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Speaker 1: Welcomit, everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show, coming to you live from ny See.

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Speaker 1: You're here in New York City. Clay has quite about

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. Indeed, if mister Stephen A Smith, they are

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Speaker 1: going to be having a debate, and as we know,

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Speaker 1: we will not step back from debates these days.

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Speaker 2: We will not.

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Speaker 1: In any way, in any way seed the fields to

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Speaker 1: the other side, although I think you guys are going

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Speaker 1: to have a pretty cordial but feisty exchange. But we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of news to dive into here, and

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Speaker 1: we've got updates. Well. First of all, Trump is leaving

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Speaker 1: for the UK, so we've got some sound from the

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Speaker 1: President himself on a whole range of things Ukraine, talking

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Speaker 1: about Pam Bondy, a deal on TikTok, which I am

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Speaker 1: excited about. I have been the only I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say this, I'm the only consistent conservative I think on

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Speaker 1: TikTok the last few years where I'm just like, I

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Speaker 1: like it. We shouldn't get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes it. Now all of a sudden, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: Trump likes it. Everybody likes it because there's ways to

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Speaker 1: make it not now. I know you were saying all along, well,

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Speaker 1: as long as it's not a Chinese controlled spying operation,

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Speaker 1: then you like it too. But I've just been waiting

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Speaker 1: for this moment when there's a deal on TikTok. It

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Speaker 1: looks like there is. Trump also spoke on Gaza JD

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Speaker 1: Vance with some incredibly powerful comments about the people calling

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Speaker 1: for unity right now with the radical left. I think JD.

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Speaker 1: He was guest hosting Charlie Kirks Show yesterday. I think

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Speaker 1: JD absolutely nailed it. He's a very impressive guy, a

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Speaker 1: very eloquent speaker in his own right. And so we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that more on the Memphis crime crackdown that

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Speaker 1: may be coming, and then perhaps Clay because we're in

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Speaker 1: New York City. The New York City mayor race, which

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Speaker 1: I'm sad for our New York City based staff because

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Speaker 1: it is my belief that the mayor is going to

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Speaker 1: at this point, which is pretty stunning, pretty outrageous. But

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Speaker 1: let's dive into a few things here. You know, I

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Speaker 1: actually want to start with this. So this is kind

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Speaker 1: of a longer clip because I wanted you to hear

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. But jd Vance when he was guest

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Speaker 1: hosting the Charlie Kirk program yesterday, jd Vance talking about

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Speaker 1: this because here's what I think is very frustrating for me,

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Speaker 1: for you, Clay, for a lot of people. Right now.

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Speaker 1: You had Charlie who was doing debate, discussion, created a

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Speaker 1: marketplace of ideas, a forum for ideas, and he was assassinated.

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Speaker 1: And now you have all these people who are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we just need a marketplace of ideas or you know,

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Speaker 1: we just need to tone things down and get into exchange. Well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, we were doing that. It's the

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Speaker 1: other side that was not doing that is not willing

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Speaker 1: to do it. Even still, here is jd Vance. This

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Speaker 1: has cut nine with something I just think you all

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Speaker 1: really need to hear.

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Speaker 4: There is no unity with people who scream at children

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Speaker 4: over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone

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Speaker 4: who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to

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Speaker 4: excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who

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Speaker 4: harasses an innocent family the day after the father of

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Speaker 4: that family lost a dear friend.

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Speaker 5: There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie

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Speaker 5: Kirk's assassination, and there is no unity with the people

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Speaker 5: who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these

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Speaker 5: terrorist sympathizers, who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband

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Speaker 5: and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he

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Speaker 5: spoke words with which they disagree. Did you know that

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Speaker 5: the George Soros Open Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation,

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Speaker 5: the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death?

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Speaker 5: Do you know they benefit from generous treatment? They are

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Speaker 5: literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer.

