1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: We're back with pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: That means football is near. Fred, It's great to see 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: your face again. It's great to speak with you as always. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: How are you, Jack Pit is always good to see you. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Man. 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: I told you I was digging the new beard. Look, Man, 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: keep rocking it. I'm good. But if I'm near, it's 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: either football it's near, or the Pivot podcast. It's somewhere near. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Because they work the heck out of me. So if 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: the Jaguars worked me that way, I'll be making that 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: good old Tony forselling money, because I know Tony's Tony's 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: been working hard this off season and our conversations, man, 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: he said he's back in the grind. It feels like, 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: you know, ninety five ninety six to him, you know, 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: when Coach Coughlin had those crazy long tour days and 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: you're in the building all day. That's the information that 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: I got from Tony, which I love and admire, you know, 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: his dedication and commitment to the team in community and 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: trying to build a winning, you know, a program. So 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: I say all that to say a lot of things 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: happen behind the scenes that people don't. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Know about And that was my poor analogy of. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: Comparing the pivot work to if I were working for 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: the Jaguars in the building. 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: But I try it. 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: It' not bad, Fred, you know, it's it's been a 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: long time since we've spoken with you. So what have 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: you I mean, I know that I see your pivot 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: all the time, like it's out there everywhere. It's blowing up. 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: We talked about this last year. I mean, it's all 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: it never ends. But what have you found when you're 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: not doing. 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: The pivot this offseason? What have you been doing with 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: your downtime? 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, because I can't get consistent in golf enough, 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: I kind of stay away from the golf course. I 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: probably played three times in the last three years, so 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: that that part is kind of I disliked that part. 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: But I found a new hobby. It's as expensive as 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: as golf, if you want to put that into it. 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm about twenty grand in in the last 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: eight months. It's collecting. You should see my Pokemon collection. 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: The guys joke on me, but I have. 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: A that's yeah, like cards, the cards. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm organizing my stuff now, Like I got cards 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: all over my office, which is why you know, it 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: took me a little time to set up my stuff. 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: Usually I'm ready for you, but when I came in 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: my office, I'm like, where am I going to put 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: my laptop so we can get a good shot. 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: And I got. 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: I got a thousand Pokemon cards right here on the 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: on the desk, summer sleeved up. The little Charmander right here, 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: you know, the Carmander little tars art, which is my 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: favorite Pokemon. You know, well, I need shadowless old school, 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: like a vintage first edition, but that's like two hundred grand, 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: so I won't be getting that one anytime soon. 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: No, graded and selling them? 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: Is that the whole idea? No, no, no, no no. 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm a grade a lot of the big stuff and 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: just sit on it, collect it, like the vintage ones. 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: I do love the vintage look, Pokemon's first editions, base sets, 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: all the early packs, U Fossil Jungle, yeah, black and white, 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. But no a lot of stuff 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: because my son's collected them before I knew anything about it. 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: I would just get them stuff. 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: And I came across the three four boxes that I 68 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: bought them that I was sitting on for them, and 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, and then the price differences 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: in what's what I paid versus what they're worth. Now, 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy. So it's actually an asset 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: class to some extent, much like trading football cards and art, know, 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: all that other stuff that people sort of you know, 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: develop a bad habit for, kind of like trading Pokemon cards. 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: So I'm guilty. 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Fred, I've been talking to you. 77 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I've known you for what thirteen years now, I know 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: it's totally unexpected. I'm never in my right mind would 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: have ever thought I would have had a conversation with 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: you about Pokemon cards me either. 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: But it's that or either you know, Pivot, Pivot, performance Energy, 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: or new Energy, right, I mean I can we can 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: talk about a few things. Uh, but yeah, that's what 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: I've been doing this, you know, this off season, traveling 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: a lot with the show, checking in on the Jacks, 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, trying to trade close attention to develop developing 87 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: things there Sporting Jacks. You know, we kicked off our 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: season h first ever women's soccer club in the city 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: of Jacksonville, So that was exciting. 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: What else? What else? 91 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: Again, the energy ain't moving that and kind of getting 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: it in different doors and spaces. 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: But this is what you've built. This is what you've 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: been building towards. Like you keep building and adding things. 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: This is this. Yeah, this is what you want to do. 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: I mean, because what you don't want to do is 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: become bored complacent, you know, because that lead to depression, 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: it leads to being broke, and then you're in that 99 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: eighty seven percent of the guys that are you know, 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: divorced or broke or have file bankruptcy. Doesn't necessarily mean 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: you're broke, but the file bankruptcy within three years of retirement. 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: And I've always said I never wanted to be in 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: that uh, you know, in that window and that statistic. 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: So just keep me going, man, I just find, you know, myself. 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: Just continue to try to build, continue to try to 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: leverage relationships and staying close, you know, to the organization 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: that helps a ton because you know they've been good 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: to me over the years throughout my career as well 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: as in retirement. 