective at saying, well, 533 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: hold on a second. You know, we got to wait 534 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: until that part where we end up firing like five 535 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people who are seasonal workers before we actually 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: kick this thing into effect. Yeah, governments have competing priorities. 537 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: One of those priorities making sure Sanna is going to 538 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: arrive on time. Okay, it takes a little bit long. 539 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: That's find to weigh that against you health and safety 540 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: of the American people. There is one other piece here, 541 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: which is just kind of funny for those of you. Look, 542 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: I think personally, as I've said before, that the alternative 543 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: of you can either get vaccinated or you can get tested, 544 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: to me, strikes the right balance between individual liberty and 545 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: caring for the community and making sure that people are 546 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: ultimately safe when they're at work. However, for those of 547 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: you who do not hold that position and you are 548 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: completely opposed to it, let me offer one potential reason 549 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: to maybe get behind it. Let's throw this last hair 550 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: sheet up on the screen. Apparently thousands of CIA ghules 551 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: might get fired because they're not getting vaccinated. And I 552 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: think that personally, I view that as a win all 553 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: the way around. Pert. You know, this is the one 554 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: thing that could make me flip on the issue, which 555 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: is that there's a lot of people apparently in the 556 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Intel community who don't want to and you know, I 557 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: got to strike the balance between everybody has rights and 558 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, I probably shouldn't judge people, you know, and 559 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: make sure everybody's taking advantage of it. But then also, 560 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry taken care of and then there's the the 561 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: Intel people. I'm like, wow, God, I just don't know 562 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: who decides. So we thought that's a funny little addendum 563 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: for those who hate the deep state. It could be 564 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: that the vax mandate is the most effective thing in 565 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: order to clean the deep state out in a very 566 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: long time. Although maybe these are the people who were 567 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: sympathetic to the deep state argument in the first place, 568 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: and they would be getting out and would turn you 569 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: into more of a neoliberal shill place. So who knows. 570 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a maybe it's even worse of a situation. 571 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm wondering when they're going to come up with a 572 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: vaccine for Havana Central. Well, you know that these people 573 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: had their way, that they certainly would be plowing hundreds 574 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars toward that goal. Well, they already 575 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: they already passed the mode. Let's got relief. Now they 576 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: have research, they need even more, they need benefits, you know, yeah, yeah, 577 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: let's uh, we'll get right on top of that. Okay, 578 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: another important story we wanted to bring to you this morning. 579 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: So lots of developments. The John Deere strike continues. As 580 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: you guys likely know, John Deere offered a contract that 581 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: was an improvement over the previous position it gave. It 582 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: offered raises, but it maintained, and this is a critical piece, 583 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: maintained that two tier structure where workers who have been 584 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: there for a long time get one level of pay, 585 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: one set of benefits, one level of pension, and workers 586 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: who came in more recently they're sort of kicked down 587 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: to that lower tier and their benefits, their pay, everything 588 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: is less than those workers who had been there for 589 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: a longer time. So in a narrow vote, that contract 590 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: offer was voted down, and so the continues. Here's the 591 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: very latest, let's throw this up on the screen. John 592 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Dere customers are now facing weeks long delays for parts 593 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: orders due to the ongoing worker strike. This is the 594 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: first evidence of an impact taking hold during the farm 595 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: harvest season. Of course, these problems being compounded by the 596 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: fact that John Deere is dealing with their own issues 597 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: with the supply chain crisis. But here's why this is 598 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: really important. This is why these workers have leverage. So 599 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: if John Deere wasn't suffering, if they weren't having trouble 600 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: getting their parts and their tractors out the door and 601 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 1: delivered on time, then they wouldn't have a lot of 602 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: incentive to come back with a better deal. They'd be 603 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: doing Okay, you know, they have this ridiculous plan in 604 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: place where they've got a bunch of their like office workers, 605 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: white collar workers trying to fill in mostly I think, 606 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: dealing with inventory and trying to get parts out the door. 607 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: That plan is clearly not adequate and not working to 608 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: deliver on time time for their customers and for these 609 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: farmers this is really a make or break time of year. 610 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: In this story, they say, parts and components that US 611 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: farmers need to keep combines running in the busiest farming 612 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: season the year are taking as many as three weeks 613 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: to reach customer hands. That is in eternity when fields 614 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: need to be quickly harvested to stay ahead of wintry weather. 615 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: According to dealers and customers in the industry, so the 616 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: fact that the workers are causing John Deere to feel 617 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: pain here is highly significant in terms of ultimately their 618 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: negotiating position. Right, And so John Deere themselves saying, look, 619 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: we're done, We're not negotiating anymore. We'll see right. They've 620 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: said this is our final offer after it was rejected 621 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: there by the UAW. It was an immediate ten percent raise. 622 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they are pointing out that John Deere has 623 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: just had its best year ever and looking into it 624 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: a bit more, what John Deere is trying to do 625 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: and they're going to increasingly face difficulty. Is they're going 626 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: to try and use overseas manufacturers and US strike breakers 627 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: in order to continue this. You're going to basically try 628 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: to import. Well, I guess our scabs and import ain't 629 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna work in a supply chain crisis. You might have 630 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: heard of a backup over at the Port of LA 631 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: So they're doubly screwed. And when it comes to that, 632 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: and same with the strike breakers, it's very clear these 633 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: people have no ability because there are a lot of 634 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: skilled employees that are out on strike, and they found that, 635 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, they tried to bring their office workers in. 636 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: More so, John Deere also posturing here, the real question is, look, 637 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna hold out longer? And I think that the 638 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: workers having rejected two separate offers now, you know, and 639 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: saying no, absolutely not worth sticking to our guns, puts 640 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: the company in a real bad position. So two three 641 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: weeks from now, I think they're going to we'll see 642 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: if they come back to the table. It also it 643 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: was kind of, you know, it was a little duplicitous 644 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: the way that the company handled this latest contract offer 645 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: because they put it out there, and the vote for 646 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: the ratification happened before they made that statement that this 647 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: was their last best offer, which you know is a 648 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: useful piece of information when people are ultimately voting on 649 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: whether they're going to accept this deal or not. But 650 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, one of the key things 651 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: that workers have been complaining about and why they ultimately 652 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: decided to go out on strike was because of this 653 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: two tier system, and that was left in place in 654 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: the offer that was put on the table. As you referenced, 655 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: always important to note John Deere enjoying record breaking profits 656 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: nearly six billion dollars less projection for their full year earnings, 657 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: so they could make life better for these workers, they 658 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: could get rid of the two tier system if they 659 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: so chose. Clearly workers having an impact putting the squeeze 660 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: on them here. But as you guys know, John Deer 661 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: workers not the only workers who are on strike or 662 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: considering going on strike authorizing strike. We've been tracking over 663 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: thirty thousand healthcare workers for Kaiser who had previously authorized 664 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: a strike. They've taken another step that inches them right 665 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: up to the door of walking out, giving that company 666 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: ten day notice that they intend to go out on 667 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: strike on November fifteenth. This is from more Perfect Union. 