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Speaker 4: And how do they reward us by setting fire to

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Speaker 4: the house built by the American family over two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty years. I'm desperate for our country to be

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Speaker 4: united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that

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Speaker 4: will tell you a difficult truth. We can only have

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Speaker 4: and when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote

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Speaker 1: I think Clay he absolutely nails it, but also that

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Speaker 1: both sides ism has switched from both sides to political

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Speaker 1: violence to both sides need to calm down and look

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Speaker 1: for a unity. No, it's this both sides thing is

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Speaker 2: I just can't get past the fact that we have

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Speaker 2: this assassination. There's always going to be crazy people, There's

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Speaker 2: always going to be lunatics. But the idea that huge

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Speaker 2: portions of the Democrat base have taken to social media

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Speaker 2: have exalted across the entire internet in this assassination I

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Speaker 2: mentioned last week. I bet almost every single one of

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Speaker 2: who if you go on Facebook, you have seen somebody

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Speaker 2: and kind of been in disbelief that it could be happening.

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Speaker 2: And that's the part Buck that I can't get over,

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Speaker 2: I just, I mean, just play along with me on this.

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Speaker 2: In this world, if Barack Obama had had an year

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Speaker 2: if a month later somebody else had tried to kill him,

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Speaker 2: and then in the same roughly year period fourteen months,

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Speaker 2: the one of the top advocates for Barack Obama had

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Speaker 2: been assassinated at a free speech event. Is there any

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Speaker 2: way at all that the left would be saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we need for everybody to tone down the political violence.

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Speaker 2: And then you toss in all of the Blue Sky celebrations,

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Speaker 2: all of the Twitter celebrations. They are banning people on

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Speaker 2: Reddit for condemning the assassination. Let me repeat that, on

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Speaker 2: some of these forums that are moderated on Reddit, they

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Speaker 2: are actually banning posters who are condemning the assassination. Remember

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Speaker 2: what happened after January sixth. They wouldn't let Trump have

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Speaker 2: an Etsy account or have a What's the Thing where

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Speaker 2: they do like the poster boards and Pinterest. They would

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Speaker 2: They banned him on every every social media platform. They

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Speaker 2: all the big ones. Many of you out there they

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Speaker 2: restricted as well. I don't believe in free speech restrictions,

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Speaker 2: but just look at how the left responded to jan

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Speaker 2: six condemning wholeheartedly huge swaths of America as violent extremists.

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Speaker 2: And now after they engage in violent extremism, the topic is, oh,

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Speaker 2: we got to tone down the violence. Well, actually, why

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Speaker 2: don't you address your own house and the fact that

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Speaker 2: this is the logical consequence of calling a man Hitler

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Speaker 2: and all of his supporters Nazis. For a decade, this

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Speaker 2: guy wrote anti Nazi slogans, anti fascist slogans, pro trans

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Speaker 2: slogans on the bullets that he used to kill Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 2: have a mutuality of violence issues here. The left is

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. No one out there is calling mom

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Speaker 2: or any of the leaders of the Democrat Party morons. Yes,

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Speaker 2: bad faith arguers, Yes, but that is focused on what

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Speaker 2: they're saying, not them as individuals. When you say that

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Speaker 2: someone is a violent extremist threat, you can't then say,

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Speaker 2: but we condemn the acts that are done to undertake

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Speaker 2: to try to remove a violent extremist. This is this

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they've been making the case, the Democrats have

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Speaker 1: been making the case for years now that Trump, trump Ism,

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Speaker 1: MAGA are clear and present danger to the republic, are

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Speaker 1: the end of democracy? The you know, the jokes that

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Speaker 1: I think that finally, what we've seen is, you know,

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Speaker 1: response to what happened to our friend, to the assassination

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Speaker 1: of our friend Charlie Kirk. They are seeing this and

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Speaker 1: coming away with the conclusion, you know, if you're a

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Speaker 1: with the left in this country, and the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: After Trump was nearly killed, we came on this show

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Speaker 2: Trump is hitler, Trump is a fascist. Democracy is going

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Speaker 2: to end if Trump is elected president. There's not going

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Speaker 2: to be an election in twenty twenty sixth. There's not

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Speaker 2: went right back to the same arguments they were making

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Speaker 2: that I believe motivated the assassination attempts. My concern is

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Speaker 2: now that Charlie Kirk has actually been assassinated. Instead of

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Speaker 2: dialing the temperature down, I think the temperature has gotten

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Speaker 1: Are people there are streamers, you know, there's this whole

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Speaker 1: world of Internet activity that quite honestly is like people

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Speaker 2: We understand the Internet. We're not old guys that are like,

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Speaker 1: Right exactly? You know, We're not running around with our

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Speaker 1: Aol emails just kidding some of you.

