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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one

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Speaker 1: health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every

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Speaker 1: one of you that come back every week to listen, learn,

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Speaker 1: and grow Now. Last month we put out an episode,

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Speaker 1: a special one with my friend Lewis House, where we

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Speaker 1: dived into relationships. We talked about whether it was possible

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Speaker 1: whether you could really truly know someone deeply with very

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Speaker 1: little time with them. Now this month we talked about

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Speaker 1: another fascinating topic. Maybe you grew up with some thoughts

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Speaker 1: around money, like money is the root of all evil,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you grew up with a thought that money

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Now we had a really fascinating conversation about

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Speaker 1: whether you can have money and be spiritual, whether you

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Speaker 1: can be doing good in the world and doing good

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Speaker 1: for yourself. If you're someone who's ever been in that

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Speaker 1: dilemma or been in that challenge, or even if I

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Speaker 1: had some complicated relationship with money, I think this episode

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Speaker 1: is going to be huge for you, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you listen to this one share it with a friend too.

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Speaker 1: I think we have so many issues around a mindset

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Speaker 1: around money, which creates so many issues in our life

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Speaker 1: with money. I hope you enjoy it. Me and Jay

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Speaker 1: are here and a year ago, Jay and I were

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Speaker 1: having conversations and we said, wouldn't they be interesting if

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Speaker 1: we do a new series where Jay's got one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest shows in the world. I've been doing my

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Speaker 1: it could come together and do a different topic, a

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Speaker 1: different theme, a different style of conversation where we're typically

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Speaker 1: interviewing other people. And I said, let's create something where

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Speaker 1: it's like awkward conversations or awkward therapy right where neither

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Speaker 1: of us are therapists, but Jay has this incredible background

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Speaker 1: from being a monk and really being a meditator for

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Speaker 1: high level. And we said, what if we could bring

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Speaker 1: our real world experience from these different perspectives come together

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Speaker 1: and answer kind of challenging questions that we get a

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Speaker 1: lot from our different audiences. And so we're creating this

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Speaker 1: is part one of Awkward Therapy, and we've been trying

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Speaker 1: to make this happen for a year. Now we're finally here.

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Speaker 1: So what's the first question that we are going to answer,

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Speaker 1: saying that the thing I love about this is we

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Speaker 1: And so for those of you that don't know me

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Speaker 1: and Lewis always make sure that we see to that

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Speaker 1: at least once a month to have dinner together, go

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Speaker 1: on a hike, hang out, and that will inevitably turn

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Speaker 1: into this it's four hour conversation, conversation about life. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we just thought, how cool would it be to

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Speaker 1: have those conversations that are uncomfortable, that are pressing on

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Speaker 1: the side of like, oh, that feels really awkward and

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Speaker 1: they don't have a place to say it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know, these these conversations that it's just like, how

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Speaker 1: can we create a safe environment to have open conversations

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Speaker 1: How can we just put these things out there and

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Speaker 1: There's no right or wrong. But we're going to come

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Speaker 1: So this is Awkward Therapy, Part one, and the first

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Speaker 1: be able to facilitate that. I'm still building that bridge

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Speaker 1: two people's deeper selves. And the first thing that always

435
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: humbles me and grounds me is I've got a lot

436
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: of work to do. There's so much suffering in pain

437
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: in the world. There is so much unrest in the world,

438
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: there is so much trauma in the world. So we've

439
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. So all the awards

440
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: and the views they give you confidence that you're going

441
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: in the right direction, but you will know you're far

442
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: away from the destination. That's one thing. I think. The

443
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Speaker 1: second thing that really helps me is being around still

444
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: spending time with my monk teachers who have very different

445
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: vision as to what is valuable in life. Yeah, because

446
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: they don't care about they don't care about material possessions

447
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: or money, and they don't care and so they're not

448
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: impressed by that. And so to be around people who

449
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: don't admire certain things helps you lose taste for it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when I'm around yeah, Marcus Realius.

451
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: The story is the Marcus Aurelius would walk through I

452
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: guess the town and just have someone saying you're just

453
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: a man when everyone was praising his name and kind

454
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: of bowing to him and saying, you're like this guy right. Yeah.

455
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: And it's having that accountability that you talked about people

456
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: in your life that admire you for who you are,

457
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: not for what you're creating in the world, right, for

458
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: just your kindness, your heart, you know, your humanness, not

459
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: the brand that you have built as an individual. I

460
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: think that's so important to have my girlfriend Martha over Christmas.