668 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: They say thirty two thousand Kaiser workers have given ten 669 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: day notice they'll go out on strike. Workers in California 670 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: and Oregon are fighting against what two tier pay structure 671 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: that will slash new worker wages. They are also demanding 672 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: at least four percent raises. And part of why the 673 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: two tier system for Kaiser is so significant to these workers, 674 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: even the ones who you know are benefiting from the 675 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: higher level tier, is that these hospitals are dramatically understaffed, 676 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: so the workers that are there are being you know, 677 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: horrifically burdened and of course having you know, still being 678 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: in a pandemic and having come through the worst of 679 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: a pandemic. These people on the ground, I mean the 680 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: hours they've been going through, in the emotional toll, in 681 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: the burden, all of that. Well, if you have low 682 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: wages that you're offering to workers, you're going to stay understaffed. 683 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: Because we know that workers have a little bit of 684 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: power right now. And also a lot of workers are 685 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: leaving the healthcare industry because of what they went the 686 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: hell they went through through COVID, so they also feel 687 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: like this two tier structure means that they're staffing crisis 688 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: and their agony around that is just going to continue. 689 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: So again, Kaiser, huge profits ten billion dollars that they 690 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: made during the pandemic. If they wanted to get rid 691 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: of the two tier structure, if they wanted to give 692 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: their workers that, I'm sure they were happy to praise 693 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: as essential. You know, there are heroes, yes, etc. Etc. 694 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: If they wanted to give them four percent raise, little 695 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: bit of a bump and pay, they have more than 696 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: enough to be able to do that. Yeah, And look, 697 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm always stunned whenever we look at the actual demands. 698 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: Here's what they're asking for, a four percent increase for 699 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: nurses and healthcare workers annually for the next three years. 700 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: Kaiser said, it's offering two percent. How are you supposed 701 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: to do with two percent? I mean, what are we 702 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: already covering inflation, food gas? I mean two percent is 703 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: not even going to cut it in the best of times. 704 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: And you're offering only four. How is that possible in 705 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: one of the most major economic disruptions in modern history. 706 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: And that's the thing they're willing to go to bat 707 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: just for four They should get ten. If they're what 708 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: they're really looking for. Especially they made ten billion in 709 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: terms of all of the healthcare subsidies that we've thrown 710 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: at these companies during coronavirus. I mean, they're doing better 711 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: than ever. And these people have to go out and 712 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: risk their livelihood just for a four percent annual raise 713 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: at a time where the cost of goods in terms 714 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: of what it actually costs, is going up much more 715 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: than that. You know, that pisses me off the most 716 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: about this. They're asking for less of a decrease in 717 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: their wages. Yes's actively when you factor in inflation. I mean, 718 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: that's what they're really asking for here. To get closer 719 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: to keeping up with the pace of inflation is what 720 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: they're asking for. And an end to the tier two 721 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: tier structure, which has made their lives miserable and also 722 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: of course breaks solidarity between the workforce and which is 723 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: the which is the whole intention of all of this. 724 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting. I don't know if you 725 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: guys covered it last week when I was out, but 726 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: Joe Wisenthal tweeted Bloomberg article about how you have to 727 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, I say that one for you. Two major 728 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: carriage FedEx and UPS. Okay, FedEx is non union. UPS 729 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: is organized by the teamsters. They're union workers. They're much 730 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: higher paid. These are good, you know, these are good 731 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: middle class jobs where if you're driving, you work your 732 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: way up, you can be making one hundred grand a year, 733 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: good benefits, pens and all those sorts of that sort 734 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: of middle class stability. By the way, very very difficult jobs, 735 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: but you're able to earn enough to achieve that middle 736 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: class lifestyle. Not the case for FedEx. And now in 737 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: this crisis, FedEx is basically screwed because their workforce is 738 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: quitting mass. They have a massive labor shortage. They're having 739 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: to reroute hundreds of thousands of packages to deal with 740 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: the fact that they don't have enough drivers and other 741 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: workers to be able to handle the package load that 742 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: they've been inundated with. So, even though they pay their 743 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,479 Speaker 1: workers much much less, UPS is not only making more, 744 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: but they have lower costs exactly because they actually have 745 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: the workforce that they needed. They have less turnover, people 746 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: are trained, their system is able to work efficiently, and 747 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: so they are destroying FedEx in the competition right now, 748 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: Just showing how the whole point that I wanted to 749 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: make with this is basically these companies can be pennywise 750 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: and pound foolish, whereby trying to nickel and dime their 751 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: workers and not paying them enough to actually make it 752 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 1: worth it to take the job or to do the job, 753 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: they're actually shooting themselves in the foot here. Ultimately, So 754 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: even if you don't care about the fairness of the 755 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: people who got us through this pandemic and have been 756 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: doing the lord's work, I had my own interactions with 757 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: the healthcare system last week, and God bless those nurses 758 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: and the work that they have taken on every single day. 759 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: Even if you don't care about this, this can be 760 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: incredibly idiotic just from a business perspective in order to 761 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: continue to have an efficient operation and be able to 762 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: profit and expand and move forward. It's very true, you know, 763 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: even anecdotally seeing stuff on next door or whatever. By 764 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: the way, if anybody's not on nextdoor, I recommend it 765 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: just to see what the Karens are up to. But 766 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: everybody is saying stuff like, oh my gosh, can't send 767 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: anything by FedEx. And I had to send something to somebody, 768 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: and I read that article and I was like, here 769 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: we go, Yes, this is why it's a little bit further, 770 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: but I'm going to the ups store to actually make 771 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: sure my thing gets there on time. It's the difference 772 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: between a high profit margin but fragile business exactly and 773 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: a sustainable business supply chain all of those things, and 774 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: having workers who actually can live and are happy relatively 775 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: in their job makes your business much less fragile, ultimately 776 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: makes your entire economy allow us. Unions in many way 777 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: are a very tool for anti fragility. So there we go. 778 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, let's move on to this one media segment. 779 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: You know, we covered when You're Out Crystal, the Meltdown 780 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: MSNBC Meltdown, I don't know it's Johnny Mautsire was some 781 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: of the most beautiful television that we received quite a 782 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: long time. Joy Read and Nicole Wallace there talking about 783 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: critical race theory. Brian Selter I guess to his credit 784 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: over there over at CNN, he invited Batya, who we've 785 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: had here on the show, who talked about woke news, 786 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: bad news, and why wokeness is bad for the media generally, 787 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: in order to discuss both her book in the context 788 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: of the Virginia election, and she basically called him out 789 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: right to his face, eliciting a pretty hilarious reaction. Let's 790 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: take a listen. But a lot of this conversation around 791 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: Wolkness is actually about class. We are hiding a class 792 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: divide in America. We are hiding the just disgusting levels 793 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: of income inequality in America. We are hiding the total 794 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: dispossession of the working class of all races by focusing 795 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: on a very highly specialized academic language around race. And 796 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: I think what happened, you know, Glenn Youngkin's victory was 797 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: a perfect example of this. The media's response to Youngkin's 798 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: victory is literally the reason that he won, right, How 799 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: did they respond? There was one hundred media as one 800 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: hundred reactions. You're being pretty overly generalized, and I think 801 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: let me get more specific for you, Okay, because I 802 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: have to say, I have to admit, having watched sann 803 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: all week, there's been a lot of very very very 804 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: good genuflection on this front. But what happened right after 805 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: the election was you saw host after host after host 806 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: on MSNBC saying, oh, this is a victory for white supremacy. Right, 807 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: white supremacy wins again. Racism wins again. When you know 808 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor that Youngkin one with will be the 809 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: first black woman to hold that job. When Glenn Youngkin 810 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: managed to flip majority black districts, when he managed to 811 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: get between forty and fifty percent of Latino voters, are 812 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: all of those people white supremacists? Of course, of course 813 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: they're not. They're people who are worried about number one, 814 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: the economy, right, and number two schooling. And it seems 815 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: to me it is such a self owned to tell 816 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: people who are worried about the economy that that is 817 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: white supremacy, right. You are essentially criminalizing the views of 818 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: working class Americans. Hmmm, Oh, interesting point. And for Brian 819 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: to say he doesn't know what she's talking about, Grabian 820 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: actually put together a nice little super cut including much 821 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: of CNN's coverage. This is what their actual response to 822 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: the election was. Batcha is not lying whenever she says 823 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: that this is pretty much the uniform take. Let's take 824 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: a lesson Glenn Younkein played the race card for a 825 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: reason because he knows it works on certain white voters. 