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Speaker 1: still cool. But the there are corners of the Internet

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Speaker 1: to me as well, Clay, that during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: we recall there was the disinformation Czar positions try that

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Speaker 1: they and that they used Nina Jankowitz. Was that her name, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Soviet Mary Poppins, Yeah, I remember, Yeah, the efforts to

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Speaker 1: shut down disfavored speech. You mentioned what they did to Trump.

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Speaker 1: I mean they did this to an actual president. They

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Speaker 1: kicked him off of Stey.

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Speaker 2: He was in office, they would not allow him to communicate.

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Speaker 1: So I also think that there is a there's not

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Speaker 1: to my rules. That's roughly the quote, and that's really

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Speaker 1: the way that the Democrats operate with all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's when they can get away with it, they censor,

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Speaker 1: they shut you down, they do all of this. But

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Speaker 1: when they've reached a point where they've gone way too

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Speaker 1: it's on all sides, and we need to just turn

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Speaker 1: down the temperature. And oh my gosh, you're censoring people.

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Speaker 1: I mean censoring people here, JD. This is fourteen. JD

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Speaker 1: went straight up said people celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder should

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Speaker 2: Deserved nine to eleven. Dude, what.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I think that Pam Bondi has done

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Speaker 6: an unbelievable job and everybody agrees with that. And Cash,

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Speaker 6: you know, if you look at take a look at

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Speaker 6: what he did with respect to this horrible person that

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Speaker 6: he just captured. He did it in two days. It

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Speaker 6: took other similar cases four days, five days, four years.

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Speaker 6: If you look at certain shooters. Now, I have confidence

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Speaker 6: that everybody in the administration, my administration, and a lot

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Speaker 6: of people are saying it, that's just me. It's so

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Speaker 6: far the best administration ever formed.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: So the people who are saying that Patel is about

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Speaker 1: to director Patel is about to get the boot, including

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Speaker 1: I think Corey Booker said that he said Trump's gonna

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Speaker 1: leave you high and dry, or He's going to, you know,

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Speaker 1: kick you to the curve, something like that. Trump is

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Speaker 1: standing with his people and not backing down at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of that criticism came out because,

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Speaker 2: to be fair, Cash tried to be overly informative on

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Speaker 2: social media about the people who were being taken into custody.

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Speaker 2: And there were two people, if I remember correctly, Buck

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Speaker 2: that were taken into custody that at least the way

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Speaker 2: that it was released was hey, we think we have

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Speaker 2: the shooter, and neither of those individuals were in fact

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Speaker 2: the shooter, and both were released. Now obviously they have

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Speaker 2: the shooter in custody. I think if Cash Patel could

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Speaker 2: go back, he would say, Hey, I wish I'd been

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Speaker 2: a little bit slower in the way that I posted

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Speaker 2: about some of these arrests. But I think his goal

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Speaker 2: was as the FBI director, to over communicate with people

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Speaker 2: so it didn't look like we were hiding the ball

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Speaker 2: or to allow conspiracies to take root, and so I

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Speaker 2: think that was the intent.

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Speaker 1: I can also point to previous instances where the FBI

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Speaker 1: was delaying and it looked like delaying so that they

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Speaker 1: could politicize. It looked like they weren't releasing I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about under this Trump administration, but you can go

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Speaker 1: back and think about, for example of Clay. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember the Pulse nightclub shooting under the

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Obama administration.

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Speaker 2: This is going back quite a way.

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Speaker 1: Is the FBI released a transcript that the shooter who

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Speaker 1: had called in because he wanted everyone to know, and

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Speaker 1: he was saying things like I'm doing this for Allah,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this for isis like very straightforward. The FBI

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Speaker 1: unilaterally decided to block stuff black stuff in the transcript,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was preposterous because we all could

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Speaker 1: play the fill in the blank game. We knew what

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Speaker 1: he was saying, right, we understood what was going on.