461
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: They did it. She's great. Over Christmas. They have this

462
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Speaker 1: like little game that their family does where you pick out,

463
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Speaker 1: like a word that's going to be your kind of

464
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Speaker 1: your word of intention for the year, and it's supposed

465
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Speaker 1: to be the word you need. Like everyone picks out

466
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Speaker 1: a word and you hang it in an ornament that

467
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: goes on like a tree, and then you look at

468
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: it again the next year, and then you're always reminded

469
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: of this word. And there's different words like confidence and

470
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: self worth and intention and all these things, and can

471
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Speaker 1: you guess what my word was? These are random, right,

472
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Speaker 1: so you pick you don't know what it is, you

473
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Speaker 1: pick it out at its random thing. Love. That's what

474
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. This humility. Oh it's humility. Yeah,

475
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: it's so, it's humility. So she picked it out and

476
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: you read it in front of life. There's like twenty

477
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Speaker 1: of her family that I was like, humility. They're all like, yes,

478
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: you need that, It's like no, but I was like,

479
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Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I'm pretty humble, but

480
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Speaker 1: any funny just said that, like when you're saying you're humble,

481
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: you need more of it. And I think the thing

482
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: is it's always a great reminder whether you're super humble

483
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: or not, it's a great reminder because life will bring

484
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Speaker 1: things to humble you if you do not consistently stay

485
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: humble in your life. There's injury, sickness, you know, attacks online,

486
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: or controversy or whatever might come up in the world,

487
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: and it's going to continue to come up. But as

488
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: long as you have the accountability and the right people

489
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: in your corner who call you out on your bs

490
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: and also celebrate you when you're doing good things as well,

491
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Speaker 1: I think that's important to have. I agree, I agree.

492
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: I think life is a journey designed to disconnect you

493
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: from your ego and dissolve your ego. If you think

494
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: about life as that is the journey, and so as

495
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: much as you willingly hand over of that journey, the

496
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: less it's being pulled away. And what I mean by

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00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: that is and it's it's what you said. When you

498
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Speaker 1: really think about any success you have or any impact

499
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: you've made, there is someone who has helped you get there,

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Speaker 1: directly or indirectly. So for you to say I am

501
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: self made, it isn't completely true because there was someone

502
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: indirectly or directly that helped you get there. So if

503
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: I say that, you know, people appreciate how I communicate

504
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: ideas today or certain ideas, I have to thank my

505
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: monk teachers who taught me that wisdom. Or if someone says,

506
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: hey Jay, let you really resilient or you've broken through

507
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges, but then you have to respect

508
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the people that tried to pull you down, and so

509
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: it gave me the opportunity to overcome adversity exactly. And

510
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: so either way, there have been people who have helped

511
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: you get to where you are, and so you can't

512
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Speaker 1: claim the ego of I did this all myself. And

513
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: I think there's also something to be said for humility

514
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: and receiving acknowledgment from others and to yourself, yeah, and

515
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: celebrating what you've also created. I love the acceptance award

516
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: of Snoop Dogg where he says something like, you know,

517
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: and I want to thank me for all the late nights,

518
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: all the early mornings, all the hard work, and I

519
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: thank me for never giving up on me. And I

520
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: think there is this over humility sometimes too, where people

521
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: are like, well, I'll be like, hey Jay, it was

522
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: so amazing what you did, and when people say it

523
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: was nothing I did. It wasn't me, you know, I

524
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: get to praise everyone else. I think there's a a

525
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: spiritual way to receive, yes, accomplishments and be humble in

526
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: your thank you, graceful in your thank you. Receive it

527
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: as well, because you are showing up in a big way,

528
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: you can be humble and also gracious in your confidence. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great point, and I completely

530
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Speaker 1: agree with you. I don't think it's again, it's never

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Speaker 1: either all. I think that's the point that whenever anyone

532
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: tries to make it is like should it be humble

533
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: or should it be confident? It's like be both? Should

534
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: I be successful or should it be spiritually? Be both? Like?

535
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: You can be both like, and we need to be

536
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: both because sometimes you are going to need to. I agree. Like,

537
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: when when you reject praise what happened or genuine acknowledgement,

538
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is you lose the opportunity for

539
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: someone else to express gratitude, to give, to give, you

540
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: block that ability for them to get You're robbing someone's gift. Yes,

541
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: and that's a no, no no. We'll talk about a

542
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: whole nother session on the law of attraction and the hustle. Yes,

543
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: but there's something to be you know. And people that

544
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: make money know how to receive because they receive money

545
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and there's a flow also, there's a flow to it.

546
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: They the ones who are really good, don't hoard it, right,

547
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: They let it in and they let it out. It's

548
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: like a cycle. And they're investing it and they're spending

549
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: on people and they're building things. And they don't say, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for money, don't give it to me

551
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: right now. It's the same thing, like you don't want

552
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: to block someone's acknowledgement or praise or opportunities and say

553
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for it. Yeah, like, take it in,

554
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: receive it, be graceful, and you can also be humble

555
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, use it as fuel. Don't

556
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: let it go to you ahead, right right, But you

557
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: use it as fuel. So if someone gives you praise,

558
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: you go, oh, thank you so much. That's amazing. Now

559
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that to work harder. Yeah, right,

560
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: But you're not just using it to go Okay, it's

561
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: going through my head now I'm going to feel that

562
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: you're using as fuel and so and I think that's

563
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: why it's everyone needs someone accountable to them. Yeah, whether

564
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: that's your partner, I know, Roddy, is that for you? Probably?

