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Speaker 1: Good mornings, Sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network Thursday, January ninth on J.

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Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot Com. We stepped on the beach

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Speaker 1: yesterday had a blast. That was a Zaney episode, so

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Speaker 1: Jannis and his elite defense, got into Costco Pizza, Winter Boots,

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Speaker 4: As I was going to bed last night, the thing

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Speaker 1: We got that from Lee. And also what I hope

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Speaker 1: him talking about Camucha. So yeah, go check that one out.

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Speaker 1: That's the Beach Step in podcast that we dropped on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. In other news, we announced yesterday that we

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Speaker 1: Star Weekend Saturday, February fifteenth, at the Shuba's Tavern in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: People raking is it sold out?

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Speaker 3: Jadh Wow?

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Speaker 1: And this just means we're gonna have to do more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, up at up at truebas Tavern in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: then we'll go from there. Oh that is amazing, selling

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Speaker 4: What a great venue have you been? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean that we're going there. Yeah, it's a good venue.

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Speaker 4: We'll have a good time, but not as fun as

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. Yeah, that was like twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, and that will be a podcast up afterward

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Speaker 1: Good call, good call test. All right, we got wow,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about here. We also

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Speaker 3: From Ley, Yes we do.

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Speaker 1: What are you working on it right now?

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Speaker 3: You'll see you'll see interesting.

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Speaker 1: We've got tweeted the night. But in the association on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: whoa Boy, Heat and Pacers. It got a little spicy

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Speaker 1: when Jimmy Butler and TJ. Warren they got tangled up

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Speaker 1: the very next possession, Jimmy, he throws a shoulder into Warren.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. After the game, Jimmy didn't hesitate to

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Speaker 5: I think it's tough for him. Because I can guard

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Speaker 5: of the day, that's what it comes down to. I

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Speaker 5: There's something that you just don't say as a man.

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Speaker 5: He gotta he gotta see me the next time, because

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Speaker 5: I feel like what he said was truly disrespectful. And

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Speaker 5: it's all good because we see him again. I ain't

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Speaker 5: scared of nobody, So you know, he talking about, Oh,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna fight this, that, this, that he's not he's

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Speaker 5: not even in my own league, like nowhere near me.

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Speaker 5: And if I was their coach, I would I would

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Speaker 5: never put him on me. Ever again, He's like, no,

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Speaker 5: put somebody else on me, because I'm I'm a test

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Speaker 1: Not long after that, Jimmy posted a photo to his

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Speaker 1: Instagram account circling the next game between the Heat and

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Speaker 1: the Pacers. Tu or false question for you guys, March

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Speaker 1: twentieth is suddenly the most anticipated game on the NBA calendar.

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Speaker 1: Tru or false?

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Speaker 2: They better get on national TV. That's all I know.

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Speaker 2: It's got to get off league pass on national TV.

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Speaker 4: Flex it, please flex hard.

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Speaker 2: Whoever is airing the NCAA tournament that night. Just air

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Speaker 2: that instead. Oh, but somebody will, but somebody will put

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Speaker 2: on pacers And this was awesome. It washenomenal. The only

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Speaker 2: bad part was that TJ. Warren had to clap and

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Speaker 1: He is whether you love him or hate him. It's

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Speaker 4: This is why I will always be a Jimmy Butler fan.

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Speaker 4: Because he will talk trash about literally anybody, his teammates, opponents,

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Speaker 4: a coaching staff's decisions, it doesn't matter. And I one

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 4: Warren's not in his league. He can't guard Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler can shut him down any single day. We

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Speaker 4: stand a legend, say hey to your mother for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I'm Nate McMillan, then I put TJ on

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Speaker 3: The fact that Jimmy had to say so much. Jimmy

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Speaker 3: It's like because TJ didn't really say anything. He was

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Speaker 3: he lives for that. And when he says like he

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Speaker 3: This is what we want is a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: you know, arriver in spicing leg because too many people

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Speaker 3: criticize and say they're too friendly. Yep, not enough of

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Speaker 3: this stuff in it. And it wasn't anything nasty. I

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Speaker 3: mean that first.

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Speaker 1: I was a little worried on the first one when

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Speaker 1: Jimmy does blow by Warren and then Warren grabs him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy spins around and I honestly thought he was going

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Speaker 1: it will a classic NBA fight where it's like hey, separamium.

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Speaker 2: That's where it all started from. It all started from

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Speaker 2: grabbing Jimmy Butler around the shoulders. NBA players do not

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Speaker 2: like touching around the shoulders head area, and and that's

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Speaker 2: why he got upset and that's where it all started from. It.

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Speaker 2: That's understandable. No touch zone up there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was malicious though. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was trying to slow down. Yeah, you got past me

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Speaker 3: and taking the foul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: But that's why he says he can't guard me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right, because he went right by him and then

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Speaker 2: and then Jimmy Butler just want when they got back

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Speaker 2: after that, Jimmy Butler just wanted to put his shoulder

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Speaker 3: That's all that was backfight on backfight on Jimmy because

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Speaker 3: he got the offensive foul, but then truly back Warren, Yeah, cpping,

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Speaker 3: which you know, to get tossed for that, like, especially

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Speaker 1: And it's real legit. The next possession out just got

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Speaker 3: I mean, we love it. Let him play out a

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Speaker 1: Blew them out in this game. We should note that here.

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Speaker 1: The other part about this is, you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: and what's bolstered, Like, oh, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: It's good for the Pacers to get a little bit

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Speaker 2: of publicity because they don't get any and so they're

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Speaker 2: at twenty three and fifteen. It's they're having a good

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Speaker 2: season without Victor Aldipo. In March twentieth, when this game

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Speaker 2: Aldipo will be back, as he told Sean Sharana, the

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Speaker 2: Athletic Sham Seruanni and Stadium Shump Sharani that he's coming

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Speaker 2: back later this month January twenty ninth. I believe is

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Speaker 2: circle down the schedules.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so how do you know.

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Speaker 2: How do you know that you're coming back like three

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Speaker 2: weeks away?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he even talked about that, like it's

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Speaker 1: nice to sort of pick the game, pick the date,

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Speaker 1: to sort of shoot for that target. But things could change.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's like all hundred percent he will

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Speaker 2: It's good to see it. Hopefully it'll be you know,

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Speaker 2: full throttle Pacers back with Malcolm Bridy and we'll see

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Speaker 2: a good matchup because whoever the Pacers play in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the Heat. As you know, Dwayne Wade tweeted

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Speaker 2: Pacers go out. If those two teams play, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be great. Whoever the Pacers play is going to be great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can now add the Jimmy blowing kisses to TJ.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got this one with Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Thrown in the Jimmy Butler collection of just as well.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler, the guy has mister face reactions. That's what

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Speaker 4: screams reality television star. Yeah, Like he would be perfect

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Speaker 4: He's got that crazy genie. He's happy to stir the

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Speaker 2: I guess one thing that's going out a little bit

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Speaker 2: What the heck did he say? Let's lip read in

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Speaker 1: Barely ever heard TJ. Warren say a word.