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Speaker 1: And there have been other cases as well where I

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Speaker 1: think the FBI was very Look, I'm the one that

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of a lot of you listening

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Speaker 1: are screaming about, is all the Russia collusion stuff instead

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Speaker 1: of being transparent and letting people know when they knew

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Speaker 1: or you know. The problem with that was they were

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Speaker 1: all I mean not they were all, but the FBI

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Speaker 1: was in on that whole scam. So there was just

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Speaker 1: a lack of faith. So I think the efforts at transparency,

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Speaker 1: putting information out sooner, that comes from a good place

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Speaker 1: for director Patel. But there were some missteps, perhaps in

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Speaker 1: the way the information was shared, because for example, we

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Speaker 1: all thought that they had the guy in custody and

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Speaker 1: they didn't, and that that probably shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think he's seeing all of the lies that

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Speaker 2: are being spread on the left about the motivations of

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Speaker 2: this shooter. Maybe at the top of the next hour

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Speaker 2: we'll dive into some more of this. There is, i believe,

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Speaker 2: right now, a calculated attempt on the left in this

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Speaker 2: country because they recognize that normal people out there are saying,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, there's a lot of people celebrating this murder,

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Speaker 2: and there is a lot of left wing violence in

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Speaker 2: the wake of the shooting at the Nashville school and

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Speaker 2: the wake of the shooting at the Minneapolis school. And

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Speaker 2: you can be a left wing malcatin, but his motivations

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Speaker 2: this shooter appears to have clearly been fueled by left

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Speaker 2: wing attacks on Charlie Kirk, on Donald Trump, on people

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Speaker 2: like you and me as Hitler and Nazis and fascists

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Speaker 2: and all of these things. And so I think they're

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Speaker 2: trying to intentionally confuse people as to where these motivations

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Speaker 2: are coming from. So I think the goal of Cash

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Speaker 2: Bettel and Dan Bongino is to try to get the

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Speaker 2: truth out.

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Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, that's absolutely what's going on. There's

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Speaker 1: an intentional effort by the media so that they can

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Speaker 1: avoid the idea iological accountability of because remember they were

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Speaker 1: they have been saying stuff CNN, The New York Times,

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, you know, the biggest Democrat aligned media outlets.

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Speaker 1: We don't really get cinteresson. We used to call them

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Speaker 1: mainstream media. We got rid of that because why do

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Speaker 1: we say their mainstream right, And then it was legacy media,

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Speaker 1: but that felt a little too exalted for them. We

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Speaker 1: don't have really a good term for I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe lib media. My point though is they have been

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Speaker 1: saying stuff Clay for years that if somebody really believed

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Speaker 1: the the gap between reading this stuff and thinking that

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Speaker 1: you need to take imminent action is far too small.

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Speaker 1: If somebody says that the president is a Nazi, the

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Speaker 1: White House is full of white supremacists, there's not going

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Speaker 1: to be another election, and they're going to be marching,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're going to be marching you off into

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Speaker 1: you know, some kind of camps because you're a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the crazy stuff that they say, fascism, They use

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Speaker 1: the term fascism all the time. The people that say that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I think, just have very little understanding

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Speaker 1: of what a fascistic society is like. One thing that's

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Speaker 1: not true in fascism is you get more famous and

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Speaker 1: more money in the media if you are bashing the

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Speaker 1: regime all the time, and that it's like a good

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Speaker 1: at least it was previously for them, a good strategy.

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Speaker 1: But I think that they the mains. This is the

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Speaker 1: big the big difference when they do the both sides

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Speaker 1: is thing the mainstream thinking among the Democrat Party when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Trump, Maga all of it is extreme

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Speaker 1: and delusional. And you can say on the right there

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Speaker 1: are people who have said nasty things here or there,

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Speaker 1: but they are fringe. They do not have they do

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Speaker 1: not have power. They are not you know in the UH.

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Speaker 1: You know, this the center of the decision making of

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Speaker 1: the conservative or the right wing movement in this country.

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Speaker 1: And that's where there's just an there's just a hugely

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Speaker 1: obvious difference, and we won't. I was talking to Clay like,

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Speaker 1: do we want to play these guys? Are not there?