565
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Martha's that way for me where she will celebrate me,

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00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: but she also just gives me great feedback if I'm

567
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: if she thinks I'm being you know, over the top

568
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: on something, which I never try to be. But yeah,

569
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: it's just even just her, just her being there as

570
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: a reminder to stay humble. Yeah, you know, even if

571
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to say anything, it's just like, Okay,

572
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't need to be boasting anything. And having someone

573
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: that you are inspired by in your life that can

574
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: be that accountability is so key. I think having that community,

575
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: not everyone that just says you're incredible all the time,

576
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: but someone who keeps you grounded and also supports your growth. Yeah. Yeah,

577
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: for me. The interesting thing going back to our original

578
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: question is money and spirituality. Yeah, like, and going back

579
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: to in context of this is if you're proud of

580
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: something that can be taken away, it will always leave

581
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: you empty. So I mean proud of your money, correct,

582
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: if that's all you're proud of of what you've done,

583
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: and ultimately, whether you die with it or you lose

584
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: it before you die, it is going to go somewhere else.

585
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: It's going to be transferred, even if that's to your

586
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: children or to anyone else. Then that can be a

587
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: very scary place to live. It can be a fearful

588
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: place to live. But you can never lose the impact

589
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: you've made on people totally like that, you know. And

590
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what I've noticed, is that purpose is

591
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: the only thing that keeps giving to you because it's

592
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: such a like it's it's the only thing that can

593
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: give to you without needing anything else. And here's something

594
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: else that I'm thinking about. Please, there are a few

595
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: people that I know, and I think you know as well,

596
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: who have made a lot of money, but they still

597
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: don't have that fulfillment inside or remember their relationships are

598
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: off or their health is off. But there are others

599
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: who have made a lot of money and they are

600
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: so fulfilled with so much joy because it's purposeful money.

601
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: It's money made with a mission in mind. And I

602
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: think that's what we need to be thinking about on

603
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: our journeys, is the money we're making. And I think

604
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: money is great to have. It helps solve a lot

605
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: of problems in our lives. But it doesn't solve the

606
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: problem of fulfillment. Yes, and it doesn't solve the problem

607
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: of inner peace. It might solve some peace, it might

608
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: be able to help pay for challenges to overcome, but

609
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't bring us ultimate inner peace by itself. Correct

610
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: unless we figure out purpose and mission as well. Yes,

611
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: money gives financial security, yes, and financial stability and financial safety,

612
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: which are all very important things. But financial stability does

613
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: not equate to mental peace. Right. Like, we know people

614
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: financial security, but they are not mentally peaceful. They're emotionally unstable, correct,

615
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: because those two things don't correlate. Same with emotional stability

616
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: does not lead to financial security. Right. I know people

617
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: who are really emotionally together, but they may not have

618
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: figured out how to organize their business with their life

619
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: to facilitate that which I was in that bucket for

620
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: a long time in my life, and so we've got

621
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: to start seeing them. It's just two different pursuits. If

622
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: I buy a ticket to LA I'm not going to

623
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: get to New York. And if I buy a New

624
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: York I'm not going to get there. You've got to

625
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: pay for that ticket that you want, and they're two

626
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: different things. An emotional regulation and emotional peace and making

627
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: money are two different skill sets, yes, and you have

628
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: to you have to study and practice the art of

629
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: emotional regulation, of emotional peace, of inner peace. It has

630
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: taken me decades to get to a place where I

631
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: feel inside right. And I know you you went off

632
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: to go on this journey when you were twenty one,

633
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty two or something because you didn't feel that early

634
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: on in your life, and you were inspired by the

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: monks that you met who came and taught and you're like,

636
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I want to go learn this and have this in

637
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: my life. So I think it's two separate journeys. It's learning.

638
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: And some people make money naturally and it comes easier

639
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: to them, and other people are just peaceful, joyful people naturally.

640
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: I would say, Roddy's like one of these just peaceful,

641
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: joyful people naturally just in her nature, where other people

642
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: struggle and have more depressed thoughts and they're more stressed out.

643
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: And so it's a each r a practice, and they

644
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: can both be very challenging, but so worthwhile pursuing because

645
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: when you master both, it gives you even more peace. Yeah. Yeah,

646
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean I have friends that make you know, I

647
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: have friends that work their job, make their money, and

648
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: then spend all their evenings and weekends with their family,

649
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: and they're really happy because they know what their purpose is.