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Speaker 4: last day, right. That honestly gave me a little bit

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Speaker 4: If he wants to throw down with Jimmy Butler, I'm

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Speaker 4: here for it. But he doesn't have an Instagram post

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Speaker 1: Come on, buddy, he wouldn't even address it after the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you're right, ass Like with a guy

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Speaker 2: It could be And this game's in Indiana right on

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Speaker 2: I don't know in ninety nine point nine percent sure,

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Speaker 1: A few more notes. I actually think this exchange between

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Speaker 1: show you mediocre. We're gonna go to war here tonight.

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Speaker 1: What's Gianna is gonna do here? Johann is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: it's gonna put them together. It's gonna draft them on

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Speaker 1: the same team. He's gonna separate, you know. Not Simonis

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think is a peacemaker, right.

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Speaker 1: Because we've already had the peacemaking happen in the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game with who.

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Speaker 2: That that's right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Russ and KD.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of years ago. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: what will honest do we will see. Just got to

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Speaker 4: How deep is Giannis into the gossip world?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just throwing seems so above it to me.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want to deal with these fools fighting amongst

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Speaker 3: God every every game, every pregame. Though, he's like getting

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Speaker 2: He's getting better too at fake wrestling. I think he's

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Speaker 2: stomping his foot as he throws his punch. You can

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Speaker 3: I think. I think they are really good. I still

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Speaker 3: enjoy them, you know the box even if they choreographing

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Speaker 3: him doesn't matter. They're still great. But you don't want wrestling, Well,

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Speaker 3: it's live and we've got free tickets. Oh yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You love going to smack Down Live when Renee gets

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Speaker 1: his tickets. I forgot about that part. Drop yeah, next

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Speaker 1: one here, guys, Denver.

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Speaker 1: It's finished their five game road trip with a one

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Speaker 1: oh seven to one oh six win over the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: last night. The Joker scored twenty six of his thirty

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Speaker 1: Trure falls. Mvp yo Kitchen is back.

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Speaker 3: Fall, So I adn't say mvp yo Kich's back. He's

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Speaker 3: to wins. And against Atlanta that was a game they

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Speaker 3: obviously should have won. He had a career night, and

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Speaker 3: then in Dallas that game last night could have gone

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Speaker 3: either way. At the end he had that play, he

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Speaker 3: just took him me side and did a classic Jokic

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Speaker 1: Of flix and the dust.

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Speaker 3: Like he must have now at least five or six

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Speaker 1: It's either one of those where he backs down and

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Speaker 1: then just chucks it up and it goes in like

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Speaker 3: That's about right. Yeah, but yeah, he's just he's looking

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Speaker 3: And he again he's he seems to be aggressive as

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Speaker 3: can't really stop me. I can hit the three, I

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Speaker 3: got those beautiful soft hands around the rim. And again,

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Speaker 2: But why can't you put him in the MVP conversation? Well,

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Speaker 2: what more do you want the guy to do? He

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Speaker 2: just scored eighty points in two games, had his career

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Speaker 2: we've been ridiculing him for a month, that they're big

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Speaker 2: in fat shoulders, but now they're just big and slender shoulders,

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Speaker 4: Just doesn't have natural cuts. I've been there, I've been there.

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Speaker 3: He's still got more work to do to get into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's playing at an MVP level right now

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Speaker 2: these these games, and he's back to he's back to being,

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Speaker 2: he's playing better than Joel and beat Karl. Anthony Towns

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Speaker 2: you throw him in that center discussion, sure, biggest big,

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Speaker 2: he definitely should be there. I wasn't putting him in there,

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Speaker 2: but that's totally totally fair. And yeah, it's nice to

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Speaker 2: nice for Carlisle to have Porzingis on Jokic for those shots, just.

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Speaker 3: He's just huge.

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Speaker 1: He's a huge dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, you love to see him backing the guys

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Speaker 2: It's a good call. He had to shoot that, whether

435
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Speaker 2: he got blocked on that closeout or not. He had

436
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Speaker 2: to shoot it. There's no time.

437
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Speaker 1: It was good close out from r.

438
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Speaker 3: Got out there.

439
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was nice defense.

440
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 3: He staw that play unfolding because he left his man

441
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 3: and he and he realized that, like he's there and

442
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 3: he had to get over there, and uh didn't he jump?

443
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Speaker 1: Didn't panic play of Plumbly hustled back too after the

444
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Speaker 1: after he dribbled in Phinney Smith. I mean, there could

445
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 1: have been even a little jumper on the baseline there,

446
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,479
Speaker 1: but you know, Plumbley was coming fast and it's got

447
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Speaker 1: the hops.

448
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Speaker 3: It was great defense. Mike loves that when he did

449
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 3: plays smart defense like that, so do you you posted

450
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Speaker 3: but I did there would have been a very solid

451
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Speaker 3: defensive play if we still had that se Wow.

452
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Speaker 1: Wow, Jokic has done this. I love watching it when

453
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Speaker 1: it happens. When he takes all these games. There was

454
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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago against the Sixers he'd had one,

455
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Speaker 1: and against the Pacers recently, and then that Hawk's monster game,

456
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Speaker 1: and then now this one against the mass I just

457
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: we got to get to the bottom of why he

458
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Speaker 1: just sucks ass in November. I mean, like you said it, Tray,

459
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: he just gets better as the year goes on generally

460
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: go look at his career splits. It's sort of mind boggling.

461
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: In the month of November in Jokic's career, and we're

462
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Speaker 1: talking a big chunk of games here. That's seventy games,

463
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Speaker 1: seventy plus games, seventy one I think to be exact,

464
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: he's averaging twelve points and he's, like you said, right

465
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 1: way down, like he was looking at it now right,

466
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: I can't hit a three to save his life. And

467
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 1: then you basically will get every other month, you know,

468
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: from there on out, you know, with December January favorite

469
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Speaker 1: it's wild like and not just I'm not talking about

470
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Speaker 1: this just this year, people, I'm talking about his whole career.

471
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Speaker 1: He is just a slow starter, but the guys he

472
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Speaker 1: finally gets it going, and then he's right there in

473
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Speaker 1: that MVP conversation. I believe Basketball Reference as of this

474
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: morning has him as the seventh, yes, seventh ranked guy

475
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Speaker 1: in the MVP candidate race. You got wow, actually a

476
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Speaker 1: bit of a shock hearted number one right now over Giannis.

477
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: I believe that's a new development. Lebron, Luca, Anthony Davis,

478
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler right there, and then Yokich had seventh, Rudy, ninth,

479
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: and tenth favors of the big guys.

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, boards, that's exactly right.

481
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Speaker 1: But good game from you, Okaid. All right, let's keep

482
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Speaker 1: it moving here. This one was weird. I woke up

483
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: to this story because I went to bed someone early

484
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Speaker 1: last night. Calves coach John Beeline apologized to his players

485
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Speaker 1: for saying that they were no longer playing like a

486
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Speaker 1: bunch of thugs, saying that he meant to use the

487
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Speaker 1: word slugs. The incident took place during a film session

488
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Beeline told woes was with breaking this story. Quote.

489
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I had said the word thugs,

490
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Speaker 1: but my staff told me later I did, and so

491
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Speaker 1: I must have said it. I meant to say slugs

492
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Speaker 1: as in slow moving. We weren't playing hard before and

493
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Speaker 1: now we were playing harder. I meant it as a compliment.

494
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Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say. End quote. Beeline

495
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Speaker 1: also said he reached out to particular players on the

496
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Speaker 1: Calves to apologize and to talk to them about this.

