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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, November tenth, and a new war is

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Speaker 2: brewing online between the Department of Homeland Security and Olivia Rodrigo.

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Speaker 3: What the actual hell you told me about this story?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Why are these two even aware of each other? What

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Speaker 2: This is a really interesting war of words that has escalated.

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Speaker 2: Rodrigo's fans are involved. And I couldn't I actually couldn't

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Speaker 2: get enough of this story because it has legs. This

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Speaker 2: is not the first and it won't be the last

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Speaker 2: musician to be upset with the Trump administration. We'll explain.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was the Department of Homeland Security put

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Speaker 2: up an Instagram post and it was a promotional clip

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Speaker 2: for ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and it shows agents

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Speaker 2: pursuing and handcuffing people.

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Speaker 1: With an overlaid message.

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Speaker 2: That says, if ICE find you, okay, wow, okay. Then

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Speaker 2: it shows people voluntarily boarding buses and planes alongside the

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Speaker 2: caption if you self.

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Speaker 4: Deport okay then emotional video.

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Speaker 2: The post caption reads this leave now in all caps

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Speaker 2: you will face the consequences Okay, underneath this promotional video

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Speaker 2: is Olivia Rodrigo's song All American Bitch, and the lyrics

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Speaker 2: are all the time, I'm grateful all the time, I'm

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Speaker 2: sexy and I'm kind, I'm pretty when I cry relate.

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Speaker 2: I don't know all American Bitch. They used her song

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Speaker 2: in this video.

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Speaker 4: Did you listen playing? Does it fit?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't really match for me. I don't really understand

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Speaker 2: why they used it. But here's the amazing thing. So obviously,

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Speaker 2: at some point Olivia Rodrigo realizes they're using her song

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Speaker 2: to promote ice, so she goes onto the Instagram page

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Speaker 2: and writes a comment in the Instagram and says, don't

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Speaker 2: ever use my songs to promote your racist, hateful propaganda.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm all in now, please tell me more about this.

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Speaker 2: Well, first, i'll tell you starting on Sunday, so Rodrigo's

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Speaker 2: comment was no longer available under the post. They literally

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Speaker 2: took her comment off. Okay, and then, but here's my

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Speaker 2: favorite part. Rodrigo fans saw that and decided to flood

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security Instagram post repeating her comment.

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Speaker 2: So you'll if you go on there right now, you'll

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Speaker 2: see it. There's a ton of Rodrigo fans. I'll give

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Speaker 2: you a few examples. Since y'all deleted Olivia Rodrigo's comment,

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Speaker 2: I will quote her in my comment, don't ever use

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Speaker 2: my songs to promote your racist, hateful propaganda. Another comment

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Speaker 2: said that the fact you deleted Olivia's comment, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: This is the land of free speech, right that as.

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Speaker 4: Soon as you said, they deleted.

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Speaker 3: How many times has that argument been made that you're

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Speaker 3: trying to keep speech down from conservatives or whoever else,

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Speaker 3: And it's got it's escalt, even to the point of violence,

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Speaker 3: that you're trying to silence somebody. One comment from one

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Speaker 3: pop singer.

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Speaker 2: Too much for us, get it off, took it down

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Speaker 2: now when you go onto the Instagram page. However, what

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Speaker 2: she wrote worked because it says this song is no

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Speaker 2: longer available, so you can't hear it anymore. They did

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Speaker 2: take the song down after she wrote that.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell if they did it or was it

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Speaker 3: a violation? Then Instagram was like, you are they unclear?

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Speaker 2: Don't know how or who took it down, but it

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Speaker 2: is the song. It says this song is no longer available.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's more to the story. Department of Homeland Security did

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Speaker 2: not take this all in quietly. They actually released a

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Speaker 2: statement scolding Olivia Rodrigo. I will quote them, America is

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Speaker 2: grateful all the time for our federal law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: who keep us safe. We suggest Miss Rodrigo thank them

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Speaker 2: for their service, not little their sacrifice.

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Speaker 4: What was her statement again?

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Speaker 2: Her statement was, don't ever use my songs to promote

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Speaker 4: H Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of DHS's decision then to publicly

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Speaker 2: scold Olivia Rodrigo?