650
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: And then I have friends that have all the money

651
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: in the world that are unhappy. But then I all

652
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: said the opposite, where I have friends who are doing

653
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: their ninety five job and spending time every day and

654
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: they have time, but they're not happy for stress. Yeah,

655
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: and then I have friends that are leaving their purpose

656
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: making out somebody that are happy. And so we need

657
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: to stop equating money and happiness in the same conversation,

658
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: or money and success. They just provide different things. And

659
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: like you beautifully said, they are different skills and we

660
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: have to decide. Each one has to decide what type

661
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: of life we want to lead. And I think both

662
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: are I don't know, you'd tell me both are equally

663
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: as important to learn at the same time, because if

664
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: you're putting your energy on making money, but then you

665
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: can't sleep at night because you're emotionally stressed and you

666
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: have no peace. But you figure out the money thing,

667
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: your health is going to go to crap and your

668
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: relationships are going to go to crap. If you're just

669
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: zend out all day and you don't spend time on

670
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: figuring out the money side, then you're broke, you know,

671
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: and there becomes some stress around not having things to

672
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: buy and pay for and going month a month that

673
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: has an element of stress. So they're both so important

674
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: to be working on together, I think correct. I'm a

675
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: big believer that emotional regulation is the key in general

676
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: because it just makes you less reactive in all life situations.

677
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: But finding a way to make money within a meaningful

678
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: pursuit is so fulfilling as well. Yeah, it doesn't feel

679
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: like work when you're doing something meaningful and making your

680
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: money around it. Yeah, And if you can't do that yet,

681
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest issues too, is

682
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: that doing a job just because it pays the bills

683
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: and takes care of what you need and then having

684
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: time to figure out your passions and what else you

685
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: want to do, that's a beautiful place to start. That's

686
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: where I started. I think that's probably where you start too.

687
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: It's like you start with just a base. And I

688
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: think too many people hate on their current life because

689
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: they want this passion life. But hating on your current

690
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: life is just training yourself to hate on your future life.

691
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: And I think we don't recognize that you'll never be

692
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: happy where you're at. Yeah, and I'm not saying you

693
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna love like I would say. I've done so

694
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: many jobs in my life that I honestly did not love,

695
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: but I choose. And I did everything from stacking shelves

696
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: at grocery stores to working in retail to delivering newspapers.

697
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I calculated the other day, I've been working now for

698
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: twenty years because I started working when I was fourteen

699
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: thirty four now, so we're working for twenty years and

700
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: I've done I would say that up until six years ago,

701
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: most of the jobs I did I didn't want to do.

702
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: But all of them I learned to take a skill

703
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: that I used today. And so now when I look back,

704
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, being a delivery boy told me

705
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: discipline because I had to do all the streets in

706
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: my area without any reciprocation, in the rain and lugging

707
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: around this like, you know, delivering news thing, which it

708
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: didn't make me cool. I missed out and hanging out

709
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: with friends. What everybody taught me discipline, And I think

710
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, I had a lot of those jobs

711
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: as well, where I was a bouncer on the weekends

712
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: at a nightclub the weekest, so I was a truck

713
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: driver during the day for I only did this for

714
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: three and a half months and I was like, I

715
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. Truck driver for six hours a day.

716
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: I would drive a massive U haul, kind of the

717
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: biggest truck before you had to get a special license

718
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: for a truck, so I think, imagine that the biggest

719
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: U haul. And I was driving for NAPA Auto Parts,

720
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: which is like a car manufacturer. And I would drive

721
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: two and a half hours from Columbus to Cincinnati, Ohio,

722
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: and two and a half hours back every day and

723
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: transfer these autoparts from one truck to another and bring

724
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: others back up to Columbus. And the truck only went

725
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: fifty five miles an hour all the way the pedals

726
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: of metal, and so I was just in the slow lane.

727
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: This was before like really cell phones and all these

728
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: different things. And I would do that during the day,

729
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: and I would do the bouncing on the weekend to

730
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: make some money. And I remember thinking like this is

731
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: not for me, this is not what I was born

732
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, but I think in those situations, just

733
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: like you had in your situations, it's figuring out how

734
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: to be purpose in the thing you're doing, be joy,

735
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: be fun in those moments while you're thinking of like

736
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: the next thing to get out of or how to

737
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: get out of that into the next thing what you

738
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: want to be doing. And you know, have you ever

739
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: been to a restaurant where you have a waiter a

740
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: waitress that's just like full of light, full of joy.

741
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: They're so grateful, they bring a smile to your face,

742
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: They remember the order perfectly, They just like want to

743
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: make the experience incredible. Yeah, you always tell these stories

744
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: about getting them getting hired and then going on to

745
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: some other career because they brought the joy, They brought

746
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: purpose to their career, to their job which maybe they

747
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't really want to be at ye, but that's how

748
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: you get to the next place. It's by bringing that

749
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: energy to the thing you don't enjoy and being purposeful. Anyways,

750
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: I think if we could start doing that, you're gonna

751
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: be a magnet for opportunities to finding your purpose. I

752
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: love that there was we were just in Rwanda and

753
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: there was a I don't drink alcohol, but I was

754
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: with a group of people who were and so there

755
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: was a somalier who was explaining the wine expert was

756
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: like telling everyone what's in the wine and all that

757
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and the person I was weird and