497
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Speaker 1: What he says was, you know, just misspoke, true or false.

498
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Speaker 1: Beeline won't be coaching the Calves next season.

499
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Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think he'll be gone today. Actually,

500
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm guessing there's lots of reasons to give John Bline

501
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: the acts and yeah, you can't speak this way. And

502
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Speaker 2: I don't buy the slugs converse. No, I don't, as

503
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: any coach in the history of him of basketball said,

504
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: you guys were playing like a bunch of slugs. Are

505
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Speaker 2: slugs assembled in a bunch? I don't think so, number

506
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Speaker 2: number one and number two. It's just it doesn't make sense.

507
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: And it's guys.

508
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Speaker 1: Have played sluggish before. You know that's been said.

509
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: Right, you're right about guys have been playing Yes, sluggish

510
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: slugs is a different scenario. I don't think they're insects

511
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Speaker 2: out there.

512
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Speaker 4: I thought it was a great line from Steve Kerr.

513
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 4: Though he was somewhat asked about this after the game.

514
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Speaker 4: He was asked about the Warriors, if they were playing harder,

515
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Speaker 4: if they were playing like slugs. He's like, I don't

516
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Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. He got filled in on

517
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Speaker 4: it by Ray Ritter and they said, well, actually we

518
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 4: were flying around out there. We were playing like bugs.

519
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Speaker 3: John Beeline signed a five year contract. I thought it

520
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Speaker 3: was only a three years.

521
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, that's what's crazy. About this sixty six

522
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: year old college coach. He did sign a five year deal,

523
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: so if he's getting fired like task, maybe thinks he

524
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Speaker 1: getting paid still, which is wild. What do you think, though,

525
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Speaker 1: do you think he's maybe not today, but even the

526
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Speaker 1: next season, as I asked.

527
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Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I don't think he'll be there next season

528
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Speaker 3: because a lot of coaches from college do struggle to

529
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Speaker 3: make the transition to the pros, and he clearly hasn't

530
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Speaker 3: connected with his players. The Calves. Now, look, they're a

531
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Speaker 3: rebuilding phrase for sure, so they're not really expected to

532
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Speaker 3: be contenders. But I don't think he's had an impact

533
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: on that team that the Calves weren't going forward.

534
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Speaker 2: So no, they're playing terrible basketball, and that's part of

535
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: it as well. They're just yeah, they're bad.

536
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are unfortunately in the worst team in the

537
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: league spot right now in the NBA. You know, we've

538
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 4: been talking about him for basically two weeks, how bad

539
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: they look, how Kevin Love hates being there, how nobody

540
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: likes playing with Colin Sex, and how they've botched draft picks.

541
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Speaker 4: It just honestly feels like Beeline is out of touch

542
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 4: to be coaching twenty year olds. When he's a sixty

543
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 4: six year old man. I guess it's different when you're

544
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: dealing with an eighteen year old in college. I don't

545
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: understand that. But we've only had bad Cavs stories since

546
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: twenty twenty started. It's not looking good.

547
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Speaker 1: No, it actually this this story this stugs or slugs

548
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: and did he mean to? And what the hell is

549
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: going on here? Like it reminded me a lot of

550
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: when then Nick's president Phil Jackson referred to Lebron's group

551
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Speaker 1: of friends and his business partners as his posse a

552
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You know again, Yeah, it's similar,

553
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Speaker 1: And like I remember the time Averck Carter with Lebron's

554
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: business partner. He made it adamantly clear he didn't think

555
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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson was a racist, but he believed the only

556
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Speaker 1: reason Jackson used that word at the time, the posse word,

557
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: was because Lebron and his group of friends and his

558
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: business partners were African American, because they were black and

559
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Speaker 1: that and that Phil Jackson wouldn't have you the word

560
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: posse if he was talking about white people, and he

561
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: just wouldn't have And uh, you know again, I don't know.

562
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: I guess my gut says Beeline did just miss he

563
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: just accidentally said thugs instead of slugs. I only reason

564
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I say that it doesn't in the described context, using

565
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: thugs doesn't really make any sense. It doesn't at all,

566
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: and not that slugs makes a whole lot more. But

567
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Speaker 1: I guess the idea that he was saying, Hey, I'm

568
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: complimenting you for that loss against the Pistons because you

569
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: played with a little bit more energy. You weren't as

570
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Speaker 1: sluggish as you were in the four prior losses. I

571
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: guess I'm maybe reaching.

572
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not make sense in a basketball locker room anyway,

573
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

574
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: No, No, you're you're right.

575
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Speaker 1: I think all I think this now, like because look,

576
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: we just went from the Cavs tuning out Beeline in

577
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: reports not that long ago, like these film sessions. They

578
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: were like, like this guy college approach, We don't care

579
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: he harps on everything. Uh, they just tuned them out

580
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: to now now they're like, whoa, what the hell did

581
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: you just say? Like we've like one on it, Like

582
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: they perked up because like, what what is he talking?

583
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: And there was even some of the original report that

584
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: said some of the players didn't even notice that he

585
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: had said it, which to me means some of the

586
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: players just weren't paying attention to what he was saying.

587
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm I'm gonna go true. I don't

588
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there next year. I don't know

589
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: if it'll be today. Like maybe tass is leaning into

590
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: but uh, it can't be long. I guess Kobe Altman's

591
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: obviously looking into it by all reports from WOJH and

592
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: gonna make a decision.

593
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: They'll probably look at the immediate assessment of it too

594
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: and take some of that into consideration. If if it

595
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: looks like, hey, man, you can't keep a guy on

596
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: who's yeah, said that, maybe they take that into consideration.

597
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: If people should of give him the benefit of the doubt, though,

598
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: maybe they just hope it goes away.

599
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, truthfully, it's gonna be up to it might opinion.

600
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: It would be up to the players. I mean, right,

601
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: he's bi Len's reached out, he's apologized. But Kobe Altman

602
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: and the Cavs organization needs to talk to those guys

603
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: and say, like, what do you think here, Like what's

604
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: your take on it? Just a mistake?

605
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: Move on?

606
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing some sort of them. To me, there's

607
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: reports that they are doing some sort of investigation and

608
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: having some sort of conversations today. But yeah, we're in

609
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: We're in January here, and we've already had anonymous sources

610
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: in the first I guess it was month of the

611
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: season in the CA's locker room saying John Beeline has

612
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: already lost the locker room and no one listens to him.

613
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: And then on the floor, you obviously had the Kevin

614
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: Love scenario where no one's playing together and the team

615
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: is extremely bad and it's being led by a bunch

616
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: of young players that don't seem to be getting better,

617
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: and so somebody's going to pay the price, and they're

618
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: just not Yeah, as Trey said, he's not in touch

619
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: like he wasn't Michigan. The guys who are in the

620
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: back court coll Sexton, Terry Scarland obviously gets passed because

621
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: he's been in the league two months. But con Sexton

622
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: isn't getting better. The team isn't being run any better.

623
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Speaker 2: Consexton is at the bottom of a John Hollinger's NBA

624
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Playmakers slash Quarterbacks article on The Athletic. He's thirtieth of

625
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: thirty and he's number His numbers are fine when you

626
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: look at sextons numbers individually, but somebody's got paid the

627
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: price at some point. And maybe the fact that he

628
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: signed a five year deal with the Calves and John

629
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: Beeline helps him because all four of those other years

630
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: are guaranteed. But hey, is there a moral clause in

631
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: the NBA? Can you not get paid for the rest

632
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: of you? There has to be there has to be

633
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: some sort of some sort of out. I watched the

634
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Morning Show. There has to be some sort of out

635
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: for people that violate that sort of moral ethical clause.