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Man. So you know it's still growing here in this space. 111 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: It feels good. 112 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: Bret Taylor with us, proud of the Jaguars running back. 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little football, shall we? 114 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: Fred I love it. But this is. 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: Also why I love you too, because we can talk 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: about all these other things and that's that's fun. 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: But it is game week. 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: It is preseason week one. 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers are in. 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Town, and you know what what is you think the 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: for head coach Liam Cohen and his staff. He said 122 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: it the other day, it's a challenge to figure out 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: playing time in preseason week one. He's never had to 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: really make that decision before. 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: But he kind of wants to. 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: See some of the guys because he needs to see 127 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: them in the offense and the defensive scheme. But he 128 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: got a long way into the regular season. 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: What's the balance? 130 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: You know, times have changed so much and it's it's 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: surprising to see where we are right. You know, back 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: in the day, we were able to go from you know, 133 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: ninety man to seventy something, you know, to sixty something 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: down til you get to fifty three, forty five and 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: a play and then you know your your practice squads. 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: Things are different now you don't have to cut do 137 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: incremental cuts. You can go from ninety to what you 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: need for the season. And not only that, time on 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: field has changed. Time and pads have changed. They have this, 140 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: you know, due to a certain research, you know, scientific reasons. 141 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: They say, oh, we have to give guys x amount 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: of rest. They can only be in pads X amount 143 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: of days. What that means is we're not seeing everyone 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: as much as we want to just throughout the practice week. 145 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: You know, you know what you're gonna get from your 146 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: veteran guys. 147 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: But they still have to get reps to knock off 148 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: the rusts from the offseason and just really get a 149 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: feel and gather their confidence level to know that they're 150 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: ready to go into the season the best that they 151 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: can because they got to get acclimated, right. So that's 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: why the Vets need rest, I mean reps, I'm sorry. 153 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: But the younger guys, the guys draft, the free agent 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: guys that you bring in, the guys that you hope 155 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: to give an opportunity to get out there and be 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: contribute big for the team. Uh, their reps are are 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: thin because you got to share those reps and spread 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: them around. But it's not just it's not enough time 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: and practice compared to you know, how we were able 160 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: to go out there and practice for hours. It wasn't 161 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: a cap. It wasn't a cap to how many padded 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: days that you have. But now under this last CBA, uh, 163 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: there is a cap the last two cbas actually uh, 164 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: they maintain that cap. 165 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's tough. It's gonna be tough on the coaches. 166 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: Guys are gonna have to get out there and do 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: the best they can or what they have. You know, 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: you take a guy like Travis Hunter, who who has security, 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: you know, he wants to get out there and to 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: do the best he cans for other reasons, to prove 171 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: to everyone that he can do what he was drafted 172 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: to do. 173 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: But that's the unique situation in itself. 174 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: But the other guys JP, you know, it's gonna be 175 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: interesting to see how their reps coming to play. Like 176 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: a Diami Brown, for example, he should get a ton 177 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: of reps. A guy who has tremendous upside, who's done 178 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: well in camp. The reason they brought him in because 179 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: he has potential to go out there and create that 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: three man receiving corps that you need to go terrorize defenses. 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: And so many other guys that they got to take 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: a peak at. 183 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Pret Taylor with us. Let's get in the running back room. Travis, 184 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: ETN and Tank Bigsby listed as co starters in the 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: first depth chart. I don't know if you're a depth 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: chart watcher or you know, but that's what it is. 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: But the three rookies have all had moments of flash 188 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and training camp. The Tuton had a hamstring issue early 189 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: trying to really fully work his way back, but Leaquinn 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Allen Jr. Is not scared of contact. J Quinnon Jackson, 191 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the undrafted guy, is two hundred and thirty three pounds 192 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: and when he gets in the open field, I don't 193 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: know anybody wants to get in front of him. This 194 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: seems like a really competitive running back room. 195 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: That's what you need. That's what I love. 196 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: That's what I always try to bring to our running 197 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: back rooms. You know, regardless of the threat that the 198 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: team served me with every year when we were drafted 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: running back or we would bring some free agency and 200 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do. And I've learned that 201 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: is healthy, you know. I've learned that. You know, the 202 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: guys love each other. The guys understand the business, and 203 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: there's no animosity, you know, towards each other. You just 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: won't work, you know, you want to come in learn, 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: teach each other and just go to work and the 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: best man is gonna win. The co starter, depth chart stuff, 207 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: throw it out the window, that doesn't matter, you know, 208 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: running back by committee if they call it co star, 209 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. I think they have 210 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: two guys that can get it done. Obviously they drafted 211 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: a few others that they hope they can depend on. 212 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: You also have guys that you want to be able 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: to play special teams, and usually the running back position 214 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: is a position they poached from for special teams because 215 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: those guys are fast, they're smart, you know, they're elusive, 216 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: they can get down and they can make some plays. 