758
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: encouraged him to he was he was from Africa. And

759
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: the person who was leading the retreat asked the person

760
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: to explain their journey to how they became a somalier

761
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: at this beautiful hotel that we were at, and he

762
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: sat down and he told us his story and it's

763
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: exactly what you said. Yeah, literally cool. So he was

764
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: saying that he worked at a restaurant. He was waiting

765
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and then he was asked one night to like choose

766
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: a bottle of wine for a table, and so he

767
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: chose a bottle of wine for that table, gave advice,

768
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: and he was really good at it because he'd been

769
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: doing his YouTube research and learning on the side. And

770
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: he said that when he gave it to this person

771
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: at the table, they asked him why this wine, why

772
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: not the other one, Like they were really quizzing him,

773
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: and because he'd done his research, he knew what to say.

774
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: He said that at the end of the meal, that

775
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: person who was sitting at the table, gave him a

776
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: car so cool, and when he looked into the next day,

777
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: that was the owner of the brand of wine that

778
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: he gave. No way, that is cool and that person deceptive.

779
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: If you want to train to be somewhile, then you know,

780
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: we'll put you into training school. Everything that's cool and

781
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: it's amazing, Like you know, he was so beaming when

782
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: he's telling the story. He's so happy doing it. And

783
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: for him it was a big change because he was

784
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: saying that the family he grew up in would have

785
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: not been happy with him working in alcohol, but it

786
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: was his passion. It was what drew him there. Right,

787
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: It's just those kind of stories that melt my heart.

788
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: But if he showed up stress that he was going

789
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: to a job that he didn't like and sank, I

790
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: really don't want to be here. I'm not doing the

791
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: thing I want to do exactly, and let me just

792
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: get through the night, let me do the bare minimum,

793
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: let me show up and just get my check and

794
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: go back. If we go through life in those moments

795
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: where we don't want to be doing something, nothing good

796
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: is going to happen for us. We're not going to

797
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: create an energy that attracts financial abundance. And that's not

798
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: a spiritual practice. Showing up being kind of half lazy,

799
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: half disinterested in just going through the motions, that's not

800
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: a spiritual practice either. A spiritual practice from my perspective,

801
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: is being present in a moment and giving your fullest joy,

802
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: giving your light, giving your heart to the moment. Yes,

803
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: that's a spiritual practice. I'm not saying you're gonna be

804
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: able to have the energy to do that every moment

805
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: of every day, but it's doing your best to get

806
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: back to the moment and say, how can I be

807
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: of service to this moment? How can I use my light?

808
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: How can I use my gift whatever that is in

809
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: this moment to serve absolutely? What would you say is yeah,

810
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: what would you say as a spiritual practice for you

811
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: kind of day to day? Yeah? I think. I think

812
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: the spiritual practice is how can I truly treat everyone

813
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: I meet as an equal, as a human? How do

814
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: I see them through equal vision? How do I not

815
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: talk down to someone or talk up to someone? How

816
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: do I truly allow each person to space to express

817
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: themselves and express myself to connect with them? And if

818
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to a place of work. If I'm going

819
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: to a place of wherever I am, how can I

820
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: show up believing that my positive energy and what I

821
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: put out in the world will some way come back

822
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, it's hard to believe that, but it will.

823
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I've seen sometimes, you know, it's like an investment, Like

824
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you're mak an investment and you don't see the

825
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: benefits till twenty years later, but you're so grateful for

826
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: it twenty years later because it almost surprises you. And

827
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: that's how the world works. Like there's very few things

828
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: that are instant in life. I mean, I would say

829
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: that you probably feel you're living off of habits and

830
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: disciplines you built totally. It's not like it's not like

831
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: what you're winning in now is what you just did yesterday.

832
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Like it's stuff that you like when you you know,

833
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: we're playing sport and developing as an athlete, like all

834
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: of those skill sets are useful today. Absolutely, even though

835
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: you're not doing the same thing. Absolutely. Yeah, it's similar

836
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: to my athletic background, which you were an athlete as well,

837
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: but you're more trained. You were the athletes of the mind, right,

838
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: you were the spiritual athlete. You're getting up at four am,

839
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: sleeping on the ground, you know, just being of service

840
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: all day, learning, teaching, meditating, being with your monk community.

841
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: And you had to go through adversity on a daily basis. Essentially,

842
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: you had to do uncomfortable things and be positive about it.

843
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: In football, when you're doing three of days, it is

844
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: not fun and one hundred five degree humidity and heat,

845
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: showing up, putting pads on and getting smashed over and

846
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: over again for two hours at a time, three times

847
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: a day, it's not fun. Yeah, But the coaches ingraining

848
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you added and how you show up for others and

849
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: your team and the team and if you are missing

850
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the play, you're letting the whole team down. And it's

851
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: how each individual shows up with a positive attitude makes

852
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: the entire mission of the team move forward in progress. Yeah.

