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Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The Show Me the Money edition

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Speaker 1: coming up. My broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me to

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Speaker 1: discuss the Bengals free agent signing so far and how

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Speaker 1: they might impact the Bengals approach to the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: next month. We'll hear from tight end Tyler Eifert, who

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Speaker 1: is hoping this is the year he finally catches a

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Speaker 1: break when it comes to avoiding injuries. And I'll have

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Speaker 1: a lengthy conversation with another Bengals tight end, c j

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Speaker 1: U Sama, who, if reports are accurate, is going to

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Speaker 1: go from making about seven hundred thousand dollars last year

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Speaker 1: to more than seven million dollars this year. All of

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Speaker 1: that is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder

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Speaker 1: invention since beef brisket. I had some smokey, greasy and

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Speaker 1: super tender brisket recently that was absolutely mouthwatering. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it was horribly unhealthy and Calorie Leyden. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: so what time to talk football? On Monday, the Bengals

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Speaker 1: parted ways with linebacker von Tz Berfect. On Tuesday, Tes

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Speaker 1: signed with the Oakland Raiders, where he'll be reunited with

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Speaker 1: former Bengals defensive coordinator Paul Gunther. You know who wasn't

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Speaker 1: surprised my broadcast partner Dave Lapham before the Berfect news

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Speaker 1: broke on Tuesday. We sat down for this podcast episode

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Speaker 1: and lap predicted it. His comments about Berfect come about

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Speaker 1: halfway into our twenty five minute conversation. Lap Let's start

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Speaker 1: by talking about the free agent that seemed to get

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Speaker 1: the most response from Bengals fans, and that is right

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Speaker 1: tackle Bobby Hart. The Bengals decision to bring him back

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Speaker 1: was not greeted with haraz to say the least. Explain

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Speaker 1: why you think the Bengals elected to bring Bobby back

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Speaker 1: with a three year, sixteen point one five million dollar deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds a lot different than the three year, twenty

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Speaker 1: one million dollars deal that everybody was going nuts about,

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Speaker 1: you know, at seven million dollars a year, But that's

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Speaker 1: I mean five plus million years is the cost of

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Speaker 1: doing business for what you would consider to be a

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Speaker 1: starting you know, right tackle. The thing about Bobby Hart

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Speaker 1: You know, let's let's compare a Bobby Hart. The sturgical

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Speaker 1: Sturgical way. He had to light a cherry bomb under

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Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency, there was none. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: a guy that was maybe like a little less ability.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, both are very good athletes

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Speaker 1: with He's a high energy player. The thing that uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the coach Turner is going to have to

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Speaker 1: do is is curbed the penalty issue. You know, the

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Speaker 1: false start and a lot of those false starts, you

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Speaker 1: remember quite a few of them. Bobby's trying to get

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Speaker 1: and Bobby's quick enough. Bobby's feet are good enough. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to try to cheat it, you know, he

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Speaker 1: just just play, just play football, play with your technique

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Speaker 1: and um that that's correctable. A lot of those a

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Speaker 1: little sloppy with your hands. I think when when you

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Speaker 1: I mean the penalties obviously or what have have the

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Speaker 1: football team. You just can't have, you know, one person

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Speaker 1: they make a trade, you know, for with Buffalo for

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Speaker 1: that that fan bases if we think Bobby Hart was attacked.

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Speaker 1: didn't play well. Hasn't played well. I'm telling the Patriot

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Speaker 1: it's a different day. It's a different day. And I

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Speaker 1: I think Coach Turner likes the athleticism of Bobby Hart

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Speaker 1: for Jimbo Fisher, you know at Florida State, and Coach

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Speaker 1: Turner and coach Fisher have a history and they believe

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Speaker 1: In my mind, Dan, I'm not surely consider a tackle

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Speaker 1: but it's there at fifteen. Heck, pull the trigger. But

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Speaker 1: Quentin Williams is unbelievable to watch. The kid from Alabama,

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Speaker 1: eleven Gary, I don't think any of those guys will

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Speaker 1: to me, maybe trade down to get into the third round.

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Speaker 1: give himself in better shape, He has to be more committed.