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Speaker 3: They have It's a big department that has very serious

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Speaker 3: just it seems small. It just seems it makes the

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Speaker 3: department itself seem small that you're going after this young

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying she's responsible, but someone could have

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Speaker 3: had a different tone in how they engage. These are

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Speaker 3: two people who two sides at least don't agree on something.

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Speaker 3: She has fans, Homeland Security has fans. I just if

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Speaker 3: there was a way to have a different conversation with

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Speaker 3: moments like this come up, instead of just fighting as

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Speaker 4: I hate this.

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Speaker 1: Story exactly, and well, here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: This is so interesting because you would think the Department

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Speaker 2: of Homeland Security, or at least someone in their social

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Speaker 2: media team, would recognize that, of all people's songs to choose,

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Speaker 2: choosing Olivia Rodrigo song probably wasn't the best idea. She

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Speaker 2: has clearly and publicly and recently spoken out about our

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Speaker 2: current immigration policy. And I will quote her. She said

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Speaker 2: this in her June Instagram story. I lived in La

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Speaker 2: my whole life, and I am deeply upset about these

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Speaker 2: violent deportations of my neighbors under the current administration. LA

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Speaker 2: simply wouldn't exist without immigrants. Treating hard working community members

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Speaker 2: So here is an artist who has publicly spoken out

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Speaker 2: immigration policy, and then they use her song in their

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Speaker 2: promotional post.

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Speaker 3: You sounding like And I'm coming to this conclusion now.

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Speaker 3: This was not an accident. This was intentional trolling of

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Speaker 3: this young lady, and it usually comes at least when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the deministration the president with a purpose

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Speaker 3: he knows how to fire up the right people at

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Speaker 3: the right time to get on his side, to sometimes

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Speaker 3: distract he's being accused of. This is not an accident.

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Speaker 3: They know who this young lady is. You even speak

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Speaker 3: about the song, it doesn't really fit like there have

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Speaker 3: been some better options. Why would you use an Olivia

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Speaker 3: Rodrigo song at all? Not because you're fans of the

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Speaker 3: young lady, So there might be.

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Speaker 2: Gaslightness well, And the truth is, obviously more people are

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Speaker 2: now going to see this video because of the controversy,

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Speaker 2: because we're all talking about it. So that could be

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Speaker 2: smart on their part too, if you think, nope, there's

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Speaker 2: no such thing as bad press. They're getting more eyeballs

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Speaker 2: on their video. And here's another wrinkle in this story.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the first time the Trump administration has recently

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Speaker 2: used a Rodrigo song and got a similar response from her.

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Speaker 2: So to your point, let me go ahead and tell

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Speaker 2: you what happened. Just a short while ago, President Trump

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Speaker 2: used her deja Vu single to celebrate his return to

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Speaker 2: the White House for the second time, and she did

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Speaker 2: not hesitate to express her feelings about that. She went

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Speaker 2: he used deja vu to celebrate his victory, and that

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Speaker 2: thank you?

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Speaker 3: Do they do the artists have They do have a say,

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Speaker 3: do they not in their music being used?

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Speaker 4: They have to get permission.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So once she put that comment in that post,

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Speaker 2: they did take down, they did remove the song from

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Speaker 2: the video, and they deleted her comment. So this is

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Speaker 2: now round two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are they true, Olivia Rodrigo, This is plain

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Speaker 3: as day they have this is deja vu.

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Speaker 4: You didn't tell me this. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, folks, I'm sorry, Robe sets me up. Sometimes she'll

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Speaker 3: present a story that's great, said, oh, this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be a great talker. You're gonna love talking about this,

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Speaker 3: and all you gotta do is react. I'll handle everything.

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Speaker 3: So I am learning about this story. Now I feel

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Speaker 3: like you set me up. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your genuine reaction to this.

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Speaker 4: Obviously trolling this girl.

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Speaker 1: Because you're actually experiencing it the way I did.

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Speaker 2: I started I started looking at more stories and looking

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Speaker 2: at the history between these two and what's happened just

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Speaker 2: now seems to me that it cannot be an accident.

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Speaker 1: You've come to the same thing.

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Speaker 3: We're doing this over and over again, like there's a

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Speaker 3: new person working social media at the White House that

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Speaker 3: didn't know about that last incident.