853
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: But if you're stressed and overwhelmed and allowing the adversity

854
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: of the moment to hold you back, then the team's

855
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: going to be held back. Yeah. I think you did

856
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: that in the monk community by constantly being a service,

857
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: even if you're only getting two hours asleep and in

858
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: the heat all day serving, you know, just asking for

859
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: food and the same thing in life and you're using

860
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: that discipline now from ten fifteen years ago. Well, I

861
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: think what I see in you is that I didn't

862
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: know you when you were an athlete back then, but

863
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: I feel like the thing I know it's about you

864
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: is that you're always bringing the most amount of value

865
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: to everything you do. That's the goal. And whether I

866
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: was when I spoke to your master mind a few

867
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: years ago, I saw how much value you grow your community,

868
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: and I saw how my success all of them have

869
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: had and the journeys and careers they've had. And I

870
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about this, and I think it'll be

871
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: useful for us to answer this together. I think one

872
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest issues that people have. So let's say

873
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: first they recognize, as we both clarified that we realize

874
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: that money is an energy, that it's a resource. Money

875
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: is not good or bad. It's defined by how you

876
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: use it, and if your goal is to use money

877
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: for a higher purpose and for a mission, it can

878
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: be a beautiful thing. You've established that. I think one

879
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest things that people struggle with, and this

880
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: is what I wanted us to talk about, is people

881
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: struggle with the idea of how do I charge for

882
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: what I'm worth. Where I feel uncomfortable to charge for

883
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: my services. I know coaches feel this way, I know

884
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: therapists feel this way. I know people are in the

885
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: service business feel difficult to feel like they're allowed to

886
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: feel comfortable to charge for their service. Is because it's

887
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: assumed that if you're doing good for the world, you

888
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: should be doing it for free. And so let's address

889
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: that mindset. Because I think a lot of people might

890
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: be watching right now going listen jam with you, but

891
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: I just feel really unconfident about saying this is how

892
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: much my services are worthy. And so I'll go first

893
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: because I bought it up. Yes, but I think it's

894
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the idea of Like the first thing I say to

895
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: people is we know this that when people are paid

896
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: for something, including when I pay for something, I take

897
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: it more seriously. I'm more likely to show up and

898
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: be my best, and I'm more likely to complete. A

899
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: great example of us is a personal trainer. Absolutely. The

900
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: reason I have that is because I know I've already

901
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: paid for his time. I already know I've paid for

902
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: an hour, and if I cancel, I'm going to lose

903
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: that money. And if I show up and I'm not

904
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: full energy, then I'm not going to get that much

905
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: out of it. Right. If I haven't paid someone, I

906
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: may or may not go to the gym. If I

907
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: feel like it or not, I probably won't turn up.

908
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: If I turn up to them, I might just be

909
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: on my phone the whole time. By the way, if

910
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: you're going to gym, you probably paid membership too. So

911
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: the idea of the transaction of money forces a higher

912
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: commitment and energy from me included, yes, and from everyone absolutely,

913
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: and so of course it's all based on affordability and

914
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: privilege and access. Of course, like I'm not telling to

915
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: be able to pay more than they have, but the

916
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: idea that when we exchange money for something, we value

917
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: it more. And I think our friend Dean Graciosi says,

918
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: you pay attention to what you pay for, and the

919
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: more you pay for it, you pay more attention to

920
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: the thing that you've invested in or signed up on.

921
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: If you buy a house and you spend a lot

922
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: of money on that house, you're probably going to make

923
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: sure the house is in good order and you're going

924
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: to fix it up and you're going to treat it well.

925
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: You buy a new car, same thing. You're gonna not

926
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: trash it, at least not right away hopefully. But if

927
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: you buy a car for a few hundred bucks, you

928
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: may say, if it hits a wall or if this

929
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: is scratched, like, who cares because I didn't invest that

930
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: much in it. So we pay attention to what we

931
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: pay for are And I think you're doing a disservice

932
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: to yourself and you're creating a model to everyone around

933
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: you that you're not worth receiving of money if you're

934
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: not willing to charge or eventually charge more when you

935
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: can deliver more value for that. And I think it's

936
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: important to we'll probably talk about this more and another

937
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: session about you know, a law of attraction and the

938
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: hustle and grind and then things around that. But I

939
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: think when I think we should be constantly striving to

940
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: develop more skills, add more value, and then in that

941
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: process be willing to charge more. Yeah, otherwise we're staying stagnant.

942
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: And I think you just hit a nail on the head.

943
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: It's that you're charging for your skills that you've developed,

944
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: and you're not charging for the time. You're charging for

945
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: the time it to build those skills and the value

946
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: can deliver with the speed of a delivery hole. Correct, correct,

947
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people feel like, oh,

948
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: I can't charge that much for an hour, or I

949
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: can't charge that much for X, Y or Z. But

950
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: it's like you're not charging for that hour. You're charging

951
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: for all the hours that it took to build that exactly.

952
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: And I think a good example for my personal life

953
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: is I'm paying for a therapist slash coach right now.