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Speaker 1: So again, you definitely with what Cleveland's doing. You don't

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Speaker 1: Worth pointing out that the Bobby Heart deal, it's a

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Speaker 1: three year deal for sixteen million plus, but essentially the

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Speaker 1: Bengals could get out after one things did not go well.

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Speaker 1: That's that's Dan why I think there's no way they

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Speaker 1: you know, if there's a run on everybody and that

425
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: you had in mind, and you don't have anybody that

426
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: you have value and eno if you can always trade down.

427
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: But man, I might be tempted to if one of

428
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: those players, the number one offensive tackle or the one

429
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: you have number one raided on your board, or one

430
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: of those linebackers are there. I may have to think

431
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: about that. I already am thinking about it. You kidding me,

432
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it for months. All right, Let's

433
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: talk about the other free agent of the Bengals signed

434
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: away from another their team. That is b W Webb,

435
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: a cornerback from the New York Giants, well traveled in

436
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: his NFL career. Bengals gave him a three year deal

437
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: for ten point five mill and but from everything we've read,

438
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: because I didn't know much about b W Webb, he's

439
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: just a guy until they moved him into the slot

440
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: corner position last year with the New York Giants, playing

441
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: for a defensive backs coach who is now going to

442
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: be as defensive coordinator in Cincinnati, and his again in

443
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus rating as a slot corner was excellent.

444
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: It was. And as you said, the familiarity Luana Rumo

445
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: is is obviously, you know, bang on the table for him.

446
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: Wanted to get him signed, particularly when Darkus Denard. You know,

447
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I was looking for ten million year or whatever he

448
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: was looking for. Some of the guys that are still

449
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: out there as free agents. There's two things, like in

450
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: the first week of free agency, when guys were expecting

451
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: to go and they don't. Number one, they've price themselves

452
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: as one possibility. Or number two, there's some sort of

453
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: a physical injury that has team scared, whether it's a

454
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: baky knee, a bad shoulder, whatever it is, or it

455
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: might be a combination of both. And I don't know

456
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: what the situation is what Dark wees I think ten

457
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: million obviously is the biggest issue. I mean, nobody gets

458
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: getting at so he's having to readjust his sights there.

459
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: But when it looked like, you know, Jesus, we're way

460
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: apart with dark wees denard, let's let's go to a

461
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: plan B. And they got somebody for a third of

462
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: what Darkques was looking for. You're going to make that

463
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: deal all day every day, and then other people sign

464
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure there's enough left on the table.

465
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: Even a dark does come down to a more agreeable

466
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: range if they if they can pull the trigger on it,

467
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: I think they'd like to. I think they like him

468
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: as a person as a football player, but it all

469
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: has to make sense in the salary cap, but it

470
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: is it is interesting. Sometimes you don't know the physical

471
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: state of players, and two they actually bring them in

472
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: and your doctors put their own eyes on them. And

473
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: in this league we've seen it many times. Players past

474
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: physicals with some franchises and don't with others. You know,

475
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: there's some some franchises have a little bit more, you know,

476
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: they're they're not they're not quite as conservative as others,

477
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: and some have paid a serious price because of that.

478
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals have had issues with that at

479
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: the receiver position in their past and they don't want

480
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: to get stuck in that situation again. But honestly, those

481
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: are the two areas. It's it's, uh, you know, where

482
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: where are you are? You are your pricing yourself right?

483
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: And where are you physically in terms of in terms

484
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: of free agency? But I mean, Web, he's he's solid.

485
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: It looks like he's a solid football player, a solid edition.

486
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: They still have their two number one draft picks on

487
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: the outside and playing Web and the inside, and they

488
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: got a couple of young players they like last year

489
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: that they can develop. So it's going to be interesting

490
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: how it all unfolds with Dark West as we do

491
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: this podcast Dark Quaz I believe is scheduled to visit

492
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs today, So maybe it works

493
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: out for him in kc although I don't. I don't

494
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: think he's going to get ten million plus per year

495
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs. But but let's say, for the sake

496
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: of argument, that he does not come back to Cincinnati.