636
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: And yes, we'll figure out whether or not he said

637
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: you guys were playing like a bunch of slugs, but

638
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: now you're not, or whether you call them a bunch

639
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: of thugs.

640
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: Well, according to Chris Fader of Cleveland dot Com, b

641
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: Line is currently conducting the shoot around for the Cleveland

642
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: Cavaliers in Detroit right now, so we'll.

643
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: See next one. Kemba Walker was called for two technical

644
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: fouls and ejected for the first time in his NBA

645
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: career as part of a crazy sequence in the third

646
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: quarter of Boston's one nine to one fourteen loss till

647
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: the Spurs last night. Kemba was dropped on a pretty

648
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: bone crunching screens set by LaMarcus Aldridge, Kemba popped up.

649
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: He immediately had words for rookie referee Evan Scott and uh,

650
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: it didn't take line to get tossed. I mean, you

651
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: got the two texts right there. It felt unusually fast,

652
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: I would say for an ejection, but sure or false

653
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Kember didn't deserve to be ejected that quickly. Let's throw

654
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: it that way. True false on that.

655
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: I'll say false on that, I'd say, now he's probably

656
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: got a complaint on the on the on the block.

657
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: There was a pretty tough screen set from LaMarcus Oldridge.

658
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: But he got up, he went at the ref he

659
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: got that first team and he clearly just didn't care.

660
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: He kept going.

661
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: So he kept going for like two seconds. Is the

662
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: is the problem.

663
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: But he was sort of he was sort of making

664
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: his way towards the referee. He he just almost ignored

665
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: that first tech And to me, it was one of

666
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: those ones he wanted to just he wanted to get ejected.

667
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean, now, having a bad night, they'd sort of

668
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: gotten back into the game. He was frustrated. He just

669
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: got hit and then he was.

670
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Just like he wanted to experience being ejected because he

671
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: had never been ejected.

672
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you know, you say something to

673
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: the referee and then you know, you get your tea

674
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: and you kind of cool down. But he got that tea,

675
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: he saw that tea, and then he just kept going.

676
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: So he's kind of asking for it in that sense.

677
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's the difference most referees. They give you

678
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: the first tea, then they let you cool down. Yeah,

679
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: they let you probably keep barking a little bit. They

680
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: let your teammates hold you back, you walk away as

681
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: the referee give them a chance, and then if they continue, yes, okay,

682
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for a second tech. You're out here.

683
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: But it was bang bang Lee. I mean, it's a

684
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: rookie official. That's that's a very very quick that's.

685
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: The issue here. As a rookie official. Does he maybe

686
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: feel a little disrespect and he's like, listen, I'm not

687
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: having someone just scream in my face when I've already

688
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: hit you with the tell. It's it's a very very

689
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: tough sort of line. But I do think Kember crossed it.

690
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: I think so. So he got his two te's, he

691
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: got his look if they're winning the game, he probably

692
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: doesn't do it. If they're not having such a frustrating

693
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: night himself personally as well, he probably doesn't do it.

694
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: But I think a culmination of those things. And he

695
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm just gonna let this go.

696
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: I haven't test the referee at a little bit, so

697
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, okay, what do you guys think?

698
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: True false?

699
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: On that he didn't deserve to be objected that quickly.

700
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: At least it seemed like a quickie to me, But

701
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: I assumed that the ref was probably a little upset,

702
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: that it might have been a little flop, little sales

703
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: job by Kemba Walker. It was a hard screen, no

704
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: doubt about it.

705
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Because Aldridge sort of leans like really into it, like

706
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: it leans forward.

707
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: He definitely leans into it and it could have easily

708
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: been called a foul on Aldridge. But I think that

709
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: if you're a ref, you see a guy go flailing,

710
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: then he's yelling at you. Then he's still yelling at you,

711
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: you overreact, you toss him. It was too quick for me,

712
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: but maybe you rightly. Maybe he just wanted to get

713
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: kicked out inspire the team.

714
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably the content that what Kemba Walker said

715
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: I think is key here. Oh yeah, that seemed to

716
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: be what really agitated the referee. He turned away. He

717
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: did give him the calm down to two pumps to

718
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: the floor, relax call and turned around. And you know,

719
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't like to bring up the age of the

720
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: official or the or the thatture tenure of the official

721
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: into it, because it could happen to Joey Crawford, It

722
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: could happen to any official, and so it happened. We

723
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: have no idea what was said on the floor, and

724
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, over overriding the story here,

725
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: which which is the San Antonio Spurs kicking ace. They

726
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: they're smoking hot, They're they're dropping the Milwaukee Bucks. Now

727
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: they dropped the Boston Celtics. They put up one hundred

728
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: and twenty nine points on the board. People are gonna

729
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: start liking to watch the San Antonio Spurs.

730
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: Sounds like they're the best team in the East, and

731
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: teach on the Bucks and the Celtics. So much conferences

732
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: on one more.

733
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Thing before we can. I'm totally in on talking about

734
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: the Spurs, Loney Walker killing it.

735
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I understand if you're not nobody really is. But one day,

736
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: one day we will, because Loney Walker's on them.

737
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: One more things. I thought you were gonna go there

738
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: with your talking about the age of the official. I

739
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: think that's exactly what I saw on this. I saw.

740
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: I saw an official being young and a rookie with

741
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: thin skin. Right, these officials, over time, generally they get

742
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: thick skin. I mean, you can take it a little

743
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: bit more.

744
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: He got.

745
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Look, profanity was thrown, no doubt. I'm sure Kembas wore

746
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: at him.

747
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Joey Crawford threw out Tim Duncan when he was sitting

748
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: on the bench, Joey hundred years old.

749
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about good officials. That to me, that's all

750
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: it is. And that's fine. He's human and he's new

751
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: at his job, and I didn't I would like to

752
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: think maybe a year or two into the league he

753
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: lets that one go a little bit longer, you know again,

754
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: a little bit longer cooling down period, give him a

755
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: chance to stop first. He never stopped swearing, in my opinion,

756
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean.

757
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: It was, It wasn't It wasn't a swift white stock. Again,

758
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: he said something.

759
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: He said something nasty after after the first it was

760
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: it was there was a break and then Kemba Walker

761
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: did say something. I wish we had a scenario where Jimmy,

762
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: like Jimmy Butler said about TJ. Warreno, he disrespected me. Well,

763
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: the official should come out and say this is what

764
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: he said. Tell the pool reporters.

765
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: They say he.

766
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Said Kemba Walker used profanity towards an official that led

767
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: to the first technical fel. He continued to use profanity

768
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: and was given a second technical fel. That's what they

769
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: said to the pool reporters after the game. I think

770
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: it was Mott. Also, you Brad Stevens got a tech

771
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: in the exact same incident, so he's screaming a way

772
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: he gets one too. I mean, everybody's yelling at the official,

773
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: and maybe that's the other part of it. It's like

774
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: that's why you sort of do need to like as

775
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: much as you can, like sort of walk away. You

776
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: gave the tech, but everybody's gonna go nuts, so you

777
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: don't even know. Maybe Kemba didn't even yell that second profanity.