826 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: He did stoke white grievance politics to mobilize the Republican base. 827 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: He's laundered Trump's really sort of disgusting, flagrant out racism. 828 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: He's wrapped it in education. Education, which is code for 829 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: white parents. Don't like the idea of teaching about race. 830 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: That's the fundamental problem for these parents and this anti 831 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: CRT movement. They don't like the way whiteness is being 832 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: portrayed in these new, more inclusive lessons. This wasn't about 833 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: those pocketbook issues. This was about how white kids feel 834 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: talking about what black kids go through. The subtext of 835 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: all this was we can't let these black and brown 836 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: people run the country. Glenn Youngkin running on critical race 837 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: theory that he knew hit a chord around race. I 838 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: think all the CRT stuff is trumped up dog whistling. 839 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: Some of it was dog whistle racism. The dog whistle 840 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: messaging that you saw Young Cain engage in during the 841 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: course of the campaign. CRT is the latest line of 842 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: school bussing, crosshound bussing, the welfare queens. You have it same, 843 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: It's in that same line, and you saw it in 844 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: the results in Virginia. It's more palatable. Republican who still 845 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: uses the same racist themes that Trump did, he just 846 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: packaged them in a sock. Her dead sweater best model. 847 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: He's found a way to launder a pretty racist trope, 848 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: this idea that we cannot talk about America's history because 849 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: it hurts my feelings. He's turned that into a campaign. 850 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: White voters do have anxiety about a changing America right 851 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: that it is blacker, it is browner. You've got the 852 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: Republicans yelling like, hey, look, the black and brown folks 853 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: are coming for us. Some Republican candidates are perfectly willing 854 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: to use race as a motivating factor for their base. 855 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: That has gone on for decades, and it happened this year. 856 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: Race is just the most palpable tool in the toolkit 857 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: used to be of the Democratic Party back in the 858 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: day when they were Distocrats, and now of the Republican Party. 859 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: This is about the fact that a good chunk of 860 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: voters out there are okay with white supremacy. Let's call 861 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: a thing a thing. Actually scratch that, they are more 862 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: than okay. There's a lot. So, first of all, I 863 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: think both the that analysis and people on the right 864 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: who are like CRD we found our thing, like this 865 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: is what we're going to run with. I think both 866 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: are way overestimating how much of a factor this was 867 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: in Virginia or these other races, because we saw the 868 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: same shift to Republicans among independent voters and suburbans, et 869 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: cetera across So not just in Virginia, but in New 870 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: Jersey too, and Nassau County in Long Island, right so 871 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: where you know, here in Virginia there were these couple 872 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: little flare ups around what was being taught in the schools, 873 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, But that was not the case in those 874 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: states exactly. So I think the analysis is a lot 875 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: more simple. You have seventy percent of Americans who say 876 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: the country is on the wrong track and Democrats are 877 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: in charge, so there's a huge swing. I don't want 878 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: to say that it had nothing to do with it. 879 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: And yes, racial politics are incredibly potent and continue to 880 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: be incredibly potent in American politics, but also just on 881 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: the school issue, you know, I actually saw a pretty 882 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: good segment on CNN where they interviewed four white suburban 883 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: moms who had flipped from voting for Biden to voting 884 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: for young kid, and their concerns were schools. It had 885 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: nothing to do with CRT. Every single one of them 886 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: was totally clear, like no, I was pissed off that 887 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: the schools were shut down. I was pissed off that 888 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: my kids are behind and I don't feel like these 889 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: schools are doing enough to get them ahead. Now, look, 890 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: you can say governors don't have all that much too, 891 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: that's probably more of a local school board issue, et cetera, 892 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. But I think a lot of the energy 893 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: around education that was represented as about CRT was actually 894 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: about questions around school closures and learning laws and those 895 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: sorts of things. I couldn't agree with you more. And 896 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: actually what happened is that CRT. And once again, I'm 897 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: not going to diminish it. I do think it was 898 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: potent in some respects, perhaps with some voters, But I 899 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: did not know this Virginia behind Maryland, was the locality 900 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: or the state which kept its schools closed for longer 901 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: than second anybody else in the entire country. That seems 902 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: pretty you know, potent. Yeah, And look, it's exactly right. 903 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: And that's what we pointed to here over and over again, 904 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: which is, look, is critical race theory part of it. Yes, 905 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 1: but the number one issue in this election was the economy. 906 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: Number one, thirty three percent of all voters as opposed 907 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: to twenty something percent on education, said that it was 908 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: the economy, inflation being one of the major concerns. Glenn 909 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: Youngkin famously ran that ad, which we played here on 910 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: the show, and I have not yet heard a single 911 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: media personality point to it about lowering grocery prices. That 912 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: is actually pretty goddamn effective in an election where whenever 913 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: you go, when you talk to working people, and I'm 914 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: actually going to get to in my monologue around gas 915 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: prices and conversations even I've overheard organically that is the 916 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: main thing that's affecting. And same whenever it comes to education. 917 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: There's a Matt Glassman. He's a political analyst. He tweeted 918 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: something like this. He's like, look in my interaction with 919 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: Fairfax voters who switched from from Biden to Glenn Youngkin, 920 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with critical race theory. Fairfax 921 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: County just had its schools closed longer than almost any 922 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: school district in the nation. So I am a white 923 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: Virginia soccer mom. I live in a rural county. I 924 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: don't think you could even call it exurbin But I 925 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: talked to the other moms. Okay, not one of them. 926 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: I have yet to ever hear anyone in King George 927 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: County used the words critical race theory. What I have 928 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: heard a lot of talk about is inflation, cost at 929 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: the grocery store, cost to stay, an ability to get fit, 930 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: you know, anew whatever it is that they wanted to 931 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: get into their house for Christmas. And I've heard a 932 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: lot of talk about school policies with regarding even now 933 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: to ongoing quarantine. So if your kid is exposed, they 934 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: have to go on for two weeks and you have 935 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: to get them tests, and the tests you're expensive, the 936 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: misery of virtual schooling. I heard a lot about how 937 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: kids got behind. However's trying to meddle through. Those are 938 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: the conversations that at least I'm hearing among the other 939 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: soccer moms in my town. Now, again that's not to 940 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: say that this had nothing to do with it, but 941 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the analysis really oversold it. 942 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: And to go back to Butch's point, part of why 943 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: it's very convenient for the sort of media liberals to 944 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: lean into this analysis of just like, well everybody's a racism. 