497
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: Does that now bring cornerback back into play with the

498
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: eleventh pick in the draft? You know, I think I

499
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: think there that cornerback is another deep position. But I'm

500
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: not sure. You know, I'm not sure that I go

501
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: there at eleven. I don't know, you know, I'd have to,

502
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: I'd have to. I'm not saying cornerback is week in

503
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: the first round, but I could see them going cornerback

504
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: in the second round. I mean, if they go a

505
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: lineback or offensive line in the first round, I could

506
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: see him going cornerback in the second round, or I

507
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: could see him going with the other position they didn't

508
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: with that first round pick. But yeah, I mean they're

509
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: going to definitely they'll take a cornerback. Webb was what

510
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder coming out. I think I think something

511
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: like that fourth or fifth round guy somewhere in that range,

512
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: so you know, doesn't have to be a first round guy.

513
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: But the Bengals have had good success on the back

514
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: end goal with force rounders, that's for sure. What's your

515
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: free agency status? When do you do you got a

516
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: big contract coming anytime soon? Right? I'm just thankful to

517
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: wake up and look at the grass, and I'm looking

518
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: at the green side rather than the brown side. Everyone

519
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: lap predicted the perfect news, and I'm going to make

520
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: a prediction about Tyler Eiffort. I predict that Effort plays

521
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: in at least twelve games this year. His luck has

522
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: got to change sooner or later. Right. Last year, in

523
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: the four games that Eifford played in before his nasty

524
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: ankle injury, the Bengals scored thirty four, thirty four, twenty one,

525
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: and thirty seven points, and one of those thirty four

526
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: point games was against Baltimore, one of the best defensive

527
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. The Bengals average thirty one point

528
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: five points with Effort and twenty point two without him.

529
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Since his twenty fifteen Pro Bowls season, when Tyler caught

530
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: thirteen touchdown passes, Effort has only played in fourteen of

531
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: a possible forty eight games. Due to back and ankle injuries.

532
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I was pretty frustrated, to say the least. You do

533
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: everything you can to put yourself in a good position

534
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: and then something like that happens. You just kind of

535
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: ask why. But you know, once you kind of take

536
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: a step back and kind of gather yourself, it's it's

537
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: not the worst thing that can happen, and you just

538
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: try to be as positive as you can and support

539
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: your guys, support your teammates, and find a way to

540
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: get healthy again. And that's what I've had to do. It.

541
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: It's I certainly don't enjoy rehab or anything about it,

542
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: but it is somewhat rewarding being able to complete that

543
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: process and go up through all that out coming out

544
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: all right. According to Paul Dayner Junior of the Cincinnati Enquirer,

545
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Eiffert's one year contract is for a base of four

546
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: million dollars with lots of potential bonuses. He'll get eighty

547
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: one thousand bucks every time he's on the forty six

548
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: man game day roster, and the deal also includes up

549
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: to two point five million in incentives. Before Iffort signed

550
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: his deal, the only Bengals tight end to appear in

551
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: every game last year also agreed to return. C j

552
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: uzama I spoke with him last week, the day he

553
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: signed his new contract about a wide variety of topics,

554
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: including whether he would personally recruit his buddy effort to

555
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: stick around. Two. CJ, you became a free agent for

556
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: the first time. Were you open to any possibility or

557
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: did you really want to come back to Cincinnati? Yeah,

558
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean I really wanted to come back. Obviously, I

559
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: was open to, you know, whatever happens happens. And I

560
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: was very laid back about the entire situation just because

561
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: I knew that that was this is the business aspect

562
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: of it, and I've done all I could do, um,

563
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, with with football watch so um, but I

564
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: will say that, you know, I am unbelievably excited to

565
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: come back, and you know, the coaching change and you know,

566
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: the culture change that that's going to occur as was

567
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: very appealing to me. Um. And so that definitely was

568
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: at the forefront of my mind throughout everything that was

569
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: going on. And UM, I know the numerous talks that

570
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: I've had with my agent, you know, we had talked

571
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: about that that was pretty much what we let off with.

572
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: So um. Yeah, I'm excited that it's over with. I'm

573
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: excited to be back here and I'm excited to you know,

574
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: hit the ground running and and really get ready for

575
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: the next season. You've been here for four years. What

576
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: is it about the team in the city that you like?