778
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it was someone else. Maybe it was someone in

779
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: the stands or another teammate or something like that. Look

780
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make an excuse for Kemball. He's

781
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: a good guy. This isn't his uh, this is not

782
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: how he rolls. Okay, this is the first time ever,

783
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: so it's pretty uh, you know, out of character. I

784
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: would I think we'd all agree for him.

785
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: I think Low Williams had his first injection as well

786
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: this season, right firsts out there.

787
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: But then also amidst all this, a fan threw a

788
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: beer can onto the court. It just missed the Spurs

789
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: bench like it went over the head. I think it

790
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: was like Pearl and maybe Bell and Ellie are there

791
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: and lands on the floor. Good news is Celtics say

792
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: the fan was immediately identified and arrested. I can't imagine

793
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: he'll ever be back here or she will ever be

794
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: back into that arena. But uh, there's some madness going

795
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: on here.

796
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: Oh Yang has the details Boston dot Com. Twenty two

797
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: year old man from Everett. He was sitting in the

798
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: section three oh three in the balcony and it wasn't

799
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: a beer. It was a twenty ounce truly. Oh my

800
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 4: bite seltzer from a bean town boy. Ooh.

801
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: He threw it from the upper bowl. I could have literally.

802
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: Capitated someone, Yeah, knocked them out. Okay, yeah, crazy incident.

803
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: Kenna gets toss again. I think the official was a

804
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: little too quick with the whistle. But let's talk Spurs

805
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: because that's you're you're not You're not wrong. That's a

806
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: nice win, one twenty nine to one fourteen. And they've

807
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: sort of got to go in here now again often.

808
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: To modern has, he's just going to that mid range

809
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: and just knocking them down. He I mean, it's funny

810
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: when he went to San Antonio because prior to joining

811
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: the Spurs, he was trying to develop that three point shot,

812
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: but it just wasn't really there for Derozen and I

813
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: think Popovich said, matter, if it's not your shot, don't

814
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 3: worry about it. You've got other skills and other ways

815
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: for scoring. And it feels like when DeRozan is in

816
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 3: this sort of a groove and in this sort of rhythm.

817
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: We saw it there in Toronto a lot throughout his

818
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: time there. He can just get his shot anytime he

819
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: wants it, and he gets the free throw line a lot.

820
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: He's a very good shoot. He's a very reliable player.

821
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: And the Spurs, who you know, we've talked about whether

822
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: whether or not this will be the season they finally

823
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: missed the playoffs. Well, it just this is the sort

824
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 3: of thing. It just sort of feels like the Spurs

825
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: of that team that know how to win, whereas teams

826
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: like the Grizzlies and the Blazers who are behind them.

827
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: Well the Blazers of course have been in the playoffs

828
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, but it just feels like

829
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: the Spurs will be that one team that will do

830
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: enough to keep them in because these veterans like him

831
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: and like Aldridge and Patty Mills has been very good

832
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: for them recently as well. That the Spurs are just

833
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: gotta keep on.

834
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: Spare always find a way. That was the first game

835
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: of a four game road trip here for the Spurs too.

836
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: That's a big one going into Boston and getting it

837
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: because now they go to Memphis, then Toronto, then Miami.

838
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Not these teams right there, even you know, the Grizzlies

839
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: right there right on their tails and playing well and

840
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: then the Raps and the heat. Never an easy win,

841
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: especially in their barn. So that's where the Spurs always find.

842
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: They start to find these ws. They go on these

843
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: little weird road trips and that's when they come back

844
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: and they're suddenly, you know, right back into the mix.

845
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: And you know, some people don't like watching the Martos

846
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: and play basketball because he's mister mid ranger. But when

847
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: he's got it going like this, He's had a nine

848
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: game stretch here where he is absolutely on fire, shooting

849
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: you know, around sixty five percent and scorching it. And

850
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: so he is interesting to watch then even if he

851
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: doesn't have a three point shot. But I know Greg

852
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: Popovich doesn't want to bend to new NBA rules, but

853
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: he's forcing the Marcus Aldridge to shoot three pointers. Somebody's

854
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: got to do it. He can't just have everybody shooting

855
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: mid rangers. And then guys are exciting. Like we mentioned earlier,

856
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Linnie Walker is awesome to watch. He only played nineteen

857
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: minutes in this game, but he took eleven shots because

858
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: when he gets out there as part of the bench unit,

859
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: he's faster and more athletic than a lot of guys,

860
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: and he's got skills. And they've brought him along slowly here,

861
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: you know, as a second year player, and you know

862
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: they're not going to give him the keys. But he's

863
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: fun to just watch and he's obviously easy to point

864
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: out with that hair, and I like, I just enjoy

865
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Spurs basketball for a moment, which is crazy to see.

866
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was good in the in the Bucks win

867
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: too in the last game, so you know, he didn't

868
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: he didn't score like nearly twenty points, but he was

869
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: put up an eight and seven and he was very

870
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: positive when he was out there with that second unit

871
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: and was a big reason why they sort of blew

872
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: out the Bucks. Spurs be in the Spurs Final one

873
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: here guys. Undrafted guard Terrence Davis made the most of

874
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: his first NBA start last night, twenty three points eleven

875
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: boards to help the banged up Raptors escape with the

876
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: one to twelve, one ten overtime win in Charlotte. So

877
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: true or false, Messigerie Bobby Webster and the Raptors have

878
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: found another gem in Terence Davis the second.

879
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: He was great last night. Sure put that uncut gem

880
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: on the shelf. I thought we were gonna see our

881
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: very first Terry versus Terry fight at the end of

882
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: that right, Terrence Davis was this Terry was here. Yeah,

883
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: but the closing lineup for the Raptors like that could

884
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: have been a garbage time lineup. I saw Blake Murphy

885
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: tweeting not any different, but what a crazy game this was.

886
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: To see it go from the Raptors blow a double

887
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: digit lead to suddenly the Hornets blow a double digitally

888
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: and then we're in overtime. It seemed like every play

889
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: was either a turnover or a three pointer down the

890
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: stretch it and in overtime that was.

891
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because overtimes can be generally blowouts at times gets

892
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: out of hand or sluggish. There it is sluggish.

893
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: I used it.

894
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: No, I see, I've never said that. You're right, but

895
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: this was entertaining. It was it was. It was back

896
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: and forth, and I don't even know it should have

897
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: probably never been in overtime. In the first Baca holding

898
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: on to PJ. Washington's jersey there and then getting called

899
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: for it before the inbound so that was a free

900
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: shot for the Hornets.

901
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Then he made up for it in overtime he did

902
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: search and that I think is just shows like some

903
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: experience there is like he messed up, but it didn't

904
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: cost his team, but he forgot about it, went out

905
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: there and hit the big shot and then hit a

906
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: couple of free throws too, and just just his presence.

907
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know at the rim there, you know,

908
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: he's still a very effective to Terrent for guys. You know,

909
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: like I think when you go inside, you just know

910
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: Surgeres there. It's not quite as the shot locker he

911
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: was in his okay see days, but he knows how

912
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: to contest shots.

913
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: But what about Terrence Man, Yeah, he was great, he was.