945 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: What can you do is it lets the Democrats completely 946 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: off the hook if everyone is just irretrievable, you know, 947 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: irrevocably racist, and there's nothing you can do about it, 948 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: then their failure is justified. Terry mccaulliff, you know, he 949 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: run a brilliant campaign, it's just people are racist. What 950 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: can you do? And of course they never talk about 951 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 1: the fact that there's some conflicting data about how Glen 952 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: Youngkin did with Latinos, but looks like he did pretty 953 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: well with Latino either want a majority or near majority, 954 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: or with Asian and also with Asian Americans. So those 955 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: pieces of the conversation are totally left out, I think 956 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: on the analysis all the way around. And I also 957 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: think Botch's point though, is a good one that part 958 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: of why Democrats are seeing such an erosion with working 959 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: class voters is because, rather than focusing on what they 960 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: could deliver for people to build back better Bill in 961 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: its total collapse being case in point, they lean into 962 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: this very off putting language where if your whole politics 963 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: is around culture war signaling, and what you've decided to 964 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: signal to is just this like group of educated, suburban 965 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: white people, then that's who you're gonna win. And by 966 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: the way, Terry McCalls actually did better yes, than Biden 967 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: did with white suburban women's college graduate women. The people 968 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 1: you were going after they showed up for you, Maybe 969 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: run a campaign that's going to appeal to a broader 970 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: group of people. Very, very excellent point. All right, let's 971 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: get to this next story, which is really harrowing. The 972 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: worst concert disaster since nineteen seventy nine in the United States. 973 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: We're talking about Astro World and Travis Scott's concert over 974 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: this weekend in the city of Houston. So let's put 975 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 1: this New York Times tear sheet up there on the screen, 976 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 1: which actually does a decent enough job of summarizing exactly 977 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: what happened here. So the Astra World concert, there's been 978 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion here online. Now. The number one 979 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: thing is that there were a couple of different things 980 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: that were happening. Number one is that the crowds themselves 981 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: were just simply out of control. And what they point 982 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: to within this Times article is that the signs of 983 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: trouble were not immediately apparent, but that concert goers at 984 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: the very beginning were beginning to see that there was 985 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 1: a major crush of people that were entering the venue 986 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: and that increasingly they felt claustrophobic, very much in the 987 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: hours to the lead up before Travis Scott even took 988 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: the stage, So that was number one. Number two was 989 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: that there is a lot of discussion about both security, 990 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: the fact that security was not able to secure the venue, 991 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: and we will get to a video showing very much 992 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: of that, but also healthcare workers themselves embedded within the crowd, 993 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: whether they had enough the ability to EMTs and more 994 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: in order to respond to the disaster once it occurred. 995 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: Three is that the authorities and travel Scott himself are 996 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: under major question here as to why they did not 997 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: shut the concert down whenever it was then apparent that 998 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: things were totally out of control. Four and Crystal, You've 999 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: gone very down the loophole here is that there was 1000 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: some possible incident in terms of there was a rumor 1001 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: going around that somebody was injecting somebody else with something 1002 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: within the crowd, which might have spawned some of the 1003 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: initial freak out disaster. Houston authorities confirmed that that was 1004 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: under investigation. Again under investigation, not necessarily that it was true. 1005 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: So there was a confluence of kind of just crazy 1006 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: stuff that was happening, and just to give people an 1007 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: idea of what the crush looked like. Let's go ahead 1008 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: and put this video there. You can see here the 1009 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: vip entrance where people were blasting through the barricade. I'm 1010 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: talking about hundreds and hundreds of people that are just 1011 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: streaming through, knocking over the metal detectors, overwhelming the security guards. 1012 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: You can see that security at the venue was just 1013 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: clearly not adequate. And you know, I think it's important 1014 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: to note that Travis Scott himself has encouraged this type 1015 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: of behavior in terms of rushing into the venue telling 1016 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: people to get in there, you know, kind of regardless 1017 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: of whatever the consequences might be. I'm not saying directly 1018 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: he's like responsible or whatever, but it is something that 1019 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: he has said in the past, and it's important in 1020 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: order to note with that security video, from what we 1021 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: can see about what was happening, that Scott himself appeared 1022 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: to be slightly aware of that there was some chaos 1023 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: within the crowd while their actual rescue attempts were being made. 1024 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: So this is another video. Put this up there on 1025 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: the screen please, where you can see that Scott himself 1026 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: is playing and singing while somebody is unconscious directly below him. 1027 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: And so the camera pans there to somebody who is 1028 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: completely unconscious being grabbed there by EMT texts. So there's 1029 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot happening. Crystal Travis Scott apparently had not stopped 1030 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: the concert. Brat posited a couple of times somebody okay, 1031 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: so he was an aware that something was going on 1032 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: while this disaster unfolded. Eight people are dead, okay, and 1033 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about little teenagers, fourteen, sixteen year old boys, 1034 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: some twenty one year old college students. These are very 1035 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: very young victims. And there are hundreds of people were 1036 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: injured as well. So it's a terrible situation, really sad. 1037 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: Eight people killed, hundreds injured at this point, one of 1038 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: the worst concert tragedies in history. And to your point, 1039 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: and this is the big question, honestly, why didn't they 1040 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: stop it sooner? Yeah? I mean there are other videos 1041 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: going around of people climbing up to where the camera 1042 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: operators are trying to get them, trying to get them 1043 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: screening app people are dying, like I'm trying to save 1044 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: the life here stop and trying to get them turn 1045 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: the cameras on to do something to stop the concert. 1046 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: The show went on for forty minutes after authorities say 1047 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: this became a mass casualty event forty more minutes. And 1048 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 1: so in some ways, the fact that the live streams 1049 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: Travis Scott sometimes pausing, stopping the songs and then continuing, 1050 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: it's almost more damning because after the fact he said, oh, 1051 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: we had no idea what was going on. And look, 1052 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: I believe that he didn't know the extent of how 1053 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: bad things were, but clearly there were indications that he 1054 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: knew this was going poorly and no one steps in 1055 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: to stop. So I did go really deep on this. 1056 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: I read a lot about it. I watch a lot 1057 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: of the videos because you just ask yourself, like, how 1058 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: the hell did this happen? And I do think it 1059 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: was just this confluence of horrific factors. You had way 1060 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: too many people packed in to this place, and when 1061 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: you look at some of the videos, I mean, you 1062 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: can't even distinguish the people one from another. It's just 1063 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: this mass of humanity, almost like a wave of peding 1064 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: there just being buffeted around, totally out of control, like 1065 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: these individuals had no control over where they were going 1066 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: or what was happening to them. Then you had, you know, 1067 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: the factor that people in black Down their first in 1068 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: many instances, live concert experience in a long time. So yeah, 1069 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: the atmosphere was very chaotic, as evidenced by the video 1070 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: that you just showed. He apparently put a countdown clock 1071 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: up on the screen leading up to his appearance, so 1072 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: starting at thirty minutes, and on the ground reports from 1073 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: people who were there and survived say that every minute 1074 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: it was getting packed in more and more and more 1075 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: tightly leading up to his appearance, and then people started 1076 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: having trouble breathing, and then people start of course they're screaming. 1077 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: There are other people are screaming as loud as they 1078 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: can for help. The crowd in Unison is chanting stop 1079 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: the show, and people are passing out unconscious, getting stepped on, 1080 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: getting trampled. We still don't know exactly the cause of 1081 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: death for the eight individuals who were dead. I read 1082 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: from there are people who are experts on crowd control 1083 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: and on these kind of crowd surges and what happens. 1084 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: Apparently the most common cause of death from a surge 1085 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: like this isn't actually from getting trampled, it's from asphyxiation. 1086 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: So you literally can't You're compressed so much that you 1087 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: literally can't breathe. There have been documented instances where the 1088 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: the energy from the crowd is so intense that it 1089 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: bends metal barricades that are meant to withstand one thousand 1090 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: pounds of pressure. So that's what people who were in 1091 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: the middle of this, that's what they were ultimately up against. 