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Speaker 1: These left wing streamers on Discord. So just so I'm

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Speaker 1: understand this, and now Discord is where he was having

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Speaker 1: the shooters Discord. Discord is a chat room, but it

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Speaker 1: goes simultaneously to video game playings. So my understanding, because

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Speaker 1: my boys are active is Discord. You can create group chats,

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Speaker 1: and the group chats on Discord are basically private message

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Speaker 1: boards that can be very large, or you could create

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Speaker 1: a Discord group chat for say your family and friends,

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Speaker 1: where everybody can communicate. My understanding is that he was

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Speaker 1: active in trans related Discord group chats, which some of

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Speaker 1: which can be very substantial in scope. What is different is,

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Speaker 1: again this is me trying to dive into the Internet

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Speaker 1: here and explain differences. Reddit is basically an online message

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Speaker 1: board where everybody can see what is posted, and there

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Speaker 1: are all these different like this is like a private

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Speaker 1: I think, I think I might be thinking of it.

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Speaker 2: Twitch, Yeah, you're thinking of Twitch, which is a video

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Speaker 2: streaming service that largely is featuring people playing video games.

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Speaker 1: So people watch. This is amazing because I actually, during

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Speaker 1: co I admit this, I started playing some video games.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Call of Duty. I like, but

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Speaker 1: the idea that I would sit there and watch somebody

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Speaker 1: else play video games is It's just that makes no

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Speaker 1: sense to me at all.

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Speaker 2: But this is a big Oh.

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Speaker 1: The communities that do this are huge online.

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Speaker 2: My boys love to watch video games be played. Now.

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Speaker 2: They would say, this is how you learn how to

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Speaker 2: do things on the games because these guys are super skilled,

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Speaker 2: whether it's at playing Madden FIFA or Roadblocks and Fortnite

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Speaker 2: and all these different things. And I asked my boys

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Speaker 2: about that, and they said, well, Dad, you watch a

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Speaker 2: lot of sports, and that's just other people playing sports.

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Speaker 2: Why is it weird to watch people play video games?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, so interesting argument you

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Speaker 2: and ieneration we didn't have the ability to watch other

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Speaker 2: people play video games. This is actually an outgrowth. The

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Speaker 2: thing that was crazy to me that they would watch

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Speaker 2: is other kids opening presence. But this is clearly this

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Speaker 2: is their generation.

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Speaker 1: The hard left of gen Z. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: where they're on Discord and this Twitch thing, and they

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Speaker 1: have people that are have become very prominent with large

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Speaker 1: followings who are really bad dudes, and they're in this

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Speaker 1: part of the internet, like Clay and I've never been

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Speaker 1: on Twitch. I've never been on Discord, I you know,

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Speaker 1: and I barely have ever heard the same for me,

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Speaker 1: I've ever used Reddit. I've had to come up and search.

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Speaker 1: But these other things, this is this is a place

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Speaker 1: where radicalism of the left is thrive, is thriving on

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Speaker 1: the Internet. And that's really what I think is.

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Speaker 2: Reddit is maybe the furthest left wing of all of

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Speaker 2: the social media sites on the Internet. And you might say, well,

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Speaker 2: why do I care? Reddit is one of the top

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Speaker 2: sources now for AI information. That sounds scary, but if

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Speaker 2: an algorithm is only as good, and AI is only

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Speaker 2: is a toxic place when it comes to left wing

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Speaker 1: Dark Roast. Remember, ten percent of the prophets goes to

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Speaker 1: the Hunt the Towers Foundation. We still got some copies left.

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Speaker 1: Laara Travis wants all signed copies of American Playbook out

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Speaker 1: of her house and into your home's correct use code book. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't want Laura to be unhappy. Use Code Book

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Speaker 1: and you can get a signed copy Clay's book. New

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Speaker 1: book comes out in November. Mine comes out in January.

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Speaker 1: Will be doing more book deals and stuff for subscribers.

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Speaker 2: Don't drink that.

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Speaker 1: Communists will And we'll come back here and dive. We

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Speaker 1: know we've got some great calls we want to take

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Speaker 1: and also some updates on the investigation where it stands

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Speaker 1: into the Charlie Kirk assassination, and we'll take some talkbacks

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Speaker 1: and what else we got Clay, Oh, in Memphis, the

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Speaker 1: crime Craft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the crime card down in Memphis. I love this move.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that and more