954
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: That's I pay a kind of a lump sum for

955
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: six months for a certain amount of sessions. But if

956
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: I was to average the sessions out and call it

957
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: per session rate, it's around seven hundred bucks a session,

958
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: right for an hour and a half, which is probably

959
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: the highest amount of any therapist out there. Ye should

960
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: therapist maybe one hundred and fifty, maybe two hundred and

961
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: fifty on the high end, some of the celebrity therapists

962
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: or five hundred dollars a session. So I'm paying above that,

963
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: and I'm paying it because I'm getting incredible results from

964
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: my inner piece, and it's worth it. It's worth it.

965
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: You was investing in your future, investing in my future forever,

966
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: and the skills that I'm developing that will allow me

967
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: to have greater peace in my intimacy, in my relationships,

968
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: greater my friendships, greater harmony in my business, and allow

969
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: me to soar financially and with my mission. So it's like,

970
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: it's all around a good investment, correct, even if it's

971
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: a three times more than the average, right for me,

972
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: it's worth it. Yeah, yeah, And other people that may

973
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: not make sense based on where they're at, and I

974
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: get it, But there is an investment that will make

975
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: sense for you. And maybe it's not a hiring a

976
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: therapist or a coach, but it's going through a workshop

977
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: online that you pay something for, buying a book, buying

978
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: a blood something else, listening to our podcast either one

979
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: of those. It's like, yeah, exactly. But you're investing time. Yeah,

980
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: you're time. You're investing time to learn something and then

981
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: investing in applying it and testing it. And I think

982
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: that's just as that's valuable as well, and I want

983
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: to address that. It is by the way I feel

984
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: awkward talking about money. We will feel awkward to talk

985
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: about money because we were told that it's a taboo

986
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: in society. Yeah, you never ask someone their wage, You

987
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: never asked them how much money they make. You don't

988
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: tell someone what your bonus was this year. So we've

989
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: created a taboo in society to talk about money, and

990
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: that's why most of us feel really uncomfortable, where we'd

991
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: rather not have that conversation. But the problem is then

992
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: we spend all of our mind thinking about money, because

993
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: then we're like, well, they didn't pay me enough, or

994
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: they don't value me, or I should have got a

995
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: bigger bonus, or I should have got a better promotion,

996
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: or my salary should be this. And so by you

997
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: pretending or not even pretending, by you feeling uncomfortable to

998
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: address money, you actually end up spending more time obsessed

999
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: with the lack of it. Yes, And I think that's

1000
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: the pain, that you're actually obsessing over the lack of

1001
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: money because you're scared of talking about it. And I

1002
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: know I've been there, Like I know what that feels like.

1003
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: And I think some things that people can think about

1004
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: as they leave this conversation is I'm so glad you

1005
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: said this, because I was probably going to forget this.

1006
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: A mentor of mine early on when I was broke, said,

1007
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: it comes to you when you're ready for it, and

1008
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel pretty ready to have some

1009
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: money because I don't have any. I feel ready and

1010
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: he's like, it'll come to you when you're ready for it.

1011
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't understand it. When you're lacking, it doesn't

1012
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: make sense. But it understood it as money started to

1013
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: come to me because I was like, I wasn't ready

1014
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: to manage the responsibility, the weight. I didn't have the

1015
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: knowledge on how to receive money, how to manage it,

1016
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: how to pay off credit cards and debts, how to

1017
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: automate things like I would have blown it because I

1018
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: didn't understand it enough. So what you said right there

1019
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: is so important that we need to have conscious conversations

1020
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: about money and be willing to be uncomfortable with your

1021
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: friends or family members that maybe you've never talked about

1022
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: money and start talking about it. I love normalizing the

1023
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: conversation so it's not scary, so it's not bad. So

1024
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: it's not this I don't know, I don't want to

1025
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: talk about it, it's scary. If you know these things.

1026
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: Letting go with the shame around money conversations and do

1027
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: it appropriate setting with the right people, but be willing

1028
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: to have these conversations. You won't feel the pressure of

1029
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: it as much, and when it comes, it's not going

1030
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: to feel like you have to hold on to it

1031
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: as much, and you'll just be able to naturally flow

1032
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: in the world more with open conversations. So I think

1033
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: what you said there is so important we need to do. Yeah,

1034
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: And I think that the reason we feel uncomfortable is

1035
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: because we've never been trained, And the reason why we

1036
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: decided to do this is because we're trying to have

1037
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: the uncomfortable conversation so that hopefully all of you feel encouraged.

1038
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: I've always found our friend David Buck. Yes, he has

1039
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: some really great stuff on Like I remember reading his

1040
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: stuff years before I met it about how much money

1041
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: to spend on rent and how much money does it

1042
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: save and how to do this like when you first

1043
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: have like an income from a job. And I found

1044
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: that so useful because no one in my life has

1045
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: ever talked to no one talked about it. So if

1046
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: you're scared of talking about money, if you're scared of

1047
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: figuring out how to charge, and by the way, if

1048
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: you're someone who in your heart goes jee, I feel

1049
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: like I'm somewhat taking advantage of someone when I ask

1050
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: them for money, bring more value, bring more value, over deliver,

1051
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: give your heart, and then you won't feel that way

1052
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: because you realize you're having a genuine impact on them.