1092 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: Then you add on top of that, as you were saying, 1093 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: these reports that somebody or multiple somebodies were going around 1094 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: injecting people with what appears to be some kind of drug. 1095 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: And the reason that this had some credibility to it 1096 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: is because the police chief of Houston, in a press conference, 1097 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: said that there was a security guard who reported who 1098 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: was actually administering CPR on someone or tending to someone 1099 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: who had passed down, and who reported feeling a prick 1100 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: in their neck. Then they were went unconscious, had to 1101 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: be revived with nolozone, and there was a you know, 1102 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: a pinprick on the neck consistent with having been injected 1103 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: with something. And then there were other bystander reports. So 1104 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: that's where that piece comes in. And you know, I 1105 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: also write reports that said even before Travis Scott took 1106 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: the stage, the paramedics who were there at the festival, 1107 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: because look, festivals, you're always gonna have people who are 1108 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, drink too much passing an hour, it's too 1109 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: hot or whatever, so you're gonna have some health issues. 1110 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: That's you know, almost a given at these festival environments. 1111 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: But that they were already overwhelmed with hundreds of people 1112 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: who were having significant injuries, to the point that they 1113 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: could no longer even keep track of all the people 1114 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: that they were having to treat even before Travis Scott 1115 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: took the stage. So just a horrific tragedy here, and 1116 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about what the hell happened, why 1117 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: the show wasn't stopped, why there wasn't more security in place, 1118 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: why people were so incredibly tightly packed in to start with. Yeah, 1119 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: I think the real one to me is on my 1120 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: own outrage that there are people who were there who 1121 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: were in full knowledge that there was something very terrible 1122 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: that was happening. And this, just to give you an example, 1123 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: put this on the screen. I mean, Kylie Jenner, who 1124 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, I guess is somewhat engaged with Travis Scott. 1125 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the situation is. Put this 1126 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: video on the screen, please, and you can see from 1127 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: her now deleted Instagram story that you know, you can 1128 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: see an ambulance trying to make its way through this crowd, 1129 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: an EMT card making its way to an unconscious victim, 1130 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: and so over and over again, we see a situation 1131 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: where people there seemed to know something was going on. 1132 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: They weren't stopping the concert, as you said, people were 1133 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 1: climbing up to the cameras please stop. Wasn't happening. And 1134 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: there are eight people who are dead, some of whom 1135 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: are fourteen sixteen teenage boys, college students who are not 1136 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: going home, and so all of this amounts to the 1137 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: worst concert disaster since nineteen seventy nine. A lot of 1138 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: people were pointing to an old clip from Lincoln Park, 1139 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I think was in the mid two thousands where they 1140 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 1: stopped their concert in the middle being like, hey stop, stop. 1141 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: They're like, is this person safe? Are we good? Got 1142 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: to make sure everybody's safe, and then they continue the show. 1143 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: That's what it should be all about. And so there's 1144 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: still a lot of questions. There are a lot of 1145 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: people that are going to have to provide a lot 1146 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: of answers as to what we're wrong here, because you know, 1147 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: people died and it's not a joke. Yeah, indeed, this 1148 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: isn't a joke. It wasn't a game, and it's heartbreaking 1149 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: for these families who lost their loved ones in a 1150 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: horrific tragedy. Okay, Chrystal, what are you taking a look at? Well? Guys, 1151 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: As Glenn Youngkin jumped into the political fray, his old 1152 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: colleagues at private equity giant Carlisle Group, they kind of 1153 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: prepared for the worst. They were waiting for the moment 1154 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: when the companies ghoulish maneuvers and sociopathic ethos would ultimately 1155 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: break into the open. Here's a Bloomberg piece citing that 1156 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: from August. They say former colleagues have been bracing for 1157 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Youngkin's run to not only spot like Carlile's past controversies 1158 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: akin to what Mitt Romney's presidential runted to being capital, 1159 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: but for it to also dredge up missteps by Youngkin 1160 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: and managers he oversaw, and there was plenty to be 1161 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: concerned about. Carlile Group first gain notoriety thanks to Michael 1162 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Moore's documentary Fahrenheit nine to eleven. In that documentary, he 1163 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: tracked how they profited off the attack through their extensive 1164 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: ties to Saudi Arabia and their investments in the defense industry. 1165 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Former President George Bush Senior happened to be an advisor 1166 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: at the time, putting the Bush family in position to 1167 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: personally profit from our for and for wars. And then 1168 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 1: there's just the generally ghoulish behavior that is the business 1169 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: model of private equity. You may recall John Oliver exposed 1170 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 1: one aspect of this, Carlile Group has gotten into the 1171 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: trailer park business, buying up mobile home parks, jacking up rents, 1172 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 1: and evicting tenants on mass exploiting the most vulnerable among 1173 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: us for fun and profit. But for some reason, the 1174 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Virginia governor's race did not include much discussion of the 1175 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: way rapacious vultures like Lynn Youngkin and Carlisle Group looked 1176 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,959 Speaker 1: to profit off of war and poverty. Why was that, Well, 1177 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: there was one me and Ceeween see a little problem. 1178 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Democratic candidate Terry mccauliffe had himself profited off of Carlisle Group. 1179 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: As friend of the show, Matt Stellar put it, quote, 1180 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: I love that Terry McAuliffe couldn't attack Youngkin's Carlisle Group 1181 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: record because mccauliffe was an investor in a Carlisle fund. 1182 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats, indeed, But the corruption and 1183 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: co opting of the Democratic Party by Wall Street and 1184 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: business interests is not just a problem for the Virginia 1185 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: governor's race. In fact, their capture by business interests has 1186 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: destroyed their ability to deliver for regular people, and I 1187 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: would go so far as to say that it poses 1188 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 1: an existential threat to the country. Now, let me first 1189 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: say that the GOP is at least as capture as 1190 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. They have long been the party of 1191 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 1: big business, and deciding to occasionally talk about the working 1192 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: class has changed absolutely nothing in that regard. But when 1193 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the working class really went off a cliff is when 1194 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party also became captured by big money. Terry 1195 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: mccuff was part of this shift with his bestie Bill Clinton. 1196 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Clinton used populous language to win the presidency, and then 1197 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: he quickly shifted to reorient the party away from labor 1198 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: and towards business. Clinton and his DLC pals they decided 1199 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: they didn't want to leave all the big money fundraising 1200 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: to the Republicans. And that's, of course, to say nothing 1201 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: of the post public service corporate gigs Supreme Court decisions 1202 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: that opened the floodgates of corporate cash continually just made 1203 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: this situation worse, and so now Democrats unsurprisingly find themselves 1204 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: unable to deliver on even the most modest of campaign 1205 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: promises thanks to their complete industry capture. Joe Biden he 1206 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: promised to be the most pro union president in history. 1207 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: He championed the pro Act, which would help tilt the 1208 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: balance of power a little bit back towards w Oh 1209 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: who would you look at that multi level marketing companies 1210 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 1: also known as pyramid schemes, which should by all rights 1211 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: be illegal. They have been funneling money to Kirston Cinema 1212 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: to buy her opposition to the pro Act and make 1213 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: sure it can't pass through reconciliation or through any other method. 1214 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But of course the problems are way bigger than just 1215 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Karson Cinema or Joe Manchip. Joe Biden promised he would 1216 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: lift the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. It 1217 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: was really the only thing that he promised Bernie in 1218 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: exchange for Bernie's endorsement. But unfortunately New Hampshire's two Democratic senators, 1219 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: along with a number of other Democrats, have been bought 1220 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: off by the National Restaurant Association, causing them to oppose 1221 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: an extremely popular and badly needed lift to the minimum wage. 1222 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: This steadfast industry opposition has allowed the minimum wage to 1223 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: languish at seven dollars and twenty five cents, going the 1224 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 1: longest time in history without a race. Joe Biden also 1225 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: was reportedly extremely committed to the idea of free community college. 