217 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: They take me back to one of my guys who 218 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: was undrafted, but they reserved the special team a spot 219 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: for a player every year on the Jack del Rio 220 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 3: and he went down and he earned a position in 221 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: the room that was about seven or eight deep. I'm 222 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: talking about Montel Owens who turned out with Montel getting 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: ten plus years or. 224 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: Something like that. Correct. 225 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean it's about competing, but it's also 226 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: about working hard, putting your stuff on tape, realizing that 227 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: the opportunity is lies in special teams. 228 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: You know, you want to be on a rock you 229 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: won't fulfill your dreams. 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: But you also have to understand that there are thirty 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: one other teams around the NFL. So if Jacksonville isn't 232 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: the place, leave it on tape and maybe you'll getting 233 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: ather opportunity somewhere else. 234 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Fred, we're gonna wrap with us today. How do you 235 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: want to see Travis Hunter on Saturday Night? And how 236 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: much do you want to see him play? 237 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: I want to see him for the excitement for the 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: fan base, you know, running through the tunnel, you know, 239 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: his first catch, I know they'll go crazy as if 240 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: it's a Monday Night a versus the chiefs ort somebody 241 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: like that, or maybe like a playoff game versus the Titans. 242 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: They're gonna go crazy when he whenever he catches the ball, 243 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: or whenever he knocks down the pass and gets the 244 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: PBu you know, or even an interception. But that's all 245 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: wishful thinking. In the preseason. I'm hoping that he gets in, 246 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, makes a quick appearance, and then gets out, 247 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: you know, because we spoke. 248 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: About it on the podcast. You know. 249 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the more you play, the more you you. 250 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: Risk injury. 251 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent injury proven game, right and you're 252 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: gonna play on offense x amount of plays, you gotta 253 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: play on defense x amount of plays. It increases those 254 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: chances for injury, and obviously we don't want to see that, 255 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: but we know that's a part of the game, you know. 256 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: And the big question mark is how much can he do? 257 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: We know he can play both ways, you know, and 258 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: how much can he play both ways? Can he go 259 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: out there and give you sixty solid plays on offense, 260 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: which is what's going to be required as the number two, 261 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: well not a number two, but as a starting receiver, 262 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: and then turn around and give you twenty five thirty 263 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: in special situations on defense, you know where sometimes you 264 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: might have to run up and tackle a Derrick Henry 265 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: or a Jonathan Taylor. You know you're gonna see them twice. 266 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: And can that frame hold up when it's time to 267 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: go out there and tackle. Are they saying be smart? 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: Are they saying just get in the way and don't tackle? 269 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: You know, we paid you to come and defend receivers 270 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: and get interceptions and get us the ball back. So 271 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: it's it's so much surrounding such a great player. Talking 272 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: to Jalen Ramsey the other day in Pittsburgh while doing 273 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh camp during our training camp tour, Jalen said, hey, 274 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: he is special, and this is coming from Jalen Ramsey. 275 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: He said, he is so special, but he can be 276 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame special if they kept him at a dB. 277 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: Only it's like, oh h right. 278 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: But you know to to say, he's like, he's a 279 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: good receiver, but he's no one I'm gonna lose sleep over. 280 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: You know, he's like, he's not a. 281 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase yet he hadn't showed him to be that 282 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: he likes Jamar, not that I'll lose sleepover. And these 283 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: are his words, not that I'll lose sleep over Jamar. 284 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: But I know I got to bring all my bags 285 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: to the stadium. But he doesn't feel that way to 286 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: see Travis at receiver. But on the flip side, he 287 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: believes Travis is is a is. 288 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: An elite corner back, one that is generational. 289 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: So you know, we open up by saying Liam has 290 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: a big decision to make to kind of see how 291 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: the playing time is going to go. That's even a 292 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: bigger decision because you know this is the reason you 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: went up there and you took him with a high 294 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: draft pick. 295 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: Bred great to catch up with you. We'll be on 296 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the stadium board Saturday night. Forward to that, and we'll 297 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: be on the Steve Radio as well. It's gonna be 298 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: being you for like all week and long. 299 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: Hey can I bring cars? All right? 300 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: You can bring anything you want. At least I'll have 301 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: that app where you have to catch him on the app. 302 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: You remember that, Well, was that Pokemon Go? You know what? Yeah, 303 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: I haven't really gotten into Pokemon Go. 304 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: So I remember we had a Pokemon Go event at 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: the stadium here. So it was like we opened the 306 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: stadium and like thousands of people came to catch these 307 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: rare pokemons on their phone. 308 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, people do that. 309 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: And I remember hearing people were getting run over because 310 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: they was walking with the head. Now you know, people 311 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: were trespassing and people's properties. 312 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would never be me. You know. My my 313 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: biggest enemy. That's what they all said too. By the way, 314 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: until I started doing, My biggest enemy is the Internet. 315 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: I buy I buy them already marked up and overpriced. 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: I don't have a plug, you know in these game 317 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: stops and Best Buys and you know the walmarts where 318 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: I can get them at retail, So I have to 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: you know, get them and build these collections and yeah, yeah, 320 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: but you know, I caught you off guard with that one, 321 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: and everybody else that's listening surprise. 322 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Thanks Fred, I'll see your brother.