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Speaker 4: Of course not, they know what they're doing. I'm upset

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Speaker 4: with you for taking me on this emotional journey.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling one way about it when it's clear

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Speaker 4: This is not a coincidence. They have an.

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Speaker 3: Issue with Olivia Rodrigo and they keep going after her.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know what, maybe it's not just Olivia Rodrigo.

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Speaker 2: There are This was an amazing morning for me researching

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Speaker 2: this story. There are so many other artists who are

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Speaker 2: almost all taken some sort of legal action because of

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Speaker 2: use of their music to promote President Trump and or

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Speaker 1: I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: Look, we knew that the Trump administration tended or has

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Speaker 2: of artists who have pursued legal action against the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration for using their songs. Your mind will be blown.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back as we continue our conversation about basically musicians

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Speaker 2: versus President Trump, and that's what it's kind of become

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Speaker 2: as this story surrounding Olivia Rodrigo.

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Speaker 4: This is so why don't you Okay.

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Speaker 2: And her song Okay? You remember the recent little video

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Speaker 2: administration of him getting into that fighter jet and pooping

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Speaker 2: on protesters.

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Speaker 4: Yes, of course you remember that.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the song that was.

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Speaker 4: Used, uh, danger zone?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well Kenny Logins, Kenny Loggins got upset and he denounced

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration's unauthorized use of his song in that

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Speaker 2: danger Zone.

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Speaker 1: AI.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know he got involved, but he was like,

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Speaker 2: do not use my music in your promotional video?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: So Kenny Loggins, that was just a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Turns out though Celine Dion very upset in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four he was using her song My Heart Will Go

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Speaker 2: On and I Love She wrote in no way is

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Speaker 2: this use authorized and Celine Dion does not endorse this

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Speaker 2: or any similar use and really that song, That's what

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Speaker 4: Okay, I am on fate. That was my reaction. Why

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Speaker 4: you're using the song?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Shnead O'Connor nothing compares.

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Speaker 2: To youonnor her estate because obviously she has since passed.

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Speaker 2: Had to get involved and say it is not an

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Speaker 2: exaggeration to say that Shaneade would have been disgusted, hurt

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Speaker 4: What was the song?

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Speaker 2: Nothing compares to you? So he was using that he

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Speaker 2: was this was all a part of his campaign. So

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Speaker 2: he is going out on rallies, He's using songs coming

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Speaker 3: Seen We've all seen his rallies. And what point have

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Speaker 3: you ever seen President Trump in any video, any stage

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Speaker 3: where you thought, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, my heart will go on? Nothing compares to you.

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Speaker 2: He obviously has an emotional side that I just haven't

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Speaker 1: But apparently this has all happened. Did you know this?

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Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty campaign, the prince.

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Speaker 2: The folks who are who represent Princess of state had

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get give me a second, you know,

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Speaker 4: I love prince. What possible song.

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Speaker 3: Of princes would work at a drump rally. Damn Nope,

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Speaker 3: none of that kiss is obvious. Purple rain doesn't work

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Speaker 3: when the doves cry is a little emotional. Can you

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Speaker 3: tell me what album it was?

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Speaker 2: I don't know which album it is. I know the

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Speaker 2: song and you just named it so that no, not kiss,

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Speaker 2: no purple Rain. He used it during a campaign rally

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis as he was campaigning for a president, and

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Speaker 2: he used the song a year after he already promised

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Speaker 2: the Princess state to stop using prince's works, and he

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Speaker 2: did it again, so they had to send a cease

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Speaker 2: desist order. You want, I'm going to name for you.

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Speaker 2: In the last four years, five years, how many artists

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Speaker 2: have sent cease and desist orders to Trump to stop

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Speaker 2: playing or using their music, either in rallies or in

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Speaker 4: Is it? Is it double digits?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I just want? Yes? Tom Petty Creeden's Clearwater Lay with.