1226 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 1: He emphasized it even after his election, guaranteeing that it 1227 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: would be included in his Build Back Better agenda. Was 1228 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: a lynchpin of his plan to give working class Americans 1229 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 1: a shot at the American dream. But the four year 1230 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: college industry couldn't have community college getting all the glory 1231 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: and more importantly, having a competitive edge in the market 1232 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: for paying student customers, so they sent out their lobbyists 1233 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and low and behold, Biden's top priority for Build Back 1234 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: Better was no match for their organized money. And finally, 1235 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: there's prescription drug prices. Now. Democrats have literally been promising 1236 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: to have Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices since two thousand 1237 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: and six. Virtually every Democrat, including the worst ones like 1238 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: Kirston Cinema, they all campaigned on it. Why because it's obvious, 1239 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: it's non controversial, and it's extremely popular. It's also a 1240 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: very high priority of American people. But of course Big 1241 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 1: Pharma opposed it, and they have won, as they always do. 1242 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: The original reform is out. It's been replaced, possibly with 1243 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: a stripped down industry approved version, which will do little 1244 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: to actually save costs or reduce the ability a big 1245 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: pharma to steal from the nation's seniors. Now, these failures 1246 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and obvious corruption, they are an electoral disaster for Democrats, 1247 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: as evidenced by the mccauff Young Cain race. More broadly, 1248 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: when both parties serve a similar set of elite interests 1249 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: on economics, politics just collapses down to culture war, and 1250 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Republicans have a way better hand to play in culture 1251 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: war issues than Democrats do. There are simply way more 1252 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: non college educated Americans than there are college educated Americans, 1253 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: and Republicans have staked out more favorable ground, signaling more 1254 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: effectively to these non college educated voters. But more importantly, 1255 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 1: these failures and obvious corruption pose a clear and present 1256 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: danger to the society writ large, most obviously by blocking 1257 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: even the most basic and needed reforms, let alone the 1258 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: more transformational policies that our rig system desperately calls out for, 1259 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: but by destroying any and all faith in electoral politics 1260 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: as an effective means for change at all. This is 1261 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: an extraordinarily dangerous situation, because when people lose faith in 1262 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: democratic processes, well, they turn in more desperate measures. What 1263 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: does that look like, Well, we know, looks like reaching 1264 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: for pseudo strong men like Trump or worse, looks like 1265 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: susceptibility to the type of conspiracy theories that gave us 1266 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: January six in significant anti vac sentiment. After all, when 1267 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 1: so many parts of the system are actually rigged, becomes 1268 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: pretty easy to believe in nefarious forces doing nefarious things 1269 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 1: for power and for money. Looks like nationwide riots sparked 1270 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 1: by justifiable rage that the casual snuffing out of human 1271 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: life all in order to attempt to maintain police state 1272 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: order on the American underclass. It looks like nihilism punctuated 1273 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,919 Speaker 1: by rage. A nation bearing witness to our own dysfunction 1274 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: and decline, a country led by greedy plutocrats who will 1275 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: never stop ringing the system to get a little bit richer, 1276 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: even if it destroys the very nation that made them rich. 1277 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: In the first place in Sager. It has never been 1278 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 1: more clear the way that money they don't have to 1279 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: buy everybody. But if you just buy a few key 1280 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: All right, Tacher, what are you looking at? Well? Where 1281 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 1: is Joe Biden? Increasingly I am having the difficulty coming 1282 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 1: to terms with just how bad of a president that 1283 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Biden actually is. This isn't some boomer monologue about empty 1284 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: shelves Joe or some bad faith critique. Really, what it 1285 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: is is a total disbelief on my part that Biden 1286 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: would be so inept at even pretending to care about 1287 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: some of the most basic determinants of why people vote 1288 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: and some of the outward factors that most govern the 1289 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,440 Speaker 1: day to day lives of American citizens. My previous monologue 1290 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: on food prices delved deeply into the food supply chain 1291 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and the various supply shocks around the world increasing the 1292 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 1: price of food. But as promised, today's monologue is about 1293 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: the other expenditure, which is gas. Now, I was driving 1294 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 1: around in my Jeep Wrangler this weekend, the most superior 1295 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: vehicle ever made on the face of this earth, when, 1296 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: of course I had to stop and fill up my 1297 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: gas tank. Now I knew I was going to write this, 1298 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: and I swear right after I heard out got out, 1299 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: I heard two people organically having a conversation about how 1300 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the increase in the price of gas and food was 1301 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: killing them and why won't anyone do anything about it? Now. Look, 1302 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: I have explained many times that the president generally has 1303 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty little to do with the price of gas. But 1304 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: the problem is most people don't know that. And when 1305 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: most people don't know that, it means as a politician, 1306 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: all you should be doing every day is signaling to 1307 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: everyday Americans that you at least feel their pain, that 1308 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: you are at least doing everything humanly possible in order 1309 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: to fix it. Instead, this is how Energy Secretary Jennifer 1310 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Granholm reacted on Bloomberg News when she was confronted with 1311 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 1: what she and the Biden administration are doing about the 1312 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: price of gas in Sturgis, Michigan. It is two dollars 1313 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: eighty nine cents a gallon. I guess that's better than 1314 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: in California. What is the grand home plan to increase 1315 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: oil production in America? Oh? My, that is hilarious. Would 1316 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that I had the magic wand on this. As you know, 1317 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: of course, oil is a global market. It is controlled 1318 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: by a cartel. That cartel is called OPEK, and they 1319 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: made a decision yesterday that they were not going to 1320 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: increase beyond what they were already planning. You could not 1321 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: script more. Let them eat cake. Moment you're the energy 1322 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 1: secretary of Missus, grant hoolme at least pretend that you 1323 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: can do something. Many of you might have heard me 1324 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: reference one of the books behind me lately. It's called 1325 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Freedom from Fear. It's an Oxford history of the FDR 1326 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: presidency from the Depression through World War Two. One of 1327 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 1: the most important parts of that book is this, The 1328 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 1: New Deal really didn't work for the first couple of 1329 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: years of the FDR presidency, and yet FDR was overwhelmingly 1330 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: popular and reelected. The economy was actually worse and unemployment 1331 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: was going up, but he remained a living god in 1332 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,639 Speaker 1: the United States. How the answer is that people, though 1333 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: they were suffering, felt that at least Roosevelt, unlike the 1334 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: rest of corrupt Washington, understood what they were going through. 1335 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: And every day they picked up the newspaper they saw 1336 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: that he was at least trying his damnedest with the 1337 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: program for this or that, with this act or that act, 1338 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,679 Speaker 1: by throwing the federal government into a posture of action, 1339 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 1: he at the very least had their trust before things 1340 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: got better. That's the dirty secret of politics. You really 1341 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: don't even have to be good on paper. If you 1342 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: just appear in charge, you are in charge. And Biden 1343 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: is nowhere to be seen. His literally designated official is 1344 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: laughing her head off on national TV about the plight 1345 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: of millions of people, and I just want to scream, 1346 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 1: do something. Those who watch this show know that I'm 1347 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: not some maga warrior, but I at least have to 1348 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: say that Trump understood this pretty well when he was president. 