914
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's a feel good story being undrafted and

915
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: then starting putting up numbers like that. He hit two

916
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: huge threes in overtime and yeah, I mean I didn't

917
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: know anything about them. Again, we're not college experts. He

918
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: played it all miss.

919
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: If John Hollinger was still a GM, he would have

920
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: went drafted, that's for sure. Every time that Terrence Doubts

921
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: has a good game, I see John Holland red tweet

922
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: saying how did this guy go undrafted? The world may

923
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: never know.

924
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: There was a people at Summer League. There's a story

925
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: on Summer League when he hit the floor and he

926
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: played for the for in that game. I forget what

927
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: day it was, but everybody afterwards he got a contract

928
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: offer from multiple teams. They're ready to sign him, and yeah,

929
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: you know, I've sat around a lot of people watching

930
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: games earlier this season and they say, who the heck

931
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: is that? But we're two months in and now the

932
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: fact that they're missing basically four rotation players for their

933
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: top rotation players, he is making his name known, and

934
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, sort of like Freddie van Vliet, he's going

935
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: to get a contract where he's going to bet on

936
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: himself hopefully and stick around the NBA for a long time.

937
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think you're right. I think it is

938
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: a little van Vliet like, cause he's a he appears

939
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: to be a pretty hard nosed defender. I saw Koc

940
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: talking about that. I guess he did that at all,

941
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: miss too. And he can score. You can get some

942
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: buckets for you and you pair those things together. You

943
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: got yourself be an NBA player when you play that

944
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: hard with a little chip on your shoulder like he

945
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: appeared to. And yeah, getting into it with Rosier there though. Yeah,

946
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: a very entertaining game. Raptor's hornets whould have thought all right?

947
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279
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Speaker 1: Top five times tom By, Top five, Top five, tom Buy,

976
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Speaker 1: Top Buying, Top five.

977
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 4: Tong By, top Pot top five.

978
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: Well, leally, what do you got?

979
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

980
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: Okay to mock. It's forty years since the three point

981
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: was introduced into the NBI, and the Athletic is releasing

982
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: several different articles about the impact of TAD and how

983
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: the shot has evolved and changed the game over time.

984
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: So I decided to look into it a little bit myself,

985
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: and look, this is not your typical top five. I'll

986
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: say that now, And is it now? Usually when we

987
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: do a top five, we just sort of find five

988
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: things and arbitrarily rank them and it comes down to opinion.

989
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and that's top five.

990
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I decided there has to be a less

991
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 3: subjective way of ranking the top five most important three

992
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: pointers in NBA history. So I devised a table with criteria,

993
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: and this would then tell us, based on science, the

994
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: most important three pointers in NBA history. So I've made

995
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: up what I call the Chris Ford Index, Chris Ford,

996
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: of course, being the first NBA player to hit a

997
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: three pointer. Okay, So these are the categories for the

998
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: most important three point is in NBA history. Time remaining

999
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: on the clock. You get three points if it's a

1000
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: zero zero zero, okay. You get two points if there's

1001
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: less than seven seconds, and one point if there's more

1002
00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:00,240
Speaker 3: than seven seconds. Shot difficulty. Was the shot tough point,

1003
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: a tough contested shot? Was it a right place at

1004
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: the right time type of shot? You get two points?

1005
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: Was it an uncontested look? You get one point. Game impact,

1006
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: three points for a championship win, two points for a

1007
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 3: series win. One point for a game win or extend,

1008
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: so maybe a game win or an overtime. Historical league impact,

1009
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: this is very important.

1010
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Here.

1011
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: Three points for an all time NBA defining moment. Two

1012
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: points for a biggest moment in team slash franchise history.

1013
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: One point for irrelevant to that season only, okay, and

1014
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: then memorability. Three points for a I Remember where I

1015
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: was moment. Two points for a one that I still

1016
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: remember clearly. One point for one that I have to

1017
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: think about.

1018
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, great, no subjective criteria.

1019
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: Great. So I'm just going to give you the three

1020
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: pointers and then we'll see what the science tells us

1021
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 3: at the end.

1022
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.

1023
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: Okay, let's start. Where do you want to start? Let's

1024
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: start here. Kyrie Irving Game seven, twenty sixteen NBA Finals,

1025
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: Cleveland Golden State scores tied, with fifty three seconds remaining,

1026
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: Kyrie rises up on Steph Curry hits a deep three

1027
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: calves go on to win that game, the championship and

1028
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: complete the never before seen three one comeback in the

1029
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: NBA Finals. Now do you want me to break it down?

1030
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Now we have to read think you should bring it?

1031
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's have a look at it there. Let's

1032
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: break it down. Time remaining, it only gets one point, yeah,

1033
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: forty seconds or fifty three seconds when he hits that. Yeah,

1034
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: shot difficulty, it was contested, it was a tough shot.

1035
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: He basically invited the defense. So he gets three points

1036
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: to that game impact, championship win. That was the championship

1037
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: winning shot. Really, I mean, I know Lebron scored one

1038
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: more point after that, but that won them the championship.

1039
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Historical league impact three points, Yeah, historical league impact, all

1040
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: time NBA defining moment. I mean, the Calves come back

1041
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: from three to one down. Kyrie hits the shot, so

1042
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: he gets three points. Ten right now, memorability. I remember

1043
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: where I was. I was on the couch to watching that.

1044
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: So but more about was there? Trey was there? But no,

1045
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm for that.

1046
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: It's the last coast gaming.

1047
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: Sure you're away game seven of the finals. I'll stay

1048
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: up for that one. So he scored a total of

1049
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: thirteen points.

1050
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: That's a good score, basically picking up threes across the board, except.

1051
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: That first exactly Yeah, okay, Ray Allen, Game six, twenty thirteen,

1052
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Miami, it's in overtime, heat down three. No,

1053
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: it's not in overtime. Sorry, sorry, it's it's regulation. The

1054
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: heat down three. Lebron James rises up for a shot,

1055
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 3: clanks it off. Chris Bosh is there to corral the rebound,

1056
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: quickly shuffles it to Ray Allen, who puts up a three,

1057
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: knocks it in. He'd go on to win the game

1058
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 3: in overtime and force at game seven before eventually winning

1059
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: the championship.

1060
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: So how many points are you.

1061
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: Gonna time remaining? There's more than more. Wasn't a zero

1062
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: point zero zero Remember it was like five point two

1063
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: last play defense, That's right, So I only gets two

1064
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: points for that shot. Difficulty, Now, this one was a

1065
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: tough one. This was a tough one. Was it a

1066
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: right place at the right time or was it a

1067
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: tough contested shot? I went for a tough contested shot

1068
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: because Tony Parker is right there, even though he wasn't

1069
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: really the right place at the right time because it

1070
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: wasn't his play.

1071
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but he does the whole back up into

1072
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: the exactly exactly practiced it.

1073
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 4: I can't believe the difficulty is up for grabs on this.

1074
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: There were sprinting backwards.

1075
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was in the right place at the

1076
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: right time because it was Lebron's shot, you know. That's

1077
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 3: that's see, this is where the science is going to start.

1078
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: He gets he gets three points to that. I gave

1079
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: him that. I gave him the tough tested shot. Okay,

1080
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: game impact, now this is tough because the game impact.

1081
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: He only extended the game, it's what the science says.

1082
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Extended the game. But he saved a title, I know.