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Speaker 3: Me on, Tom Petty, What's the one I've struggle with

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Speaker 3: every time you hear I hear a song I never

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Speaker 4: Is that, Tom Petty?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know that you always wonder Tom Petty, Falling,

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Speaker 2: free Falling? Yes, that is him, I actually can tell

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Speaker 2: you what song, because I actually have all the songs

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Speaker 2: that that folks were upset about. I'm trying to get

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Speaker 2: to Tom Petty. I won't back down is the one

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Speaker 2: that Trump used. I won't go back all right. The Smiths, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this song, Lincoln Park in the End,

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Speaker 2: Creeden's Clearwater Revival, Fortunate Son, I know you don't know that,

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Speaker 2: Neil Young Rocking in the Free World, and Devil's Sidewalk,

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Speaker 2: and again. All of these artists sent the president cease

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Speaker 2: and desist orders. Pharrell Happy, cannot use my song Happy,

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Speaker 2: he said. Aerosmith didn't like him using Living on the Edge,

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Speaker 2: Rolling Stones didn't like him using you can't always get

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Speaker 2: what you want.

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Speaker 1: Phil Collins.

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Speaker 2: Phil Collins had to send the administration a cease and

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Speaker 2: desist because he played in the Air tonight. YEP. Panic

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Speaker 2: at the disco did not like him using high hopes

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Speaker 2: I hope so. Rihanna was very upset that he used

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Speaker 2: don't stop the music. Wow Guns and Roses was not

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Speaker 2: okay with him, saying sweet Child of Mine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but come on, Rihanna, I cannot imagine Rihanna song

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Speaker 2: Used a Rihanna song ra em everybody hurts and losing

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Speaker 2: my religion. Michael Stipe actually spoke out and said, we

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Speaker 2: are exploring all legal avenues.

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Speaker 1: To prevent this. He did not want Elton.

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Speaker 2: John, Rocketman and Tiny Dancer, So Elton John had to

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Speaker 2: make a whole thing saying you cannot use my songs,

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Speaker 2: you cannot play them at political events, you cannot play

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Speaker 1: So yes, he did not like that.

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Speaker 2: He said, I don't want my music to be involved

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Speaker 2: in anything to do with an American election campaign. He said,

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Speaker 2: I'm British, I've met Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He was nice to me.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing personal, so he was actually very very generous

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Speaker 2: with what he said. His political views are his own.

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Speaker 2: Mine are very different. I'm not a Republican in a

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Speaker 2: million years. It was a very classy way to handle it.

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Speaker 2: But I was just surprised. I did not realize all

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Speaker 2: of these musicians who have been upset by the use

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Speaker 3: You know what, President's got a good taste of music, though.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of good songs in it, a lot

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Speaker 3: of great artists, but the Olivia. Yet, you'll give Olivia right, Rigo, break.

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Speaker 2: Yes, just why, But I do I do appreciate the

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Speaker 2: fact that her fans. I think it was very clever

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Speaker 2: that they went back and you can go look for

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Speaker 2: yourself and flooded the comments section with her comment that

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Speaker 2: they deleted. It was a pretty brilliant tactic.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, something has softened and lessened. And I

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Speaker 3: find the story funnier now knowing that they're doing it

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Speaker 3: on purpose, knowing that they've done it more than one

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Speaker 3: her fans responded. But it's not that mean, but they're

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Speaker 3: still kind of poking. I just wished a better conversation

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Speaker 3: about what that video is while we use your song

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Speaker 3: and just instead of we're just pissing each other off,

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Speaker 3: we're finding a way not to come together, but actually

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Speaker 3: to throw punches. Sometimes there's uppercuts, sometimes they're just hooks,

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Speaker 3: sometimes they're just jabs. But we're still hitting each other,

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Speaker 3: and they're hitting Olivia Rodrigo.

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Speaker 2: Why maybe we can just all take a page from

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Speaker 2: the Elton John playbook and just plain nice.

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Speaker 4: That was good. That was a good bit.

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Speaker 3: I am all right, folks, I have to deal with

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Speaker 3: this one here. I didn't like how you sent me

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Speaker 3: up emotionally. With the up and down, I got so

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Speaker 3: upset about something that wasn't really the story until you

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Speaker 3: told me the story later. All Right, folks, we always

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Speaker 3: appreciate you spend some time with us. For my dear

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Speaker 3: Aaby Robot come to you. Jay Holmes will talk to

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Speaker 3: the outreal sent