1349 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Back in the days when I was a White House correspondent, 1350 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: I remember well how Trump fixated on the price of gas. 1351 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: When there was an attack on a Saudi oil tanker, 1352 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 1: the administration immediately said that they would tap the Strategic 1353 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Petroleum Reserve if necessary. Consistently, Trump used the bully pulpit 1354 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: of his Twitter account to pressure and warn Opek that 1355 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: he would take drastic measures to keep the price of 1356 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 1: gas as low as humanly possible. Why is Joe Biden 1357 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 1: not doing any of that? You know, I think coronavirus 1358 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: qualifies as a national crisis. Can you think of another 1359 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 1: instance that might make the most sense in order to 1360 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, both as assigned to OPEK 1361 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: that we are willing to take drastic action if they 1362 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: won't step up, and as a signal to all Americans 1363 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: that the government understands what they're going through. Obama tapped 1364 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,679 Speaker 1: the SPR in twenty eleven after we took down Goadafi. Okay, 1365 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 1: this is way worse than that. Or extrapolate this to 1366 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: the supply chain crisis that we have right now. The 1367 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: administration is fully within its authority to mobilize the National 1368 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: Guard and get back to work in clearing up backlogs 1369 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 1: at ports, adding to the supply of truckers, and expediting 1370 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: the most screwed up parts of the supply chain. Or 1371 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 1: how about this, last time I checked, we have a 1372 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: trillion dollar blue water Navy. The entire purpose of a 1373 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: navy is to guarantee the supremacy of American commerce on 1374 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: the high seas, and right now it seems like a 1375 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: time to answer the call of duty, Department of the Navy, 1376 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 1: throwing the National Guard, the Navy at the supply chain crisis, 1377 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: tapping the SPR, giving a speech daily or even weekly 1378 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: about the price of gas would help Joe Biden and 1379 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the American people probably more than what's in this infrastructure bill. 1380 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: And yet we barely hear from the President himself. When 1381 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: we do, it's less than inspiring, to say the least. 1382 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that would even be okay if he had good deputies. 1383 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 1: If what we saw, though, was that main deputy in 1384 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: that interview. Nobody in the higher echelons of the government 1385 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 1: seems to care or even want to do anything at 1386 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 1: all to fix the most pressing problems of Americans' lives. 1387 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: They are going to pay big time for it. Americans 1388 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: right now have a lot of cash on hand, they 1389 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of savings. But they hate the economy 1390 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 1: right now. A reason is simple. Things are not working 1391 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: the way they're supposed to. Sixty nine percent of people 1392 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: in the latest Gallup poll said the economy is getting 1393 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: worse and they are not crazy. Look at the price 1394 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: of gas or the price of food, and they want 1395 01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the government to do something about it. And while practice, 1396 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: there is certainly a limit to how much you can do, 1397 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: how about the Biden administration approach that limit first before 1398 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: they start plowing us with excuses. Until then, they are 1399 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: going to continue to lose bigger than they probably ever 1400 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: have before, and honestly, they completely deserve it. It really 1401 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: is just, you know, an alternative universe in my head, Crystal, 1402 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: but I can't get over it. I mean, you were 1403 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 1: talking about whenever you're talking to your joining us. Now 1404 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: we have Kyle con Dick. He is managing editor at 1405 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: Sabatoe's Crystal Ball at EVA Center for Politics, and also 1406 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: author of a highly relevant book titled The Long Red Thread, 1407 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: How Democratic dominance gave way to Republican advantage in US 1408 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,840 Speaker 1: House elections. Great to see again, Kyle. Good to see Kayle. 1409 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right, so you were pretty 1410 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 1: pruscient in terms of the Virginia election. You and your 1411 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 1: colleagues moved the race to lean Republican shortly before Republican 1412 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 1: Glen Young can actually prove the polls right for once 1413 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: and won by a narrow margin. And what is your 1414 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: view overall of what happened here in the state of 1415 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Virginia and Franklin State, New Jersey and other places as well. 1416 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 1: And I think if you take Virginia and New Jersey together, 1417 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 1: it's interesting that when it's all said and done. Phil 1418 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Murphy's margin of victory is moving up. It's about two 1419 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 1: and a half three points. It looks like lenn Yunkin 1420 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: won by about two points. And if you go back 1421 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen, you saw basically a roughly eleven point 1422 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: shift from twenty seventeen in both Virginia and New Jersey 1423 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: towards the Republicans. And it's interesting that it was almost 1424 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 1: exactly the same when it was all said and done 1425 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: in both states, which I think was reflective of just 1426 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: what kind of environment we're in, which is that it's 1427 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: a Republican leaning environment. And I think we saw really 1428 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: great Republican turnout in both states, not necessarily bad Democratic 1429 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 1: turnout at least in Virginia. I mean, overall turnout was 1430 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: very high in Virginia, but I think the combination of 1431 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Republicans being aggrieved and showing up in big numbers, and also, 1432 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: you know, the Republican candidates like making some gains amongst 1433 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 1: swing voters. You know, that's how you see such a 1434 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: big change from you know, from four years ago and 1435 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: even from a year ago. Obviously, both these states voted 1436 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, voted Democratic for president very comfortably last year, 1437 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I think we were sort of waiting 1438 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: to see, like what, you know, what the environment actually is. 1439 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, is Biden's approval rating actually that bad for Democrats? 1440 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,600 Speaker 1: Are Republican's still enthusiastic about voting even after you know, 1441 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 1: Donald Trump sort of you know, made up all this 1442 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 1: stuff about the twenty twenty elections integrity and whatnot. And 1443 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, again, the answers we get to these questions, 1444 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're good ones for Republicans. Yeah, you know, 1445 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. There's been a lot of takes kind of 1446 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 1: on both sides here, Kyle blaming critical race theory, wokeness 1447 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and more. I think James Carville, we have something on that. 1448 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. I want to get your reaction 1449 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 1: to this national discussion. Let's take a listen looking at 1450 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: these results your party? What went wrong? But moving wrong 1451 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: was just stupid wokeness, all right? You don't just look 1452 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: at Virginia and New Jersey, look at Long Island, look 1453 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 1: at Buffalo, look at Apples, even look at saut of Washington. 1454 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 1: I mean, just defund the police, Luna shy to take 1455 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,719 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln's name off of schools. I mean that people 1456 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: see that it's interesting, Kyle, that's not just a take 1457 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,640 Speaker 1: away from the center left establishment and the media. That 1458 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 1: is also the Republican takeaway. So what do you make 1459 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: of that in the context of these elections. Well, look, 1460 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 1: I think Republicans like to wage their elections on sort 1461 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: of cultural grounds, and they particularly like it when Democrats 1462 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 1: are easy to tie to. I don't know, I guess 1463 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: the best way to put it is maybe the academic left. 1464 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 1: And I think that with some with some of these 1465 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: things that you know, the attacks of Republicans have made 1466 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:43,480 Speaker 1: against Democrats, and you know, again it's kind of murky territory. 1467 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: But but I think Republicans arevery comfortable with this, and 1468 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: I think that that you could argue that that those 1469 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: attacks are effective, and in fact, you know, after the 1470 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, you know, the Democrats obviously they won 1471 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the presidency, they won control of both chambers eventually after 1472 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,000 Speaker 1: the Georgia Senate runoffs, but even Biden was you know, 1473 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 1: reportedly complaining about you know, his party getting pigeonholed on 1474 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: this defund the police rhetoric, which I think you could 1475 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: sort of put in the same bucket as some of 1476 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: these other uh uh you know, kind of cultural uh 1477 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: attacks that Republicans make against Democrats. And there are a 1478 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of Democrats, I think, who feel like the Republicans 1479 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: have drawn blood on some of these things. And you 1480 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 1: know it's not for you know, it's easy for Democrats 1481 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 1: to sort of complain and say, oh, well, we'll being 1482 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 1: mischaracterized and this and that. But you know, as a party, 1483 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,639 Speaker 1: you have to figure out ways to fight back against 1484 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: it and to disassociate yourself from from positions and rhetoric 1485 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 1: that maybe you feel is politically damaging and the other 1486 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 1: side fields is politically damaging and is a good attack 1487 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: to make, And I don't think Democrats have quite figured 1488 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 1: it out on these particular topics. Yeah. So, Kyle, given 1489 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 1: that we now have some answers about just how bad 1490 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 1: the national environment is for Democrats, what does that mean 1491 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to the midterm elections? Because when we had 1492 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: you on for the Virginia election, you laid on the 1493 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 1: case that Virginia can be a pretty effective bell weather 1494 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: of where the nation is ultimately headed. So what is 1495 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: your assessment there? Well, look, I mean I think that 1496 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 1: if the environment is you know, looks in next year 1497 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 1: the way it did last Tuesday. You know, I think 1498 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are probably going to lose the House and the Senate. 