1083
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: But the thing was they still had to go on

1084
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: and win another game. Yeah, they had to win that

1085
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: game and then they had to go on to win

1086
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: the game again. I'm just I've just tried to make

1087
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: it so that we would we would have some sort

1088
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: of evidence to show how important if he misses that shot,

1089
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: they lose the championship. But it's not like like it's

1090
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: not like it was his fault that they lost the championship.

1091
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, he didn't he didn't have

1092
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: the shot that that lost them the championip. Anyway, historical

1093
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: league impact, I think this was an all time defining moment.

1094
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: We remember that.

1095
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's a defining yeah, and memorability. I

1096
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: also gave it a three. I remember I was watching

1097
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: that one.

1098
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the weirdest category.

1099
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: Wow of the couch. All right, all right, now it

1100
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: gets a bit juicy gear. Game six, nineteen ninety three

1101
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, Chicago Bulls lead the Suns three to two. However,

1102
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: Phoenix is leading the game ninety six ninety eight with

1103
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: fourteen seconds remaining. Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan has the only

1104
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: is the only player for the Bulls who scored in

1105
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 3: that fourth quarter nine points. They gave up an eight

1106
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: point lead going into the third quarter, so you figure

1107
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's going to get the ball, right. He gets

1108
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: the ball, but he passes off to Scotty Pippin who

1109
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: drives inside to horror s Grant, who finds John Paxson

1110
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: wide open, knocks down a three with three point nine

1111
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: seconds remaining. Bulls get a stop at the other end

1112
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: and go on to win. So let's break that one

1113
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 3: down time remaining less than seven seconds three point nine seconds,

1114
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: so he gets two points for that shot. Difficulty. Was

1115
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: he in the right place at the right time or

1116
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: was it an uncontested open? Look? I went with uncontested

1117
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: game impact Championship win, Championship win, no doubt about it.

1118
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: That's right, historical league impact, all time defining moment.

1119
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 4: The balls one of their three picks, and John packs

1120
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: and remains balls exactly to this day. If he misses

1121
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 4: that shot, does go packs never happened and really makes

1122
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 4: you think the thing.

1123
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: Is what Jordan, what Jordan achieved by by winning that

1124
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: championship with something that magic Larry and Isaiah couldn't do

1125
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 3: before him, That's right. Yeah, memorability, Well, yeah, you didn't

1126
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: watch this one, no, see, I mean I had to

1127
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: I had to get this one home, you know, the

1128
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: next day.

1129
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: So one point.

1130
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: Maybe No, I gave it too. I too because I

1131
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: think I.

1132
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: Remember reason, reason, some.

1133
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: Reason I had that as a three. But well, I

1134
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: do remember where I was when I saw it, but

1135
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 3: it just wasn't live because I was in Australia first.

1136
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: I remember I saw it where I'm the couch, great

1137
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: spot to a lot of things happen. Alright, alright, alright, no, no,

1138
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: there's a few more.

1139
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: It's only three.

1140
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: You've put more work into this top five than you

1141
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: have ever put into the combined the rest.

1142
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: Of the show. Well, like I say, this is not

1143
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: my opinion, this is like side.

1144
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: How many more do you have?

1145
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: A few?

1146
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: Split them up?

1147
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: Do some more tomorrow? Well, okay, so let's have a

1148
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: look at this one game five, two thousand and five

1149
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, San Antonio Detroit series, tied to two, Spurs

1150
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: down two with nine point four seconds remaining. Robert already

1151
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: bounds to the ball and somehow it gets left wide open.

1152
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: He's had an incredible game, knocks down a three, Spurs

1153
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: going to win the game and the championship. But in

1154
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: seven games, So let's break it down. It was huge

1155
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: in the context of the game.

1156
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: No one remembers their series unfortunately, so memorability.

1157
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 3: Memorability. I gave it a two. I still remember it clearly.

1158
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: It's not one you have to think about. I mean,

1159
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: it's just it's Robert Orrin.

1160
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: You know.

1161
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: Historical league impact though he only gets a one because

1162
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: it was only relevant to that season only the spurs

1163
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: of one multiple, you know, So that's it game impact.

1164
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: I mean he won the game. He won the game.

1165
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: Shot difficulty. Did give this one a right place at

1166
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: the right time or an uncontested open Look.

1167
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand this category, but anyways, Yeah, well, because

1168
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, like like it seems to be the same classification.

1169
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not, because it depends if that

1170
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: play was designed for you or not, you know, like

1171
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: Ray Allen's wasn't designed for him, you know. Uh. And

1172
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 3: time remaining. He only gets a two for that one

1173
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 3: as well, because there.

1174
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: Was it was the final verdict though on plays right

1175
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 4: time versus.

1176
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: I gave it a two. I gave it a two.

1177
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: I gave it a right place right time. Yeah, he

1178
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: had a credit incredible game though. Twenty one points.

1179
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: That's the lefty dunk one yes, yes, it was.

1180
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: What's the more memorable three? I guess so these are

1181
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: all finals?

1182
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what about against the King so Ori against

1183
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: the Kings. Let's break it down.

1184
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: It's the final, one.

1185
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: Time remaining zero point zero zero on the clock, so he.

1186
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: Gets three point billion points.

1187
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: Shot difficulty. Well, this is clearly a right place at

1188
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: the right time, clearly even because he had guys coming

1189
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: at him. So it wasn't uncontested there. Game impact well, uh,

1190
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: it was only a game win. It wasn't a series win.

1191
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't a championship wins. Only gets one point for

1192
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: that historical league impact again relevant to that season, only

1193
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: really for the Lakers. I mean they'd won two championships

1194
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: already and they would come back and beat the Kings

1195
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: in that series. And then memorability. I mean we all

1196
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: remember that one. Not necessarily where you were at the time,

1197
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: but I was carrying.

1198
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: A couch carrying it. Yes, I looked into an appartement

1199
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: that was playing the game.

1200
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: Maybe we were yelling are Yeah, so that was cause

1201
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 3: of nine play. Yeah. So the only other, the only

1202
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 3: other one I had, Well, I've got the John Stockton

1203
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: one in there against the against the Rockets, but then

1204
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: I've only got one man who has two entries for

1205
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: the price of one, as Damian Lillard. I couldn't split

1206
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: his two. But of course they both came in the

1207
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 3: first round. But they were so identical for so many reasons,

1208
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: so I put them together. Time remaining both times zero

1209
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: point zero maximum three points six shot difficulty both of them,

1210
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: I mean thirty seven feet out against the Thunder and

1211
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: against the Rockets, I mean fading away out, knocked it

1212
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: in there the game impact he won the game zero's

1213
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: wins both times gets two points. Now historical league impact

1214
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: is is for this one because the Blazers are champions.

1215
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: They've been champions, so I think. And Lillard it was

1216
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: only first round both times, so he only get to one.

1217
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: He only get to one point of that memorability, I

1218
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: mean two, I gave him two.

1219
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: You have to.

1220
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: I don't remember where I was. I don't remember I was.

1221
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember who it.

1222
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: Was for the Rockets one and night. I was asleep

1223
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: for the one against the Thunders.

1224
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: Alright, so final scores, why do we come this far?

1225
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: We might as well hear the final scorers? What is

1226
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: the most memorable shot?

1227
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: Then, with thirteen points, the most memorable three pointer in

1228
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: NBA history goes to Kyrie.