1053
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I realize when we launched some of our courses and programs,

1054
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: we studied how they improve people's lives, and we saw

1055
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: that someone in our community has been part of Genius

1056
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: for ninety days, their happiness goes up by and we

1057
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: were like, that's incredible, Like that's beautiful, right, And so

1058
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: when you start to measure impact, Yes, measure your impact.

1059
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: Don't just create something and hope that it works. Measure

1060
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: your impact. You'll feel more confident. Really take the time

1061
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: to create an offering that genuinely improves people's lives. You'll

1062
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: be more confident, and then ultimately keep checking in with

1063
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: yourself absolutely to check am I truly delivering or not? Yeah.

1064
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: One of the things we do every Monday today is

1065
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Monday our team Calls, is we talk about what are

1066
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: some of the impact we're aching on all the different

1067
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: programs and products and from the courses to the podcast,

1068
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: like what the testimonials of the week. We have a

1069
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: big spreadsheet with all the testimonals that come in different

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Speaker 1: have ownership over here the biggest testimonials of the week,

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Speaker 1: and it constantly reminds us why we're doing what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: So don't neglect hearing testimonials, hearing the impact you've made

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Speaker 1: on your friends' lives, or if you have a freelance,

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Speaker 1: gig or a career, how you're being of service with

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Speaker 1: your talent and your skills. You are living you know,

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Speaker 1: when you live in purpose, that is the fuel to

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Speaker 1: keep going. You love it. I love it when people

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Speaker 1: come up to us on the street and say, I'm

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Speaker 1: listening right now this. I read your book. It helped

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Speaker 1: me here two years ago. I found you and I

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Speaker 1: got it into this incredible relationship. I got out of

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Speaker 1: this challenging relationship or gott in shape because of you

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Speaker 1: or what you shared. It's fuel for our purpose to

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Speaker 1: have more energy and go you know, bigger at it.

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Speaker 1: So be willing to receive that as well and start

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Speaker 1: having these conversations. What else shall we leave people with

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Speaker 1: as we wrap up episode one? I think my big

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Speaker 1: takeaway from today's conversation is we all have to evaluate

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Speaker 1: our relationship with money. Do you have a positive relationship

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Speaker 1: do you have a negative relationship, Do you have a

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Speaker 1: neutral or void relationship? Most of us don't realize that

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Speaker 1: we all have a relationship with money. If you don't

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Speaker 1: talk about money, that's like not talking to someone, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. If you don't talk about money,

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Speaker 1: then your relationship is you don't communicate with that person.

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Speaker 1: Then you can have negative communication, you have negative thoughts

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Speaker 1: about that person, you have negative feelings towards that person,

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Speaker 1: or you have positive feelings and healthy feelings. Figure out

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Speaker 1: your relationship. And the quote or the wisdom that changed

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Speaker 1: my relationship with money was this beautiful thought by Martin

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Speaker 1: believe you are. That the people who love peace need

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Speaker 1: to learn to organize themselves as well as those who

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Speaker 1: love war. Absolutely, And what I realized was that the

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Speaker 1: it was not organized enough. An organization requires finances, businesses, structure, operations, implementation,

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Speaker 1: and so to me that was something that really made

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Speaker 1: positively improve the world, I have to think about money.

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Speaker 1: It's not my goal, it's not my obsession, it's not

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Speaker 1: ignore it, it's going to negatively impact of There's another

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Speaker 1: like viral or quote online that says it's better to

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Speaker 1: be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in

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Speaker 1: a war, and I think it's we need to train

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Speaker 1: the key so that you're not stressed when life comes

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Speaker 1: at some point, whether it be metaphorical or spiritual war,

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Speaker 1: of those will be so key. So if you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation, let us know in the comments below

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Speaker 1: and tell us what topic you want us to go

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Speaker 1: over next in this series with me and Jay. Also

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Speaker 1: make sure you check out Jay's show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: on Purpose with Jay Htty may Sho check it out

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Speaker 1: subscribe their subscribe over on Jay's YouTube channel as well.

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Speaker 1: Below we'll have all this stuff linked up. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be doing a series of this back and forth, so

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Speaker 1: the next episode will be on Jay's show and then

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Speaker 1: we'll come back here on the School of Greatness. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to Jay so you can get

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Speaker 1: all the content we do together in this series where

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Speaker 1: we're covering uncomfortable you need taboo topics around life. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to that episode. If you

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Speaker 1: want more of those, tag us on Instagram let us

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Speaker 1: know what you learned, what you took away. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to do more conversations like this, and thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to On Purpose.