1499 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, one thing we did at our Crystal bal 1500 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 1: news letter was right after the Virginia election that sort 1501 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: of again to us, sort of confirmed that indeed, the 1502 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: environment is pretty bad for Democrats. We moved some of 1503 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 1: the US Senate races towards the Republicans. We had to 1504 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,720 Speaker 1: raid as Leans, Democratic, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada. We moved all 1505 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 1: those races to toss up. You know, it's the House 1506 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 1: situation I think is murky, just because we're in the 1507 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 1: midst of the redistricting process and so we don't know 1508 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,640 Speaker 1: what the lines are going to look like. In a 1509 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 1: lot of places. We're getting a sense of it. Some 1510 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 1: big states have finalized their lines in Illinois, Texas, North Carolina, 1511 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 1: though of course there very well could be litigation in 1512 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: some of these places. But you know, redistricting is important. 1513 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: But if we're in an environment where you know, Republicans 1514 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: are leading the House generic ballot polling by several points, 1515 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,720 Speaker 1: that's the sort of environment where Republicans are going to 1516 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: pick up a lot of House seats, no matter necessarily 1517 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: how the districts are redrawn, and you know, the there 1518 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 1: are a lot of governorships on the ballot next year too. 1519 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: The Democrats made big games four years ago, but you 1520 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 1: could see a lot of the Democratic governorships being in 1521 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:27,640 Speaker 1: jeopardy to places like Michigan, Wisconsin, Kansas, et cetera. So, 1522 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, this was a this was kind of a 1523 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, the check engine light came on for the 1524 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: for the Democrats on their road to twenty twenty two. 1525 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I guess there's time for things to change. But you know, 1526 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,679 Speaker 1: also the history generally suggests that the president's party struggles 1527 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 1: in the midterm, and that's that's exacerbated if the president 1528 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 1: is unpopular, as this president is. And so, Kyle, what 1529 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 1: do we also think in terms of the Senate? So 1530 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,640 Speaker 1: where the particular Senate seats that might be you know, 1531 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: most vulnerable specifically in this type of election. Are we 1532 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: looking at Arizona? Where else are we looking? Yeah? So 1533 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: there's kind of like a kind of a universally agreed 1534 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 1: upon kind of big seven of Senate races. The Republicans 1535 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,680 Speaker 1: are defending three. They have an open seat in Pennsylvania 1536 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: and open seat in North Carolina. And Ron Johnson may 1537 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,120 Speaker 1: or may not run in Wisconsin, and then the Democrats 1538 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 1: are defending Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and then also New Hampshire. 1539 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,799 Speaker 1: You know, all of those states are really competitive for president, 1540 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 1: with the exception of New Hampshire where I was really 1541 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,759 Speaker 1: close in twenty sixteen, but Joe Biden won a bigger 1542 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: victory in twenty twenty. But Republicans also may have basically 1543 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 1: their best Senate recruit in that state. Got Republican Governor 1544 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Chris Nunu appears likely to launch his challenge to Democratic 1545 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Senator Maggie Hassen. It really could be any day now, 1546 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,680 Speaker 1: which but we're waiting on that to sort of, you know, 1547 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 1: officially make that race toss up in our own ratings. 1548 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 1: So those are the ones to watch. But in a 1549 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: bad environment for Democrats, you know, all four of those 1550 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 1: seats that they're defending are very much at risk. And 1551 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's say hypothetically the the Republicans were to 1552 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 1: net for Senate seats this time and go to fifty 1553 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: four to forty six, well that could set them up 1554 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,639 Speaker 1: for the Senate for a little while. Because next next 1555 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 1: cycle twenty twenty four, the Democrats, their most vulnerable members 1556 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 1: are on the ballot, Shared Brown and Ohio, John Tester 1557 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: in West Virginia, in Montana, and Joe Mansion in West Virginia. 1558 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,599 Speaker 1: And so it's a bad map for Democrats at twenty 1559 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: twenty four too. So it's really important for Democrats to 1560 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: figure out a way to hold the line here in 1561 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. And again, the environment is just not good. 1562 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,360 Speaker 1: And we could talk all you can talk all day 1563 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: about the problems that the Republicans are having with some 1564 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: of their candidate recruitment and some of these some of 1565 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: these states unproven candidates, candidates with domestic violence history or accusations, 1566 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. But at the end of the day, if 1567 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,479 Speaker 1: the environment's bad, a lot of those things don't mean 1568 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,559 Speaker 1: as much as they otherwise might. I mean, when you 1569 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: add the results from Virginia and New Jersey together, there's 1570 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,719 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion at certain local issues in Virginia 1571 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: with course schools and CRT. But this really looks like 1572 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 1: a national wave, and I think to your point, it 1573 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: was also incredibly predictable, you know, just even taking away 1574 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic and how Americans feel about the country and 1575 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Bind's approval rating. Just looking at the history you know 1576 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 1: that you're very likely to have this backlash effect. You 1577 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 1: know what the map looks like for Democrats, and so 1578 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 1: they should have understood if they didn't, what a tough 1579 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: landscape they were ultimately facing. Kyle, Luckily, you to tell 1580 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: us a little bit about your book here the long 1581 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,560 Speaker 1: red thread. What is the thesis of the book and 1582 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: why did you want to write it? Yeah, so the 1583 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: book came out of a master's thesis I wrote at 1584 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,559 Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins a few years ago. I finished up my 1585 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 1: degree there and I wanted to explore I've analyzed and 1586 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: I've written about House elections for more than a decade, 1587 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to, you know, use my getting my 1588 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: masters in order to you know, explore this topic more. 1589 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 1: And so the book is essentially it's a history of 1590 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 1: US House elections since the early sixties. And I started 1591 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: in the early sixties because that was the time of 1592 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 1: some landmark Supreme Court decisions that enshrine the concept of 1593 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 1: one person, one vote into law. And so prior to 1594 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,320 Speaker 1: those decisions, you know, house districts within states, some of 1595 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 1: them had four times more people than Some districts had 1596 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 1: four times more people than another district in the state. 1597 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 1: So that's I thought that was sort of a good 1598 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 1: starting point for kind of modern redistricting. And it also 1599 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: starts in nineteen sixty four with the Democrats at the 1600 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 1: height of their power. They also have almost three hundred 1601 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 1: US House seats. Linda Johnson has been reelected, and so 1602 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 1: it sort of charts how the Democrats went from you know, 1603 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: holding the being essentially a permanent majority in the House 1604 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: for much of the back half of the twentieth century 1605 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety four when Republicans took control, and then 1606 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,640 Speaker 1: Republicans have more often held the House since then. So 1607 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 1: it gets into all these kind of big concepts like 1608 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:48,639 Speaker 1: redistricting and political realignment and the nationalization of elections that 1609 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I think have all combined together to give Republicans more 1610 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 1: advantages in the race for US House majorities than Democrats have. Well, 1611 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,640 Speaker 1: very relevant, I think to a lot of what we 1612 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,360 Speaker 1: discussed here on the show. Topics we explore here lot, 1613 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 1: and guys, I really recommend you go on and get 1614 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 1: Kyle's book. We've been talking to you for a long 1615 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,520 Speaker 1: time now. You are almost always right on with your analysis, 1616 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,479 Speaker 1: that's right and your predictions. So certainly one of the 1617 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 1: voices we turned to the most when it comes to 1618 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: election analysis, we rely on your lot, Kyle. Thank you, Kyle, 1619 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Man. Thanks for having me our pleasure. 1620 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching Crystal. We're so 1621 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 1: happy that you're back. Really appreciate me. You guys. Yeah, 1622 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,680 Speaker 1: I know it's not one of those good situations, but 1623 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,639 Speaker 1: everything has worked out. We really appreciate your guys' support. 1624 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, we've got big plans, as you guys 1625 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,480 Speaker 1: can see here with the cameras and more other expansions 1626 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 1: and cool things that you're going to be hearing about soon. 1627 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,600 Speaker 1: But to do that, we need your support. There's a 1628 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: premium subscription down there in the link. You get the 1629 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: show an hour early, all the benefits, but really what 1630 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 1: you do is you support our work here and the 1631 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 1: big plans that we have. So we thank you all 1632 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: very very much. We're cooking have some good stuff guys 1633 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: that I think you're going to be excited about. That 1634 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 1: we're certainly excited about, so stay tuned for all of that. 1635 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Is great to be back, and I will be back 1636 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow as well as Will Sager for a full shime show. 1637 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:00,880 Speaker 1: We will see you then.