577
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just like, I like my guys man

578
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: that I have here. I love I love the interaction

579
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: that I have with with you know, everyone, with Geo,

580
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Andy and AJ, Tyler Boyd and um we have a

581
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: young team honestly too, which is which is crazy to

582
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: me thinking about it right now, the oldest Titan as

583
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: it stands in the Tide End room. So, um, that's

584
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of a little eye opening. But Um,

585
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: as far as the city is concerned, I like how

586
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it's in size, it's kind of

587
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: a big city, but you know, it has a small

588
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: city feel to it, and I love that. I mean,

589
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm from a little suburb outside of Atlanta. I'm not

590
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: really I'm a suburbs guy, you know, So, um, it

591
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: has that kind of small town feel to me. Um.

592
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: I love going out and Geo and I find these

593
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: awesome little like hole in the wall restaurants that would

594
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: go to and Um, I love just you know, being

595
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: able to walk around and um, hang out and vibe

596
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: in the city. Yeah, No, I don't know, it's nice.

597
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: I love it. You've made decent bucks for a recent

598
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: college grad. But if the reports are accurate, three years,

599
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: eighteen million, that's life changing money. Has that sunk in? No, Yeah,

600
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I definitely did. Um at the moment, it didn't. When

601
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I had heard the numbers and kind of my agent

602
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: was talking about what, you know, what the contract, um,

603
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the verbiage of it. But you know,

604
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: when I got to talk to my parents a little

605
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: bit about it, um, you know, I you know, I

606
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: kind of just cried a little bit just thinking about how, um,

607
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, the process that it took to get here

608
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: and everything that had come with that, and uh, you know,

609
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't think that I'll really understand it

610
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: until a little bit later in life. But um. Yeah,

611
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: As as a saying, yeah, I'm very I mean, I'm

612
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: immeasurably blessed to be in the position that I am.

613
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: We're talking to see Juzama. You played hurt last year.

614
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: There were times you'd make a catch and I'd describe

615
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: you coming off the field with your arm pinned against

616
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: your side and lap them when I were convinced, well

617
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: that's it for today. There's no way it comes back.

618
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: One or two snaps later, you were back in the game.

619
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: How bad was it? That was pretty bad? Um. So

620
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that kind of like pushed me

621
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: through one was I know that Aj Green had had,

622
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, had similar things going on with him earlier

623
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: in his career, and um, you know they always would

624
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: joke with me in the back. Well, AJ played through it,

625
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: U And AJ's response is, yeah, I didn't have to

626
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: block anybody. I just had to casht theball. But um,

627
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, hearing that and you know, I mean it hurt.

628
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean it sucked. But at the same time, you know,

629
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's part of football. It's you know,

630
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: you get beat up, and um, you gotta love it.

631
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: You gotta really embrace that aspect of it. And um,

632
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, yeah, there are certain times

633
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: I'd hit the ground and be like, I mean, I

634
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: would be no good the next place, so I'm gonna

635
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: come off, but um it'd feel fine, and I you know,

636
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Speaker 1: kind of shrug it off a little bit get back

637
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: in there and try to help the team win. So um, yeah,

638
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: that's kind of my mindset about it, and my mindset

639
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: with you know, injuries, I guess in general. So um, yeah,

640
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean it hurt, but it didn't it didn't. It

641
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: didn't hurt that bad. Two weeks after the season, after resting,

642
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: it was okay. Yeah, two weeks after it felt fine. Um,

643
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: And you know, they told me to take a month off.

644
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: So I kind of called called a bunch of the

645
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: guys and I was like, Hey, can I do anything

646
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: or shut not? And they said, nah, just take a

647
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: month off, just rest it. Um, don't you know you

648
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: don't want any residual effects from you know, trying to

649
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: push yourself too hard and trying to do anything. So

650
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, it's fine with me. I'll

651
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: take a month off of not doing anything on it.

652
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: And then um got back in the weight room and

653
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: I felt like nothing had ever happened. So um, it's

654
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of funny how that works, but yeah, I know

655
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: it feels fun You and Tyler Reifford are tight. He

656
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: remains a free agent. How much have you been in

657
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: contact and do you try to recruit him or is

658
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: it a part of the business where you just let

659
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: that be and when he makes a decision, then you

660
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: deal with that. Yeah, I mean obviously, I mean I

661
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: was my guy, I is my guy. We Geo called

662
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: me on Sunday and he was with Life and um,

663
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: they're just checking up seeing how I was doing stuff,

664
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: and you know, we kind of talked a little bit

665
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: about it. But um yeah, it's kind of like one

666
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: of those things where I don't really know if I, um,

667
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I obviously I want to play with my guys. You know,

668
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: our room would be immensely better with him in it. Um,

669
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: both you know, on the football field and off of it.