1229
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: What's the first.

1230
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: Well, I thought ray Allen was gonna win. I thought

1231
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: ray Allen was going to win.

1232
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: That's why we have science.

1233
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Science is always right. Ray Allen finished

1234
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 3: with twelve twelve points.

1235
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: So Hyrie's shot Game seven versus the Warriors is the

1236
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: most memorable three.

1237
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Point, most important, most impactful three pointer in NBA history.

1238
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: Incredible. That was I think least top five. Let's get

1239
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: to Tray's tweeted the night.

1240
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Tweet out the night. Wow.

1241
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: Trey will now take us through every tweet from last

1242
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: night in the world. I don't want this to be subjective.

1243
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: You know, I'm about fourteen point rubric to talk about

1244
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 4: every NBA tweet last night. I can't believe this. I've

1245
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: actually got two tweets.

1246
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1247
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 4: The first one it's a quickie. It's a tip of

1248
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: the big Green cap to Master Chieve and Happy Wedge,

1249
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: who went on the court with a no dunk's sign

1250
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: last night. They said, still smiling in Beantown even after

1251
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 4: a bad loss. They got Boston Beantown boys on the sign.

1252
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: They got no dunks. Looks great. Shout out to you, chieve,

1253
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: You're the goat of sending in signs. It's official. But

1254
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 4: the real tweet of the night comes from Miles Brown

1255
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 4: and dot Brown on Twitter. He says, in a poll

1256
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: who would be the best in today's NBA? Who would

1257
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: be the best? Now? Larry Bird, a Keem Elijauan or

1258
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: Alan Iverson. I was gonna say, we could debate this,

1259
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: but we just heard about every three pointer that's ever

1260
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 4: been made in the NBA, So instead I'll just ask

1261
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: you who do you think is leading this poll? What

1262
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 4: do you think the order is on this? Bird and Iverson?

1263
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Iverson because he's the most recent and

1264
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: most popular with those who are probably voting.

1265
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also important.

1266
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important. I also think peoples, I'm not saying

1267
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: my opinion. People's mind might go to, well, Akimahligewent, a

1268
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: big guy, obviously doing work in the post, not as

1269
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: important in today's game, which I, by the way, think

1270
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: he would absolutely dominate today's game. And then Larry Legend.

1271
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: People might go, ah, maybe not the most athletic guy

1272
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: of all time, obviously hall of famer, but could he

1273
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: hang with the athletes in today's game. I also think

1274
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: absolutely could and he would kill him. So yeah, I'm

1275
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna agree with the guys that I think.

1276
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: The poll says Iverson Iverson tasting.

1277
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Iverson. He's the Twitter the most popular player

1278
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: on Twitter. That's that's why I would take him, all right, glad?

1279
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: I asked the question with twenty five point six percent

1280
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: of the vote in third place, Alan.

1281
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: I good, Yes, really good.

1282
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: Thirty point eight percent of the vote in second place,

1283
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Hakeim Elijah Wan okay, So and that means Larry Bird

1284
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: taking it home forty three point five percent.

1285
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: Barely evenly split for uh, it's not bad. Yeah on Twitter.

1286
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: As far as the Twitter poll goes, it's great. I

1287
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: saw that. I'm glad. I'm glad. I didn't click on

1288
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: it because I saw it the poll last night, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't follow up in and see who was voting,

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Speaker 1: So that's good. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: Very quickly, my vote was where were Larry Bird?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I picked Larry Bird because I mean, the guy was

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Speaker 4: a great three point shooter, despite the fact that his

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Speaker 4: career three point percentage isn't super high. But if he

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Speaker 4: were playing in twenty twenty, he would have been practicing

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Speaker 4: shooting threes from the second he learned how to shoot

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Speaker 4: a basketball. So I mean, would Larry Bird be a

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Speaker 4: better Luka Doncic? Would they be? I mean there's similar

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Speaker 4: sort of players, you know, like a big, tall ball,

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Speaker 4: excellent passer, can hit from outside, can score inside. So

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Speaker 4: I think Luca dominating the league this year definitely helps

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Speaker 4: Larry Bird's case on this pole's.

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Speaker 1: Fair good poll. Yeah, great tweets, love it, fun show here,

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Speaker 1: let's get to pick them. Results from Wednesday night. Hey,

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Speaker 1: high fives to everybody here, high five, pass around passed

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Speaker 1: that the task. There we go, Yeah, we go back dog.

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Speaker 1: We all took the Nuggets in Dallas. Dallas was favored

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Speaker 1: by three and a half. Maybe that line was as

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Speaker 1: big as it was because, yeah, Mavericks were without Porzingis,

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Speaker 1: but the Nuggets were without Paul Mills, Sap and Will Barton.

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Speaker 1: But Denver got the win money line, win baby, So

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Speaker 1: everybody picks up the w lee or four and one.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, Trey and myself were three and two.

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Speaker 1: Tasks two and three.

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Speaker 2: Tonight's game, Big one. Russell Westbrook goes back to Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City for the first time, Houston at OKC second part

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Speaker 2: of the TNT doubleheader. The line is pretty close. Houston

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Speaker 2: is favored by two and a half on the road

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lee, you've been talking up this uh potential playoff

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Speaker 1: matchup later down the line between the Rockets and the Thunders,

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Speaker 1: So why don't you get it started? Okay, See favored

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Speaker 1: by two and a half, he said, lye or test.

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Speaker 2: No, sorry, Yeah, Houston's right.

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Speaker 1: I had that my note, Trumps's favorite Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been on the on the thunder Wagon light Lee,

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Speaker 1: and I'll I'll continue to rot it.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the thunder.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's tough because Houston playing last night in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Westbrook didn't.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, last road didn't.

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Speaker 3: You're right?

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Speaker 1: Good point, hardhead. Oh I thought my uh, my premonition

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Speaker 1: was gonna come true there after that first quarter in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta last night.

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Speaker 4: Well up, he didn't miss one hundred thousand shots. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got the e what do you have.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the first quarter? Like twenty two

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Speaker 1: somebody three, but didn't come close to the seventy plus

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Speaker 1: that I predicted. But I'm gonna go with Lee. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see plus two and a half.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I thought okay See was his favorite, so yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take that.

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Speaker 4: I thought Houston was okay see, he was favorite as well,

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Speaker 4: and I was going, okay see. Even in that case,

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Speaker 4: they're a little bit pressure. They're playing at home. They

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Speaker 4: say it's gonna be a big game for the thunder

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Speaker 4: gim me okay.

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Speaker 2: See, yeah, I'll take it. Okay, all right, we might.

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Speaker 4: Be having another round of high five tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: What happens if we're all wrong? What do we do?

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Speaker 1: Uh tomorrow in the office.

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Speaker 4: If we're all wrong with We'll do the lee ls

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Speaker 4: double middle fingers.

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Speaker 3: Down to each other.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, make sure you check out the other

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Speaker 1: of your favorite athletic reporters. That's it for us today,

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Speaker 1: Well catching tomorrow with.

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about three pointers. I just thought of anough.

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Speaker 3: Wa A couple more. I didn't make the cut. We

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Speaker 3: praise the day people.

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Speaker 2: Every day. We happy every minute.

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Speaker 5: It's been so long that you're no onna.

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Speaker 2: Play for It happened already.

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