670
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: So um yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna chirp in his

671
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: ear a little bit, but I don't want to. I

672
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: don't want to push too hard, you know, I know. Um,

673
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a business in that way, which you know,

674
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It sucks some sons, but

675
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping we get him back. Obviously,

676
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: that's my guy. He looks pretty good in the workout videos.

677
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I have to give him the most

678
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: crap for those workout videos. Um. Now, I know it's

679
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I know he has to pay. I mean he's posting

680
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: him because you know, he wants everyone to know he's

681
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: good and he is, I mean he's um and he

682
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: works his butt off and you know, being able to

683
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: see that part of him that you know other people don't.

684
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: That's why he posts the things that he does, you know,

685
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: because he wants everyone to know that. Um, he's truly

686
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: dedicated to it. And you know, we in the locker

687
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: room we know that. And anybody that knows him knows

688
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: that he he works as hard as anybody else does

689
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: just to be able to play and be with his guys,

690
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: and UM, so we respect the heck out of him

691
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: for that. You'll have a new Tight Ends coach this year,

692
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: James Casey, who is closer to your age than mine.

693
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I've heard from people that he is like the greatest

694
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: guy ever. I don't know how well you've gotten to

695
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: know him yet, but how excited are you to play

696
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: for a guy that's sin it's mid thirties. Yeah. No,

697
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: I've gotten to talk to him a little bit, you know, UM,

698
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: and now I'm very excited. Um. I've mentioned you know,

699
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I love coaches coaches, and I was still keeping contact

700
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: and um, I think that he has helped me develop

701
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: into the tight end that I am today because I

702
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: didn't play tight end in college. So, UM, I have

703
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: the most respect for him. And you know, coach Casey

704
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: coming in, we're very similar in terms of, you know,

705
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: kind of our background. You know, he played quarterback in

706
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: high school and then um, in college he was kind

707
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: of like a slash player. You know, he was more

708
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: of a slash player than I was. He played. I

709
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: remember reading something about he played like seven positions in

710
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: one game and I was like, dude, this guy, this guy,

711
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: he's got it. Um. So yeah, I know, I've gotten

712
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: to talk to him a little bit and he seems

713
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: like a great guy. And I honestly, I'm looking forward

714
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: to working with him. And um, you know, he's you know,

715
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: coming from similar backgrounds. He was like, you look, I

716
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: understand you know the intricacies of the position that um,

717
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: you have to learn, you know, not playing it growing up.

718
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: So he said he's looking forward to you know, coaching

719
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: me on that, and UM, now I'm I'm really looking

720
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: forward to building a reallytionship with him. Last thing, you

721
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: love to travel. You can afford first class now or

722
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: at least business class. What's on the itinerary. Um, I'll

723
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: still be sitting. I'll still be sitting you know the

724
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: the x ro x ros my go too. It's only

725
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: like fifteen bucks extra and you get the most legroom.

726
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: So um. Now, yeah, I'm going to Jail's wedding, Um

727
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: coming up here in April, which is in Italy, which

728
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: is in Italy. Yea, if it's in Italy, Lake Como. Um,

729
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: and so I'm I'm looking forward to that. You know,

730
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: there's a there's a few of the guys that that

731
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: are gonna be going there and I'm looking forward to

732
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: seeing him. Um. And uh yeah, so that's that's the

733
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: only true plans. Um. You know, I'm moving to Nashville,

734
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: and um, I've been traveling a little bit this offseason. Um.

735
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, it it'll LEAs next on

736
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: the trip. And that's the next big one. Congratulations on

737
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the new deal. It is well deserved. And look forward

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Speaker 1: to having you back in Cincinnati. Thank you. That's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for this episode of the podcast. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't done so already, don't forget to subscribe an itune, Stitcher,

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